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S4 99. The Majestic Mashup – Live Fringe Radio Network, Roundtable · Millennial Mustard Seed

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  Hello folks. This is Princess.
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  You are listening to the Millennial Mustard Seed Podcast.
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  Thanks for listening. Don't forget to share with your
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  friends. That's tough.
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  We're in a very tough spot. I think that what we're doing
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  right now is a great benefit and virtue because it's an end
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  around between this whole corrupt informational system,
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  media system. We claim to believe in a God who
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  spoke the universe into existence.
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  And literally raised himself from the dead.
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  And yet, we're not going to believe that anything else
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  exists in the spirit realm, even though His word tells us that
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  they do. Their bodies weren't permitted
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  to go to sleep like humans do, and they weren't permitted to go
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  to heaven. So they wander the earth.
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  You know, I've seen the. Eyes turn black to unknown
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  tongues being spoken. These giants would live way up
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  in the island. The young Braves.
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  The young men would hide up in the trees and wait for one of
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  these 12 footers to come walking down the path.
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  And they would jump on them and kill them, drag them back to the
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  village and the village would feast on the body.
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  Freedom. Then people start to get
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  weapons. They start to get armor.
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  They start to build cities. They start to fortify their
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  cities. Now God looks down and there's
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  violence everywhere. The battle, this war that we are
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  at is not against each other. It's against these
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  principalities and these rulers and these archons in the high
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  places. It's really worthwhile to read
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  the Bible yourself. Fear.
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  Is one of the primary drivers of mind control, because we have to
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  take every thought captive and resist fear.
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  You're going to have a testimony that is a justice case against
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  the Kingdom of Darkness. Welcome back to the Millennium
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  Mustard Seed Podcast. This is your host, Rod, and
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  thank you for being here with me.
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  You guys will be listening to a majestic mashup.
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  An epic collaboration done by Michael Basham of Spirit Wars
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  and Strange Clock podcast Fringe Radio Network and we are also
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  joined by Pete and Luke from the days of Noah and Rick from that
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  so fringy podcast. This was recorded on my end, but
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  we went live on 11/11 at 11:00 AM Eastern Standard Time on
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  Fringe Radio network. And we really just have this
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  awesome conversation where the premises of the show is based on
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  the questions you feel uncomfortable asking at your
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  local church building within the four walls.
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  We wanted to give you guys a safe place and let you know that
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  we don't have all the answers. But we're willing to take this
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  journey with you and ask the strange questions and have a
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  safe space where we can have dialogue and read the Bible and
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  ask all those weird things that really.
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  That most church buildings won't allow us to dive into, so I
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  really hope you guys enjoyed this episode.
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  I'm going to keep the intro real short and sweet so we can get
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  find one more person just like me and you.
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  I'm not going to waste any more time because I'm ready to dive
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  into this episode. You guys ready?
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  Let's go. Let's go.
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  Hitting that button. Don't make me hit this trigger.
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  I'm going to do it. OK, go.
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  We are here live on Friends Radio Network and it is an honor
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  to be back with such a majestic mashup.
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  Man, we got something really cool going on today because.
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  We're going to be asking questions and we have been
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  taking questions from listeners all around the world and around
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  the country about stuff that they feel uncomfortable asking
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  within the four walls within the church.
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  And this is an epic mashup. Obviously we got the one and
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  only Michael Basham here from Spirit Force Fringe Radio
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  Network. We're joined by Rick from that
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  So Fringe podcast and then we got brothers Pete and Luke from
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  the Days of Noah podcast. And this is Rod from the
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  Millennial Mustard Seed. Guys, it is an honor to be here.
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  It's this is cool. Good morning.
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  Good morning. Good morning, everybody.
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  We're live friendsradionetwork.com.
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  Thank you. Big honor.
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  Awesome. Buddy at I heard the rock.
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  Colorado. No, you said Appalachian.
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  Sorry, I'm messing it up already.
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  Smokies, yes. With everybody.
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  Yeah. I'm in Louisiana.
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  We're on the edge of the Smoky Mountains here been been here
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  for two years. Before this was Hawaii, before
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  that was Taiwan and it's been it's been awesome just doing
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  doing lots of shows and then watching new shows pop up that
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  it's like it's like the it's, I don't know it's like the end of
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  Avengers end game or something coming on to see all of your
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  shows and it's it's so cool. I can't wait to introduce you
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  guys to the audience and get to know you guys better.
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  Yeah, this is a lot of fun. I'm glad you guys put this
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  together because you know, we we're all having these questions
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  in our minds. We're all talking about this
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  stuff. And and this is Rick with that
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  So Fringy podcast, we talk a lot about, you know, all of these
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  questions that people have and all of these weird things that
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  are going on in the world right now.
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  And we're all trying to kind of just nail it down and be like,
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  OK, what is really going on out there?
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  And what is, you know, what's up with these aliens?
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  What's up with these cryptids? What's up with all this stuff?
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  And for those of us that are believers, we begin to start
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  asking the question, like, how does this fit in with my
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  worldview? You know, how does this fit in
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  with the Bible? How does this make sense to me
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  and my friends? And but you know, it's too
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  crazy, right? It's too fringe.
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  So we can't ask those questions. It makes people uncomfortable at
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  church, you know? Well, you know, the idea of this
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  podcast is just to kick the doors open.
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  You know, just like, whatever. We don't care about all of these
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  social things where you're not allowed to do this and you're
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  not allowed to do that. We want to just talk.
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  Yeah, yeah, I'm, I'm up here in Wisconsin.
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  Luke and I grew up here and and like he said, he's in Louisiana
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  and. So yeah we've been doing the
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  days of NOAA podcast now for about a year this month I think
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  it is 50 some episodes already and got to know Rod this past
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  year and and introducing us to to you guys this morning is
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  great. So yeah, it's great to be here
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  and as as I kind of think of like the elevator pitch or
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  sentence for. The inevitable when you tell
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  someone you do a show or a podcast, they're like, whoa,
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  what's it about? Because they're always
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  intrigued. You know that you do a podcast
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  even though there's millions of them out there for a few for.
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  Yeah. But I I think, well, how do I
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  answer this in a concise way? And I think, I think for us it's
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  ancient history and biblical prophecy and and Rick you said
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  earlier about making connections.
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  And so, so like the the tag line that I put in our description is
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  uncovering the past, connecting the present.
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  So there's that word again, and then discerning the future
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  because it's about what's coming.
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  Wow, I love that. That's that's very.
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  I always struggle to introduce my show.
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  I'm always like, well, you know everything that gets you banned.
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  You know first of all and probably called you crazy and
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  FBI weren't checked thing all those things.
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  But no, I I feel like I'm learning from you guys how to
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  present to this new generation. This is like everybody's talking
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  about this stuff that used to be conspiratorial.
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  And is it my turn or Rod, did you are you going to go last?
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  Or, yeah, I'll go last. Yeah, absolutely.
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  OK. I just wanted to answer what
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  y'all have been saying, but just to double check for everybody.
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  We've got Luke and Pete from the Days of Noah podcast and we have
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  the That's So Fringy podcast with Rick Copeland and and I'm
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  Michael Basham with Spirit Wars and Spirit Force Fringe Radio
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  Network and a host of other shows Strange O'clock podcast
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  and I love collaborating with other people Omega Man Radio and
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  just it's been I've just been a listener I'm just like a major
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  nerd to listen to podcast since 2004 and travelling the world
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  And then I had enough crazy things happen that it was like
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  we need to do a show about the cult that I was in or about
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  aliens or book of Enoch. And then people were like no you
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  need to do it. And then finally, Johnny McMahon
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  handed me the Fringe Radio Network.
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  And he's like, look, let's do this.
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  And then I got all these people mad, 'cause I had all these
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  crazy people that I brought on my show.
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  So the first like 30 episodes are really, really edgy.
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  And like, like even I wouldn't agree with a lot of it, but
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  like, LA Marzulli left and all these people got mad and left
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  and and I'm like, I'm sorry, but Johnny stood up for me.
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  And he's like, Michael stays on the network, you know?
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  So I I've never experienced that level of camaraderie and love
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  And and you know years later after like lawsuits and trauma
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  and traveling the world and getting married in Hawaii and
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  having two beautiful kids and whatever, all this crazy stuff
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  happened and now getting involved in local politics,
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  which I've never expected to do. Kind of seeing like a front row
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  seat of like a small town in America getting taken over by
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  communists. I mean that's what we've been
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  dealing with here. I'm just now I'm like, I'm so
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  busy that I'm just so thankful to see you guys take take this.
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  Like, OK, here. Here's your father's lightsaber.
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  Take this. Go fight Darth Vader.
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  I'm getting too old for this kind of thing.
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  You know? I do my show in the car
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  sometimes. I'm just like, I know there's
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  the need to have a Daily Show, but I don't have like the set up
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  to even do this like regularly enough.
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  So I really appreciate, you know, meeting you guys and I'm
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  definitely going to be listening to all y'all shows.
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  So anyway, I was a little long but passing the torch over to to
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  ride. Whatever.
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  You want to do. And man, I just appreciate and
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  enjoy each one of you guys here. Like Michael, what you do is
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  phenomenal, like the need for content, for sound minds to be
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  in the Airways, because there's a million messages and a million
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  signals going out, causing a lot of confusion and chaos.
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  So when we have a sound mind, who is not afraid to say,
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  listen, I'm going to take my thoughts captive into the
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  obedience of Christ. I'm going to go the places where
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  I don't care if you support me because I'm going here or not.
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  I'm going to read the depths of the scripture.
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  I'm going to ask the tough questions.
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  I'm going to stand up and be unashamed about what I believe,
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  and I'm going to represent the people that have been neglected
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  and misled. So I appreciate each one of you
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  because each one of you do that on your shows.
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  Now what I was saying off air before we went live is like we
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  all kind of dovetail each other, but each show has this unique
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  kind of really cool, niche perspective.
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  But then the wires get crossed and you can see, Oh my gosh,
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  everything. Rick was just working on these
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  last three episodes, literally bolts and connects to Pete's
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  episode. He just dropped and I just did a
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  big overview episode with it and like you can start to see, wow,
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  all this connects together. This is like this is what's
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  going on in our day and age that.
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  The spirit of God is allowing people to get equipped with
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  wisdom and understanding because we have been neglected by the
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  building. And why we're here today is to
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  talk about the tough things that we can't talk about at the
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  church. And we want you guys as the
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  listeners to understand this. You guys hear me?
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  You have a place here with us? To ask the weird questions, you
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  have a place here with us. To dive into the strange.
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  Whatever you want to deal with. If there.
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  If your pastor won't answer it, or that you get dropped by the
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  wayside or neglected, you're not going to get treated that way
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  with me. And I know that these other guys
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  here are genuine and they're willing to wrestle through and
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  lock arms through the weirdest questions to even just the basic
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  questions. Like how do I take captive my
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  thoughts, Rod? Right.
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  I mean that's a genuine question.
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  Most of these pastors just want to stand up.
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  They want to preach, they want you to put money in the hat and
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  show up next week and be a good little boy in between, right.
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  But that's not how we rock over here.
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  We are soldiers of the most high God.
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  We've we serve the greatest God. He's greater than we can wrap
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  our heads around. And I don't mean to be long
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  winded, but just kind of laying a bit of a foundation here and
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  what I do is give people a place to talk about that.
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  And I've covered a diversity of different topics, from
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  antidotical stuff to having doctors on and everybody in
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  between. It's just a really broad
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  spectrum, right, of of information.
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  It's just a library that grows of just like you have a place
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  here. We get weird, we talk about it
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  all. And so this is kind of like
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  coming up to a head you know, for the Mustard Seed to be.
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  I'm humbled to be hanging out with you guys and have this
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  opportunity because it's like everything that I've been
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  driving and pushing for and. And planting and watering all of
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  these years and now just to see God say, hey, I'm going to give
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  you guys some growth. I'm going to get you connected
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  with like minded people. And for you listeners out there,
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  we we have an interesting episode for you guys and thank
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  you for being here. So Michael, back to you.
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  No, don't. Don't hand me back to Mike.
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  You know what's going to happen. I mean, I just drank 3 coffees.
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  I've been like dreaming about this moment and I need to not
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  talk so much, but oh jeez, we're going to do some, we're going to
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  do some collaborations. Rod.
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  Amen to everything you said. And we're going to try to bring
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  this because I think for the new, like listeners, podcasters
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  and new by like, I mean like 2 years, you need to know that
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  you're a part of something that's gone back decades.
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  This fringe Christian movement going back the early days of
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  Michael Heizer coming on Coast to coast and then Derek Gilbert,
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  you know, when he was doing his shows with the camcorder.
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  You know. And it's important that you know
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  this is like it's it really is like Star Wars and the the
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  lightsaber. And like some people have turned
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  to the dark side of the force. You know, you know, here's your
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  light to them. But, you know your father wants
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  you to have this he's like small elegant weapon from the earlier
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  days of podcasting. You know before the days of of
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  Hebrew roots and you know it was like this but then we're we
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  remember like oh so and so became heretic and so and so
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  died a lot of people have died you know it's been a war.
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  So I I just, I'm going to shut up and I want to know more about
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  your guys's shows. But, and also these at the core
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  is like those questions your church won't address, like do
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  you guys go to church and ever meet like anybody that's ever
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  even heard of Michael Heizer's material or anything Book of
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  Enoch? Like I've noticed there are
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  churches that we're finally breaking through into that like.
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  It's pretty cool. I've had people from my church
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  that have found our podcast, you know, because we're kind of a
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  small town, we live over in Oregon and we're kind of a small
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  town and so we're we're really broadcasting around the world,
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  but but we're also like normal people just walking down the
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  street. And doing our thing you know and
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  and and living our life. And then when you have somebody
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  come up to you and be like, oh hey, I was listening to this
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  episode and I couldn't even believe that that that was you.
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  That was crazy. And then there's this other
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  person that was like, oh, we've had this big, this big following
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  of of go all these other podcasts.
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  And then we realized that you guys were doing your podcast
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  and. And then you start having these
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  conversations in your church talking about all all of the
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  things that we're not allowed to talk about, like specifically,
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  like what's going on in the world right now when it comes to
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  adoption and abortion and all of those different things.
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  And how, you know, they're not allowing Christians to adopt
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  kids because they think that you're not inclusive enough.
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  And so there's actually people that are contacting us and being
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  like, hey. I I think that the that there is
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  this agenda because I literally just filled out my adoption
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  papers. We had to take this test.
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  We had to talk and they had to come and look at things and they
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  were urging us not to actually go through with writing down our
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  Christian beliefs because they were afraid that we weren't
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  going to be able to adopt. And I'm just like, who are these
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  people getting to talk to? Like it?
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  You know, are they, does the pastor have time to counsel
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  these people? Are they, are they able to share
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  this information? Has does anybody else have this
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  same experience? You know, and so bringing all
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  these people together on the Internet is a way that we can
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  really become the church, I believe, the way that Jesus, you
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  know, in expected it to become eventually.
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  Right, because it was a mustard seed he planted when he was
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  here. And and it's had to grow over
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  time and it's taken a long time to get to where it is now.
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  But we're noticing as Michael's talking about handing off the
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  baton or the lightsaber. Is he so eloquent, eloquently
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  put. Being able to do that and to
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  hand over that is is a way to continue to further the Kingdom.
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  It's the same thing as. As Paul writing his letters.
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  It's the same thing as. All of these guys, and I'm not
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  saying that Michael is Paul, but this is what we've been doing
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  throughout the whole history of the church, is passing down
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  information and and making sure that it meets God's expectations
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  right? That that the message is getting
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  put out correctly and that people are getting to hear all
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  of the things that they need to hear.
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  And if they're too afraid to ask, well, then they're not
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  hearing anything. Yeah.
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  I think it's the same question everywhere.
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  Really good points, Rick. Go ahead, Pete.
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  Yeah. Yeah, I was just gonna say, I
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  think like, you know, was it the, you know, the
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  Enlightenment, 1800s Age of Reason and and Darwinian was
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  coming on. And I think at some point
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  Christianity kind of backed away from some of the more harder to
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  discussed discuss things in the Bible, the more supernatural
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  things, the more. Fringy things right and and just
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  kind of stuck with the nuts and bolts.
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  Easy to preach. They didn't want to make
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  themselves look too crazy. And we're paying the price for
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  that now because and and but again to flip that on its head,
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  shows like ours, I hope are trying to talk about these these
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  experiences that people have and give a biblical context for it.
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  So now we can have a better answer for Noah's flood.
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  We can have a better answer for the holy wars of Joshua, you
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  know, the Haram wiping out every man, woman and child.
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  I don't think we had a good answer for those things before
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  this. You know, we would just say Oh
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  well, God's sovereign and you know, everyone's sinful.
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  And so it's only is by His grace that we're saved.
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  And that's true. But if you have a better answer
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  for that, that OK, there was defilement of the human genome,
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  there was genetic manipulation, There was trying to prevent
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  Genesis 3 prophecy of the Messiah, the seed of the woman.
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  That was Satan's plan. And Ryan Peterson and his book
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  Judgment of the Nephilim lays that out pretty well in the Old
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  Testament. Now we have a better answer for
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  the atheist that says your God's a genocidal maniac.
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  Oh no. God was preserving humanity and
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  the Messiah, the savior of humanity by doing these drastic
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  things. Because there were drastic times
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  going on the the the violence, the bloodshed, the perversion of
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  the golden age was going on. So I think now we can talk about
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  those things in the biblical context today, like Mike Heiser.
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  We keep bringing up, bridging the gap to the secular UFO
• 21:49
  community and finding those guys are more interested in these
• 21:54
  topics than the people he sits next to in a church service.
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  And to me it it makes Christianity a lot more.
• 22:07
  I don't know how you can't be excited to be a believer and
• 22:12
  partner in this mission when you see how it connects to history
• 22:17
  and what's coming because and I've said this, Luke and I have
• 22:20
  said this many times on the show, it's like all Hollywood's
• 22:25
  ideas, you know, the whole Marvel series, they're great,
• 22:27
  they're good stories, they're exciting.
• 22:30
  All that stuff, the superheroes, all this stuff that's based on
• 22:34
  things from the past that was real, and it's just pales in
• 22:39
  comparison to the real story that God has allowed to play out
• 22:45
  and that he's going to bring to completion.
• 22:47
  So I think it's exciting. Amen.
• 22:54
  That's awesome. Well, should we get into some of
• 22:56
  these questions? I know some, some people have
• 22:59
  sent in questions and we've got a bunch of them to get into
• 23:03
  today. Does anybody have a question
• 23:05
  they want to throw out? Yeah, I think.
• 23:11
  This this is a really elaborate and interesting and cool
• 23:14
  question and it kind of lays out the whole premises of why we're
• 23:17
  even doing this. So it's multi layered, but I'm
• 23:19
  going to read it here real quick.
• 23:22
  So the question that came in from a listener was who said
• 23:25
  that the way we have church now is the way that it is supposed
• 23:29
  to be done. What is church really and where
• 23:33
  does it say in the Bible how church should be?
• 23:38
  How church should be done? And who came up with the way
• 23:41
  things are now like the three songs, then announcements, then
• 23:45
  taking tithes and offerings and then one man preaching and we
• 23:49
  all leave. So it's multi layered.
• 23:51
  It kind of in a in juxtaposes the whole overview of why we're
• 23:54
  doing this and it's like actually you guys, we cannot
• 23:58
  find in the Bible examples of what we see on the quote UN
• 24:02
  quote, church playing field today, we can't actually see
• 24:06
  that. There is no one man who stands
• 24:08
  up in front of everybody. A pastor is not supposed to be
• 24:11
  taking on all the fivefold ministry in the diverse roles.
• 24:15
  He's not supposed to be doing that.
• 24:16
  A pastor is supposed to be feeding the sheep, nurturing,
• 24:19
  right? Encouraging and being
• 24:21
  responsible for for the people that are with him, right.
• 24:25
  You have shepherds that are keeping away wolves.
• 24:27
  They're outward perimeters, right?
• 24:28
  You have prophets who are literally hearing from the the
• 24:32
  God of all creation. And then they're relaying that
• 24:34
  information because God does nothing without whispering first
• 24:37
  to the prophets. And it's like when we just start
• 24:39
  to rattle off a couple verses about what the Bible says,
• 24:43
  brothers dwelling together in unity looks like, or a ecclesia,
• 24:48
  A governing ruling body. It doesn't look anything like
• 24:51
  what we see being done out there in the world today.
• 24:54
  And I don't say that to try to like, disrespect these people,
• 24:56
  but it is what it is. It comes to the point where you
• 24:58
  got to draw a line in the sand and you got to say, is this
• 25:02
  biblical? Can I actually, you guys say you
• 25:04
  represent the Bible, right? I come here to get the word of
• 25:09
  God from you guys and they're supposed to be all this, this,
• 25:12
  these resources. But the Bible that you say you
• 25:14
  represent does it. Are you doing things in
• 25:17
  accordance with what is written there?
• 25:19
  And I think that that's needs to be talked about.
• 25:21
  I don't really see bold people coming up.
• 25:23
  That's not something that is going to be favored.
• 25:25
  Most people are not going to like that.
• 25:27
  You're not going to get super popular for that.
• 25:29
  But men? Who the masculinity that's
• 25:32
  coming back into the church. The men are shaking their head,
• 25:34
  going yeah, you're right, because the women have really
• 25:36
  held it down for a long time. Let's be honest here, guys.
• 25:39
  The women have really held it down.
• 25:40
  Most people. I hear story after story after
• 25:42
  story. My grandma was praying for me.
• 25:44
  Where was your dad? Oh, he was in jail.
• 25:46
  But my grandma was praying for me.
• 25:47
  She said Jesus was real, right? And planted those seeds
• 25:50
  throughout this person's life who now just got baptized and is
• 25:52
  turning a local city up on his head because he's.
• 25:55
  A young man is out there preaching the gospel, right?
• 25:58
  So now the masculinity is coming back into the church and we got
• 26:02
  questions and we're looking at the model of how things are set
• 26:05
  up and we're going, well, that's not, that's not actually what
• 26:08
  I've been reading in my prayer closet and having a show like
• 26:12
  what I do, How big is your God? Is what people got to ask
• 26:16
  themselves before they mess with me?
• 26:18
  Because it's like if if you want to put God in a box, right?
• 26:23
  How big is your Jesus? Well, if he's only this big
• 26:25
  because you can't talk about aliens and Jesus in the same
• 26:28
  sentence, What? And you've made him that big
• 26:30
  because if you know who Doctor Michael Heizer is, you'll see
• 26:35
  the correlations in the word studies and everything is there
• 26:37
  for us to understand. Wow, God is bigger than we can
• 26:41
  imagine. It is for most of you out there.
• 26:43
  You you could feel comfortable saying to God we wish to
• 26:46
  worship. And I put myself in that
• 26:47
  category too. Because the the revelation is
• 26:50
  continual. He is unfolding and I believe he
• 26:53
  is greater and more powerful than we could ever imagine.
• 26:55
  So with that question and my little rant there, I mean you
• 26:58
  guys just start picking that apart.
• 27:00
  I mean just let's build on to that question and then we'll get
• 27:04
  into some other questions here as well.
• 27:05
  But why is? Why is it the way it is today?
• 27:10
  We've become a kind of spoiled nation that like, doesn't have a
• 27:13
  lot of challenge except just to cover our rent and our bills
• 27:16
  and. You know, in Taiwan, I used to
• 27:19
  go to these, like, Buddha churches, just got invited to
• 27:22
  one. And I went and it was like, this
• 27:24
  feels just like church in America, like a mega church,
• 27:26
  like just community people coming together.
• 27:29
  They're even talking about miracles and ghosts and crazy
• 27:32
  cool things. Like I could understand enough
• 27:34
  of the Chinese to kind of follow along and be like, wow, this is
• 27:37
  like a really weird church in America or something.
• 27:41
  But what's the difference here like?
• 27:44
  I mean the church, the early church in the catacombs, you
• 27:46
  know being persecuted. I'm we're seeing in Haywood
• 27:49
  County repentance of a lot of these good old boys, good old
• 27:53
  Baptist Church people, pastors. I don't even know what
• 27:56
  denominations coming and repenting on the streets and
• 27:59
  showing their faces in solidarity, praying because you
• 28:03
  got LGBT pedo clown stuff happening in a small town in the
• 28:08
  mountains. And it's like everybody's lost
• 28:11
  control and they were all like too busy with their phones or
• 28:14
  their jobs or whatever and they're like holy crap we're
• 28:16
  about to lose our town. Let's all get together and pray.
• 28:19
  And that to me I think the the persecute and then there's
• 28:23
  Internet witches cursing them like you got to you got to see
• 28:27
  these posts like this little town.
• 28:28
  It's it's like stranger Things it's like strange weird stuff.
• 28:32
  So I think the persecution, what we're hearing is going to help
• 28:35
  bring people back together and. And then meanwhile us podcasters
• 28:39
  and people that have been online and like, yeah, we've been
• 28:41
  talking about this for years. You know, welcome to the club.
• 28:45
  And but we need to get ready for a big influx, not just of
• 28:48
  listeners but get ready to meet people physically that are going
• 28:52
  to be inviting you to come speak, to come lead their Bible
• 28:55
  study, to come be their their tech guy.
• 28:57
  For the local people that run, it's I'm seeing this like we've
• 29:02
  been like this Starship fringe Christians like in the hovering
• 29:06
  in the Internet. And then now we're like landing.
• 29:08
  And it's going to be awesome. You we're like coming and
• 29:11
  they're like we come in peace. I'm like, who are you?
• 29:15
  Are you with the bad guys? No.
• 29:17
  I don't have time to explain. Come with me.
• 29:19
  I'll explain on the way. It's kind of how it feels.
• 29:23
  So yeah. And what do you?
• 29:24
  Guys think I mean. What does church look like?
• 29:26
  I I think that. Church for me has always been a
• 29:29
  big issue because I, you know, when I was young.
• 29:33
  I went to a a Baptist and this isn't a knock on Baptist Church,
• 29:36
  but I went to a Baptist Church. That's just the reality of it.
• 29:39
  And it was garbage for a kid. I mean I was just like, this is
• 29:44
  garbage. I don't want to do this.
• 29:46
  And my mom was like having to force me to behave and to sit
• 29:50
  still and and I'm a I'm a boy, you know.
• 29:53
  All I want to do is run around and kick doors open and you
• 29:56
  know. Do all kinds of crazy things,
• 29:58
  Climb everything? I'm trying to.
• 30:00
  I'm trying to jump from Pew to Pew.
• 30:01
  I'm not trying to listen to the pastor, you know?
• 30:05
  And The thing is, is we as as men, if, if we're as going back
• 30:11
  to what Rod was saying, if we're to come into the church and say
• 30:14
  this is, this is what we need. To do is take this thing back
• 30:18
  over from the women. I thought that was such a great
• 30:21
  point. We need to take this back over
• 30:23
  from the women and stop arguing about the flowers and the color
• 30:27
  of the carpet and and the decorations in the foyer and all
• 30:31
  of these different things. Do we have coffee or do we not
• 30:34
  have coffee? It doesn't really matter.
• 30:36
  Like do you have Jesus? This is the question that we
• 30:39
  should be asking and so when we when we talk about.
• 30:44
  You know, the men standing up, we have to start asking why?
• 30:48
  How did we get here? And what has allowed us to do
• 30:52
  this? And there's a really good book
• 30:53
  by Frank Viola. I don't know if you guys know
• 30:56
  Frank Viola. He's kind of.
• 30:59
  He's kind of the he talks about home, church, and and and how
• 31:04
  we're supposed to be living our our Christian lives each and
• 31:08
  every day in community. But he wrote a book called Pagan
• 31:11
  Christianity, and I'm going to plug that one.
• 31:13
  Every day for the rest of my life on this topic because it's
• 31:18
  it's a really quick way for somebody to be able to read all
• 31:22
  or listen on Audible or whatever all the information that you're
• 31:26
  looking for on this topic. It's such a huge question that
• 31:30
  for us to really break it down in the amount of time that we're
• 31:33
  going to. I mean, we could do it over
• 31:34
  episodes, but. It's really good.
• 31:37
  If you want to know the answer to that question today, you
• 31:39
  could pick up that book and and check it out.
• 31:42
  But he basically goes through all of the reasons that we have,
• 31:46
  everything that we have. I mean, he talks about
• 31:49
  Christmas. He talks about how, you know,
• 31:52
  the pastor's standing up there and the congregation is
• 31:54
  listening, and why and how we got that public oration, how
• 31:58
  it's one guy standing up and talking, how that comes from way
• 32:01
  back in the Greeks. And that's how they used to do
• 32:04
  things to Stan and Orate. And so we we have to educate
• 32:08
  ourselves so that we can lead the church.
• 32:12
  Because when we know that that it was all Paganism that brought
• 32:17
  us into the way that we are walking through our churches
• 32:21
  now, then we have to, you know, put aside paganism.
• 32:25
  We have to at what point do we say this is paganism?
• 32:30
  It's been proven. So let's stop doing it.
• 32:35
  Yeah. Luke, you were gonna say
• 32:36
  something a moment ago. Do you recall?
• 32:39
  Go ahead. All right.
• 32:42
  I think you're muted. Are you muted?
• 32:45
  Double check. Yeah, I'm.
• 32:47
  I'm hit myself when I'm not talking.
• 32:49
  That's fine. Rick, to your point, I think you
• 32:51
  you brought up some good things. Like I think a church should
• 32:54
  definitely be asking the questions.
• 32:58
  What is tradition? What is Paganism that is you
• 33:03
  know it's came into the to the building as far as how how
• 33:07
  churches are running or operating.
• 33:12
  Obviously Apostle Paul was a leader you know over many
• 33:18
  churches. So he I'm sure he did stand in
• 33:21
  front of the the group of believers and bring a message.
• 33:26
  I know they appointed deacons and.
• 33:29
  Other people to to lead everybody there.
• 33:35
  But I think, I think it'd be good for all of us just to be
• 33:38
  humble and to let the Lord and the Holy Spirit redirect our
• 33:43
  steps. Because I think you're right,
• 33:48
  Church has been lost in tradition in in a lot of ways.
• 33:51
  That's always how we did it, Peter.
• 33:54
  We just had Tim Bentz on our show again.
• 33:58
  And he was given a story about how there was this major issue
• 34:04
  that was happening in a church building.
• 34:06
  And when he brought this, this issue to the to the church
• 34:11
  leaders, they dismissed him. Even though he had evidence,
• 34:16
  they totally dismissed him. But when he brought it to an
• 34:19
  atheist or someone that didn't have a relationship with Christ
• 34:21
  quite yet, that person's like, I don't want to offend God.
• 34:25
  So this might be another question that we could dive into
• 34:29
  is why is it, why is unbelievers more willing to embrace the
• 34:37
  truth than I? I mean, it happened during
• 34:41
  Jesus's day, right? It was the IT was the religious
• 34:44
  leaders of that day that didn't accept him, but it was the
• 34:48
  people on the street that wasn't really digging what was going on
• 34:52
  in the traditional. Sense in Israel that embrace
• 34:57
  Christ. Yeah that's the danger of of
• 35:00
  entrenchment right. Of entrenched institutions
• 35:03
  whether it's the Pharisees in Jesus day or the Sadducees or
• 35:08
  the the leaders right. You know I remember a a a pastor
• 35:13
  of mine I respect him to this day but from couple decades ago
• 35:16
  and I remember him talking about how it's a good thing that we
• 35:20
  have these hierarchies of denominations and so on and and
• 35:24
  that helps keep out heresy and and and error.
• 35:30
  But I really think that's kind of backwards.
• 35:33
  I think it entrenches it and it makes it slow to change.
• 35:37
  You know, just like I think it was the American Heart
• 35:41
  Association, you know, 1950s. They're recommending trans fats.
• 35:46
  Like institutions, when they become entrenched, are are very
• 35:49
  slow to change. And yeah, I have to echo and
• 35:52
  agree wholeheartedly, we could do ours on this about Frank
• 35:56
  Viola's book Pagan Christianity, and then how he talks about
• 35:59
  organic Church and what does that look like?
• 36:04
  For me, real briefly, it was Francis Chan's book, Letters to
• 36:07
  the Church that kind of opened that door, Pagan Christianity as
• 36:10
  well. And then more recently, Tim
• 36:14
  Kurtz wrote a book on the meaning of the word Church and
• 36:20
  how King James the version of the Bible that a lot of us hold
• 36:23
  pretty dear. And it is a good version that
• 36:26
  King James believed in the divine right of kings and he
• 36:29
  didn't want any competition. And so he deliberately told his
• 36:32
  translators to mistranslate the word ekklesia and translate it
• 36:38
  as church, which is a building a place because and and and there
• 36:43
  were certain areas where he actually didn't do that on
• 36:46
  purpose, where it made the ekklesia look bad, so that those
• 36:50
  ones he left in but he didn't want any challenge.
• 36:53
  To that are you? Are you?
• 36:55
  Are you daring to challenge my, my King James, my KJV?
• 36:59
  Hey, it's a great translation, but it's my.
• 37:01
  King James Bible from my cold, dead fingers.
• 37:03
  Yeah, we got to look at a lot of translations, but I I just echo
• 37:07
  that and I think it's, you know, to, to go back to the original
• 37:10
  question, how do we do church and why?
• 37:13
  We have a great window. Paul wrote Corinthians and in 11
• 37:16
  chapters 11 through 14, he peels back the curtain because there
• 37:22
  were problems that he had to address.
• 37:24
  And so we get a window into how they met.
• 37:28
  So that's a great place to start and of course acts.
• 37:31
  But yeah, you know, we've as a family, we've been meeting in a
• 37:35
  home with a handful of other people now for about 8 months.
• 37:40
  It was, it was a process. It was maybe 6-7, eight years
• 37:44
  ago that I first came, came across this material.
• 37:47
  My wife was not ready. I put it on the shelf in my
• 37:49
  mind. Then our church had just paid
• 37:54
  off the mortgage and we thought, wow, you know, a couple thousand
• 37:58
  a month maybe in in in cash flow.
• 38:01
  What are you guys going to do for evangelism to reach out to
• 38:03
  the community? The answer we got back was,
• 38:07
  well, two Sundays a year, the community comes to us.
• 38:11
  Easter, Christmas, wow. So that's how we're going to
• 38:14
  reach out, so. Easter is not and I just went
• 38:19
  through this word study recently, Easter.
• 38:23
  Is not actually in the Bible as what we know it as.
• 38:27
  It's a whole different thing. So when we actually look at the
• 38:30
  word Easter, it comes from Pentecost.
• 38:32
  It's it. We have the Hebrew word for it
• 38:34
  in the Greek word and it has nothing to do with rabbits or
• 38:38
  eggs, which if we look into estar, you know that these
• 38:41
  ancient goddesses that are utility and producing many
• 38:45
  things and and and and it's just like that's just a surface
• 38:49
  glance, but how many people in the actual building?
• 38:52
  Are willing to hear me out on that, like, like why do you guys
• 38:55
  want to flip the switch and call me crazy or cut me off if I even
• 38:59
  start opening my mouth in that direction?
• 39:02
  Because I believe the fear of the Lord is about to come back
• 39:05
  into the real church, the real Ecclesia.
• 39:07
  And you guys that sometimes this is a battle for your soul.
• 39:10
  You know what I mean? Sometimes this is a battle so
• 39:13
  that you guys, you're not veiled to the point where you're just
• 39:16
  the blind leading the blind. You both fall in a ditch.
• 39:18
  What does the word say? The word is never going to fade
• 39:22
  away. And man, I just love what all of
• 39:25
  you guys are saying right now because really it's feeding into
• 39:28
  the reality. You know, we have to come to
• 39:31
  understand that all the systems that are set up right, if this
• 39:35
  enemy is really real, right, if there really is an accuser of
• 39:40
  the brethren's which is not an individual, it is literally a
• 39:43
  type. Of entity that exists, that
• 39:46
  accuses us. So there's not one of them which
• 39:48
  is a surprise for many people in the church.
• 39:50
  And if we come to the reality that the whole system history as
• 39:54
  we have been taught that you know, the the poisons in our
• 39:57
  foods society, the flashing lights, everything grabbing our
• 39:59
  attention, everything that's sucking us in to keep us
• 40:02
  distracted from who we are, who we're called to be, who gave his
• 40:06
  life for us, that means we have value.
• 40:08
  If Christ did what he said He did, which I believe He did.
• 40:11
  And he rose again. According to scriptures, on the
• 40:13
  third day. That means we have some
• 40:15
  significant value, and it cannot be understated or underplayed.
• 40:19
  We can spend the next three days just talking about the glory of
• 40:22
  God and how he conceals the matter and the duty of the
• 40:25
  Princess and the kings to seek it out, and it still wouldn't be
• 40:28
  enough. But for the sake of the flow of
• 40:30
  the conversation, I'll move on to the point.
• 40:33
  If we really understood who God thinks that we are, knows that
• 40:36
  we are made us to be seized, that we are seized, our final
• 40:39
  product, final status, we we would not be so easily we we
• 40:45
  wouldn't be sequacious. Well, let's just go with the
• 40:47
  flow. Whatever the local pastor says.
• 40:49
  No, actually, you know what the Ecclesia, you guys, the
• 40:53
  governing body, the Holy Spirit promotes people and puts people
• 40:57
  in according to the anointing. It has nothing to do with your
• 41:00
  seminary. It has nothing to do with how
• 41:03
  much head knowledge you have. It has has to do with have you
• 41:05
  stored the word in your heart. Can you make sense of what the
• 41:08
  word says? Right.
• 41:09
  And so this spirit of God is about to do what the spirit of
• 41:13
  God does. The measure in the fullness, the
• 41:15
  grace for the falsified operating systems that are being
• 41:19
  exposed. We're exposing the SRA stuff.
• 41:21
  We're exposing the DID stuff. Michael Basham, me and you have
• 41:24
  talked about level one and Level 2 false reality overlays, right?
• 41:29
  Like, we're all subject to these demonic systems through
• 41:32
  frequency, through imagery, through the culture, through the
• 41:35
  food. It's all like these mild
• 41:36
  poisonings because they're terrified of us at the end of
• 41:39
  the day. They're terrified of us coming
• 41:41
  together and getting what's happening and knowing who we are
• 41:44
  and who we belong to. So they have to kind of like,
• 41:46
  inch their way in and try to poison us a little bit and try
• 41:49
  to choke us out a little bit just to hinder us from actually
• 41:52
  firing on all cylinders. And this is what pisses me off
• 41:54
  about the enemy. It's like we're seeing his
• 41:57
  position. We know where he is and what is.
• 42:00
  What does the Archangel Michael say?
• 42:01
  He said, look, the Lord rebuke you.
• 42:05
  That means if we're right with the Lord, we can look at this
• 42:08
  enemy and be like, yo, listen, the Lord rebuke you.
• 42:10
  This is the way things are going to happen here.
• 42:12
  You have no claim against me because he who was covered by
• 42:15
  the blood is truly covered and we know the truth.
• 42:18
  We're going to be set free from all of these false systems.
• 42:20
  So let me just drop this this other question here and you guys
• 42:25
  just start throwing questions out that you personally have or
• 42:28
  you've gotten from a listener. Whether it's an e-mail, you got
• 42:30
  a text message from a friend, however they came in.
• 42:33
  But I had a a message come in that says what about all the
• 42:38
  supernatural stuff? Why are the Nephilim and wild
• 42:41
  beasts talked about? And why is the word wild beasts
• 42:43
  come up differently, like if you actually do your your study.
• 42:46
  When we see wild beasts or beasts in Revelation or just all
• 42:50
  throughout the Bible, we don't have it doesn't just mean a cow.
• 42:54
  Like there's actually, like if you go read in the concordance,
• 42:57
  you'll be able to tell exactly what that word means.
• 42:59
  So in the English we streamline through it.
• 43:01
  So what this person really was saying is, where's the line
• 43:05
  drawn between these beasts? Does that have to do with
• 43:07
  cryptids, chimeras, Strange things of that?
• 43:10
  I think we start getting into that realm a little bit, and the
• 43:14
  Book of Enoch first Enoch is welcome for good conversation in
• 43:17
  my opinion also, so passing it on.
• 43:20
  Can you repeat that Rod, the because there was a series of
• 43:22
  questions there. Can you repeat those again?
• 43:25
  Yeah. So he is asking what does the
• 43:29
  Bible say about the supernatural stuff, the Nephilim or the wild
• 43:33
  beast? How come when a wild beast is
• 43:35
  mentioned in the English, we just think it's cattle but it
• 43:39
  but the actual root words mean something specific which would
• 43:43
  give a whole new context to the verses where we find beast in
• 43:47
  the Bible. This is just speculation, but
• 43:49
  could could that be something something to do with shape
• 43:53
  shifting? Because I'm trying.
• 43:57
  I'm trying. I'm trying to remember guys.
• 43:59
  Here we go. Time to get weird.
• 44:02
  Roll them off. Trying to remember.
• 44:04
  We're going all. The way which guest it was on on
• 44:08
  blurry creatures. It might have been Doug Van
• 44:10
  Dorn, I don't recall. Might have been Gary Wayne, but
• 44:14
  they were talking about Saul being told to kill even all the
• 44:21
  animals and he disobeyed. And and the guests on Blurry
• 44:26
  Creatures said that there was, there's some evidence that that
• 44:33
  there that this particular group was known to be shape shifters
• 44:37
  and they could have disguised themselves as animals.
• 44:40
  And so Saul could have unknowingly been bringing these
• 44:43
  things into his Kingdom. And God was protecting him.
• 44:47
  Yeah, protecting him. And Saul was disobedient.
• 44:51
  And that's why Saul got passed over and it went to David.
• 44:53
  But. I don't know.
• 44:55
  Maybe that has something to do with the wild beasts.
• 44:57
  That's just speculation though. I don't know, Michael.
• 45:00
  Real quick. I want to say this, like in my
• 45:02
  wife's culture, my wife's from Southeastern Asia, right?
• 45:05
  She's been here since she was like 19 years old.
• 45:08
  And a lot of the times when we go to like a local church,
• 45:11
  there's things that like we would, we'll talk about at home
• 45:14
  in privacy, which will tell me things, you know, and but she
• 45:16
  would never bring it up there. And I'm going to break down that
• 45:18
  wall. Please.
• 45:19
  Someone give my wife the microphone and let her talk
• 45:21
  about the chimeras and the things that they literally they
• 45:25
  know exists. Like they went to war with these
• 45:28
  things. Like on the intro of my show
• 45:29
  where LA Marzulli is, in the the show's intro, which by the way,
• 45:33
  all those vocals are people I've interviewed over the years.
• 45:36
  On the podcast. He's saying God gave me that one
• 45:40
  'cause I was listening and I had all these snippets on the back
• 45:43
  burner. But anyway, that's another story
• 45:44
  for another time and LA talks about these 12 footers coming
• 45:48
  walking down the path and the young Braves, the young men are
• 45:52
  up in the tree with a spear and then they drop down.
• 45:54
  They they have to literally launch down with the spear to
• 45:56
  kill him. That's his story.
• 45:58
  His first time on, I think it was season one of the podcast
• 46:01
  talking about in the Philippines, the young Braves
• 46:04
  going to war, because there's 7528 islands there, a lot of
• 46:09
  them. There's no technology, it's
• 46:10
  uninhibited and there is more than just rumors of giants and
• 46:16
  cryptids and creatures that come out of that region.
• 46:18
  Like they live and die by that stuff and they're not
• 46:21
  entertained by like Netflix like we are over here.
• 46:25
  And I just think that Michael, I want you to kind of comment on
• 46:27
  that a little bit because we do get a lot of listeners from out
• 46:30
  of the country. Like we get a lot of people from
• 46:33
  the Philippines that listen in, in Germany and all over the
• 46:35
  place. But for those people that are
• 46:37
  not under the American mimicked illusion that comes out of
• 46:40
  Hollywood, right and all this stuff, how would you kind of
• 46:44
  like comfort them to be like, listen, if you guys are engaging
• 46:47
  with American church or you're engaging with missionaries,
• 46:51
  quote UN quote, missionaries are coming through.
• 46:54
  Here's the confidence to be like, yeah, you know what, The
• 46:57
  little people are real and we've been going to battle with them
• 46:59
  because I feel like all the foreigners were zip their lips
• 47:02
  shut when there's an American missionary and they just, you
• 47:05
  know, whatever they come through and they tell them all the
• 47:06
  stuff. But like, we need to be able to
• 47:09
  bind the strongman and pray against that stuff.
• 47:11
  So what? What does your brain do with
• 47:12
  that, Michael, 'cause you spent so much time over there?
• 47:15
  You're like, really like half Asian at heart, you know?
• 47:19
  Well, yeah, Jerilyn is is literally the only Asian I've
• 47:23
  I've talked to now. It's weird being in white
• 47:25
  America again. Like, I'm not used to being.
• 47:28
  I'm like I always say, it's like, is this even legal to have
• 47:30
  this many white people living somewhere these days?
• 47:32
  Like I thought America was all like against white people and.
• 47:36
  Live in Haywood County in North Carolina and it's just like.
• 47:38
  It's definitely not politically correct to be that white
• 47:41
  anymore. They're everywhere.
• 47:42
  Yeah, there's a lot of things out there.
• 47:46
  I mean, your wife I'm sure has so many stories too, and just
• 47:50
  the traditions. And I mean, it's not like you're
• 47:52
  seeing it every day, but over the years, you know, you see
• 47:55
  stuff and you hear stuff and you you engage with things and.
• 47:59
  I'm a big believer in in just the spiritual dimension is so
• 48:03
  real around us all the time and that we need to be more
• 48:05
  conscious of it and not to sound all new agey and like you know
• 48:09
  protect your energy dude. Like here take some of this.
• 48:12
  This will really help you like clear your mind like see things
• 48:15
  man. Like, dude, no, I don't do
• 48:17
  drugs. Say no to drug, however, to by
• 48:22
  faith engage in spiritual warfare.
• 48:25
  Just a little about me since, you know, your audiences might
• 48:28
  not know my family worked directly with Derek Prince
• 48:31
  actually runs Derek Prince Ministries right now.
• 48:34
  And my grandfather wrote all these books about Deliverance
• 48:37
  and just demon battles and spiritual warfare.
• 48:41
  And so this was, I mean, I'm no like guru guy.
• 48:45
  Like I'm kind of spoiled into this like kind of grew up John
• 48:49
  Connor. You know you're going to, you're
• 48:51
  family, you know you're going to, you guys are going to do it
• 48:52
  in the future kind of thing like.
• 48:54
  Just this is all just in my blood in my family.
• 48:57
  So then to go to Japan and go to Nepal and go to Taiwan and all
• 49:01
  these countries and then to join, I joined a cult for a
• 49:04
  little while. I'm still in touch with a lot of
• 49:05
  ex members that you know, they've calmed down their fringe
• 49:08
  beliefs and I'm like, hey, we could really use some fringe
• 49:11
  beliefs these days. Like any of you guys still got
• 49:13
  any fight left in you. It was heavily biblical
• 49:16
  centered, centric and total on like.
• 49:20
  Everything fringe Christian like memorize the Bible.
• 49:22
  In fact, they were the ones that led me to know Alex Jones,
• 49:26
  Infowars and fringe Christian material, LA Marzulli.
• 49:29
  Just individuals from that group, the children of God.
• 49:33
  But man, we would see things so often.
• 49:37
  I knew so many people. So it was like, Oh yeah, in
• 49:39
  India we we saw those blue elephant weird things like.
• 49:43
  It came into one of the kids rooms late at night.
• 49:45
  I ran in the bedroom and there's this big glowing blue demonic
• 49:49
  entity with an elephant nose and boy.
• 49:51
  We started praying against that thing in the name of Jesus and
• 49:54
  it left. But I'm telling you, those
• 49:55
  things are real and I'm like, what really.
• 49:59
  You know, stories about chimeras, weird, like train
• 50:02
  stories about people seeing like the Indian army has monkey human
• 50:07
  hybrids. These are not podcasts, mind
• 50:09
  you. These are like direct
• 50:11
  testimonials. Stuff with ghosts.
• 50:14
  You know, I would see ghosts sometimes you would just, you
• 50:17
  can feel it when you go to like an Asian country.
• 50:20
  It's like a soup of just wow, yeah, there's a lot of Asia.
• 50:24
  There's a lot of idol worshipping going on around
• 50:26
  here. And you guys don't even have to
• 50:28
  go to the Asia anymore because it's in.
• 50:29
  It's coming here. Third world's coming here, baby.
• 50:32
  I found an ashram the other day and I'm getting off topic really
• 50:36
  quick. But I I was doing a clean.
• 50:37
  We do like property managing and just whatever we can do to to
• 50:40
  pay the bills and then. I passionately will stay behind
• 50:44
  the microphone. I was at a clean and I got this.
• 50:47
  I was so tired. I got this vision of an Indian
• 50:50
  like a almost like an angelic. It was very heavenly.
• 50:53
  You get this blissful, peaceful feeling when the Holy Spirit's
• 50:56
  talking to you, even if it's something totally crazy.
• 50:59
  And it was this Indian voice that started to kind of cheer me
• 51:03
  on. And I thought I was going crazy
• 51:05
  and I was trying to talk like this little bit, feeling like
• 51:07
  Indian night dirt. What is wrong with me?
• 51:10
  And I'm literally just like, God, please help me get this
• 51:13
  done. I'm so tired.
• 51:14
  And then and it it passed and got everything worked out, Job
• 51:19
  done. Go outside.
• 51:20
  There's all these Indian people driving down the mountain.
• 51:22
  And I'm like, what the heck? Where are you guys coming from?
• 51:25
  So I drove up the mountain and there's a big old ashram like an
• 51:28
  Indian temple, legit like they imported stuff from India just
• 51:32
  down the street, hundreds if not thousands of Indians.
• 51:36
  I was the only white guy like I'm used to.
• 51:39
  And I'm there with my camera just like, hi.
• 51:41
  I'm seeing like 12 foot tall demon statues, American dollar
• 51:46
  bills being sacrificed to idols. Like weird creepy stuff.
• 51:51
  They're like worshipping idols down the street.
• 51:55
  So I mean this stuff. And you can feel that weird
• 51:58
  soupy, like, whoa. And I'm just like, oh man, I
• 52:00
  want to take pictures of like, snakes.
• 52:03
  Like DNA kind of gods and idols. I mean giants, like demonic,
• 52:07
  evil giant statues that they imported from India.
• 52:11
  I mean this is the real thing. And I mean my heart is to win
• 52:15
  souls. So I mean, we should be
• 52:16
  missionaries at heart and just focus on winning souls.
• 52:20
  But I'm like, Oh yeah, challenge accepted.
• 52:22
  You guys got demons. Well, God, this is your turn.
• 52:25
  Do something. Do that whole, you know that God
• 52:28
  thing? Let's see you do that like burn
• 52:30
  the wet logs and the prophets of Baal and that's where I get so
• 52:34
  excited and and the only criticism I have to fringe
• 52:37
  Christian stuff is that people tend to focus on, you know
• 52:41
  Timothy Albarino and all right here's what you need to know
• 52:44
  about the Face Peelers and like so I was down there with my
• 52:47
  night vision goggles and he's like going on and on and like
• 52:49
  where's the where's the moment of God showed up.
• 52:53
  You know that's what I that's where I'm focused.
• 52:56
  So I hope that answers. Can can I share a brief
• 52:59
  anecdote? And then Rick or whoever wants
• 53:01
  to jump in there. Just posting tomorrow and and
• 53:05
  it's in. It's in the teaser trailer
• 53:07
  'cause I had we had Jesse Zeboder on the show a while back
• 53:10
  so it's finally posting and she talks about 4 1/2 years old
• 53:17
  being put in a pentagram on the floor.
• 53:19
  They're doing a riff troll. They're calling up Ashtroth,
• 53:22
  this high level demonic entity. Ancient entity.
• 53:27
  And all she could do at 4 1/2 was sing the Bible song.
• 53:32
  And this demon goddess had to go back in the floor and couldn't
• 53:36
  do anything. That's the God we serve.
• 53:39
  Hallelujah, yes. And then?
• 53:42
  That's why some people's brother.
• 53:44
  This is very good, very good stuff.
• 53:48
  Tell me more. Once more time.
• 53:49
  Tell me, Gun. Yeah.
• 53:52
  When we when we get into these type of topics and we're trying
• 53:56
  to figure out, you know what, what are all these cryptos?
• 54:00
  What, what's up with UFOs? What's up with this, what's up
• 54:03
  with that? But nobody's talking about it
• 54:06
  because of the fear. And that's the thing that that I
• 54:10
  think people need to realize is you're holding yourself back.
• 54:16
  From learning the full truth that God wants to reveal to you
• 54:21
  because you don't think it aligns to your worldview, your
• 54:26
  personal worldview that you got. And I what I want to say is, is
• 54:31
  there's a lot of people that they don't realize that you grew
• 54:35
  up in a certain time, in a certain era, in a certain place
• 54:41
  in the world, on a certain. You know, block in a certain
• 54:46
  neighborhood, in your perspective of the entire
• 54:51
  whatever we want to call it, cosmos, realm, dimension,
• 54:55
  whatever we're in. How do you think that you're
• 54:59
  ever gonna fully understand all of the truth if you don't pull
• 55:04
  yourself outside of that paradigm?
• 55:07
  Of well, this is just how it is at my house, you know, because I
• 55:12
  grew up this way. Or this is how this is how we do
• 55:15
  it at my church. Or maybe you're from a big city
• 55:18
  and you go to big city church, mega church, and you guys all,
• 55:21
  you know, wear skinny jeans and you're stopping to get your
• 55:23
  coffee and you've got scarves on and all that stuff.
• 55:26
  That's awesome. OK.
• 55:28
  But there's also small town churches where these people are
• 55:31
  like four or five people getting together.
• 55:33
  I mean, like Pete was saying, they're just getting together in
• 55:35
  their house. And they're talking about God
• 55:38
  and that's it. And they're letting Jesus be the
• 55:40
  head of that meeting instead of, you know, some guy up there
• 55:46
  telling us all what we need to understand about the Bible in in
• 55:50
  his way, with his translations, with all of his knowledge and
• 55:54
  his life circumstances. Before we came on the podcast,
• 55:58
  me and Rod were just wrapping back and forth and I and I said
• 56:02
  it's so crazy that when you're when you're reading the Bible,
• 56:04
  it actually says. That you shouldn't take your
• 56:08
  teaching from man. Like we're not we're not taking
• 56:12
  our teaching from man. We're taking our teaching from
• 56:15
  the Holy Spirit. That's what Jesus says.
• 56:18
  Jesus says I'm giving you a comforter.
• 56:20
  I'm giving you the Spirit, this this teacher and and you're not
• 56:24
  supposed to be learning from man.
• 56:26
  Paul even says what? What gospel do you think that I
• 56:31
  that I'm giving you? Do you think that this is from
• 56:33
  my own accord? This isn't my gospel.
• 56:36
  This isn't I I got this from the spirit of God, you know, and
• 56:41
  that's such a huge point that he's making because we're all
• 56:44
  running around like and I mean we've dropped some names
• 56:47
  obviously, like Mike Heiser and all these guys that we that
• 56:51
  we've, but those guys are the front runners, right?
• 56:54
  They're just the John the Baptists in the in the
• 56:56
  wilderness, you know, just just pointing everybody to Jesus,
• 57:01
  pointing everybody to their Bible so that they can actually
• 57:04
  get into it and read it. In its original context, and so
• 57:09
  going back to what I was saying at the beginning, and I'll wrap
• 57:11
  with this is you, you have to get outside of your own bubble
• 57:18
  that you live in and you have to realize that the Bible wasn't
• 57:22
  written for you. It it wasn't, it was written to
• 57:26
  a whole nother group of people at a whole nother group of time.
• 57:30
  And those people thought that it was such an important life
• 57:34
  altering event. That happened.
• 57:37
  And they thought that this God of the universe was telling us
• 57:41
  something so incredible that they decided to keep telling
• 57:44
  other people and writing it down and telling other people and
• 57:47
  writing it down. And it got to the point where
• 57:49
  the oral history, and I mean, we even found Dead Sea Scrolls and
• 57:53
  stuff like that, right? And so this tradition of people
• 57:57
  passing on this baton is is what we're trying to do here.
• 58:02
  We're trying to continue to push.
• 58:05
  And if we can't get outside of our own comfort zones and our
• 58:08
  own spaces, our own bubbles, we're going to have a hard time
• 58:11
  opening up to what God has for us because it's way bigger than
• 58:15
  you can even imagine. Yeah.
• 58:18
  And just just to build on what you guys are saying, like, I'm
• 58:22
  going to share a snippet of something that actually happened
• 58:24
  this year that's super interesting.
• 58:27
  I mean, there's a lot that goes on behind the scenes, but it's
• 58:30
  January of 23 and I get a phone call from Dan Duvall and I'm
• 58:36
  like, yo, what's going on? We're wrapping back and forth
• 58:38
  for like 40 minutes, like we're going.
• 58:40
  And he's like, well, I'm getting ready to leave the country.
• 58:43
  I'm going to Africa for a little bit, but I had something really
• 58:46
  important to tell you and that's why I wanted to call and I go,
• 58:49
  well, what's going on? He says this year is going to be
• 58:52
  one of the most interesting years for you.
• 58:55
  Some stuff is coming down the pipeline and you're in boot
• 58:59
  camp, kid. Like get ready for what's coming
• 59:02
  out of the season and I'm like, tell me more.
• 59:05
  He's like, Nope, sorry, gotta go.
• 59:07
  I'll be in Africa for 10 weeks and hangs up and I'm like, what
• 59:10
  the heck, right. So I'm like waiting around.
• 59:12
  I'm like, what is going on? Three days later I get a phone
• 59:16
  call from if anybody out there listening knows of Marcus
• 59:20
  Rodgers Ministries Firehouse in Chicago which he's he's a big,
• 59:25
  you know, he makes music. I I highly support what Marcus
• 59:27
  does well. His brother Klaus calls me and
• 59:29
  says, bro, I'm coming to PA and God just gave me a dream.
• 59:34
  There's revival coming out of Pennsylvania.
• 59:37
  And in February, every single day we're going to go through
• 59:40
  this 28 days in February, we're going to go through the book of
• 59:43
  acts. There's 28 chapters and we're
• 59:45
  back to the home church, back to just prayer, back to the way
• 59:48
  that the Bible says it. And we have seen stuff come out
• 59:51
  of this region this year. There's so much.
• 59:54
  There's not enough time in the day for me to try to explain to
• 59:57
  you guys all these connections, all these people getting
• 1:00:00
  baptized left and right. I think there's over like 40 or
• 1:00:02
  50 people that have been baptized just out of the
• 1:00:04
  affiliation of what's been going on.
• 1:00:06
  And this is just the beginning. See, The thing is, is the
• 1:00:10
  information we have gotten is this is just for the workers.
• 1:00:15
  This isn't the harvest yet. Like workers are getting
• 1:00:17
  prepared for the influx. And most people like, oh, the
• 1:00:20
  harvest is here. It's like, no, no, no.
• 1:00:22
  Like like we're fighting tooth and nail to like position
• 1:00:24
  ourselves as the laborers for when the flux comes in.
• 1:00:29
  And so there's just so much that has happened behind the scenes.
• 1:00:31
  But just to see that was spirit Dan calling.
• 1:00:35
  It's not like Dan gave me a layout and say do this next and
• 1:00:37
  follow these steps. No, it's just a spirit of God
• 1:00:39
  tugging and leading, saying hey, kind of a a bit of a prophetic
• 1:00:42
  voice, hey, get prepared. Another person who's not
• 1:00:45
  affiliated with Dan, they don't know each other, they don't
• 1:00:47
  talk. Right.
• 1:00:47
  And you can just see how God is, is moving in that way.
• 1:00:50
  And it goes right back to the fact that, OK, Second
• 1:00:53
  Corinthians gives us a list of the gifts.
• 1:00:55
  All right. Some of you are pastors, some
• 1:00:56
  are prophets, some are shepherds, some have the gift of
• 1:00:58
  servitude, right. We see all these different gifts
• 1:01:01
  laid out for the diversity of this one spirit, one truth, one
• 1:01:05
  baptism. But the Comforter, our teacher
• 1:01:09
  Christ, has sent with us. So I want to encourage somebody
• 1:01:13
  out there listening right now. If you're getting that gut tug,
• 1:01:16
  you're feeling a tug in your gut.
• 1:01:18
  God is calling you to whatever, forgive somebody, to repent, to
• 1:01:22
  go deeper. You know, to go and up the
• 1:01:25
  mountainside by yourself. Yeah, go take that four or five
• 1:01:28
  mile walk and go sit up there. Whoever that person is who's
• 1:01:32
  listen and you need to get real with God and you need to say I'm
• 1:01:36
  repenting of these things that I've went through.
• 1:01:39
  And if if the spirit pricks you and says to say it out loud,
• 1:01:42
  hey, I'm repenting of lust or what, whatever that may be,
• 1:01:46
  follow that The reward is greater than we even have time
• 1:01:50
  to try to explain. And with everything that's going
• 1:01:53
  on right now, I would not be playing around with salvation.
• 1:01:55
  You guys, you are. You are welcome to to come and
• 1:01:59
  ask these questions and be a part of what God is doing,
• 1:02:02
  because this is not one man. There's not a man fronting this
• 1:02:04
  whole thing. There's not one ministry,
• 1:02:06
  There's not one guy who's standing up.
• 1:02:08
  This is a body. We're dwelling together in
• 1:02:11
  unity, in an agreement, and we're praising the name that is
• 1:02:14
  above every name. And we're sharing weird stories.
• 1:02:17
  Yeah, Gary Wayne. The same time all this is
• 1:02:19
  happening with Dan Duvall and Klaus and all these different
• 1:02:22
  ministries that are reaching out and all the stuff's going on.
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  I drop an episode with Gary Wayne called Sinocephaly Dog
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  Man, Werewolves and lichens. Yeah, and we go through a crazy
• 1:02:31
  word and root study about where all of these beast style
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  creatures are right there, Biblically, like the case that's
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  argued from the root study. Like you would just have to have
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  your ears plugged. Na na na, you can't tell me
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  nothing if if you can't listen to that and be like, oh, I can
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  never see my Bible the same now. So it was like all of this is
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  happening side by side. It's not just fringe.
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  It's not just it. It's all a part of God's plan.
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  It is fringe. We're winning souls.
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  We're growing in ministry. We're being led by the spirit of
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  the living God. And this is closer.
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  We're not. I don't think we've arrived
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  there yet, gentlemen, but we are getting closer to what the Bible
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  states the church should look like, the Ecclesia should look
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  like. So passing it on now to someone
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  else. Whoo, Amen.
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  Yeah. I'm just going to interject some
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  Hallelujahs until somebody else talks.
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  That's probably the best way to go about it.
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  Are we talking about, are we going to be church or are we
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  not? Are we going to just sit here?
• 1:03:32
  Are we going to be like a little bit, a little bit more
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  charismatic, guys, Haley? Yeah, we got somebody's got
• 1:03:39
  their hands raised. Somebody's got to be jumping
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  around with some spirit flags or something.
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  There's one thing Rod from our last church like traditional
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  church that we went to our small group asked because they were
• 1:03:53
  listening to Luke and I in our show in the in the first few
• 1:03:57
  months. And they weren't being critical
• 1:04:00
  or anything, but they just kind of asked like where is the
• 1:04:02
  gospel in it. And I had to keep reverting back
• 1:04:06
  to the late Michael Heizer going to these conferences and people
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  there being inference interested in.
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  Biblical things more so. I really think we have a
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  platform when we talk about the weird and the fascinating.
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  Yeah, it's fleshly. Yeah, it's soulish, you know,
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  But that's part of how we're made.
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  Like, you know, food tastes good.
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  Good music sounds good to our ears, right.
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  So yeah, fascinating stories can pull you in and now you can go
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  here, let me tell you the bigger story.
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  Right. So.
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  Good stuff. And yeah, I think we have a lot
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  of opportunity here to answer a lot of really cool questions and
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  to and to just drive this, this conversation, you know, we know,
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  we know that it's, it's a big responsibility.
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  But people aren't talking about the Holy Spirit enough, You
• 1:05:05
  know, people, people aren't talking about the works of the
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  disciples. You know, Everybody wants to
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  talk about the works of Jesus. But are we talking about the
• 1:05:14
  works of the disciples? We've got all of these guys
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  walking around the earth that have been given authority right
• 1:05:21
  through Jesus Christ and what he's done.
• 1:05:23
  And they're they're just changing the world.
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  They're able to speak many different languages.
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  All of a sudden they're able to, you know, heal the sick.
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  They're able to do all kinds of things that nobody had seen
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  happen before. And and nowadays we're talking
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  about like, how, well, you know, we can't do any of that stuff.
• 1:05:46
  That was back then. Jesus, Jesus is the same
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  yesterday, today and forever. But we can't.
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  His message and what he was doing that's in the past.
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  And you're like, well, that doesn't jive with me.
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  That doesn't make any sense. Yeah.
• 1:06:06
  So one question that. That we got when we were
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  promoting this, this collaboration that we're doing
• 1:06:12
  now, this idea for questions you wish you could ask your your
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  church or afraid to ask, or all of that.
• 1:06:21
  We got a question from a listener on demons, he said.
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  Who are they? What are their tactics, their
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  origins? Can they be redeemed?
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  Basically The Who, what, where, when and how.
• 1:06:36
  I wanna, I wanna let you guys obviously chime in for that.
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  But it's on. It's on my listening list, my
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  Audible book list, to to go through Doctor Michael Heizer's
• 1:06:47
  book on demons. Again.
• 1:06:51
  Ryan Peterson, in his book Judgment of the Nephilim lays
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  out a pretty good case biblically, not even from the
• 1:06:57
  Book of Enoch, which which you can draw on, but just biblically
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  for demons to be the departed spirits of the dead Nephilim.
• 1:07:06
  The Book of Enoch further elaborates on that, but if you
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  just stuck with Biblically, Ryan does a good job on that.
• 1:07:16
  Luke we we had an episode months ago where we dug into the word
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  study a bit. The Strong's Concordance on
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  unclean spirits, and one of the definitions of unclean was a
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  mixture or an impure mixture. And I and I remember saying, I
• 1:07:37
  think that's very fascinating because you have an unclean
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  mixture of a elohim, you know, angelic spirit involved with
• 1:07:49
  humans that should never have been created.
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  It is an abomination and that's by definition unclean.
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  It's an impure mixture. You know, if you were to think
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  of working in a lab setting or a scientist, that you have a pure.
• 1:08:04
  Solution of something unadulterated that you need to
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  use for a test. If you had impurities in there,
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  you would not be able to do that test properly.
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  So that word unclean is used, and I think it's hinting at that
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  mixture of seed. Wow.
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  And if you look at Jesus's ministry in the Gospels, right,
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  he obviously identified an unclean mixture.
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  In individuals that were manifesting around him, and he
• 1:08:39
  was, and this was a human right that had an unclean mixture of a
• 1:08:46
  demon. We don't know how it got in
• 1:08:50
  there, what the doorway was, but he identified it and it's some a
• 1:08:54
  lot of cases. They were manifesting certain
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  things. Deafness, dumbness, causing a
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  child to be thrown into the fire.
• 1:09:03
  Right. So just another example of an
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  unclean mixture that you're referencing as far as a demon
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  that was, you know, in the Gospels.
• 1:09:17
  Yeah, as far as demons go, it's really interesting because we we
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  all have to remember that everything that we are
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  experiencing. Is is time and space and matter
• 1:09:28
  and all of those different things.
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  But that's just because that's how God designed it, right?
• 1:09:32
  But he's outside of that and we have to open up.
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  That's what I was talking about before.
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  We have to open up our scope to the fact that there is so much
• 1:09:40
  more going on than than you could even understand.
• 1:09:43
  There's frequencies that you can't hear.
• 1:09:45
  We already know that dogs can hear frequencies that we can't
• 1:09:48
  hear, or they can smell better than we can, or they can.
• 1:09:51
  You know, there's all of these different animals that can see
• 1:09:54
  better than we can. And So what are they seeing?
• 1:09:57
  How are they able to distinguish how?
• 1:09:59
  How do they have these certain senses that help them to
• 1:10:02
  understand storms are coming and and they need to move out of
• 1:10:06
  that area. All of those different things
• 1:10:08
  that they're tuned into spiritually, that's some people
• 1:10:12
  would call it, you know, instinct.
• 1:10:14
  It's it's it's a spiritual connection.
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  It's everything around us outside of.
• 1:10:21
  Of this time and space and matter and everything that we
• 1:10:23
  understand is spirit. And we are filled with, you
• 1:10:28
  know, the indwelling of those spirits.
• 1:10:30
  And so when Jesus says to test the spirits and when Paul says
• 1:10:34
  to test the spirits, we all know that they're talking about, you
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  know, or or or a lot of people at church think that they're
• 1:10:41
  testing these, you know, ghosts or these woo, woo spirits that
• 1:10:46
  are flying all around. But each and every one of us has
• 1:10:49
  a spirit within us. And are we testing those spirits
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  and are we allowing, you know, are the Holy Spirit living
• 1:10:57
  within us to discern the spirit that's standing in front of us
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  in the form of a human being? But they are indwelled with the
• 1:11:04
  spirit. So we have to be sure to
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  remember that we're not only are we testing the spirits that are
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  that are in woo woo land, but we're also testing the spirits
• 1:11:13
  that are standing right in front of us.
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  Who is this person and what kind of an agenda do they have
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  because? We have to understand when God
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  says that we can be filled with the Holy Spirit.
• 1:11:24
  We have to really now start figuring out what that means,
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  right? What does it mean to be filled
• 1:11:31
  with the Holy Spirit? And how is it that my spirit
• 1:11:33
  moves over out of the way and allows another spirit to come
• 1:11:37
  in, right? We have the we have the guy that
• 1:11:41
  Jesus cast the spirit out of. He said his name is Legion, so
• 1:11:45
  there was obviously a whole group.
• 1:11:48
  Of demons living in this one dude.
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  So it must be possible that there are real ability to have
• 1:11:56
  multiple spirits within one container, if you will, right?
• 1:12:00
  And so the whole idea of understanding being indwelled
• 1:12:03
  with the Holy Spirit is the same idea of being indwelled with a
• 1:12:07
  demon. You know, it's it's moving your
• 1:12:10
  spirit out of the way and allowing another spirit to come
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  in and take control. So I want to share this original
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  thought that I had recently that was driving me crazy And and I
• 1:12:21
  need this is the place to say it, right.
• 1:12:23
  It's like, so we're learning about frequency, we're learning
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  about materials like as in, you know, if you have Onyx or you
• 1:12:30
  have sapphire and any stones, right.
• 1:12:32
  We're just rock of the field. You have rocks, stones,
• 1:12:35
  whatever. Why is it that I get a ton of
• 1:12:38
  reports from old houses, historical homes, having
• 1:12:42
  residual hauntings and I'm like, well, if materials can like
• 1:12:48
  natural materials like like a stone from the field, can I
• 1:12:51
  actually absorb information and hold information?
• 1:12:55
  Can something in the spiritual world have the legal rights to
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  almost treat what happened when there was a significant output
• 1:13:02
  of energy, like a DVD that they can pop into the player and hit
• 1:13:06
  play. Right.
• 1:13:07
  So these old houses, have they absorbed so much energy and
• 1:13:10
  frequency from all these different things that you got
• 1:13:12
  this I grew up personally in a 300 year old famous Philadelphia
• 1:13:15
  farmhouse, right? And there was weird things about
• 1:13:18
  the house and weird parts of the house and there was a famous
• 1:13:20
  Philadelphia painter that that did all these battles of
• 1:13:23
  Gettysburg that are in our state museum here in PA right.
• 1:13:27
  And it was like this is really weird.
• 1:13:28
  So but the connection is if material like Jesus says, even
• 1:13:35
  the rocks would cry out if the people didn't worship him.
• 1:13:39
  Well, are demons who have legal rights tormenting people with
• 1:13:43
  residual hauntings. Because let's just say maybe
• 1:13:45
  they're not saved. There's no anointing in the
• 1:13:47
  spirit world, and they're going in and the demons are treating
• 1:13:50
  the old materials. They're like a reoccurring DVD
• 1:13:52
  player where they're just hitting play, rewind play,
• 1:13:54
  rewind and tormenting these people.
• 1:13:56
  I don't know why I just had to drop that.
• 1:13:57
  I didn't want to forget that one.
• 1:13:59
  It was driving me nuts. But how did how it all connects
• 1:14:02
  back to like the demon stuff? In a nutshell, what are the
• 1:14:05
  demons tactics that that's one of them in my opinion there's a
• 1:14:08
  demonic tactic. A foul spirit is going to do
• 1:14:11
  foul things right. Unclean spirits.
• 1:14:16
  Think about the kind of stuff that that they do.
• 1:14:18
  Think about the antidotical evidence.
• 1:14:19
  Let's see what the Bible says about foul spirits.
• 1:14:22
  We see people rolling and gnashing at the mouth foaming,
• 1:14:25
  right? We see people with a dumb spirit
• 1:14:26
  that can't even they can't talk or comprehend.
• 1:14:29
  We see all kinds of different things that that the Bible shown
• 1:14:32
  is the legion that, I mean, look at a Roman legion that that's a
• 1:14:35
  whole fleet of Roman soldiers. And another interesting thing
• 1:14:39
  that you brought up about that Rick is nobody could bind the
• 1:14:43
  guy who had the legion in him. So there was a physical
• 1:14:45
  attribute to the inhabitation of the spirit in his vessel, right?
• 1:14:51
  So he's just a mere man sitting there chilling.
• 1:14:53
  But now all these legions of spirits are in the guy that
• 1:14:56
  Jesus is commanding them out into the pigs, and he's
• 1:14:58
  manifesting supernatural strength.
• 1:15:01
  You ever see a Buddhist monk? Or you ever see somebody in a
• 1:15:03
  different religion levitate 10 feet off the ground while
• 1:15:06
  praying? Oh yeah, wonder how they do that
• 1:15:10
  right? Wonder what power that's being
• 1:15:11
  done by. And just a comment real quick
• 1:15:14
  before I pass it on to somebody else about the tactics of
• 1:15:16
  demons. When the apostles were walking
• 1:15:18
  by in the book of Acts, even their shadow was healing people.
• 1:15:23
  So we need to know what the truth is and what it's not in
• 1:15:27
  order for us to grow and actually know who we're serving
• 1:15:30
  so we can graduate to that kind of level, like I'm writing.
• 1:15:34
  Let me interrupt you because right when you said Shadow, I've
• 1:15:37
  got a comment from Brandon Spain on Refined Podcast and he said
• 1:15:41
  Truth and Shadow podcast. I think I need to read his
• 1:15:44
  comment because as I was writing, we're shadowing it.
• 1:15:47
  That's a time thing. So do it.
• 1:15:48
  Yeah, go with it. Let me scroll.
• 1:15:52
  I'm I'm reading off of the Spreaker French radio network
• 1:15:54
  where we're live right now but and welcome Troy.
• 1:15:58
  So there's a a book called Evil Archaeology Truth and Shadow
• 1:16:02
  podcast is going to interview the lady that wrote this book
• 1:16:05
  and it's about Mesopotamian, the Mesopotamian Mesopotamians.
• 1:16:09
  Mesopotamians using demons to fight other demons.
• 1:16:13
  What do you think about that? Anybody want to go?
• 1:16:18
  Yeah, Well, I mean. That's like what Solomon was
• 1:16:21
  doing, right? Like he was using the ring of
• 1:16:23
  Solomon. However, to the.
• 1:16:24
  Demon I was just gonna war with each other.
• 1:16:26
  Yeah, before you jumped in, Michael, I was just gonna
• 1:16:28
  comment on the on the residual in a house thing, 'cause we had
• 1:16:32
  Bill Schneebel in on. Yeah.
• 1:16:34
  And he was, yeah, he was talking about.
• 1:16:39
  He had, he has sometimes a gift of seeing.
• 1:16:41
  And he saw in a room blood all over the walls.
• 1:16:45
  And God's spirit told him that that was because that people
• 1:16:50
  there had frequently used God's name in vain, and it was like
• 1:16:53
  throwing blood on the walls. So there's definitely things
• 1:16:56
  that can happen that way. But now I lost.
• 1:17:01
  I lost what I was just going to say, Michael to your.
• 1:17:03
  Thanks for keeping the train of thought the audience is like.
• 1:17:05
  Going to hate wait. And then?
• 1:17:07
  And then. And then what?
• 1:17:08
  What? What?
• 1:17:09
  And then Michael's like I just read Shadow, and you said
• 1:17:12
  shadow. It's like the most annoying
• 1:17:14
  thing. You know, Steve Quayle used to
• 1:17:16
  do that all the time. He'd be like, oh, good night.
• 1:17:18
  We're well, we I've been, I've had whiskey with these top level
• 1:17:22
  generals and they were telling me about off planet generals
• 1:17:29
  stationed on off on Andromeda. And you know what?
• 1:17:32
  It really annoys me that LGBT you're like, wait, wait, no, no,
• 1:17:35
  no, go back. Go.
• 1:17:39
  Back. No to Michael's question, Pete,
• 1:17:46
  if you remember Phil Schneb, Schneblin was talking about this
• 1:17:51
  before he came to Christ. How he was deceived where that's
• 1:17:57
  the one. One thank you aspect of his
• 1:18:01
  beliefs was defeating another aspect and but both of them were
• 1:18:05
  ungodly. So he used enemy will, used the
• 1:18:09
  tactic of deception. In these cultures, you know and
• 1:18:15
  and they're still enslaved. Whether it's one demon beating
• 1:18:18
  another demon, it's not really beating anybody or coming out
• 1:18:23
  victorious. It's all a play on steal, kill
• 1:18:27
  and destroy. Keep you in a deceived mindset.
• 1:18:31
  Think, oh, I actually accomplished something with this
• 1:18:34
  belief because this person got better.
• 1:18:37
  Did they really? Yes.
• 1:18:38
  Maybe it was a fake healing. It's it's a lure.
• 1:18:41
  No, you're absolutely right and thank you.
• 1:18:42
  That is exactly what I was trying to remember after my
• 1:18:45
  comment about the Bloody Room was yes, he used his occultic
• 1:18:50
  knowledge cause Bill Bill Schneebeln's got a crazy story,
• 1:18:53
  He was a Druid, A Freemason, A Satanist, a witch.
• 1:18:56
  I mean, just incredible story, but.
• 1:19:00
  He was before Christ, he was using his occult knowledge to
• 1:19:03
  deal with the haunting that he had created in a school because
• 1:19:07
  he had done a seance. So the seance opened up
• 1:19:10
  hauntings for like 2 years and then he found like a book of
• 1:19:13
  magic or something and he used this spell and it worked.
• 1:19:17
  But I think, to Luke's point, that's the where, that's where
• 1:19:20
  Satan lures you in with the occult to say, ah, it has power
• 1:19:26
  and and you're in. You're puffed up by that.
• 1:19:29
  Because he, he wants to take, you know, he gives you a little
• 1:19:32
  something, but he wants to take more from you, of course.
• 1:19:36
  No, I want to kind of flip the script here a little bit and
• 1:19:38
  head in the direction to plant some seeds for future
• 1:19:41
  conversations of things that are super relevant with regards to
• 1:19:45
  things that need to be talked about in the church.
• 1:19:47
  And Michael Basham, we've had this conversation personally, I
• 1:19:52
  don't know half a dozen times over the last like month or two,
• 1:19:54
  right. About what about this millennial
• 1:19:57
  reign, What's really going on in the Book of Revelation?
• 1:20:00
  Like where are we at in the timeline?
• 1:20:02
  How do we find out people are saying, oh I'm post millennial,
• 1:20:04
  I'm premillennial, I'm pre tribulation, we're going to get
• 1:20:07
  raptured and it's like rapture's not there in this scenario.
• 1:20:12
  Harpazzo of removing or snatching away.
• 1:20:14
  It's the same word that was used in Exodus.
• 1:20:17
  They were still when the blood was spread over the doorway.
• 1:20:20
  They weren't snatched up and away.
• 1:20:22
  Like Philip was when he was preaching to the Ethiopian
• 1:20:25
  harpazoed, but the concept is the same, that there was an
• 1:20:29
  Angel of death that came through Egypt and was killing all all
• 1:20:32
  the first born Egyptians. But the Israelites were right in
• 1:20:34
  the midst of them and they still were harpazoed.
• 1:20:38
  So there's some really interesting discussion on that.
• 1:20:40
  But Michael, I want you to just kind of plant a couple seeds
• 1:20:43
  because we have this epic, you know, collaboration coming up
• 1:20:47
  between me and you. And we're going to dive into
• 1:20:49
  this millennial reign of Christ and we're going to talk about
• 1:20:52
  some really weird stuff that most people are like, why don't
• 1:20:55
  I, why? Why am I not aware of that?
• 1:20:57
  Where does that fit in? Well, that's going to be a whole
• 1:21:00
  show. You know, you you kind of have
• 1:21:03
  to quit your job. Get out of America for a few
• 1:21:06
  years and just read the Bible. You know, maybe join a cult or
• 1:21:11
  two every once in a while, but just, you know, sit under.
• 1:21:13
  I used to sit under this ancient tree in Tokyo alone.
• 1:21:15
  I was just a student. I was not in a cult.
• 1:21:18
  I was just. I'm being silly.
• 1:21:19
  Don't join the cult. And I would start reading Isaiah
• 1:21:23
  like Ezekiel, Jeremiah. Like I never sat down or read
• 1:21:27
  those books. You're always marching around
• 1:21:29
  like you must do the homework assignments.
• 1:21:31
  You must get a part time job. You must go to the party.
• 1:21:33
  You must learn the language. And so it was like the Holy
• 1:21:36
  Spirit just had me read the Bible.
• 1:21:39
  And then in that, in that context of being away from
• 1:21:42
  America and just seeing everything in the big picture
• 1:21:44
  and really reading the whole Bible and then a few people came
• 1:21:48
  along were like, you really need to look at the Millennium, like
• 1:21:50
  this is the big thing that's coming.
• 1:21:53
  It's not even the end of the world.
• 1:21:54
  The Antichrist. It's like the Millennium is the
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  big one and it's the Bible is full of this, 1000 years of us
• 1:22:03
  reigning with Jesus Christ for 1000 years.
• 1:22:05
  And then at the end of that one more test and then.
• 1:22:08
  Earth gets destroyed completely, another Rapture, and then it's
• 1:22:11
  just the end of World history. And prophets like Neville
• 1:22:15
  Johnson have spoken that and he's not a Mormon, don't worry.
• 1:22:18
  But like at the end when the New Jerusalem comes down, the
• 1:22:22
  celestial gigantic city and it lands on the earth, if you take
• 1:22:25
  the Bible literally, literally, which I recommend people do as
• 1:22:29
  much as possible. There is some figurative and
• 1:22:31
  symbology and stuff in Revelations, but just take it.
• 1:22:34
  I mean, the Angel was measuring the New Jerusalem.
• 1:22:36
  The thing is the size of the moon.
• 1:22:38
  Still not that big compared to all the galaxies out there and
• 1:22:42
  all the stars that that we're going to begin to colonize.
• 1:22:46
  And the people of God are going to basically be the shepherds of
• 1:22:49
  humanity to just start filling space.
• 1:22:53
  I mean, it's going to be crazy. Like, Elon Musk has got a good
• 1:22:56
  vision on that point. And I know some listeners are
• 1:22:59
  like not talking to you guys right now.
• 1:23:04
  I just love you. We're not having that
• 1:23:07
  conversation at this moment, but the millennial reign of Christ
• 1:23:10
  is coming and and we're going to get into it.
• 1:23:12
  And like every little skill that you have, I have a degree in
• 1:23:15
  Chinese and Chinese history and culture and whatever.
• 1:23:18
  I never use it. But I'm going to in the
• 1:23:20
  Millennium, I'm going to be working with the Chinese.
• 1:23:23
  I love their culture. Maybe I'll go back again.
• 1:23:26
  Japanese too, who has time to, to do all the things they want
• 1:23:30
  to do in this life. Every skill that you have, every
• 1:23:33
  like handyman skill. Architecture people, person,
• 1:23:38
  you're going to be using it during the millennial reign in
• 1:23:41
  that period of time. So we're going to do a show
• 1:23:42
  about that and it's going to be fun.
• 1:23:44
  I just I like to focus more on that than Jesus is coming back.
• 1:23:49
  But we're all the Antichrist is going to kill everybody 1st and
• 1:23:51
  you know run. You know like more canned food,
• 1:23:54
  more canned food. And it's it's it's tiring.
• 1:23:58
  Like more gold, more guns more and.
• 1:24:00
  I mean, if we die tomorrow, then what was the point of all that?
• 1:24:04
  You know, like we've got to have a plan, a long term plan and a
• 1:24:07
  vision of hope to give people and the Millennium.
• 1:24:09
  Is that anyway? Thank you for asking.
• 1:24:13
  Yeah. And I wanted to plant that seed
• 1:24:15
  for the excitement of what's to come there because I don't
• 1:24:17
  really hear anybody else talking about that.
• 1:24:21
  You know, there's not really much of that ripple effect going
• 1:24:23
  on out there. And I've gotten from my
• 1:24:26
  daughter's, man, she's going to be 16 in, like, what, two
• 1:24:29
  months? And it's relevant among her
• 1:24:32
  friends and her conversation. Like, I literally was out in
• 1:24:34
  Ohio or I don't know, like a month or two ago, like preaching
• 1:24:37
  the gospel on porches in Ohio to like my daughter and her
• 1:24:40
  friends. And they're like, they have
• 1:24:41
  these questions and I'm like, this is crazy cool, you know
• 1:24:44
  what I mean? And then we hit Youngstown, OH,
• 1:24:47
  with Klaus. And we're we're doing spiritual
• 1:24:49
  mapping and praying through there.
• 1:24:51
  And and it's like this, this stuff is happening.
• 1:24:53
  We went through the whole state of PA from border to border and
• 1:24:55
  did like, you know, like this crazy prayer drive.
• 1:24:57
  It was a while ago, but this stuff is going on and and I just
• 1:25:02
  want to read some scripture here real quick.
• 1:25:04
  And then you, you know somebody else jump in, you comment on
• 1:25:07
  whatever you want. Bring another question up,
• 1:25:09
  comment on the millennial stuff. But this is Isaiah 60 and we're
• 1:25:13
  going to start in verse one. I'm just going to read a couple
• 1:25:16
  couple lines here. Arise and shine, for thy light
• 1:25:20
  is come, and the glory of the Lord is risen upon thee.
• 1:25:25
  For behold, the darkness shall cover the earth, and gross
• 1:25:29
  darkness the people. But the Lord shall arise upon
• 1:25:32
  thee, and his glory shall be seen upon thee.
• 1:25:36
  And the Gentiles shall come to thy light, and the kings to the
• 1:25:41
  brightness of thy rising. Nice.
• 1:25:47
  I wanted to round out a little bit that the demon question
• 1:25:50
  again because he was asking about can they be redeemed?
• 1:25:55
  I I feel like I don't think there is any biblical precedent
• 1:25:58
  for that that I think in in God's rule book you know that's
• 1:26:04
  a that's a human thing as far as redemption.
• 1:26:09
  But the other point I wanted to make is that I I think, I think
• 1:26:14
  we're a three-part being, and I know it's very controversial
• 1:26:18
  whether Christians can have demons.
• 1:26:21
  But the way that it's helped me to understand it is.
• 1:26:27
  And this goes back to salvation too, right?
• 1:26:29
  So let me just lay this out in a couple minutes real quick.
• 1:26:33
  God said when they ate of the fruit in the garden Garden of
• 1:26:37
  Eden that they on that day they would surely die.
• 1:26:40
  Well, we know they didn't stop being having their
• 1:26:43
  personalities. OK, so their soul didn't die.
• 1:26:47
  We know that they didn't drop dead.
• 1:26:49
  That day, so their body didn't die.
• 1:26:51
  Those two things are intact. Now Fast forward to Paul, he
• 1:26:54
  says If you confess with your mouth, body and believe in your
• 1:26:58
  heart soul, you will be saved. Spirit.
• 1:27:03
  So the spirit is what died. We can prove that just right
• 1:27:06
  there. So a Christian can have a demon
• 1:27:11
  howl because the demon resides in the body and the soul.
• 1:27:15
  It doesn't reside in the part of the body that is the spirit.
• 1:27:19
  That is the Holy Spirit's place. So that's how I understand that
• 1:27:23
  it can work. And if you look at the
• 1:27:27
  experience of people in Deliverance, I mean, Michael,
• 1:27:30
  I'm sure you could speak to this much better being involved with
• 1:27:33
  the Prince Ministries. But these are Christians.
• 1:27:38
  They're counseling for everything that we can tell.
• 1:27:40
  These are genuine believers that are being vexed by unclean
• 1:27:45
  spirits. So I just want to make that
• 1:27:47
  point. Well, that's the whole I I don't
• 1:27:51
  know who commented on this, but and I'm no deliverance past or
• 1:27:56
  anything. I just, you know, very
• 1:27:57
  interested in the whole the aspects of the mysteries of the
• 1:28:01
  Spirit. I don't think anybody really
• 1:28:03
  understands fully the Spirit. That's why we need the Bible.
• 1:28:08
  But what who commented about like you can have kind of like
• 1:28:12
  residual you know stuff in your system.
• 1:28:16
  That's just. Maybe wounded.
• 1:28:18
  And then it's like you have like a an open wound and you can even
• 1:28:22
  get like, maggots crawling under your skin.
• 1:28:23
  But it doesn't mean that you're a bad person.
• 1:28:25
  Just means you left. You left that untouched.
• 1:28:27
  You know, you got that festering wound of unforgiveness going on.
• 1:28:32
  And then and people can now look at the look at the trans
• 1:28:37
  community. They're like all they're not
• 1:28:39
  gay. Remember, gay was like, oh, I'm
• 1:28:41
  so happy, wow, gay. You know, I'm Tim Cook.
• 1:28:47
  Now it's like, I mean, I've met some really, really wounded kids
• 1:28:52
  that are trans, 'cause I was doing a restaurant in Honolulu
• 1:28:55
  and I met some so many people and I remember there was this
• 1:28:58
  seething entity that I was bringing alcohol to, Probably
• 1:29:03
  should have not done that. And at the end of the of the the
• 1:29:08
  night, this person was just sitting there all weird and just
• 1:29:11
  like seething and then oh, can I see your ID please?
• 1:29:16
  Oh, oh, yeah. OK.
• 1:29:17
  Thank you, Sir. And I mean the IT was a dude,
• 1:29:19
  but, oh, the ID had a girl's picture on it.
• 1:29:21
  And I was. I had like 10 tables.
• 1:29:23
  I was working at Buffalo Wild ring, Buffalo Wild Wings, goofy
• 1:29:27
  stories. This person, I just got this
• 1:29:29
  feeling like this person, I can tell they are full of demons.
• 1:29:33
  And like, if ever this communist revolution takes place that
• 1:29:36
  we've been hearing about, this is the kind of person that would
• 1:29:39
  probably take pleasure in like burying me under 10 inches of
• 1:29:43
  dirt. Like, thinking they were doing
• 1:29:45
  the right thing for their thing. And so then I go back to pick up
• 1:29:48
  the check, the person left, and I look at it and there's this
• 1:29:50
  long letter of hatred and just this filth and like, making
• 1:29:56
  like, comments about how I looked and just like it was just
• 1:29:58
  this demon. It was just and it was all
• 1:30:00
  because I didn't use the right gender pronoun.
• 1:30:04
  It's the only time it's ever happened.
• 1:30:06
  But I remember thinking like I was busy.
• 1:30:08
  I didn't have time to like, squint and be like, oh, you're
• 1:30:11
  dressed in drag there. It was just this and I had that
• 1:30:15
  that picture of like this is somebody that's really full of
• 1:30:18
  bitterness and anger and and then now what are we seeing?
• 1:30:22
  I mean not to get this band on YouTube, but we're seeing like
• 1:30:24
  the the so-called you know the the minority persecuted trans
• 1:30:30
  going in and shooting up Christian schools full of kids.
• 1:30:32
  And then their their letter came out and they're just full of
• 1:30:35
  like this vile just you. You can't wait to kill it.
• 1:30:40
  You know, this is, we're going down some dark paths here.
• 1:30:43
  The new Rick and Morty episode, it's about cannibalism.
• 1:30:46
  Do not watch it. It's disgusting.
• 1:30:48
  I was like, trying to eat. Watching Rick and Morty.
• 1:30:49
  I'm like, like, it was all about eating dead bodies.
• 1:30:55
  Where is this going, guys? Like, where is the world going?
• 1:30:58
  We got to protect our kids. Inspires me to hear Rod going on
• 1:31:02
  these faith trips, taking his teenagers out on this.
• 1:31:05
  And I mean, I was sheltered from the world.
• 1:31:07
  My parents sheltered me a lot. Did it turn me into some evil
• 1:31:11
  weirdo? No.
• 1:31:12
  I I went further. I went even more into like,
• 1:31:16
  gosh, like the world is crappy and stupid.
• 1:31:18
  I'm gonna go learn Japanese and Japan for a few years.
• 1:31:21
  Like our kids should be given that protection so then they can
• 1:31:24
  take on Anyway. I'm getting into another field,
• 1:31:26
  but it's just it's heartbreaking to be in America and just to
• 1:31:30
  see. What they're doing everywhere
• 1:31:33
  here, it's like literally a horror movie.
• 1:31:35
  These podcasts, your guys's shows are vital.
• 1:31:38
  These communication streams, fringe radio, network.
• 1:31:42
  It's just so important that we have this conversation.
• 1:31:46
  And let me just recommend Steve Harmon.
• 1:31:48
  Steve, Pete Harmon. We had him on Strange o'clock
• 1:31:50
  and he's been on my show. Thanks Pete for mentioning him.
• 1:31:53
  He's he's a brilliant guy on that so.
• 1:31:57
  I will shut up and let somebody else take the microphone.
• 1:32:00
  Thank you very much. So I think it would be kind of
• 1:32:04
  cool at this point like if we just do like a recap on each one
• 1:32:07
  of our shows and just kind of like re, you know, invite who we
• 1:32:12
  are and what we cover as and maybe recommend an episode from
• 1:32:17
  each one of your guys podcast like something like newer or
• 1:32:20
  what from whatever time. It doesn't matter.
• 1:32:22
  Like, just recommend something that like, you know, a lot of
• 1:32:25
  these listeners have the rest of the day today and it's like,
• 1:32:27
  here, go bite your teeth into this, you know what I mean?
• 1:32:30
  So I'll just go real quick. I'm rod with the Millennial
• 1:32:33
  Mustard Seed podcast. I've been on Fringe before with
• 1:32:37
  Mr. Michael Basham and you might have heard my voice through
• 1:32:41
  that. So Fringy or the De Zanella
• 1:32:42
  podcast, these guys reached out and interviewed me.
• 1:32:45
  And the idea is we're we're humbly pointing people back to
• 1:32:49
  the Messiah and we're not shying away from the weird topics.
• 1:32:52
  So this little mustard seed was planted a long time ago and the
• 1:32:56
  word says he who plants and he who waters.
• 1:33:00
  It's a good wage. It's a good labor, But God gets
• 1:33:02
  glory for the growth. And it's an honor to be able to
• 1:33:06
  serve in this way and just encourage people and be
• 1:33:09
  encouraged. Like, it's totally humbling to
• 1:33:11
  be here. Like, if I listen to the voices
• 1:33:15
  in my head years and years and years ago, I wouldn't even be
• 1:33:18
  alive. Let's put it that way.
• 1:33:20
  You know, so to see what God has done in order to be able to, you
• 1:33:24
  know, nurture and feed and and and that's another encouragement
• 1:33:27
  for somebody out there. Don't listen to the negative
• 1:33:29
  voice in your head. You have what it takes.
• 1:33:31
  You're more than a conqueror in Christ Jesus because there's
• 1:33:35
  other voices out there. Be careful which one you listen
• 1:33:38
  to. I am living proof of God's grace
• 1:33:40
  and how he can use a broken thing to do something amazing.
• 1:33:44
  And we express that here on the Mustard Seed Podcast.
• 1:33:48
  I dropped the episode recently where I actually recommend a
• 1:33:51
  bunch of other podcasts. And I read a bunch of the Apple
• 1:33:55
  reviews. You know, I share like, a audio
• 1:33:58
  message that was called in by like, another doctor.
• 1:34:01
  I got like, a bunch of doctors that want to talk to me and,
• 1:34:03
  like, get interviewed on the show now, which is like, really
• 1:34:05
  cool because I'm like, oh, like I didn't like, I don't have an
• 1:34:08
  education. Like, you know, I don't want to
• 1:34:10
  tell people where I actually stopped.
• 1:34:11
  But I'm like, oh, I'm unqualified, But but I think
• 1:34:14
  that's the signature of the Holy Spirit, you know, the uneducated
• 1:34:16
  fishermen, they were saying of them.
• 1:34:19
  Clearly these men have walked with the Lord because they're
• 1:34:22
  uneducated fishermen. And God is using the simple
• 1:34:25
  things to confound the wise and say that in all meekness and
• 1:34:29
  humility. Like that's with reserved power
• 1:34:31
  and humbleness. Like, I am nobody special, you
• 1:34:33
  guys. I'm not.
• 1:34:34
  That's why I'm a driving force to represent other members of
• 1:34:38
  the body. You know, the podcast, like, I
• 1:34:39
  don't have it all figured out. Like, I based a lot of my show
• 1:34:43
  around recommending other people that I see they're doing
• 1:34:45
  something right and just wanted to kind of wind down on my own
• 1:34:49
  snippet with that and then pass it on to the next person plug in
• 1:34:53
  episode. Tell us a bit about what you do
• 1:34:55
  on the podcast. What God is the vision that he's
• 1:34:58
  giving you? Yeah, we'll all go next, if
• 1:35:02
  that's OK with everybody. Again, for those listeners that
• 1:35:05
  maybe just jumped on, my name is Rick.
• 1:35:07
  I'm with. That's So Fringy podcast.
• 1:35:09
  It's a podcast that my wife and I do together with her sister.
• 1:35:13
  And a lot of it stemmed from just, you know, wanting to
• 1:35:17
  communicate the things that are going on in our world.
• 1:35:22
  And and how it relates back to this overarching war that we see
• 1:35:26
  going on in the Bible and how that that war that we see in the
• 1:35:30
  Bible never went away like that's that's actually still
• 1:35:33
  happening today. And and being aware of that is
• 1:35:37
  what leads us to to repentance and leads us to salvation,
• 1:35:42
  right? Being aware that there is a
• 1:35:44
  side. That you have to pick that you
• 1:35:47
  have to be able to make a decision at some point, right.
• 1:35:51
  And so we started out at the very beginning and and don't
• 1:35:56
  don't get on to us about the quality right of our first
• 1:36:00
  couple of episodes because I know more than you that they are
• 1:36:04
  garbage when it comes to quality.
• 1:36:06
  But the content, as we were beginning, we wanted to start
• 1:36:11
  with who are they? You know, cause a lot of times
• 1:36:13
  we talk about. Who are they?
• 1:36:16
  We get those questions from people where they say there is
• 1:36:20
  there is this entity or this force or this whatever that is
• 1:36:24
  doing this such and such thing. And the first question you
• 1:36:28
  always get is, well, who are they?
• 1:36:30
  Who are those people or who, who is that thing?
• 1:36:34
  And so we thought it would be a good idea to start with that.
• 1:36:37
  So we started with who are they one and who are they two?
• 1:36:39
  Those are the like first couple of episodes we have.
• 1:36:42
  And it was basically just stepping back and saying, OK,
• 1:36:46
  how did we get here? How did it begin in the Bible?
• 1:36:50
  And then how did we kind of roll downhill to where we are now?
• 1:36:53
  Because we can all probably agree that we we have rolled
• 1:36:56
  downhill, not uphill. But I think, I think we're on
• 1:37:01
  that pendulum swing and I've talked about this before where
• 1:37:04
  there is this downhill pendulum, but at some point that pendulum
• 1:37:07
  is going to swing back in our favor.
• 1:37:09
  And I believe that it is doing that now where there is a time
• 1:37:12
  of restoration and that pendulum is swinging to that to that
• 1:37:16
  point. And so that would be an episode
• 1:37:19
  or two episodes that I would recommend for us.
• 1:37:21
  We like to just talk about all kinds of things.
• 1:37:24
  We're going through a series right now on false flags and
• 1:37:27
  stuff like that. And I like to talk about some
• 1:37:29
  things that are political. Some people might not like
• 1:37:33
  political stuff, but it it all matters guys.
• 1:37:36
  We have to pull all of it into our scope.
• 1:37:39
  And say, how do all of these pieces fit?
• 1:37:42
  Because we're not going to throw out the Bible that stood the
• 1:37:45
  test of time, right? There's been book after book
• 1:37:47
  after book written on how the the test of time has not been
• 1:37:51
  able to kill this book. So if we're not going to throw
• 1:37:54
  out the Bible, then we need to figure out how everything else
• 1:37:57
  relates to it, because that's the source, right?
• 1:38:01
  Amen. Powerful.
• 1:38:05
  That's a really good point. People need to start with the
• 1:38:07
  Bible, the reality of the Bible. Amen.
• 1:38:10
  Yeah guys, it's great to be here to get to meet you Rick and and
• 1:38:14
  you Michael for the first time and privilege to be on this
• 1:38:19
  journey with you and the and for Luke and I doing this now a year
• 1:38:23
  plus and getting to know Rod and the connections there, it's been
• 1:38:27
  really great. I came across his show.
• 1:38:30
  I want to say maybe March this year some sometime around then.
• 1:38:34
  And we got connected. Heard him interviewing Doctor
• 1:38:37
  Laura Sanger and a few others that that Luke and I look up to
• 1:38:42
  for us. Our journey was through blurry
• 1:38:45
  creatures. Luke told me about the show and
• 1:38:47
  I got hooked. I was binging it one week at
• 1:38:50
  work where where it just so happened the project I was in.
• 1:38:53
  I was able to to listen over and over and about the 3rd or 4th
• 1:38:58
  day of the week I just felt this prompting like.
• 1:39:02
  We should do this. We should talk about these
• 1:39:04
  things. Not necessarily the creature
• 1:39:07
  thing, but but part of it. And and the and the big picture
• 1:39:12
  and and what's coming and the supernatural and all of that.
• 1:39:15
  And Genesis 6 giants. That was a huge one.
• 1:39:17
  I remember Luke introducing the word Nephilim to me many years
• 1:39:22
  ago with what was it? Randy Elkhorn Luke.
• 1:39:26
  What's that? No, I'm trying to think Randy
• 1:39:29
  domain. Randy domain.
• 1:39:30
  Sorry. Yes, I'm I botched that anyway.
• 1:39:33
  Yeah. And I was like what is this?
• 1:39:35
  So that's where we started. It was gonna be almost like a
• 1:39:39
  book club with Luke and I and maybe one or two other people
• 1:39:41
  having like a Saturday discussion and I had a Co worker
• 1:39:45
  of mine say you guys should record this.
• 1:39:48
  I'm like, Oh well that's a good idea.
• 1:39:50
  All right. Started recording it and then
• 1:39:53
  the wheels started spinning in my head creatively and I'm like,
• 1:39:56
  oh, I could put this out on the airwaves and.
• 1:39:59
  So I just want to encourage people to like have these
• 1:40:02
  discussions and if you feel like you want to have a voice of your
• 1:40:06
  own or you want to bring on others.
• 1:40:08
  Like Rod said we're we're small fish but you know we want to be
• 1:40:13
  faithful in the small things you know make make connections over
• 1:40:17
  time and don't feel like you have to have it all together and
• 1:40:22
  and let God run with it because I think I think God loves deed
• 1:40:26
  delights and and using the the simple things to.
• 1:40:30
  To to show up the whys. So a couple episodes to
• 1:40:33
  recommend for us on the days of Noah that Luke and I host is if
• 1:40:39
  you if you are very, very new to the topic of the supernatural in
• 1:40:45
  the Bible outside of you know, walking on water, the stories
• 1:40:49
  that we all kind of grew up with in Sunday school, things like
• 1:40:53
  the Nephilim in Genesis 6 and the reason for the flood.
• 1:40:56
  If you're very new to that, you will relate to how we kind of
• 1:41:00
  ease into it on episode one with Luke.
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  Myself and my friend Don and Don was a part of many of our
• 1:41:07
  earlier episodes. If you are a little farther
• 1:41:10
  along in that, I would jump Fast forward to episode 35 with Doug
• 1:41:15
  Van Dorn, origin of the Genesis 6 heresy.
• 1:41:20
  And to me, this is the if. If this episode could get 10
• 1:41:25
  times more plays than any of our other ones combined, I would be
• 1:41:28
  happy. Because again, I said it
• 1:41:32
  earlier, I think it's so crucial to understand the reason for why
• 1:41:36
  God did what he did with the flood, with the holy wars, with
• 1:41:40
  Joshua, and so on. You don't have a context for it
• 1:41:43
  without the Nephilim. You don't have a context for it
• 1:41:46
  without the the seat of the of Satan against the seat of the
• 1:41:51
  woman in Genesis 3 and Doug Van Dorn lays that out very, very
• 1:41:55
  clearly. And then beyond that I would say
• 1:41:58
  Gary Wayne episode 45 and 46 counterfeit Eden and the return
• 1:42:03
  of the Golden Age. That one blew my mind just how
• 1:42:08
  he laid out from the very get go how all of these false systems
• 1:42:13
  and religions started and what they've turned into so.
• 1:42:20
  Powerful. Yeah, it's good stuff.
• 1:42:24
  Well, are is it my turn or did we all go, I mean Mr. Basharam,
• 1:42:28
  it is your turn now to answer the questions.
• 1:42:33
  Last night's tutorial I know as far as my show that I do every
• 1:42:39
  day. I would just recommend people
• 1:42:41
  join us like in the live stream because at this point it's
• 1:42:44
  turning into kind of like Alex Jones, Infowars, like, it's just
• 1:42:48
  like. Shoot in here.
• 1:42:49
  We got to fight this battle. Who's in here to share the
• 1:42:52
  stream? You know, there's always
• 1:42:54
  something happening. I would say the local.
• 1:42:56
  The latest interview I did Spear Force was the team Waynesville,
• 1:43:01
  Stephanie Sutton. It's really important just so
• 1:43:03
  that you can see like how a local town could be your town
• 1:43:08
  and it's probably your town. But I mean, it took Supernatural
• 1:43:12
  Grace to see how they're infiltrating these towns and
• 1:43:16
  there's big money, George Soros money, coming in.
• 1:43:18
  And you could have a tiny little town in the middle of nowhere.
• 1:43:20
  They're coming in. You know this is the thing.
• 1:43:24
  You might say like, oh, I have a small podcast or whatever.
• 1:43:27
  No, like you're the podcast in your town.
• 1:43:30
  Like you're the guy. And we need to continue these
• 1:43:33
  shows. Fringe Radio Network has has
• 1:43:37
  gotten Spreaker Prime. So I would advise people that
• 1:43:40
  are, you know, if if you can handle us, I mean that we're
• 1:43:44
  pretty fringy but. There's there's an opportunity
• 1:43:48
  there to promote your shows more.
• 1:43:52
  It's the smaller networks though.
• 1:43:54
  Like that you might see a Steve Bannon crash and burn or a Trump
• 1:43:58
  go to jail or an Owen Shroyer or somebody like that.
• 1:44:00
  But like if you have two, if you have, they say too many
• 1:44:03
  podcasts. No, these are each one of you
• 1:44:06
  guys is vital. Like keep planting the seeds.
• 1:44:09
  Interview Gary Wayne every week. I bet you we should do a race.
• 1:44:13
  Like, who can interview Gary Wayne the most?
• 1:44:15
  You know, I love that guy. But also your voices are
• 1:44:19
  important. Do some solos like your
• 1:44:21
  monologues, like I'm, I'm most familiar with rods, but I mean
• 1:44:25
  his. The millennials are listening.
• 1:44:28
  They want to hear this, man. You have the cool factor.
• 1:44:32
  You make us all look cool. And then also you can connect
• 1:44:35
  with that generation your your daughters in that age, length,
• 1:44:40
  wavelength, age group, whatever we can.
• 1:44:43
  Look at it always like we're we're training others to train
• 1:44:46
  others to train others. And as far as interviews go,
• 1:44:50
  though, like, I'll be doing as many interviews as I can.
• 1:44:53
  Strange O'clock Podcast is really the flagship project that
• 1:44:56
  I get to be with with Jerrilyn. Kozak is we have a show with
• 1:44:59
  Derek Gilbert that I really liked.
• 1:45:01
  It was really cool to talk to the legend finally, like after
• 1:45:04
  years and and then finally don't if you listen to my stuff.
• 1:45:08
  Like sometimes I'll interview people and I don't agree with
• 1:45:11
  them, but I'm trying to witness to them.
• 1:45:13
  So don't be afraid to interview somebody that's trans or
• 1:45:17
  whatever and a witch. If God leaves you, be careful.
• 1:45:20
  Don't just do it all the time. Some people have gotten, some
• 1:45:23
  people have turned to the dark side of the falls, you know,
• 1:45:26
  listening too much to that stuff.
• 1:45:27
  But we're focusing on the Super soldier program people James
• 1:45:30
  Rink, people that like the James Casbull stuff, the really crazy,
• 1:45:34
  weird off planet occult stuff. I got Intercessors behind me.
• 1:45:39
  I got, you know, Derek Prince Ministries praying for me.
• 1:45:41
  But we went in and we prayed with James Rink to receive
• 1:45:44
  Jesus. And this guy is like a hub of
• 1:45:46
  all these New Agers super soldier talk YouTube channel.
• 1:45:50
  He received Jesus. I don't know if he realizes it,
• 1:45:53
  but you know, it was kind of one of those like pray with me, you
• 1:45:56
  know, I don't know what you guys think of the salvation prayer,
• 1:45:58
  but I think it works better, It better work, you know, how do
• 1:46:03
  you get saved otherwise? Confess, you know, repent.
• 1:46:08
  But confess. Jesus Christ is Lord and you
• 1:46:11
  will be saved. Anyway, we're at war operation
• 1:46:15
  and this is a military and we need soldiers all the time.
• 1:46:18
  So this is a round table of nights.
• 1:46:20
  And I applaud Rod for putting this together.
• 1:46:23
  And we're live again on fringe radio network.
• 1:46:26
  Thank you for allowing us to do that.
• 1:46:27
  And then maybe tell us where the video is going to be too.
• 1:46:33
  Yeah, so this will be uploaded onto my podcast.
• 1:46:37
  On the Millennium Mustard Seed, I'm going to send the audio and
• 1:46:40
  video files to each one of you guys.
• 1:46:42
  If you feel led to upload it to your Youtubes.
• 1:46:44
  If you got a Rumble account, I'm going to put it on YouTube.
• 1:46:47
  I'll put it on Rumble. It'll be on the Mustard Seed.
• 1:46:50
  So, and anybody else who is here on this majestic mashup who
• 1:46:55
  wants to share this as well beyond just the live beyond the
• 1:46:58
  Mustard Seed, let's send the Ripple Wave out there.
• 1:47:02
  Let's get this message out there.
• 1:47:04
  We are a team. We are like minded.
• 1:47:07
  There's one spirit, one truth and one baptism, and clearly a
• 1:47:12
  diversity of gifts and a lot of awesome questions yet.
• 1:47:17
  And it looks like Rick has one right now.
• 1:47:19
  So Rick, what do you got? Yeah, it's not a question.
• 1:47:22
  I just wanted to let everybody know that we, we don't want to
• 1:47:24
  come into this and act like we have all the answers and that
• 1:47:27
  we're that your local pastor or your local church isn't
• 1:47:31
  sufficient or that or that none, none of it that's going on there
• 1:47:34
  is worth it. We're not saying that.
• 1:47:36
  What we're saying is, is we need to transform it.
• 1:47:39
  You need to be an agent of change in your own community
• 1:47:42
  that you know. And if you have these questions,
• 1:47:46
  you know, be bold, be bold, just as, just as bold as you would be
• 1:47:50
  to enter into the throne room of God, right.
• 1:47:53
  You should be able to be that bold, to walk into your churches
• 1:47:57
  and say, this is what Jesus says, and why are we doing it
• 1:48:02
  this way? You know, 'cause we?
• 1:48:04
  It's the silent majority that that keep us walking down this
• 1:48:10
  path, right. We have to we have to stand up.
• 1:48:13
  And I know this has kind of been a jumble.
• 1:48:15
  Lots of questions, lots of talk lots of things.
• 1:48:18
  But we're going to continue to do this.
• 1:48:20
  Guys, this isn't, this isn't the only episode that we're doing.
• 1:48:23
  We're going to continue to do this.
• 1:48:24
  So if you were thinking, oh, I got on here and I had a
• 1:48:26
  question, I didn't get to ask it or or you didn't answer my
• 1:48:30
  question, blah blah, blah. I get that we all understand
• 1:48:33
  that we can only put. So much in a certain amount of
• 1:48:35
  time, but our goal is to continue to come together for
• 1:48:39
  this mash up and talk about all of these things together.
• 1:48:42
  Because because we know you have more questions, we know that
• 1:48:45
  this wasn't enough and that right now you're salivating and
• 1:48:49
  you're foaming at the mouth. Not like a demon or anything
• 1:48:51
  crazy like that, but you want to, you want more of this
• 1:48:55
  content. You're not pulling Michael over
• 1:48:58
  there big weird sounds into the microphone, but that's.
• 1:49:01
  But this, this agenda that that we have is it's not our agenda.
• 1:49:07
  It's it's God's agenda. This is what Jesus told us to
• 1:49:10
  do, was to push his gospel message, the good news
• 1:49:15
  throughout the whole world. And we have this thing called
• 1:49:18
  the Internet. So why not utilize this
• 1:49:21
  technology right? We in the Matrix, you always
• 1:49:24
  have the fight against the machines and the humans and all
• 1:49:27
  of that, right? What?
• 1:49:29
  And so people, when it comes to technology and everything like
• 1:49:31
  that, they want to push it away and be like, oh, no, I'm
• 1:49:34
  spiritual. I'm not.
• 1:49:35
  I'm not technological. Well, I I think that those
• 1:49:38
  things mesh. And I think you're going to get
• 1:49:40
  to the point where you realize that that's a lot more connected
• 1:49:43
  than you ever could have imagined and that you're going
• 1:49:46
  to come to a point where you realize that God is
• 1:49:50
  technological and we can use this technology to do those
• 1:49:54
  things. Pete, you got something?
• 1:49:57
  Yeah. I was just gonna piggyback on
• 1:49:58
  that. You know Tim Benz told us on on
• 1:50:01
  one interview that we should ask God what he was thinking of when
• 1:50:05
  he thought of making us what was what was the purpose he had in
• 1:50:10
  mind for us. You know we're we are diverse as
• 1:50:12
  the body of Christ and and thank goodness that we're all not
• 1:50:16
  ears, eyeballs or or you know or toenails or whatever.
• 1:50:20
  Like we, we need the whole thing and and find your voice.
• 1:50:25
  Ask God to reveal what your voice is supposed to be in your
• 1:50:30
  local ecclesia, your local church gathering, and and and
• 1:50:37
  play that part as he reveals that.
• 1:50:43
  Well, it honestly is an honor to be with you, gentlemen, and to
• 1:50:48
  know. That everything that's coming
• 1:50:50
  down the pipeline is going to be organic and natural.
• 1:50:53
  It's stuff is just happening. Enoch, our buddy from the
• 1:50:56
  rundown of our reality was commenting recently and said,
• 1:51:00
  who is all surprised with as much as they have learned over
• 1:51:04
  the last three years. You know, since COVID and and I
• 1:51:07
  was like, dude, back in those days, you know, when when the
• 1:51:10
  foundations were being laid for the little seed over here, it's
• 1:51:13
  like every couple months we learn something pretty big.
• 1:51:17
  And fit it into the prayer closet.
• 1:51:18
  And now it feels like it's every single day something is coming
• 1:51:21
  down the pipeline. Every single day we're learning
• 1:51:23
  something. And it's more of a reason now
• 1:51:26
  than ever to believe and to cry out to God.
• 1:51:30
  Our salvation is closer now than the day you first believed.
• 1:51:35
  And I'm humbled to be here, Michael.
• 1:51:37
  I'm just honored to call your friend, man.
• 1:51:40
  And. Laughter is so important, you
• 1:51:42
  know, as we really wind down and and close this first epic of of
• 1:51:46
  hopefully many meetings and gatherings like this.
• 1:51:50
  Michael brings, you know, a seasoned perspective, you know,
• 1:51:55
  just to being a part of a future quake.
• 1:51:57
  You know the foundations of this stuff.
• 1:51:59
  You know, I just got in contact with Basil and Gonz recently and
• 1:52:02
  it's like we have so much to talk about Michael with, you
• 1:52:06
  know what I mean? The the, the foundation, these
• 1:52:07
  guys were. Torch bearing back then, they're
• 1:52:10
  still doing it. Now.
• 1:52:11
  They're changing the game as we know it and like we're finding
• 1:52:14
  each other and we're seeing what each one of us can bring to the
• 1:52:18
  table. For the glory of the name that
• 1:52:21
  is above every single name. That's why we're in the race.
• 1:52:26
  Yeah. I knew the hands were going.
• 1:52:29
  To go. Love you guys.
• 1:52:34
  OK, get in your audience. Get in your brain.
• 1:52:36
  It's brain. Get in here.
• 1:52:39
  Put those wings out, gentlemen. All right, you guys, this is
• 1:52:42
  super cool. We got to do kind of a hard
• 1:52:44
  close here in just a minute. So let's give Michael Basham the
• 1:52:46
  last word. And just thank you for opening
• 1:52:49
  up Fringe Radio Network for all of our crazy voices.
• 1:52:51
  Man, Thank you for just being like Michael.
• 1:52:53
  Yeah. We appreciate it.
• 1:52:54
  Thank you. It was so fun.
• 1:52:56
  All I want to say is. To all you guys that skipped
• 1:52:59
  Saturday morning cartoons this morning to be a part of this
• 1:53:04
  11/11/2023 started at 1111 O'clock too by the way was the
• 1:53:10
  time stamp Not into that but you know and that's the that's why
• 1:53:14
  the voices. I thank you guys.
• 1:53:16
  Just keep going for God and don't forget to send all of us
• 1:53:20
  lots of money. You know you can do that.
• 1:53:23
  I appreciate. No, don't be afraid new
• 1:53:26
  podcasters. Don't be afraid to send out your
• 1:53:29
  your PayPal and all that because we need to support each other
• 1:53:32
  and if you don't have money, text one of these episodes that
• 1:53:36
  you like. I challenge everyone to follow
• 1:53:39
  all of our podcasts and just send a comment.
• 1:53:42
  Let us know that you're listening.
• 1:53:44
  Welcome all of you guys in the chat.
• 1:53:46
  I want to say thank you to Troy Demcheck and Brandon Spain and
• 1:53:48
  BT Wallace. And we'll definitely have to do
• 1:53:52
  another one of these soon. Thank you so much.
• 1:53:56
  God bless you all. Thanks guys.
• 1:53:59
  Yeah. Thanks, guys.
• 1:54:00
  Thanks for showing up. We'll see you guys on the next
• 1:54:04
  one. That is all for this wonderful
• 1:54:06
  Saturday 1111. Can't wait to do it again.
• 1:54:11
  God bless and goodbye. Yes, you guys.
• 1:54:22
  Right now. Awesome.
• 1:54:25
  Bravo, gentleman. Are we still alive?
• 1:54:27
  Should we, like, make crazy noises into the mic?
• 1:54:29
  Oh yeah, we're live. Everybody, let me hear your your
• 1:54:31
  war cry as I go. OK.
• 1:54:33
  What's your war cry everybody? I I know how to make the sound
• 1:54:38
  of 1000 baby chickens drowning, but I don't know about the war
• 1:54:41
  cry. I can do a lawn mower and a
• 1:54:44
  crotch rocket. You want to hear those?
• 1:54:47
  All right, do it pull the string right?
• 1:54:52
  Oh, that's pretty good. There you go.
• 1:54:55
  Oh my. Gosh.
• 1:54:57
  Hallelujah, buddy. There you go.
• 1:55:05
  It sounded like it was a carbon copy from Grand Theft Auto from
• 1:55:08
  back in the day. Sounds like he, like, recorded
• 1:55:10
  that somehow. Super cool.
• 1:55:12
  All right guys, I am out of here.
• 1:55:13
  I'm hitting the stop record on my end.
• 1:55:16
  Yeah, OK. Me too.
• 1:55:17
  Next time, gentlemen. I'm playing Golden Eye 64 music
• 1:55:20
  right now. OK, bye.
• 1:55:21
  Bye, everybody. See you later.
• 1:55:23
  See you all right.