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Bulldogs Fall at LSU: Can State Bounce Back? · Johnny's World

0:23
SPEAKER_02: All right.
0:25
SPEAKER_02: Welcome back to another episode of the Johnny's World Podcast.
0:28
SPEAKER_02: I'm BW joined by my co-host Johnny.
0:32
SPEAKER_02: Another losing uh week, Johnny.
0:35
SPEAKER_02: How are we doing?
0:36
SPEAKER_00: Two in a row.
0:37
SPEAKER_00: Two L's around.
0:38
SPEAKER_02: Two in a row.
0:39
SPEAKER_00: Two L.
0:39
SPEAKER_00: We got those four W's in a row, then two L's in a row.
0:42
SPEAKER_00: But uh hey man, uh when I uh when we did our preseason projections, I had us four wins and four losses in a row.
0:49
SPEAKER_00: So I was right on target on my picks.
0:52
SPEAKER_00: But uh yeah, man, that was really nothing to nothing to be surprised about.
0:57
SPEAKER_00: If you're a state fan, listen to this, going down there thinking we're gonna win with a uh freshman walk-on quarterback from Jackson Prepped, and we can't help you, man.
1:06
SPEAKER_00: Like we knew we were going in on the uh gunfight with a knife, you know.
1:11
SPEAKER_00: It's like uh but hey man, we we uh I thought personally, I thought what'd I say like 45 something?
1:17
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
1:18
SPEAKER_00: So we held him under to 45 points, which is good, but we just couldn't score, no offense, couldn't couldn't move the ball, which is kind of discouraging.
1:27
SPEAKER_00: Uh but hey, I don't know.
1:29
SPEAKER_00: And it's very discouraging in the press conference yesterday or Monday, uh Levy said that Camario was uh day by day, but he still has a lot of work to go.
1:42
SPEAKER_00: Has a lot of work to do.
1:43
SPEAKER_00: What does that even mean?
1:44
SPEAKER_00: That does not sound good, BW.
1:46
SPEAKER_00: That sounds like he's not ready.
1:47
SPEAKER_00: Sounds like he's not ready.
1:49
SPEAKER_00: And you know, I've been reading about this.
1:51
SPEAKER_00: Uh the tear, the turf toe, uh the the different grade one, grade two, grade three.
1:57
SPEAKER_00: Obviously, he's not a grade one.
1:59
SPEAKER_00: He's either grade two or grade three.
2:00
SPEAKER_00: If it's grade three, he's out for the year.
2:02
SPEAKER_00: It's like six to eight months recovery.
2:03
SPEAKER_00: If it's grade two, it's four to eight weeks.
2:06
SPEAKER_00: So we're entering week uh what three now, going on week four.
2:11
SPEAKER_00: So he'd have like three or four more weeks out.
2:14
SPEAKER_00: So man, it doesn't look good.
2:16
SPEAKER_00: It doesn't look promising at all.
2:18
SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
2:18
SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
2:19
SPEAKER_00: I just wish it'd be like we said last week.
2:21
SPEAKER_00: I wish I'd be honest.
2:22
SPEAKER_00: I mean, the fans at Mississippi State are paying the salaries of these nail guys, they deserve to know the truth, what's going on.
2:30
SPEAKER_00: Stupid eyed at this point.
2:31
SPEAKER_00: It's like just come out and tell us.
2:33
SPEAKER_00: But um, it doesn't sound like he's gonna play this weekend either.
2:37
SPEAKER_00: I wouldn't think.
2:38
SPEAKER_00: I'd be shocked if he if he's if he suits up, which is unfortunate because Oklahoma, uh, you know, even though I pre picked us preseason to lose this game, I really thought Oklahoma's showing that they're not that good this year, not like experts thought.
2:52
SPEAKER_00: And they lose this past weekend to Kentucky.
2:55
SPEAKER_00: I mean, having Camario and Pilof, it's no doubt, or we win.
2:59
SPEAKER_00: Just like last week in LSU, man, Camario and Biloff on that team playing, we would have beaten LSU.
3:06
SPEAKER_00: There's no doubt in my mind.
3:07
SPEAKER_00: It's just very, very unfortunate.
3:09
SPEAKER_00: It's a story of being a Mississippi State fan, man.
3:11
SPEAKER_00: It seems like it always happens.
3:13
SPEAKER_00: Uh, whenever you get good, something like this happens, but uh what can you do?
3:18
SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
3:19
SPEAKER_00: But you're right.
3:20
SPEAKER_00: Um, yeah, nothing the thing I have an issue with, and I know we were texting about this, but Levy, I was bashing Levy last year after that Florida game.
3:28
SPEAKER_00: I remember going on a rant, getting so mad at him for passing the ball in a situation that the game where all we had to do was run the ball, kick the field goal, win the game.
3:37
SPEAKER_00: I was so mad I was off of it.
3:39
SPEAKER_00: I was like, I'm out, I'm out, I'm out on Levy.
3:41
SPEAKER_00: And then and then he worked me back in, man, worked me back in with Camario.
3:45
SPEAKER_00: I was real Mr.
3:46
SPEAKER_00: Positive at the beginning of the year about him, thinking, you know, he's hired these six head coaches, they're gonna, they're gonna uh, you know, help him and not let him not make stupid decisions at the end of the game and all that sort of stuff.
3:58
SPEAKER_00: And here we are again, same situation.
4:00
SPEAKER_00: It looks like possibly going five and seven, six and six.
4:03
SPEAKER_00: Uh, but man, that that's really all on Camorio because we have him.
4:07
SPEAKER_00: It's just amazing how one guy, and it's true, man.
4:10
SPEAKER_00: Look at the NBA, look at look at what happened with LeBron James when he left the calves, how terrible they were when he was so good.
4:15
SPEAKER_00: It's just one guy can make a difference, and that's with Camorio.
4:19
SPEAKER_00: But the problem I have with Levy is the backup quarterback situation right now, and it's come to fruition right now.
4:25
SPEAKER_00: You know, we're playing Billy Puckett at quarterback, who's a freshman for uh a walk-on from Jackson Prep, which really, man, he has no business complaining.
4:34
SPEAKER_00: I mean, you're recruiting two guys, one guy from uh Vanderbilt, which is Vanderbilt, but it's in the SEC.
4:41
SPEAKER_00: And then you got and and he's been uh he's been in action, he's been playing SEC games, and then you got another guy Rashada.
4:47
SPEAKER_00: He's played at four different schools, but but he was at like Miami, all these schools, but there's a reason why he's at four different schools means he's not good.
4:54
SPEAKER_00: But so that's on Levy as far as recruiting and scouting him out, uh, because he says Puckett outplayed these two guys, which, you know, like I just said, that's on you, man.
5:05
SPEAKER_00: Like good for Billy Puckett if he really did earn this part of starting job and backup role, that's all on him for his work efforts.
5:13
SPEAKER_00: But then again, you hear all this bucket machinery money and all this sort of stuff, and the NIL, you know, who's who's to say that he he's not getting a nod because of his family's money, which I don't want to say that because I don't know for sure that's true.
5:24
SPEAKER_00: But if it, I mean, do the math, you know, the college football today is all about money.
5:30
SPEAKER_00: And it could he be playing this guy over those other two guys because of the NIL money?
5:35
SPEAKER_00: He might be.
5:36
SPEAKER_00: And the frustrating thing about it is we're up 31 to nothing BW.
5:41
SPEAKER_00: I mean, we're losing 31 to nothing.
5:42
SPEAKER_00: LC, right.
5:43
SPEAKER_00: Pucky played the whole game.
5:45
SPEAKER_00: Why, if you got these other two guys on the on the team that you've recruited that you thought were good enough to get a full scholarship to come to this state, why are you not putting them out there at all, giving them something?
5:55
SPEAKER_00: What's it gonna hurt?
5:56
SPEAKER_00: You know, when Pucky goes down, which there's a good chance he might get hurt.
5:59
SPEAKER_00: I mean, he is uh he's from down to prep and he's playing in the SET.
6:03
SPEAKER_00: What are you gonna do then?
6:04
SPEAKER_00: Like, what are you gonna do then?
6:05
SPEAKER_00: These guys will have never seen the field.
6:07
SPEAKER_00: I mean, I just don't understand it, man.
6:09
SPEAKER_00: I really don't.
6:10
SPEAKER_00: So I'm I'm really kind of ticked off about Levy in this situation.
6:15
SPEAKER_00: Uh is he is he being hard-headed about it?
6:17
SPEAKER_00: Does he know something we don't know?
6:18
SPEAKER_00: Uh are they hurt?
6:19
SPEAKER_00: Or I mean, I just don't understand why he would not give them a chance to at least play because we're in trouble if Puckett goes down.
6:26
SPEAKER_00: And I mean, Puckett, good for him, man.
6:28
SPEAKER_00: I mean, he got thrown into the fire at Tiger Stadium.
6:31
SPEAKER_00: But come on, man, Jackson Prep, we knew it all by MAIS football compared to the SEC football.
6:37
SPEAKER_00: It's two different, it's just night day difference.
6:40
SPEAKER_00: So I don't know.
6:41
SPEAKER_00: What's your take on it?
6:44
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you know, it I don't know if you watched any of the Saints game this weekend, but um I think they were up um because of Jameis.
6:52
SPEAKER_02: Um Jameis, Jameis turned into Jameis again.
6:55
SPEAKER_02: Uh, you know, he looked pretty decent after Dart went out, and uh he went in there and threw two quick picks.
7:02
SPEAKER_02: Uh and Saints capitalized on it, and they were up uh gosh, 31 to 7.
7:07
SPEAKER_02: So they were up a lot um in the fourth quarter, and they finally pulled Jameis and they put in McCarthy.
7:14
SPEAKER_02: And first thing McCarthy does is he throws a pick.
7:18
SPEAKER_02: Um, but after that, he settled he settles in, and they almost if they had had about 10 more seconds left on the clock, they would have won that game.
7:27
SPEAKER_02: Um McCarthy just came in and looked all world, and he's I mean, their third string quarterback, I guess.
7:33
SPEAKER_02: Um maybe uh, you know, the the way the line is is blocking.
7:38
SPEAKER_02: Um, you know, Puckett's gonna be scrambling for his life.
7:41
SPEAKER_02: Maybe he he ends up, something happens to him, one of these other guys comes in, and maybe maybe we uh we see the light.
7:47
SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
7:48
SPEAKER_02: Um but I have no idea.
7:51
SPEAKER_02: I don't I don't get it.
7:52
SPEAKER_02: Um doesn't make any sense to me.
7:54
SPEAKER_02: Uh also the running back situation.
7:56
SPEAKER_02: Um you know JJ Hill or JJ Hill.
8:00
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
8:00
SPEAKER_02: Where is he?
8:02
SPEAKER_02: Um right.
8:02
SPEAKER_02: I mean, clearly the other guys aren't doing anything.
8:06
SPEAKER_02: Um, so yeah, and and we hear about we heard all offseason about our running back depth, how great our running back room is.
8:13
SPEAKER_02: Um Bluff goes out and uh we don't have anything.
8:16
SPEAKER_02: Um so I I don't know.
8:20
SPEAKER_00: There's questions that are just mind-boggling.
8:22
SPEAKER_00: It's like just be honest.
8:24
SPEAKER_00: I Levy just comes across as a guy that's like won't open up, just straight just straight faced, just just be honest, man.
8:32
SPEAKER_00: Tell him what's going on, you know.
8:34
SPEAKER_00: Like the fans deserve to know.
8:36
SPEAKER_00: And I mean, you're getting beat unmercifully in the game.
8:40
SPEAKER_00: What's it gonna hurt to put JJ Hill played that first game, first touch that he ever got as a college football player, ran it for a touchdown.
8:46
SPEAKER_00: He's a really good running back.
8:48
SPEAKER_00: And uh, I don't understand why would you not put him in for more reps?
8:52
SPEAKER_00: And these quarterbacks, I'm telling you, BW, is I I I just can't get over it.
8:56
SPEAKER_00: Like, if Puckett goes down, we're screwed.
8:59
SPEAKER_00: And and I don't understand, we're already screwed having him in there, but like not even giving him a chance to play, I just don't understand it unless he knows something that we don't know.
9:08
SPEAKER_00: But if he does, why why would you not say it?
9:10
SPEAKER_02: But yeah, well, I mean it's the same thing as last year.
9:13
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you know, shaping shaping plays the whole year.
9:17
SPEAKER_02: Right.
9:18
SPEAKER_02: Well, you've got Camario sitting on the bench.
9:20
SPEAKER_02: I mean, exactly.
9:21
SPEAKER_02: Why not?
9:21
SPEAKER_02: I mean, you're you lost his red shirt, all you're doing is running then in you know, fourth and one, third and one situation.
9:27
SPEAKER_00: Like you like he has a he has a thing with quarterbacks where like you put him in, like oh, put him in, he has to play the whole game.
9:33
SPEAKER_00: It's like look at what Steve Spurr did in the 90s, man.
9:36
SPEAKER_00: With his starting quarterback, he would yank him out different plays.
9:38
SPEAKER_00: Oh, you didn't do good, put that guy in, put that guy in.
9:40
SPEAKER_00: And he won.
9:41
SPEAKER_00: Two quarterbacks just I mean, but for some reason, Levy stuck with one guy when you put him in.
9:46
SPEAKER_00: I don't I don't it's mind-boggling, man.
9:49
SPEAKER_00: I don't I don't understand it.
9:50
SPEAKER_00: Very frustrating.
9:51
SPEAKER_02: But Nick Saban pulls uh pulled uh what's his name out?
9:55
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, the national championship game.
9:57
SPEAKER_00: Jalen Hurts pulls Jalen Hurts and plays to it.
10:01
SPEAKER_00: Uh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
10:02
SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
10:04
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and and that's the end of Jalen Hurts, and then he goes there to transfers the OU after that.
10:11
SPEAKER_00: But uh I just don't know.
10:13
SPEAKER_00: I mean, you gotta work, you gotta go.
10:15
SPEAKER_00: If something's not working, don't keep doing it, you know.
10:19
SPEAKER_00: You gotta change, you gotta figure it out.
10:22
SPEAKER_02: Mullen did that stuff too, though.
10:24
SPEAKER_00: Mullen was bad about that.
10:26
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we had we had keton, which everyone was putting wanting keton Thompson to go in the game, and and he never played keton.
10:34
SPEAKER_00: And then what happened in the egg bowl in 2017?
10:36
SPEAKER_00: Fitzgerald goes down with a broken ankle and throwing in keton, and he had no career, uh, previous experience playing because he never got in anything.
10:44
SPEAKER_00: And we if we if he had had previous experience playing, possibly would have come back and won that game.
10:49
SPEAKER_00: So uh, and I can understand not playing a second, third string quarterback when when you got your main guy in there like that year with Dan with Fitzgerald, you're not gonna take out Nick Fitzgerald and put in Keeton Thompson when he's doing good.
11:02
SPEAKER_00: But when you're down to your you're like you're never gonna take out Camario to do that.
11:06
SPEAKER_00: But when your Camario's hurt and you got a backup end, and they're not performing, or the team's not performing, they're down, there's no no risk whatsoever of trying another guy.
11:18
SPEAKER_00: That's my doubt.
11:20
SPEAKER_02: I don't get it.
11:21
SPEAKER_02: Well then and Mullen would do that read option stuff and gain one yard, two yards, one yard, one yard, yeah, one yard, third and six, and and you know, just constant, like non-stop, and you know, like try to burn the clock or whatever.
11:35
SPEAKER_02: But yeah, man, just uh it takes me back to the conspiracy theory.
11:40
SPEAKER_02: Maybe maybe somebody in SEC office is saying, All right, Mississippi State, uh, this is what you have to do.
11:46
SPEAKER_02: You have to just uh basically give the game away, don't play all your players, like you're missing state.
11:51
SPEAKER_02: Fall in line.
11:52
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
11:53
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
11:54
SPEAKER_00: And and so he's like and Libby's like the office, like like it's not in this particular game, but in previous games where we've needed to melt the clock, he's running no hurry up offense.
12:03
SPEAKER_00: I'm like, dude, yeah, just slow it down.
12:05
SPEAKER_00: Texas game last year.
12:06
SPEAKER_00: It's like, what are we doing?
12:07
SPEAKER_00: Why are we running?
12:09
SPEAKER_00: I mean, this guy's getting paid millions of dollars.
12:11
SPEAKER_00: And and we know this stuff, PW.
12:13
SPEAKER_00: It's it's common sense knowledge.
12:15
SPEAKER_00: I how can he be that dumb?
12:16
SPEAKER_00: I just I just don't get it, man.
12:18
SPEAKER_00: I really don't understand it if the guy overthinks or what, but he's supposed to have these all these different head coaches that he hired in the offseason to help him in situations like this.
12:26
SPEAKER_00: And are they, I mean, you surely they would have said something like, look, we need to try something, or is he just stubborn and won't do it?
12:33
SPEAKER_00: I I don't know, but it's very frustrating.
12:35
SPEAKER_00: But I guess we'll know more this weekend, BW.
12:38
SPEAKER_00: Uh, Oklahoma's coming in, and uh John Matiran, and you know, like I said earlier, uh, this was a game at the beginning of the season before the season started.
12:47
SPEAKER_00: I was like, up, hell, no way we beat them.
12:49
SPEAKER_00: But man, Oklahoma is looking terrible all year.
12:52
SPEAKER_00: They get that big win over Texas, but then Texas is looking like terrible too.
12:56
SPEAKER_00: So everybody outside, pretty much everybody outside of Ole Miss is looking not so great in the SEC right now.
13:02
SPEAKER_00: Uh, but they're dropping games and stuff.
13:04
SPEAKER_00: And uh all and it's so frustrating, like we said, because if we had Camario, all these games would be winnable for Mississippi State.
13:12
SPEAKER_00: No doubt.
13:13
SPEAKER_00: No, they'd be winnable.
13:14
SPEAKER_00: And uh, but man, I uh if I could play it again, I I think it's another L BW.
13:21
SPEAKER_00: I think it's not close.
13:21
SPEAKER_00: I think it's a blowout again.
13:22
SPEAKER_00: What's your take?
13:23
SPEAKER_00: You think it's a blowout?
13:25
SPEAKER_02: I think it's a blowout.
13:26
SPEAKER_02: Well, you know, uh unfortunately it seems like the strength of Oklahoma is their defense.
13:33
SPEAKER_02: Um and we won't be able to score yet.
13:36
SPEAKER_02: No, right, yeah.
13:38
SPEAKER_02: So I don't think we're scoring.
13:40
SPEAKER_02: Um, but I don't I don't think their offense is great.
13:43
SPEAKER_02: Um I mean I could see something like 21 to 3.
13:47
SPEAKER_02: Um, you know, if if we don't have Camario, which I'm assuming we don't have Camario, um, I think it's closer, not as big of a blowout as last week, but still.
13:58
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I don't think it'll be as big of a blowout as last week, but uh, I don't think we'll be able to score.
14:02
SPEAKER_00: Um, I did hear this from heyd.
14:04
SPEAKER_00: Uh they were kind of dogging uh Zach Arnett for the defense being soft.
14:09
SPEAKER_00: Uh I really couldn't tell.
14:10
SPEAKER_00: Uh, could you see that on the field?
14:12
SPEAKER_00: They were saying that they weren't being the aggressive Zach Arnett defense like we normally are used to seeing, that they were playing soft coverage and and not blitzing and not going after.
14:22
SPEAKER_00: And it did look like from from the get-go that you know, you would think an 11 a.m.
14:28
SPEAKER_00: game at Tiger Stadium, LSU would come out being the sleepy team, uh, not wanting to play and everything.
14:35
SPEAKER_00: But it did look like on our end, like we had already lost the game before the game even started.
14:39
SPEAKER_00: Like we're we're kind of discouraged, and you could tell that that body image, you just looking heads hanging low.
14:46
SPEAKER_00: And man, when you come in a game like that, you're gonna get blown out.
14:49
SPEAKER_00: Uh and I felt like we had already from the get-go said up, we're gonna lose.
14:54
SPEAKER_00: Um, so I don't know what what were you gonna take on the defense in Zach Carnett?
14:57
SPEAKER_00: I I don't know.
14:59
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I I did feel like that too.
15:01
SPEAKER_02: I mean, they're they're just I mean, like you said, the whole the whole team just felt like that.
15:05
SPEAKER_02: The funny thing though is is the guy that had the most energy was Camario on the sideline, uh trying to hype up Billy Puckett.
15:11
SPEAKER_02: Uh yeah.
15:12
SPEAKER_02: I mean, he's he was with them the whole game, um, coaching him, and and as soon as he was that first possession, he threw the pick, um, you know, he he runs up to him, kind of like kind of gives him a little hug and basically trying to like calm him down.
15:26
SPEAKER_02: And and man, what a teammate.
15:28
SPEAKER_02: Um but yeah, I mean, nobody else, I mean, everybody else just kind of heads down, just just it was hard to watch for sure.
15:36
SPEAKER_02: I mean, I mean, pretty much after the first five, ten minutes, this game is over.
15:41
SPEAKER_02: I mean, you just see it, feel it, just as soon as it happened.
15:44
SPEAKER_02: I felt bad for you having to sit there and watch it the whole time.
15:46
SPEAKER_00: Oh, it was frustrating.
15:47
SPEAKER_00: That that one pass he threw, uh someone told me he got hit.
15:51
SPEAKER_00: I didn't see it from my seat, but all I could see is the pass that he threw was directly to the LSU guy.
15:57
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and there was no state guy even around him for no two yards.
16:01
SPEAKER_00: I mean, just it looked like he was just throwing straight to him.
16:04
SPEAKER_00: I was like, what in the world are we doing, man?
16:06
SPEAKER_00: Like, but uh yeah, it was very frustrating to watch.
16:09
SPEAKER_00: Uh the game was freezing cold, BW.
16:11
SPEAKER_00: Uh got there early that morning, and I had to park at Alex Box and walked like two or three miles.
16:17
SPEAKER_00: The wind was blowing, it was freezing cold.
16:19
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, the seat where we're where my seat was was in the state section, but it was under an awning.
16:24
SPEAKER_00: So the wind was like just whipping, man, back and forth, and it was freezing cold.
16:29
SPEAKER_00: But then, like the people out in the sun, you know, they're they're warm.
16:33
SPEAKER_00: So the whole first half, pretty much up until the third quarter, people by halftime, people were leaving.
16:39
SPEAKER_00: But uh about the fourth quarter, I moved on down to where the sun was.
16:43
SPEAKER_00: It got warmer, but those seats were uh freezing cold.
16:46
SPEAKER_00: But um did have a funny uh thing happen to me.
16:49
SPEAKER_00: So so as I said last week on the podcast, I was hoping that I was really hoping to see uh Cookie Kiffin.
16:54
SPEAKER_00: I went out to the Tiger Walk, got to see Mike the Tiger, that was cool.
16:58
SPEAKER_00: Um, and the tiger walk that morning because I wanted to see uh Lane and Cookie and who what the celebrities Lane had with him on the tiger walk.
17:06
SPEAKER_00: Well, I was standing there and I got a good seat for the tiger walk, just standing there right there, like on the front.
17:11
SPEAKER_00: And I'm like, oh, this is great.
17:13
SPEAKER_00: Well, it turned out the locker, LSU locker room, is before the area where I was.
17:18
SPEAKER_00: So Lane and the players like jetted off to the left because the locker room and the band kept coming to where I was.
17:24
SPEAKER_00: So I didn't get to see Lane or the players.
17:26
SPEAKER_00: I was kind of bummed out.
17:27
SPEAKER_00: I was like, dang it, I didn't get to see uh see Cookie.
17:30
SPEAKER_00: And but it turned out I ended up seeing it was Willie Robertson with him as the guest uh guest celebrity today, walking uh Tiger Walk with him.
17:37
SPEAKER_00: And then later on that night he was at the uh Louisiana Monroe game.
17:40
SPEAKER_00: I saw, but uh anyway, so I'm bummed out.
17:42
SPEAKER_00: I'm like, man, didn't get to see Cookie.
17:44
SPEAKER_00: All right.
17:44
SPEAKER_00: So I walk into the stadium and uh trying to find my seat.
17:48
SPEAKER_00: And as I'm walking in to the concourse area, I look up, man, and like right in front of me, there's Cookie Kiffin.
17:55
SPEAKER_00: I'm like, I'm like, Cookie, cookie.
17:58
SPEAKER_00: He like turns around, he has like this hoodie on, he turns around, he's like uh running in the concourse to the door LSG locker room, and and I say his name, he looked back, smirkishly gives me a smile, and sees that I had on Maroon in Mississippi State, and he yelled out hottie toddy, and ran into the locker room.
18:14
SPEAKER_00: So I was like, I didn't get to snap a picture or talk to him or anything because it happened so fast.
18:19
SPEAKER_00: I'm like, dude, you just said hottie tottie.
18:22
SPEAKER_00: Did you is it because I have on state gear and you said that to joke around?
18:26
SPEAKER_00: Or have you been just installed saying hottie tottdy your whole life growing up in Oxford that you forgot to say go tigers?
18:33
SPEAKER_00: I don't know what it was, man.
18:34
SPEAKER_00: But he didn't say go tigers, he said hottie tottie and ran into the locker room, but it was a pretty priceless moment.
18:39
SPEAKER_00: It was really funny.
18:40
SPEAKER_00: Uh uh he's an interesting guy.
18:43
SPEAKER_00: But uh, but yeah, the stadium was cool.
18:46
SPEAKER_00: Um, you know, I've been there many times before, but there's nothing like a night game there.
18:50
SPEAKER_00: I mean, it's cool during the day, anytime you go, but night game and tiger stadium just off a different level, man.
18:55
SPEAKER_00: Um atmosphere and everything.
18:57
SPEAKER_00: It was like I said, it was cold.
18:59
SPEAKER_00: There were a few empty seats there, uh, but it was still Robot Tiger Stadium, which is always cool.
19:07
SPEAKER_00: Um then went and tailgated after the game with my uh family that was down there and went over to their new house and and uh got to see their dogs and all that sort of stuff.
19:17
SPEAKER_00: We got to eat at some good restaurants that uh that I like to eat at.
19:20
SPEAKER_00: And uh overall it was a good trip, man.
19:22
SPEAKER_00: And uh, but yeah, just frustrated that we couldn't score any points.
19:26
SPEAKER_00: But they were I was surprised, but there were a lot of Mississippi State fans there.
19:30
SPEAKER_00: Uh, you know, going into the game knowing that we're not without our top guy, Pamario Hartful of the travel.
19:37
SPEAKER_00: Miss B State travel party would have said, hey, we're not going out, we're gonna get killed.
19:41
SPEAKER_00: But there were a lot of Mystic State fans there, it's a problem for them for uh down there.
19:45
SPEAKER_00: And of course, like I said, this is LSU Tiger Stadium.
19:48
SPEAKER_00: It's one of the experience you got experience if you haven't done it before, so maybe that's why some of them were or or what.
19:54
SPEAKER_00: But uh it was still uh still fun, uh, fun trip.
19:58
SPEAKER_00: Glad I went, but uh just I'm expecting the same results the rest of the year until we get word on Camario that he gets in the game.
20:05
SPEAKER_00: Or I mean even if you even if you get bluff back, that that won't make a difference.
20:09
SPEAKER_00: Maybe so that should make a difference.
20:11
SPEAKER_00: But it's just amazing to see how one guy, one guy that good contains the direction of a season in a program, and that's that's that's showing it right now with Camario.
20:21
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you know, I kind of wish we had, you know, last year we had uh we had uh Luke Kronenhawk.
20:27
SPEAKER_00: Remember that guy?
20:28
SPEAKER_00: I know that's what I was wondering about.
20:29
SPEAKER_00: I was like, wonder what he's doing.
20:31
SPEAKER_00: He tr he transferred to South Florida, and guess who he's backing up as a quarterback in South Florida?
20:37
SPEAKER_00: Michael Van Buren.
20:38
SPEAKER_00: Michael Van Buren is South Florida's a starting quarterback, and Cromanhawk is backing him up.
20:43
SPEAKER_00: So two former state quarterbacks are at South Florida.
20:46
SPEAKER_00: But man, wouldn't it be nice to add uh Luke Kromenhawk right now, about right now, because you know he transferred out?
20:53
SPEAKER_00: Or Van Buren, yeah.
20:54
SPEAKER_00: Uh can you do that?
20:56
SPEAKER_00: Can you come back?
20:57
SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
20:58
SPEAKER_00: No telling this day and age of college football.
21:01
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but uh yeah, I think if if if Croman Hawk looked to see what were the future, he uh he obviously left because he knew he wasn't gonna be replacing Mario by any means.
21:11
SPEAKER_00: And uh but little did he know that the situation would be in.
21:14
SPEAKER_00: But uh yeah, it's it's kind of weird that Van Buren and Croman Hawk are both at South Florida, but that's just the way it goes.
21:22
SPEAKER_00: College football and 46 transferring in and out.
21:25
SPEAKER_00: But uh, but these two guys that that we got that Lebe obviously just overlooked.
21:31
SPEAKER_00: I mean, kind of like the basketball team last year, the Jans guy.
21:35
SPEAKER_00: We got those guys coming in.
21:36
SPEAKER_00: He thinks, I guess on paper and scouting them, they look really good.
21:40
SPEAKER_00: And then when he put them out on the court, it was just a disaster.
21:42
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
21:43
SPEAKER_00: But I guess I guess what Lebe sees in practice shows that uh they're not that good.
21:48
SPEAKER_00: But you know, Roshada, I mean, four schools in in the years he'd been there, that's a sign right there.
21:54
SPEAKER_00: It's like if you keep transferring to all these different schools, there's a reason behind that.
21:58
SPEAKER_00: You're not you're not you're not good.
21:59
SPEAKER_00: You're you're trying to or you're trying to get the starting job or you're losing it at all these places.
22:04
SPEAKER_00: But yeah, I I looked at I saw that on Twitter the other day.
22:06
SPEAKER_00: Someone posted his like bio of all the different schools.
22:09
SPEAKER_00: But I think he started committing in like 2021 or 2022.
22:14
SPEAKER_00: And it was just run right after the next like Florida, mine.
22:17
SPEAKER_00: They were big schools.
22:18
SPEAKER_00: And then he did up at like Sacramento State.
22:21
SPEAKER_00: And uh so it just he's obviously not very good.
22:25
SPEAKER_00: But and now I've heard AJ Swan might be hurt, which may be the case.
22:28
SPEAKER_00: But he was he was dressed out.
22:29
SPEAKER_00: But uh just tell us if he is exactly that's my issues like just be honest.
22:34
SPEAKER_00: The fans this day and age the fans deserve to know.
22:37
SPEAKER_00: And you're not hiding anything from other other school when others like Lane like I was I was part of me was thinking I was like you think Levy's pulling a Lane Kiffin on Lane Kiffin and it's gonna try to outcomorio out there and tell everybody that he's hurt but nope that's that wasn't the case at all and that's only only Lane would be doing stuff like that.
22:54
SPEAKER_00: But uh another thing about Camario like we don't want to he like like we said Bo bounds we're talking about before Bo's like he's gonna play he's gonna play you don't want Camario to play if there's a chance that he's gonna re-aggravate it he's gonna be out for the year.
23:07
SPEAKER_00: You want to be sure you want to be sure that he's healthy enough to to play and it's not going to damage him anymore or do any more damage.
23:15
SPEAKER_00: So you got to be cautious on that.
23:17
SPEAKER_00: And hey look if he's out for the season he's out for the season.
23:19
SPEAKER_00: But you got to do what's best for him and his toe and uh and and you know I know he's a team player wants to be out there but man he's very valuable and we need him back again next season healthy.
23:30
SPEAKER_00: So we don't want to do anything that's going to jeopardize the future so uh we'll see what happens but from my perspective I think I think Billy Bucket's gonna start again this weekend and we're gonna roll with it and we'll see what happens.
23:44
SPEAKER_00: Yep I agree.
23:45
SPEAKER_00: I guess you didn't get to watch any of the other games uh man i missed I missed all the football games this weekend I didn't watch any of them saw the replays it was a wild day though all these upsets and Georgia I think I jinxed Georgia BW last week I was like Georgia's winning it all they're going undefeated they beat Alabama I don't see anybody beating them they're the best Kirby's the new Nick Saban I was like and then I said that and then they lose so I did get to watch the end of the Florida State Miami game uh Saturday night did you see the ending of that game?
24:14
SPEAKER_00: That was wild.
24:14
SPEAKER_00: No I didn't see that so Florida State was winning most of the game and and then Miami made a comeback and then uh Florida State scored and it went into overtime they they scored it like this hell Mary and it went into overtime and then Miami scored and then Florida State had a chance again and they threw threw the ball and it was uh they dropped it and it was past interference or something so they redid they had to redo the play they redid the play again he threw it up in the air and the Florida State guy caught it and then the Miami guy caught it also at the same exact time pretty much and then they called it the interception Miami ended up winning.
24:52
SPEAKER_00: But Florida State caught the ball it was really six ways so it went down went down to the wire and that was a crucial game with the standings because Miami's number one now they're undefeated so Florida State has not been good this year.
25:04
SPEAKER_00: So if they had knocked him out that would have been another knockout to the top five losing all these games and uh and then BYU ended up beating uh Notre Dame and old Kiki I saw him he was crying about that yeah that was a good game yeah I did watch that one yeah so did I'm sure you've seen all the memes of the Alabama coach uh oh yeah yeah I was watching that game and I was thinking what in the world is wrong with him uh it was it was weird I was trying to figure out like was he could he cut could he not hear was he having a nervous breakdown like I don't know it I I couldn't figure it out that was it was it was kind of wild.
25:42
SPEAKER_00: I didn't get to watch that game at all but it looked like Tennessee just just dominated them hard to finish yeah they I mean they should have won by more they just had they came up with field goals the first half um it was crazy I don't I don't know it's it's so hard to figure out football so hard to figure out man when we're two weeks ago when they whooped us we're like man Alabama they're they're they're back to Alabama like they ain't gonna lose and last week I was like Georgia ain't gonna lose and wow then they both lose again so yeah well you just gotta think man if we're healthy I know that's that's really frustrating to me doesn't really frustrating knowing that we're healthy with Camario we can beat everybody in SEC it's crazy it it really is right now it's it's uh Georgia Kentucky Ole Miss Ole Miss is the top right now with Kentucky not Texas yeah yeah Tennessee Ole Miss Kentucky and Georgia and Tennessee are the top dogs right now and uh and Ole Miss whooped Missouri so I'm I would think their favorite would be number one in the SEC right now.
26:42
SPEAKER_00: Don't you know Lane though is just kill keeping himself or not getting Trinidad down at LSU and man if Trinidad was at LSU I think I would Pennsylvania and LSU for the national championship no doubt.
26:53
SPEAKER_00: Like it's Levit is not a very good quarterback man uh not good at all and uh just average at best.
27:00
SPEAKER_00: Same thing with Arnold Manning.
27:01
SPEAKER_00: He's just living off the Manning name he's an average quarterback but yeah I know and Trinidad just it's just a stud.
27:09
SPEAKER_00: And uh I think BW the way it's going right now maybe I'll jinx him by saying this but I think Ole Miss is going to win the uh SEC I think they're gonna go to the SEC championship game.
27:19
SPEAKER_00: And this is the first time you know we always hold that over old Mess like hey you never you never won the West even though there's no West anymore but you've never played in Atlanta never been to the SEC championship game.
27:29
SPEAKER_00: And we always as state fans proud to say that because they were the only team in the West to not go for the long all these years.
27:36
SPEAKER_00: And man the way it looks like right now could be old Miss Georgia Kentucky or Tennessee has it right now.
27:43
SPEAKER_02: Yeah you know so they they play Texas and Georgia still yeah and I think they I think they roll over Texas um the Georgia game I think is close and I think they'll lose to Georgia if they if they lose to Georgia that'd be two losses for them.
27:59
SPEAKER_00: Yeah I don't know that'll be two losses because they lost to Florida.
28:03
SPEAKER_00: So Georgia I think Georgia I don't I don't know what happened to them but they fumbled it in an inopportune time they kicked the field goal off of it but I think Georgia went out and uh probably pretty much who plays him I don't know but uh everybody's uh everybody for the most part has two losses minus minus those teams we just mentioned so yeah we're still technically in it but it doesn't feel like I know right we're in it but it definitely doesn't feel like at all yeah uh but hey who knows um but yeah I mean like even with Texas coming up and on Halloween night you know a healthy Camario I like our champions in Austin beating Texas I mean there's really nobody outside of Ole Miss on the schedule with Camario at full extreme that I think that oh we might struggle we might have a hard time would be the only one but but right now I mean you gotta have Jackson Prep in there like against all these big dogs in SEC I mean you know what's gonna happen so it's just very very very frustrating.
29:06
SPEAKER_00: But man he's living his dream I guess man can you picture me going to Jackson Prep and then getting thrown into the fire in Tiger Stadium Tiger Stadium.
29:13
SPEAKER_00: Yeah like here you go there's your first start go good wow you know probably scared man oh yeah well we'll see what happens uh happens weekend it's kind of weird it's a blackout game BW is at 2 30.
29:27
SPEAKER_00: It's like what the heck man like I think they were banking on this game being a night game because you have blackout wanted to be at night like it was for Arizona State last year but yeah uh it's kind of weird this can be blackout during the day but um yeah I like the blackout I hate they're doing it like that.
29:42
SPEAKER_00: I why don't they I guess they plan that in advance but why don't they change it up based on what's going on I don't know I know right wait for a night game or something and do something like that.
29:52
SPEAKER_00: Like you know we had the night game again who would play at night earlier uh Missouri Missouri that would have been a perfect time to do that one.
30:00
SPEAKER_00: Um I guess they didn't want to do that because Missouri's colors are black.
30:03
SPEAKER_00: So um yeah I don't know kind of weird but anyway uh we'll we'll see what happens but I'm with you man 21 I'm not gonna say we score I'm gonna say 21-0 uh that we get shut out again but uh I don't think they'll put up 31 points like the LSU did but I think Oklahoma's defense is gonna keep us out of end zone.
30:22
SPEAKER_00: We don't have flood for Camario be very very tough again.
30:25
SPEAKER_00: So um and then it's just that it's gonna get tougher every week man without without Camario.
30:31
SPEAKER_00: I mean do you think I know this is looking looking ahead you think we could even beat Tennessee tech with Billy or is that that can be tough man I don't know that's that's sad to think that's the state of things that's the state of things right now man.
30:45
SPEAKER_00: Yeah yeah we struggled was that like two years ago when we went two and ten you remember that that game we had the Toledo uh yeah we went whooped by Toledo and then we had a game against uh was it UMass I can or somebody like that and we were struggling in that one in the first half and they were like winless I was like oh my God but Tennessee Tech I heard Adat say the other day is actually a pretty good uh team for their division or league.
31:10
SPEAKER_00: I was like great that's that's good comparison yeah if we go because if we lose that man we're gonna we'll probably finish four four and eight or five and seven or something.
31:20
SPEAKER_00: So you gotta at least get uh we got four wins we gotta get at least two more and Vanderbilt you would think possibly they're not like they were with Pavia and then uh with Tennessee Tech we think those would be the six wins to get the ball eligibility but uh it's just frustrating that we're saying that when we really had expectations of going nine wins you know now they're trying to get six but that's just what how it goes when it when you get an injured player like that.
31:45
SPEAKER_00: But uh sure it does.
31:47
SPEAKER_00: But we'll see what happens.
31:48
SPEAKER_00: But uh hopefully they'll they're recruiting right now for next year and have a better plan for backup quarterbacks.
31:55
SPEAKER_00: Uh because you never know you're one player away from backup quarterback being thrown in.
32:00
SPEAKER_00: So it's just poor planning on Levy's part.
32:02
SPEAKER_02: But uh anyway hopefully we can we can uh put some promise in and the best case scenario is Camario comes back really really soon and I mean even without a full healthy Camario but semi-healthy Camario I think we still win games like just yeah having his presence in the lineup and being in there and if he would have run like he's I wonder how hurt he was in the Missouri game looking back at that game um the way it kind of played out like uh I'm wondering if he got hurt earlier in that game and he had that lull there um yeah I don't know yeah I don't think it was a obviously he wasn't in full screen though for the beginning of the Bama game so yeah it could have been could have been from that from that game but uh yeah so frustrating to see how good we were with him looking at the watching the Minnesota game and the South Carolina game was like wow we're in for a special season with this guy he's a stud when this happens at uh just aware of our life being a state fan man but uh but yeah we'll see what happens man with OU and and uh hopefully we can put some points on the scoreboard and get some good news about Gamario soon.
33:10
SPEAKER_00: Yep.
33:11
SPEAKER_00: Well all right Donnie all right we'll catch next week and we'll get we had uh I'll tell you about we had uh Josh Hubbard lined up for today to preview the men's basketball season but he had uh uh something come up so he had to reschedule it for first week of December which I know think from listening right now is a long seems like a long long time away but we'll wait and get him on around that time and he can preview how the season has been so far working uh playing with the new guys on the team and previewing the SEC uh conference season coming up so that'll be good next week we hope to have one of the assistant coaches on the men's team on uh to talk about the men's team and then I'm gonna talk to uh Senator Percell tonight and try to get him to kids up to talk by the women so we will have some hoops talk coming up here shortly.
33:55
SPEAKER_02: All right sounds good all right man see y'all later C BW All right