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Texas Source Has MESSAGE You NEED to HEAR Before Oklahoma Sooners vs Longhorns! | Red River Shootout · College Football Addiction: A Show About All Things College Football

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  Speaker 2: All right.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome back to college football addiction. Red river shootout. Is it,
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  Speaker 1: does everybody on your site still call it that? Are
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  Speaker 1: we still there or does anybody go politically correct on
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  Speaker 1: this or are we still having fun?
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  Speaker 2: Red river rivalry, I think, but don't say it. Try
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  Speaker 2: to say it like three times fast and you can't.
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  Speaker 1: That's the problem with it is, you know, um, World's,
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  Speaker 1: you know, the cocktail party, you know, got neutered too.
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  Speaker 1: So we are presented by PrizePix. More on them in
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  Speaker 1: a bit. But, all right, so... I don't think we
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  Speaker 1: talked before Ohio State. We talked before Tennessee. We haven't
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  Speaker 1: really followed up from either of those. Tennessee is the
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  Speaker 1: last time we've seen Texas. So the offense, I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: is the best way to describe. Now, I think Tennessee's
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  Speaker 1: got a really good defense on Texas football, Jerry Hansen. Sorry.
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  Speaker 1: So maybe actually do a real intro here. But the offense,
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  Speaker 1: is it fair to say that it's clunky? Is that
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  Speaker 1: the easiest way to describe it?
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  Speaker 2: Yes. Yeah. And I think Sark's used the word inconsistent, right? Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: It's a good word. Yeah, look, I think all Texas
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  Speaker 2: fans are pretty much there. I would think Sark is there.
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  Speaker 2: So I think that's a fair assessment. And, you know,
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  Speaker 2: what's going to be interesting is this will be third
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  Speaker 2: game out of five against one of the elite defensive
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  Speaker 2: coordinators in college football, Matt Patricia, Jim Knowles, and now
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  Speaker 2: Brent Venables. That's pretty much running the gamut of if
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  Speaker 2: your offense is clunky, you're really challenged. Yeah. And Brent
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  Speaker 2: Venables now has four games to watch of Texas, one
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  Speaker 2: against Patricia, one against Knowles, and put everything he's seen
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  Speaker 2: to give Texas the most issues out there on the
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  Speaker 2: field with a week off to prepare. So this is
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  Speaker 2: not a game on either side to get well on offense.
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  Speaker 2: That's the first thing I'd say. Whether it's Oklahoma or Texas,
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  Speaker 2: you're going to get Brent Venables and Will Muschamp, and
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  Speaker 2: they both have a lot of pros. This is not
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  Speaker 2: the week to get healthy on offense.
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  Speaker 1: I know we really talk a lot about like the
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  Speaker 1: actual matchups and deep dive and analytics and all those things.
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  Speaker 1: But I understand the phrase like, Oh, throw everything out
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  Speaker 1: when it's a rivalry game. And I think that's true.
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  Speaker 1: Like obviously as an FSU guy, like we play Miami
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  Speaker 1: in two weeks and I think you can, an aspect
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  Speaker 1: of that is true. And when you play Florida, that
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  Speaker 1: an aspect of that is true. And that's true. You know, Michigan,
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  Speaker 1: Ohio state all, I don't know if there's a rivalry
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  Speaker 1: that gets weirder than Texas and Oklahoma. And I like, I,
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  Speaker 1: you know, and I don't even mean this to offend,
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  Speaker 1: like both sides. It's not in my top, like two, right?
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  Speaker 1: Like I'd put Michigan, Ohio state there. I'd put Alabama, Auburn,
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  Speaker 1: probably like if you're looking like national, but nothing gets
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  Speaker 1: weirder than this one. And I don't know what, like,
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  Speaker 1: is there anything you can attribute that to? Like, why
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  Speaker 1: is that the case here?
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  Speaker 2: I look, I think there is something to be said that,
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  Speaker 2: you know, they're meeting in the middle here. Right. And,
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  Speaker 2: The Cotton Bowl, and it's not the Cotton Bowl presented
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  Speaker 2: by Jerry Jones Stadium over in the enclosed stadium. It's
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  Speaker 2: the original Cotton Bowl. The last time I went to,
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  Speaker 2: and I can't even tell you how many crickets there
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  Speaker 2: were in the stands. It was like I was avoiding
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  Speaker 2: stepping on crickets. There's something historical about the venue. The players,
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  Speaker 2: they walk down the same tunnel. Right? It's real. Like
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  Speaker 2: when you talk to players who have played in the game,
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  Speaker 2: coaches who have coached in the game, I think there's
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  Speaker 2: something that tradition of college football, and it's why I
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  Speaker 2: never want this to become a home-and-home game or move
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  Speaker 2: away from the Cotton Bowl. I think that brings a
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  Speaker 2: lot into it. I just think a lot of these
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  Speaker 2: games have lost to tradition, I think. And this one
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  Speaker 2: has not. And I do think this, too. It's always
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  Speaker 2: been a game where, especially on the Oklahoma side, I
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  Speaker 2: feel like they pull out all the trick plays and
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  Speaker 2: all the stops. And I think there's so much momentum,
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  Speaker 2: sudden momentum change in this game. But I think for
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  Speaker 2: all those reasons, I think it's– and I think a
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  Speaker 2: lot of it is just where they play it. I
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  Speaker 2: really do. I think it feels traditional. It hasn't lost
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  Speaker 2: all that in college sports when we're starting to lose it.
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  Speaker 2: I just think it's one of those games. And I
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  Speaker 2: still think this, even despite the day and age of
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  Speaker 2: the portal, if you look on the rosters, there's so
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  Speaker 2: many kids from the state of Texas, so many kids
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  Speaker 2: that know each other too, right? I mean, A lot
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  Speaker 2: of the fans live amongst each other, too, right? I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I still think it has all the elements of great,
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  Speaker 2: great rivalry. And now, look, I'm probably a little biased.
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  Speaker 2: I grew up in Texas. My father was a football
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  Speaker 2: coach in Texas. I think as far as a rivalry
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  Speaker 2: that's not from the same state, like Alabama-Auburn is a
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  Speaker 2: different deal, right? Neighboring state's rival, I'm not sure there
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  Speaker 2: is one like this. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: You know, you talk about it being at the cotton
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  Speaker 1: bowl and I think there was, this is a different situation,
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  Speaker 1: but what immediately came to my mind when you said
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  Speaker 1: moving it to, if they ever moved it to Jerry
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  Speaker 1: world or wherever, um, or home and home or, you know, whatever.
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  Speaker 1: Florida state at Miami, Florida state, Miami, when it was
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  Speaker 1: on the road in the orange bowl felt different than
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  Speaker 1: Florida state, Miami. Now, now I'll say the two teams
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  Speaker 1: were typically a lot better when they played at the
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  Speaker 1: orange bowl. And so that made a difference too. It
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  Speaker 1: seems like when Florida state, Miami have played for the
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  Speaker 1: last while one's been really good and one's been really bad.
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  Speaker 1: And so you don't get as even of a matchup,
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  Speaker 1: but it did feel different at the old orange bowl.
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  Speaker 1: And I think it's some of that historic. Now, again,
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  Speaker 1: the games are in Tallahassee. Like it's been at Doak forever.
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  Speaker 1: So that's, that hasn't changed. But going into a pro stadium,
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  Speaker 1: and that's not even me, Rob, but, you know, ripping
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  Speaker 1: on Miami for pros that were interested, you know, like whatever.
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  Speaker 1: The old Orange Bowl had a different feel. And I've
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  Speaker 1: never thought about that until you just mentioned, like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: if they ever move this off of here, it would
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  Speaker 1: feel different. So, I mean, that's a great point.
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  Speaker 2: TJ, you have students at Texas or graduates at Texas
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  Speaker 2: that are 35 and 40 now that went and watched
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  Speaker 2: that game with their dad in the same stadium it's
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  Speaker 2: played in today. how many, I mean, there aren't many
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  Speaker 2: rivalries you can really say that about. And I think
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  Speaker 2: that makes it a little, I think that makes it
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  Speaker 2: a little different. I really do.
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  Speaker 1: In this game, you talked about like offense is getting better.
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  Speaker 1: Offense is getting healthy. Um, Oklahoma just saw, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: if we're going to give Texas crap for their offense,
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  Speaker 1: I feel like we could spend an hour doing the
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  Speaker 1: same thing about Oklahoma's offense, which has just been awful.
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  Speaker 1: You know, like it's not been clunky. It's just awful. Um, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I saw a stat just tonight when, when Oklahoma wins
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  Speaker 1: the turnover battle in the game, they win by, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know, something like 14 when they lose the turnover
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  Speaker 1: battle by one, it's something like they went by eight.
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  Speaker 1: And when they lose the turnover battle by two, it's
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  Speaker 1: like 14 plus, like they're just, you know, and that's
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  Speaker 1: been their problem. They just really can't get a lot going.
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  Speaker 1: And I, I don't know if there's a worse defense
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  Speaker 1: to see in the country when your offense is bad
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  Speaker 1: than Texas. So I'll preface a question with all of that.
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  Speaker 1: What the hell does Oklahoma do to try and to,
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  Speaker 1: to try, like, what do you eat? What's your even
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  Speaker 1: game plan? If you're Oklahoma's offense, like, are you better
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  Speaker 1: off just punting on first down? Like from an efficiency standpoint?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, look, I I've been saying this on our shows,
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  Speaker 2: even about Oklahoma leading up to this game, they have
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  Speaker 2: the Oklahoma I've known as an adult. has been Oklahoma
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  Speaker 2: with really good running back, sometimes an all-time great running back, right?
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  Speaker 2: And Adrian Peters are really good players. DeMarco Murray. They
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  Speaker 2: could always run the football. Oklahoma in recent years has,
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  Speaker 2: let's be honest, has pretty much sucked running the football
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  Speaker 2: from the running back position more than what you're accustomed
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  Speaker 2: to seeing. And this year, TJ, the last three games,
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  Speaker 2: which are at Michigan, New Mexico, Coach X really good.
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  Speaker 2: I've had multiple high school coaches that have won state
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  Speaker 2: titles tell me how good this guy is, and it's
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  Speaker 2: flying under the radar. And then at Georgia, the running
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  Speaker 2: backs have averaged combined 48, 49 yards a game. You
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  Speaker 2: can't– you're not winning in the SEC if your running
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  Speaker 2: backs can't rush for 50 yards, game in, game out.
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  Speaker 2: So there is a– Brent Venable said at SEC Media
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  Speaker 2: Days in Tampa, the goal was 175 rushing yards a game.
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  Speaker 2: Right now, I think they're under 100 and like 130th
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  Speaker 2: in the country. Yeah. They're so far off of where
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  Speaker 2: they wanted to be. That's why you see Brent Venable's after,
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  Speaker 2: I guess it was after the Georgia game was asked,
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  Speaker 2: you know, is there anything about the offense that's good?
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  Speaker 2: And he said, no. And he said nothing. And he sounded,
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  Speaker 2: it sounded, the press conference sounded like a funeral today. Yeah. Now,
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  Speaker 2: he's playing up his guys, right? Sure. This is their
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  Speaker 2: whole season coming up Saturday. But if Oklahoma can't find
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  Speaker 2: a run game against Texas, Mateer's already a riverboat gambler,
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  Speaker 2: risk-taker quarterback. But when he doesn't have any support running
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  Speaker 2: the football behind him, it puts even more pressure on him.
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  Speaker 2: And then going into the game this week, half the
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  Speaker 2: questions that Mateer is answering leading up to it are
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  Speaker 2: I mean, the week of the Texas OU game. So
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  Speaker 2: now the way this rivalry goes, everybody's left OU for dead.
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  Speaker 2: They'll probably win the game. I'm not thinking.
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  Speaker 1: That's what I was saying earlier with it being weird.
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  Speaker 1: Like I don't, I don't see, like I can sell
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  Speaker 1: myself not to go back to FSU, but I can
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  Speaker 1: sell myself on a path to Florida state beating Miami
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  Speaker 1: in two weeks. I think it's incredibly narrow. Like Ashton
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  Speaker 1: Daniels runs like. you know, he threw for three 77
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  Speaker 1: at Bama. If he goes through for three 50 down there,
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  Speaker 1: you get to shoot out. They have penalties and turnovers.
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  Speaker 1: Like I can't, I can't see the path.
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  Speaker 2: He's missing three starting secondary guys, right?
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  Speaker 1: Like they're, they're banged up. They've had guys miss games.
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  Speaker 1: I can see a path. I don't think it happens.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not predicting that. I don't see the path to
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  Speaker 1: Oklahoma winning. So like you said, they probably will.
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  Speaker 2: There's so much pressure on the tier. Yeah. If Oklahoma
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  Speaker 2: can't run the ball effectively at all. I don't see
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  Speaker 2: if Oklahoma can't run the ball effectively at all against Texas.
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  Speaker 2: How they win. Now, it's not Faison Brandon, a true
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  Speaker 2: freshman quarterback, right? But that was a road game at Tennessee. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: This is a neutral game for Texas, right? This is
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  Speaker 2: a split 50-50 with the fan base in Texas. I just,
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  Speaker 2: that's the hard thing for me. I don't see a
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  Speaker 2: path for Oklahoma if they can't have a breakout game
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  Speaker 2: running the football. Because how, if you can't run the
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  Speaker 2: football and you're in a bunch of third and longs,
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  Speaker 2: your offensive line, it's been banged up. It's had multiple
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  Speaker 2: starting fives. Fasusi hasn't played all year to stud left
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  Speaker 2: tackle the sophomore from the DFW area. How are they
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  Speaker 2: going to hold up in pass pro against the Texas
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  Speaker 2: defensive line? That's the only path for Oklahoma I see
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  Speaker 2: is if they kind of pull a run game together
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  Speaker 2: for the first time, unless there's a bunch of turnovers
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  Speaker 2: on the Texas side, pump return, Tennessee got a pump
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  Speaker 2: return for a touchdown, Texas really bad on special teams
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  Speaker 2: in that game. I think if Oklahoma can't run it,
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  Speaker 2: Texas almost has to give Oklahoma momentum plays.
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  Speaker 1: Which is what, so I was in Knoxville and that's
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  Speaker 1: what happened, right? Like if you, Tennessee made plays, right?
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  Speaker 1: But if Arch doesn't throw the pick, Arch got, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: as much as Faison got sacked, Arch got sacked six times.
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  Speaker 1: If he's not sacked six times, if he doesn't throw
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  Speaker 1: the pick, if you don't give up a special teams touchdown,
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  Speaker 1: the touchdown with, what, a minute and a half left
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  Speaker 1: was kind of just like a, oops, look what I found.
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  Speaker 1: And so you, I don't know, like if you're Oklahoma,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I guess you're hoping your defense replicates what,
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  Speaker 1: Tennessee's did and doesn't get leaned on, on that last drive.
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  Speaker 1: Cause I will say Tennessee's defense played really well. And I,
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  Speaker 1: it felt like they got worn down, you know, on
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  Speaker 1: that last drive where Texas just handed it off for,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, eight, nine yards of pop that drive
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  Speaker 1: and Tennessee just had nothing left in the tank outside
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  Speaker 1: of that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe they could have had a shot at the end,
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  Speaker 1: but yeah, that's where, I mean, they're going to go
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  Speaker 1: out there and they're going to ask an absolute ton
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  Speaker 1: out of Oklahoma's defense, which look, they held up against Georgia,
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  Speaker 1: you know, like George, they, they scored, Georgia scored 14.
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  Speaker 1: I'd say unassisted in the, in the first half, you
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  Speaker 1: had the pig six and you had the ball on
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  Speaker 1: the 11 yard line. And one of Georgia's touchdown started
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  Speaker 1: at the 46th of my math is right. So, you know,
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  Speaker 1: 54 yard drive, which I'll give the offense some credit
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  Speaker 1: for that, but they had short fields a lot. And, um,
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  Speaker 1: but material, Mateer hasn't shown the ability to not turn
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  Speaker 1: it over. And so that's, you know, like, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: do you just go super conservative if you're Venables and
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  Speaker 1: just take kind of the, the less risky route until
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  Speaker 1: you have to, like until you get down 14? Um,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, that's a strategy, you know, like it's probably
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  Speaker 1: not the worst one.
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  Speaker 2: To your point though, here's the, here's the issue for Oklahoma.
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  Speaker 2: If they don't have some enough success on first down,
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  Speaker 2: what's their path. I mean, like that are, I think
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  Speaker 2: both teams are going to struggle to long, sustained drive
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  Speaker 2: in this game. So I think first downs are critical
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  Speaker 2: for both of these teams. And first down defense for
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  Speaker 2: the opponent is really big. Because Texas, look, I don't
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  Speaker 2: think Sark wants Arch operating a bunch of third and longs.
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  Speaker 2: Because Oklahoma, I've been saying this on Coffee and Football, TJ.
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  Speaker 2: If you took every position on both teams and you said,
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  Speaker 2: rank them. You'd have the Texas D-line one and the
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  Speaker 2: Oklahoma D-line one. Those would be the top two positions
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  Speaker 2: in this game, very much like the Tennessee-Texas game was.
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  Speaker 2: I could see it being very similar, and no games
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  Speaker 2: are 100% the same. I could see it being very similar.
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  Speaker 2: Who can keep their quarterback out of the most third
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  Speaker 2: and longs in this game? I think it's critical because
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  Speaker 2: Sark doesn't want Arch back there in eight, nine third
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  Speaker 2: and longs in this game either because Oklahoma, Is Tennessee
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  Speaker 2: with a better secondary defense for me?
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  Speaker 1: Talked about Oklahoma's offense. I remember John McKay used to
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  Speaker 1: coach the Bucs. I mean, this is well before my time,
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  Speaker 1: but they asked him one time, what do you think
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  Speaker 1: about your team's execution? And he said, I'm in favor
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  Speaker 1: of it. Kind of reminds me of a kind of
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  Speaker 1: reminds me of the Oklahoma offense, but Texas on offense,
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  Speaker 1: we talk about how good Oklahoma's defense is and they're
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  Speaker 1: going to lean on them heavy and hope that they
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  Speaker 1: can hold. I mean, if you're Oklahoma and you want
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  Speaker 1: a chance, like outside of like a three turnover game
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  Speaker 1: for March or something, I, it almost feels like you
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  Speaker 1: got to hold Texas under 17. Can, you know, can they,
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  Speaker 1: and even that, like, if you told me right now,
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  Speaker 1: Texas score 17, I might say, I still like them,
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  Speaker 1: you know, like, I'm not sure that I think that
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  Speaker 1: the Sooners can get there without turnover special teams. Has
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  Speaker 1: Sark talked about getting better through the bye week? I mean,
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  Speaker 1: both teams got a bye week, but just getting better
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  Speaker 1: offensively and what their play to attack is?
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  Speaker 2: He's talked about consistency when he was asked Monday in
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  Speaker 2: the press conference. And I think that's kind of where
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  Speaker 2: he's diving into. And that's offensive line consistency. That's arch
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  Speaker 2: manning consistency. That's wide receiver consistency. I think he's talking
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  Speaker 2: consistency as a whole. And some Texas fans are hoping
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  Speaker 2: to hear, oh, we've done this and this and this,
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: but we're not going to tell you. That's not really
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: where Sark went, which probably means he will. But what
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: is so interesting about Texas offensively is year one against Oklahoma,
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: Sark was on fire in the first half of that game.
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: I think the first game against since then against Venables, though,
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: Venables has done a really good job on the first
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: drives of the game against Sark. Remember, you were at
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: the game last week where Sark's strength is, is the
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: opening script. He may be the best opening script guy
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: in college football. That doesn't mean you're the best in-game
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: play caller. You know that. Give me Chip Kelly right
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: now or something like that. People argue Lane Kiffin. Give
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: me the guy that breaks out the wing tee on
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: Penn State.
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: That was insane.
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: The guy is done more with more and he's doing
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: more with less. That's my guy right now. But Sark's
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: really good in the opening script. Brent Venables has done
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: pretty well against the opening script against Steve Sarkeesian. That
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: is huge, I think, for the Texas offense because you
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: were there. You saw Arch started 7-8. You're like, whoa.
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: Is Texas about to go score 28?
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you. I, so I was at the, well,
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: they play again this week too. I was at the
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: Bama Georgia game a couple of years ago.
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: And that thing started out 28, nothing. And then we're
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: turned over to stuff. But like, as soon as Texas
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: did that on what, seven place, six, how many, like,
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: I was like, oh man, did I just come up here?
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: Now that game ended up being great. That Georgia Bama one.
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: But I was like, was Tennessee not what I thought
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: they were like, am I about to watch like that script?
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: That was so good. And, um, Yeah, especially in a
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: game where the overrunner is 39. If you get 14
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: points out of both teams on the first two drives,
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: you still may not hit that, but you're starting to
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: sweat a little bit if you're an underbetter here.
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: Yes, so my point on that is I think if
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: Sark wins on the opening script in this game, if
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: Texas gets off to a good start offensively, if they
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: can put points on the board, like they did against Tennessee,
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: and Knowles is a great defensive coordinator, and he's got
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: really good defensive front. If Texas wins the script, let's
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: call it, of this game, that puts a lot of
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: pressure on Oklahoma offensively. If Venables can get this game
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: into the two-minute warning in the first half, and you're
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: looking at a 7-3 type game, 7-7 type game, man,
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: that pressure starts to turn to Texas. I think this
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: opening script, this opening quarter, is going to be really
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: big in this game. If Texas gets off to a
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: good start, they can put a lot of pressure on
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: the Oklahoma offense.
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: Do you think Stark will leave his play sheet lying around,
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: his opening script play sheet? I'll tell you, a lot
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: of people are giving Deion a hard time for that.
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: That was the only touchdown. drive they scored. Maybe he
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: should have left the whole playbook out. Yeah, exactly.
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: I don't know if you know the history of Texas OU.
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: Mike Leach left a fake one. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: That's what I was thinking.
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: In the tunnel. In the tunnel and Texas fell for it. Um,
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: I don't think anything like that's happening. Uh, I don't
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: see that.
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: I mean, not, I don't think Dion did it intentionally
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: just exercise. Yeah.
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: Brent Venables. Hey, look, Brent Venables was part of that.
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: So who knows?
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: Um, I, I talked about Georgia band a couple of
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: weeks ago. Uh, I find that matchup really, really interesting.
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: We'll predict, you know, Oklahoma, Texas here in just a
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: minute and get out. But Georgia Bama, I feel like
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: I have a little more faith in Georgia's defense, but
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: I also don't know that they've seen a great offense.
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: So I think that's just blind faith in Kirby Smart.
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: And I like the way Keelan's playing. I don't have
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: any clue who wins that game. I kind of want
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: to lean Bama because it's there, but I also lose my.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: Butt against Kirby Smart. Is the game even going to
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: be played at this point?
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's true. Maybe that's the better prediction.
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: Are they going to move it to a dome stadium somewhere?
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure what's going to happen. I will say
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: this about Alabama. I think that the game against FSU,
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: people are, oh, yeah, Bama, it's the same Bama. I
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: think we know after FSU, your team went out and
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: put a whooping on Virginia. Then maybe FSU is a
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: little better than I'm giving credit for, okay, offensively. I
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: would say with Alabama, the thing that just my naked
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: eye is telling me, they're an improved team at almost
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: every position. Does that mean they're going to beat Georgia?
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: It doesn't. But I think this Alabama team is a
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: lot better than last year. Am I predicting national championships?
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: Way too early for all this stuff. But I do
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: see a much– and a lot of people are just
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: throwing it to Keelan Russell. It goes beyond that, though.
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: They're tight ends. Yeah. I mean, their offensive line looks better.
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they remember that they can run the ball.
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Can Georgia– here's the thing in that game. Georgia's
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: best defensive players are their linebackers. Yeah. I think Alabama's
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: offensive line is still susceptible to pass rush, but does
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: Georgia have the front to do it? I'm not sure
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: they have the defensive front to do it. And can
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: you– I think the key against Alabama is– when you
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: play them is can you create pressure with four? Yeah.
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: If you can create pressure with four, it becomes much
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: easier to slow down Kalen DeBoer's offense with a dynamic quarterback,
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: with an improved running game, with a really good receiver core.
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: If Georgia has to bring the extra hat to get pressure,
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: then I think that plays into Kalen DeBoer's hands. Then
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: on the flip side of that is can Georgia control
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: the game with their run game? I'll tell you the
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: most interesting stat, TJ, was last week. I was just
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: flipping through, and I was watching C.J. Carr against North Carolina,
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: and it popped on the screen. The last 22 national
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: champions have averaged 160 yards rushing or more per game.
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: And now I've got that circled. I'm like, okay, and
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: you get in games like this, who can run the ball?
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: Can Georgia do what they always do, run the football?
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: Wherever they go, on the road, at home, whatever game
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: it is, can they play their style? If they can
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: play their style against Alabama, if that game's played in Tuscaloosa,
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: I think they have a good shot. But on the
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: flip side, I think Alabama's better in almost every position.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: So can Georgia actually create pass rush with four, or
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: are they going to have to bring more hats? Because
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: Alabama's a much better team, I think, personnel-wise than they
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: were a year ago.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: My buddy Danny that I do a big three show with,
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: Florida Florida State and Miami, has continued to bring up
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: rushing yardage. And I think we get so trendy. We
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: were talking at the beginning of this about like just
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: old school rivalry, things that matter in college football. We
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: get so trendy and it feels like every year there's
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: a new stat, you know, like average yards to go
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: on third down for offense and defense, or you turn
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: over margins always been big or time of possession, this, that,
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: and the other. if you just look at rushing yards,
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: like if you just look at rushing yards in almost
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: every game, it tells you the story of how the
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: game went, the team that wrote the football, but, and
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: it's so boring and it's so simple. Not, not, I
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: like seeing teams run the ball, but just from an
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: analytical standpoint, everybody's an analytics nerd. Now, if you just
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: look at rushing yards, that's usually enough to look at.
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: If you're running the ball, you're making more first downs.
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: Your defense is rested. I mean, you're probably not putting
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: the ball in harm's way as much. And it's amazing, like,
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: if you go look at the teams that are averaging
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: over 160 yards rushing right now that are contenders, that
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: I would say are contenders, and I'm not counting Texas
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: Tech and BYU, no offense, Tech will be 6-6 in
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: the SEC this year. They don't look good. Sorry, Tech
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: fans out there. But, and BYU will be about the same. Indiana, Miami, Georgia.
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: I mean, LSU's running it with Lane. We'll see if
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: they're healthy enough. Notre Dame. over 160 yards rushing per game.
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: Now it's, but really you look at the styles of
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: play and like some people like Notre Dame, they don't
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: play anybody. And I'm not saying they're going to win
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: a title, but you know what? They have an identity, right?
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: Miami has an identity. Indiana has an identity. You, when
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: you turn them on, you know what the identity of
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: that team and that program is. And so it's doesn't
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: in Georgia, the same way with Kirby. So it comes
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: without surprise that, that if the 160 yards rushing per
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: game is a benchmark, those four teams are probably going
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: to be in it all year in terms of matching
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: the number you need. Does that mean Indiana are going
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: to win a national championship this year? I don't know.
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: It's too early. But to your point, Alabama is now
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: averaging 187 rushing yards per game, and last year they
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: couldn't have run the ball. That's a big switch. That's
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: a big 180 they've made.
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: Something in-game, too, and I mentioned this with the Tennessee game,
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: but something in-game that you notice is it is– I mean,
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: Texas did not have a great rushing day at Tennessee
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: by any means. Their defense did a really good job.
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: But when a team is able to wear somebody down,
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: that running attack is like your best friend in the
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: fourth quarter.
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: Look how Texas beat Ohio State.
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah. You thought they'd have to pass. And they made–
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: Arch hit some throws for sure. But when you can
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: lean– and that word gets brought up so much. But
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: when you can lean in the fourth quarter, when hands
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: are on hips and guys are kind of bowing their heads,
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: And that was the difference in– I mean, they were
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: one anyway. You know, you take away an onside kick
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: and a prevent touchdown. But when they leaned, that's when
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: the game was put away, you know.
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: And they did it without Hollywood Smothers, who is their
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: best– Yeah, out for the game. Yeah. Who is their
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: best runner. Like, in Relique Brown, he had a great effort.
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: He's not a between-the-tackles guy, but he had to be
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: to the best of his ability on the road at Tennessee.
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: But Texas did that without Smothers. So, Texas healthy. Running back,
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: Derek Cooper, healthier. after an off week because he had
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: had the high ankle, the grade one he'd been dealing with.
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: But now you're full speed at running back this week
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: as well for Texas. So I think they need all
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: that to run on Oklahoma on this defensive front because
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: I think Oklahoma is going to win a considerable amount
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: of matchups in the one-on-ones in their defensive front seven.
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: So Texas is going to have to– they're going to
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: have to find a way to run the football because
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: the one thing I know about Texas going into this
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: game If they get outrushed by Oklahoma in this game,
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: they're going to throw their hands up because that should not.
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: Fan base will lose their mind.
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: Do you like the under? Give me a score for
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: this and we'll get out of here.
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: Man, every time. It's a rivalry game. I'm going to
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: say Texas 23-14, so I guess I am going with
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: the under. 23-14. Yeah, I think I was close. I
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: think I was like 21-10 or 21-13 or something like that.
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: I think I'm kind of in the same. it'll shock
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: me if somebody gets to 28 in this one, but again,
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: it's the rivalry. So we'll probably both be wrong.
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: Somebody's going to need help to get the 28. Somebody
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: needs some help, whether it's turnover, pick six special teams. Yeah.
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: Somebody's going to need help unless there's just coverage bus,
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: which I don't think we've seen much of on either
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: side this year. Yeah.
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: What do you guys got coming this week and where
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: can people follow and check out all your stuff?
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, look, on Texas football, a YouTube channel on texasfootball.com.
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: I've got a big thread going. I'm on the road
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: seeing recruits. I've been to see Jabarius Garore, Texas commit,
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: Jason Crenshaw, linebacker at Prattville, a new target that Texas offered,
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: Junior Tupou over at Thompson, over by Birmingham, Derwin Fields
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: in Mississippi. So I'm making my way to Dallas, seeing
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: a bunch of the Texas commits and targets. But we'll
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: have shows throughout the week on the YouTube channel. Come
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: join us at ontexasfootball.com for discussion, talk recruiting, talk football.
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: Whatever you want to talk, we're here for you.
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: Appreciate you, man. The fans always love when you're on.
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: They say, dude, this is our guy. So I always
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: appreciate you taking time, and we'll talk to you soon, bud.
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: Absolutely. Thanks, TJ.