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Club 520 - Derrick Rose on NBA retirement, MVP season with Bulls, scoring 50 with Timberwolves · Club 520 Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Another episode of Club five to twenty Podcasts. I'm the
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  Speaker 1: host Miams DJ Wells. We got a legend, legend, legend, legend,
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  Speaker 1: and to build a class at seven crazy how it
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  Speaker 2: We're here for a reason. We're gonna introduce him last though.
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  Speaker 1: To my far left, we got my dog Bis should
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  Speaker 1: be hearing out the prail les how you a nasty,
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  Speaker 1: cool and nasty baby. Let's get to it. You got
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  Speaker 1: to b Swift, legend holding it down for forty two.
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  Speaker 1: Dug my dog here, but I'm glad you pulled back
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  Speaker 1: up to work. My boy, I'm back, I'm bag. Let's
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  Speaker 1: get to it.
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  Speaker 2: Bro, you were always know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: I know you've been a lot of places, especially you
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  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying from the shot those shoes over here,
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  Speaker 1: you see the black forces with the white class. When
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  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, You at the crib and
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  Speaker 1: you see those what's the first thing to come to
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  Speaker 1: your mind?
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  Speaker 2: I'll show you jack jacking something. Watch out, bro, I
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  Speaker 2: don't steal I heal your wallet. The white laces is crazy.
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  Speaker 2: So you'll call me a skamer. You said you showing it?
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  Speaker 2: You alrea'y talking about the nagery. You might might be
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  Speaker 2: a lineage on a right, my dog young not show
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  Speaker 2: young tig how you are man.
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  Speaker 1: I'm chilling, man, I'm geeked. Know how I feel about
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  Speaker 1: seven and now we got my dog.
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  Speaker 2: In the building.
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  Speaker 1: It's about to be a great Now. I'm gonna let
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  Speaker 1: you do the honestly introducing me. But I'm like, listen,
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  Speaker 1: it's very rarely to everybody. We had that one person
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  Speaker 1: on our list when we start this podcast, like who
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  Speaker 1: we wanted on this show. It was this man right here,
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  Speaker 1: legend our con youngest m v P wanted the best
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  Speaker 1: to do it. Your favorite Hooper's favorite Hooper we got
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  Speaker 1: d Rose Derrick Rose in the building. Appreciate you pulling up,
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  Speaker 1: big dogs, love man.
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  Speaker 2: Man have to pull up west Ship. You know what
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  Speaker 2: I'm saying. You know what it is. Listen Like I said,
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  Speaker 2: but we all be fanned out different souff.
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  Speaker 1: But when we found out that Rock with the show,
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  Speaker 1: but that meant a lot to us about for real,
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  Speaker 1: for real bro.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, of course me, my son and my team, uh
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  Speaker 4: Random and Maddie. They told me about it to the squad.
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  Speaker 4: Of course, right when the idea came up, I had
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  Speaker 4: to pull up. And with it being so close to Chicago.
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  Speaker 2: So the niggas got your cater, bro listen door days
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  Speaker 2: to beat up.
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  Speaker 1: I usually I'll usually holder somebody something, but we was like,
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  Speaker 1: freaking I told you, boy, you might be a cater
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  Speaker 1: first boy fall shout to chaff y'all went crazy for
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  Speaker 1: this episode. Man, I gotta say something before we really start.
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  Speaker 1: But my dog Mike, All Mike is our guy behind
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  Speaker 1: the scenes. But they know freaking Mike the podcast. He
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  Speaker 1: told me, I don't get excited about too many Yes, Bro,
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  Speaker 1: I said.
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  Speaker 2: What freak might put on the whole outfit and he
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  Speaker 2: took his food off.
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  Speaker 5: He put the freshoes on.
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  Speaker 2: He Wilent, You're different. I respect them. You can't even
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  Speaker 2: say that niggas and rolls.
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  Speaker 1: Shout out to freaking Miif for hold it down. Man,
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  Speaker 1: But listen, man, we are honored that you were here.
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  Speaker 2: Man. Man, we just got to start with it. My
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  Speaker 2: heart felt over.
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  Speaker 1: This is crazy, man, I want to say, Man, shout
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  Speaker 1: out to you and the team.
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  Speaker 2: Man.
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  Speaker 1: One of the best rollosts I have ever seen. Wow
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  Speaker 1: for rel Fred, just the way that she went through everything.
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  Speaker 1: And we were joking with you about this. We were
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  Speaker 1: just like De roll such a legend. He the only
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  Speaker 1: person who could send another de Rosa and nobody think
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  Speaker 1: nohing knowlse of it, Like, ain't nobody have.
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  Speaker 2: Anybody what what?
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  Speaker 5: Like?
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  Speaker 2: No, that's de row Bro. It's the reason for that.
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  Speaker 6: I'm glad it came with a note ats in trouble.
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  Speaker 2: I was nervous at the card.
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  Speaker 1: So it's crazy because the week before I have bought
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  Speaker 1: my wife and roses and put them on there, so
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  Speaker 1: they died or whatever. So she sent me a picture
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  Speaker 1: of them. I'm like, damn, she didn't buy her all
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  Speaker 1: rolls up. I was like, I would have got them,
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  Speaker 1: and she was like fool read the note.
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  Speaker 4: I was like, oh, so it was love bro. Me
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  Speaker 4: and my team we decided to like just come up
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  Speaker 4: with something different, you know, like, uh, we did that
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  Speaker 4: within like two weeks, randoming Maddie around Maddie, Uh, standing
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  Speaker 4: up late, going over ship to the day before, stand
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  Speaker 4: up to three o'clock in the morning to send out
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  Speaker 4: the post, making sure you got your eyes cross your t's.
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  Speaker 4: But this whole ship was about like just giving back
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  Speaker 4: or just flipping everything on his head, where normally when
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  Speaker 4: you do do something like this, uh, you receive the flowers.
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  Speaker 4: But I didn't get here by myself, you know what
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  Speaker 4: I'm saying. I got here with Rando. I've been knowing
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  Speaker 4: him since sixth grade. I've been on Mattie since for
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  Speaker 4: ten plus years now. And my team it's the same thing.
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  Speaker 4: It's sixth grade and that's something that we built. We're
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  Speaker 4: building the empire right now, but just doing the right way,
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  Speaker 4: trying to do it with class and just showing a
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  Speaker 4: lot of love and support to all the fans.
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  Speaker 1: We definitely appreciate that. I know, you know, for you
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  Speaker 1: can speak on this. You know what I'm saying, Class
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  Speaker 1: all seven, you know, what I'm saying, career, you know
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  Speaker 1: this time, how was that Like that moment you was
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  Speaker 1: like all right, you know, I'm gonna see what the
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  Speaker 1: other side might be for a second. See, my retirement
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  Speaker 1: was a little different. It was kind of because of injury,
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  Speaker 1: but I just knew my time was up. I wanted
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  Speaker 1: to ask you, like, when did you know you were
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  Speaker 1: done playing? Like what made you feel like, yeah, I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna hang it up? Because I feel like, to me
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  Speaker 1: watching you, annoying you, I'm like, man, he could play forever.
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  Speaker 1: I just think you had that ability. I just wonder, like,
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  Speaker 1: what made you want to hang it up?
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  Speaker 4: Bruh, I've been thinking about it for a while, bro.
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  Speaker 4: But well I was just telling you in the room,
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  Speaker 4: or telling y'all in the room about like, uh.
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  Speaker 2: Like give me your all.
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  Speaker 4: To your kids, Like my younger kids, they don't mention
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  Speaker 4: the game at all. They don't say they don't ask
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  Speaker 4: about are we going to the game? They don't say nothing, bro.
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  Speaker 4: So with PJ, I have to talk to him a
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  Speaker 4: little bit different. So before I even talked to everybody,
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  Speaker 4: we in the room, it's me and him just talking.
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  Speaker 4: And before then I'm thinking the whole time. My damn,
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  Speaker 4: I'm gonna have this conversation with him, right. So we're
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  Speaker 4: talking and he brings up Kanye then and we was
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  Speaker 4: just in the room talking bell mellow. So I'm like, ah,
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  Speaker 4: it's time. I'm like, come downstairs. He comes downstairs. I'm like, bro,
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  Speaker 4: how you think he got better? He was like, he's
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  Speaker 4: working out with a trainer. I'm like, who else in
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  Speaker 4: the Gym's his dad?
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  Speaker 2: Like his dad? Huh? Like his dad present? I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: you think Melloone't got nothing to do with that?
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  Speaker 4: He was like yeah. But after I kept talking. At first,
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  Speaker 4: when I told him, of course devastated, hurt. But after
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  Speaker 4: I kept talking to him, he was excited because he's seen, like, man,
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  Speaker 4: now I get this individual time with my dad and
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  Speaker 4: like my son, he know exactly where he's at right now,
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  Speaker 4: like this moment, he knows exactly where he's at. So
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  Speaker 4: for me to tell him that in the family, be
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  Speaker 4: like sad at first and be excited.
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  Speaker 2: And since that day it's been nothing beloved. But I
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  Speaker 2: knew right.
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  Speaker 4: Like sometime since since like last year, I'm going through it.
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  Speaker 4: You know, you go through the rehabs. You're the only
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  Speaker 4: one that's going through that shit, bro, Like nobody else,
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  Speaker 4: your family members, nobody else's staff, nobody going through it
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  Speaker 4: with you. So I'm like, man, you have the question
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  Speaker 4: of like what the fuck am I doing? Like you
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  Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, give him all Like it's cool.
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  Speaker 4: But I want to be able to elevate too, show growth.
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  Speaker 4: And that's one of the reasons why I came on
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  Speaker 4: here because I wanted to tell my stories and to
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  Speaker 4: be able to articulate myself and show people to growth
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  Speaker 4: from when I first came to the league to now
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  Speaker 4: with me being a grown as well.
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  Speaker 1: That's real broact And like you said, like the influence,
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  Speaker 1: especially at this age is so impressionable with kids growing
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  Speaker 1: up so fast, being exposed to so much. And we
• 9:24
  Speaker 1: were talking like in a room like you know what
• 9:25
  Speaker 1: I'm saying, shout out to pop tea, like having yall
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  Speaker 1: energy early on having like you said, it does make
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  Speaker 1: a difference. No facts, facts, but I wanted to make
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  Speaker 1: sure that we clarify that, like you decided to retire,
• 9:38
  Speaker 1: not that anything else like situation with Memphis, if you
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  Speaker 1: won't speak on.
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  Speaker 4: It, yeah, I mean even with that, I really didn't
• 9:47
  Speaker 4: want to speak on it. But people thought that like
• 9:50
  Speaker 4: they weighed me. That's just the process of them trying to,
• 9:52
  Speaker 4: I guess, do business or figure out the numbers on
• 9:55
  Speaker 4: the back end, in which that has nothing to do
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  Speaker 4: with me. But what I can control this what I did.
• 10:02
  Speaker 4: I reached out to Zach Pryor, I reached out to
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  Speaker 4: my team, reached out to everyone prior and told them,
• 10:08
  Speaker 4: reached out to Adidas so that everybody's on the same accord.
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  Speaker 4: And yeah, just doing good business. That's something that I
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  Speaker 4: always did throughout my whole career. Even though I fucked
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  Speaker 4: up in the beginning by having some lessons I had
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  Speaker 4: to learn. I got through that, and I'm all always
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  Speaker 4: been optimistic, bro, as long as I got my breath. Bro,
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  Speaker 4: I'm always gonna give my I know I got a chance,
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  Speaker 4: and I feel like that way about anybody around me,
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  Speaker 4: So like, yeah, give them all, and you know, just
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  Speaker 4: paying attention to where I'm at this time for sure.
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  Speaker 1: Now listen, man, we're gonna talk about the career we
• 10:45
  Speaker 1: got to talk about the first time y'all met.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 2: We got to talk about that. I'll be waiting for
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  Speaker 2: this quick thirty.
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  Speaker 1: Listen, first time man, right just before I was even
• 10:59
  Speaker 1: like getting thirty because I did kill them.
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  Speaker 2: No word, get that. We get to that. We'll get
• 11:04
  Speaker 2: to that. We get to that. But I seen him
• 11:06
  Speaker 2: in eighth grade, going to eighth grade.
• 11:08
  Speaker 1: He played for a team called Ferrari and it was
• 11:11
  Speaker 1: a team called Houston Hoops. We in the gas station
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  Speaker 1: and they like you good, but they just talking to us,
• 11:17
  Speaker 1: like he not you nice?
• 11:18
  Speaker 2: This dude nice? But you ever seen Derrick Rose? I'm like,
• 11:23
  Speaker 2: who that? And your name?
• 11:25
  Speaker 1: Like your name sound fake, like Derrick Rose, Like you
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  Speaker 1: don't hear nobody's last name road like instead of jay
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  Speaker 1: Len Rose.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, he called, like they call him the
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  Speaker 2: Rose he called.
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  Speaker 1: So we go to the game, y'all happened to be
• 11:36
  Speaker 1: playing a team from Memphis. It was just a Memphis
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  Speaker 1: Magic boom. You remember that, right, Memphis Magic.
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  Speaker 2: That's crazy. I remember that. I do.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm like, they threw the first play, they threw
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  Speaker 1: you alive, and you went, you ain't dunky, You just
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  Speaker 1: finger rolled it in And I said, oh, ship, ain't
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  Speaker 1: nobody else doing that? And they had one dude, they
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  Speaker 1: might have beat y'all. Yeah, I would say they might
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  Speaker 1: have beat you. I had one dude that was cooking.
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  Speaker 1: I can't remember the Georgia Georgia tech. I forgot his name,
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  Speaker 1: Mae Miller. Yeah there, Yes, he had a good game.
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  Speaker 1: He had a good game, but I'll never forget. I
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  Speaker 1: was like, yeah, that nigga different, like this nigga killing,
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  Speaker 1: but that nigga moving faster, jumping harder than everybody. And
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  Speaker 1: my dad was like, we're gonna be reading about him.
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  Speaker 1: You know, my dad, yo, can be reading about him.
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  Speaker 1: He ain't supposed to be on this team.
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  Speaker 2: He was like, he you know, he older?
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  Speaker 5: Gave you to me.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, what the fuck? They like, yo? You you
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  Speaker 2: a couple of months older than him? What the fuck?
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  Speaker 2: Happy belated too? Yeah for sure?
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  Speaker 4: Way about Mike Bruh and USA. We played sixteen or
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  Speaker 4: seventeen USA.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, he my roommate his he. I had to look
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  Speaker 1: at his I D. His I D was on the
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  Speaker 1: table right he left the room. I'm like, he's so good, bro,
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  Speaker 1: I gotta see if you your I looked at his
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  Speaker 1: I D.
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  Speaker 2: Bro he was younger. Who Mike younger than us?
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  Speaker 1: Bro?
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  Speaker 2: Cold Bro, I'm like you this cold shout out to
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  Speaker 2: Mike man, fact, keep your head up, nigga.
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  Speaker 1: That's when I first met he played for I'm not
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  Speaker 1: mad him, but that's first on my scene.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, but my first time I played against you. So
• 13:38
  Speaker 4: we had tone sticking you and you had braids. Then
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  Speaker 4: you have gone thirty bro, and tone our coach he
• 13:46
  Speaker 4: uh tone the guy that was sticking you, his dad
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  Speaker 4: was the coach and he will not get tone off
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  Speaker 4: of him. So we're like, Bro, this whole game, Jeff
• 13:55
  Speaker 4: waring them out, Bro hitting the three step back tone,
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  Speaker 4: lader movement, fucked up, got all that, Bruh. By the end,
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  Speaker 4: did we beat We ended up beating him, But he
• 14:07
  Speaker 4: had a great game, and I'm like, bro, I got
• 14:09
  Speaker 4: a watch, dude.
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  Speaker 2: Bro.
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  Speaker 4: But and in our class, when you ran up against
• 14:14
  Speaker 4: niggas like that, you knew like uh it challenged you
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  Speaker 4: in a way, though, Bro, When like I was when
• 14:22
  Speaker 4: we were talking the room about o Ja, yes, sir,
• 14:25
  Speaker 4: when I seen for the first time bru that, he
• 14:28
  Speaker 4: changed my whole perspective of the game and like made
• 14:32
  Speaker 4: me feel like I wasn't working hard enough and my
• 14:35
  Speaker 4: whole chase for the ship was like chasing him. So
• 14:39
  Speaker 4: the old nigga you put that bathroom in my back
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  Speaker 4: for sure. Juice juice for show.
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  Speaker 2: Nah, that nigga was different.
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  Speaker 1: I'll never forget when y'all got to because we went
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: to ab CD that year last year and you had
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: got hurt.
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  Speaker 2: But the magic. You know.
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  Speaker 1: I don't forget ship. I don't ship the matchup with y'all.
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  Speaker 1: But I'm from Indiana, so I know I seen you.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, Oh, they don't know this nigga about to
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: kill that nigga.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm like rooting.
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  Speaker 1: It's like, I don't know why I'm rooting for you,
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: but I'm rooting for you. Like, kill him and you
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: get hurt, so everybody like he hurt, he's scary's scared.
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: Then I see y'all in Vegas, I'm like, yeah, that
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: nigga ain't scared. Niggas tripping. They was going at it, bro,
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  Speaker 1: They was having a game. It was one of the
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: best games I seen him at Eric against O J
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  Speaker 1: and Bill.
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: That shit's crazy. We chased him, bro.
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  Speaker 4: We used to go to tournaments looking for him, Like
• 15:33
  Speaker 4: really chased oj my nigga. That's that could be a
• 15:36
  Speaker 4: whole chapter of my ship, chasing him, going to tournaments.
• 15:39
  Speaker 4: Stay in the game, but it's really it's us too,
• 15:41
  Speaker 4: by our coaches on bullshit too. We hit we were
• 15:45
  Speaker 4: them the same ship. I'm quiet, of course I'm in
• 15:47
  Speaker 4: the cut, but I'm on that too, nigga, like like
• 15:51
  Speaker 4: we we wanted that matchup, especially since we played them
• 15:54
  Speaker 4: like in seven or eight, seven or eight and he
• 15:57
  Speaker 4: he was on the whole other level and I'm never
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  Speaker 4: forgot that, Like that's my baseline right there, Like yeah,
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  Speaker 4: like I went back to Shah, I stayed.
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  Speaker 2: In the gym, my nigga.
• 16:08
  Speaker 4: I I think my junior year we was coached to
• 16:12
  Speaker 4: playing them, but that Tyreek and all them was it
• 16:14
  Speaker 4: was in some tournament and the ship ended up like
• 16:17
  Speaker 4: not happening, and that Vegas one that we and we
• 16:21
  Speaker 4: had e J I'm like, come on, I was playing.
• 16:24
  Speaker 4: I had nobody else that was really like a D
• 16:27
  Speaker 4: one player at that time on my team like that,
• 16:30
  Speaker 4: So he had three or four guys, but like play
• 16:33
  Speaker 4: against the Vegas on that stage and to know that
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: everybody like the alarms and ship was going on that
• 16:40
  Speaker 4: ship was nuts.
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: But it was crazy, he said.
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: We talked about we were talking to about our seven
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: him and like that's the craziest back where played them.
• 16:50
  Speaker 6: That's crazy. How'd you feel about him joining the team?
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: Would you? Like? I love my niggas, but like we played.
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: I played on the team with full of winners. Bro
• 17:02
  Speaker 4: We won even though we was undersized and all that,
• 17:05
  Speaker 4: we won a lot of games.
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: So when we got him.
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: They like, hell yeah, like we got another dude that
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: can go and e J. We needed that because I
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: was scoring my brother. In high school, I played more
• 17:18
  Speaker 4: organized ship. I was playing the three like my freshman year,
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: so I don't really have the ball in my hands
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: because my man right there, Iran, he had the He
• 17:28
  Speaker 4: was the point that push you to the three juice,
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: my nig we had like a system. So like even
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: when I came in, I played JV because the head
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: coach was like, nah, like we you gonna listen, You're
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: gonna buy by the rules. You you ain't bigger than
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: the system. And I went to the school only because ranking.
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: So I'm like all right, like, but we won and
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: I fucked around with the niggas. I'm like, all right, like,
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: it's love we winning and we low key we had
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: a beat y'all varsity niggas. Anyway, if y'all put it
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: when we used to practice and shit, that's how we felt.
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: So it was all love.
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: But the system was the big man get majority of
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: the shots, and everybody else fine with whatever they gotta do,
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: like find your way throughout the game. Until like my
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: my brother started coaching and he like, man, I'm gonna
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: put you at the point. That was like my sophomore
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: junior year, put me at the point. I started going
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: back to school and they started to like let me
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: play with the ball a little bit more. So I'm like,
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: all right, I'm running up the court. They I don't
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: got to plan the system, noring, I'm getting libs and
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: all that, and now I'm pushing the point and everybody
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: else following me. So it opened up my game for real.
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: But at that school it was strictly just But I
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: fucked with it though, because Semeon groomed me into like
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: all of the guys that went there and groomed us
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: into like really being young men, learning like discipline, learning
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: that you just can't funk off, even though we were
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: like knuckleheads and all that shit, but like knowing that, man,
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: we have a we have a bond that's bigger than
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: justice basketball shit, and that's something that we hold on
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: to this day. We have picnics to this day at
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: our school, and that's rare for like a public school
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: to still be having picnics, to going on and all
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: that shit.
• 19:20
  Speaker 6: What made you choose twenty five and sent me.
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: On, Bean Wilson, I didn't choose it. All this shit
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: chose me. Bro everything that I've ever been in, I
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: lived in the unknown my whole life. All this shit
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: just came to me. I never wanted none of this
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: so fame, none of that, even hooping, my current or
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: my basketball dream. I didn't know about salaries and none
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: of that until like my my sophomore year, it clicked.
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: Like that may sound crazy, nigga, think about that your
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: sophomore year. It clicked like damn, I could change my
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: family life with this. All the way until my sophomore year,
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: I had your that's a pure love for the game.
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: I didn't look at nigga salaries. I didn't look at
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: NBA games like that. I ain't look at nigga outside.
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: I'm hooping. I'm somewhere playing because I had a pure
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: love sophomore year hit. I'm like, damn, I'm sending the
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: wrong man. I'm arguing with my mom at the time
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: and all that. You know, mom got that little ship
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: in high school, you look like and I'm arguing with her.
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: Then they clicked, like, man, I could change this ship
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: if I go to the league early. I'm looking at KD. Now,
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: I'm like, if KD leave, I'm gone. They changed the rule,
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: change the rule, change the rule. So I'm like, damn,
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: I gotta do a year. I have to do the year.
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: But I was, I ain't pay attention to none of
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: that ship until my sophomore year.
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: Another rule that you help a lot of people get
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: paid with the rolls rule, pioneer my boy, Like I said,
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: you look at that, and now look at everybody else's
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: benefiting for you.
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: Love. Yeah, I mean, that's that's one.
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: That's the only thing I care about, bro, even the
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: wave or the vibration that I'm in right now, like
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: I call it DZY seven twenty, like DZ stand ford,
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: don't forget about the zealous youth, and zealous means pursuit
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: of a great cause or great energy. So don't forget
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: about the use and pursuit of a great cause. So
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: like getting back and I feel like that was one
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: of our ways of like getting back, you know, like
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: me and my team, not only my team, but the fans,
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: because at that time, I'm I'm doing this shit, but
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: I'm not knowing why I'm creating.
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: I'm not going out to clubs, I'm not going to dinners.
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: I'm not doing your typical shit because I'm thinking that
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: you like you have to be a machine. I ain't
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: enjoyed none of that bro until like my fourth year,
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: So that rule was not only for me, It's for
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: everybody my next you know what I'm saying, Like.
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: You're like before the view, could you're explain that real
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: for I'm saying.
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying some of our lazier followers
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: who didn't pay attention to that rule.
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: The rule is that you get thirty percent of the cup,
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: meaning that you get an extra thirty to forty million
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: if you hit the bench marks that's in your rookie
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: year contract.
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: So All Star.
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: Team, any award, going to the All Star Game, both
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: benchmarks will give you thirty percent more than a cup.
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: And yeah, at that time, I know what I was doing,
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: but I'm very grateful and very very thankful that like
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: the league allowed me to do that.
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: In facts, Jason tay them all them boys first, they
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: thank you.
• 22:42
  Speaker 6: For showing mellow by everybody.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: Yes, I see, I see Jason. Jason Tatum told me
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: that straight up fuck with d Rostar. You remember he
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: remembery talking him like, Bro, he want to artograph, he
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: wanted he.
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: Want a jerk. Bro. He was real like, brod bro
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: is the greatest.
• 22:57
  Speaker 5: Bro.
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: I was like, not to jump so far. We still
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: got to talk about the rest of his high school
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: and stuff. But like when people will see him when
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: he was on the team together, Bro, I used to
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: tell him, like, Bro, you have a colt following. This
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: ship is crazy like and he would come out and
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: he's so humble and chill and I just joke all day.
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: I played. I play too much. I'll be like yo,
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: like y'all want my autograph and ship? They just be like, who.
• 23:27
  Speaker 6: Like this ship work?
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: So for the first time before we get back to
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: the hoop and stuff, but the first time I knew, like,
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: all right, I'm messing with a different type of like status.
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: Everybody asked you to go out in Miami. Uh, we
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: went out. You was in Minnesota. I begged you, we
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: out begged you to go out.
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: I'm come he was on it. You had you.
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: You know how you step on the back of your
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: shoes and ship, so you was standing on the back
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: of your shoes.
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: You're like, man, nah, I can't go. Bro.
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: I'm like, no, man, come on and please please, then
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: come on. It's gona be cool in the white goat.
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: We gonna we're gonna cover you up everything. Like I
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: ain't even that, bro, I'm just telling you I don't
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: really like going out. Finally you got tired of you like,
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: all right, I'm gonna go.
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: We walk in there.
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: We walking the club, were walking in the beginning part
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: and somebody said.
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: Derek de Rose.
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: I said ship, I swear God, like two hundred people came.
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: I said, oh Ship. I looked at Wig. I said ship.
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: We don't get this guy little hold up. Were getting the.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: Club, and the dude was like, damn, we just gonna
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: put y'all back here. They just started standing outside the section.
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: He looked at me.
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: He was like, I'm gonna go. We's in that mother
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: fucker ten minutes. I'm just gonna go.
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: Fuck.
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: So imagine that Brian won't nothing like it's let my fuck,
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: it's weird even doing like doing this, so like putting
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: myself in like weird quagmire situations. You feel what I'm saying. Formally,
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: I typically wouldn't I wouldn't pod or nothing like that,
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: but I fuck with y'all ship, and in order to grow,
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: you gotta put yourself in those uncomfortable situations, so like
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: coming here or even talking like, y'all don't know how
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: much this means to me.
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: I love you come in and express this ship and
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: express like, uh, just how I feel where I'm at
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: at this time.
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: So I appreciate your niggas, now have you here, but
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: I to have.
• 25:15
  Speaker 6: You here I always use anytime somebody playing the patients
• 25:19
  Speaker 6: and listen off the radar and I'll be hitting niggas
• 25:23
  Speaker 6: with the ruby Rose, the Rose, the roues, whoever it for.
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: So I got a rose JT.
• 25:36
  Speaker 6: If you want to autograph, I got.
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: What the illness, But listen, Like I said, we got
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: so much to talk about, but I want to bring
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: it back to your days. It's teammates, man, Yeah, obviously
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: I playing to get each other growing up.
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: How was it that the first time I look up Minisoda, Man,
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: I love Bro.
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: I mean, let me let me talk, because Bro, everybody
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: that probably met up no bull and ship, they just
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: know that he a good dude, and his energy that
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: he brings to the locker room is uh. You can't
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: compare it to nobody brother like he Uh, the vibration
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: he brings. He's always talking ship, even though it made
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: rub people different that didn't grow up that way, niggas
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: that grew up that way that you need that in
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: the locker room. You need motherfucker's joking playing. But when
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: it's time to go, he was always ready and I
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: knew you can who do too though, So uh just
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: having them around, having uh uh TIBs, fuck with him
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: having uh cat he used to fuck with cats so much,
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: but saying motherfuckers needed to hear. You were saying truthful ship.
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, and when motherfuckers were scared
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: to say it. I'm new to the team, so I'm
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: just trying to get the vibe on the team. You
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: saying exactly what motherfuckers needed to hear, and people respected that.
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: So it was always love.
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: Just having Jeff around It surprised me too, when like
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: you start coming over to the crib because you know,
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: niggas normally don't hang out with each other, Like, yeah,
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: it's like on some fake ship. So like having you
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: start coming over. Then you came over the night that
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: I don't believe in coincidences either. You came over the
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: night that I had fifty in my brother's knows that
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: my brother was in the kitchen and drinking and ship.
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: No, I mean, I don't know if you'll want to
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: talk about that right now. Gotta yeah, I wasn't what
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: it's crazy all that ship? Why yo, that would be no.
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: But I'll mean that's a little layer of the story
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: because you still got so many years Becuz he he
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: gave me a chance. I played against him, and I
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: kind of I'm musa speak on the Minnesota moment, but
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: I want to talk about the Bulls moment when we
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: played him in the pay of.
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: The playoffs and he spared me.
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: So before we get to the fifty, I'm gonna tell
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: you when he could have had fifty at night another time.
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: Oh, you talking in the.
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: Playoffs Mother's Day and him first, I remember, forget Bro,
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: we having the first quarter, were going back and forth
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: it's a duel, and I'm like, in my head, I'm
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: out here dueling with the MVP. What the fucking But
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: I'm talking shit. It's the first game in Atlanta. So
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, motherfucker life. And he like he ain't
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: saying nothing. He just like like looking at me, like
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: I'm guarding he go by. He dunk one time. I said,
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: oh shit, crowd go. I'm like, damn, Atlenta yah, y'all
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: the trip for me, Like what the fuck? Going back
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: and forth. Second quarter we had like thirteen fourteen second quarter.
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: I think I scored two points. He scored like another nine.
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: I'm like, damn, go to the locker room. I'm like, Jamal,
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: you can switch off on him. I was like, hell no,
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: you keep going. You're doing good. Man, Like you guarding them.
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: I'm like, I forgot that. At thirty.
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: They're like, don't worry about it, keep going, playing good.
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: Get to the third quarter. I'm looking like, man, I
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: ain't scoring no more. This motherfuck is still going. It's
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: starting to blow us out. He gets what you had,
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: like forty four yeah, forty four yeah. So it's like
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: what it was like five six minutes left in the
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: fourth Mall said the same. I let you got that
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: nigga looked at I never forget. I'm like I had
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: like twenty one. I'm like looking at him. I'm still
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: trying to guard him hard. And you know how a
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: nigga kind of like relax, like not tell you relax,
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: but kind of like it's over.
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: Bro. The nigga kind of like come getting me tips.
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: I said, fuck him. I look at the score, but
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: I said he ain't want to get fitty. I said
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: game four no, fuck that.
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: I was so mad. I said he spared me.
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: I was like I went to the locker room and
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: Smooth was like, man, you know, it's just one game.
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: Dog.
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: I was like, nah ma Hedmnar had fifty. He's like,
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: nigge think you can stop him, even play shit like
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: only pas and Nigga got hurt, Like you did good, nigga.
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: Shut up. You're right, JA woke tough ast series it was,
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: But you spared me? Why you spare me? I didn't
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: spare you, bro.
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: You know at that time, I wasn't even thinking about
• 30:25
  Speaker 4: I don't be thinking about scoring like that. I'd be
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: really in the game, bro, like every because my mindset
• 30:31
  Speaker 4: was if I didn't score like we was gonna fall back.
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: So I wasn't even keeping up with the numbers like that.
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: When I was playing, I just knew I had to
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: affect the game in a positive way.
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: This when I really was like, fuck you, you hit a floater, right,
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: I could tested this ship out, this monfucker. I was
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: playing hard as hell. Y'all, don't play defense. I'm playing
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: hard as hell. I'm like, he can't embarrass me. He
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: hit a floater, threw it up and caught that bit.
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: I said, hold on, he caught it.
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: After that, Louis I said, I said, he's playing around
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: funny Joe.
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: He getting ready for Miami. Okay, cool? Cool.
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: I was hot like I was thirty a hot. My
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: brother like, bro, you're getting your chance. It's all good.
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: You ain't playing bad. I'm like, bro, he embarrassing me.
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: Bro Like, like, Bro, he embarrassed everybody the MTP. Then
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: I thought about it. I was like, you're right, I'm good.
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: I'm just try to score now. But I remember that
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: your career too, though.
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: Bro.
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, having against him, bro, like, just to even have
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: some good moments against him at that time, they helped
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: my career. But I took that to say I seen
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: you could have got fifty. Then I seen you get fifty.
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: So that's where I was going with.
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: I'm like, damn, I seen where he could have had fifty.
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: I was a part of that.
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: And then to be a part of that moment to
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: see you actually get fifty and for you to say, yeah,
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: I'm going forward tonight, I'll never forget. You said you
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: playing to night. I was like, nah, I I ain't
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: fucking with it. He said, oh, I'm going forward. I said,
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: what you going for? I started.
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: I was like, what you're going for?
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: He's like, nah, I'm going for it. I was like,
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: what I'm getting it? I'm getting fifty.
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: It's crazy. Damn. I went to Josh Cochi getting fifty
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: tonight take.
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: Jumbo and nobody's playing, and I was like, damn, he
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: gonna get fifty. And you know Rudy Gobert, nim defensive
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: player of the Year, all that ship. I'm like, we're
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: gonna have to kill these niggas man that first quarter.
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: Now you I hurt my ankle. I'm jumping up and down.
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: Ran. I never forget.
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: Ryan was like, you could play, worry about that ship,
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: learn about this ship and he just started going crazy
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: in the whole game, like we just watching and I'm
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: just like this dude is amazing. And it was like,
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: you know me playing before you got hurt and stuff.
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: I'm like this, this is him, like he always got
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: this and see him going crazy. Then you hit Rudy
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: with the move, finished the lay. Then they started getting emotional,
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: like the nigga, everybody on the team just like, damn, bro,
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: he worked so hard. I'm like that, we're about doing
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: the game. Then he got emotional, and then I look
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: at the nigga because I know, I'm like, I fuck
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: with the cigare ear day.
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: I'm like, no, this means some ship, Like I start.
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: Fuck man, I'm a nigga, bro, I don't. I'm from
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: the west side of that. Bro. I ain't about to
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: be crying for no nigga scoring no points. They want
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: fucking to hit me out the fuck.
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: Work by did the game go over, I'm like, ship,
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: I'm about to be a party in locker room. Fuck this,
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna turn this mother fuck up. He do the interview.
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: I didn't even hear it, but I remember he was emotional.
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: I remember seeing it on TV. Went on back there
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: I'm like, give me my phone. I remember I record
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: that shit he walked in, they throw the water on it.
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: Then I send it to your girl. Like it's gotta
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: be a moment, y'all. Never forget like I was. That
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: ship was hard.
• 33:53
  Speaker 6: I was like, why that game though, Po, Why that game?
• 33:56
  Speaker 6: What made you?
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean? I don't know.
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: It was just I just felt something right when he
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: told me he wasn't playing. I seen Jimmy one't playing.
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: I'm like, all right, that's what. It's just the opportunity,
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: and every every nigga in the league that's not playing
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: wish they could have that opportunity. In fact, everybody, bro, shit,
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: you look at niggas that's not that in the league.
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: You look at it right now. Just give me that
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: one chance. I could go out there and I could
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: at least shoot fifteen to twenty field goals and see
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: what's gonna happen. Yeah, and once I get rolling, you
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: really gonna see what's what's gonna happen, you know what
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: I'm saying. I just felt like that moment was like
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: just my moment, especially going through everything that like I
• 34:39
  Speaker 4: went through, went through the little shit, I was still
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: going through like injuries and yeah, like I said, Bro,
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: I'm just living in it. Bro, Like the ship that
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: be going on, I can't really explain because I'm in it.
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: But all I could do is like prep myself for
• 34:54
  Speaker 4: the moments. Like when I was in basketball, I was
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: prepping myself for that moment. Now that I'm switching over
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: to this, like my.
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: Sh'S gonna be like y'all ship one day, six seven
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: cameras and.
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: Bro, you know, oh yeah, you gonna do a part.
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: Not the part I'm trying to get into directing, bro,
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: oh yeah, better, but directing telling like real stories.
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: That's book.
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: But I mean y'all, like everything that y'all saw though
• 35:19
  Speaker 4: the commercial or the video that's me Maddie and that's random.
• 35:25
  Speaker 4: All of us came together, got that ship together along
• 35:27
  Speaker 4: with Carlisle and Mark, along with the other guys that
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: was a part of the team. Like but we created
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: that that moment, so you know, prepping ourselves for something
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: huge for sure.
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: You know we're there to support. Shouts to the team
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: as well.
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: Can I say one thing before we get back to
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: the because this is my nigga, I'm just high. I
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: ain't gonna lie, but I'll never forget this. When I
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: was like this nigga different, like y'all know me, I'm
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: they know me. No, it's all good.
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: It's good. They know I'm wild, y'all know me.
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: I became a man in Atlanta, so my perspective was
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: a little different.
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: Like shit, I was going out, my team was going out. Everything.
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: So when I came to Indiana, did I get the Minnesota?
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: My mind still like, man, all right, we had a
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: good practice, we had some game, we hoped, but like
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: where were gone?
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: You know?
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: So I remember one night John Lucas called me. I'm like,
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: I'm thinking. Luke called me, like, yo, where we at?
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: He called me like, man, you should come in the gym.
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: I'm like, nigga, no, right, you talking about going on gym?
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: Man. I was like, bro, I'm here for all that.
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: He like, man, you tripping, bro, come in here.
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: I come in there, and he like, he like text
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: me like he rows in here, and I come in.
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: I remember with your whole family, you had your daughter
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: in the stroller. Your girl was sitting on there on
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: the stroller. You were shooting and you had shot damn
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: there five hundred shots. And I remember because you had
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: to end up hurting your elbow.
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So I'm like, how many shots this nigga?
• 36:59
  Speaker 5: Shoot?
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: Jay look like he gonna be ready? What's the fuck?
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: He gonna be ready? And I'm like, and we about
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: to play in the playoff. He's about to play in Houston.
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: This is when you first came to the team, like,
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: hes gonna be ready, don't trip, he gonna be ready.
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: I'm like, well, Ship, he shooting fire and shot I funk,
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: gonna shoot fifty from the thirties.
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: Getting them up. So I'm laughing, and Ship I'm colder.
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: I'm joking and Ship and were getting the playoffs and
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm going to Tips, like, man, this nigga
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: gotta play like he was having me getting the game
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: he killed. I'm like, no, no, he gotta come on, man,
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: he gotta get in the game. Earlier, TIBs like, no, fuck,
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: who do we take out? I'm like, I don't give
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: a fuck, take him take him out?
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: He like, how do I tell him? Like, nigga, Tips
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: is shoot, He's like everybody in all.
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: Then that nigga just starts saying fuck it, come on,
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: I swear, come on. Yeah, I watched this nigga buildings. Bro,
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: he was that's fire and the next year with you
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: shot forty from three forty.
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: But you assistant with that too.
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: Though, right when I got to the team, you probably
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: remember you, Hey, that's you for that bread.
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: I have money. You don't understand it though.
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: When you like I, the league ain't nothing but specialists
• 38:12
  Speaker 4: right in facts. So when you are aren't labeled with
• 38:16
  Speaker 4: shoot like that, that shit can last for like a
• 38:18
  Speaker 4: long time until you beat that ship.
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: You got to you gotta beat that, you know what
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: I'm saying. Allegation, Come on, man.
• 38:24
  Speaker 4: So for motherfuckers that know how to shoot, niggas from Indiana,
• 38:28
  Speaker 4: they know how to shoot when they one years old
• 38:30
  Speaker 4: teaching they.
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: Formed, They and their crib elbow all that. All y'all
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: shots the same.
• 38:37
  Speaker 4: I have not one person growing up to tell me
• 38:39
  Speaker 4: my shot, like how to fix my mechanics or show
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: me mechanics for my jump shot. I figured this shit
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: out solely by myself. No basketball camps couldn't afford it,
• 38:50
  Speaker 4: none of that. It's solely me being in the park
• 38:52
  Speaker 4: by myself testing out ship and all that stick or
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: you know, after experimenting and that shit stuck. But so
• 39:00
  Speaker 4: to like go to a team and to be cool
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: with a motherfucker, to be in a shooting game with
• 39:06
  Speaker 4: him and don't take it personal if they beat you.
• 39:10
  Speaker 4: I'm not crazy because I want to take it. Like
• 39:12
  Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, But it takes uh to
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: go one on one or to the challenge of motherfucking
• 39:17
  Speaker 4: one and to push yourself in practice when you ain't
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: know nothing about it.
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: I'm shooting with you. You don't know damn feelings. All yeah,
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: you get what I'm saying. Walking around shooting, playing talking
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: to people. I'm trying to make every mother.
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna teach your show your I want to show
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: your ass. I'm in forty this. I'm probab to stop
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: shooting because I was like this nigga started to beat me.
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: Man quit But I'm just like, he adn't take he
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: was taking a light because he's playing. He always playing,
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: all right, But if Tims ain't on that, he ain't
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: on that.
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: That story of my life.
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: I just want to God br so like to to
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: actually challenge a motherfucker that's a shooter. I took pride
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: it up even though you didn't know about this, but
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: now I've seen it. Then when the next year. I'll
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: never forget. I started, like we started starting together at
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: the beginning of the year, and I'm like, I'm going
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: on fast work. I'm starting the ball to him in
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: the corner and he fired, and I'm like this Nigga
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: really a shooter. Like he running the lane, min You
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: like Nigga the MVP. He great with the ball, like
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: I should be running the lane.
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: Nigga.
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: He like, get it, get it, get it, taking off
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: to the corner and firing threes, and I'm laughing. I'm
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: like this nigga shooter, Like what is Nigga spotting up forty?
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: Shooting forty from the three? And I'll never forget. I
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: was like, Nigga shooting forty. He was like, you know,
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: he a student of the game, Like Nigga gotta be
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: a shoot to three man.
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: They paying niggas shoot the three, and I.
• 40:49
  Speaker 6: Remember shoot was sweet.
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: He was like I remember everything. Bro.
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: He was like, I'm a I'm aa shoot forty. He
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: was like, I'm going to get that bag, bro. Then
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: I'm done, sir. And I was like, nah, you're gonna leave.
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: I'm in my head like he about to leave. Minnesotau
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: ain't the way, he's starting over me.
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: At the time, niggas was telling.
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: Me in the crowd get him off the I'm like, damn,
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: that's my nigga.
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: I gotta help me. He got so bad, my nigga.
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: I started telling niggas like, do you want to start
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: because it's easier, nigga, you gonna go off the bench, bro.
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: But I give him credit, Nigga, I'll never forget. He
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: told me like, and then we got to get back
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: to where it started. But then he told me, he
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: was like, teem, you gotta find your niche cause nigga,
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: you know, we ain't gonna be starters the whole time,
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: Like coming off the bench, they gonna pay, they need
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: somebody to kill off the bench. They gonna find a
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: new row. And now I never he did not want to start.
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: I remember with the team. I said, Tims, I am
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: sick of hearing these When you start him, he was like,
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: who am gonna start him over?
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: I'm like, nigga me.
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: He was like, you're getting paid. I'm like, I don't
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: give a fuck. I think I'll play better off the bench.
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: He was like no, no, and I was starting together
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: and he was like, I could do that. Who we
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: take out and we start trying to figure it out whatever.
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: But I just remember when you said that. So when
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: you left, I went to Ryan, I said I wanna
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: come off the bench because I was like, I'm about
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: to do exactly what he did. I was like, I
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: want to come off the bench because you told me, like, Bro,
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: we ain't gonna be starters for the rest of our career. Bro,
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: you gotta figure it out and we about to fill
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: these new roles. I was like, I'm about to take
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: his role. And I started doing everything he did. I
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: started stretching. I ain't do none of that ship, phone,
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: roller ball, and ship. I'm like that nigga, he figured
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: it out. Fuck that I'm doing that. Ship did quite
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: work out, but.
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: It was too late. Was broke down.
• 42:56
  Speaker 4: I was as I had your knee and that was it.
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well I had ankles.
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: I had certainly on my ankle, Yeah, but then I
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: had my patella was gone.
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: I ain't got I'm bone on bone now it's over with.
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: It's over, and ad ain't worth a quarters. It was
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: gone last year.
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: It was it was gone my last year in Minnesota.
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: So I was bone on bone.
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: But I was just playing and then the last piece
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: of piece of my Pateller tour. And when I was
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: in Milwaukee, Uh.
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: It was over with that bone on bone.
• 43:33
  Speaker 4: That's something. It was over once you go there for sure.
• 43:37
  Speaker 4: Just doing that as well.
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: Huh yeah, how are you doing that? How are you
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: doing that?
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: He's different, Bro, Shout out to him. Shout out to him. Man, listen,
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: you have so many crazy accomplishments. Man, we got to
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: speak on something.
• 43:47
  Speaker 4: Man.
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: Obviously we got to start one of the crazy ones.
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: MVP, youngest MVP ever having one the craziest season the
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: NBA in the conference where Lebron James was like, how
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: was that season for you? Because obviously you know what
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: I'm saying. You came in the league going crazy. How
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: how crazy was that particular season for you?
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: Bro?
• 44:04
  Speaker 4: It was a blur. It was a blur. I remember
• 44:07
  Speaker 4: at that time. My whole mindset was like keep it moving.
• 44:11
  Speaker 4: So you know, in hindsight, you always wish that you
• 44:14
  Speaker 4: would cherished some.
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: Of the days a little bit more. But like me
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: looking in the past and shit, but.
• 44:21
  Speaker 4: What I was telling y'all at that time, I didn't
• 44:23
  Speaker 4: enjoy anything, Bro. I didn't go out to eat with
• 44:26
  Speaker 4: my family or friends like that, No movies like that,
• 44:29
  Speaker 4: none of that, bro, no concerts because I was totally
• 44:33
  Speaker 4: locked in too thinking that I had to follow like
• 44:38
  Speaker 4: Kobe was doing, thinking cold as, not enjoying itself, not
• 44:43
  Speaker 4: going on vacas, not doing any of that. So I
• 44:45
  Speaker 4: felt tricked, like in a way whenever at the time
• 44:49
  Speaker 4: I felt that way, Like my fourth year I ended
• 44:51
  Speaker 4: up going to the Philippines. When I saw him like relaxed,
• 44:54
  Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, you motherfucker was tricking me this hole time.
• 44:57
  Speaker 4: I dedicated three three years of thinking you didn't do ship, bro,
• 45:03
  Speaker 4: and to see you actually out here just chilling like
• 45:07
  Speaker 4: it kind of fucked me up. But like I couldn't
• 45:10
  Speaker 4: take it personally because even though I was like admiring
• 45:13
  Speaker 4: them like that, so uh, that year it was just fun, man,
• 45:18
  Speaker 4: something that you can't explain, like my being in shy
• 45:25
  Speaker 4: at the going number one and being the point guard
• 45:29
  Speaker 4: of the team. Like you got the rocking your hand
• 45:32
  Speaker 4: and you got your guys like my guys being around
• 45:35
  Speaker 4: to sixth grade on the baseline.
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah talking or you know what I'm saying.
• 45:39
  Speaker 4: So the whole time, like that's something that yeah, but
• 45:44
  Speaker 4: we did it right though. Men in fact, we made
• 45:46
  Speaker 4: sure that the ups and downs that we had in Chicago,
• 45:50
  Speaker 4: no matter what it was, we could go back there
• 45:52
  Speaker 4: and still like do business or whatever it is with them.
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: So it was a blast over for sure.
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: Man, both of you said just being you know what
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: I'm saying, point guard, the man in your city, playing
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: for your hometown, Like, what's that feeling like, Like we
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: talked about it, but what's that feeling growing up in Chicago?
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: Like all right, I saw MJ hitters. Now they look
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: at me like that. It's pressure. That's why it's a
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: lot of pressure. I can imagine.
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: A lot.
• 46:18
  Speaker 4: I got to talk for Chicago because a lot of
• 46:19
  Speaker 4: people when they talk about Chicago, they always mentioned like
• 46:22
  Speaker 4: the badt shit, So I got to mix it up.
• 46:27
  Speaker 4: MJ wouldn't be MJ if he was if he played
• 46:32
  Speaker 4: anywhere else but Chicago for his pro career, he would
• 46:36
  Speaker 4: have been a great player anywhere else, but in Chicago.
• 46:42
  Speaker 4: He became the black Cat. He became MJ in Chicago
• 46:47
  Speaker 4: just off the strength of the culture that's in Chicago,
• 46:50
  Speaker 4: and it's coaches everywhere, like with the basketball coach is
• 46:53
  Speaker 4: just strong, and that the expectation of like what you're
• 47:02
  Speaker 4: gonna do. We've seen you. We see niggas like you
• 47:04
  Speaker 4: back in the sixties. Are you supposed to have been
• 47:07
  Speaker 4: like elevated the game or doing something? They're like, what's next?
• 47:10
  Speaker 4: MJ one them three? I guarantee you.
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: He had people in this corner like, there's no way
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: they're gonna let you win. You just went on vac. Niggas,
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: you ain't gonna let you come back and win three more.
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: I bet you can't. That's what niggas in shot telling them,
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: I bet you can't. They talk to the wrong one.
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: I bet you he what one? I bet you can't
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: win another one. But tell you, guys, look, I'm gigging
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: them up.
• 47:35
  Speaker 4: That's yeah, yeah, gigging them up, just off the strength.
• 47:42
  Speaker 4: But that's what I meant by the culture though, like
• 47:46
  Speaker 4: being there, that's what I felt. Even though people my
• 47:49
  Speaker 4: guys never came up to me and was like, man,
• 47:51
  Speaker 4: you gotta kill this motherfucker this game. I felt it.
• 47:53
  Speaker 4: Though they ain't have to say nothing. They'll say little ship.
• 47:56
  Speaker 4: They all be in the kitchen or something. Man, what
• 47:59
  Speaker 4: try I heard what cropped throwing the party to night,
• 48:03
  Speaker 4: not saying it to me, but they just talking but
• 48:05
  Speaker 4: making sure that I hear like what going on me?
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: I was that nigga I'm going out to kill from.
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: I'm listening to.
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: Even though they ain't bringing it to me, they they
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: staying it so that I just could hear it.
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: I'm like, all right, so is this nigga fuck r
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: forty of me?
• 48:32
  Speaker 6: But everybody always speaking on like you being the hardest
• 48:34
  Speaker 6: person that they had to go out like who is
• 48:36
  Speaker 6: you O?
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: Person like that? You was like, damn, what's crazy killing?
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: But I got to sleep for him.
• 48:43
  Speaker 4: I had a problem down damn there with everybody bro,
• 48:45
  Speaker 4: especially in TIB's system defensive system, where like at that
• 48:50
  Speaker 4: time we icing everything. He if one person go over
• 48:54
  Speaker 4: the top basketball terms, he beat you and over the
• 48:59
  Speaker 4: top of the pick and roll like he now you're
• 49:01
  Speaker 4: chasing them like behind them and shit if that happened,
• 49:04
  Speaker 4: he like it was just hard. But I'm a pure
• 49:08
  Speaker 4: point so I hate point guards that feel like they
• 49:11
  Speaker 4: are about to control the whole game. So scoring, if
• 49:14
  Speaker 4: you scoring, I don't care about scoring like that, even
• 49:16
  Speaker 4: though like the NBA forced me into scoring. I never
• 49:19
  Speaker 4: was the leading score on any of my elementary time,
• 49:23
  Speaker 4: probably was the leading scorer, but high school somebody else
• 49:26
  Speaker 4: was college CD I was, so I never was the
• 49:29
  Speaker 4: leading score I just found my spots and I found
• 49:32
  Speaker 4: the way to make it look good.
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: But I'm a pure.
• 49:37
  Speaker 4: Point at hard So I hate point guards that don't
• 49:40
  Speaker 4: care about scoring like a rondough like this nigga, like
• 49:43
  Speaker 4: they could fall into just the system of just playing
• 49:46
  Speaker 4: the right way. Like no, I'm in the least try
• 49:50
  Speaker 4: to get in your head. People don't. Yeah, scoring ain't
• 49:53
  Speaker 4: really that much to me because I winning the game
• 49:57
  Speaker 4: is more than me. I heard one of my O g's,
• 50:01
  Speaker 4: Kurt Heinrich, say like after somebody gave him like forty
• 50:05
  Speaker 4: or fifty, he's saying this ship out like out loud,
• 50:07
  Speaker 4: but I'm just hearing them. Were walking in the hallway
• 50:10
  Speaker 4: we won, and he was like, ha, that motherfucker just
• 50:14
  Speaker 4: scored fifty points for no reason. Yeah, that ship hit home. Well,
• 50:19
  Speaker 4: Like that's why after I scored that fifty, I was
• 50:22
  Speaker 4: so happy that one nigga like you got the win, bro,
• 50:26
  Speaker 4: like fifty or sick of whatever it is if you
• 50:28
  Speaker 4: ain't getting that. Dup At the end, raced up the fact.
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: That wasn't jed in high school, I mean college. In college,
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: I was I get some cool dro that fucking Jenny
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: like for.
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: By the league though he adjusted community from but everybody
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: liked that in the high school college you getting to it.
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: That's how you got to the league. That's what these
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: young kids.
• 51:01
  Speaker 4: They don't be looking at these players or thinking like, oh,
• 51:04
  Speaker 4: you were bum because you on the bench.
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: Bro, did you see this player? He was in high
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: school of college. That's how he got seen. Bro, you
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: know what I'm saying.
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: For sure, man, you brought one of my favorite college
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: players of all time. My boy cdyall, y'all was going gray,
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: I have to see y'all man. Yeah, no, that's the fact.
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: See the what we got, and I gotta tell this
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: short story CD. So he tried to hold me right.
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: So it's me, him and Tone in the gym. We're
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: there for summer uh, summer school. We shouldn't have course
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: shots for hundred one hundred dollars a shot though at
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: the time we both flig and we don't got it
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: like that. So every shot, really, you know, that's a
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: shot in college. So uh, he hit a shot and
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: I shot right behind him, and he said that my
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: foot was on the line, and he tried to stand
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: on me like you know his voice.
• 51:59
  Speaker 4: You know yeah, And I'm like I am bag. I'm like, no, nigga, no,
• 52:04
  Speaker 4: you got no one no matter of fact. He shot
• 52:07
  Speaker 4: the shot and his foot was on the line and
• 52:08
  Speaker 4: I made him shoot over and he was surprised that
• 52:11
  Speaker 4: I said something, and he sucked with me for saying something.
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: Like damn, you don't let me hold you. And I'm like, no, nigga,
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: I ain't going for.
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: Check.
• 52:19
  Speaker 4: I gotta tell another story. So this when I really
• 52:22
  Speaker 4: knew that I made the right decision. So once again,
• 52:26
  Speaker 4: summer school were there. Joey Dorsey ended up going to
• 52:31
  Speaker 4: against the boot concert video sheet.
• 52:34
  Speaker 6: Shout on sure he was in the.
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: Right to the legend, man, all right to the legend.
• 52:54
  Speaker 4: He missed the run, right, he missed the whole run.
• 52:58
  Speaker 4: I'm thinking nothing of it. I get to uh the house.
• 53:02
  Speaker 4: Joy come to the crib. He thinking everything cool, Cee.
• 53:05
  Speaker 4: I ain't talking to him at all. He started cursing
• 53:09
  Speaker 4: Joey out so bad, bro, like, man, you let them
• 53:13
  Speaker 4: mother fucking team down. That's some whole ass talking to
• 53:15
  Speaker 4: him crazy. And you know, Joy big, I'm thinking that
• 53:18
  Speaker 4: they're about to fight because it's my first own nor
• 53:20
  Speaker 4: I'm like, yeah, I just got here, joy respected it
• 53:25
  Speaker 4: started crying.
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: Bro, I said, I made the right choice. Yeah, these
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: niggas care about winning.
• 53:31
  Speaker 4: Bro, Like you mad at the nigga for there's some
• 53:34
  Speaker 4: summer ship, you know what I'm saying. But and there
• 53:36
  Speaker 4: was some ship that we were running, not col we
• 53:39
  Speaker 4: we set that ship up or he set it up
• 53:41
  Speaker 4: and the nigga didn't show up. And once I've seen that,
• 53:43
  Speaker 4: I'm like, this is gonna be a good ass year. Yeah,
• 53:46
  Speaker 4: older niggas, that's on the same page.
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, the hell of a run, the hell
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: of a year. Bro.
• 53:52
  Speaker 6: Like, do you remember anything from that game? That Championship game?
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: Shot? Shot real? That was a tough shot.
• 54:03
  Speaker 4: The only thing I yeah, the fireworks, bro, After you
• 54:07
  Speaker 4: leave the court, the shit be burning you, bro, or
• 54:10
  Speaker 4: while as you walking off, I wanted to fight somebody.
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: That's the only thing I remember walking as a loser.
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: The fireworks you see on TV that shit come down.
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: A lot of people be getting burned in that ship.
• 54:22
  Speaker 4: I didn't know that the ship was burning me, and
• 54:24
  Speaker 4: that ship was making me so mad as I walked
• 54:26
  Speaker 4: off the court, knowing that I blew the game. That
• 54:29
  Speaker 4: was the only thing I remember for real, because after
• 54:31
  Speaker 4: that it was straight lead.
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, what was like when you was like, you know,
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: I seen a video documentary you on, you know, Chicago
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: getting the first pick or Miami or whatever. What was
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: it like that feeling when you've seen Chicago got that
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: first pick?
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: Like damn.
• 54:49
  Speaker 4: So yeah, we were in LA at the time, and
• 54:52
  Speaker 4: right when I seen that, they were like one of
• 54:55
  Speaker 4: the last ones. I kind of knew then, like what
• 54:58
  Speaker 4: it was, even though people didn't in the room didn't
• 55:01
  Speaker 4: say it. I'm like, damn, Chicago seven percent chance. I'm like,
• 55:04
  Speaker 4: we gonna end up winning that shit, And yeah, that's
• 55:07
  Speaker 4: going back to the crib, Like, yeah, everybody got the
• 55:11
  Speaker 4: experience that one time, at least one time. Yeah, Like,
• 55:14
  Speaker 4: don't you know how everybody was saying you should play
• 55:15
  Speaker 4: New York at least one time as a as a
• 55:17
  Speaker 4: hooper just to feel an atmosphere. I feel the same
• 55:20
  Speaker 4: way about people playing at home. If you could, you
• 55:24
  Speaker 4: might as well, like at least get that experience. You know,
• 55:28
  Speaker 4: I leaned on you.
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: You don't even know, but I left Indiana to come
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: to Minnesota, right, So when you came on the team,
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: I'm like, damn, because I hate no shade to Minnesota.
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: I love Minnesota cool, but I hated leaving the crib,
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like, damn, it was everything
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: I wanted.
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: I'm at the.
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: Crib, my homeboys, everybody be at the game after I
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: lead the game, even my family all that. So when
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: I came, when you came to Minnesota, it was like,
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: it's somebody I'm about to lean on because he experienced
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: what I experienced, like he had to lead a crib before.
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: So like that's why I started, Like you probably ain't know,
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: I started gravitating Tod you like, bro, you won't shoot
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: you want to do that?
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: And you like cause I just want to.
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: Get like, damn, how did that nigga get like through
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: leaving Chicago? Like you was every Like I was nowhere
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: near what you was Indiana, but you are the Chicago
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: Like I was good, but I played one year, he
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: was their MVP, high expectations, showed it up. I'm like, man,
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: how he get through leaving the crib? So I just
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: wanted to like, I'm like, man, how he worked? What
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: is mental like? And then I start seeing you read
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: books and ship and it's everything that I never even thought,
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: like I'm thinking you like like not like me, but
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: I knew you was like, damn you from the Midwest.
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: He probably joking clown and clowning and you joking clown.
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: You were super like dedicated to ship. And I was
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: just like, all right, let me not fuck up his
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: dedication because I'm type of that, hey, bro, you try
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: to get some bullshit. And he was just like and
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: he kind of like made me start like appreciating the
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: craft again because I was kind of like, damn, I
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: got paid, I'm cool, my family straight.
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: But then I seen you.
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: I'm like, and he's super cool, Like he got paid,
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: he don't even gotta be doing this really, but he
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: appreciating the craft, and it made me like start like,
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: hold on, let me stop playing. Let me like remember
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: why I love hooping.
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: Bro.
• 57:20
  Speaker 4: Going into the league though, nah, nigga, I was like
• 57:23
  Speaker 4: everybody else this ship. It takes time, Bro, takes growth,
• 57:27
  Speaker 4: Bro to get I went through what I went through.
• 57:30
  Speaker 4: I tried leaving two times, Like so you get to
• 57:34
  Speaker 4: a point where like I could keep doing the same
• 57:36
  Speaker 4: shit or I could change. So after I went through
• 57:40
  Speaker 4: my case, I made a vow that for seven years
• 57:45
  Speaker 4: that I was just gonna like try to change my image,
• 57:49
  Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, by just just being me,
• 57:53
  Speaker 4: just staying out of sight, out of mind. And it
• 57:56
  Speaker 4: went from seven to now I'm on year like eleven
• 57:59
  Speaker 4: of me just like finding enjoyy bro, you know what
• 58:03
  Speaker 4: i mean, Like basketball, goat me that. But even coming here,
• 58:07
  Speaker 4: I'm always looking for something for inspiration. So like coming
• 58:10
  Speaker 4: here seeing what y'all got going on, watching from a far,
• 58:14
  Speaker 4: like huge fan of the Jeff of course, seeing how
• 58:18
  Speaker 4: he's adapting to like this new world and new business
• 58:21
  Speaker 4: venture that he's in. So the questions that I asked
• 58:24
  Speaker 4: you all in there, that's why I asked you know
• 58:27
  Speaker 4: what I'm saying, because but that's what y'all hit, you
• 58:29
  Speaker 4: know what I mean.
• 58:30
  Speaker 6: So I appreciate you, well, was it a VT that
• 58:35
  Speaker 6: when you got to the league that kind of embraced you?
• 58:37
  Speaker 4: Every almost every vet, bro, every vet, every teammate I had.
• 58:41
  Speaker 4: I appreciate it. That's how I looked at this, every
• 58:44
  Speaker 4: one of them. Because when it comes to like the
• 58:46
  Speaker 4: basketball shit, when I was in it, I'm like, even
• 58:50
  Speaker 4: though I don't want the fame, I still wanted people
• 58:52
  Speaker 4: to like appreciate, like the work that I put in
• 58:55
  Speaker 4: or like like the way that I played so ice
• 58:58
  Speaker 4: to be on teams when niggas and they tell me
• 59:01
  Speaker 4: they from Booze from Alaska. I'm thinking about market market. Yeah, market,
• 59:08
  Speaker 4: that's a market. Okay, Like damn, I never knew you
• 59:11
  Speaker 4: know what I mean, all you from overseas, then they
• 59:13
  Speaker 4: watching you too, I mean they watching me all right, bet,
• 59:16
  Speaker 4: like you know what I'm saying.
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: Ways, show love to everybody.
• 59:20
  Speaker 4: And I had great vets to gray vets b like
• 59:24
  Speaker 4: show me about health, like Luau was the first one.
• 59:28
  Speaker 4: Should I have seen eat like a peanut butter and
• 59:31
  Speaker 4: jelly sandwich at halftime? And now that's a custom in
• 59:34
  Speaker 4: the league. That's before you go on the buzz And
• 59:37
  Speaker 4: I mean like brunch, all that shit is a is
• 59:40
  Speaker 4: just there now, But before it was there, you had
• 59:43
  Speaker 4: like ogs that really you saw stretching before every game
• 59:46
  Speaker 4: like a Nazi Muhammad, like Joe Kim, how he took.
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: Care of his body.
• 59:51
  Speaker 4: Like a lot of guys were really pros bro say
• 59:55
  Speaker 4: the least sixteen seventeen years. Yeah, didn't get in the
• 59:58
  Speaker 4: game at all, but they get ready, they get activated
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 4: like they're about to play thirty.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: Minutes and to just chill.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 4: So I've seen that, and I'm like, man, whenever I
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 4: do get in that position, I'm gonna try to handle
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 4: that the same way. But only how you get there
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 4: is you got to kill your ego. And that's not
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 4: like a one time thing. That's like a continuous, fucking
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 4: everyday thing. You know what I'm saying. What motherfuckers think
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 4: it's just one time. No, that's just the first challenge.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 4: This shit just gonna keep popping up, especially if you
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 4: call your man you feel like you accomplish something, you
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 4: know what I mean.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: It's a thin balance. It's a balance. You got to
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: balance the shit out.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 4: So being aware of that, being mindful of it, Like
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 4: that's when he met me. That's what the stage that
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 4: I was in.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: When I seen you, Like, I ain't gonna lie everybody
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: know me, I'll be like I don't want no kids. Yeah,
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: but when I see you with your son, like being
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: in Minnesota and like seeing him shoot the bat eye.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: This just random shit.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: I remember because I used to be watching like that's
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: hard y'all try to shoot the ball into the rack, correct, Yeah,
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, y'all thinggas know, y'all not about to
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: hit that right, I'm like, I'm looking like they ain't
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: gonna hit that, and y'all would continuously do it. And
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: I remember one time he hit it, yes, and I
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: was like, I fucker hit that ship. I'm surprised. To y'all,
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to bed. But that's my version of
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: the crate for him. Put the crate up, bro, We're
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: gonna we're gonna make a basketball rim out of anything
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: on this motherfucker.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: Just being creative.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 4: And I want you to be able to be on
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 4: this court at this stage and feel comfortable around twenty
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 4: to ten, ten thousand people looking at you. Just be
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 4: yourself because a lot of kids I see, like a
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 4: lot of kids that get on that stage free'ze up,
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 4: scared than the motherfucker. I'm like, Noah, I don't want
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 4: my kids going to do that. Through that man, I'm
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 4: putting them in positions to make them uncomfortable, like I'm
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 4: putting myself in positions. But for them, I wish I
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 4: had a dad or yeah, something I wish I had,
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 4: So I got to present the opportunity for them.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 2: I was watching that ship.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: Man, he over there tossing that ball, So it was
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: like three days in a row. I'm like, yeah, he
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: ain't gonna, ain't gonna that. That ain't gonna like sh
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: I'm over there like that.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 2: Like that. It's dope.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 6: It's hard a lot of these days. I'm glad you
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 6: ain't trying to but a lot of these niggas trying
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 6: to live through their kids on the hoop world, especially
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 6: a lot of these as you Dad. So I was
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 6: gonna ask you, like, how do you balance that dad life?
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 6: And you know, making sure he stay on the straight
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 6: arrow on the hool store, you know, pushing itself to
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 6: his maxibility.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 4: I mean, I'm pushing, but at the same time, it's
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 4: more like discipline with him right now. But it's about
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 4: knowing your worth too, because he's in the stage and.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: A lot of a lot of little hoopers need to
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: hear this.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 4: Like, uh, knowing your worth, Like if a company come
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 4: to you for an nil deal or something like that,
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 4: and like you don't know your worth, you'll take any deal,
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 4: but you got to look at like what do you
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 4: see your brand or what you see yourself associated with?
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 4: Like he had a deal to come to him in
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 4: which I thought that he shouldn't have took. But I
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 4: can't say that to him. I asked him about it. Hey,
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 4: you think it's right. So who do you see yourself
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 4: as associated with this brand?
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: That brand?
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 4: He started thinking about it like I gotta make you think.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 4: I gotta provoke a thought, you know what I'm saying,
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 4: Like just to see where your head, that where you
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 4: think at least put it on your mind that if
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 4: you see yourself being an MVP type caliber, whoever you
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 4: associate yourself with got to be on that same level too.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 4: So like the hoop inside, I let him just play bro.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 4: I'm not on him. I make him do his push
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 4: ups and sit ups and shit like that. But it's
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 4: really just school and making sure that his mental rate.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 4: Like a lot of kids, he quiet, So a lot
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 4: of kids be like going through shit by themselves and
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 4: our kids. I want to be able to make sure
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 4: that I'm there well, not only like my kids, but
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 4: my family.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. It's interesting here you setting
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: what I'm saying with you.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: He coached your ALBA made you know what I'm saying,
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: kids that now, like you said, it's a different situation
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: now growing up in high school, being good at having
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: some type of impression they getting deals. It's like, all right,
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: that might be cool now, but you don't know what
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: you're getting yourself into.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 2: Ain't nobody getting deals with the high school nott He
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: loving shit?
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, loving, But like it's like coaching kids, like you're right,
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: it's a lot of the mental stuff, like what they
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: go through outside of basketball. You just want to make
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: sure that they're in a comfortable spoor. They in a
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: good place. But like you doing that with your kids,
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: and that's dope. I wanted to know, Like when you
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: watch them play, because I seen him hit a game
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: a game winner.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah you know you too.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: I'm like, damn, like I remember him like you said,
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: I remember shooting on the on the little rack or whatever.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: So to see him here in game winners, do you
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: see his skilled up? Like skill level going up? And
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: you like, ship, man, I'm starting to see it, do
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: you now?
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: Man?
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 4: Like I said, that's why I'm taking this step that
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 4: I'm taking down, bro, But I have to be there,
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 4: yeah for my fans, Like uh uh, it's all about
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 4: the discipline, bro, Like I don't know how many times,
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 4: like as a as a I'm talking as a dad,
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 4: not a father, because it's a difference, Like my kids
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 4: call me dad I love, and they call me dad
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 4: not father.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 2: Don't sound right, Jackson ship don't sound right to me.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 4: So like that time that I'm putting in, giving every
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 4: one of my kids that equal time, you know what
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 4: I'm saying.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 2: But with him, since he's the.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 4: Oldest, I have to be a little bit more strict
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 4: on him as far as making sure he gets up
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 4: on time for school, taking out the garbage, a little
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 4: chori shit. But it creates your character, you know what
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 4: I'm saying. Oh man, So I'm seeing like it carries
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 4: over to where if you're not disciplined in something that
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 4: you're passionate about back in basketball, how you think you're
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 4: gonna be disciplined in the other areas. You know, if
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 4: you're not disciplined about something that you love other areas
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 4: is gonna fall too that you're gonna crumble at some point,
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. In fact, so I'm like,
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 4: bro dedicate yourself to this, and I guarantee you it's
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 4: gonna pay off. But he listened though, Like that's half
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 4: the battle too, and which I love about him. I
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 4: could talk to him. He got his own individuality too.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 4: So once I see that, I don't want to tamper
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 4: with that, because I see that if I do, you're
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 4: gonna try to make You're gonna try to follow me
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 4: or follow in my footstep. You're your own person, You
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 4: are PJ ro, you are your own entity. Right, how
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 4: you feel about this? I asked him, how you feel?
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 4: Brow what you think? He'll tell me the honest truth.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 4: All this is how we're gonna think about it, just
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 4: like we were talking about with the deal. He was
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 4: mad that I was telling him that shit about the
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 4: deal because he knew that I was telling them right,
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 4: Like what Like I was asking them questions, and the
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 4: question I was the answers. He was like, not elaborating
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 4: on him, Like yeah, he said a certain company name.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 4: I don't want to say the name, say their name.
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 4: I'm like, so, how like that don't add up? Pe
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 4: see what I'm saying. He started to hear what I'm saying.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 4: He heard what I was saying, but start crying. I'm like, bro,
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 4: I'm not here to chastise you or make you feel
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 4: like you made the wrong decision. I'm just showing you
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 4: that you have worth. They're coming because you have worth.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 4: Now you decide what that worth is going to be
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 4: a lot of kids these days. They don't know what
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 4: the worth. They don't even know that they got work
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 4: along telling the motherfucker that they love them with some
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 4: of it, hitting them, patting them on the back for
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 4: letting for doing something right. So me expressing to him
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 4: where I'm at right now, telling him like man, PJ,
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 4: I'm doing this for me, my nigga, not doing this
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 4: for you no more.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 2: I'm quitting because of me. I'm tired of it.
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 4: I'm doing this solely to be around y'all, taking you
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 4: to school, I'm picking you up.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 2: I'm doing this. I'm doing that. You appreciate this ship.
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 2: You may not understanding.
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 4: Now that's my whole little saying that you ain't gonna
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 4: understand it, but later on you're gonna respect it.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 6: I say that all the time, but you ain't. Motherfucker
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 6: kids trifling.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 2: Home.
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 6: I have a line of told mothers bro, y'all keep
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 6: his room, trifle these mice and ship. O, come fuck
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 6: your roaches and ship. You got a lot to them.
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 6: You gotta kind of cash for sure, y'all said all
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 6: the bullshit.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 2: Look appearance, anything to make them listen. Bro, for sure.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 4: You gotta trick him a little bit like That's what man,
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 4: by being a dad, like sparking, like sparking that engine.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 2: Sometimes. You got a.
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 4: Lot of kids now they don't know how. They ain't
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 4: gonna know because of the the conditions and living circumstances
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 4: that you gather me in, because of what you went through.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 2: I went through this.
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 4: I'm putting you in this type of environment so that
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 4: you don't got to go back to that. If they
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 4: do go back to it, you will fail. You any
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 4: you a failure if you let them go back. Yeah,
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 4: you feel what I'm saying. So I'm creating this for
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 4: you and to see you thrive. And that's all. That's
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 4: the stage. I'm man, just bossing up Brow what it's
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 4: all about.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 2: Bron for sure. Listen, man, we are blessed, blessed, blessed. Man.
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: We appreciate you pulling up. I know how much this
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: means for you, Bro, and how much this means to us.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: Like we said, we got this opportunity. Shot to the
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: team for making this happen. Man, we were at static. Man,
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: we are really happy that you pulled up on this.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: Man means the world to us for show.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 2: Bro Bro, No, no, for sure, I gotta say something
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 2: for you leave.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: I'm so geeked, bro, Like I'm a fan, Like I
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: know we graduated seven whatever, so like when I was
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: in college, you was a rookie and you going against
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: Rondo and them in the self six in the playoffs
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: and stuff, and I'm watching, I'm like, damn, it's some
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: I know him, like I competed against him. I see
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: him to see you do that ship and then like
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: to get to know you over the years and then
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: see what kind of person as you, kind of father
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: you are, how dope you are as a person cool
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: and like for you to have all the accolades and
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: all all the.
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 2: Shit that you've got, and how humble you was. Like, Bro, you.
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: Would put me in spaces and we'd be in rooms
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: and you are like you the one, and you like
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: this nigga crazy, I'm taking over the floor. But everybody
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: want to be around you, and that shit is dope.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: You don't meet too many people who just like who
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: got the resume or the person that you are and
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: let you be you like lor you ain't had to
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: let me start, Bro, you know what I'm saying, Like you,
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying I earn. I ain't saying I earned
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: the start, bro, But we being honest.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 2: Bro. I'm just a realistic person. Bro.
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: Like you might have went through some stuff, you went
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: to New York and whatever, whatever, and then you came
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 1: to the team. But when you started hooping, nigga, you
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: was averaging sixteen off the bench.
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 2: I was averaging ten.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 4: But still at that time, I was fully aware of
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 4: where I was at.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 2: At that time, I didn't want to start. Tims used
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 2: to try to come to me. I'm like, no, I
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 2: know you didn't want to start, but I was like please, Opposite.
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: The whole reason I'm telling Tim, tell the man is
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: probably going to you like you need to start.
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 2: Like no, I'm like, tell.
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: Him, what's so crazy is in a different situation that's
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: goes differently and most of the time, and that's the
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 1: typical NBA typically got them going against each other, but
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: you're pushing each other.
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 2: And that's why I worked out.
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 6: And now the niggas just didn't want to start because
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 6: they was hurting this feelings.
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 2: It was about it was it was. It was about
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 2: that nigga. That's what I came. I was.
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: I was I was fucking zero the lit my last
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: day after we went to the Prince House. Right, we
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: went to the Prince House. Right, we had a little
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: showing that I'm gonna let you'll get out of here
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: me Wig. So if you to know Wigs to love
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 1: Wig and he's live, he's me and him very similar,
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: entire a lot of stuff.
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 2: And then doctor just put it out.
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: So I didn't say that. He said that, So then
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: the no Wig, it is the no Gorgy. So it's me,
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: Gorgy and Wig at a table.
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: We don't smile for ship. We don't do ship. We
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: mean like, people don't know this side of me. Only
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 1: the teammates know our joking ships like the fan don't know.
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 1: They think I'm mass So I don't smile about ship.
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: But Wig don't smell about ship. Gorgy he's the nicest
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 1: person in the world, but they don't know. Like he
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 1: don't smile. Man our table empty, nobody want our table.
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 2: I'm talking about man his table.
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: Nigga to Prince Jersey walking by, not one person had
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 1: a just press the way I think my mama might
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: have one. This Nigga, Prince Jersey bro had to be
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: the highest selling ship in the NBA that it had
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: to be Bro. I know, Bro, they was walking by.
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: I was like, damn, damn, not a damn Damn. I'm like,
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: wig damn. We just got a Max. I'm like, fuck, Bro,
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 1: you might want he. I gotta leave, Bro. They don't
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: fuck with me, y'all. I'm like, they don't know. It
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: was not even just so I gotta leave, like they're
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: not fucking with me no more. It was Cat and
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: then d Ro. This Jersey was more than Cats. I
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: was like, yeah, he's not gonna be back, like you
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like Cat not fucking with that.
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 2: I'm keeping it up being Bro. I'm keeping up being Bro.
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 2: I was like, y'all know, stop, Okay, I'm Bro Guy.
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 2: I love Cat. Bro, Cat coolest half.
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: I think Cat one of the coldest players to ever play.
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: When I seen that ship, you had to be there, Bro.
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 1: We act the Prince House Bro with Prince Jerseys. I'm
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 1: watching him like this is d roll ship. Like, I'm like,
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: this is ship, you know.
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 2: What I mean.
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm a real nigga. Really I realized it. Yeah,
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 1: he went it six me. I'm like, yeah, yeah, this
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: his team that was.
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 2: One of the best collabs that they did.
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 4: I was was that the first time they ever did that.
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: That was fired up to bro Ma. Mama called me like,
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: get that prince dressing. Baby, It's gonna be a lot
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 1: for you. I'm like, up there, I said, can you
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 1: sign this? It's how much of people house? He signed
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 1: it for me? He was like, yeah, I signed it,
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 1: and somebody took that bitch. Yeah you signed and put
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: it in the locker.
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 2: Nigga. I came back, it was gone.
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: It was one of the quick Yeah right now, I can.
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 1: I know so many was asking for that ship. I was,
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 1: I want to ask another one. I'm like, mother right
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 1: after this interview.
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 7: With that jersey before for that mother right now he
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 7: had all them Jersey, I said, Yeah, that was a
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 7: hell of experience.
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 2: That was.
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: That was dope. That was his house was crazy. That's
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 1: one of the craziest homes I ever been to. I
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: don't still respect him. He's a legend and I'm talking
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 1: about in the house the rules, No, nigga, don't touch.
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: I can't touch as if he's still there. I've never
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 1: saw that one nigga be gentle around. That was like,
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 1: don't shoot on that goal Like I was like.
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 2: Damn, they said that they used to hold to I
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 2: love to meet him like that.
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 4: But the same food me and you, like you can't
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 4: bring no meat, no other ship in the crib. They
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 4: still respect him. I never saw nothing like it. Damn,
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 4: that's not.
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 2: All we got. I gotta ask. We brought up the jerseys.
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 1: How does it feel to still see you know what
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: I'm saying, like people wear your jersey? Because I know,
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 1: like we always talk about the jerseys like that, like
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: that baby Blue Nuggets Mellow jersey, but that number one
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: boy jersey.
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 2: Man, that's like a hood legend jersey.
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 1: Like everybody in the world, even you go to the
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: Fright House of the Crazy White Boys playing Beer Paul,
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 1: they got a de bro jersey. How does it feel
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: for that, like to that universal moments like everybody like,
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 1: no matter where my boy, we.
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 2: Fucking with that jersey.
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 4: As far as right now, I'm living in gratitude, appreciative,
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. And not to make y'all
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 4: this episode serious like this, because I know y'all normally
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 4: got like some humor ship.
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 2: But now you bro straight, bro straight, some people need
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 2: to hear.
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah, But yeah, just living in gratitude, bro, And that's
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 4: one of the reasons why I think wanted to come
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 4: here and show loveious west Ship.
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 1: Like I said, for sure man. Man, Like I said,
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 1: we appreciate you. We appreciate you giving us this moment. Man,
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 1: it means a life for both sides.
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 2: Man. We can't wait to see what you do next.
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 1: You know, got the team gonna keep creating, man, We're
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 1: definitely gonna push and support that before we get out
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 1: of here.
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 2: Be here and telling people that can grasp and march at.
• 1:17:11
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