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Hutton & Withrow: Titans Fans Get Taken Over + NFL Surprises & SEC Chaos | Hour 2 · Hutton & Withrow Show

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Speaker 2: Believe it or don't believe it, NFL edition with some
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Speaker 2: 2-0 starts.
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Speaker 1: Man, let's go through them, okay? Believe it or don't. Tomorrow,
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Speaker 1: we're going to look at some 0-2 teams that are surprising.
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Speaker 1: But believe it means this. Are we believing that these
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Speaker 1: teams are playoff bound, okay? Because the odds of making
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Speaker 1: the playoffs at 2-0 are are extremely high compared to
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Speaker 1: 1-1 or 0-2. 0-2, by the way, about a 10%
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Speaker 1: chance of playoffs. So if we're looking at just the
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Speaker 1: current records, what we've seen, the body of work, are
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Speaker 1: we in or are we out? Chad, the Saints, they've
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Speaker 1: picked up where they left off last year. And I'm
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Speaker 1: thinking New Orleans, man, the way they play in week one,
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Speaker 1: they bounce back.
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Speaker 3: And then what we see yesterday, against the Ravens, a team.
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Speaker 1: That, I mean, we're driving back from Oxford, and I'm
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Speaker 1: thinking anytime touchdown, Derrick Henry, that's all she wrote. Here's
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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson. Bateman's going to have a big day because
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Speaker 1: he's going to be playing the number one. I wasn't
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Speaker 1: even looking at New Orleans. They didn't upgrade their defense
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Speaker 1: all that well. You know, year two and a quarterback
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Speaker 1: that Shuck, what does Shuck do whenever we mention his
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Speaker 1: quarterback prowess across the NFL?
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Speaker 2: Also, how is that pronounced, Shuck? I'll always have an
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Speaker 2: issue with that name, the way it's spelled. There was
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Speaker 2: a guy like David Chow or Slow that was like that.
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Speaker 2: That's either Show or Shuff. But to come up with
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Speaker 2: Shuck with that spelling, and I know there's a reason
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Speaker 2: behind it, and I'm not doubting that that's how it's pronounced,
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Speaker 2: and I will pronounce it that way. But Hutton, phonetically,
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Speaker 2: when I look at that word, that name, and I
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Speaker 2: do not want to say Tyler Shuck every time I
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Speaker 2: see it. Anyway, small rant. I'm not believing. We may
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Speaker 2: believe in the Saints. I'm not believing the pronunciation of
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Speaker 2: that name completely.
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Speaker 1: I don't believe it. I think the Panthers are the
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Speaker 1: team to watch in the division. I keep going back
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Speaker 1: to overall roster. I just don't think the Saints hold
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Speaker 1: up throughout the season. Do you believe it or don't
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Speaker 1: believe it?
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Speaker 2: I believe that I am shocked by the Saints' start.
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Speaker 3: I believe that.
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Speaker 2: They have surprised me to a level, especially with that
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Speaker 2: win over Baltimore that I believe more than I did
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Speaker 2: coming into it. The Panthers, we forget, they're the defending
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Speaker 2: NFC South champion.
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Speaker 3: I know.
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Speaker 2: All the talk about Baker Mayfield, the Bucs, and how
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Speaker 2: they blew it, and they did a year ago.
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Speaker 3: They got off to a great start.
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Speaker 2: They're one of the best teams in the NFL. And
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Speaker 2: they completely fell apart late in the year to lose
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Speaker 2: that division lead and not win it.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm buying.
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Speaker 2: I think I'm buying more of the Panthers than I
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Speaker 2: have a hard time with that entire division, but I'm
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Speaker 2: very surprised by Tyler Shuck, who I was not expecting
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Speaker 2: to be a good NFL quarterback, and he is. I mean,
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Speaker 2: full marks to him. That team is way better than
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Speaker 2: I expected. Next up, believe, believe the Minnesota Vikings.
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Speaker 1: Why? Because here's Minnesota with some strong wins, divisional victories, and–
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Speaker 1: pulling off consecutive tough divisional wins and highlighted by this
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Speaker 1: defensive performance in what was a low-scoring game in some
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Speaker 1: bad conditions against the Chicago Bears. The Bears put up
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Speaker 1: 50 points in Week 2, 9-3 the final. 2-0 is 2-0,
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Speaker 1: and even more so when it comes to divisional wins.
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Speaker 1: The Minnesota Vikings, I believe it.
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Speaker 2: By the way, the Saints are 1-1. We should correct that.
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Speaker 2: They lost in overtime.
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Speaker 3: Overtime, yeah. In week one.
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Speaker 2: So they're actually 1-1. So we'll change that graphic and
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Speaker 2: get it back up. Completely shocked by the Vikings. That division,
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Speaker 2: which is very talented, very strong. I was not expecting
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Speaker 2: the team with Kyler Murray as the starter to be
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Speaker 2: at 2-0 right now. The Packers gagged away that first
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Speaker 2: game of the year against them. But the Vikings looked
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Speaker 2: really good.
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Speaker 3: In week two.
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Speaker 2: So I'm not believing it within that division, but I mean,
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Speaker 2: an awesome start for them.
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Speaker 1: What was the stat we heard on Brian Flores' defenses
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Speaker 1: and when they bring pressure? It was like 60% of
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Speaker 1: the time.
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Speaker 3: It was more than that, I think.
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Speaker 1: But they are aggressive with how they go about week
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Speaker 1: to week. And it's just difficult to prepare for, especially
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Speaker 1: if you don't have a top 10-esque quarterback. that's able
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Speaker 1: to read the defense and make the right progressions. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: Minnesota's for real. And then here's Las Vegas.
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Speaker 3: What? What are we watching now? I don't believe this.
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Speaker 1: You know, a 3-14 team, they win over the Chargers.
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Speaker 1: They send the Chargers to 0-2. 26-14 the victory. Kirk Cousins,
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Speaker 1: strong play. Max Crosby. They're supporting Max Crosby defensively. They
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Speaker 1: believe in what they're doing, but I don't believe in
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Speaker 1: that team holding up in the AFC and, quite frankly,
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Speaker 1: in that division.
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Speaker 3: But they beat the Chargers. They did what they needed to.
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Speaker 2: I mean, they're running trick plays. They got flea flickers
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Speaker 2: going on. They got reverses. Kirk Cousins is hitting wide-open
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Speaker 2: dudes after getting the pass thrown to him from the
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Speaker 2: running back on one play, the throwback. I mean, it's
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Speaker 2: been impressive to watch. Cousins looks good. And I know
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Speaker 2: that he's started seasons like this before, but I think
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Speaker 2: he's still got the ability until the wear and tear
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Speaker 2: of the season starts to take its toll on his
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Speaker 2: aging body at this point. He's still good early in
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Speaker 2: the year before everything takes its toll. And I think
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Speaker 2: he's been good for the Raiders, which doesn't surprise me
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Speaker 2: and doesn't look like the worst decision ever to start
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Speaker 2: the guy when you start the season and let Fernando Mendoza–
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Speaker 2: get ready as the year goes on into next year.
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Speaker 3: But what a start for the Raiders.
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Speaker 1: Have you seen Mendoza wearing the headset and he's being
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Speaker 1: quizzed by the coaches on the sideline for every single play?
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Speaker 1: He's going to be ready whenever he comes in, but
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Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins giving the pregame speeches on the sideline yesterday.
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Speaker 1: I don't know if it was a fan or a
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Speaker 1: player that's yelling at him because he's very close to
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Speaker 1: the bench.
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Speaker 3: I was like, Kirk, they want to hear you. They
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Speaker 3: want to hear you, Kirk.
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Speaker 1: He takes his helmet off and he gives this good golly,
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Speaker 1: gosh almighty type of speech where he rallies the trip.
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Speaker 1: I mean, he is a, you like that? He's back
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Speaker 1: to that version of himself.
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Speaker 2: It's also, there's not a more perfect mentor for Fernando Mendoza.
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Speaker 2: I mean, these guys are two peas in a pod.
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Speaker 2: They're both a little bit oddball. They're a little bit
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Speaker 2: goody two shoes. It's perfect to have Kirk Cousins with Mendoza.
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Speaker 2: I can see Mendoza years from now having a great
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Speaker 2: NFL career and Kirk Cousins on the sideline or in
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Speaker 2: a suite coming back to watch him play and the
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Speaker 2: cameras panning up and showing like a proud papa.
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Speaker 3: Kirk Cousins up there watching.
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Speaker 2: The guy that he was with for a year, maybe two,
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Speaker 2: you know, at most with the Raiders to start their career.
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Speaker 2: But I think just the perfect person to guide Mendoza.
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Speaker 2: Mendoza as he gets ready to be an NFL starter.
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Speaker 2: A lot of feel-good vibes. We talk a lot about
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Speaker 2: vibes on the show. Feel-good vibes coming out of Vegas
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Speaker 2: with Kirk Cousins and with that team at 2-0. We're
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Speaker 2: going to get to 0-2 tomorrow, but opposite side of
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Speaker 2: that spectrum, whatever's happening with the Chargers is the opposite.
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Speaker 3: They'll be mentioned, man.
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Speaker 1: By the way, Harbaugh, 0-2 for the first time in
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Speaker 1: his career as a coach. That includes college, like anywhere
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Speaker 1: is a different spot for them. Meanwhile, 2-0, we have
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Speaker 1: the Bills, Bengals. They're leading their divisions right now. They're
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Speaker 1: the division leaders just because they're still unbeaten. Bills, man,
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Speaker 1: this is just their season to steamroll if they want
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Speaker 1: to with the way Josh Allen's playing. But watch out
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Speaker 1: for Cincinnati. That's a big win for them on the road.
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Speaker 1: in Houston, and Houston falls to 0-2 as well. And
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Speaker 1: then Kansas City last night. Kansas City beating the... Did
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Speaker 1: you see the finish, Chad? Down by contact? I thought
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Speaker 1: he was still bobbling the football without possession whenever he
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Speaker 1: was touched. I thought there was going to be game
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Speaker 1: over and that was a fumble.
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Speaker 3: I'm going to be honest.
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Speaker 2: After a long weekend of travel, I was long asleep
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Speaker 2: when that game ended last night. I saw the Chiefs
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Speaker 2: take the lead as I'm watching, and then I was
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Speaker 2: out at that.
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Speaker 1: The win as time expires in overtime, but going into overtime, Treadwell,
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Speaker 1: I thought it was a fumble. I guess they're saying
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Speaker 1: a finger just barely grazed.
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Speaker 2: Oh, they've shown every angle of it on SportsCenter this morning.
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Speaker 2: They're showing highlights right now. Again, I thought it was
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Speaker 2: game over.
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Speaker 1: You know, it's that weird feeling where I'm thinking, and
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Speaker 1: by the way, in the middle of going into overtime,
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Speaker 1: I'm taking the Chiefs. I'm taking the plus money on
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Speaker 1: hard rock bet for that. That's why I'm thinking, game over,
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Speaker 1: game over. It's like the Vanderbilt game, Chad. They kick
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Speaker 1: the extra point, and the spread is three and a half,
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Speaker 1: and it made it four.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: So Vanderbilt ends up covering based on the way that
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Speaker 1: game ended, plus the extra point going through the uprights.
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Speaker 2: At one point, JT on a group text, who that
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Speaker 2: was his, I think that was his blood bank guarantee
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Speaker 2: in our parlay, was Vandy, said only an idiot would
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Speaker 2: bet Vanderbilt when they're down 17-0. And then I had
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Speaker 2: to remind JT this morning. I said, hey, by the way,
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Speaker 2: Vandy covered with that extra point. JT said, why do
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Speaker 2: you take the extra point? I'm like, I think because
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Speaker 2: of Vegas. I think you have to in regulation. The
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Speaker 2: only time you don't attempt the extra point is overtime in, like,
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Speaker 2: the untimed down or walk-off sudden death situation where you
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Speaker 2: don't come out there. You know, you win by six
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Speaker 2: and not seven because you scored to win the game.
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Speaker 2: But in regulation, you kick the extra point. You know,
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Speaker 2: no matter what, if you score at the end, you
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Speaker 2: go ahead and kick it.
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Speaker 1: Hey– You brought up JT and his pick for Vandy.
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Speaker 1: You also hit yours going for the bundle. Mine was
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Speaker 1: any time touchdown for Saquon Barkley. Israel the first play.
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Speaker 3: Of the game. Oh, my gosh.
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Speaker 2: Stinger, and he comes back out looking like Andy Katzenmoyer
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Speaker 2: from Ohio State back in the day with a huge
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Speaker 2: cowboy collar. And I'm thinking, this dude wearing those pads,
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Speaker 2: probably not going to get a lot of touches the
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Speaker 2: rest of the day to go in with a stinger.
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Speaker 2: That was a rough one to finish the week. And
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Speaker 2: we felt so good about it. 2-0 on Saturday. We're
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Speaker 2: in the truck, headed back from Oxford. We're like, oh,
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Speaker 2: my gosh. Saquon Barkley gets a tight. We're alerting Brooks,
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Speaker 2: our graphics guy. Hey, man, get a kick-ass graphic ready
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Speaker 2: for us for when we hit this parlay. And first
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Speaker 2: play of the game, the dude goes down. We are
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Speaker 2: whistling the Battle Hymn of the Republic on the drive back.
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Speaker 3: Because we think we're going to win.
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Speaker 2: We were certain. We were certain we were going to
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Speaker 2: win that hard rock parlay. And nope, did not happen.
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Speaker 3: Did not come to fruition. I'll tell you what did
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Speaker 3: come to fruition.
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Speaker 2: Georgia could have named their final score against Arkansas, and
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Speaker 2: I had a minus 25.5. I think they won by 28,
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Speaker 2: but that was because of a late garbage time touchdown
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Speaker 2: to even make it that close from Arkansas. We're going
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Speaker 2: to get into bad vibes in college football, I think,
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Speaker 2: on Wednesday. Holy cow, what is going on with Arkansas.
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Speaker 2: I'm watching videos of fans fighting each other in the
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Speaker 2: parking lot postgame. They successfully initiated a boycott of the game.
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Speaker 2: And I'm thinking, what has Ryan Silverfield done to you
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Speaker 2: road and lost to a much better Utah team. But
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Speaker 2: and I know that's a bad football team. Oregon is
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Speaker 2: this year, and they're likely going to finish last in
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Speaker 2: the SEC as they were predicted.
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Speaker 3: But man, oh man, Arkansas falling apart already.
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Speaker 1: and then let's compare that to what we're seeing in Nashville.
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Speaker 1: Hey, my reasoning on the whole Arkansas deal, the boycott,
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Speaker 1: I don't know if it's worthy of a boycott, but
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Speaker 1: I understand if you're in the Calipari world, if you're
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Speaker 1: in the business of John Calipari, you expect a certain,
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Speaker 1: there's a certain level.
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Speaker 2: A certain level of service one would expect, right? Like people,
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Speaker 2: they just anticipate the needs of rich people. You know,
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Speaker 2: wherever they go, they're going to be there to service
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Speaker 2: them and they anticipate their needs. You expect the white
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Speaker 2: glove service with John Calipari is what you're saying.
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Speaker 1: You don't hire a coach and then have the cheapest
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Speaker 1: roster in the SEC.
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Speaker 3: They do.
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Speaker 1: And also, what happened to Arkansas fans? They watched Indiana
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Speaker 1: and Vanderbilt have success.
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Speaker 3: You know?
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Speaker 1: And then this is the follow-up in Arkansas. They're watching
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Speaker 1: Stanford try to invest in NIL. Yeah. And Arkansas is
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Speaker 1: in the thick of it in the SEC. They don't
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Speaker 1: want to be in the cellar.
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Speaker 3: And, okay.
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Speaker 1: I mean, I get it. But also, Chad, I could
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Speaker 1: ask you. You know exactly what it's like as a
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Speaker 1: Tennessee fan. you don't want to be the seller, then
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Speaker 1: they're always going to come to you and say, hey, 4%
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Speaker 1: ticket increase, 5% ticket increase.
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Speaker 3: That's just how it is.
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Speaker 1: But I guess they're seeing that anyway because of John Calipari.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just don't know how successfully boycotting your first
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Speaker 2: home SEC game this early in the season is going
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Speaker 2: to help drive whatever they want.
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Speaker 3: Maybe it does.
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Speaker 2: Maybe it gets the attention of Hunter Urochek or whoever else.
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Speaker 2: I mean, Ryan Silverfield wants to spend money. I can
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Speaker 2: tell you that. We talked to him down at SEC
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Speaker 2: Media Days. He's all about it. He's out there fundraising.
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Speaker 2: He's trying to get Tyson Foods and the Walton family
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Speaker 2: and everyone else to come in and help spend money.
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Speaker 2: We're going to get someone on from Arkansas. I know
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Speaker 2: enough to know what I don't know, and most of
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Speaker 2: the things in college sports, it's easy to follow the
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Speaker 2: anger or the excitement of a fan base. I'm having
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Speaker 2: a hard time connecting the dots with the Arkansas anger.
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Speaker 2: If it's over Ryan Silverfield– Once they didn't get Alex Golish,
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Speaker 2: which it looks like they were going to have him,
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Speaker 2: and then he goes to Auburn.
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Speaker 3: Okay, great.
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Speaker 2: Someone chose Auburn over you. Not the end of the world, right?
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Speaker 2: And the other one was Rhett Lashley.
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Speaker 3: Remember this?
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Speaker 1: Because of Rhett Lashley's connection to Jerry Jones.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that was one.
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Speaker 2: I'm sure that was the first one they would love
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Speaker 2: to get. But, I mean, he's got a good job
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Speaker 2: at SMU. And he's got a very winnable schedule every
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Speaker 2: year in the ACC.
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Speaker 3: But, again, we're.
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Speaker 2: Talking about the Tulane coach, the South Florida coach, or
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Speaker 2: the Memphis coach. Hiring the Memphis coach that had a
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Speaker 2: ton of success at Memphis with that proximity to Arkansas,
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Speaker 2: a place that Arkansas is going to recruit is West
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Speaker 2: Tennessee and Memphis also. I just didn't think it was
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Speaker 2: that outlandish that that's the route they would have gone
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Speaker 2: with hiring Ryan Silverfield. Again, we'll get someone on from
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Speaker 2: Arkansas and get to the bottom of it later in
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Speaker 2: the week.
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Speaker 1: I would say you don't want to be the school
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Speaker 1: that's used as Ray's season. all the time, you know,
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Speaker 1: and that's, that's how it was done for the most part. I, I, I, I,
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Speaker 1: that's my vibe from it just based on where they
18:05
Speaker 1: are and where they have been as a program in
18:07
Speaker 1: the past, long past for those that are the younger audience,
18:11
Speaker 1: but they, they know that they can be Indiana because they,
18:15
Speaker 1: they haven't been Indiana in their history. You know, they
18:18
Speaker 1: haven't been the loosiest program, but now they're, they're the,
18:20
Speaker 1: at the bottom when it comes to spending money and, uh,
18:23
Speaker 1: the big donors clearly aren't doing that. Hey, um, What's
18:27
Speaker 1: going on with the attendance in just the mid-state? What
18:29
Speaker 1: we used to be, Chad.
18:31
Speaker 3: Yeah. What we used to be.
18:33
Speaker 2: In perfect timing, I just got a text from my brother-in-law, PJ,
18:36
Speaker 2: who said, I'm watching you guys, and I'm sipping on
18:38
Speaker 2: a Crockett coffee, very smooth.
18:40
Speaker 3: Nice. I know this.
18:41
Speaker 2: Because of the ads here, he heard it. He's a
18:44
Speaker 2: big coffee guy. He went out and set up a subscription,
18:46
Speaker 2: and he's loving a Crockett coffee. It's also a perfect
18:50
Speaker 2: segue because my sister, Michelle, who is an avid Tennessee
18:55
Speaker 2: Titans fan, season ticket holder, spends a lot of money
18:58
Speaker 2: with that organization, goes to every game. My brother-in-law, big
19:01
Speaker 2: Bills fan. He's going to stay home and watch the
19:03
Speaker 2: Bills play. My sister, his wife, goes to every Titans
19:07
Speaker 2: home game and goes with friends to the game. She
19:10
Speaker 2: was livid yesterday with attendance at Nissan Stadium. I mean,
19:15
Speaker 2: livid with the scene. She was livid about Amy Adams-Strunk
19:19
Speaker 2: somehow allowing Eagles fans to take over the stadium. The
19:23
Speaker 2: lack of wins in football also.
19:25
Speaker 3: Contributing to that. for the Tennessee Titans.
19:27
Speaker 2: She had the cops called on her by Philadelphia Eagles
19:29
Speaker 2: fans at the stadium. Apparently, she got to the bottom
19:32
Speaker 2: of it, and it was an Eagles fan living in
19:34
Speaker 2: the mid-state, which a lot of the fans there didn't
19:37
Speaker 2: travel in, by the way. There are a lot of
19:39
Speaker 2: transplants from the Northeast that live here in Nashville or
19:43
Speaker 2: around the area that just went to the game because
19:45
Speaker 2: the Eagles came to their town they live.
19:48
Speaker 3: In right now. By the way, my sister was not arrested.
19:50
Speaker 3: It was fine.
19:51
Speaker 2: The Eagles fans were being soft around her when they
19:54
Speaker 2: called the cops on her. She was the tight version
19:56
Speaker 2: of Catfish Jake. They patted her on the back like,
19:58
Speaker 2: good job, giving the Eagles fans crap here in the stadium. Now,
20:03
Speaker 2: there does have to be such an odd feeling if
20:06
Speaker 2: you were a Titan, like my sister, and we've said
20:08
Speaker 2: this a lot, the Titans don't care about my sister.
20:11
Speaker 2: Like sadly, and I had to tell this to her,
20:13
Speaker 2: like that marketing department and that team, they're trying to
20:16
Speaker 2: capture the young audience. They're trying to capture the new
20:19
Speaker 2: Titans fan. They're trying to capture the people who moved
20:21
Speaker 2: in from Philly more so than the person that's from
20:23
Speaker 2: middle Tennessee, you know, born and bred in their fifties.
20:27
Speaker 2: That's here that have always supported the Titans that have
20:29
Speaker 2: gone to games since they came to town. They don't
20:32
Speaker 2: care as much about that segment. of the fan base,
20:35
Speaker 2: and it shows in a lot of their marketing efforts,
20:38
Speaker 2: I think. But hadn't to go from what we saw
20:41
Speaker 2: when we started out covering the Titans, where it was
20:42
Speaker 2: a legitimate home field advantage. I mean, for years, that
20:47
Speaker 2: stadium was sold out, but it was loud. It was
20:49
Speaker 2: a difficult place to go play, and it was a
20:52
Speaker 2: bit of an odd snake pit situation.
20:54
Speaker 3: Of a situation. Now it's a snake pit for the Titans.
20:58
Speaker 2: The Titans are walking into their home field and you
21:01
Speaker 2: got Jeffrey Simmons grabbing his crotch to Eagles fans because
21:04
Speaker 2: they've been taunting him all day because it was a
21:07
Speaker 2: full takeover and he's yelling obscenities at Eagles fans after
21:11
Speaker 2: they take the lead right before the Eagles go down
21:14
Speaker 2: and win the game.
21:15
Speaker 3: Why is this happening?
21:16
Speaker 2: Because you're playing a road game at home if you're
21:19
Speaker 2: the Titans. Now, I don't blame Titans fans for not
21:22
Speaker 2: going to these games. I really don't. I'm not going
21:24
Speaker 2: to sit here and say that I would go spend
21:26
Speaker 2: my Sunday in 100-degree heat watching that team play and
21:30
Speaker 2: spend a bunch of my money to go do it.
21:33
Speaker 2: So I understand why it's happening, Hutton. It's just more
21:36
Speaker 2: of an observation of, man, how did we get here?
21:40
Speaker 2: You know, how did we get here as a sports
21:41
Speaker 2: city that I just think Nashville is one of the
21:45
Speaker 2: weaker fan bases around. And they've been beaten into submission
21:50
Speaker 2: with the Titans recently. I understand that. I'm not being
21:52
Speaker 2: overly critical of Titans fans here. But it's just a
21:55
Speaker 2: common problem. You look at Vanderbilt on Saturday. We're sitting
21:59
Speaker 2: about to go to the game in Oxford, and I
22:02
Speaker 2: go up and take a picture of our multi-view because
22:04
Speaker 2: I'm thinking, what in the world is going on? Look
22:06
Speaker 2: at that side of the stadium. It's all red and
22:09
Speaker 2: white for NC State. None of the students are there
22:13
Speaker 2: for Vanderbilt. The crowd is spotty. It's not a big
22:16
Speaker 2: stadium to begin with. This was Jared Curtis' debut. You're
22:20
Speaker 2: a five-star freshman that you were chanting for when the
22:23
Speaker 2: other guy started to start the season, Blaise Berlowitz.
22:26
Speaker 3: Vandy fans were chanting for him to enter the game.
22:28
Speaker 3: You got what you wanted.
22:30
Speaker 2: You're starting a game against a power team in NC State,
22:34
Speaker 2: and that's the attendance for the game? I was blown
22:36
Speaker 2: away both Saturday and Sunday. Now, the Titans fans.
22:39
Speaker 3: Have an excuse. I don't see an excuse for Vandy fans,
22:42
Speaker 3: quite frankly. That's got to be better.
22:45
Speaker 2: Your team is 14-3 over the last 17. This is
22:48
Speaker 2: not same old Vandy. You're winning games. Hell, you won
22:50
Speaker 2: a game by a miracle on Saturday for those that
22:53
Speaker 2: actually decided to show up to it. I just feel
22:57
Speaker 2: like that's got to be better. And Clark Lee and
22:59
Speaker 2: that team, they've built it up enough where they deserve
23:02
Speaker 2: better than an NC State takeover.
23:04
Speaker 3: It was loud when NC State scored.
23:06
Speaker 2: I'm watching that first half, and when they did something big,
23:09
Speaker 2: it sounded almost like a home game for NC State.
23:12
Speaker 2: Way too many NC State fans in that stadium.
23:15
Speaker 1: Here's the thing about Nashville instead of Tennessee. It is
23:19
Speaker 1: the melting pot of a lot of different fans and
23:22
Speaker 1: fan bases, right?
23:23
Speaker 3: Sure. And that's the case with the SEC and in
23:26
Speaker 3: the NFL. You know, you and I growing up, you know,
23:29
Speaker 3: back in our day.
23:30
Speaker 1: The Titans moved here and they opened that stadium at
23:35
Speaker 1: Nissan Stadium in 1999. Prior to that, they're in Memphis.
23:39
Speaker 1: Prior to that, then they're in Vandy. Coming from Houston.
23:43
Speaker 1: But here locally, we just got the game of the
23:45
Speaker 1: week on the networks. So Dallas was shown a lot.
23:49
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Steelers, shown a lot. Those are the two teams
23:52
Speaker 1: that would always meet the Super Bowl or go to
23:54
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. We were watching those teams primarily play
23:58
Speaker 1: week in, week out. In this area, you're a Braves
24:00
Speaker 1: fan or a Cubs fan?
24:02
Speaker 3: Most of them.
24:03
Speaker 1: Because you watch WGN on Prime Star Satellite Television or
24:07
Speaker 1: watch TBS all the time. I would watch the Super
24:09
Speaker 1: Station and watch the Braves. Proximity-wise, you could drive to St.
24:14
Speaker 1: Louis or Cincinnati, but that's it. A lot of Braves fans. I... Also,
24:21
Speaker 1: specifically with the Titans, the Titans made a huge effort
24:25
Speaker 1: when they moved here.
24:27
Speaker 3: And over the last, the first 15 seasons.
24:29
Speaker 1: I'd say, of the 27, they made a huge effort
24:32
Speaker 1: to hit areas across the Mid-South, year in and year out,
24:37
Speaker 1: pockets of the Middle Tennessee and beyond that where fans
24:41
Speaker 1: wanted to drive in from Knoxville, where fans wanted to
24:44
Speaker 1: drive in from McMinnville or from Jackson, Union.
24:49
Speaker 3: City, Bowling Green.
24:51
Speaker 1: Now it's just like, oh, if you're visiting the city,
24:54
Speaker 1: pay our hotel tax and come over and walk across
24:56
Speaker 1: the pedestrian bridge. That's just kind of the nonchalant look
25:00
Speaker 1: at it that is different. It's Nashville more than it
25:03
Speaker 1: is the region, right? Those were the fans, the diehards
25:10
Speaker 1: that were driving in, parking, spending all day.
25:11
Speaker 3: I mean, who wants to watch?
25:13
Speaker 1: Whenever the Titans were going over there, was it five
25:16
Speaker 1: or six straight seasons with a winning record? John Robinson,
25:19
Speaker 1: at the time, even Malarkey. They got back on the
25:22
Speaker 1: streak where they were going 9-7, I think, three straight years.
25:25
Speaker 3: They went 11-5, 12-5.
25:25
Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden, we started to see
25:27
Speaker 1: the drop-off. And since then, since 2022, 7-10, 6-11, 3-14, 3-14,
25:30
Speaker 1: and they're in progress now. I don't want to go
25:32
Speaker 1: sit in the upper deck with $ 28 tickets where $ 5
25:34
Speaker 1: goes to ALS. I'd sit at home and I'll donate
25:50
Speaker 1: money online, especially with the week one performance.
25:54
Speaker 3: That was trash. Oh, no doubt.
25:56
Speaker 1: Again, there's just a different vibe with it that used
25:59
Speaker 1: to be. And with Vanderbilt, I mean, it's tough to
26:02
Speaker 1: get people to go to Memorial Gym, which is also just,
26:06
Speaker 1: I shake.
26:06
Speaker 3: My head out.
26:07
Speaker 2: Hudnut, and I don't want this to be critical of
26:09
Speaker 2: Titans fans. Again, I am a Titans fan. I'm not
26:12
Speaker 2: going to those games.
26:13
Speaker 3: Right, right, right.
26:14
Speaker 2: Here are the conditions that would get me to go
26:15
Speaker 2: to a Titans game right now. Absolutely perfect fall weather.
26:19
Speaker 2: A free tailgate with friends that I'm allowed to attend.
26:23
Speaker 2: That's going to be the perfect setup for a tailgate.
26:25
Speaker 2: And an interesting opponent. I'd want to go see a
26:28
Speaker 2: great NFL team play there. I'd like to go see
26:30
Speaker 2: the Eagles play, possibly. But I'm not going to go
26:32
Speaker 2: watch that game in 100-degree heat. So I'm not critical
26:35
Speaker 2: of the Titans fans that are either selling their tickets
26:37
Speaker 2: or just not buying tickets at all. I didn't understand
26:41
Speaker 2: the Arkansas thing as much. I understand it with the Titans.
26:45
Speaker 2: I just think on the flip side.
26:47
Speaker 3: For Vandy....
26:49
Speaker 2: Your stadium holds 35,000 people, right? It went from 40
26:55
Speaker 2: to 35. I'm not asking for a 100,000-seat sellout like
26:59
Speaker 2: we're going to see at Neyland Stadium on Saturday, right?
27:02
Speaker 2: There was a 100,000-seat sellout for Kennesaw State. I understand
27:06
Speaker 2: the difference in the fan bases and the markets, right?
27:09
Speaker 2: Knoxville is not as big of a transplant market. Everybody
27:12
Speaker 2: there is surrounding that team, unlike Nashville. But we're talking
27:16
Speaker 2: about a 35,000-seat stadium in a market of 2.15 million
27:22
Speaker 2: people now. That's the greater Nashville area of surrounding counties
27:27
Speaker 2: and Davidson County. We can't get 35,000 people in black
27:31
Speaker 2: and gold, even new fans, that are riding the wave
27:34
Speaker 2: of this 14-3 run for the team to go to
27:37
Speaker 2: a game. I mean, NC State, it's not like they're
27:40
Speaker 2: having a great year for that amount.
27:42
Speaker 3: Of NC State fans to show up. They get blown out.
27:46
Speaker 2: In week zero against Virginia, and you have that many
27:49
Speaker 2: NC State fans buying tickets.
27:51
Speaker 3: To go to the game? I get that.
27:53
Speaker 2: Everything everybody's going to say on the YouTube channel and
27:54
Speaker 2: everywhere else, yes, Nashville's a destination city. Yes, it's hot. Yes,
27:59
Speaker 2: the Titans have sucked. Yes, all these things are true. Again,
28:03
Speaker 2: I understand it with the Eagles fans taking over the stadium.
28:07
Speaker 3: It's not great.
28:08
Speaker 2: If you're the Titans, you can't sit back and just
28:10
Speaker 2: act like, oh, everything's fine. That's just what happens here.
28:13
Speaker 2: I don't understand it with Vandy.
28:14
Speaker 3: I really don't.
28:15
Speaker 2: It needs to be better than what we saw on Saturday.
28:18
Speaker 3: It is remarkable, though. Even during the winning seasons, we
28:23
Speaker 3: would see takeovers of fan bases in that stadium.
28:25
Speaker 1: Steelers, Vikings. The Vikings really surprised me. And I don't
28:30
Speaker 1: know how to measure this. Chiefs have taken it over before.
28:33
Speaker 3: Absolutely. Patriots have come close. I agree. Yes, that's a
28:37
Speaker 3: good one. Raiders. Raiders also.
28:40
Speaker 1: But there are the fan bases and then there are
28:44
Speaker 1: just the small market teams. The Chiefs kingdom, as they
28:49
Speaker 1: call it, is legit. That's the closest thing in the
28:52
Speaker 1: NFL to a college football atmosphere. Having been there several times,
28:55
Speaker 1: you've been there too.
28:56
Speaker 3: You would agree?
28:57
Speaker 1: That it feels it's the closest thing to a game
29:01
Speaker 1: day in college football, like where no matter what, that's my,
29:05
Speaker 1: that's my alma mater.
29:06
Speaker 3: Buffalo. Buffalo is another good one. That's taken off.
29:09
Speaker 2: Yes.
29:09
Speaker 3: Buffalo to me, Buffalo and Kansas city. Perfect examples. Probably
29:13
Speaker 3: green Bay too.
29:14
Speaker 2: I've never been there and tailgated for a game, but
29:15
Speaker 2: the most collegiate of atmospheres. And a lot of that's
29:18
Speaker 2: because the setup around the stadium is not metropolitan, right?
29:22
Speaker 2: You're like in a field tailgating somewhere for those places.
29:24
Speaker 1: And having bust in there with the team, That's an
29:27
Speaker 1: early morning, and they are out tailgating, and they're out
29:31
Speaker 1: in mass.
29:32
Speaker 3: It's just what you do.
29:33
Speaker 1: It's the march to the season.
29:40
Speaker 3: Said.
29:41
Speaker 1: You just go. You go because it's church. That's how
29:44
Speaker 1: I would describe it. This used to be that area.
29:47
Speaker 1: The Titans, you did do that, but everyone believed in
29:52
Speaker 1: what they were doing. The new stadium, they're going to
29:55
Speaker 1: have any problems selling at this stadium, but we're going
29:57
Speaker 1: to see more and more of the different colors, not
30:00
Speaker 1: just the Titans Columbia blue, so to speak. How about
30:05
Speaker 1: Jeffrey Simmons, though? I understand what he was saying about
30:09
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts. We're going to make him a quarterback. You
30:14
Speaker 1: want him to stay in the pocket is what that means.
30:16
Speaker 1: But they were spinning that into, they took exception to
30:22
Speaker 1: it in the Philly locker room. I love what Hurts
30:24
Speaker 1: said to him. He was like, you started this, I
30:26
Speaker 1: had to finish it. It was terrific.
30:29
Speaker 2: As he was doing the post-game interview on the field,
30:32
Speaker 2: you started this, I had to finish it, and the smile.
30:35
Speaker 2: And Jeffrey Simmons handed it like a man, too. He
30:37
Speaker 2: went to him, shook his hand, and nodded, said something
30:40
Speaker 2: else back to him. He played well. Jeffrey Simmons also, look,
30:45
Speaker 2: never going to be a good look. You've got to
30:47
Speaker 2: wait until the clock hits zero. I'm not one that's
30:51
Speaker 2: going to clutch Pearls. over grabbing his crotch or yelling
30:55
Speaker 2: at a fan base, who I'm sure yelled far worse
30:57
Speaker 2: to him the entire game. It wasn't like he was
31:00
Speaker 2: doing it into a camera or a microphone. The good
31:04
Speaker 2: lesson here would be someone's always filming whatever you're doing
31:08
Speaker 2: in an NFL game on the sidelines, so it's going
31:10
Speaker 2: to be caught by someone and a fan happen to
31:12
Speaker 2: capture you gesturing yourself saying, S my D, as he's.
31:17
Speaker 3: Yelling at the crowd, right? He played LSU's head. He
31:19
Speaker 3: was playing head. Yeah, yeah. Not a good look. Like, look,
31:24
Speaker 3: you wait. Like, you know. You know better.
31:26
Speaker 2: You've still got to go out and play defense. You're
31:29
Speaker 2: about to be back on the field. You just took
31:31
Speaker 2: a three-point lead. There's plenty of time left. It's like
31:34
Speaker 2: there's seven seconds left in the game. I mean, this
31:37
Speaker 2: celebration would have been more appropriate had the Titans won.
31:42
Speaker 3: Okay?
31:42
Speaker 2: I'm not saying he should have done it. If I'm
31:44
Speaker 2: his coach, I'm not telling him to go celebrate that way.
31:47
Speaker 2: But point being, you just look really dumb when you
31:50
Speaker 2: do this before the clock hits zero.
31:53
Speaker 1: Yes, and Hurts didn't play his best at all. But
31:57
Speaker 1: that's exactly the precision. Man, Devontae Smith, what a player, dude.
32:04
Speaker 2: By the way, how does a receiver get that open
32:07
Speaker 2: from the two-yard line with that many bodies on an
32:10
Speaker 2: NFL field? I mean, that's hard to do, right? Like,
32:13
Speaker 2: you've got so much congestion there on a pass play,
32:16
Speaker 2: and there are so many bodies in that end zone.
32:18
Speaker 2: I mean, he had to leap up to catch it.
32:20
Speaker 2: There wasn't anyone within five yards of him somehow. I mean,
32:22
Speaker 2: how do you not have someone in the middle of
32:25
Speaker 2: the end zone just spying or around the area? I
32:27
Speaker 2: don't know what type of man to man. I don't
32:29
Speaker 2: know what the play call was defensively, but I can't
32:32
Speaker 2: imagine a scenario unless three guys fall down and trip
32:35
Speaker 2: over themselves that you're going to have a receiver that open.
32:38
Speaker 3: Credits due.
32:39
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Speaker 1: And then you have Texas A & M and LSU.
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Speaker 3: Let's go. Here we go, man.
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Speaker 1: This is week four, and plenty at stake for these programs.
34:22
Speaker 1: A lot to get to this week. I'm excited about it.
34:25
Speaker 2: There's so much to talk about, and also at some
34:28
Speaker 2: point this week, I just jotted it down, but Tennessee
34:31
Speaker 2: has a celebrity guest picker issue. I think, for this
34:34
Speaker 2: week that we're going to have to talk about for
34:36
Speaker 2: ESPN College Game Day and who the selection should be.
34:39
Speaker 2: I'm going to give you right now an outside-the-box one
34:43
Speaker 2: that I think is a possibility.
34:45
Speaker 3: Say it now so you get in front of this.
34:48
Speaker 2: Yes. Kevin Hart. Kevin Hart's son is on the track
34:53
Speaker 2: team at Tennessee. He was at the game Saturday night
34:58
Speaker 2: against Kennesaw State. He goes to a lot of the games.
35:01
Speaker 2: He's on the sideline or he's in a suite. I
35:03
Speaker 2: think he's sort of an adopted Tennessee fan with his
35:06
Speaker 2: son going to school at Tennessee.
35:09
Speaker 3: I could see ESPN.
35:11
Speaker 2: Pulling in Kevin Hart, especially, you know, they're going to
35:14
Speaker 2: be on the field when they pick. So the first
35:16
Speaker 2: two hours will be on the Hill. Then for the
35:18
Speaker 2: final hour of the show, because the game kicks off
35:20
Speaker 2: right when they sign off, they're going to go down
35:22
Speaker 2: on the field for that, that picks section. So it's
35:25
Speaker 2: not like you're going to have crowd reacting to the picks.
35:27
Speaker 2: You're going to have the pregame going on as they're picking. Um,
35:30
Speaker 2: I'll go ahead and get out in front of him,
35:31
Speaker 2: but I think that Kevin Hart could be a possibility
35:34
Speaker 2: to be the celebrity guest picker. Don't really know how
35:36
Speaker 2: I feel about that. I don't think of Kevin Hart
35:38
Speaker 2: as a Tennessee guy, but he's a huge star. So,
35:41
Speaker 2: you know, you could do worse in terms of star
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Speaker 2: power to have there on game day.
35:46
Speaker 1: Some star power injuries. Caleb Williams with the hammy. We'll
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Speaker 1: get to that in a moment. I want to get
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Speaker 1: his reaction. But Jaden Daniels and Tom Brady's reaction to
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Speaker 1: the arm elbow injury On Fox.
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Speaker 3: Oh, shit. Oh, no.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Sorry. Apologies.
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Speaker 2: Apologies. There was the real Brady creeping into the broadcast,
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Speaker 2: just that initial reaction. That is the reaction of a
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Speaker 2: guy who's lost a season to injury, and he knows
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Speaker 2: the Jaden Daniels history with that.
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Speaker 3: Yes.
36:27
Speaker 2: You see just such a– what looks like an inconsequential
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Speaker 2: play where he gets tripped by his own offensive lineman
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Speaker 2: and stumbling down and then tries to brace himself. And immediately,
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Speaker 2: you know, like, okay, that thing's dislocated again. The subluxation
36:41
Speaker 2: or whatever it is of the elbow.
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Speaker 3: Really unfortunate.
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Speaker 2: I was watching it live and I kept rewinding it.
36:46
Speaker 2: Listen to Brady right here. That is the immediate raw
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Speaker 2: reaction on Mike to it. He felt for Jaden Daniels.
36:54
Speaker 2: I mean, we all feel for Jaden Daniels in that one.
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Speaker 3: That was.
36:57
Speaker 2: That was crazy. All the emotion, everything surrounding that, completely justified.
37:01
Speaker 2: I was, however, a bit put off by Caleb Williams
37:05
Speaker 2: giving the Kobe Bryant salute and tearful exit because of
37:09
Speaker 2: a hamstring injury in that game. I mean, he was
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Speaker 2: acting like his career was over when he was getting
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Speaker 2: carted off the field.
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Speaker 3: That was a bit odd.
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Speaker 1: He's full of drama. But, man, he's been playing well. And,
37:23
Speaker 1: I mean, I– There's the player, and then there's the
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Speaker 1: personality with Caleb Williams. I can't get past the personality
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Speaker 1: part of it. It bugs me, quite frankly. But the
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Speaker 1: player is hard to bet against. Going back to the
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Speaker 1: Jay Daniels thing, just briefly, Chad, there's something about players
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Speaker 1: who just have a tendency now to get hurt versus
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Speaker 1: guys who don't. And I feel like we're seeing that
37:53
Speaker 1: with Jay Daniels' play on real time. Joe Burrow is
37:56
Speaker 1: another one.
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Speaker 2: That's what it feels like with him, too.
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Speaker 1: Yes, because last year with Daniels battling back, trying to
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Speaker 1: get back to the injury, now he's healthy coming into
38:04
Speaker 1: this year, and then you see this happen. There's just
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Speaker 1: a trend with it. Meanwhile, you've got guys like Patrick Mahomes.
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Speaker 1: Rarely does he miss any time. He gets banged up,
38:15
Speaker 1: but there's just different expectations of guys that are going
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Speaker 1: to go down. I'm with you on Burrow. I'm expecting
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Speaker 1: that to happen, too. he's already got the shoulder.
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Speaker 3: Issue, you know, going into the game.
38:28
Speaker 2: And you're spot on, too. Like, Josh Allen's a guy
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Speaker 2: who's very durable, too. Like, you're just not ever expecting
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Speaker 2: him to get hurt. And when Patrick Mahomes loses the
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Speaker 2: end of a season for an ACL tear, it's like
38:39
Speaker 2: it becomes a superhero origin story for him when he
38:42
Speaker 2: goes and gets it repaired.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
38:44
Speaker 2: He comes back, and he looks great. He looks better
38:47
Speaker 2: than he has in two years.
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Speaker 3: Right.
38:50
Speaker 2: The Chiefs look way better. I mean, it's a different–
38:53
Speaker 2: he was– Sorry, Cam Ward, but Patrick Mahomes was throwing
38:56
Speaker 2: seeds last night in that football game. I mean, he
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Speaker 2: is all the way back, and I think the Chiefs
39:03
Speaker 2: are all the way back. And sadly, back is the
39:06
Speaker 2: word for Joe Burrow, and it's tightness in his back.
39:09
Speaker 2: That Jaden Daniels gets hurt again, that's just– you see
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Speaker 2: it all the time. The guys that have the propensity
39:15
Speaker 2: to get hurt, and I've definitely seen that with Daniels. Unfortunately,
39:19
Speaker 2: we've seen that with Joe Burrow. I don't know about
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Speaker 2: Caleb Williams. I mean, this should be like a two-week thing, right?
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Speaker 2: A strained hamstring?
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Speaker 3: It depends. It depends on the severity of it. It
39:29
Speaker 3: could be a... a month or so. It could be.
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Speaker 2: I hope he's back soon. We want to see the
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Speaker 2: Stars play. And certainly don't want to see those guys
39:39
Speaker 2: get hurt. But the Bears go from scoring 59 points
39:41
Speaker 2: in week one to three in week two. That's a
39:45
Speaker 2: big swing from week one to week two for the
39:47
Speaker 2: Chicago Bears.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, no doubt, man.
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Speaker 1: Rams and Giants. Chad, I'm taking the Giants and the
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Speaker 1: points here, by the way. The two New York teams
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Speaker 1: playing well. I know the Jets gave it up yesterday,
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Speaker 1: and Giants, which is unusual this time of year. I'm
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Speaker 2: I think I'm going to go Cam Scadaboo a touchdown
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Speaker 2: in this game. It's going to be my play for tonight.
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Speaker 3: Anytime touchdown. The man is a touchdown-making machine. What did
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Speaker 3: he say about Aaron Donald? He's like, if he plays
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Speaker 3: and we have to meet in the hole, so be it.
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Speaker 2: It sounded like Yvonne Drago in Rocky IV when he says,
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Speaker 2: if he dies, he dies.
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Speaker 3: It's like a It's a battle of the bastards is
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Speaker 3: what this is.
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Speaker 2: With Apollo Creed actually dying in the ring during the
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Speaker 2: post-battle interview, he just says if he dies, he dies.
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Speaker 2: That sounds like something Cam Scadavo might say at some
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Speaker 2: point in his career.
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Speaker 3: I'd say this jokingly, but one man leaves concussed is
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Speaker 3: what this is. Oh, yeah.
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Speaker 2: Two men enter, one man will leave concussed. I've got
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Speaker 2: a pretty good bet. I know they don't offer odds
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Speaker 2: on that, but I've got a pretty.
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Speaker 3: Good bet on who I'd be taking who leaves concussed
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Speaker 3: in that meeting.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's Goliath and there's David. We'll find out what
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Speaker 1: happens here with this. David's not afraid. Chad, well done.
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Speaker 1: You're back to back now on your hard rock lock
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Speaker 1: of the week. Tremendous job. You had Georgia minus 24
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Speaker 1: and a half and crushed it.
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Speaker 3: They win by 28.
42:03
Speaker 2: I didn't know that I was going to have so
42:04
Speaker 2: much help from Arkansas and their fans boycotting the game.
42:07
Speaker 2: So thank you, Razorback Nation, for making the game and
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Speaker 2: the spectacle more about no one being in the tailgate
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Speaker 2: area and no one going to the game.
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Speaker 3: But I felt good about it.
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Speaker 2: Georgia is, because they haven't played anybody good yet, an
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Speaker 2: overlooked team right now. We're going to start to know
42:24
Speaker 2: more about them starting this week. They get Oklahoma. But
42:28
Speaker 2: this Georgia team is a machine. Gunnar Stockton as a
42:32
Speaker 2: veteran quarterback, he's got better weapons around him. They are
42:35
Speaker 2: explosive offensively. You still get the same Kirby smart defense
42:40
Speaker 2: with this group. They're my preseason pick to win the SEC.
42:43
Speaker 2: And I think that game says so much about Georgia
42:46
Speaker 2: and their workmanlike approach. Did you see Kirby Smart talking
42:49
Speaker 2: about one of the defensive players for Georgia was like
42:52
Speaker 2: running and doing drills on the sideline during the game
42:55
Speaker 2: when the offense.
42:56
Speaker 3: Was on the field? Practicing, yeah. And they said, what
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Speaker 3: was he doing?
42:59
Speaker 2: He said, we weren't getting enough work in. The other
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Speaker 2: team wasn't being physical enough. They weren't on the field
43:03
Speaker 2: long enough. So we have to play to a standard
43:06
Speaker 2: of getting work in while we're out there. So he's
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Speaker 2: over there working on the side on his own because
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Speaker 2: Arkansas is not giving him enough work in the game. Boy,
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Speaker 2: I can't imagine a worse insult– to a football team
43:19
Speaker 2: than hearing that from Kirby Smart.
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Speaker 3: But also, that's a pretty.
43:22
Speaker 2: Big compliment to the type of team that Kirby Smart
43:25
Speaker 2: has this year.
43:26
Speaker 1: And now with NIL, the talent is more scattered. But
43:30
Speaker 1: I believe it when Alabama and Georgia players would enter
43:33
Speaker 1: the NFL and say that the practices in college were
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Speaker 1: more competitive and more difficult skill-wise than what they were
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Speaker 1: facing in the NFL during camp.
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Speaker 3: I believe it. And also, you know, the Vols.
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Speaker 1: Joey Kent would always say, our practices were far, far
43:54
Speaker 1: more difficult to make plays in than the actual game.
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Speaker 3: Game was easy. I think about that and go, how?
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Speaker 1: But, you know, it's an insult to Arkansas, but I mean,
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Speaker 1: I guess if Georgia's playing Bama, if Georgia's playing Tennessee,
44:08
Speaker 1: if Kirby's over there giving another practice, that'll be something
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Speaker 1: to see for sure. Hey, I missed on my luck.
44:14
Speaker 1: I had the Titans under 17.5 total points for the game,
44:20
Speaker 1: and they hit 20. That last field goal is what
44:23
Speaker 1: did it, too. The last field goal, and you know
44:25
Speaker 1: what else? That interception.
44:27
Speaker 3: The offense wasn't moving the football.
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44:51
Speaker 1: over 30 and a half receiving yards uh under total
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Speaker 1: yards for Jameer Gibbs on Thursday night and then uh
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Speaker 1: over 50 total points for the game I don't I
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45:08
Speaker 2: Get more into the weeds of Cam Ward and his
45:10
Speaker 2: performance and development or lack thereof as the week goes on.
45:15
Speaker 2: I thought he was better in this game. I also
45:18
Speaker 2: think we're seeing a lack of confidence from the head
45:23
Speaker 2: coach and offensive coordinator in Cam Ward, and I understand it.
45:27
Speaker 2: With play calling on third and throwing situations, a lot
45:30
Speaker 2: of draw plays, and I understand where they're coming from
45:33
Speaker 2: on that because it's just still not good enough. Thirteen
45:35
Speaker 2: points for the offense when you take away the seven
45:37
Speaker 2: They were gifted on the 90-yard interception return.
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Speaker 3: Hey, final minute here.
45:44
Speaker 1: Early on, I took Tennessee plus five and a half
45:48
Speaker 1: against Texas.
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Speaker 3: Do you think I made a mistake there?
45:51
Speaker 2: Well, I would say no, because that line's already moved
45:54
Speaker 2: to three and a half. So early money was all
45:57
Speaker 2: on the Vols at that minus five and a half number.
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Speaker 2: It is now at hard rock bet. I just checked it.
46:02
Speaker 2: Clay Travis just posted it. It is Texas minus three
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Speaker 2: and a half, which I think surprise some people. It
46:08
Speaker 2: does not surprise me. I think Texas is better than
46:11
Speaker 2: Tennessee right now, especially with Tennessee going with a freshman quarterback.
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Speaker 3: But, Hudson, we've seen it.
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Speaker 2: I would be way more tempted. We'll get to picks
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Speaker 2: later in the week. I'd be way more tempted to
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Speaker 2: pick the Vols if this game was at night or
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Speaker 2: late afternoon like we.
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Speaker 3: Saw in that Alabama game.
46:25
Speaker 2: I think it's a huge gift to Texas if this
46:27
Speaker 2: game is at 11 a.m. I really think that's a
46:30
Speaker 2: big gift to them in this game.
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Speaker 3: I totally agree, man.
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