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What If Compassion Scaled To Three Billion People? | Episode 407 · Voices for Voices®

• 0:01
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Hey everyone, it's Justin here of Voices for Voices.
• 0:05
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Thank you so much for joining us on this episode of the Voices for Voices TV show and podcast.
• 0:14
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• 0:32
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• 0:33
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• 0:35
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: We have a show.
• 0:37
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: It's because of you, we get up every day and want to share and talk and help.
• 0:44
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Thank you.
• 0:46
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Uh the last 48 hours, uh we're pretty pretty eventful here in in the United States.
• 0:56
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Uh and we're gonna we're gonna talk about this next topic as um just human beings, and and then we're gonna go from there.
• 1:10
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: So as human beings, we don't want to see anybody suffer, we don't want to see anybody injured, hurt, and sometimes I'm gonna say allegedly, because I don't have first hand accounts.
• 1:28
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Uh I I have news reports and uh statements that be given by governments and the like.
• 1:39
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And the event that I am going to be referring to or be talking to, talking about on this episode is um a couple days ago, in the middle of the night, uh the United States, one of our special forces, um basically extradited, uh captured and brought home.
• 2:12
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Uh an individual and his wife.
• 2:16
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Uh so the leader at one time of Venezuela, Nicholas Maduro, and his spouse.
• 2:25
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Uh, there was, I believe, a an a US indictment on the books from 2020 or 2021 as a fugitive from the law for a wide range of things.
• 2:44
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Human trafficking, uh smuggling, you know, trafficking drugs, um, emptying out the worst of the worst prisons in in the country, and with again, what's what's alleged, uh is over the the last well, is it's going on, it's going on almost a year with with uh Donald J.
• 3:20
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Trump President Donald J.
• 3:22
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Trump in office here in the United States, but the prior four years uh the the border to the United States was just completely open.
• 3:36
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: There were millions upon millions uh just literally walking through the border, they were you know being given dates to to go decor.
• 3:49
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Very few would have ever actually make it to court, and there was a pretty porous P O R O U S, uh pretty porous system in place, and that allowed a lot of a lot of individuals in into the the country, um, as well as a lot of what else is alleged, you know, with the um yeah, the the human smuggling, human trafficking, drug smuggling, all uh a lot of it, uh we were being we've been briefed on uh coming from Venezuela.
• 4:36
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And so again, a couple days ago in the dead of night, uh Nicholas Maduro, who was not the def was not the he was not the person who was uh elected by the people in the most recent election.
• 4:58
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Um we're not gonna get into like all the politics and that because that could just first off, we just we we try to steer clear as much as we can of the politics side of things.
• 5:10
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: We're just gonna talk it from the human being standpoint.
• 5:13
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And so, what does human trafficking, what is drug smuggling, drug trafficking, all those things does have in common the potential to hurt people.
• 5:27
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: So if, and we're not just talking about individuals who are uh, you know, sometimes in our mind when we hear the word like, oh, they're addicted to drugs or you know, some terms like that, you know, we think of I don't know, maybe a certain maybe a certain criteria come in our head of what that looks like in our mind without also realizing that there's individuals who go to parties never taken a taken a taken a drug in their life, and they choose to experiment, and we're not condoning this at all.
• 6:26
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: We absolutely are not condoning this at all.
• 6:30
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And sometimes what has happened is you have your student of whatever age at a party being told, oh, this is what you're you know, you're taking Xanax or you're taking whatever.
• 6:53
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And that being laced with fentanyl, where just a few grains can kill a person, and obviously the more you have, the more people can potentially pass away, and so what this you know, Delta Force mission with you know hundred and fifty plus uh pieces of equipment, machinery, uh multiple strikes in Venezuela, uh when when Nicholas Maduro and his spouse were uh captured, and and then they're back here in the United States to face justice, uh what that what that looks like.
• 7:57
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And so we're we're looking at it again from the human perspective that if this individual and and his spouse were doing these things to hurt and they're hurting people, and they're sending gang members and people literally just walking again, walking across the border and in the United States and you know, just process them because we're it just wasn't this wasn't good for a lot of areas of law enforcement when President Biden was in office, and this isn't this has nothing to do with politics, this has all to do with actions, and the actions and the the proof is in the numbers of how many cross the border and how many, or even if you want to ballpark, numbers of unaccompanied minors, so those are children under eighteen who are unaccompanied, and all of them haven't been found yet, so something's going on, and so that's part of that potential of human trafficking, and so that's not a good thing from a human perspective, right?
• 9:40
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I mean we go, oh this isn't happening in our country, and oh, this this only happens in other countries, and you know, in other neighborhoods, not my neighborhood, and uh it's just unfortunate.
• 9:57
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: So you only have the kids that are the children, and the company minors that were were lost.
• 10:04
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I know I know ACE and the Trump administration is trying to do their best to locate and find as many and save as many of those children as possible.
• 10:23
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And then from the drug perspective that is mentioned earlier, you know, you have a you know what if somebody wants to say like a prototypical drug user.
• 10:37
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I don't like saying that because we're all human and we're all unique.
• 10:47
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: So to say, like, oh, this is a prototypical and you know, this person chose this life.
• 10:54
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Well, who made us God?
• 10:56
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Who made I I'm not so who made you God if if you're if you wanted to start, you know, spout them off different different things.
• 11:11
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: So uh regardless of how an individual took a drug, a narcotic, and if they've overdosed and they pass away, doesn't matter if it's a student, doesn't matter if it's a 50, 60, 45-year-old human being.
• 11:35
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: These people pass away, unfortunately, sometimes.
• 11:42
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And we've talked about it before, so you know, it's not just the individual that passes away, that the the effect of whatever substance caused, caused them to pass away.
• 12:01
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: You know, there's family, there's friends, there's acquaintances.
• 12:09
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: There's a lot of people that are affected, and you know, some may say, oh, well, you know, some don't have anybody that well, you know, do we want to get into like uh you know going back and forth on like that you know, terms and all that?
• 12:30
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I'd rather keep our conversation.
• 12:33
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Uh, because I've I've seen comments on on our TikTok lives and other places, and I'm not gonna sit here and second guess and say, oh, well, this person shouldn't have done this, and you know, they they were given all these opportunities, and maybe they had.
• 12:55
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Maybe they had.
• 12:56
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Does that still mean the person is a person that well they made their own decision?
• 13:07
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: You'll say that about 18, 17, 16, 17, 18-year-olds at a party, and for the first time they take something, and parents and family go, well, you know, my Johnny or my Susie, or you know, they they would never they would never do that.
• 13:27
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Well, maybe they wouldn't, but maybe they did.
• 13:31
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And obviously the intention, and I would say darn near a hundred percent of the case is people don't want to die.
• 13:44
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: They're not thinking, like, oh, I'm gonna do whatever I need to do to get the money or to trade whatever to get a particular substance, just so they they're gonna like, okay, well, this is gonna cause me to pass away.
• 14:06
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I don't know too many people like that.
• 14:08
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I in fact, I don't know anybody like that.
• 14:12
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: That that's how they think.
• 14:14
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: So this you know, this raid in Venezuela, you know, bringing Nicolas Maduro, who at a time was president of Venezuela, his spouse.
• 14:31
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Uh you know, we're talking from the human perspective.
• 14:39
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: We're here to help as many people as possible.
• 14:42
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: You hear us talk about show after show after show that we want to help at least 300.
• 14:51
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: We want to help at least three billion people over the course of my lifetime and beyond.
• 14:58
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And so there's there's gonna be individuals that some may go, oh well, why would you want to help them?
• 15:11
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And I go, well, are you know are they a human being?
• 15:15
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Like are they worthy of a second chance given if there are certain certain crimes that are committed?
• 15:32
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Um most instances you're caught, you do your time, you do what what's asked, and you turn away from that life that you had before.
• 15:54
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Yeah, we can see scenarios of I mean, what that help looks like is a lot different than like what you're probably thinking.
• 16:07
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: We're not just gonna stay on the Urbs handing out money hand over fist to you know the some of the some of the individuals that are incarcerated or may be incarcerated.
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  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: But on the other hand, there's there's others.
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  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: So we're talking about a human perspective.
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  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: We don't want we don't want humans to die.
• 16:42
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: So however that's happening, however substances are getting into the country, we don't we don't want anybody we don't want anybody to die.
• 16:54
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Um at all.
• 16:59
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I mean that's just we want everybody to wake up tomorrow.
• 17:04
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: That's just the long and short of it.
• 17:09
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: That we want everybody to wake up and live happy, healthy, pro prosperous lives.
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  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And again, we're we're connecting on culture more than politics.
• 17:26
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And so I I would think that most cultures may want people to be healthy.
• 17:40
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I I would think.
• 17:45
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I don't I don't know a hundred percent.
• 17:47
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Um so that's the that's the angle we're we're we're going at this.
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  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: So there are people who have made bad choices, yes.
• 18:00
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Uh I say I would gander to say that we all have probably made a bad choice at least once in our days.
• 18:14
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And so at some point we were given another chance.
• 18:26
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: You know, maybe it was a big maybe it was something very small compared to, you know, bringing things allegedly across international borders and all fentanyl and carfentanol and xylosine and all these offshoots that some of these dealers are using to cut the real drug like cocaine, so they can make more money.
• 19:06
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: So they cut it.
• 19:07
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: So if they have one of something and they cut it that one into three, well, guess what?
• 19:18
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: The one that was gonna be one sale just turned into three.
• 19:25
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: So that's the reason.
• 19:27
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Greed sometimes, maybe oftentimes, plays a role.
• 19:34
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And so that's where you sort, you know, they don't these other substances that I just mentioned, you know, fentanyl, uh, carfentanol, xylazine, you know, these literal designer drugs made in the laboratory at first, and then have found their way kind of into the And the society, I guess, at some level.
• 20:06
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And so what I'm trying to get at is we support all people, even Venezuelans.
• 20:27
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: No matter what.
• 20:30
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Because we have a we have a thought process that we just like the judicial process, right?
• 20:44
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I mean we we wanna we wanna believe that there's there's good in people.
• 20:50
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Sometimes some bad runs into that.
• 20:56
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And um but what we're talking about is the people that we're talking to and and helping and and getting our messages through is you know the regular and individual trying to make ends meet, pay the bills.
• 21:22
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: For me, trying to do that, trying to help people and so yeah, there's there's individuals where maybe some not very nice things.
• 21:51
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And so we're we're we're not gonna comment that you know that high our level about like what's going what's gonna happen to Nicholas Maduro and his spouse.
• 22:07
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And uh you know, we we have an understanding again through media reports, news stories, that they're gonna be going through the United States justice system.
• 22:21
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Uh and that's about all we know, really, at this this this point.
• 22:30
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• 22:39
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• 22:46
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• 24:39
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• 25:03
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• 25:22
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• 25:25
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• 25:30
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• 25:40
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• 25:45
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• 25:51
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: This is the show that we were only supposed to reach five uh 300 total episodes at the end of calendar year 2025.
• 26:04
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: We blew through that.
• 26:06
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: We were at, I think, 403 episodes uh by the by the time the page turned into uh the the 2026 year calendar year, and we haven't let up yet, and we're not going to.
• 26:24
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: We're just gonna continue.
• 26:27
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: We know there's gonna be ups, there's gonna be downs, there's gonna be peaks, there's gonna be valleys, and some of our episodes are gonna be uh like our one of the most recent episodes that we did on Aerosmith and going to concerts and kind of my experiences over the years.
• 26:49
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Uh, you know, we're gonna we're gonna have episodes like that that are a little more lighthearted, but they still they still weave themselves into voices for voices.
• 27:01
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And music is one way to share your voice, whether that's playing an instrument, whether that's singing, it it just becomes a another uh another way to share our voice.
• 27:21
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Uh so we're gonna we're gonna have all kinds of episodes like we have.
• 27:26
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And I said I'll use I guess I'll use the word gander twice in this episode.
• 27:33
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: It's all gandered adventure that first off, you gotta hit subscribe, you gotta share, you gotta like, give us a thumbs up, uh, let us know, let the world know.
• 27:49
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: We're reaching uh over a hundred countries.
• 27:52
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Let's make that let's make that 300 countries.
• 27:56
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: We're reaching a thousand cities, let's make that three thousand cities.
• 28:01
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: There's no reason why why we shouldn't be able to do that.
• 28:06
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Uh we can't stop, we won't stop.
• 28:11
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Uh and every once in a while we'll have some comedy where I'll uh I'll try to sing a song, which is basically uh what usually ends up just being me uh reading the lyrics because I'm not a I'm not a trained musician.
• 28:38
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Not that I have to be a trained musician or a trained singer at all, uh, but I do it because it's it's another way to share a voice.
• 28:47
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And and it and comedy, that's another way to share a voice.
• 28:53
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And you know, laughter, I'm okay with that.
• 28:56
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: We I would I would much prefer laughter over somebody thinking that you know life isn't for them.
• 29:10
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: There's always a reason to live.
• 29:13
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: We all have ups and downs.
• 29:17
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Look for the positive.
• 29:20
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Dream.
• 29:23
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Don't don't let anybody tell you you can't.
• 29:27
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: One thing that I one thing I've I've learned over the years, and this isn't me, this isn't me trying to do anything, this is merely me uh remembering a quote.
• 29:47
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: You know, some you know, sometimes we have these quotes, you know, we see on social media, or or we have these, you know, miniature calendars, and we each each page is a new day and a new date, and uh, and there'll be a you know quote, you know, an uplifting quote.
• 30:08
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Uh and one of the ones that I remember, I don't know, I don't remember when, where I was, who said it, but I give credit to whoever said it the first time.
• 30:24
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And and that is quite simply this that there's gonna be a lot of ups and downs.
• 30:34
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: That's just gonna be a given, that's just life, like once once we kind of get to the point, I it took me a long time to grow up.
• 30:44
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I'm still growing up as the days go.
• 30:47
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Uh but the quote is generally something something like this that if individuals or people are you know coming at you hard, trying to either stop what you're doing, slow down, then you're probably on the right track.
• 31:14
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I think it was Dave Ramsey actually.
• 31:18
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Used to listen to him so much.
• 31:24
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And he and in addition to that, it's not just the you know, it means you're closer to success or closer to making it, whatever that is.
• 31:47
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I mean, and it's not always money, it's not always money.
• 31:52
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I'd rather leave this world knowing I help three and a half billion people than to just have huge stacks of money.
• 32:04
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: So I can't bring it with me.
• 32:08
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Uh but to go on with that that quote that I'm thinking of.
• 32:14
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I believe it was Dave Ramsey, the financial guru, uh, you know, the baby steps, and and that that's his kind of his foundation of how he got his start.
• 32:27
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: He went bankrupt a couple times.
• 32:29
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And anyways, he's got his whole thing, and you check him out if you if you'd like.
• 32:35
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Uh, we're not getting paid by him, uh, we're not being sponsored by him.
• 32:40
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Uh, but I'm I'm gonna share what I believe it was something he may have said.
• 32:48
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: So the the closer you get to attaining some level of success, there's gonna be a lot of friction, a lot of a lot of things.
• 33:05
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: It's like, oh my gosh, how am I ever gonna get there?
• 33:10
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: How am I ever gonna make it?
• 33:12
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And and I'm just talking about having like a an average run-in-the-mill career, I guess.
• 33:23
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And then the second part that is don't give up because if you gl you give up, you're you're close to the time that you're ready to give up oftentimes is the time right before you make it.
• 33:53
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: So those two thoughts kind of intermingle, and again, I don't want to put words in Dave Ramsey's mouth.
• 34:00
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Uh I I think it was him that said it, uh, or a variation of that.
• 34:07
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: If it wasn't him, I apologize to Dave.
• 34:09
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I'm not I'm trying to show it in a good light and share it.
• 34:13
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Uh so yeah, there's gonna be friction, there's gonna be ups and downs, and there's gonna be times.
• 34:22
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I guess I'll let me let me attribute it to something else.
• 34:26
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Let's say somebody buys a stock, so stock in a company for 25 cents, and the time goes by again.
• 34:48
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: This is hypothetical, so I'm just throwing this as an example out.
• 34:52
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: So let's say buy a stock at 25 cents, thinking, and you know, hearing and reading news reports and and everything, like, okay, you know, there's there's a lot going on with this organization, so you know, this could be the next uh Apple or Google or you know, bigger company that's gonna make it, and like, and so you might say, Oh, you know, I bought you know, you know, 10 shares at 25 cents, and time goes on, and it might top out at a dollar.
• 35:28
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Again, this is hypothetical, and so please do not take this as any advice at all, at all.
• 35:38
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: This is no advice, and everything I'm saying is just coming out of the top of my head.
• 35:44
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: So do not take what I'm saying as uh reality.
• 35:55
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I'm just giving I'm I'm trying to illustrate something that I thought about when I was just sharing those bits about, you know, if you're you're getting a lot of resistance, are you ready to give up, all signs point, a lot of signs point to giving up.
• 36:16
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And then we do, and potentially, you know, whether that's selling the company, whether that's I don't know, just stopping and just getting rid of all the assets if you have any assets, um, you know, equipment or what have you.
• 36:38
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: So you buy 20, you know, 10, 10 shares of 25 cents of each for a particular company, supposed to be the next best thing.
• 36:49
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: So a period of time goes by and it tops out around a dollar, and you're like, all right, well, it you know, multiply itself by four, excuse me.
• 37:00
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: So I don't I'm being impatient, and so you sell it, or I sell it, and that's hypothetical.
• 37:11
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: It doesn't matter who sells it because this isn't true, like it's just a hypothetical, okay.
• 37:16
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And time goes on, so you right, you've sold it, I've sold it, you know.
• 37:28
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: We've made you know four times the money that we made, and we're like, you know, uh like my patience, I just can't take it.
• 37:39
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I don't want to lose it, or I I don't want to make something, and uh again, like if that's your thing, then like you have a little bit more patience, and uh so then let's say time goes on, time goes on, time goes on, and that 25 cent share of that stock winds up at like 400 a share, and then you can do the math and that you know, and say like okay 400 times 10, you know, the or the you know the difference and all that, and I look at it a little bit like that, where you're just ready to get um, you know, we're we're we're just ready to give up on this company, not as like giving up as in like we're throwing in a towel, we're just like I don't have the patience for this.
• 38:44
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Uh this could take years, and I just don't have the patience.
• 38:50
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And so we get out and we sell it.
• 38:53
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Maybe we make money and sometimes we don't.
• 38:57
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Sometimes we're like, all right, it's at 22 cents, and I might as well just sell it because it's not gonna, it's not gonna, you know, these reports and every everything, and the cash flows and all these things that we're we were looking at, thinking that like this was the next best next biggest thing.
• 39:20
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Uh and then it does, then it does, it pops to like 400, maybe it pops at like a thousand over a period of time.
• 39:35
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And so what I would say to that is to kind of bring all this together is if you believe in something, then there's some higher power, whether it's whether you believe in God, another.
• 39:59
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Form whatever you believe in or don't believe in it.
• 40:16
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: It just means that if you're continuing to be given the bare minimum to get by, to get at least the bare minimum.
• 40:34
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Not the bare doesn't always have to be the bare minimum.
• 40:37
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I know some young people are gonna be like, oh, we said the bare minimum, so I'm gonna just get my you know all the way down to.
• 40:44
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And I'm not trying to say, you know, you know, until you have 25 cents in your account, then I'm talking like whatever that thing is that you're doing, if if you're you know, if you're an athlete and you still have that dream of making making it pro, or um and you you still have a pair of shoes, a pair of cleats, a pair of shorts, you have the equipment, uh, you have the ability to get to pra to you know work out, and maybe maybe there's uh um like a a day where everybody who wants to try out for a team can do it, and maybe maybe you get that chance and then you you do it.
• 41:38
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Or maybe you don't, or maybe I do it, or maybe I don't.
• 41:42
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: But as long as those little nuggets, those little golden nuggets are are kind of aligning themselves, give it a go.
• 41:59
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: If that's what you if that's what you like, and that's where your passion's at.
• 42:04
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And so you're the reason you're watching, you're the you're the reason you're watching, listening that has kept me going for over four hundred episodes.
• 42:23
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Guests from as far away as Australia, here in the United States, as far as distance-wise talking.
• 42:37
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Uh, we've had viewers and listeners in Greenland and Antarctica, North Korea, South Korea, Italy, Russia, Russia Federation, Ukraine, France, Tasmania, uh, Mexico, Canada, you know, I it's just incredible.
• 43:07
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Like those numbers, though those the numbers don't lie.
• 43:22
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And so I look at our show and say, All right, well, if somebody gave two iodas or one iota, then we wouldn't have reached that many this many countries, this many cities, this many people.
• 43:47
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: We just wouldn't.
• 43:50
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: That would have been like the the the book just closing up.
• 43:54
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And so while there are very tough days, very, very incredibly tough days, then there's others when I look at numbers that I look at and go, oh my gosh.
• 44:21
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: We're doing it.
• 44:25
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: We're reaching people, we're helping people because otherwise people wouldn't be tuning in because that's been our message from day one, and it continues the over 400 episodes.
• 44:44
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: So that's what I mean.
• 44:50
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: It doesn't mean we're helping my money, doesn't mean everything is a it's a little bit different.
• 44:57
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: How we we help.
• 44:59
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Some things are small, some things are big.
• 45:02
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: A lot of it is just relating a little bit to just even a tiny portion of either my story or one of our guests' stories.
• 45:14
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: People go, oh, you know what?
• 45:18
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I'm not, I'm not the only person.
• 45:22
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And that goes with the stigmas of mental illness and to anything to go on for me, you know, twenty plus years with crooked teeth, and that taking such a mental toll on my my mental health.
• 45:51
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I mean, I'm I'm lucky that I was able to to have braces for the third time, and you can go visit that episode.
• 46:05
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: It's one of our most, let's say, last ten or fifteen episodes we have.
• 46:11
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Where we did we talk about that at length.
• 46:17
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: So as as we we just come back and close out this episode of the show.
• 46:25
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: As always, we we thank you for everything for watching, listening.
• 46:32
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• 46:44
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• 46:45
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• 46:48
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• 46:54
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• 47:00
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• 47:02
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• 47:10
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Just say I was I was watching or I was listening to a show, it's it's got over four hundred episodes.
• 47:22
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: So they must be doing something, right?
• 47:24
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Because analytic and number wise, the amount of overall podcasts and shows that start with one episode and get to a hundred is smaller than two hundred to three hundred smaller, then three hundred to four hundred, even smaller, meaning there's fewer and fewer podcasts that have at least four hundred episodes or more, and we're at the 400 episodes and more already at the beginning of January of 2026.
• 48:17
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: So uh we we have only you to thank.
• 48:23
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Send us some followers again.
• 48:27
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I said we're reaching a hundred countries, territories, thousand cities.
• 48:35
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Let's make help us reach three hundred countries and territories.
• 48:40
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Help us reach three thousand cities across the world.
• 48:45
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I know we can do it.
• 48:47
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I know we can.
• 48:49
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: We can do it together.
• 48:52
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: We're here to unify, not divide.
• 48:56
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: We're here to talk more about culture than politics.
• 49:01
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: So while this episode started off a little bit on the politics side of things, the main thing is we want to help save people, and we want people to be happy, healthy, prosperous.
• 49:13
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And so that usually means people being alive.
• 49:18
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And so that's what we what what we want.
• 49:22
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I think that's what everybody wants.
• 49:27
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I think people go to bed at night, they they plan on waking up in the morning.
• 49:36
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: There's some kind of a plan, there's a an alarm clock of sorts to get set for a certain time for a certain reason.
• 49:46
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And so help us.
• 49:52
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Help voices for voices again bring bring a hundred or bring thousands to voices for voices.
• 50:05
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Let them be part of this movement of helping over three billion people over the course of my lifetime and beyond.
• 50:18
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I know we can do it.
• 50:21
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I know we can reach over three hundred countries.
• 50:28
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I know we can reach over three thousand cities across the world.
• 50:33
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: We got nothing but love coming our way to you.
• 50:39
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And whether you're a believer or not, we're still praying that you have a happy, healthy, prosperous life, whatever that means to you.
• 50:51
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And we'll see you on the next show.
• 50:58
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Until next time, let's celebrate all of our lives, let's celebrate all of our voices, and let's be a voice for you and somebody else in need.
• 51:19
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Until then, this has been Justin Alan Hayes with Voices for Voices.
• 51:25
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: We love you, we thank you, and we look forward to seeing you on a future episode or TikTok live.
• 51:35
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: We love you, take care.