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- 0:00Welcome, Welcome to the Tesla shareholder Meeting. I just want to start up
- 0:04by saying, hot, damn, I love you guys. We have the
- 0:07most awesome shareholder base. I mean, it's just incredible any public company,
- 0:11it's incredible. Wow, We've got a great sort of shareholder of meeting here
- 0:15to recap the achievements of the company and tell you about where we're going.
- 0:19I think it's incredible. I think we're not just opening a new chapter for
- 0:23Tesla, we're starting a new book. So those of you who have been
- 0:27following Tesla closely understand, like you get it, you know, and so
- 0:32like the important thing is you get it. I mean, it's so the
- 0:36Yeah, where things are going. I think it's just going to be absolutely
- 0:39mind blowing. You know, we're obviously making great progress in solving the sustainable
- 0:44energy problem, you know, with electric vehicles, with stationary storage, with
- 0:48solar, and and then terms I think in terms of the value of the
- 0:52company, autonomy is just such a mind blowing thing that I said, you
- 0:57guys understand, but I think most of the world does not yet understand.
- 1:00So and you know, talking to a lot of these sort of big institutional
- 1:04investors I mean they're often in like New York and they don't drive cars.
- 1:08So I'll be like, have you driven our car? Have you tried self
- 1:11driving? You know, the version twelve point three, and they're like,
- 1:15oh no, okay, well you should try it. That would be a
- 1:19good thing to do. And if you just plot the points on the curve
- 1:23of how well autonomy is progressing, and just believe the curve, it's headed
- 1:27towards unsupervisedbule self driving very quickly at an exponential pace. If you just yeah,
- 1:34it's I mean, yeah, So it's really as simple as that.
- 1:38And in fact, i'd invite you to just do it personally, just say
- 1:42okay, with each release, how many miles do you drive before you have
- 1:46to intervene. It's like literally that simple. And with each release you'll see
- 1:51there's a big improvement and it looks like an exponential so and it's very clear
- 1:56that will actually go to the point where it is actually far safer than a
- 2:00person driving the car. So, and I have some insight into, you
- 2:02know, the next releases, because we've got basically for every release that's on
- 2:08the road, we kind of see what the next generation releases and a little
- 2:12bit about the release after that, so we have some insight into where it's
- 2:15going, and it's really amazing, no question whatsoever, that will far exceed
- 2:19human safety. Yeah, no question. So, and I think you know
- 2:23I have mentioned this a bit, like sometimes it's like helpful to sort of
- 2:27reiterate and connect some of the dots because sometimes people wonder, well, how
- 2:30do you go from this big fleet to actually monetizing the fleet in an autonomous
- 2:37situation? And it's actually a combination of like it's like Airbnb and Uber to
- 2:43some degree. So like there'll be some cars that Teesla owns itself. It's
- 2:46kind of like an Uber of fashion. But then for the fleet that is
- 2:50owned by our customers, it will be like an Airbnb thing. You can
- 2:53add or subtract your car to the fleet whenever you want. So you can
- 2:57say, like I'm going away for a week, just one tap on your
- 3:00Tesla app, your car gets added to the fleet and it just makes money
- 3:02for you while you're gone. Yeah, you can say you can add it
- 3:07to the fleet for a few hours, for a few days, for a
- 3:09few weeks. Whenever you want it back, you can say come back,
- 3:12and car will come right back. And I'm highly confident that it will far
- 3:15exceed the value, Like the revenue made by the owner of the car will
- 3:21far exceed the actual monthly payment, and then Test will obviously take a rev
- 3:24share on that, but most of the money will go to the owner of
- 3:27the car. And it's this is actually gonna work. This is what will
- 3:30happen. So, I mean, i'd mark my words. This is simply
- 3:35a matter of time. Now, admittedly I'm a little optimistic sometimes, you
- 3:38know, I'm you know, so I don't have complete lack of self awareness.
- 3:42But if I wasn't optimistic, this wouldn't exist, This factory wouldn't exist,
- 3:46you know. So you know, that's when my brother, who's supports
- 3:50he just got reelected. No, sorry, this is so like a little
- 3:53anecdote when we're kids, is cool. My brother would tell me the wrong
- 3:58time for the bus so that I missed the bus, and then it'd be
- 4:00upset with him, like why did you tell me the bus was going to
- 4:02come earlier than it was, And he's like, well, because otherwise you'd
- 4:05be late for the bus. This is an actual thing that would happen.
- 4:09So I'm I guess I've been sort of pathologically optimistic from from you know,
- 4:14from birth. But that's the reason where this is all the stuff is happening
- 4:16anyway, It's like I gotta be somewhat pathologically optimistic, but I did live
- 4:21in the end. That's important thing. So yeah, and it's it's really
- 4:25just going to be something else. I mentioned this before, but like the
- 4:29for ARC invest, I'd recommend reading the ARC invest analysis. That's the most
- 4:32accurate. There may be, you know, more accurate ones, but the
- 4:34most accurate sort of analysis of the potential of autonomy, the most accurate that
- 4:42I'm aware of is Kathy Wood's ARC invest. So and if I recall correctly,
- 4:46they predicted somewhere over a five trillion dollar valuation for Tellla just based on
- 4:51vehicle autonomy, not counting optimists. Yeah, yeah, I agree with that.
- 4:55So so I think I think just based on vehicle autonomy, we can
- 4:59we can tend act one ten x the value of the company. I believe
- 5:01that is what will happen. Hey, it's just what do you know,
- 5:04it's it's it's four twenty pm. Just notice that, so, you know,
- 5:11So, so I think that's actually I think that's pretty accurate. But
- 5:15there's this It actually gets way crazier when you think about the Optimus robot,
- 5:20which is really a humanoid robot that is intended to you know, be able
- 5:25to do anything you wanted to do, to be you know, it's your
- 5:28you know, your companion. It can be at your house. It can
- 5:30sort of babysit your kids. It could teach them, be a teacher,
- 5:34you know, it can do factory stuff. Like I think that the ultimate
- 5:40ratio of you, say, how many super useful humanoid helper droids do you
- 5:46want? Like who doesn't want to see three po you know, you know,
- 5:48but a C three P O plus R two D two plus you know
- 5:51plus it would be pretty awesome. I think everyone in the world is going
- 5:55to want one, like literally everyone, and then there will be obviously robots
- 5:59in industry making stuff, and so I mean, I think the ratio of
- 6:03humanoid robots to humans will probably at least two to one something like that,
- 6:09one to one for sure, which means like somewhere on the order of ten
- 6:12billion humanoid robots, maybe twenty or thirty. And so then it's like,
- 6:16okay, well, let's say, you know, you kind of make they
- 6:19said the build rate is I think the build rate will be probably something ultimately
- 6:24like a billion a year humanoid robots like actually, and if Tesla just has
- 6:29a temper cent sure of that, and it might be a lot more than
- 6:31and this you know, who make like one hundred million Optimists units a year.
- 6:35I just I mean, for reference, the auto industry is roughly one
- 6:38hundred million vehicles per year, so that you know, sort of similar Bullpark
- 6:43at least within an order of magnitude. And I think we could make one
- 6:46for a cost of maybe at really high scale of about ten thousand dollars.
- 6:50It's smaller, it'd be less expensive than a car. So and I think
- 6:55if you sold it for sell for twenty thousand dollars something this is at large
- 6:58scale volume, Tesla would basically make about a trillion dollars of profit a year
- 7:02from that. So yeah, if the price oarning is multiple is say on
- 7:10a twenty or twenty five something like, that would mean a twenty trillion dollar
- 7:14market cap from Optimis alone, and probably five to ten from autonomous vehicles.
- 7:18So like, I think it's actually it's within the realm of possibility for Tesla
- 7:26to achieve evaluation ten times that of the most valuable company today. So when
- 7:30I say this is like we're starting a new book, I mean it's going
- 7:32to be the best book next level, next, next level, and we
- 7:36need to make sure these robots are nice to us, and you know that's
- 7:40very important. So so anyway that so with that, let me get into
- 7:43the presentation. Blah blah blah blah blah blah. I think it might be
- 7:47worth us just putting a word limit on future shareholder TELA of proposals. It's
- 7:53like you can't have like a novel length, you know, it's kind of
- 7:56like you can't have a whole novel as a TESLA present. So, you
- 8:01know, as you can see, our impact is accelerating. You know,
- 8:03we're starting to make a real noticeable event in corbon emissions. So we're really,
- 8:09you know, making a lot of progress towards achieving our goal of sustainability.
- 8:13And one of the effects of autonomy is actually is going to be an
- 8:18even greater effect on carbon emissions because I suspect that we'll go from passenger cars
- 8:24having about ten hours of usage per week, about an hour and a half
- 8:28per day, to probably a thirty the hours in the week, maybe fifty
- 8:31fifty five hours, which means the same car we'll be used five times.
- 8:37So you need a certain amount of resources to make the car, but it'll
- 8:39have five times the usage. In my opinion, I think that's quite likely,
- 8:45which will be an even more dramatic impact on carbon emissions. So you
- 8:52know, we care a lot about sustainable manufacturing. Our factories are beautiful.
- 8:56Like you walk around the factory, it's actually, you know, a contrary
- 8:58to these like what you're in the press. It's like a good vibe in
- 9:03the factory, like people are smiling and happy. It's like it's nice.
- 9:07So yeah, so I mean we do care. We actually do care a
- 9:09lot. It tells about doing the right thing. And you know we're not
- 9:13going to be perfect, but we do care a lot about doing the right
- 9:15thing. So our vehicles are water efficient, energy efficient, We try whenever
- 9:20possible to use renewables for powering the factory, and you know, do our
- 9:24best to do the right thing. Our batteries are lasting. Look longer,
- 9:26I get too many things, man, Anyway, the batteries the last lasting
- 9:30a lot longer. It's just good. Safety is good in the factory.
- 9:33We're improving the affordability of EBS you know model why it is comparable to a
- 9:37BMW X three, but it's actual cost of ownership on a monthly basis is
- 9:41much lower. We were number one in EBS globally last year. So yeah,
- 9:46so yeah, so let's see, I Congress, that tails the team
- 9:48on making six million vehicles all the time. So, I mean the tail
- 9:54of the fleet is really becoming very substantial. I mean it's gonna be seven
- 9:58million vehicles by the end of this year, over seven million vehicles. So
- 10:01we have and our factory in Fremont is currently the highest volume auto factory in
- 10:07North America. So and we broke the prior production record from when it was
- 10:11new me So it's it's actually pretty wild that there's a we have a giant
- 10:13car factory in the San Francisco Bay area. It's like it's not exactly the
- 10:18cheapest place to have a car factory. It's like that in the Swiss Alps
- 10:20or something, you know, but we still managed to make, you know,
- 10:22great cars at high volume. And that's a testament to the great team
- 10:26we've got in Fremont. So, Congress, the Fremont team, and you
- 10:28know, a lot of people were saying the cyber truck is like fake,
- 10:31it's never going to come out, you know. And now we're shipping a
- 10:35lot of cyber trucks. We had a weekly record of thirteen hundred. And
- 10:39you know, I think with a cyber truck, it really is something special.
- 10:43Like you feel sometimes have like different opinions on the cyber truck, but
- 10:46if you really want to know if there's a if something is cool, if
- 10:48it's a great product, like show it to a kid, okay, like
- 10:54no filter. Okay, the kid's got like no filter, like a five
- 10:56year old, six year old something like that, and or three even three
- 11:00year old and say which car do you like? Cyber truck? So it's
- 11:03like that's how you know, And it's finally something that it just looks like
- 11:09the future. It's and it drives so well, you know, it's comfortable,
- 11:13it's it's just a fantastic product. I think it's out. I think
- 11:16it's our best product, and it's a lot of innovation. It's got a
- 11:20forty eight volt a low voltage system finally instead of twelve vaults, eight hundre
- 11:24voult drive train, the world's biggest castings. You know, it's bulletproof.
- 11:28All the cool things can you know outpull a F three P fifty diesel,
- 11:33which is a very impressive truck, and it can you know, it can
- 11:37do a quarter mile faster than a portion nine to eleven while towing a portion
- 11:41nine eleven, So that's insane. So yeah, I think if you think
- 11:54about it, like, how often do companies make products that move your heart
- 12:01that are really special. It's so rare, and I think this is one
- 12:07of them. So yeah, And we launched the upgraded three, which is
- 12:18actually a fantastic car. I'd recommend trying it out. It's really a great
- 12:24car, and it's only two hundred and sixteen dollars after a gas savings like
- 12:30total cost ownership, it's basically two hundred and something dollars when compared to a
- 12:35gasoline car, some of the gasoline cars, so it's really a great deal
- 12:41and a fun car. And the performance of wealthy performance is well it's like
- 12:46you know, fasting portion nine eleven. It's just a great car. So
- 12:54yeah. So yeah, And of course one of Way became the best selling
- 13:00globally, and this is something that we predicted, so you know, I
- 13:03think I said in like twenty twenty two it would well away would be the
- 13:07biggest car in the world by dollar volume sales, and that twenty twenty three
- 13:11it would be the biggest in unit volume, and it was, and again
- 13:16this year it will be the best selling car on Earth. So and we
- 13:22were We've got the Tesla Semi. You know, we're in low volume production
- 13:26of the Tesla Semi. And just last week I proved the plans for volume
- 13:30production of the Tesla Semi. So we're gonna make a lot of semi trucks.
- 13:46We're going to start off with. Yeah, it's something I think it'll
- 13:50actually move the needle financially. It's not like it's not a small thing.
- 13:54And the thing about like commercial vehicles is that companies that use them are super
- 13:58objective. It's not like it's actually I mean, obviously we're going to make
- 14:03it have cool style and be an awesome car. But for commercial vehicles,
- 14:07the companies that make the buying decisions, they just look at it and say,
- 14:11like, what are the numbers, Like, is this costs less to
- 14:15transport or it costs more to transport than say a diesel truck. And the
- 14:18thing is that the economics are much better than a diesel truck. It's kind
- 14:22of basically no brainer. If you're a transport company, you don't use an
- 14:26electric the test electric semi, you're just losing money. Why would you do
- 14:31that? Do you not like money? Okay, but if you do like
- 14:37money, then I recommend using the Tesla semi. And it's so I think
- 14:50this is really going to actually sell it a scale that to you will be
- 14:54surprised at and we'll actually move the needle financially and do a lot of good
- 14:58And also for CO two and sustainability because semis are driven all the time and
- 15:03actually even at much smaller numbers, they have a very big effect on total
- 15:09carbon emission solved. So obviously we've got some new products that we're working on
- 15:18under the covers, and I think these are I think is going to be
- 15:22pretty special. So you know, some of them, I think people maybe
- 15:26at first may think, oh, it's not going to be that amazing,
- 15:31but just wait, it will be. Our supercharge network is continuing to grow.
- 15:35You know, rumors of the death or supercharger are greatly exaggerated. We
- 15:39are in fact continuing to grow the supercharge network significantly. In fact, this
- 15:45year I think we will put more, deploy more superchargers this year that are
- 15:50actually working than the rest of industry combined, just FI. So now we
- 16:00are going to be more careful about, like you know, the capital efficiency
- 16:04of where we deploy supercharges, but for sure any place that has congestion,
- 16:08any sort of missing parts of the map that we're missing, we're going to
- 16:12put the supercharges there. So even for the remainder of the year, we
- 16:15expect to spend about half a billion dollars on as charge of deployment, so
- 16:21it's very significant and well spent half a million, so this is it's a
- 16:25lot so and we're this is actually not showing a bunch of new markets that
- 16:30we'll be opening up later this year and next. So we're obviously we want
- 16:34Tesla to be worldwide, and this is a lot of countries that we you
- 16:40know, have zero to very few Tesla's and we obviously we want Tesla everywhere.
- 16:45So there are a lot of new markets that we're going to open up
- 16:48later this year and next. We're also opening the supercharge of supercharges to other
- 16:53companies with the that's the adapter to the old somewhat clunky connector. But our
- 17:02goal is to be helpful to other car companies, So any other car companies
- 17:06that are going electric, we we do want to be helpful to them with
- 17:10our supercharge network. So we're providing them with adapters and enabling them to have
- 17:15access to the taels of supercharging network because we think it's better to do that
- 17:19than to create a world garden that inhibits ev growth hopes. There's a bit
- 17:33of latency, and we're also innovating a lot in battery production with the forty
- 17:37six eighty that's built right here, and it is it's a hard problem,
- 17:42you know, like there are entire companies that just make battery cells. That's
- 17:47all they do. But we're making good progress, Like all the cyber trucks
- 17:51that you see use the tells of forty six eighty cell and we have a
- 17:55clear path to the forty six eighty being we think probably the most competitive cell
- 18:00from it's from a manufacturing efficiency standpoint, and so it's but it is a
- 18:07hard problem. I have to say, there's quite a lot of brain damage
- 18:10required to be good at cell manufacturing. It's like a brain damage high.
- 18:14But I think it does give Tesla resilience in the face of if there are
- 18:18changes in the I don't know geopolitical situation somehow, but it's like it's good
- 18:23to have something in the independence in cell manufacturing. So yeah, we're making
- 18:30study progress. And we also have the cathode refinery, which you can see
- 18:33behind the main factory, so you can sort of see it in the picture
- 18:37there that's a cathode refinery. And then we've got the lithium refinery in South
- 18:41Texas, and so we're just making sure we've kind of got the piece of
- 18:45the puzzle and the I mean, if you would to look at sort of
- 18:51a video of how Tesla does say cathode and lithium refining and how the rest
- 18:56of industry does it, it's night and day. I mean, you can
- 18:59sort of eat off the or in the Tesla refinery, and I would not
- 19:02recommend doing so in the others. So you know, it's really we're definitely
- 19:06going very vertical here. But I think that this is a it's a wise
- 19:10investment that will pay off more than people realize. So I don't think this
- 19:30thing is working. So this year we're also on track to complete a massive
- 19:36number of energy deployments, so that is a gigantic increase in deployment capability.
- 19:41So okay, we're really we seem to be tracking to sort of a two
- 19:47to three hundred percent year of a year growth and energy storage deployment and stationary
- 19:52pack so it's giant and the limiting factor really is being able to build more
- 19:59megapacks and build more power walls. So we're ramping up production of the power
- 20:03wall three, which is really a game changer for at the personal level.
- 20:07The power wall three, it usually takes about three iterations of any given technology
- 20:12to to really for it to be something where it's like, Okay, now
- 20:17we're really hitting the sweet spot. So power Wall three is like an epic
- 20:19product. The megapack is also it's even it's i'd call it sort of iteration
- 20:26two of the Megapac is also an epic product. With with the Megapac three,
- 20:32which is probably a couple of years away, will we'll start actually absorbing
- 20:37more and more of the substation of the power of the sort of power electronics.
- 20:41So because I sort of think you want to get to the point with
- 20:45the megapac where you can literally just take the high voltage power lines and plug
- 20:48them in just there's no substation, we just plug them in just drop them
- 20:52down and drop it down and plug it in. That's and networks, which
- 20:57is like mind blowing for the utility industry by the way, like they're like,
- 21:03what, yeah, just plug the wires in and it'll work for very
- 21:08high voltage. So that I think is actually going to be a major So
- 21:12this is this great, excellent work by the energy storage team. Services and
- 21:18other are also looking good. So we're actually now making money on the services
- 21:22and other stuff. So this is kind of a big deal, right,
- 21:26yeah, so let's see. Yeah, and Tesla's obviously way more than a
- 21:30car company. You know, we do a lot of software Tesla you know
- 21:36about I don't know, roughly half the or a very huge percentage of the
- 21:41engineering we do is actually software engineering. So Tesla's i'd say as much as
- 21:45software company as it is a hardware company. This is a very big deal
- 21:48because car companies are not software companies normally, so this matters a lot.
- 21:53So things like our order bit of software for energy storage, all of the
- 21:56software that controls the cars, the megapacks, power walls of the solar obviously
- 22:03for AI and and full self driving, a big deal, insurance service and
- 22:07collision. Tesla also writes a lot of software internally that that helps that like
- 22:14we call like the Tesla operating system internally that is head and shoulders above what
- 22:18any other company has. I think, probably better than any Fortune five hundred
- 22:22company. The Tesla internal software is is just way better. So it's yeah,
- 22:29it's just far more than what people normally think of as a car company.
- 22:33And Tesla's also the leader in a real world AI, so there's really
- 22:40this is a big deal. Like Tesla is ahead of Google matter, you
- 22:45know, opening anyone on real world software actually looking taking in video and making
- 22:49decisions based on video. No one can. No one is even close.
- 22:55And it's getting better, I say, with each passing month, if not
- 22:59each passing week. Soya. And it's also worth noting that Tela is actually
- 23:04pretty good at chip design. So the AI inference chip that's that was designed
- 23:10by Tela, that's in cars. We had sort of our hardware three AI
- 23:14inference cars made you over the past year have the hardware four. We've just
- 23:18completed design on hardware five, which we're now calling AI five because it's really
- 23:25is it's there's still actually is not a chip or from and I have a
- 23:30lot of respect from a video any company that we would prefer to put in
- 23:33our car that is better than what we have in the car. So so
- 23:45we started from scratch in chip design just says we started from scratch in AI
- 23:52software and have the best real world AI software and the and the best AI
- 23:56infernence chip in the world from nothing. So this is you know, a
- 24:03big deal, and the capability of the chips in the car is dramatic.
- 24:11Like I mean, right now all the cars are actually training, like we
- 24:15have Hardware four run Hardware three in emulation mode. So we'll continue to make
- 24:21significant progress in hardware three, but later this year we'll actually bifurcate continue working
- 24:25on hardware three, training on hardware three, but then do separate training on
- 24:33hardware four. That'll be the sort of training cluster that we're building at the
- 24:36south side of the gigafactory, and that'll be dedicated hardware for video and inference.
- 24:42And you know, so that the hardware four has cameras that have about
- 24:48four or five times better resolution, and depending on how you count the sort
- 24:53of harderfor it's about anywhere from three to eight times better than hardware three.
- 25:00But everything you're seeing thus far is just hardware three, and we still have
- 25:03a long way to go before we get we reach the limits of hardware three.
- 25:07So hardware three I think we'll still we'll do amazing things. But hardware
- 25:10four, I think we'll probably do about five times better. Then Hardware five,
- 25:14which comes out in about eighteen months or so, is ten times more
- 25:18capable than hardware full. It's like a if you know, in video hardware,
- 25:23it's sort of a B two hundred class computer, so you know,
- 25:27that's like this. So what we'll just progressively do is improve how many nines
- 25:33of reliability the car gets, and then of course that will go into optimists
- 25:38as well. So the same chip we'll go into you know, hardware full,
- 25:42we'll go into opto is an optimist. AI five, which you're switching
- 25:47from hardware five to a F five will be an optimist and in all cars
- 25:51in about eighteen months. And it's really just a staggering amount of compute,
- 25:55and it's very power efficient compute. So it's got to be because if you're
- 25:59in an oval application like a humanoid robot or a car, you can't just
- 26:03be socking down ten kilowatts, you know, like you can in a data
- 26:07center, So you've got to be very power efficient. So the you know,
- 26:11sort of hardware three and four are only a few hundred watts. Yeah,
- 26:15yeah, it's hard hardware five will be able to go probably up to
- 26:26about seven or eight hundred watts, but it'll power fluctuate contingent upon the complexity
- 26:32of the scene that it is in. So if it is in a parking
- 26:36lot, station areas, like, you know, you know, you don't
- 26:38have to think very much, just like a person like if you're in a
- 26:41complicated traffic scenario, you've got to think a lot more than if you're just
- 26:45cruising long, you know, on an empty road. But something that I
- 26:48think is potentially interesting down the road is like, at some point, the
- 26:52Tesla fleet I think will probably be you know, over one hundred million vehicles,
- 26:57and if each vehicle has a killer watt of efficient, I think there's
- 27:04a there's I think there's a sort of an Amazon Web Services AWS type opportunity
- 27:11because if you've got one hundred million vehicles with a killowatt of efficients in furnace
- 27:15compute, you've got one hundred gigawatts of compute, like one hundred gigawatts of
- 27:22computers a lot, and it's distributed all over the world. So even so
- 27:26when the car is not in autonomous mode, which I think probably is you
- 27:30know, doing ROBOTAXI work maybe fifty sixty hours a week, but about one
- 27:37hundred hours a week it's not it's probably stationary. So so there's one hundred
- 27:42hours of one hundred gigawatts of infernce compute, which I think we should use.
- 27:48Why not. You know, when people looked at Amazon, which started
- 27:52out obviously as an online bookseller, and it's you know, has grown to
- 27:56be and then they and then Amazon Web Services, like, well, they
- 28:00got all these computers that only really see peak usage sometimes, but what are
- 28:07they going to do when it's not peak usage? And sometimes Amazon servers are
- 28:11down at like ten percent. So that's when they said, well, let's
- 28:12do Amazon Web Services. And then Amazon Web Services became more valuable than the
- 28:18entire rest of Amazon. And anyway, I think there's there's some kind of
- 28:22opportunity there that's pretty significant for Tesla down the road. You know, again
- 28:26that's really nobody's really factoring that in, but I think that that actually will
- 28:30be quite significant. But we also are no longer compute constrained for training,
- 28:34So I check in with the team, is like, is there anything we
- 28:38could do to improve the pace of progress with respected training and inference? Currently
- 28:42that is not the limiting factor. In fact, that the limiting factor right
- 28:45now is that the amount of miles between interventions is so long that it takes
- 28:52quite a while to figure out which version is better than the other version because
- 28:56that none of them are requiring any interventions. So it's like, you know,
- 29:02if he's not getting to like thousands of miles between interventions or like ten
- 29:04thousand miles to get an intervention, then like, well, the average person
- 29:08only drives about ten thousand miles in a year, and if it's in an
- 29:14urban environment and the average speed is twenty miles an hour, I mean,
- 29:18so our professional test drivers get pretty bored. Frankly, you know, they're
- 29:22like, Okay, I drove all week and there was no intervention, Like
- 29:26the highlight of the week would be like, yes, an intervention. Finally,
- 29:30it's like getting to that point. So this is where actually having a
- 29:37giant fleet is extremely important because we can deploy a new FST model and run
- 29:41it in shadow mode and see how well it performs relative you know compare how
- 29:48the human drives the car versus the new self driving build and then analyze that
- 29:53delta in shadow mode like the shadow knows or doesn't know, does the case
- 29:57maybe, and then be able to assess by getting billions of miles very quickly
- 30:03with the giant fleet like that. Basically, that data engine is incredibly helpful.
- 30:08Like I actually, it's not possible to solve the self driving problem without
- 30:14having millions of vehicles on the road. So that's actually the is like figuring
- 30:19out clever ways to test which how good the next build FSD build is actually
- 30:26the limiting factor right now. And then, of course, like I said,
- 30:29we are building another training data center right here, which will be dedicated
- 30:33to hardware for training, So we'll bifurcate hardware three and hardware four training later
- 30:38this year. We'll keep improving hardware three, but we're gonna uncork the full
- 30:42capability of hardware four as well. So yeah, I think most people here
- 30:56have tried out version twelve. I'd say, like sort of unsupervised full self
- 31:03driving, full self driving version twelve, So we are actually just keeping the
- 31:07version arbitrarily at twelve and then like calling a twelve point four, twelve point
- 31:11three, twelve point four to twelve point five, but it's actually really like
- 31:15version thirteen, version fourteen. But anyway, this is an arbitrary designation.
- 31:19So twelve point four is actually like a whole different version than twelve point three,
- 31:26and twelve point five is a whole different version twelve point four. So
- 31:30you'll see really giant improvements I think sometimes factor of ten improvements between successive versions.
- 31:38And then, as I mentioned, the way it'll work for the existing
- 31:41fleet is be able to add us subtract your car to the fleets as you'd
- 31:45like, and there will also be Tesla owned cars, so it'll be a
- 31:48combination of like Uber plus Airbnb. But it'll be pretty wild that there'll be
- 31:55a software update and then the whole fleet suddenly becomes accessible. It's like suddenly
- 31:59you've got seven million, ten million cars that can ultimately tens of millions of
- 32:02cars that can do autonomous driving, and instead of being used ten hours a
- 32:07week, can be used fifty or sixty hours a week. So it's pretty
- 32:23well to just be in Palo Alta with a bunch of cubes and then a
- 32:29humanoid robot just walks past. We've made a massive amount of progress with Optimists
- 32:32in a short period of time, from someone pretending to be a robot dancing
- 32:37in a suit to a pretty hodgepodgy robot to a robot that is actually doing
- 32:42useful tasks in the factory today. So we have two Optimus robots in our
- 32:45Fremont factory that are doing basically this task, which is taking cells off the
- 32:52end of the line and placing them in a shipping container. And yeah,
- 32:57we actually have quite a few of these cruising around our office in pal Alto.
- 33:00So there's and I think we've got one major hardware revision which should be
- 33:08done by end of this year or early next before and then we'll move into
- 33:13a limited production next year of Optimists, limited production for use in our factories
- 33:17where we'll test out the product kind of you know, you know, as
- 33:22I say, sort of either and dog food or whatever the electronic equivalent that
- 33:25is. So, but I think like next year, my prediction is next
- 33:31year we'll have over over one thousand, maybe a few thousand Optimus robots working
- 33:37at Tesla, and and things are going to scale up very rapidly from there,
- 33:43so well iron out the bugs. It'll like the degree of autonomy will
- 33:49be radically better. You'll just literally be able to talk to it and say,
- 33:52please do this task, or I'm going to show you something. Now
- 33:55do that the thing that I am showing you, and you know, get
- 33:59to the point where it can watch a video of something like a person and
- 34:02then learn just by looking at that video and do that task. So yeah,
- 34:07so really it's going to be quite something, and I'm confident of the
- 34:12prediction that there will be more, like the ratio of humanoid robots to humans
- 34:17will be greater than one to one, so that there'll be, you know,
- 34:21more than ten billion humanoid robots in the world, probably twenty or more,
- 34:25and Tella is going to be by far the leader in that. You're
- 34:30seeing a lot of robot startups, but I think it's actually very challenging to
- 34:34do Optimists as a robots startup because what we found to make Optimists work,
- 34:40We've had to design every design from first principles from scratch. Every part of
- 34:46the robot, so the motor, the gearbox, the power, electronics,
- 34:51the communications system, everything had to be done from scratch. We found that
- 34:55there's basically nothing, there's no supply chain. So even though there are many
- 35:00electric motors made in the world, there's no supply chain for the types of
- 35:05motors and sensors and gearboxes that are needed for humanoid robot. I mean,
- 35:10what you're saying here is our current generation hand and arm, but actually which
- 35:15has eleven degrees of freedom, our next generation has twenty two degrees of freedom.
- 35:20It will be able to play the piano. So it's really like wow.
- 35:24Now, of course, like I said, we need to make sure
- 35:27we don't have the terminator scenario. That's very important. So safety of the
- 35:31humanoid drobot it will be very important. But because it requires so much ground
- 35:38up design, designing every motor, gearbox, sensor, par electronics from scratch,
- 35:43it's very hard for a startup to if not impossible for a startup to
- 35:45replicate that. But it tes that we have the world's best electrical engineering.
- 35:51I think we've got the world's best mechanical engineering for gearboxes and for the electric
- 35:55motors. Par electronics. You know, we have the resources to do that.
- 36:00It applies quite well. And then you also have to have the brain.
- 36:05You need the you need a power efficient inference computer, which we've got
- 36:09for the car, and we'll be using an optimist, you need AI real
- 36:14you need to be the best in real world AI, and Tela's the best
- 36:16in real world AI, So you need all of these. You need a
- 36:20very strong hand of cards in order to make a compelling robot. And then
- 36:24you also need to be very good at scale manufacturing. So in order to
- 36:29have the robot not cost like hundreds of thousands of dollars, in order to
- 36:32make it cost like ten or twenty thousand dollars, you actually need to design
- 36:37for manufacturing and be very good at manufacturing. And what in my experience,
- 36:43prototypes are easy compared to volume manufacturing, prototypes are easy. Production is hard,
- 36:47relatively speaking. So Tela has the production capability, it has the engineering
- 36:52capability, and it has the AI hardware and software capability. And even the
- 36:59most optimistic estimates that I've seen for optimists, the optimist I think under account
- 37:07the magnitude of what this robot will be able to do. You know,
- 37:09as I said at the beginning of the presentation, you know, I agree
- 37:14with the ark and Best analysis that autonomous transport is called sort of a five
- 37:20to seven trillion dollar market cap situation. Optimists, I think is a twenty
- 37:25five literally twenty five trillion dollar market cap situation, the