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The Kenny Report | 9 October · The Kenny Report

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  Speaker 1: Lone from the skying New Center. This is the Kenny Report.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks for joining me.
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  Speaker 3: After two years of war, a Gaza peace deal has
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  Speaker 3: been agreed. If all goes well, the last hostages will
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  Speaker 3: be returned by Monday and Humas will lay down its arms.
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  Speaker 3: US President Donald Trump is on the cusp of pulling
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  Speaker 3: off the most significant peace deal in the Middle East
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  Speaker 3: for decades. He shared the news with the world early
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  Speaker 3: today our time. I'll have all the reaction from around
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  Speaker 3: the world and at home, and we will cross to Israel. Meanwhile,
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  Speaker 3: the pro Palestinian protesters in Australia have been blocked from
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  Speaker 3: re enacting their opera house protest. Why don't they celebrate
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  Speaker 3: peace instead? I'll talk to October the seventh survivor, Danny
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  Speaker 3: Meisner and find out how he went meeting with our
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  Speaker 3: Prime minister. All that, plus Tim Blair and Mark Nicholson,
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  Speaker 3: let's get into it. We've become used to horrendous images
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  Speaker 3: coming out of the Middle East in recent times, but
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  Speaker 3: today something very different, but oh so welcome. Today we
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  Speaker 3: saw not bloodshed and trauma, and not the celebration of
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  Speaker 3: bloodshed and trauma. Instead, in Gaza, we saw celebrations of peace.
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  Speaker 2: And today and we hope for much longer.
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  Speaker 3: The people of Israel were able to celebrate the same news,
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  Speaker 3: an optimistic and unusual synchronization of emotions in Israel and
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  Speaker 3: in the Palestinian territories.
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  Speaker 4: Omicide, omicid, I'm beside.
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  Speaker 5: Big money.
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  Speaker 3: Why why after two years of this brutal Gaza war
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  Speaker 3: deliberately started by the unspeakable atrocities of Hummas. On October
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  Speaker 3: the seventh, twenty twenty three, the key moment for peace
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  Speaker 3: came down to this note to US President Donald Trump
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  Speaker 3: and this revelation.
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  Speaker 6: To find the criminal conspiracy.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I was just given a note by the Secretary
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  Speaker 5: of State saying that we're very close to a deal
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  Speaker 5: in the Middle East and they're going to need me
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  Speaker 5: pretty quickly.
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  Speaker 3: Negotiators in Egypt embraced each other in joy after essentially
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  Speaker 3: agreeing to the peace plan broken by Trump uniting the
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  Speaker 3: Arab world to put pressure on Hummas.
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  Speaker 2: Let there be no doubt about what's happened here. The
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  Speaker 2: Israeli military assault on Hummas has worked.
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  Speaker 3: The terror group's leadership has been wiped out, along with
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  Speaker 3: most of its terrorist minions, and they've now surrendered to
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  Speaker 3: the US and Israeli ultimatum to lay down their arms
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  Speaker 3: and accept safe passage rather than face the final deadly onslaught.
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  Speaker 3: Hummus is finished and if all goes well, the twenty
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  Speaker 3: remaining living hostages and twenty eight bodies of hostages.
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  Speaker 2: Will all be back in Israel by Monday.
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  Speaker 3: Some hostage families were in the US lobbying politicians when
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  Speaker 3: they were given the news and got to pass on
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  Speaker 3: their thanks to the president.
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  Speaker 1: President Trump. You have the best crowd of the world.
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  Speaker 1: Us have to say to President Trump, then, thank you.
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  Speaker 7: You did it. You, thank you. This is amazing, mister President.
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  Speaker 2: We believe in you.
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  Speaker 7: We know you've done so much for us over the
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  Speaker 7: past since you became a president and even before that,
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  Speaker 7: and we trust you fulfilled the mission until every hostage,
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  Speaker 7: every forty eight of the hostages are home.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you so much.
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  Speaker 7: Bless it be the peacemaker God. Bless you, mister President.
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  Speaker 2: God Erica very much.
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  Speaker 5: You just say here yourself. The hostages will come back there,
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  Speaker 5: coming or coming back on Monday.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you. When the hostages are handed over.
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  Speaker 3: Israeli troops will withdraw from a defined area within God
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  Speaker 3: and in subsequent stages, if disarmament proceeds as planned, the
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  Speaker 3: IDF will pull right back to the Gaza borders, and
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  Speaker 3: plans for a civilian authority to run Gaza will be
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  Speaker 3: put in place, relieving the population there from almost two
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  Speaker 3: decades of rule by the brutal Islamist extremists of Hummas.
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  Speaker 3: We have every right and every duty really to be
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  Speaker 3: very wary about what lies ahead. But there is the
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  Speaker 3: prospect of a broader new dawn in the Middle East,
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  Speaker 3: because of the plan to rebuild Gaza, because of the
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  Speaker 3: removal of Hummas, because of the way Hesbalah and Iran
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  Speaker 3: have been neuted, and because of the way Trump has
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  Speaker 3: won over the Arab countries, an extension really of his
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  Speaker 3: brilliant Abraham Accords.
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  Speaker 2: In his first presidency.
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  Speaker 8: Well, Iran was about one month, maybe two months away
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  Speaker 8: from having a nuclear weapon, and if I allowed that
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  Speaker 8: to happen, this deal would not have been possible, or
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  Speaker 8: if it was, it would have a tremendous cloud over it,
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  Speaker 8: because you have a country with a nuclear weapon that
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  Speaker 8: was not obviously very friendly.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, the Arab world, mark my words, will be greatly
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  Speaker 3: relieved that Iran has now been curtailed, and in the
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  Speaker 3: main they'll be keen to see the back of Humas,
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  Speaker 3: to make sure that it's permanent, if possible. The optimism,
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  Speaker 3: of course, extended to our shores.
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  Speaker 4: Today is the start of the end of this war
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  Speaker 4: and the beginning of enduring peace. This is not a
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  Speaker 4: time to protest. This is not a time for division,
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  Speaker 4: This is not a time for hate. This is a
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  Speaker 4: time to support the real prospect of peace after two
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  Speaker 4: years of war. This is a time to stand with
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  Speaker 4: our allies.
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  Speaker 3: But for the Prime Minister, it's another foreign policy in embarrassment.
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  Speaker 3: He's demonized and abandoned Israel over the past two years,
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  Speaker 3: and he's called for cease fires repeatedly at times. That
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  Speaker 3: would have left the Hummas leadership in place and a
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  Speaker 3: very powerful Hummas still in control of all of Gaza,
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  Speaker 3: and it would have left Iran on track to produce
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  Speaker 3: nuclear weapons and left a Hesbalah army and armory poised
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  Speaker 3: on Israel's northern border. Thank goodness, no one listened to
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  Speaker 3: Alberanizi and the other Israel critics. But Albanzi also broke
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  Speaker 3: with the US on Israel policy, and he broke with
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  Speaker 3: the US over recognition of a non existent Palestinian state,
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  Speaker 3: and that same president and approach that Alberanzi criticized and
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  Speaker 3: abandoned on Middle East strategy, while they have delivered a
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  Speaker 3: victory for Israel and.
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  Speaker 9: Peace Throughout this devastating conflict, Australia has spen consistently been
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  Speaker 9: part of the international calls for a ceasefire, for the
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  Speaker 9: return of hostages, and for the flow of humanitarian aid
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  Speaker 9: to Gaza. We've always acknowledged that the leadership of the
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  Speaker 9: United States of America, together with the Arab League, is
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  Speaker 9: vital to achieving these goals.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's been irrelevant Albanezi, like Kirstamer in the UK
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  Speaker 3: and Emmanuel Macron in France and others, well, they've been
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  Speaker 3: left exposed now as noisy and unhelpful pacifists and critics
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  Speaker 3: of Israel. Others have done the hard yards of defeating
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  Speaker 3: extremism and finding a worthwhile path to peace back in Australia,
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  Speaker 3: the real anarchy of the so called pro Palestinian protesters
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  Speaker 3: has been exposed. They pretend to be in favor of peace,
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  Speaker 3: but have never campaigned for it. They've never tried to
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  Speaker 3: pressure Hummus for peace or campaigned for the release of hostages. No,
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  Speaker 3: all they've done is demonizes Israel. Today in court, they've
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  Speaker 3: had their opera house protest rejected on public safety grounds.
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  Speaker 3: But the more important question is why with a peace
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  Speaker 3: plan now being inactive, being put in place as we speak,
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  Speaker 3: why would they protest?
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  Speaker 2: What are they going to protest about on Sunday? Now?
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  Speaker 2: Will they celebrate peace?
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  Speaker 3: That's what they should be doing. But no, they'll stick
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  Speaker 3: to their real agenda. They'll continue to demonize Israel, just
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  Speaker 3: like Hummas. Really they're not about Palestinians or peace, They're
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  Speaker 3: just about hating Israel. As you know, on this program,
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  Speaker 3: I've been very clear to you about Hummas and other
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  Speaker 3: Islamist extremist organizations, what motivates them and how they operate. Now,
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  Speaker 3: this is crucial to understand because of the threat they
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  Speaker 3: pose to us, and in the case of Hummus, the
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  Speaker 3: atrocities they committed against Israel and the war they deliberately
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  Speaker 3: started and then extended for two years. And while Hummas
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  Speaker 3: are the past masters at murder, rape and torture, the
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  Speaker 3: past masters in terrorizing people with sickening crimes and using
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  Speaker 3: their own people as human shields, they're also masters of
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  Speaker 3: propaganda and they've used every bit of trauma and every
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  Speaker 3: drop of blood over many years to feed lies to
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  Speaker 3: the Western media about Israel and its tactics and its soldiers.
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  Speaker 3: They've been so successful that they have people that've had
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  Speaker 3: people marching in the streets of Western nations repeatedly demonizing Israel,
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  Speaker 3: with some repeating Hummas slogans like River to the Sea
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  Speaker 3: calling for the elimination of Israel, shouting about a genocide
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  Speaker 3: that never happened, a starvation policy that never happened, and
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  Speaker 3: war crimes that never happened.
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  Speaker 2: They've done this with the.
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  Speaker 3: Complicit support of the usual United Nations agencies and other NGOs,
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  Speaker 3: and they've done it while they've been killing Israeli civilians,
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  Speaker 3: firing rockets at Israeli civilians, and holding Israeli civilians as hostages,
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  Speaker 3: a blatant and daily war crime. Yet Western media have
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  Speaker 3: routinely reported their claims and their statistics as fact, and
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  Speaker 3: they've failed to be honest with audiences about how Hummus
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  Speaker 3: terrorizes its own people, the people of Gaza, and nor
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  Speaker 3: have they been honest about how the only media coverage
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  Speaker 3: that gets out of Gaza is coverage that this Islamist
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  Speaker 3: terrorist organization approves, which is why it was important to
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  Speaker 3: share with you last month, some blood curdling footage of
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  Speaker 3: how Hummus operates.
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  Speaker 2: As well as some insight into.
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  Speaker 3: Our own taxpayer funded media censors the news that it
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  Speaker 3: shares with Australians and are warning these images are distressing
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  Speaker 3: and here they are executing at least three people accused
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  Speaker 3: of collaborating with Israel. We won't show you what happens next,
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  Speaker 3: but believe me, the video does show the executions. This
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  Speaker 3: is the reality of Hummas run Gaza, exposed on the
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  Speaker 3: very day that our government recognized the non existent state
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  Speaker 3: of Palestine, which is half run by Hummas.
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  Speaker 2: At the moment, while.
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  Speaker 3: The ABC gave blanket coverage of Albanezi and Wong in
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  Speaker 3: New York, we have found no coverage of these real
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  Speaker 3: events in Gaza on the ABC website.
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  Speaker 2: Perhaps they'll enlighten us, but this is happening.
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  Speaker 3: Even though the BBC reported these executions and they verified
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  Speaker 3: that the video was shot in the.
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  Speaker 2: Middle of Gaza City, apparently.
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  Speaker 3: None of this was news at the ABC. I guess
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  Speaker 3: they were too busy telling Australians that Israel is the problem.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we still.
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  Speaker 3: Haven't been able to find any ABC coverage of that
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  Speaker 3: event and Senator just Into nabajimber Price took this up
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  Speaker 3: directly with the ABC boss in Centered Estimates yesterday on.
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  Speaker 10: Sky newser Kenna Report on Tuesday, the twenty third of September,
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  Speaker 10: Kenny noted that while the ABC gave blanket coverage of
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  Speaker 10: Albanesian wong in New York, we have found no coverage
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  Speaker 10: of these real events in Gaza on the ABC website. Now,
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  Speaker 10: I've also done a bit of research for ABC's coverage
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  Speaker 10: of this story, and I haven't found anything. I'm happy
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  Speaker 10: to stand corrected if that's not the case, but it
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  Speaker 10: appears as though these events weren't widely covered by the ABC,
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  Speaker 10: and I expose I'd like to understand why that's the case.
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  Speaker 3: Why indeed, I think we all know, but it was
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  Speaker 3: worth asking, well, kind of because the answer from the
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  Speaker 3: ABC boss was delusional.
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  Speaker 11: To every editorial decision that gets made in the context
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  Speaker 11: of that coverage. And mister Fang might have some additions
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  Speaker 11: on this, but I think we can be incredibly proud
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  Speaker 11: of our coverage and the quality and extensiveness of it.
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  Speaker 3: Proud it's been extensive, all right, but quality. The ABC's
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  Speaker 3: coverage of the Middle East over the past two years
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  Speaker 3: has been one of the worst episodes in its biased
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  Speaker 3: and one sided reporting, rivaling its coverage of climate change
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  Speaker 3: and the way it brought into hook line and sinker
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  Speaker 3: the Trump Russian collusion conspiracy theory on the Garza War.
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  Speaker 3: The ABC has been relentlessly anti Israel. It's demonized Israel,
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  Speaker 3: and it's run Hummaus propaganda without skepticism and without the ability.
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  Speaker 2: To fact check it.
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  Speaker 3: It's been shameful, ignoring facts, avoiding reality, and by vilifying Israel,
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  Speaker 3: fueling hatred. Marx has no idea why the ABC did
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  Speaker 3: not report those recent public executions by Hummas.
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  Speaker 11: The particular story you refer to in terms of mister Kenny,
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  Speaker 11: I'm not aware of that particular story. I'm not aware
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  Speaker 11: of the decision that was made to cover or not
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  Speaker 11: cover that particular issue. Obviously, I don't have any doubt
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  Speaker 11: that the ABC has covered the atrocities of Hummas and
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  Speaker 11: how they.
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  Speaker 2: Operate.
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  Speaker 11: I don't think our audience would be any doubts about that.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I think they would be.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think the ABC audiences would have any awareness
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  Speaker 3: of how HUMMAS operates. Although to be fair, I did
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  Speaker 3: manage to find one story in this mountain of coverage,
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  Speaker 3: one story that relays some of the brutal reality, but
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  Speaker 3: that of course pales into insignificance compared to the unproven,
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  Speaker 3: unlikely and untrue claims. The ABC has run on air
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  Speaker 3: and online again Israel day and night now for years,
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  Speaker 3: and this has consequences. The media's delinquency has consequences. As
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  Speaker 3: Senator Nabajiba Price pointed out.
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  Speaker 12: I just wanted to, I suppose make the point that
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  Speaker 12: we have covered extensively and previously the conduct of Hummas.
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  Speaker 10: Okay, well, can I get that on notice please, because
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  Speaker 10: I think given that now in terms of social cohesion
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  Speaker 10: in our own country, we're seeing a lot of support
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  Speaker 10: for Hamas. I mean we've seen just this week glory
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  Speaker 10: to Hamas and the main street in Melbourne, I would
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  Speaker 10: have thought that it would have been important to cover
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  Speaker 10: all aspects of the conduct of a terrorist organization that
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  Speaker 10: are being glorified now in our country, and missing this
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  Speaker 10: I think is a huge missed opportunity to do so
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  Speaker 10: so the Australian public can be truly informed as to
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  Speaker 10: the conduct of a terrorism organization that is gaining support
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  Speaker 10: in our country, heading and creating more division in our
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  Speaker 10: country than unity. I think it is a responsibility ABC
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  Speaker 10: to be able to do that effectively. So can I
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  Speaker 10: please get that on notice exactly why to understand why
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  Speaker 10: this specific story was not covered by the ABC.
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  Speaker 3: I can't wait to see what coverage the ABC comes
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  Speaker 3: up with and if this piece still really does hold
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  Speaker 3: as we all hope. Let's hope the ABC shares information
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  Speaker 3: from those hostages who escape with their lives and from
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  Speaker 3: the newly liberated people of Gaza about what's been going
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  Speaker 3: on in Gaza, because if they do, it'll prove to
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  Speaker 3: be a very different story to the one the ABC
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  Speaker 3: and so much of the media has shared over the
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  Speaker 3: past two years. Let's now go to Michelle Goldman, who's
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  Speaker 3: the CEO of the new Uth Whale's Jewish Board of Deputies.
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  Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us, sir, Michelle. I want to come
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  Speaker 3: to that court case about the protest in a moment,
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  Speaker 3: but first up, just your response to peace deal and
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  Speaker 3: the prospect of those hostages being freed in the next
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  Speaker 3: forty eight to seventy two hours.
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  Speaker 13: The news that greeted us when we came out of
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  Speaker 13: the court room was just amazing increase. It's something we've
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  Speaker 13: all been dreaming about for many, many months over the
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  Speaker 13: last two years, and we're just standing by with cautious
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  Speaker 13: hope that it will be.
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  Speaker 2: Delivered absolutely now.
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  Speaker 3: The reason you're in court, of course, was for this
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  Speaker 3: hearing for the anti Israel or the pro Palestinian protest,
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  Speaker 3: as you wanted to go to the Opera House and
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  Speaker 3: essentially re enact that horrible protest that occurred there two
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  Speaker 3: years ago.
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  Speaker 2: It was knocked back.
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  Speaker 3: The court has upheld the police ruling to block the
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  Speaker 3: protest on public safety grounds.
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  Speaker 2: What other grounds.
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  Speaker 3: Did you put forward in the court and what did
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  Speaker 3: the court find it about?
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  Speaker 2: Those were the.
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  Speaker 13: New South Wales Jewish Board of Deputies, together with the ECAJ,
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  Speaker 13: the national representative body, put forward an amicus brief alongside
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  Speaker 13: the police's argument to share the experience of the Jewish
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  Speaker 13: community over the past two years as a result of
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  Speaker 13: the relentless protests that we've seen occupying our streets and
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  Speaker 13: our cities, and that evidence was accepted by the court,
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  Speaker 13: which were really pleased. As you've already suggested, the main
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  Speaker 13: grounds for it being knocked backed is around public safety.
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  Speaker 13: There were significant public safety risks involved with this proposed protest,
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  Speaker 13: but from the Jewish community's perspective, We're just relieved. We
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  Speaker 13: didn't want to have to relive the despicable scenes of
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  Speaker 13: anti Semitism on the fore court of the Opera House
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  Speaker 13: from October ninth, twenty twenty three, and especially at the
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  Speaker 13: current time we're celebrating the celebrating, we're commemorating the two
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  Speaker 13: year anniversary of October seven.
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  Speaker 2: I sure, sorry, sorry to cut you off.
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  Speaker 3: I just want to show you what one of the
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  Speaker 3: pro Palestinian protesters or organizers set outside the court this morning.
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  Speaker 12: Believe there's a ceasefire in the next forty eight hours,
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  Speaker 12: Is there still a need.
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  Speaker 14: To protest in before Yes, because this goes beyond just
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  Speaker 14: the genocide over the last two years. Obviously, it's important
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  Speaker 14: because Israel has only been able to carry out a
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  Speaker 14: genocide because they have been armed by countries like Australia
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  Speaker 14: and the United States, because of the political support that
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  Speaker 14: they've received from those governments. We've seen hundreds of thousands
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  Speaker 14: of Palestinians have lost their lives because of that complicity.
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  Speaker 14: We need to end the policy of complicity with an
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  Speaker 14: apartheid regime, which has been a pressing Palestinian since nineteen
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  Speaker 14: forty seven.
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  Speaker 2: Now there's lie upon lie there.
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  Speaker 3: He's talking about the genocide that hasn't existed. He's talking
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  Speaker 3: about one hundreds of thousands of deaths, when even hummas
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  Speaker 3: Any talks about sixty six thousand deaths, and they would
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  Speaker 3: be largely inflated. But the key point is they're saying
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  Speaker 3: they'll still protest. Shouldn't they be out there celebrating peace
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  Speaker 3: rather than again trying to demonize Israel on Sunday.
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  Speaker 13: Well, it does expose the true motivations of the protesters,
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  Speaker 13: as you have said yourselves, which is to demonize Israel.
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  Speaker 13: Because anyone who in their hearts has been hoping for
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  Speaker 13: a piece over the last two years, anyone who has
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  Speaker 13: been distressed by the scenes they've seen on TV there
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  Speaker 13: are no winners in war, would be really pleased at
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  Speaker 13: their news today and would be hoping for and doing
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  Speaker 13: whatever they could to support the efforts for the hostages
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  Speaker 13: to be returned, for Hummus to disarm, for a new
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  Speaker 13: government to be established, so that the people of Gaza
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  Speaker 13: can start to rebuild their lives.
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  Speaker 2: Spot On. Thanks so much for joining us, Michelle. I
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  Speaker 2: appreciate Michelle Goldwyn.
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: There from you shall whils Jewish Board of Deputies. Good
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: news about that protest. Let's see how the police go
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: enforcing that. On Sunday there will be a protest. No
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: one's shutting down their right to protest. They just can't
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: protest on the Opera House for court. Let's go to
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: the coalition response to this groundshaking, world shaping news today.
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: Shadow Defense Minister Angus Taylor joins me from Canberra.
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: Good to talk to you again, Angus.
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: Just firstly, your response to what's been decided the deal
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: broken by Donald Trump obviously with Arab backing and the
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: Israeli support agreed to now by Hummas really an ultimatum
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: to Humas. So what role has Australia and Anthony Alberinezi
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: played in all of this?
• 22:41
  Speaker 15: Well, good to be with you, Chris. Look, this is
• 22:43
  Speaker 15: a great step forward. It's the best prospect we've seen
• 22:46
  Speaker 15: for peace. A big congratulations to Donald Trump, President of
• 22:51
  Speaker 15: the United States, of course, for being able to brok
• 22:55
  Speaker 15: of this.
• 22:55
  Speaker 16: There's a long way to go.
• 22:58
  Speaker 15: No thanks to the Prime Minister and other countries that
• 23:01
  Speaker 15: recognized Palestine. If the US said recognized Palestine, we would
• 23:06
  Speaker 15: not have got this agreement. There's no thanks to the
• 23:09
  Speaker 15: Prime Minister for the role he has played because it
• 23:12
  Speaker 15: wasn't appropriate to recognize Palestine until we have all the
• 23:16
  Speaker 15: preconditions in place, borders, hostage is released. Of course, none
• 23:21
  Speaker 15: of those things have happened yet. So look, the President
• 23:25
  Speaker 15: of the United States has done a good job here.
• 23:28
  Speaker 15: We all hope that this is going to hold and
• 23:30
  Speaker 15: it will move to the next phase. We certainly hope
• 23:33
  Speaker 15: the hostages will be released as soon as possible.
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I cannot wait to see it, and we have
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: every right to be wary given what we've seen in
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: the past. But let's hope we see that happen. Sunday
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: and Monday Australian time.
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: I want to get your.
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: Thoughts on the Isis Bride's issue because it dominated Parliament today.
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: I'll show firstly what the Home Affairs Minister Tony Burks
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: had to say about how much assistance they got in
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: coming back to Australia.
• 24:01
  Speaker 17: Under the laws governing passports, if someone is eligible for
• 24:05
  Speaker 17: a passport and applies to one of our embassies, there
• 24:09
  Speaker 17: is an obligation for them to be provided with it.
• 24:12
  Speaker 17: These individuals, these individuals received what they were entitled to
• 24:19
  Speaker 17: by law, no more.
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: And no less.
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: Now the government's been saying they provided no assistance. Now
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: they're saying they only provided the assistance they had to provide.
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: Why are they being so secretive about all of this.
• 24:35
  Speaker 15: Well, the first point, Chris is that these people we
• 24:38
  Speaker 15: don't want them coming back to the country. They have
• 24:42
  Speaker 15: supported a brutal and henous terrorist organization. I think most
• 24:47
  Speaker 15: Australians would agree we don't want them here. This government
• 24:51
  Speaker 15: just any responsibility.
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: So let me jump in there, Angus Taylor, because on
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: that point, can Australia stop them from returning if they're
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: Australian citizens?
• 25:01
  Speaker 15: Well, can I say that the government? The most important
• 25:04
  Speaker 15: point here is that the government has completely abdicated responsibility
• 25:08
  Speaker 15: for this issue, and you just heard that from Tony
• 25:11
  Speaker 15: Burke where he is simply saying, look, we've got to
• 25:14
  Speaker 15: do what the Lord tells us.
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 25:15
  Speaker 15: The truth is you can always change the law. That's
• 25:18
  Speaker 15: what governments can do. He hasn't answered serious questions about
• 25:22
  Speaker 15: that and what options there might have been to be
• 25:25
  Speaker 15: able to keep them out of the country. But further
• 25:27
  Speaker 15: beyond that, he's pretended that they haven't provided assistance. They
• 25:31
  Speaker 15: clearly have, and he hasn't been able to answer questions
• 25:34
  Speaker 15: about where they're going to be and whether there's risks
• 25:37
  Speaker 15: to those communities, And I think there are genuine and
• 25:41
  Speaker 15: genuinely held concerns about that this is a government that's
• 25:44
  Speaker 15: not taking But as.
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: The law stands now, was there any way to legally
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: prevent the adults, at least to Australian citizens coming back.
• 25:54
  Speaker 15: Well, I think there's reasonable questions about whether temporary exclusion
• 25:58
  Speaker 15: provisions can be used in this sort of case, and
• 26:02
  Speaker 15: I don't think the government's given appropriate answers to those questions.
• 26:07
  Speaker 15: I think there are real questions to be answered here.
• 26:09
  Speaker 15: What is clear is that these are not people who
• 26:13
  Speaker 15: we want in this country, given their support for Hamas
• 26:16
  Speaker 15: and of US as I said, is a brutal organization.
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: Well that they were supporting ISIS at that time, but
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: another is almost extremist organization.
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: A lot of people have come into the country from Gaza.
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: I hope you're going to ask soon whether the government
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: will send those people back now that.
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: There is a peace plan in place.
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: But I want to stay on the Isis Bride's issue
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: for a moment because there is more information to come
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: and the government is still not sharing it.
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: Here's some more from Parliament today.
• 26:43
  Speaker 15: Will the government be honest this time and tell these
• 26:45
  Speaker 15: shamed people how many more Isis brides will return, when
• 26:49
  Speaker 15: they will arrive, and where they will live.
• 26:51
  Speaker 9: The assumptions in the question are wrong because the assumption
• 26:55
  Speaker 9: suggests that they're coming back to Australia with our support,
• 26:58
  Speaker 9: which they are not.
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: So there's the Prime Minister presumably agreeing that there are
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: more Isis supporters coming back to the country, but not
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: giving Australians any more information, just denying that the government's
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: supporting it.
• 27:14
  Speaker 15: That's absolutely right, Chris. I should have said Isis not
• 27:16
  Speaker 15: mass earlier. You're right, but now that is absolutely right.
• 27:19
  Speaker 15: And what is clear is they are assisting. Now they're
• 27:22
  Speaker 15: saying they're bound to assist. I think there's questions they've
• 27:25
  Speaker 15: got to seriously answer about that. The truth is the
• 27:29
  Speaker 15: government doesn't have its heart in keeping these people out
• 27:32
  Speaker 15: of the country. That is the only conclusion I could
• 27:36
  Speaker 15: draw from sitting in the Parliament today. And they certainly
• 27:39
  Speaker 15: aren't giving us the information that I think Australians deserve
• 27:43
  Speaker 15: about whether they're going to be safe in the face
• 27:45
  Speaker 15: of these people coming back to the country. There was
• 27:46
  Speaker 15: a question yesterday in the Parliament about the Kalian and
• 27:49
  Speaker 15: Assyrian communities who have very deep concerns about ISIS and
• 27:54
  Speaker 15: what they've been subjected to bio ISIS in the past,
• 27:58
  Speaker 15: and again we didn't get appropriate answers.
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: From the government.
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: Angus Taylor, thanks so much for joining us.
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: Angus Taylor, they're the shadow Defense Minister live from Camber.
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: We got to take a break on the other side
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: and going across to Israel, we'll catch up with their deputy
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: Foreign Minister, Sharon Haskell to get the latest on the
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: Middle East peace deal. We're about to go live to
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: Israel to get the latest on the peace plan. But
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: first I just want to share with you a little
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: bit more of what President Trump had to say.
• 28:27
  Speaker 8: The world has come together around this deal, and that's
• 28:31
  Speaker 8: something I would say that without that, it wouldn't happen.
• 28:35
  Speaker 8: You know, many years they talked about peace in the
• 28:36
  Speaker 8: Middle East. This is more than Gaza. This is peace
• 28:39
  Speaker 8: in the Middle East. It's an incredible thing.
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: If all goes well, it could indeed, Herald and New Dawn,
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: let's go now to Israel and catch up with Sharon Haskell,
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: Israel's deputy Foreign Minister. Again, thank you so much for
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: joining us again, Sharon, I really appreciate it. Can you
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: can you share with us your sense at the moment
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: there must be credible optimism and enthusiasm, but also deep
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: weariness as well. Tell us how you and your government
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: expect the next days and weeks to unfold.
• 29:11
  Speaker 18: Well, today we have a governmental meeting that is going
• 29:14
  Speaker 18: to discuss in depth detail of this deal. But I
• 29:17
  Speaker 18: do believe that it will be approved in the cabinet.
• 29:21
  Speaker 18: We are very hopeful. We're very hopeful, but we are
• 29:26
  Speaker 18: being reserved because we understand and this deal is signed
• 29:30
  Speaker 18: with this terrorist organization. You know, we can't really trust
• 29:33
  Speaker 18: that it will be executed. But we really thank President
• 29:37
  Speaker 18: Trump for all the effort and the pressure that he
• 29:39
  Speaker 18: puts on Kanas gathering together Israel any our countries in
• 29:45
  Speaker 18: order to reach the cease fire, in order to release
• 29:48
  Speaker 18: the hostages. And you know, here in Israel, we all
• 29:52
  Speaker 18: pray that within a couple of days, at least at
• 29:56
  Speaker 18: least the twenty live hostages that have been held in
• 29:59
  Speaker 18: a dungeons of torture of Hamas for the last three years,
• 30:03
  Speaker 18: we'll be back home in the loving arms of their families.
• 30:06
  Speaker 19: It's just so much to hope for just walk us
• 30:11
  Speaker 19: through the detail there, just to confirm you believe there
• 30:14
  Speaker 19: are twenty living hostages still held by Hamas, and I
• 30:18
  Speaker 19: believe it's twenty eight bodies of killed hostages, And what
• 30:24
  Speaker 19: is the.
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: Time frame at the moment for their return.
• 30:28
  Speaker 18: So the timeframe that President Trump put in was seventy
• 30:32
  Speaker 18: two hours from the moment we signed the agreement. There
• 30:36
  Speaker 18: may have been some changes during the negotiation. We will
• 30:39
  Speaker 18: know more of the details after the Governmental Assembly that
• 30:46
  Speaker 18: or meeting that is going to happen later on today.
• 30:50
  Speaker 18: But it's also important to know that this is a
• 30:52
  Speaker 18: very difficult day for Israel as well, because we will
• 30:56
  Speaker 18: need to release hundreds of terrorists with blood on their hands,
• 31:00
  Speaker 18: people who have murdered children and women and innocent men
• 31:05
  Speaker 18: throughout the years. The families of those victims are in
• 31:09
  Speaker 18: a difficult situation and in a heartbreaking moment as well,
• 31:14
  Speaker 18: when they will know that be perpetrated those horrendous act,
• 31:19
  Speaker 18: monstrous act will be released really into society. Some Hamas
• 31:25
  Speaker 18: activists who have participated in the Seventh of ramass be released.
• 31:30
  Speaker 18: And so this is as much as it's such a
• 31:33
  Speaker 18: joyful moment, it is also a very difficult period of
• 31:37
  Speaker 18: time for US.
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: Israelis here.
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: It's a terrible price to pay and a very risky one.
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: But those prisoners in the mind will be released back
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: into the Palestinian territories. Tell me about some of the
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: Hamas leadership who will be given safe passage by Israel
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: to go to third countries. What countries are agreeing to
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: take Hamas leaders.
• 32:00
  Speaker 18: So unfortunately in the past, obviously Turkey and Katar have
• 32:07
  Speaker 18: accepted come outs and leadership. It's been living in luxurious
• 32:11
  Speaker 18: hotel while they conduct a war and they abuse their
• 32:16
  Speaker 18: people and put them through suffering. To those two countries
• 32:21
  Speaker 18: have accepted in them the past. But it's also important
• 32:24
  Speaker 18: to know that some European countries have accepted in the
• 32:27
  Speaker 18: past as well. We don't know all the details yet
• 32:31
  Speaker 18: and the you know, the the small letters of the
• 32:34
  Speaker 18: agreements are going to come into a discussion in a
• 32:37
  Speaker 18: few hours here at the Cabinet meeting of the Government
• 32:40
  Speaker 18: of Israel. We will discuss the names, the timelines, places
• 32:48
  Speaker 18: where they will be deported to. And these are very
• 32:54
  Speaker 18: difficult decisions that we need to make. But Chris, it's
• 32:58
  Speaker 18: also important to know that throughout the last two years
• 33:02
  Speaker 18: Israel have made huge concessions that has cost us so
• 33:05
  Speaker 18: much in order to go through a diplomatic path to
• 33:09
  Speaker 18: bring back our hostages home.
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: People have been gathering in Hostage Square in Tel Aviv
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: this morning that have been gathering there daily for two years.
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: I visited there earlier this year. I also went and
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: met with the hostage families who have their own organization
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: and means of support. Tell us about what's going to
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: happen with those hostage families, the support that the government's
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: going to continue to give them any in particular, the
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: support that's going to be needed for those families who
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: tragically will be welcoming home the bodies of their loved ones.
• 33:45
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 33:45
  Speaker 18: Well, you know, there has been celebration in a hostage
• 33:50
  Speaker 18: square since two o'clock in the morning. It is such
• 33:53
  Speaker 18: a relief for many of these families who will either
• 33:56
  Speaker 18: be able to hold and hug the loved ones or
• 34:00
  Speaker 18: finally they'll be able to bury their loved ones. It's
• 34:07
  Speaker 18: very difficult though, when they come back, and we know
• 34:10
  Speaker 18: that from testimonies of people who survived Hamas's captivity and
• 34:15
  Speaker 18: Hamas's torture, that the rehabilitation process is very, very difficult
• 34:22
  Speaker 18: many of them, most of them haven't returned to a
• 34:26
  Speaker 18: normal life. I think that most Israelis and most of
• 34:29
  Speaker 18: our society didn't start a healing process because we've been
• 34:33
  Speaker 18: waiting for them to come back home. And only now
• 34:37
  Speaker 18: if we'll be able to release them and bring them
• 34:39
  Speaker 18: back home, this entire nation will start a healing process.
• 34:44
  Speaker 18: But for those who are held for two years torture,
• 34:48
  Speaker 18: abuse sexually, physically, emotionally, psychologically, this can take years, if
• 34:56
  Speaker 18: not a lifetime, to recover from something like that.
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: Sharon Haskell, thank you so much again for joining us
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: today on this momentous day.
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: I appreciate it greatly.
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: Sharon Haskell there, the Israeli Deputy Foreign Minister. It's for
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: the hostages that I wear this badge and just a
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: poignant moment, there isn't it to think about those families
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: who will be so desperate to get the bodies of
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: their loved ones home so they can bury them. I'll
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: talk after the break to October the seventh survivor, Danny
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: Meisner and find out how he went meeting with Anthony Albanezi.
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: As I showed you on Tuesday, Opposition leader Susan Lee
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: met with Danny Meisner, the brother of the only Australian
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: victim of October the seventh, Galit Carbone. She was killed
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: on Kibbutzberi on October the seventh. Danny was there but survived.
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: I met him there earlier this year as he showed
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: me around the carnage, and during that meeting with Susan Lee,
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: he had a message for Australia.
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: Have a look.
• 36:00
  Speaker 20: I'm talking on behalf of all of the twelve hundred
• 36:04
  Speaker 20: murders and nine hundred soldiers that killed in the war.
• 36:06
  Speaker 20: But I don't want to bring it up now because
• 36:08
  Speaker 20: there's dead people from the other side. War is war.
• 36:11
  Speaker 20: We don't want wars. None of us want war. And
• 36:15
  Speaker 20: if I just may, I want to really ask the
• 36:21
  Speaker 20: Australian government and the PM to take a more active
• 36:26
  Speaker 20: part in trying to solve this conflict, huge conflict with
• 36:31
  Speaker 20: the Hamas and Israel.
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: Well, Danny had the chance to meet with the Prime
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: Minister and the Foreign Minister Pennywong yesterday, so I wanted
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: to catch up with him today to see how that
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: conversation went. Johnny Danny joins me now live from Sydney. Danny,
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: I'll find out about those meetings in a moment, But
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: because of the events of the last twenty four hours,
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: I first got to get your reaction to this news
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: of the peace deal and the prospect that all the
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: hostages will be back in Israel by perhaps as soon
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: as Sunday or Monday.
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: Well, hi, Chris, thanks for having me first of all
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: on the show. Yeah. Well, it took us all by surprise,
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: but I wouldn't.
• 37:12
  Speaker 21: Go as be as happy as I need to be,
• 37:16
  Speaker 21: really assured that the four dead bodies of my friends
• 37:21
  Speaker 21: you'll see, sah Many and Row will be back in
• 37:24
  Speaker 21: barely so we can have a closure, the families will
• 37:26
  Speaker 21: have a closure, and up till then you know, I
• 37:29
  Speaker 21: won't be opening the champagne bottles.
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we all want to see those hostages walk onto
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: Israeli soil and back into the arms of their families.
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: And as you mentioned with your friends, I was just
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: reflecting with your deputy.
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: Foreign Minister that.
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: That terrible bit of sweet moment where there are families
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: and friends like yourself waiting for bodies so you can
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: bury them and have closure. You must know many people
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: who are in that situation.
• 37:58
  Speaker 21: Yeah, absolutely absolutely, you must understand, Chris, as you saw.
• 38:02
  Speaker 21: It's a community. It's a very tight community. We used
• 38:04
  Speaker 21: to be about eleven hundred and fifty people, one hundred
• 38:07
  Speaker 21: and two of them were murdered, and yeah, everyone knows
• 38:11
  Speaker 21: everyone and unfortunately we don't have hostages that are alive
• 38:17
  Speaker 21: only for bodies. So really, really, all of us, and
• 38:21
  Speaker 21: I think all of the State of Israel and the
• 38:22
  Speaker 21: Middle East, we need a closure for that. So let's
• 38:25
  Speaker 21: hope it will go on. ASP Let's hope.
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: Indeed. Let me go back to what.
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: You've been doing here in Australia, and yesterday you got
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: time directly with the Prime Minister and with Penny One.
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: You've wanted them to have a different approach to what's
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: been going on in Israel.
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: Tell me what sort of a hearing did you get.
• 38:47
  Speaker 21: Well, yeah, first of all, I want to thank both
• 38:50
  Speaker 21: of them and all the MPs that received me very
• 38:54
  Speaker 21: warmly the day before. But it was really important for me, Chris,
• 38:58
  Speaker 21: to press our voice. I'm not talking only for myself.
• 39:02
  Speaker 21: I'm talking for the keyboards for the State of Israel.
• 39:06
  Speaker 21: I think Australia as a big nation needs to take
• 39:09
  Speaker 21: really a major part in the peace and the healing
• 39:13
  Speaker 21: of the Middle East. And it would be really nice
• 39:17
  Speaker 21: to say that my visit to the Prime Minister yesterday
• 39:20
  Speaker 21: made the result today, but I can't take that credit,
• 39:25
  Speaker 21: you know.
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: I think I fell.
• 39:26
  Speaker 21: On some hearing ears and it was really thankful for them.
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: Well, the trouble is, of course he wants peace. Everybody
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: wants peace. But Australia kind of counted itself out of
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: all this by getting on board with other countries demonizing Israel,
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: turning against it at the United Nations recognizing a non
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: existent Palestinian state. We surely were irrelevant that what has
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: solved this now has been the military campaign by Israel
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: and then Donald Trump coming in behind that and getting.
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: Arab support to put pressure on hum Us.
• 40:00
  Speaker 21: Your thoughts, well, my thought as an Australian citizen as well,
• 40:07
  Speaker 21: I really needed first of all, as a brother of
• 40:11
  Speaker 21: a victim on their day, I really wanted more involvement
• 40:15
  Speaker 21: of my government. I feel like part of an Australian
• 40:18
  Speaker 21: I'm here quite often and I really needed the PM
• 40:22
  Speaker 21: and the Senator.
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: Want to really to jump aboard be part of it.
• 40:27
  Speaker 21: I know there's political differences, yet I think and I
• 40:31
  Speaker 21: really believe that Australia needs to be that take it
• 40:34
  Speaker 21: more of a major part. You can't leave it everything
• 40:36
  Speaker 21: to mister Trump. And you know, as really a citizen
• 40:40
  Speaker 21: of the world, I call upon the UK Prime Minister,
• 40:45
  Speaker 21: the Italian, the French, you know, just all of them
• 40:49
  Speaker 21: come aboard. You know, if there's a piece in the
• 40:51
  Speaker 21: Middle East, everyone will benefit from it. It's not only
• 40:54
  Speaker 21: me and my family, my community in my state. Everyone
• 40:57
  Speaker 21: will benefit it. You can't just go and praise Israel
• 41:00
  Speaker 21: when they do what they did in Iran and the
• 41:02
  Speaker 21: Grisbeal and the Yemenites. Just do whatever needs to be
• 41:06
  Speaker 21: done on the other accounts.
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: That's why if this police plan works, it can be
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: a watershed and Australia could get more involved because there
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: will be a rebuilding of Gaza that will require not
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  Speaker 3: only construction and infrastructure, but it will require education and
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  Speaker 3: industry and agriculture, and Australia could be very important there
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  Speaker 3: and those other countries you mentioned. It needs to be
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: a global project, right because it can't be left to Israel.
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  Speaker 3: In fact, the Palestinian population there probably don't want it
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  Speaker 3: left to Israel.
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  Speaker 21: Absolutely. And first of all, you know, let's get the
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  Speaker 21: UN aboard. I don't think the UN and the General
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  Speaker 21: Secretary was there ever in the past two years. And really,
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  Speaker 21: as I think Shimon peals is to say, it's a
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  Speaker 21: new Middle East.
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  Speaker 1: We can do and we can rebuild a new Middle East.
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  Speaker 21: And I mean, like you know, now, really I just
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  Speaker 21: want to say something else, Chris, if I may that
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  Speaker 21: where are these propels that used to cry and cry
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  Speaker 21: and cry? Now there's a peace, Why don't you come
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  Speaker 21: out and phrase the agreement that's going to happen.
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  Speaker 1: You know, that's what you wanted. You've got it.
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: Now come aboard exactly celebrate the peace. Danny.
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  Speaker 3: I admire what you've done coming out here, honoring your
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: sister and your friends by keeping this issue prominent in
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: the Australian mind and confronting Australian politicians with it.
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  Speaker 2: So I hope you get.
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: To relax with friends and get some time at the
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: beach in coming days.
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  Speaker 1: Well do Thanks so Lord Chris for having me appreciate it.
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: Danny Meisner, there dual citizen, as you know, from Israel
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: and Australia, with some personal perspectives and some good advice
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: for governments here and abroad. Now a lot of you
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: have noticed this pin on my lapel that I've been
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: wearing for many, many days. Of course, it's Australian flag
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: and an Israel flag. I love Australia and I'm a
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: supporter of Israel and certainly have been a supporter of
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: Israel in this war. I just want to have a
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: flashback eighteen months ago. For those of you who wonder
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: why I wear this, This is a This is an explanation.
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  Speaker 2: So I have on my.
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: Lapel now and Australia Israel Friendship badge courtesy of Dava.
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: I'm very happy to wear that, especially on this sad
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: anniversary six months on from October the seventh, and I'll
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: leave that on until all those hostages are freed.
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: I put it on the sixth month anniversary of October
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: the seventh, said I would leave it there till all
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: the hostages are back. I had no sense then that
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: eighteen months later, two years into this horror, the hostages
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: would still be in Huma's hands and I'd still have
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: this badge on. But with any luck, things will change.
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: Early next week we better take a break.
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: On the other side, I'll catch up with Tim Blair
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: and Mark Nixon. We'll talk about the Liberal Party chaos.
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: That's unfolding in Canberra. Let's convene our national Cabinet more
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: a national Troyka really catch up with the Daily Telegraphs
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: Tim Blair in Western Victoria and Mark Nicholson from Stepmatee
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  Speaker 3: Studios in Melbourne.
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  Speaker 2: Great to see you both.
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: What promising news we have out of the Middle East today?
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: And Tim?
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: How are people going to demonize Donald Trump when he's
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: proving in this case to perhaps be a historic peacemaker.
• 44:27
  Speaker 16: I just I kind of think they'll find a way,
• 44:31
  Speaker 16: will given given a decades history of of anything he does,
• 44:37
  Speaker 16: whether it's judged to be good or bad, end in
• 44:39
  Speaker 16: him being demonized.
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: I figure we'll.
• 44:41
  Speaker 16: See a bit more shadow cast his way. But I'd
• 44:45
  Speaker 16: just say, from a perspective of someone who's long lived
• 44:49
  Speaker 16: in Sydney and works for a Sydney newspaper, now might
• 44:52
  Speaker 16: be the time for the planned protest to not be planned,
• 44:55
  Speaker 16: to actually show a bit of faith in the in
• 44:59
  Speaker 16: the peace talk going ahead and just abandon this idiotic
• 45:02
  Speaker 16: notion to march on either the Opera House or in
• 45:05
  Speaker 16: the CBD on Sunday.
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: It is extraordinary.
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: It means that the Sydney protesters have got more staying
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: power than Hummas, which is saying something they don't even
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: have tunnels to hide in. What they should do, Mark surely,
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: is turn it into a celebration of peace, or at
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: least a push for peace, rather than the usual demonization
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: of Israel.
• 45:31
  Speaker 12: As you guys were just talking about in the segment
• 45:33
  Speaker 12: just before this. You know, that's where are they now?
• 45:35
  Speaker 12: They're not even there. They should be celebrating this. This
• 45:37
  Speaker 12: is absolutely what they should be celebrating, the world should
• 45:40
  Speaker 12: be celebrating. I mean Trump, love him or hate him,
• 45:43
  Speaker 12: he absolutely he wants peace. Whether that's just so he
• 45:46
  Speaker 12: can get the Peace Prize, I don't know, the Nobel
• 45:48
  Speaker 12: Peace Prize regardless, it's that there are worse aspirations for
• 45:52
  Speaker 12: a president to have, and I think at this point
• 45:54
  Speaker 12: he absolutely deserves the.
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: Peace Prize if it holds up.
• 45:58
  Speaker 12: But it just goes to show that you can do
• 46:00
  Speaker 12: it through being a little bit more forceful. You don't
• 46:02
  Speaker 12: have to be a crazy soft lefty. You can have
• 46:04
  Speaker 12: a Department of War. You can be a good conservative
• 46:07
  Speaker 12: and go for it and you can achieve great things.
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: You don't have to be soft.
• 46:11
  Speaker 12: Yeah, well, in fact, you know, I just hate.
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: To be and in fact, weakness is provocative.
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: The only way you can have peace and maintain pieces
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: through strength. You're talking about a nobel peace Price. I
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: tell you one group who would nominate and second Donald
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: Trump for that would be the hostage families.
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: Here's a bit of that phone call they had with
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: Trump earlier. Thank you so much.
• 46:33
  Speaker 7: Less it be the keysmaker.
• 46:34
  Speaker 5: God bless you, mister president, God bless America very much.
• 46:37
  Speaker 5: You just say here yourself, the hostages will come back
• 46:40
  Speaker 5: there or coming back on Monday.
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: What a moment. Timmy just talks to people like a
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: normal human being, doesn't he. That's the whole.
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: Key to it.
• 46:52
  Speaker 16: He's genuine. There's an honesty to him in his presentation.
• 46:56
  Speaker 16: The Donald Trump you see and here in private is
• 46:59
  Speaker 16: evidently the Donald Trump that you get on television. And
• 47:02
  Speaker 16: it's that that's in dramatic contrast to just to pick
• 47:05
  Speaker 16: one example, the person who ran against in the most
• 47:08
  Speaker 16: recent US election.
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: Well, talking about peacemakers.
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: They're talking about peacemakers that they need one in the
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: coalition down in Canberra. All sorts of stories breaking each
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: way and that and leaks and in a letter to
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: the leader Senator just in the Namba Jimba Price called
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: them a clown show, which says pretty close.
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: To the mark. Here's a little bit more of what
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: she had to say.
• 47:30
  Speaker 6: I've written to our leader about my concerns about backgrounding
• 47:34
  Speaker 6: and about leaking enough enough. It's just become, you know, juvenile,
• 47:41
  Speaker 6: this kind of conduct with in commentary on the fact
• 47:44
  Speaker 6: that we look like a clown show.
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: A cloud shape mark you've made.
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: You know, you've made a reputation out of the clown
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: show in Canbra.
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: They're trying to they're trying to steal your line of work.
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: I know, yeah, I know.
• 48:01
  Speaker 12: They don't even need satire because they've become a satire
• 48:03
  Speaker 12: of themselves, which is just phenomenal. But to the point
• 48:07
  Speaker 12: we're just talking about with Trump, and I think this
• 48:09
  Speaker 12: is this is what it is between Price and Hasty.
• 48:12
  Speaker 12: They're not that they speak.
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: Like normal people.
• 48:15
  Speaker 12: That is that that is how a normal person will talk,
• 48:17
  Speaker 12: and that is how most people believe the Liberal Party is.
• 48:20
  Speaker 12: That's how you describe them at this point, like Susan
• 48:23
  Speaker 12: Lee's writing letters for Christ's a it's not you know,
• 48:26
  Speaker 12: she's out there talking about it. That's exactly how we
• 48:28
  Speaker 12: should be doing it. They need to hurry up, get
• 48:30
  Speaker 12: moving The only hope the Liberal Party's got is hasty
• 48:34
  Speaker 12: and price to have a crack at this, because that's it.
• 48:37
  Speaker 12: It's done. Otherwise, they're cactus because they're and ironically cactus.
• 48:41
  Speaker 12: The only way to kill a cactus if it gets
• 48:43
  Speaker 12: too wet. That's the problem with the Liberal parties. They're
• 48:45
  Speaker 12: too wet, They're too soft. They can fire up and
• 48:48
  Speaker 12: hurry up and get moving. I don't mind if we
• 48:50
  Speaker 12: the Liberal Party dies, it all goes to one nation.
• 48:51
  Speaker 12: That's preferable to me. But we need a good, solid
• 48:54
  Speaker 12: conservative opposition and hurry up.
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: Get direct together. I've just got to try and squeeze
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: in a bit of great Tom before we go for you.
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: Tim.
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: Here she is landing back in Sweden. Yeah, there she
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: goes very happy.
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: But Tim, she's been sharing photos of what she claims
• 49:23
  Speaker 3: were Palestinians being mistreated in Israeli prisons. Turns out it
• 49:26
  Speaker 3: was an Israeli hostage in a Hamas tunnel.
• 49:30
  Speaker 16: Yeah, she's not great on the details. Let's just let's
• 49:33
  Speaker 16: just put it that. I mean good luck to her.
• 49:35
  Speaker 16: I haven't seen her that happy since she graduated from
• 49:37
  Speaker 16: high school.
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: Never did that.
• 49:43
  Speaker 3: Great to talk to you guys on this happy newsday,
• 49:46
  Speaker 3: this promising news day.
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: We'll catch up with you next week.
• 49:49
  Speaker 3: That's all the time we've got for you this week
• 49:51
  Speaker 3: on The Kenny Report, Tune into Danika this time tomorrow.
• 49:54
  Speaker 3: Coming up next, Steve Price for Peter Quidlin.