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How defense can bounce back | Jags Drive Time: Wednesday, October 19 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Jack's Drive Time with Ashlyn Sullimon with John
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Speaker 1: Ocean and Brian Sexton at Jacks Drive Time. It starts
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Speaker 1: right now. I let's don't get him back, Let's don't
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Speaker 1: get him mad. Let's go let's start him long to
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Speaker 1: go back. But I said that right, and rock and
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Speaker 1: long bright rocket heay rocket rocket block gay poor pooler?
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Speaker 1: Who cool? Look go right? Y'all? All right? I can
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Speaker 1: talk about the break or who long thing? We got
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Speaker 1: a long season, but long season, but so many mu
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Speaker 1: plasumator Rashon Jenkins miked Up in Indianapolis. You can check
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Speaker 1: out the full episode of miked Up on Jaguars dot Com.
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Speaker 1: Welcome to Jaguars Drive Time on a Wednesday morning, Ashlyn,
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Speaker 1: Bryan and John here with you on a chili day
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Speaker 1: in Jacksonville. I always have to say that when it's
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Speaker 1: the first chili day of the year, we get excited
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Speaker 1: around here. Christmas is in the air. Boys, you didn't
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Speaker 1: seem excited when you were in Philly and it was
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Speaker 1: chili that was a different type of chili. And I
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Speaker 1: was the farthest thing from excited during that game. Would
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Speaker 1: you like, really, no, there's no need to go back.
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Speaker 1: Let's talk about Rashon Jenkins neighbor. My Caldwell system has
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Speaker 1: really put him in a spot to make plays. And
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Speaker 1: when you watch, you see him all over the field, right,
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Speaker 1: I don't I can't give you a grade on how
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Speaker 1: he is in coverage, but watching him near the line
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Speaker 1: of scrimmage, blitzing, making tackles. He tipped a ball the
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Speaker 1: other day, very active. It's interesting to watch him play. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I agree with you, Um, it's always dangerous. I haven't
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Speaker 1: talked to anybody like you, Brian who has told me
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Speaker 1: how he's great if there's a their errors, but he's
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Speaker 1: certainly I would say, Um. Makes is the Jaguars defensive
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Speaker 1: player who is making significantly more big plays this year
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Speaker 1: than he was last. And uh, he stands out and
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Speaker 1: that's what a safety's job is. Today he impacts and
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Speaker 1: disrupts and uh, he didn't do much of that last
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Speaker 1: Year's for him. They like their safeties here. They both
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Speaker 1: played well so far this season and they need them
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Speaker 1: to help out in the passing game going forward. Both
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Speaker 1: of them making huge strives for ray Sean Jenkins and
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Speaker 1: Andre Cisco as well. Let's get into big things. Big
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Speaker 1: thing one is time to get right. The Jaguars on
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Speaker 1: a three game losing streak and now is the time
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Speaker 1: if you want to have anything close to that feeling
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Speaker 1: you had in Los Angeles and getting back to the
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Speaker 1: winning ways the Jaguars had early on this year. Hopefully
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Speaker 1: Jaguars best football ahead of them Octobers and spooky to
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Speaker 1: say the least. Um, but you want to play your
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Speaker 1: best football in nor Vembland December and um you know
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Speaker 1: you don't want to peak too soon. And I feel
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Speaker 1: as though this team is on pace to do something
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Speaker 1: special down the road. Coming up. We have an unbelievable
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Speaker 1: opportunity this week against the Giants to a good football team.
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Speaker 1: They run the ball well. Great challenge for our defense.
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Speaker 1: We newly they have on defense as we get into
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Speaker 1: them a little bit more. But November December and when
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Speaker 1: we start clicking at that moment and we gained that momentum,
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Speaker 1: I think that's what makes a Nagers team and hopefully
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Speaker 1: we can put ourselves in that category. Name for the
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Speaker 1: big thing too, is time for takeaways. The Jaguars at
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Speaker 1: one point let the league and takeaways in the past
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Speaker 1: two weeks they have had none. Where have they been
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Speaker 1: for Loukhan explains, we gotta take a take advantance of
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Speaker 1: opportunities to come. Remember they had a fumble. They did
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Speaker 1: have a fumble and we didn't get it. So as
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Speaker 1: as a one to thing, Um, we gotta run to
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Speaker 1: the ball better. We gotta you know, the ball is
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Speaker 1: everything in that in that situation, the ball is occult
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Speaker 1: need Octus did in the Belize. So you want to breathe,
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Speaker 1: get the ball. M A couple of balls left up
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Speaker 1: into everything gets you. But you gotta take advantage of
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Speaker 1: the wanting to come. Uh, get back to that. And finally,
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Speaker 1: big thing three is time for accountability. Someone has to
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Speaker 1: be to blame for the Jaguars three game losing streak, right. Well,
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Speaker 1: the more of the story is plenty of players have
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Speaker 1: to play better to end this losing streak, but we
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Speaker 1: all know it always falls on the head coach. Yeah
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Speaker 1: number one, I still take the fall um for the
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Speaker 1: whole thing because I'm responsible for the team. So um yeah,
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Speaker 1: I mean you have conversations with coordinators each week, you know,
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Speaker 1: and and um, and then I have conversations with the
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Speaker 1: team and and um you know, just they everybody needs
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Speaker 1: to know the importance of each game each game is
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Speaker 1: its own entity, and you know there's there's things that
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Speaker 1: still are are kind of showing up in these games
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Speaker 1: that are they are sort of self inflicting. And you know,
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Speaker 1: it just so happened this week. It's third downs, you know,
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Speaker 1: in the second half, just being able to get off
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Speaker 1: the field defensively, and you know, um, the two d
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Speaker 1: p i s and you know Buck in the past
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Speaker 1: or kept kept driving a lot, you know for them.
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Speaker 1: So those are all things that, um, you know, we
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Speaker 1: have to eliminate, we have to correct and and I'm
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Speaker 1: a big part of that obviously with you know what
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Speaker 1: the coorinators on the team, and that is big things
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Speaker 1: on a Wednesday morning, as we go back up to
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Speaker 1: big thing one, which is time to get right. At
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Speaker 1: one point, the stretch of this season looks favorable to
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Speaker 1: the Jaguars. You had the Texans, you had the Giants,
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Speaker 1: you had the Broncos. We didn't expect a month ago
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Speaker 1: and we were talking about this that the Giants would
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Speaker 1: be five and one coming to Jacksonville. It's a little
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Speaker 1: different of a story now. Yeah. I mean there's still
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Speaker 1: look before the season, John, when people would ask me
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Speaker 1: what that what are they going to do this year.
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Speaker 1: What's Doug Peterson gonna get done? I said, I hope
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Speaker 1: that they're relevant around Thanksgiving. I mean, I didn't predict
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Speaker 1: the playoffs. What I said was if there are some
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Speaker 1: games in late November where hey, if they win this one,
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Speaker 1: they're right in it. Well, that's still in front of
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Speaker 1: this team, right, but they have to start taking advantage
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Speaker 1: of the games that are here right now. They have
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Speaker 1: to find a way to finish a game, close out
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Speaker 1: a game. I go back to, which I do all
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Speaker 1: the time, but it's a great lesson. Team was four
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Speaker 1: and seven at one point, they lost in New Orleans
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Speaker 1: and in St. Louis and looked horrible in doing so.
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Speaker 1: And then what happened was the running game got going
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Speaker 1: that year. The defense played better because they weren't on
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Speaker 1: the field all the time than Mark Brunell was playing
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Speaker 1: with the lead every once in a while. That's still
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Speaker 1: in front of this team. It's still there for them,
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Speaker 1: but they've got to get it done themselves. They got
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Speaker 1: to figure out how they're going to fix that past defense.
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Speaker 1: They've got to figure out how they're gonna run the
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Speaker 1: ball consistently when they need to run the ball right
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Speaker 1: those things are still there for this team. Well, I
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Speaker 1: still have to grow up, and I'll sort of tied
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Speaker 1: it into big thing. Three. It seems to me when
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Speaker 1: Dougs talking about accountability, etcetera, um, inside that it seems
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Speaker 1: like there's messages about big plays at key moments and
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Speaker 1: I don't know that. Um. I've been talking all year
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Speaker 1: about this team's core players who are veteran players. There's
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Speaker 1: not very many of them, Brian, and those are usually
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Speaker 1: the guys that you depend on in big moments. It
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Speaker 1: seems owen four in games decided by a score less
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Speaker 1: all of their losses. In three of the losses they
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Speaker 1: had leads in the last three minutes UM in three
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Speaker 1: other of the losses, or four they've had the ball
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Speaker 1: with a chance to go tie. This team hasn't made
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Speaker 1: the big plays in the big moments. Uh. I think
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Speaker 1: they've got guys who will do that. They haven't done
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Speaker 1: that yet. That's what gives me hope that they can
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Speaker 1: be relevant because at some point somebody's gonna make a
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Speaker 1: play at the end of the game. They're gonna and
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Speaker 1: they're gonna say, oh, that's what it is. And then
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Speaker 1: I think you've got eleven games left. I think you've
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Speaker 1: got a chance to win four or five of those
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Speaker 1: and get to that six seven thing we've been talking about.
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Speaker 1: Maybe more, but that's it. Those key moments. They have
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Speaker 1: not made big plays in chey moments. Well, they do
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Speaker 1: have some guys on this roster, though they brought in
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Speaker 1: mostly through free agency. You can take a Roy Robertson
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Speaker 1: Harris so fully fought to cost a fully Lui con Um,
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Speaker 1: you know, Josh Allen, Chris Mann Hurts. I mean, they've
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Speaker 1: got guys who understand how to Brandon Sheriff Um. Those
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Speaker 1: guys have to set a really strong example for some
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Speaker 1: of these young guys right now. I get it. The
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Speaker 1: core players, the quarterback in particular, those guys you're looking for.
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Speaker 1: They're still young and still trying to see things through.
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Speaker 1: But there's a lot of reason to think that this
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Speaker 1: team can turn this thing and start winning some close games.
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Speaker 1: And John, you know you've heard this like I have
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Speaker 1: for years. You go from losing big too, losing small
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Speaker 1: two winning small before you finally get to a position
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Speaker 1: where you're winning with a more substantial more I would
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Speaker 1: say win big, because not many teams do that in
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Speaker 1: the NFL, But they're in that. You know, lose close,
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Speaker 1: lose close. To lose close, you gotta find a way
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Speaker 1: to win close. That that's where you go from being
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Speaker 1: a six seven maybe more team to right. They've got
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Speaker 1: to flip that switch and get that gap. And it's
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Speaker 1: not just the quarterback, it's it's the defense. They've got
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Speaker 1: to come through. They've gotta get a stop. Yeah, when
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Speaker 1: it matters most. And we talk about accountability. I was
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Speaker 1: on a radio show Monday night and they were talking
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Speaker 1: about Trayvon Walkers and they called him dumb mistakes, which
9:03
Speaker 1: they are. They were dumb mistakes at crucial times in
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Speaker 1: the game. And they asked, Okay, well, Ashland, how do
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Speaker 1: you fix that? What do you do? Like, I don't know,
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Speaker 1: And they're like, well, how long can you keep it up?
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Speaker 1: I said, he's Traymon Walker. He's gonna keep playing. At
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Speaker 1: some point it sounds like growing pains, that sounds annoying,
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Speaker 1: but he's gonna be on the field regardless. And I
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Speaker 1: don't know when those mistakes stop. I don't know how
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Speaker 1: you fix those. I don't expect that he'll keep making
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Speaker 1: that mistake. In pro football, um, the accountability comes from
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Speaker 1: within knowing that this is your job as professionalism. They're
9:37
Speaker 1: not gonna bench Trayvon Walker, especially when one of the
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Speaker 1: plays that he made was on one of the few
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Speaker 1: pressures they had. Uh So it was a mistake because
9:46
Speaker 1: you say you can't come down in that situation. You
9:48
Speaker 1: have keep your hands up. If you're gonna go in
9:49
Speaker 1: that hard when your arms are that long. Well it is,
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Speaker 1: but it was not as inexcusable as the week before,
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Speaker 1: but it was still inexcusable. Um, you're not to bench
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Speaker 1: these guys because if you bench them, you're putting players
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Speaker 1: in who are not as good as they are, so
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Speaker 1: you reduce your chance of winning. I'm not sure people
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Speaker 1: want that look I wrote about. I wrote about it
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Speaker 1: for quick Thoughts that I think goes up later today,
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Speaker 1: and I talked about a little bit last week that
10:14
Speaker 1: in speaking to a couple of veteran players there is
10:17
Speaker 1: more detail work that needs to be done by younger players.
10:20
Speaker 1: They're still learning how to prepare. He'll learn right, he'll
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Speaker 1: figure that out, and and not just not just off
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Speaker 1: the field preparational that it's important, but the detail work
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Speaker 1: about not driving into a quarterback as you're taking him
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Speaker 1: to the ground or hitting him in the head. I
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Speaker 1: mean all of these things factor into it, and you
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Speaker 1: learned by playing. I don't expect, knowing the kind of
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Speaker 1: person and player that he is, that he's going to
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Speaker 1: make more of those mistakes there painful, I mean really painful.
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Speaker 1: The last two weeks. You can point to those two
10:51
Speaker 1: plays and say maybe the reason you lost right. Um,
10:55
Speaker 1: I don't expect that he'll keep going. I expect that
10:57
Speaker 1: he's the kind of guy they're gonna turn it around.
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Speaker 1: It's just growing games, even though they aren't pretty at times. No,
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Speaker 1: and we we we just have to. No takeaways is
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Speaker 1: a huge factor for this team right now. When you've
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Speaker 1: got a quarterback, although he played well last week, and
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Speaker 1: you want to get the ball and end drives like
11:14
Speaker 1: they have those two drives at the end of the
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Speaker 1: second quarter where they go nowhere. I think one of
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Speaker 1: them was seventeen seconds. The Colts to those two drives
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Speaker 1: short punts, turned them into ten points, made a game
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Speaker 1: of it at behalf right. Takeaways change that dynamic for you.
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Speaker 1: If you get more possessions for your quarterback. Well, in
11:32
Speaker 1: order to get that, you've got to figure out how
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Speaker 1: to stop this a short passing game with a quick
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Speaker 1: release because that by its nature. I think teams looked
11:43
Speaker 1: at the Jags and said, Okay, if we don't turn
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Speaker 1: the ball over against these guys, they are not a
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Speaker 1: great pass rushing defense. Let's not give them the ball
11:51
Speaker 1: when no team wants to give teams the ball. But
11:53
Speaker 1: it seems like they are game planning specifically to have
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Speaker 1: the short passing game. I don't think they think that
12:00
Speaker 1: the corners can come up and stop them in that
12:02
Speaker 1: at the last or especially on on on Sunday, they
12:05
Speaker 1: did not, So until they figure that out, I don't
12:09
Speaker 1: think you're gonna see a nine turnover in four game
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Speaker 1: pace anymore. Uh. That is the major difference why you
12:17
Speaker 1: don't feel like this team is dominant defensively like they
12:21
Speaker 1: wore at times in the first and that is big things.
12:24
Speaker 1: When we come back on Jaguars Drive Time, we talk
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Speaker 1: about this Sunday's home game against the New York Giants
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Speaker 1: with Brandon London coming up on the Jaguars Dignal Network.
12:35
Speaker 1: We're back to Jaguars Drive Time on a Wednesday, getting
12:37
Speaker 1: ready for a home game against the New York Giants,
12:39
Speaker 1: and with that we bring in Brandon London, who was
12:42
Speaker 1: a player for the Giants in two thousand and seven,
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Speaker 1: and right now is a contributor to Giants dot com,
12:46
Speaker 1: as well as many other sports programs in New York City. Brandon,
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Speaker 1: good morning, Good morning, Thanks for having We are good.
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Speaker 1: A little worried about this game on Sunday. Not going
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Speaker 1: to lie. But we talk about this earlier in the
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Speaker 1: show a month ago. We said, all right, this stretch
13:03
Speaker 1: of schedule is favorable to the Jaguars. We did not
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Speaker 1: think the Giants were gonna come in here five and one.
13:08
Speaker 1: I'm sure you get this question all the time, what
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Speaker 1: is going on with the Giants? How did this happen?
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Speaker 1: I don't know. There's something in the water around here.
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Speaker 1: When you're talking about having one of the worst defenses,
13:18
Speaker 1: I mean offenses in the NFL, but you still managed
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Speaker 1: to put together a five and one record. Uh, is
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Speaker 1: either something in the water or you can just accredited
13:27
Speaker 1: to Brian Dable, Joe Shane and this new Giants regime.
13:31
Speaker 1: I mean I talked to players all the time, former players,
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Speaker 1: and they just talk about how the culture has shifted.
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Speaker 1: You're seeing a shift and demeanor within the players within
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Speaker 1: the organization, from inside the training facility to just there
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Speaker 1: on game day, the game day culture, and the team
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Speaker 1: says it at each time, from the running backs coach
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Speaker 1: to the head coach, they say, this is a fourth
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Speaker 1: quarter team, this deep that not only the defense, but
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Speaker 1: this Giants offensive defense. This team wants to stay within
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Speaker 1: one possession the tired game because if they're gonna have
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Speaker 1: the ball at some point in that fourth quarter, they're
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Speaker 1: gonna find a way to tie it up or go ahead.
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Speaker 1: The team but buys in. They bought in, They buy in,
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Speaker 1: and this team feels feels as though they can be anyone.
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Speaker 1: Morn of Brandon the Giants and former general manager George Young,
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Speaker 1: the late great George Young. They were the team with
14:20
Speaker 1: the planet theory, remember that that there's only so many
14:22
Speaker 1: big men on the planet that can move. You gotta
14:25
Speaker 1: get them while you can get him. And the Giants
14:26
Speaker 1: did that with the draft this year. Uh, with the
14:28
Speaker 1: offensive lineman and the defensive lineman. How are they contributing?
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Speaker 1: And isn't what you're seeing from a five and one
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Speaker 1: team really the fact that they're winning the battle at
14:36
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage and they haven't in recent years. Yeah,
14:40
Speaker 1: And the thing is, haven't even been healthy, especially on
14:43
Speaker 1: the different line of scrimmage. You're thinking about it. We
14:46
Speaker 1: just got big cat Leonard Williams back after him suffering
14:50
Speaker 1: that m c L injury, and then also Cabon and Thibodeau,
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Speaker 1: the number five draft pick UH in the draft this year. Uh.
14:57
Speaker 1: He was out the first couple of games, but you
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Speaker 1: saw how big that he came up UH in the
15:01
Speaker 1: biggest moment of the game against the Ravens with that
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Speaker 1: strap that sack fumble, his first sack of the year.
15:08
Speaker 1: Jah Ward. As you see on the screen right there,
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Speaker 1: number fifty five, he's been playing lights out and he's
15:13
Speaker 1: a guy that when he was brought over and signed
15:15
Speaker 1: to come with Wink Martindale, people were like he was
15:19
Speaker 1: what we call a hunt signing. People like, who is
15:21
Speaker 1: this guy? But Wink Martindale has got the Giants defensive
15:24
Speaker 1: line playing above and beyond what they look like on paper.
15:28
Speaker 1: I mean, Dexter Lawrence was a guy who people were
15:31
Speaker 1: ready to kind of get him out of here. Now
15:33
Speaker 1: he leads the team with sacks, with four sacks in
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Speaker 1: the year. Wink Martindale is finding ways to apply pressure
15:40
Speaker 1: to to opposing quarterbacks and he's finding ways to get
15:44
Speaker 1: guys in position. And I think one thing that's better
15:47
Speaker 1: on the Giants team this year is tackling. We're seeing
15:50
Speaker 1: a lot of guys rally to the ball. You're seeing
15:52
Speaker 1: hats on the football, guys making open field tackles, and
15:55
Speaker 1: that's is what keep is keeping them in the game.
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Speaker 1: They're not making too many mistakes and the plying pressure
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Speaker 1: on a quarterback. It's rare to see a guy who
16:04
Speaker 1: you look at and say he's just the best player
16:05
Speaker 1: in the field. But it seems like se Kwon Barkley
16:09
Speaker 1: has been that. Uh tell me about his year, has
16:13
Speaker 1: comeback from this injury and just what he means to
16:16
Speaker 1: what's going on up there. He is as advertised. He
16:21
Speaker 1: is as advertised. I mean this year, he's just you
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Speaker 1: can you've heard within the media how he said Pete
16:26
Speaker 1: telling people to keep that same energy or to stay
16:29
Speaker 1: on that side. Since he stepped into Quick Diagnostics training
16:33
Speaker 1: facility for offseason workouts, he has been a man possessed.
16:37
Speaker 1: And I go back and I tell this story a
16:39
Speaker 1: lot like you. I don't know if you guys remember
16:41
Speaker 1: during the training camp there was that big skirmish, the
16:44
Speaker 1: big brawl, and people kind of say that He started
16:47
Speaker 1: it in a way because he lowered his head on
16:50
Speaker 1: lord his shoulder and finished a run against cornerback Aaron
16:53
Speaker 1: Robinson and the defense got mad at that. Well, fast
16:58
Speaker 1: forward or rewind to week one when he lowered his
17:02
Speaker 1: shoulder and ran through some defenders to get in the
17:05
Speaker 1: end zone. Not only on his touchdown but the two
17:07
Speaker 1: point conversion. You're seeing him finish runs. So Tom Coughland
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Speaker 1: used to say a lot back in my rookie year,
17:14
Speaker 1: practice how you play, and that's exactly how to six
17:17
Speaker 1: has been doing. He's been practicing not only with verse
17:20
Speaker 1: through the line of skirmmage, but finishing runs. And you
17:23
Speaker 1: just see everyone from from the Giants, not only in
17:26
Speaker 1: house but fans so excited about what he's doing because
17:30
Speaker 1: he's been a guy taken as high as he was
17:33
Speaker 1: in that draft pick uh in that draft. He's taken
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Speaker 1: a lot of criticism, but a lot of people have
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Speaker 1: stood behind him and he's showing why he was the
17:41
Speaker 1: number two of an overall pick. And Brandon staying on offense,
17:46
Speaker 1: there were there were some questions last year with quarterback
17:48
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones and and now there doesn't seem to be
17:50
Speaker 1: many questions at all. About him. How is the confidence
17:52
Speaker 1: grown with the quarterback? Oh, you know, young Eli is
17:57
Speaker 1: Young Eli is walking around with with a swam tag.
18:00
Speaker 1: You know it might be one of those polo shirt
18:02
Speaker 1: and khaki pants type swags, but you know that's him,
18:05
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones. I feel as though, you know, he was
18:08
Speaker 1: obviously a pick that a lot of people were confused about.
18:12
Speaker 1: He didn't have the proper structure and coaching around him
18:16
Speaker 1: for him to develop during his younger years. But you're
18:20
Speaker 1: seeing what you're seeing the impact offensive coordinator like a
18:24
Speaker 1: Mike Kafka and uh and and the offensive mind like
18:27
Speaker 1: a Brian Dable is doing the impact they're having with him,
18:31
Speaker 1: not only with his decision making, but the time, the
18:34
Speaker 1: timing that's going off in his head in the pocket.
18:37
Speaker 1: You're seeing Daniel Jones is the second leading rusher on
18:40
Speaker 1: this team, being mobile and mobile enough, keeping his eyes
18:44
Speaker 1: down the field, and he's doing it with a bunch
18:47
Speaker 1: of me that receivers, you know, a bunch of under
18:50
Speaker 1: Some of these guys are undrafted, some of these guys
18:52
Speaker 1: are are are are unknown. It's while the Giants are
18:56
Speaker 1: five and one right now. You would love to see
18:58
Speaker 1: if Darius Tony or some an explosive back that can
19:02
Speaker 1: take a five yard catch and turn into a fifty
19:05
Speaker 1: yard or sixty yard. But right now he's doing it
19:08
Speaker 1: with possession type receivers and he's only making them better.
19:12
Speaker 1: And I think that that he's missing that one piece
19:14
Speaker 1: to really truly reintroduce himself, not only within the Giants culture,
19:20
Speaker 1: but when with within this NFL as well. Going to
19:23
Speaker 1: be a very interesting game on Sunday as the five
19:26
Speaker 1: and one Giants come to Jackson to play the Jaguars
19:28
Speaker 1: at home. Brandon, thank you so much for your time
19:30
Speaker 1: this morning. Thank you for having me do I just
19:35
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20:07
Speaker 1: what are you thinking? Well, I'm thinking about to move
20:09
Speaker 1: at corner and do you make it or not? I mean,
20:11
Speaker 1: do you leave Shack Griffin who is the highest paid
20:15
Speaker 1: player on your roster this year at sixteen point four
20:17
Speaker 1: million dollars. Right signed that three or forty million dollar deal,
20:21
Speaker 1: but he struggled, and not just last week. Remember he
20:23
Speaker 1: gave up that long touchdown in the fourth quarter in
20:26
Speaker 1: Washington that led to Washington Redskins come from behind win
20:31
Speaker 1: um when the Jaguars had a comfortable margin there. So
20:34
Speaker 1: he's not played well this season at all. And on
20:37
Speaker 1: Monday night, Brandon Staley, the head coach of the Chargers,
20:40
Speaker 1: after watching J. C. Jackson, who got an eighty two
20:43
Speaker 1: million dollar contract in the spring, in Game six, watched
20:48
Speaker 1: him give up two touchdowns, take a pass interference penalty
20:51
Speaker 1: that cost him major yardage, and he benched him at
20:54
Speaker 1: halftime and Mike Davis went in the game and they
20:57
Speaker 1: played better. That's not likely to last. You don't invest
21:00
Speaker 1: two million dollars in a guy. But he benched him
21:03
Speaker 1: because they needed something different. So it's a valid question
21:07
Speaker 1: to me. It's the story of the week. What do
21:08
Speaker 1: they do with this secondary John? We talked about it
21:10
Speaker 1: in the last segment. How do you force teams to
21:14
Speaker 1: hold the ball a little bit longer if they don't
21:16
Speaker 1: think your corners can cover the short quick passing game.
21:19
Speaker 1: Do you make the change this week like Brandon's Daley did,
21:23
Speaker 1: or do you stand with your guy and see if
21:25
Speaker 1: he can come and flip the switch this week? Yeah?
21:28
Speaker 1: I don't know which will happen. I mean I could
21:30
Speaker 1: see both sides. Uh. I always go back to that, Um,
21:36
Speaker 1: if you're gonna do it, make sure Trey Herndon can
21:39
Speaker 1: do it better. So that is what I don't know
21:43
Speaker 1: how the coaches feel about. I know they like him, um,
21:45
Speaker 1: So I think it's a it's an obvious storyline. We'll
21:49
Speaker 1: see what happens with it. I think I could see
21:51
Speaker 1: them going with Tray Hernon just because you know what
21:54
Speaker 1: you have with Trey Hernon. This isn't a guy that
21:55
Speaker 1: you have questions about. Trey Hernon. Is he a starter
21:57
Speaker 1: for the whole season? Maybe not, But this is a
21:59
Speaker 1: guy that you can depend on. I think you sent
22:02
Speaker 1: him a week. I think you get them just everything
22:04
Speaker 1: to settle down, Just calm everything down, and you get
22:07
Speaker 1: yes with the cap space and that cap pit. You're
22:09
Speaker 1: not gonna send him the entire year, but try something
22:12
Speaker 1: different for a week. You know, with Trey Hernon, I
22:14
Speaker 1: trust that he can go in and do his job.
22:16
Speaker 1: Something's gotta change, yea, And yeah, the question is is
22:19
Speaker 1: it this week or not? Interesting? We'll pay attention to it, John,
22:22
Speaker 1: What do you think him? Um, what's the most significant
22:25
Speaker 1: stat moving forward? The fact that Jays have no takeaways
22:28
Speaker 1: in the last two games, or that they were three
22:31
Speaker 1: for three in the red zone sending against the Colts
22:32
Speaker 1: and it's it all depends on what they do moving forward.
22:38
Speaker 1: I think they are going to drop off a little
22:41
Speaker 1: bit in their takeaway pace from weeks one and four.
22:45
Speaker 1: They already have obviously, but I don't know they're going
22:47
Speaker 1: to maintain that because it seems like teams have figured
22:50
Speaker 1: out a way to combat what they were doing early.
22:54
Speaker 1: To me, the most significant stat that we really haven't
22:57
Speaker 1: talked about because they lost on Sunday, they went three
23:01
Speaker 1: or three in the red zone. Um, if this offense
23:06
Speaker 1: is at six percent in the red zone, they have
23:10
Speaker 1: really moved the ball well for the most part throughout
23:12
Speaker 1: the course of the season. In six games. It's a
23:14
Speaker 1: stature using quick thoughts. This week, they have been remarkably consistent.
23:19
Speaker 1: Every drive they've had at least I mean every game
23:21
Speaker 1: they've had at least three drives over fifty yards. I
23:23
Speaker 1: think they've had twenty four of those for the season.
23:26
Speaker 1: They're going to the top of the league in ten
23:28
Speaker 1: play drives. Yeah, that's a lot of extended drives. So
23:32
Speaker 1: it feels to me like that's a part of this
23:34
Speaker 1: team you can rely on. Now. They are going to
23:37
Speaker 1: move the ball offensively. I see no reason to think
23:40
Speaker 1: they won't. Can they stick it in the red zone?
23:42
Speaker 1: If there are three of three, two of three, three
23:46
Speaker 1: or four type stuff in the red zone the rest
23:47
Speaker 1: of the season, they are going to turn this around.
23:50
Speaker 1: If they keep that stat going. I think that's really
23:53
Speaker 1: important for this team. We talked in training camp, where
23:55
Speaker 1: were the points going to come from? Right? If you're
23:56
Speaker 1: gonna play in the a f C with these quarterbacks
23:58
Speaker 1: and you're playing the Broncos with Russell Wilson and what
24:02
Speaker 1: we've seen Derek Carr be able to do. And obviously
24:05
Speaker 1: we go after that with Kansas City and then the
24:07
Speaker 1: week after that with Baltimore. You're gonna have these teams
24:09
Speaker 1: or you're gonna score. So I think the red zone
24:11
Speaker 1: is more important than the takeaways because in this game,
24:14
Speaker 1: which is built towards offense by the way, scoring is
24:16
Speaker 1: down in the league, and that was a part of
24:18
Speaker 1: the conversation yesterday at the NFL's owners meetings. Right, Um,
24:21
Speaker 1: so they don't want that, they want to score. So
24:25
Speaker 1: if that's the case, you better be able to score,
24:27
Speaker 1: because that's what this is leaning towards. And to see
24:30
Speaker 1: him find efficiency in the red zone is a very
24:32
Speaker 1: good sign. It was a low scoring team in the
24:34
Speaker 1: NFL last year, their fift this year. It's not where
24:37
Speaker 1: Doug wants to be. But considering through six games, if
24:41
Speaker 1: you think about, um, what this team was last year,
24:45
Speaker 1: I think they scored more than twenty four times. They've
24:49
Speaker 1: been five I'm sorry, they've been over twenty five times
24:53
Speaker 1: already this year. It's uh And I feel like that's
24:57
Speaker 1: the first steps of a building towards what the identity
25:01
Speaker 1: of this team is going to be at some point,
25:03
Speaker 1: especially since two weeks ago against the Houston Texans, this
25:06
Speaker 1: the storyline of the week and especially on this Monday Show,
25:08
Speaker 1: is that they couldn't score on the red zone and
25:10
Speaker 1: that that was something that made them lose that game.
25:12
Speaker 1: And even they've been moving the ball. For a young team,
25:18
Speaker 1: the Colts, because they have a new quarterback, had struggled
25:21
Speaker 1: in the red zone until Sunday that that usually comes
25:24
Speaker 1: together the fact that they are moving the ball between
25:27
Speaker 1: the twenties consistently compared to what they were last year.
25:30
Speaker 1: It's a remarkable turnaround that I think people may have
25:32
Speaker 1: forgotten a little bit, and mindus are that is, who
25:35
Speaker 1: did the Jaguars miss more on Sunday. We're going to
25:37
Speaker 1: pay attention if either of these guys can play this
25:39
Speaker 1: upcoming week. Marvin Jones Jr. Or fully fought to Kassi,
25:43
Speaker 1: who do the Jaguars miss more in their loss? And
25:45
Speaker 1: we're hopefully going to have both of these guys back
25:47
Speaker 1: this week. I'll say Marvin Jones in the second quarter.
25:50
Speaker 1: They didn't seem to miss him much late, especially on
25:52
Speaker 1: that eight team play drive where I think if he's
25:55
Speaker 1: on the field, he's an obvious target. He's a guy
25:57
Speaker 1: that the quarterback feels so comfortable with um. But they
26:00
Speaker 1: struggled to move the ball. There was those two drives
26:02
Speaker 1: at the end of the first half where the Jaguars
26:05
Speaker 1: really struggled and set up those two scoring drives for
26:08
Speaker 1: the Colts. And if you've got Marvin Jones getting open,
26:11
Speaker 1: perhaps that makes a change. They obviously didn't miss Fatukazi,
26:14
Speaker 1: who's not a pass rusher at all. Because the Colts
26:17
Speaker 1: without Jonathan Taylor, we're not going to succeed in the
26:20
Speaker 1: ground game. So I will say more of a Jones.
26:22
Speaker 1: I think moving forward, you there's a chance that they
26:25
Speaker 1: will miss Dacasi more if he's not there. I think
26:27
Speaker 1: both these guys will be back, but you need if
26:29
Speaker 1: they were both out, I think you would miss Dacasi
26:32
Speaker 1: more the long term because Tim Jones um is interesting.
26:38
Speaker 1: He made a really nice play on the ball yesterday
26:40
Speaker 1: at me and night yester day it's Sunday. Uh, He's
26:43
Speaker 1: got some potential that if Marvin wasn't available for the
26:46
Speaker 1: entire season, Tim Jones I think over the course of
26:49
Speaker 1: time could come up and supplement that. I don't know
26:52
Speaker 1: that they have a replacement long term for Fridacasi. And
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27:26
Speaker 1: segment on a Wednesday, as we get ready to go
27:28
Speaker 1: back on the practice field. It is cold outside. We'll
27:31
Speaker 1: be wearing sweatshirts on the practice field to day is
27:35
Speaker 1: it's coming out as the Jaguars get ready for a
27:37
Speaker 1: Giants team here on Sunday, a home game finally, and
27:40
Speaker 1: this is gonna be a busy stretch because the Jaguars
27:43
Speaker 1: will play a home game. They will then go to
27:44
Speaker 1: London next week. We're used having a bye week after London.
27:47
Speaker 1: Then they play another home game here in Jacksonville against
27:50
Speaker 1: the Raiders. This is a lot which makes it an
27:53
Speaker 1: important game. I mean we say every week it's an
27:54
Speaker 1: important game. But if you want to find a way
27:56
Speaker 1: to start building a bit of momentum winning a home game,
27:59
Speaker 1: which seemed to be it um, I'm gonna talk to
28:01
Speaker 1: Brentson Buckner after practice today, the defensive line coach, because
28:05
Speaker 1: we say Kwan Barkley coming in here. Those three guys
28:07
Speaker 1: inside hopefully fought to Kassi, but Roy Roberts and Harris
28:10
Speaker 1: and Devon Hamilton's are gonna have to be able to
28:14
Speaker 1: hold the point and and it's tough because they've got
28:16
Speaker 1: two first round picks to tackle right Nevin Neil this
28:19
Speaker 1: year's Andrew Thomas a couple of years ago from Georgia.
28:22
Speaker 1: This is a big challenge. Well, it's an important game
28:24
Speaker 1: in the sense that I get that people don't want
28:27
Speaker 1: to consider London a home game, but on their schedule,
28:30
Speaker 1: in terms of how you play it, it is a
28:32
Speaker 1: home game. And so they have three home games in
28:35
Speaker 1: a row against the Giants who five and one. I
28:40
Speaker 1: believe teams will win close games. Are good teams, but
28:43
Speaker 1: they've been playing close games, so you would think that
28:45
Speaker 1: Jay Wars will have a chance in this game. At
28:47
Speaker 1: the end of the game, Denver and the Raiders after
28:50
Speaker 1: that have not been so far what people fear, the
28:54
Speaker 1: the awesome a f C West is going to be
28:56
Speaker 1: the best division of all time, It really hasn't been.
28:59
Speaker 1: So these are three game games that on paper you
29:02
Speaker 1: ought to be in. This is not the Chiefs, who
29:05
Speaker 1: which I'm not sure that this is a team to
29:08
Speaker 1: be ready for the Chiefs. These three games should be
29:11
Speaker 1: so if if they are what they think they are,
29:14
Speaker 1: which is which is a team that has been close
29:16
Speaker 1: and a team is about to break through. You can
29:18
Speaker 1: break through in these three games. There are matchups that
29:20
Speaker 1: favor the Jaguars, right, at least they match up well
29:24
Speaker 1: with the Giants, right. The Giants run the ball, the
29:26
Speaker 1: Jaguars stop the run. The Giants don't stop the run.
29:28
Speaker 1: The Jaguars run the ball. Um. There's some matchups individually
29:32
Speaker 1: that you can see that really makes sense. There's not
29:34
Speaker 1: a game breaking wide receiver. I mean, I get Kadarius
29:36
Speaker 1: Tony was drafted to be that. He hasn't proven to
29:38
Speaker 1: be that yet. There's some things they can do this
29:40
Speaker 1: week to work matchups in their favor. I think there's
29:44
Speaker 1: matchups in the Broncos game, Raiders game. There's some tough matchups.
29:48
Speaker 1: Davante Adams and Darren Waller are two guys. Did everyone
29:51
Speaker 1: have trouble stopping? So you could use these next two
29:54
Speaker 1: weeks to play well and and get right if you're
29:57
Speaker 1: Shack Griffin right and a couple other guys. Don't mean
30:00
Speaker 1: you just pick on him, but he's just the most
30:02
Speaker 1: obvious example because as you go towards Kansas City, what
30:06
Speaker 1: they do, we've not seen this team do well against. Yes,
30:10
Speaker 1: certainly looming that game, plus the odds makers like the
30:12
Speaker 1: Jags in this game, and that means everything. Well, the
30:14
Speaker 1: odds makers are right a lot, you know. More So,
30:17
Speaker 1: we didn't used to talk about the odds right. There
30:19
Speaker 1: was a time where we didn't talk about Vegas and
30:22
Speaker 1: betting and gambling in any of that. So I didn't
30:25
Speaker 1: pay as much attention to it until recently, where all
30:27
Speaker 1: of a sudden, now it's part and parcel of professional
30:30
Speaker 1: sports in the NFL in particular, they are they get
30:33
Speaker 1: it right. It's surprising. It was surprising Monday morn when
30:36
Speaker 1: I saw I said, huh, what do you mean? They
30:39
Speaker 1: must know something I don't know. I think the Jaguars
30:42
Speaker 1: were obviously the number one team in the draft order
30:45
Speaker 1: because they had the worst record. The Giants came in
30:48
Speaker 1: at number five, and I think at number seven because
30:49
Speaker 1: they had two first round picks. Brian Dabble has done
30:52
Speaker 1: an amazing job at getting this team to play well,
30:54
Speaker 1: and obviously Wink Martindale and the defense have they've got talent.
30:58
Speaker 1: Jaguars aren't so far away from them that they can't
31:00
Speaker 1: line up and play for sure, right I know people
31:02
Speaker 1: are looking at Sae Kwon Barkley. Jaguars run defense has
31:05
Speaker 1: been good this year. Let's see if they will be
31:06
Speaker 1: on Sunday's going to be an interesting game Sunday against
31:08
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