Latest / Becker’s Healthcare Digital Health + Health IT / Craig Richardville, Chief Digital and Information Officer at Intermountain Health
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- 0:00- This is Laura Dedo with the Becker's Healthcare Podcast.
- 0:03I'm thrilled today to be joined by Craig Richville,
- 0:06chief Digital and Information
- 0:07Officer at Intermountain Health.
- 0:08Craig, it's a pleasure to have you on the podcast today,
- 0:11- Laura.
- 0:12Thanks for having me.
- 0:14- Now, I'm excited to learn more about
- 0:15what you're doing at Intermountain, and certainly it's
- 0:17always a pleasure listening to you and having conversations
- 0:20because I'm inspired by the way you approach your work
- 0:23and, um, really some of the innovative things that you do.
- 0:26But before we dive into that discussion,
- 0:28and for those who maybe are just
- 0:30now subscribing the Becker's Healthcare Podcast,
- 0:32can you introduce yourself
- 0:33and tell us a little about your background?
- 0:37- Sure. Well, as you mentioned, I am the TE Digital
- 0:39and Information Officer at Intermountain Health.
- 0:42For those of you that don't know Intermountain Health,
- 0:45it's a integrated delivery system.
- 0:47Uh, we operate in seven states.
- 0:49We have 34 hospitals, hundreds of clinics, thousands
- 0:54of employee caregivers.
- 0:56We have 1.1 million members, uh,
- 0:59and we have a total revenue of about 16 billion.
- 1:03Now, in terms of myself, I started my career
- 1:06at Marathon Oil Company back in Ohio.
- 1:10I then went to ProMedica Health for 11 years at Atrium now,
- 1:14Health for 21 years.
- 1:16I've been in this role for five years.
- 1:19Um, I'm married to a beautiful wife.
- 1:21I have three wonderful sons.
- 1:23Uh, they're all in the healthcare IT space.
- 1:25So my oldest, uh, is with an early company, early startup.
- 1:30Uh, my middle physician is a,
- 1:31or my middle, uh, son is a physician,
- 1:34and my third son works at Advocate Health.
- 1:39- Well, that's amazing to hear.
- 1:40And you know, what an influence that you must have had
- 1:43for them as they're, you know, choosing their careers
- 1:45and they all go into healthcare and medicine
- 1:48and really, you know, uh, this growing field.
- 1:52- Yeah, it, it's, it's fun.
- 1:54I mean, our conversations are great.
- 1:56I learned so much from them and,
- 1:58and their, uh, uh, networking and their experiences,
- 2:01and I could take some of that
- 2:03and apply it to, uh, my work here.
- 2:05- Oh, that's awesome to hear.
- 2:06What a, a a great situation to be in, you know,
- 2:09in your family, um, you can really relate
- 2:12to and connect with on that level.
- 2:13And along those lines, what are some of the biggest issues
- 2:15that you're following in healthcare right now?
- 2:17What is top of mind
- 2:18and keeps coming up in those conversations?
- 2:22- Yeah, there's, uh, there, there's a lot
- 2:24of opportunity in healthcare.
- 2:25There's a lot of, um,
- 2:27stress happening in healthcare, as we all know.
- 2:31I want to share the two system initiatives
- 2:33that we're focused on at Intermountain Health.
- 2:36There's value-based care.
- 2:38This truly is, uh, changing the way that we,
- 2:41um, deliver healthcare.
- 2:43As we start to move things upstream, start to keep people,
- 2:47well look at early prevention
- 2:49and also really transcend the traditional growth boundaries,
- 2:53you know, be able to touch patients
- 2:54and members in ways we haven't done in the past.
- 2:58That whole transition to value-based care
- 3:00is a very important, um, uh,
- 3:03cornerstone for Intermountain Health.
- 3:05And the second is simplicity.
- 3:07Simplicity for us is to embrace the cutting edge technology.
- 3:12We really want to enrich the experience for our consumers,
- 3:15whether they're patients or whether they're members
- 3:18or whether they're caregivers.
- 3:20And it real just reimagine our work,
- 3:22become a lot more efficient and just improve the experience.
- 3:26So if we're looking at how we want to, um, shape
- 3:29and be part of the future of healthcare,
- 3:32it's really focused on the value-based care
- 3:34and simplify all the processes that we have.
- 3:39- Well, that's great to hear. And you know,
- 3:41certainly really cool to think through.
- 3:43Um, you know, what a great opportunity
- 3:45that we have right now, like you were saying, there's
- 3:47so many different, um, challenges,
- 3:50but also really great solutions
- 3:52and technology in the evolution of how healthcare delivery,
- 3:55um, really benefits not only the patients and communities,
- 3:59but also caregivers at the same time.
- 4:01And, and given all of the, these things we talked about,
- 4:04and you mentioned in, in terms of, um, big initiatives,
- 4:07what are you most excited about
- 4:08for the next year and what makes you nervous?
- 4:12- Yeah, there, there's really two things.
- 4:14One ties into each of the two above.
- 4:16So on the value-based care, for example, the thing
- 4:20that I'm excited about, but also very nervous
- 4:23how the healthcare is gonna get reformed in terms of the
- 4:26redi, redistribution of the dollar.
- 4:28And, uh, when you look at healthcare,
- 4:30you've got the provider side, you've got the,
- 4:32the payer side, you've got pharmaceuticals, et cetera.
- 4:36And, and really what we need to do is start to shift, um,
- 4:40a lot of those services over into
- 4:42that prevention and wellness.
- 4:43So if we can start to, uh, incentivize, uh, providers
- 4:48and plans to move upstream, that would be a great change
- 4:53to transition, uh, for us.
- 4:55Secondly is artificial intelligence.
- 4:58You know, um, been in tech, you know,
- 5:00for over 30 years in healthcare tech.
- 5:03And on the artificial intelligence side,
- 5:05we have the opportunities to greatly assist our workforce.
- 5:09We can be more precise, we can enhance the efficiency,
- 5:13enrich the experience.
- 5:15Those are all things that, uh, we need to embrace
- 5:18and bring full light into, um, our processes and workflows.
- 5:23And on the same side of that, um, there's a nervous part.
- 5:26There's some bias both into some
- 5:27of the newer tech that's coming out.
- 5:29There's some big consistencies in that.
- 5:32Um, there's some reg regulations
- 5:34that might limit our potential, um,
- 5:37to bring this into our workforce
- 5:39and into the, the hands of our patients.
- 5:42So both of those, for me, the redistribution of the dollar
- 5:46and utilizing the advanced
- 5:48or um, artificial intelligence would be the two things
- 5:51that are gonna be very exciting to watch
- 5:54and have us, um, progress, but also was kind of nervous
- 5:57because we don't really know
- 5:58what the outcome is gonna be yet.
- 6:01- I think that's such a, a really great point,
- 6:03and definitely I, I love your thought process
- 6:06around moving more of the healthcare services upstream
- 6:09and then leveraging artificial
- 6:10intelligence where it makes sense.
- 6:12Um, you know, to really aid, I, I guess,
- 6:15those goals in the healthcare space
- 6:17for you at Intermountain, when you look at, um, you know,
- 6:20kind of the intersection of
- 6:22how technology can influence those things
- 6:24and potentially support the organization's mission, both
- 6:27with value-based care, and then, you know,
- 6:29to looking at the workforce
- 6:30and looking at everything else
- 6:32that we've talked about today,
- 6:34what role does technology play?
- 6:36What role do you really see, um, yourself as well
- 6:39as your team being able to, um, play
- 6:42and contribute to some
- 6:43of these overall big goals for the health system?
- 6:48- Yeah, there, you know, when you,
- 6:49when you look at the technology piece
- 6:51and you see it in the other industries,
- 6:52and you're starting to see it a lot more within healthcare
- 6:56for sure, and it's the acceleration of the application of
- 6:59that technology into our space.
- 7:02So when you look at, um, from a replacement perspective,
- 7:06we're not looking to see how we can use some
- 7:08of this newer tech to replace what it really is.
- 7:11It's a, uh, some people call it a copilot,
- 7:14some people call it an assistant, really is something
- 7:17to help the human workforce to be more effective,
- 7:21to be more efficient,
- 7:23and in many cases, start to move some of
- 7:25that work toward our patients to give them the tools
- 7:28and the technology or to our members, give them the tools
- 7:32and the technology that's intuitive, easy to use.
- 7:36It allows them to do a lot of that work.
- 7:39Uh, and, and for the most part, that's what we really want
- 7:42to do from a patient or a consumer perspective.
- 7:45If you find yourself in the banking industry,
- 7:47you moved a lot of clerical task of going into a branch
- 7:51of cashing checks, um, withdrawing money, standing in lines.
- 7:56Now I, I do that all on my phone
- 7:58and I do it at three o'clock in the morning
- 8:00or whatever time that I want to.
- 8:02And that's the same thing when healthcare,
- 8:04we've gotta take some of these tasks
- 8:06that we've assigned in the processes that we've created,
- 8:09we start to really totally reimagine what that is
- 8:12and bring a lot of that back into the patients
- 8:15and to our members and allow them to be able to take control
- 8:18of their health and of their care as well.
- 8:22- That's such a great point. And especially thinking
- 8:24through, you know, how healthcare
- 8:27has really moved into a space where, um,
- 8:30the patients can drive so much more
- 8:32of their care journeys than they have in the past.
- 8:34It seems like a really cool opportunity
- 8:36and, um, you know, a lot of opportunity again
- 8:39for like innovation in that space
- 8:41and technology being the driver there.
- 8:46Um, from your perspective,
- 8:47what will you do you think the most effective healthcare
- 8:50leaders will need in order to be successful in the next two
- 8:52to three years or so, especially given these changes
- 8:54that are happening in healthcare?
- 8:57- Yeah, I, yeah, I would say there's several things.
- 9:00I think these are some, for some people
- 9:02that are the same characteristics and some they're new or,
- 9:04or need to be enhanced,
- 9:06but we gotta get a lot more adventurous.
- 9:08And that's going back to kind of reimagining exactly
- 9:10how we do work today.
- 9:13Uh, we have to be audacious.
- 9:15Uh, we need to be courageous, have
- 9:18to be very energetic in our work, excited about the work,
- 9:22uh, but also very humble, uh,
- 9:24and be able to continue to learn from others.
- 9:27I think the boldness and the courage are the things
- 9:29that we really need to do in the next couple of years.
- 9:31This is no longer, you know, a continuous improvement
- 9:35or a transitional, uh, change.
- 9:37It really is truly transformational.
- 9:39This is turning it upside down
- 9:41and let's start to change how healthcare is administered
- 9:45or delivered and finance, uh, in our country.
- 9:49Gotta start seeking going to places we've never gone before.
- 9:53Uh, but we have to do that in a very calculated way.
- 9:57Uh, we do have to make sure that we ensure the privacy
- 10:00of our data, uh, safety
- 10:02and security, the services that we provide.
- 10:06We have to use data to drive our decision making.
- 10:10Um, you know, we gotta put the tools in the hands
- 10:13of our patients as we mentioned earlier, and to our members
- 10:18and to our caregivers,
- 10:20and have them to be able to embrace where it's just another
- 10:23tool for them on their tool belt
- 10:24to help them do their job better.
- 10:28- That's amazing to hear.
- 10:29Well, Craig, thank you so much
- 10:30for joining us on the podcast today.
- 10:32This has been such a fascinating discussion
- 10:33and I look forward to connecting with you again soon.
- 10:37- Okay, thank you, Laura. Appreciate it.