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- 0:00Speaker 1: Every single vote's going to count. Listen to me.
- 0:02Speaker 2: Listen.
- 0:03Speaker 3: Every single vote, they're counting on Republicans, not voting in
- 0:06Speaker 3: the midterm. They're trying to dissuade you from doing so
- 0:09Speaker 3: with false narratives.
- 0:10Speaker 1: Don't buy it.
- 0:11Speaker 3: Every single vote's going to count. Some of these races
- 0:13Speaker 3: are going to come down to dozens of votes. But
- 0:15Speaker 3: I'm telling you, when we say every vote counts, we
- 0:17Speaker 3: mean every vote counts, especially in a midterm.
- 0:20Speaker 4: Well, with the midterm elections just over two weeks away,
- 0:23Speaker 4: House Speaker Mike Johnson is warning Republicans that control of
- 0:26Speaker 4: Congress could come down to just a handful of votes.
- 0:30Speaker 4: But new polling suggests voters are increasingly dissatisfied with the
- 0:33Speaker 4: direction of the country. raising questions about whether Republicans can
- 0:37Speaker 4: hold their congressional majorities. We'll examine the political landscape with
- 0:41Speaker 4: White House reporter Christian Datok, and later, Speaker Johnson joins
- 0:45Speaker 4: us from the campaign trail. Meanwhile, growing threats overseas are
- 0:49Speaker 4: raising new questions about America's national security.
- 0:52Speaker 5: Have you made a decision on flagging the Houthis?
- 0:55Speaker 6: They're behaving very badly. What are you going to do
- 0:58Speaker 6: about that?
- 0:58Speaker 7: I mean, if I told you I made a decision,
- 1:00Speaker 7: that wouldn't have happened.
- 1:02Speaker 6: The Houthis have acted very badly.
- 1:04Speaker 4: As President Trump considers military action against the Iranian-backed Houthis,
- 1:09Speaker 4: reports indicate the terrorist group is acquiring Chinese technology to
- 1:13Speaker 4: expand its ballistic missile capability. And at the same time,
- 1:17Speaker 4: the administration's decision to ease restrictions on Russian diesel exports
- 1:21Speaker 4: is raising concerns that the move could provide Moscow with
- 1:24Speaker 4: additional resources to continue its war against Ukraine. Are Russia, China,
- 1:29Speaker 4: and Iran increasingly coordinating their efforts to challenge the United
- 1:33Speaker 4: States and its allies?
- 1:35Speaker 6: Retired Rear Admiral Mark Montgomery.
- 1:38Speaker 4: Joins us to examine these emerging threats and what they
- 1:41Speaker 4: mean for America's national security. And here at home, a
- 1:45Speaker 4: new federal report raising troubling questions about whether some of
- 1:48Speaker 4: America's largest banks discriminated against customers because of their religious
- 1:53Speaker 4: and political beliefs.
- 1:54Speaker 8: I've been raising this claim since 2022 when it happened
- 1:58Speaker 8: to us. When I went public with the claim, I
- 2:02Speaker 8: had over a dozen different groups, generally conservative groups, religiously
- 2:07Speaker 8: affiliated groups that came and said this had happened to
- 2:10Speaker 8: them as well. But I think this report makes it
- 2:14Speaker 8: clear there was a practice that was going on here.
- 2:16Speaker 4: I was former ambassador-at-large for International Religious Freedom, Sam Brownback.
- 2:21Speaker 4: The Office of the Comptroller of the Currency found that
- 2:23Speaker 4: nine major banks maintained policies restricting access to financial services.
- 2:28Speaker 6: Based on customers' beliefs and otherwise lawful activities.
- 2:32Speaker 4: The report also identified the Southern Poverty Law Center as
- 2:35Speaker 4: a source banks relied upon in evaluating certain organizations. We'll
- 2:39Speaker 4: discuss the findings with Treasury Department official Dr. David Zorvos,
- 2:44Speaker 4: including the role of government regulators and what must be
- 2:48Speaker 4: done to prevent religious and political discrimination in banking. Welcome
- 2:53Speaker 4: to This Week on Capitol Hill, your insider's guide to
- 2:56Speaker 4: the story shaping Washington and the world.
- 2:58Speaker 6: I'm your host, Tony Perkins.
- 3:01Speaker 5: Today's edition of This Week on Capitol Hill is being
- 3:04Speaker 5: presented by AARP.
- 3:11Speaker 4: On Thursday, President Trump announced the Pentagon will no longer
- 3:14Speaker 4: live stream the execution of Fort Hood terrorist shooter Nidal Hassan.
- 3:21Speaker 6: That is scheduled for December the 3rd.
- 3:23Speaker 4: Now, this reversal followed concerns the images could fuel future
- 3:27Speaker 4: terrorist attacks. Joining us now to discuss this and more
- 3:30Speaker 4: is Christian Datok, White House reporter for The Washington Examiner. Christian,
- 3:34Speaker 4: welcome back to This Week on Capitol Hill.
- 3:36Speaker 6: Thanks for joining us.
- 3:38Speaker 1: Anytime, Tony.
- 3:38Speaker 6: Thanks for having me back.
- 3:39Speaker 4: All right, so let's kind of walk through the controversy
- 3:45Speaker 4: over this original decision that the president recently reversed.
- 3:50Speaker 7: Sure.
- 3:50Speaker 6: Well, this has been brewing for a couple of weeks now.
- 3:52Speaker 7: We do know that Hassan, who was convicted back in 2013,
- 3:56Speaker 7: was scheduled to be executed in early December. We had
- 4:00Speaker 7: that information a few weeks ago, really. And then Secretary
- 4:04Speaker 7: Pete Hegseth came out and alerted the press during a
- 4:07Speaker 7: junket that the White House, the administration, planned to live
- 4:12Speaker 7: stream that event as a means of communicating the terrible
- 4:17Speaker 7: consequences for terrorist actions to any would-be lone wolfs or
- 4:21Speaker 7: group actors, not only here in the United States, but
- 4:23Speaker 7: around the world as well. And I'm not going to lie,
- 4:27Speaker 7: it was met by bipartisan pushback, namely about those items
- 4:32Speaker 7: that you had talked about. Might Hassan be viewed as
- 4:35Speaker 7: a martyr? Could this actually endanger U.S. lives by prompting
- 4:40Speaker 7: more terrorist acts rather than having the desired result Pete
- 4:45Speaker 7: Hegseth communicated to the press. And, you know, President Trump
- 4:48Speaker 7: stood by the war secretary initially. He said he backed
- 4:52Speaker 7: the idea. But Vice President Vance himself was the first
- 4:56Speaker 7: high ranking administration official to break from that line.
- 5:00Speaker 1: Just a little bit.
- 5:01Speaker 7: He said he thought the execution was justified, but that
- 5:04Speaker 7: as a devout Catholic, he did not plan on watching
- 5:08Speaker 7: the execution because it did not align with his religious beliefs.
- 5:12Speaker 7: A celebration of death, I believe, is the term that
- 5:15Speaker 7: he used. And then on Thursday, President Trump announced that
- 5:19Speaker 7: he would no longer be live streaming the execution, but
- 5:22Speaker 7: it still would go as planned on that scheduled December
- 5:26Speaker 7: 3rd date.
- 5:28Speaker 6: Yeah, it was interesting.
- 5:29Speaker 4: It was a bipartisan reaction from folks on both sides
- 5:33Speaker 4: of the ideological aisle, as well as the political aisle,
- 5:37Speaker 4: having some reservations and hesitations about that. I'm glad the
- 5:40Speaker 4: president made the decision he did.
- 5:42Speaker 6: Let's switch to the midterm elections.
- 5:44Speaker 4: Just a few short weeks away, folks will be going
- 5:47Speaker 4: to the polls.
- 5:48Speaker 6: In fact, all across the country, people are early voting
- 5:51Speaker 6: right now.
- 5:52Speaker 4: A recent AP Nordic poll finds that a majority of
- 5:56Speaker 4: voters I've actually lost confidence in President Trump and what
- 5:59Speaker 4: major change this November.
- 6:01Speaker 6: Do you buy it?
- 6:04Speaker 1: Yes and no.
- 6:05Speaker 7: I think the top lines here are not surprising. Eight
- 6:08Speaker 7: in 10 voters are losing confidence in the president and
- 6:12Speaker 7: the economy, inflation, prices, the war in Iran. Those are
- 6:16Speaker 7: the issues that voters care most about. heading into November.
- 6:20Speaker 7: But I think ultimately, this isn't necessarily a complete, you know,
- 6:26Speaker 7: refutation of the Trump agenda, but it is sort of
- 6:29Speaker 7: discontent with a number of high-ranking Trump administration officials. Let's
- 6:34Speaker 7: talk about Kimberly Guilfoyle for a second, the former ambassador
- 6:38Speaker 7: to Greece, who the public believe simply aren't serving the
- 6:42Speaker 7: American electorate's best interests. They believe some of these officials, like, again,
- 6:47Speaker 7: I'll point to another former cabinet secretary, Christine Ohm, they
- 6:51Speaker 7: are in their positions of power to improve their own
- 6:54Speaker 7: personal standings. It's a difficult line for the Trump administration,
- 6:58Speaker 7: President Trump, Vice President Vance, and senior congressional Republican leadership
- 7:02Speaker 7: to walk because they are trying to tell voters, look,
- 7:05Speaker 7: stick with us. Our economic platform is correct. We need
- 7:09Speaker 7: a little bit more time. But it's hard to argue
- 7:11Speaker 7: those facts when we have these damning set of reports
- 7:15Speaker 7: suggesting that certain members of the Trump administration really aren't
- 7:19Speaker 7: in these jobs for the right reasons.
- 7:21Speaker 4: Let's put a pin in that. I want to come
- 7:23Speaker 4: back to that. But I want to stick with the
- 7:24Speaker 4: polls for just a moment. Increasingly, do you find that
- 7:29Speaker 4: some voters are reluctant, especially conservative Republican voters, are reluctant
- 7:34Speaker 4: to actually respond to pollsters?
- 7:37Speaker 7: Yeah, that's why I said yes and no when you asked,
- 7:40Speaker 7: am I buying those findings? Because look, historically, Republicans are
- 7:45Speaker 7: certainly less willing to interact with pollsters than their Democratic counterparts.
- 7:52Speaker 7: And I think heading into this election where, again, let's
- 7:54Speaker 7: be honest, all of the signs are bad for Republicans.
- 7:58Speaker 7: The Republican electorate might be disillusioned, they might be down,
- 8:03Speaker 7: but many of them are especially in these states, which
- 8:06Speaker 7: are talked about in the media right now, Kansas, Iowa, Texas,
- 8:11Speaker 7: reliably red states that Democrats think they have a very
- 8:14Speaker 7: real chance of flipping. Most of them are triple Trump
- 8:17Speaker 7: voters is the term that we at the Washington Examiner
- 8:20Speaker 7: have been using. We believe many of them, even if
- 8:23Speaker 7: they aren't responding to polls, might just revert to the
- 8:26Speaker 7: mean and vote Republican come November 3rd, no matter what.
- 8:31Speaker 6: But, you know, we had the.
- 8:32Speaker 7: Final FEC fundraising drops on Thursday night and And ultimately,
- 8:38Speaker 7: the numbers are all blue. James Tallarico is leading the pack.
- 8:43Speaker 7: He outraised Ken Paxton, something like 25 X. It's, it's
- 8:48Speaker 7: really astounding numbers. We've never seen these types of individual
- 8:51Speaker 7: donations coming in for democratic candidates. So I want to
- 8:56Speaker 7: talk about the 2022 midterms for a second, because everyone
- 8:59Speaker 7: thought there would be a huge red wave. Republicans did
- 9:02Speaker 7: take over majorities, but the margins weren't nearly as wide
- 9:06Speaker 7: as we thought they might be. I do think at
- 9:08Speaker 7: least in the house that, Democrats will certainly take back
- 9:11Speaker 7: that majority, but the margins, again, might not be as
- 9:14Speaker 7: wide as the polling is suggesting right now.
- 9:16Speaker 6: All right.
- 9:17Speaker 4: Very quickly, this week, the Office of the Comptroller of
- 9:20Speaker 4: the Currency released a report on major financial institutions discriminating
- 9:24Speaker 4: against conservatives and religious organizations.
- 9:27Speaker 6: This was stunning.
- 9:30Speaker 7: This was a fairly surprising report, Tony, and we had
- 9:33Speaker 7: heard whispers about it coming for a while now. And
- 9:38Speaker 7: ultimately what it found is that from 2021 until 2025,
- 9:42Speaker 7: major banks, Wells Fargo and Bank of America in particular,
- 9:46Speaker 7: specifically debunked certain right-leaning activism groups. It wasn't necessarily because
- 9:52Speaker 7: of the interests that those groups were looking at, but
- 9:55Speaker 7: they feared political blowback from Congress or liberal activists. groups
- 10:01Speaker 7: if they were to platform quote-unquote MAGA organizations. And I'm
- 10:06Speaker 7: curious to see what will come of this, because ultimately,
- 10:09Speaker 7: the OCC really is a bipartisan, independent office within the
- 10:14Speaker 7: federal government. Will they take action to make sure this
- 10:16Speaker 7: type of political discrimination doesn't happen forever? for activist groups
- 10:21Speaker 7: or politically aligned organizations on both sides of the aisle,
- 10:25Speaker 7: because ultimately this is a pendulum type situation. If it
- 10:28Speaker 7: happens to one side, I would expect it to happen
- 10:30Speaker 7: to another side down the road. There's really no place
- 10:36Speaker 7: for this type of behavior when it comes from our
- 10:38Speaker 7: financial institutions.
- 10:40Speaker 4: Kristen, thanks so much for joining us. We are going
- 10:43Speaker 4: to watch that one very closely because I think that's
- 10:46Speaker 4: a very big deal.
- 10:46Speaker 6: All right, take care. We'll talk to you soon.
- 10:49Speaker 7: Take care, Tony.
- 10:50Speaker 4: All right, folks, stick with us because we're going to
- 10:52Speaker 4: dive a little bit deeper into that issue in just
- 10:55Speaker 4: a moment.
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- 11:35Speaker 4: Welcome back to This Week on Capitol Hill. I'm your host,
- 11:37Speaker 4: Tony Perkins. As we were just talking about polls and voting,
- 11:41Speaker 4: I want to remind you we're just days away from
- 11:43Speaker 4: the midterm election, and I do hope you're planning to vote.
- 11:47Speaker 4: If you would like a personalized voter guide to help you,
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- 11:57Speaker 4: to 67742 and I will send you a link. Well,
- 12:00Speaker 4: on Wednesday, the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency
- 12:03Speaker 4: released a report on debanking by major banks during the
- 12:07Speaker 4: Biden administration. Now, the review found that financial institutions closed
- 12:12Speaker 4: accounts and refused credit in ways that targeted conservative and
- 12:18Speaker 4: religious and pro-life organizations. Joining us now to discuss this
- 12:22Speaker 4: is Dr. David Zervos, Counselor in the Office of the
- 12:26Speaker 4: Secretary of the Treasury.
- 12:28Speaker 5: Dr.
- 12:28Speaker 6: Zervos, welcome to This Week on Capitol Hill. Thank you
- 12:30Speaker 6: for joining us.
- 12:32Speaker 1: Thank you for having me, Tony.
- 12:34Speaker 4: So the Trump administration ordered the OCC's debanking review.
- 12:39Speaker 6: Tell us what you found.
- 12:42Speaker 5: Well, the report suggests after looking at, I believe, over
- 12:45Speaker 5: 100,000 complaints and 50,000 records at.
- 12:51Speaker 1: Almost two-thirds of the U.S. banking system.
- 12:54Speaker 5: They found in particular that nine banks engaged in the
- 12:59Speaker 5: activity that you described in your opening monologue, which is
- 13:03Speaker 5: targeting religious groups, targeting conservative groups, targeting groups that were
- 13:08Speaker 5: associated with the Trump administration, targeting those that were involved
- 13:13Speaker 5: in the firearms business. So it went further and further
- 13:18Speaker 5: and further. And a lot of the targeting, Tony, was.
- 13:22Speaker 5: Done under the veil of ESG or DEI or BLM
- 13:28Speaker 5: or one of those, you know, acronyms that had been
- 13:31Speaker 5: so aggressively pushed during the Biden administration against their foes.
- 13:40Speaker 5: And so this is, as he said, a bombshell reporter. Dr.
- 13:44Speaker 4: Verbos, one of the catch-all categories that the banks used
- 13:48Speaker 4: that we saw in the report was reputational risk. which
- 13:51Speaker 4: is something that the regulators look at in these banks
- 13:56Speaker 4: in terms of, you know, doing things that are questionable
- 14:00Speaker 4: and that would tarnish their image or reputation. So is
- 14:04Speaker 4: there any evidence to suggest that the regulators during the
- 14:08Speaker 4: Biden era actually used that category to pressure these institutions?
- 14:13Speaker 5: I think that was used consistently and the reputation that
- 14:17Speaker 5: they were nervous about.
- 14:19Speaker 1: Was something that would cause them to.
- 14:23Speaker 5: Be under a microscope by the folks in the Biden administration.
- 14:28Speaker 5: So it really was activities that might raise red flags
- 14:33Speaker 5: for those that were in power during that period. And again,
- 14:36Speaker 5: those had a lot to do with things related to
- 14:39Speaker 5: climate or diversity, equity, and inclusion and the like. So
- 14:43Speaker 5: That gave them a blanket to really just sweep up
- 14:47Speaker 5: a lot of folks that had enormous trouble managing their finances,
- 14:53Speaker 5: not just their personal finances, but their business finances as well.
- 14:57Speaker 4: Well, I know our banking institutions sent us one of
- 15:00Speaker 4: those letters during that time. And this should not be
- 15:04Speaker 4: surprising because the evidence is, Victor, went all the way
- 15:08Speaker 4: to the Supreme Court of what the Biden administration did
- 15:12Speaker 4: to conservative voices on the social media platforms by leaning
- 15:17Speaker 4: on those tech institutions to deplatform those individuals.
- 15:23Speaker 6: Another word of the era.
- 15:24Speaker 5: We haven't heard that in a long time, but we
- 15:26Speaker 5: heard a lot about deplatforming.
- 15:28Speaker 1: We saw deplatforming.
- 15:30Speaker 5: The president was banned from some major newspapers, some major sites.
- 15:37Speaker 1: Thankfully, we did.
- 15:39Speaker 5: Have Elon Musk and his grabbing of the X slash
- 15:44Speaker 5: Twitter world and voices were heard there.
- 15:47Speaker 1: But yeah, the sort of the.
- 15:49Speaker 5: Squashing of speech, the squashing of freedom to operate a
- 15:56Speaker 5: business or believe in a certain religious or political fashion
- 16:02Speaker 5: was being pushed and ultimately was being suppressed by the administration.
- 16:09Speaker 5: A classic tactic of the deep, deep left.
- 16:14Speaker 6: So, Dr.
- 16:15Speaker 4: Zervos, there was also a very familiar name that I
- 16:19Speaker 4: found in this report, and that was the Southern Poverty
- 16:23Speaker 4: Law Center, which several of these institutions actually relied upon
- 16:29Speaker 4: their classification of conservative groups as hate groups and in
- 16:34Speaker 4: their decision to drop or to not allow these institutions
- 16:39Speaker 4: to enter into the banking world.
- 16:43Speaker 1: Absolutely.
- 16:43Speaker 5: Now, that seems to be one of the centers, as
- 16:48Speaker 5: there were others as well, but one of the centers
- 16:50Speaker 5: that was getting funding, that was using that funding to
- 16:53Speaker 5: engage in this activity. And also, and I'm not sure
- 16:57Speaker 5: where this stands in terms of where the allegations are
- 17:02Speaker 5: or where the courts are. But there was some discussion,
- 17:05Speaker 5: as you remember, it was a few months ago about
- 17:08Speaker 5: actually concocting activities that were negative and then trying to
- 17:14Speaker 5: blame them on radical groups so that they could then
- 17:17Speaker 5: even raise more money to fight that radicalness of that.
- 17:21Speaker 1: That vision that they had of radicalness.
- 17:23Speaker 5: So the depths of, I want to say, almost depravity, Tony,
- 17:30Speaker 5: really are unprecedented.
- 17:33Speaker 4: Well, I actually testified before the Congress on the SPLC
- 17:38Speaker 4: and their connection with the banking institutions and the tech platforms.
- 17:42Speaker 4: I think there's probably more, even to the level of
- 17:45Speaker 4: a conspiratorial, that they conspired together to attack conservative organizations,
- 17:52Speaker 4: debank these conservative organizations. So with that, in mind, what's next?
- 17:57Speaker 4: Is there going to be further investigations to this? Will
- 18:00Speaker 4: the banks that did this to conservative organizations be held accountable?
- 18:07Speaker 1: Well, that would be the idea. We just saw some
- 18:10Speaker 1: fines being.
- 18:11Speaker 5: Levied on major banks for other activities, anti-money laundering violations. But,
- 18:19Speaker 5: you know, the fines themselves, you know, they hurt the shareholders,
- 18:24Speaker 5: they hurt the business. They hurt the executives somewhat, but
- 18:27Speaker 5: they also hurt the employees that really weren't part of it.
- 18:30Speaker 5: I think at some point we ought to think about
- 18:34Speaker 5: how we dig deep enough to find the people who
- 18:37Speaker 5: are driving this and make it harder on them to
- 18:41Speaker 5: do these sorts of things. And I really hope, Tony,
- 18:43Speaker 5: that as we uncover all this, and I hope you're wrong,
- 18:46Speaker 5: but I fear you're right about what you just said
- 18:49Speaker 5: on the deeper conspiracies, that we find guardrails that we
- 18:52Speaker 5: can put up and regulatory.
- 18:55Speaker 5: Sort of barriers that just don't let this happen again.
- 18:59Speaker 5: And it's just such a travesty of justice in a
- 19:05Speaker 5: free capitalist society. I mean, we are not a third
- 19:09Speaker 5: world country with a stand at the end of our
- 19:12Speaker 5: name where you can just bully whoever you want once
- 19:16Speaker 5: you get into power. That's just not how the American
- 19:18Speaker 5: system works. And it was really frightening to see the
- 19:22Speaker 5: details of this report and how the depths of debanking
- 19:27Speaker 5: really just went so much further than anybody would have
- 19:31Speaker 5: ever thought.
- 19:32Speaker 2: Well, Dr.
- 19:32Speaker 4: Zervos, we're just about out of time, but I think
- 19:34Speaker 4: that last point is extremely important, is that we put
- 19:37Speaker 4: up those guardrails so that it doesn't happen again. I
- 19:39Speaker 4: think this administration has been very good at uncovering what
- 19:43Speaker 4: the previous administration did, but we've got to make sure
- 19:46Speaker 4: it doesn't happen again.
- 19:47Speaker 6: And I hope that's on the agenda. 20 seconds left.
- 19:52Speaker 1: Absolutely.
- 19:53Speaker 5: If there's anything that I think.
- 19:55Speaker 1: The folks here at Treasury and the rest of the financial.
- 19:58Speaker 5: Regulators like the OCC, the FDIC, the CFTC, all of
- 20:01Speaker 5: the SEC, this is a priority. This is a huge priority.
- 20:05Speaker 5: The is going to happen over the next few years
- 20:11Speaker 5: and hopefully many more years to come as we continue
- 20:15Speaker 5: to hold on to the power base that we've built
- 20:18Speaker 5: and stop the power base from before from abusing it.
- 20:22Speaker 2: Dr.
- 20:22Speaker 6: Zarros, thank you so much. Folks, stick with us. We'll
- 20:25Speaker 6: be back right after this.
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- 20:35Speaker 9: to older Americans.
- 20:36Speaker 10: I counted on it to pay for groceries and prescriptions.
- 20:39Speaker 10: Everything costs more now.
- 20:41Speaker 9: AARP is fighting to protect the Social Security Americans earn
- 20:45Speaker 9: through a lifetime of hard work.
- 20:47Speaker 11: I've paid into Social Security since I was a teenager.
- 20:50Speaker 11: It isn't a handout. I earned it.
- 20:53Speaker 9: Join us to stand up for Social Security. Visit aarp.org
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- 21:05Speaker 8: Welcome back.
- 21:06Speaker 4: All right, two wars, thousands of miles apart. They may
- 21:10Speaker 4: have more in common than we realize. Russia continues its
- 21:13Speaker 4: war against Ukraine, while in the Middle East, Iran and
- 21:16Speaker 4: its terrorist proxies threaten Israel, Saudi Arabia, and international shipping. Now,
- 21:23Speaker 4: a new investigation reveals that Iranian-backed Houthis are attempting to
- 21:27Speaker 4: manufacture advanced ballistic missiles using components obtained from Chinese suppliers.
- 21:33Speaker 4: China is also a critical source of technological and dual-use
- 21:39Speaker 4: components supporting Russia's war effort in Ukraine. So, are these
- 21:44Speaker 4: separate regional conflicts, or are we witnessing an increasingly coordinated
- 21:50Speaker 4: challenge to America's interest in global security?
- 21:54Speaker 6: Joining us to discuss this.
- 21:56Speaker 4: Is retired Rear Admiral Mark Montgomery, Senior Director at the
- 22:00Speaker 4: Foundation for Defense of Democracies and co-author of The Axis
- 22:04Speaker 4: of Aggressors, a report examining the growing cooperation among China, Russia, Iran,
- 22:11Speaker 4: and North Korea. Admiral Montgomery, welcome to This Week on
- 22:15Speaker 4: Capitol Hill. Thank you so much for joining us. Well,
- 22:18Speaker 4: thank you for having me. So you've studied the growing
- 22:20Speaker 4: cooperation between China, Russia, Iran, and North Korea. How interconnected
- 22:26Speaker 4: are the war in Ukraine and the conflicts in the
- 22:30Speaker 4: Middle East? And what role is China playing in sustaining
- 22:34Speaker 4: these conflicts?
- 22:37Speaker 2: Thank you for having me. And I have to tell you,
- 22:40Speaker 2: they are very connected. And in our book, we document
- 22:44Speaker 2: that these four countries, which is really six bilateral relationships,
- 22:49Speaker 2: have conducted over 700 measurable military, economic or technological transfers
- 22:56Speaker 2: to each other. They've assisted each other very aggressively. And
- 23:00Speaker 2: that's just in the past five years. You've really seen
- 23:03Speaker 2: a coming together of this. I'd even more focus it
- 23:07Speaker 2: on after Russia invaded Ukraine in February of 2022. You know,
- 23:12Speaker 2: Ukraine realistically is fighting four countries. Russia, obviously, with over
- 23:18Speaker 2: 400,000 soldiers coming in fresh every year to fight the Ukrainians.
- 23:22Speaker 2: Iran providing Shahed drones, North Korea providing troops, plus 6
- 23:27Speaker 2: million rounds of artillery, plus ballistic missiles. And then this
- 23:31Speaker 2: is what you're asking. China's the quarterback of the whole thing.
- 23:35Speaker 2: They're orchestrating much of this. They do all the economic backstopping,
- 23:39Speaker 2: the economic support. So if you're Russia and you begin
- 23:42Speaker 2: to get sanctioned, China comes and assists you. If you're
- 23:44Speaker 2: Iran and you begin to get sanctioned, China comes to
- 23:47Speaker 2: assist you. And they provide the microelectronics, those exact parts
- 23:51Speaker 2: we're seeing in the Houthi missiles.
- 23:53Speaker 6: So China's the backstop.
- 23:55Speaker 2: They're not NATO, but there's six aggressive bilateral relationships that
- 23:59Speaker 2: are giving us this access of aggressors.
- 24:02Speaker 6: So, Admiral.
- 24:04Speaker 4: China wouldn't be acting like Iran with these proxies, but
- 24:07Speaker 4: they're certainly taking advantage of these actors that are out
- 24:12Speaker 4: there weakening the United States or probing the United States
- 24:15Speaker 4: for weakness.
- 24:17Speaker 2: Oh, you got it exactly right there. This is not
- 24:19Speaker 2: an issue. China doesn't care about the Houthis. They don't
- 24:23Speaker 2: care about Hezbollah. They don't care about, you know, any
- 24:26Speaker 2: of these. They don't care about Iran, frankly. What they
- 24:28Speaker 2: care about is pinning the United States down in the
- 24:30Speaker 2: Middle East, distracting Europe and Ukraine, you know, driving a
- 24:36Speaker 2: wedge between Europe and the United States over Ukraine. You know,
- 24:38Speaker 2: they look at both of these ongoing conflicts as a.
- 24:43Speaker 1: To their benefit.
- 24:44Speaker 2: And in fact, they're doing the same thing now with
- 24:46Speaker 2: the Houthis and the Saudis. The Saudis are an ally
- 24:48Speaker 2: of the United States, so they're.
- 24:50Speaker 1: Helping the Houthis.
- 24:51Speaker 2: All of this is intended to distract the United States
- 24:54Speaker 2: from worrying about our true number one challenge, which is
- 24:57Speaker 2: the challenge from China, first in the Indo-Pacific, but then
- 25:01Speaker 2: really more broadly globally.
- 25:04Speaker 4: So how much of our focus has shifted now to
- 25:07Speaker 4: the Middle East and to the Eastern Europe?
- 25:10Speaker 2: You know, there's a very detailed discussion of munitions and
- 25:13Speaker 2: how we've lost a lot of our we had insufficient
- 25:16Speaker 2: munitions for a China conflict in some areas to begin with.
- 25:20Speaker 2: Some areas were on a razor's edge and some areas
- 25:22Speaker 2: with a lot of excess. And now all of those
- 25:25Speaker 2: issues are slightly more vexing. You know, we've certainly in
- 25:29Speaker 2: air defense weapons. We're now very short for what we
- 25:32Speaker 2: need for China conflict. That's only the surface problem. The
- 25:35Speaker 2: deep problem is that our military forces are being committed
- 25:39Speaker 2: to the Middle East right now and that we will
- 25:41Speaker 2: not have the forces we need for a crisis in Afghanistan.
- 25:45Speaker 2: with China or Russia in 2028 or 2029, because the
- 25:50Speaker 2: military goes to what's called a readiness bathtub. After you
- 25:53Speaker 2: spend years on a prolonged deployment far away from U.S. coast,
- 25:59Speaker 2: like we're doing in Iran, you can't generate forces two
- 26:03Speaker 2: to three years later.
- 26:03Speaker 4: We just have about 45 seconds left, Admiral, but what
- 26:07Speaker 4: does America need to be looking at right now?
- 26:11Speaker 2: First, we need to help bring each of these conflicts
- 26:14Speaker 2: to a conclusion, the current ones.
- 26:16Speaker 1: They're a drag on us and not a drag on China.
- 26:19Speaker 2: So I think the economic strangulation of Iran that the
- 26:22Speaker 2: president's doing is the right thing, what the U.S. Navy
- 26:25Speaker 2: and Secretary Besson are doing is the right thing. And
- 26:28Speaker 2: I think it needs to be pressure on Vladimir Putin
- 26:31Speaker 2: to bring that Russia-Ukraine war to an end. If those
- 26:34Speaker 2: two wars could come to an end, the United States
- 26:36Speaker 2: could begin to recapitalize itself and spend that money that
- 26:39Speaker 2: the president's given the Department of Defense in order to
- 26:43Speaker 2: be ready for the next crisis or conflict.
- 26:45Speaker 6: Admiral Montgomery, I want to thank you for joining us.
- 26:48Speaker 4: Appreciate your expertise and sharing it with us. All right, folks,
- 26:51Speaker 4: on the other side of the break, House Speaker Mike
- 26:53Speaker 4: Johnson joins us from the campaign trail.
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- 27:36Speaker 4: Welcome back to This Week on Capitol Hill. I'm Tony Perkins,
- 27:39Speaker 4: your host. Well, as the midterms approach, the legacy media
- 27:43Speaker 4: and left-leaning pollsters are forecasting a blue wave. as a
- 27:48Speaker 4: sitting president's party often loses seats.
- 27:51Speaker 6: But, but, could the.
- 27:53Speaker 4: Pollsters be missing a wave of a different color, a
- 27:56Speaker 4: silver wave of enthusiastic senior voters? Joining us now from
- 28:02Speaker 4: the campaign trail for our weekly conversation is House Speaker
- 28:05Speaker 4: Mike Johnson, who represents the 4th Congressional District of Louisiana.
- 28:09Speaker 9: Mr.
- 28:09Speaker 6: Speaker, welcome back to This Week on Capitol Hill.
- 28:12Speaker 8: Hey, Tony.
- 28:13Speaker 3: Good morning from sunny Tampa, Florida. And all over the
- 28:17Speaker 3: country this week, lots of energy, lots of excitement. And
- 28:20Speaker 3: I'm telling you, those pollsters are not registering what's actually
- 28:23Speaker 3: happening on the ground.
- 28:24Speaker 4: Let's talk about that silver wave of senior voters. Now,
- 28:30Speaker 4: they generally do occupy a larger percentage of the voting population,
- 28:35Speaker 4: but could it be that they remember some of the
- 28:39Speaker 4: threats that socialism posed to the world?
- 28:43Speaker 6: Younger voters don't know that, haven't been taught that. Could
- 28:46Speaker 6: that be a part of it?
- 28:47Speaker 3: I think you're onto something there, and I think that's
- 28:49Speaker 3: exactly right. Look, just my anecdotal evidence, okay, this week,
- 28:53Speaker 3: I was in eight different states. I'll be in 40
- 28:55Speaker 3: congressional districts across 22 states this month alone. We're going
- 28:59Speaker 3: to campaign all the way up until the polls close
- 29:01Speaker 3: on Election Day, crisscrossing the country. Just this week, I
- 29:04Speaker 3: was in the furthest point of South Texas, in McAllen, Texas.
- 29:08Speaker 3: I was all the way up to the state of Maine,
- 29:10Speaker 3: in Maine's second district, with our candidate Paul LePage there,
- 29:13Speaker 3: former governor, who's going to flip a blue seat to red.
- 29:15Speaker 3: And then I went to New Hampshire and Virginia and
- 29:18Speaker 3: North Carolina, and now in Florida. I'm telling you, Tony,
- 29:21Speaker 3: everywhere that I have been, We've had huge enthusiastic crowds
- 29:25Speaker 3: turning out for these candidate forums and rallies that we're doing.
- 29:29Speaker 3: And to your point, there's large numbers of seniors, voters
- 29:34Speaker 3: who are coming out. And I think there's a couple
- 29:36Speaker 3: of reasons for that. One is exactly what you said, Tony.
- 29:40Speaker 3: This threat of socialism and Marxism and communism resonates with
- 29:45Speaker 3: older Americans in particular because they remember the Cold War.
- 29:47Speaker 1: They remember the threats.
- 29:49Speaker 3: Some of these people have fled from socialist countries and
- 29:53Speaker 3: come to America, and they know what is going on here,
- 29:56Speaker 3: and they're very, very motivated. They know this insurgent left
- 29:59Speaker 3: that's taking over the Democrat Party is a threat to
- 30:02Speaker 3: freedom for their grandchildren and their children and all of us.
- 30:05Speaker 3: They're coming out and they're very, very engaged. I think
- 30:08Speaker 3: there's a lot of early voting going on right now
- 30:10Speaker 3: around the country. And I know and I believe that
- 30:13Speaker 3: the post-election polling and analysis will reflect that this was
- 30:17Speaker 3: a this is a big senior turnout for this midterm.
- 30:20Speaker 1: Probably. more uh than than in any.
- 30:22Speaker 3: Other time and then also what i'm seeing what i'm
- 30:24Speaker 3: hearing from that demographic is that they're so grateful for
- 30:28Speaker 3: what we've done with the great record that our incumbents
- 30:30Speaker 3: and our candidates are running on you know with the
- 30:32Speaker 3: working families tax cut for example one of the big
- 30:35Speaker 3: things we did was we reduced taxes on social security
- 30:39Speaker 3: and so in most of the states i'm going into
- 30:41Speaker 3: the numbers are different for each state by population but
- 30:45Speaker 3: I'm reporting to them. Not only have we cut taxes
- 30:47Speaker 3: for all individuals, we increased the child tax credit, we
- 30:50Speaker 3: raised the standard deduction, but millions of seniors in each
- 30:53Speaker 3: state are no longer paying taxes on Social Security. And
- 30:56Speaker 3: every time that I go through the list of all
- 30:58Speaker 3: the achievements and I get to that line, there's rousing
- 31:00Speaker 3: applause because that's real money for real people. They know
- 31:04Speaker 3: that we've fulfilled our promises and they are ready to
- 31:06Speaker 3: go out and cast their ballots.
- 31:08Speaker 4: And by the way, folks, if you need help kind
- 31:10Speaker 4: of knowing what's on the ballot, I've got a resource
- 31:12Speaker 4: for you. You can text the word VOTE to 67742.
- 31:17Speaker 4: That's VOTE to 67742. And I'll send you a link
- 31:19Speaker 4: to where you can get a personalized voter guide based
- 31:22Speaker 4: upon where you live.
- 31:25Speaker 2: Mr.
- 31:25Speaker 6: Speaker, I remember those days when the socialists were in power. Now,
- 31:28Speaker 6: I was young.
- 31:29Speaker 4: I was young, but I remember those days as a
- 31:32Speaker 4: young Marine. And The younger generation just doesn't understand those threats.
- 31:38Speaker 4: And I do think it's a motivating factor for for
- 31:42Speaker 4: senior voters who are concerned about the future, concerned about
- 31:46Speaker 4: their grandchildren and what kind of country they're going to
- 31:49Speaker 4: leave behind. Yes.
- 31:50Speaker 3: And another thing about mature voters is they look at
- 31:54Speaker 3: actual records and not rhetoric, you know. And a lot
- 31:58Speaker 3: of young people, I mean, let's face it, they get
- 32:00Speaker 3: their news in 15 second, you know, bytes on TikTok
- 32:03Speaker 3: or whatever their social media platform is. And that's not
- 32:08Speaker 3: always the most reliable source for information, right? But older
- 32:12Speaker 3: voters tend to read more and study more and and
- 32:14Speaker 3: they understand the facts. And, you know, Ronald Reagan used
- 32:16Speaker 3: to say, you can trust the American people. When they
- 32:19Speaker 3: have the facts, they will make the right decision.
- 32:21Speaker 1: This is why we're going around the country to present
- 32:24Speaker 1: the facts.
- 32:24Speaker 3: It's why President Trump is campaigning nonstop, like he's on
- 32:27Speaker 3: the ballot himself, to get the facts out there. It's
- 32:30Speaker 3: why the Vice President is, and all of us, we're
- 32:32Speaker 3: leaving it all on the field. Cabinet Secretary is traveling nonstop,
- 32:35Speaker 3: and our candidates are doing extraordinary work presenting the real
- 32:38Speaker 3: facts to the people. And when you look at the facts,
- 32:40Speaker 3: it's common sense versus crazy. And in many cases now, communism...
- 32:44Speaker 3: versus common sense, and common sense is going to prevail
- 32:46Speaker 3: at the end of the day.
- 32:48Speaker 6: Let's talk a little bit about those polls.
- 32:50Speaker 4: I've been on both sides of the line as an
- 32:53Speaker 4: elected official and as a reporter in the media, and
- 32:56Speaker 4: I've kind of been behind the lines in the media. Oftentimes,
- 33:00Speaker 4: what I've seen increasingly over my lifetime is that the media,
- 33:05Speaker 4: especially the establishment media, the left-leaning media, they use polls
- 33:10Speaker 4: more to shape outcomes than they do to take a
- 33:12Speaker 4: snapshot of what's happening.
- 33:15Speaker 1: That's exactly right.
- 33:16Speaker 3: And the mainstream media is advancing this narrative. I believe
- 33:21Speaker 3: there's a concerted effort between the Democrats and the mainstream media.
- 33:24Speaker 3: They're allies in the media that are openly biased in
- 33:27Speaker 3: their favor. They want to dispirit the Republican side. They
- 33:30Speaker 3: want to discourage turnout on the Republican side. And so
- 33:34Speaker 3: it can become a self-fulfilling prophecy that they prevail in
- 33:38Speaker 3: the election. We cannot buy into it. Don't buy it.
- 33:41Speaker 3: I don't believe there are reliable polls anymore. Even some
- 33:45Speaker 3: of our own candidates who are doing internal polling, even
- 33:48Speaker 3: they have a hard time getting Republicans to respond to
- 33:51Speaker 3: polls because Republicans don't trust pollsters anymore.
- 33:54Speaker 1: And they can't.
- 33:54Speaker 3: Discern when they get a call who's originating the call.
- 33:57Speaker 1: And that is affecting the outcome of the polls.
- 33:59Speaker 4: So I played a clip at the beginning of the
- 34:01Speaker 4: program of you on the campaign trail this week where
- 34:04Speaker 4: encouraging people, no matter, I think you were in Texas,
- 34:07Speaker 4: saying no matter where you are, your vote matters because
- 34:10Speaker 4: some of these elections will be decided by a handful
- 34:13Speaker 4: of votes.
- 34:14Speaker 1: Literally true.
- 34:15Speaker 3: And I've said we had 10 races in 2024 that
- 34:17Speaker 3: were decided by 6,000 votes or less in the House
- 34:21Speaker 3: of Representatives. That determined the majority. And I always cite
- 34:24Speaker 3: my friend, Marionette Miller-Meeks, a congresswoman from Iowa. Her first
- 34:27Speaker 3: race a couple of terms ago, she won it literally
- 34:29Speaker 3: by six votes.
- 34:31Speaker 1: She's still nicknamed six pack in the house because of it.
- 34:35Speaker 3: And that reminds us, I mean, you cannot take anything
- 34:38Speaker 3: for granted, especially in a midterm, because the turnout tends
- 34:42Speaker 3: to be lower overall when there's not a presidential race.
- 34:45Speaker 3: So you got to vote. If you are a person
- 34:47Speaker 3: who appreciates your freedom, loves the American way and does
- 34:50Speaker 3: not want to turn this country over to this communist
- 34:52Speaker 3: way that is overtaking the other party in this country,
- 34:55Speaker 3: you got to get out and vote and you got
- 34:57Speaker 3: to vote and get your family and your friends and
- 34:59Speaker 3: everybody at church involved.
- 35:00Speaker 1: Every single vote literally.
- 35:01Speaker 6: Is going to matter.
- 35:02Speaker 1: This is going to be close races.
- 35:04Speaker 10: Mr.
- 35:04Speaker 4: Speaker, thank you for joining us this morning. I know
- 35:06Speaker 4: you've got to get back out there on the campaign trail.
- 35:09Speaker 4: Safe travels, and we'll talk to you next week.
- 35:11Speaker 8: Thanks, Tony.
- 35:12Speaker 1: God bless.
- 35:12Speaker 4: All right, folks, let me again encourage you, if you
- 35:16Speaker 4: are not prepared to go vote, I can help you.
- 35:18Speaker 6: Text the word VOTE to 67742.
- 35:21Speaker 4: That's VOTE to 67742, and you get a personalized voter guide.
- 35:26Speaker 6: All right, stick with us. We'll be right back. Welcome
- 35:37Speaker 6: back to This Week on Capitol Hill.
- 35:39Speaker 4: Proverbs 20.23 says, The Lord detests double standards. He is
- 35:43Speaker 4: not pleased by dishonest scales. The Bible has much to
- 35:46Speaker 4: say about economic honesty and government's responsibility to uphold just standards.
- 35:53Speaker 4: That's why I welcomed this week's report from the Office
- 35:55Speaker 4: of the Comptroller of the Currency, or OCC, one of
- 35:58Speaker 4: America's principal banking regulators. The report, guaranteeing fair banking for
- 36:03Speaker 4: all Americans, found that the nation's nine largest banks maintained
- 36:07Speaker 4: policies that restricted banking services based on customers' religious or
- 36:12Speaker 4: political beliefs. In other words, Americans could be debanked because
- 36:17Speaker 4: of what they believed. Family Research Council, which I lead,
- 36:20Speaker 4: was among the organizations affected. Banks frequently justified such decisions
- 36:25Speaker 4: by citing reputational risk. Apparently, doing business with pro-life organizations
- 36:31Speaker 4: or religious groups that believe marriage is between a man
- 36:34Speaker 4: and a woman was considered a threat to their reputation.
- 36:37Speaker 4: These practices just happened to overlap with the Biden administration,
- 36:42Speaker 4: which also pressured social media platforms to cancel critics of
- 36:46Speaker 4: the administration. Was this simply ideological conformity in corporate America,
- 36:51Speaker 4: or did government pressure play a role? That question deserves investigation.
- 36:57Speaker 4: And guess whose name surfaced in the report? The Southern
- 37:00Speaker 4: Poverty Law Center, the SPLC. Banks referenced the SPLC's hate
- 37:04Speaker 4: group designations in assessing customers. Earlier this year, I testified
- 37:09Speaker 4: before the House Judiciary Committee about the SPLC's efforts to
- 37:13Speaker 4: pressure financial institutions to debank Christian and conservative organizations. Now
- 37:20Speaker 4: federal regulators have documented how the banks willingly complied with
- 37:24Speaker 4: the SPLC. But here's where the story takes an extraordinary turn.
- 37:29Speaker 4: Just one day before the OCC released its report, the
- 37:33Speaker 4: Treasury Department announced $ 1. 2 billion in penalties against the Bank
- 37:38Speaker 4: of America, the third largest penalty in Treasury Department history.
- 37:43Speaker 8: Why?
- 37:44Speaker 4: The bank failed to properly monitor and report more than
- 37:47Speaker 4: $ 5 billion in suspicious financial activity, including transactions raising serious
- 37:54Speaker 4: money laundering concerns. Regulators described their compliance program as deficient
- 38:01Speaker 4: and ineffective.
- 38:02Speaker 6: Think about that. Some of America's.
- 38:05Speaker 4: Largest banks scrutinized lawful Americans for their religious and political beliefs,
- 38:11Speaker 4: while some failed to monitor billions of dollars in potentially
- 38:15Speaker 4: illicit transactions, which was required to be monitored by law.
- 38:20Speaker 6: That's quite a double standard. Now, these are separate regulatory findings.
- 38:25Speaker 4: They don't prove the bank neglected financial crime because it
- 38:28Speaker 4: was focused on conservative customers. But together, they raise a
- 38:32Speaker 4: fundamental question about institutional priorities. Banks should be concerned about
- 38:36Speaker 4: their reputations, but reputations are built on integrity, not ideological conformity.
- 38:42Speaker 4: If these institutions want to protect their reputations... they should
- 38:45Speaker 4: spend less time policing the beliefs of law-abiding Americans and
- 38:49Speaker 4: more time policing the financial activity they're legally obligated to monitor.
- 38:54Speaker 4: And government regulators must ensure lawful consumers are treated fairly,
- 38:58Speaker 4: regardless of their convictions. Scripture tells us the Lord detests
- 39:02Speaker 4: dishonest scales. Americans should reject a banking system that holds
- 39:06Speaker 4: its customers to one standard and itself to another. I
- 39:10Speaker 4: want a bank that will safeguard my money, not weigh
- 39:13Speaker 4: my religious beliefs in a biased scale.
- 39:15Speaker 6: That has been This Week on Capitol Hill.