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Mega Edition: Jeffrey Epstein And The Evidence Pointing To Who Was On The Plane (9/11/26) · The Vault: The Epstein Files

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Speaker 1: Denise George is expanding her investigation once again in the
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Speaker 1: Virgin Islands. The Mirror is reporting tonight that Denise George
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Speaker 1: has subpoenaed the flight logs of Jeffrey Epstein's pilots from
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Speaker 1: all of the planes and the helicopters. Now, remember, we
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Speaker 1: only have a portion of the flight logs, right? We
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Speaker 1: don't have anything else. from Larry Vesosky. All we have
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Speaker 1: so far are the flight logs from David Rogers. So
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Speaker 1: this subpoena is going all the way back to the
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Speaker 1: 90s to get flight logs from the 90s all the
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Speaker 1: way up until Jeffrey Epstein's alleged suicide. Now, I am
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Speaker 1: not a fan of Denise George. Everybody who listens to
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Speaker 1: this podcast knows that. I think that it's real shifty
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Speaker 1: the way that she's positioning the Virgin Islands as a
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Speaker 1: victim in this case, as an entity that deserves reparations
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Speaker 1: for what Jeffrey Epstein did while in their territory. My
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Speaker 1: counter to that is, well, your colleagues, former or current,
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Speaker 1: were the ones who gave him them sweetheart deals. They
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Speaker 1: were the ones that hooked him up with those tax
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Speaker 1: havens and breaks. So why do you think that you
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Speaker 1: should eat at the trough twice? Your people already wet
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Speaker 1: their beak, right? Your colleagues already wet their beak one
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Speaker 1: time around. So now you're coming around for seconds. What
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Speaker 1: are you going to wear a mask and a bit
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Speaker 1: of a costume so you can get some seconds here?
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Speaker 1: It's just it's unseemly. Now, the Virgin Islands should not
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Speaker 1: get one single dollar out of any of this. But
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Speaker 1: if Denise George wants to continue with her investigation and
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Speaker 1: she wants to continue to let it mature and bloom
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Speaker 1: and keep subpoena, keep using the power of subpoena to
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Speaker 1: get these people to speak, then I'm all for that.
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Speaker 1: Because let me tell you what, there has to be
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Speaker 1: some real uncomfortable people who were on those flights, who
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Speaker 1: have denied being on those flights, that quite possibly are
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Speaker 1: on the logs that were kept by Vysotsky. Now, I
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Speaker 1: don't know for sure if that's the case, right? But
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Speaker 1: you would think that if we have seen what we
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Speaker 1: have seen with the limited amount of flight logs that
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Speaker 1: we have available to us, that what is contained in
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Speaker 1: the flight logs we have not seen yet could really
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Speaker 1: corroborate a lot of things moving forward about people who
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Speaker 1: were on those planes and who they were with when
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Speaker 1: they were on those flights. And that has to have
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Speaker 1: a lot of these people terrified, especially the ones that
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Speaker 1: have been playing the marathon game, right? The ones that
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Speaker 1: are playing the distance game, the kings of social distancing.
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Speaker 1: The people caught up in Jeffrey Epstein's fallout, these people
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Speaker 1: have social distancing down to a T, folks. But they're
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Speaker 1: distancing themselves from the truth. And it's going to boomerang
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Speaker 1: around and slap them right in the back of the head.
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Speaker 1: Because these documents are going to come out. Now remember also,
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Speaker 1: the 22nd, which is Tuesday, we have the appeals court.
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Speaker 1: So we have that coming as well. So there's a
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Speaker 1: lot coming down the pipe this week and in the
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Speaker 1: future as And anybody who was on this flight log,
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Speaker 1: especially the people who have lied and said they were
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Speaker 1: never on the flights or they couldn't have been there
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Speaker 1: at that time, those people definitely are not going to
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Speaker 1: sleep well knowing that this information has been subpoenaed and
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Speaker 1: that it is going to be in the hands of
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Speaker 1: the authorities. So let's see what the MIRA has to
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Speaker 1: say about these flight logs and them getting subpoenaed by
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Speaker 1: Denise George in the Virgin Islands. This article is from
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Speaker 1: the Mira. The author is Christopher Buckton. Headline, all passengers
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Speaker 1: on Epstein's flight logs to be named, sparking panic among
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Speaker 1: rich pals. Yikes. Now that's a pretty ominous headline, right?
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Speaker 1: And if that really happens and they go through with this,
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Speaker 1: and these logs are subpoenaed and we find out some
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Speaker 1: new tidbits perhaps that we didn't know that corroborate things
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Speaker 1: that we might think but can't prove fully, I'll tell
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Speaker 1: you what, it's going to take the investigation in a
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Speaker 1: whole new direction and open up a whole bunch of doors.
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Speaker 1: Because I know there are people out there that are
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Speaker 1: chomping at the bit to put these pieces together. People
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Speaker 1: that are way better at putting pieces together than I
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Speaker 1: am even. There are a lot of people that can't
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Speaker 1: wait to play that game, right? A ton of great
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Speaker 1: investigative journalists working on this case. And once all of
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Speaker 1: this stuff gets out and everybody gets to dig in,
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Speaker 1: I am sure that there are going to be some
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Speaker 1: connections made with people on those flight logs and people
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Speaker 1: who were at Epstein's Island or were accompanied by girls
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Speaker 1: who were trafficked by Epstein and Maxwell. Logs for every
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Speaker 1: flight made by Jeffrey Epstein's aircraft over 21 years have
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Speaker 1: been subpoenaed, sparking panic among his rich and famous pals.
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Speaker 1: Hell yeah, these people are freaking out. No doubt in
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Speaker 1: my mind that these people are freaking out. They understand
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Speaker 1: that the rug is being pulled out from underneath them.
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Speaker 1: They understand that they can no longer rely on their
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Speaker 1: lapdogs in the legacy media to gaslight the people. And
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Speaker 1: not because the legacy media has turned a new leaf.
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Speaker 1: Not that the legacy media cares now. It's that you
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Speaker 1: folks have woke up. All of us have taken a
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Speaker 1: look at what's going on, and we realize we're being
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Speaker 1: bullshitted every single time we turn on the TV. Every
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Speaker 1: single time we tune into one of these networks, we
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Speaker 1: know something. that they're lying to us, either directly or
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Speaker 1: they're lying by omission of truth. These people are professionals
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Speaker 1: at it, and they did it for Jeffrey Epstein for decades.
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Speaker 1: They lied about the girls. I mean, the New York
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Speaker 1: Post even got sued back in the day over it.
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Speaker 1: So these people have been laying down cover fire for
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Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein for decades. But now, They can't do that anymore, right?
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Speaker 1: Because the people see through their BS and the people
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Speaker 1: understand that there are independent content creators and journalists and
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Speaker 1: other forms of media now where the truth actually still matters.
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Speaker 1: The Attorney General for the U.S. Virgin Islands where Epstein
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Speaker 1: had a home has demanded logs for his four helicopters
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Speaker 1: and three planes from 1998 to his suicide last year. So...
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Speaker 1: That's going to be a lot of information, right? I
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Speaker 1: wonder how many flights were taken in that period of
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Speaker 1: time with these planes. I'm sure there's a way to
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Speaker 1: track that down and find out how many times they
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Speaker 1: took off and how many times they landed, etc., etc.
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Speaker 1: But I'm guessing that's going to be a lot of
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Speaker 1: paperwork and a lot of logs to go through for
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Speaker 1: these investigators. I'm curious to see what happens after they
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Speaker 1: have them, right? Are we going to see more subpoenas? Maybe.
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Speaker 1: It all depends on how serious Denise George is with
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Speaker 1: this investigation, right? Is she posturing here simply because she
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Speaker 1: wants to get her fingers dipped into that pie and
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Speaker 1: spread a little bit of that money around? We know
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Speaker 1: that a lot of states and territories and local municipalities
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Speaker 1: are up against it financially. Denise George certainly sees this
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Speaker 1: as a windfall, so that could definitely be motivating her
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Speaker 1: for trying to get money out of this. But if
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Speaker 1: we see more subpoenas after this one of people, specific people,
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Speaker 1: you would have to wonder if it's from these logs
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Speaker 1: or if these logs led to those other subpoenas being issued.
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Speaker 1: So it's a whole game of being a detective at
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Speaker 1: this point, following what's happening, right? Just trying to put
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Speaker 1: the pieces together and read between the lines. Denise George
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Speaker 1: has filed a lawsuit against Epstein's estate. alleging 22 counts
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Speaker 1: including aggravated rape, child abuse, and neglect, human trafficking, forced labor,
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Speaker 1: and prostitution. Now, remember, this is a RICO case that
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Speaker 1: they have going here, but the civil version of one. Now, again,
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Speaker 1: these civil cases can very easily become criminal cases if
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Speaker 1: the evidence presents itself in that direction. And if Denise
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Speaker 1: George and her team, which I'm not too familiar with,
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Speaker 1: I don't even know any of the other lawyers in
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Speaker 1: the office, to be honest with you. But if they're
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Speaker 1: really serious about pursuing justice here, if they're really serious
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Speaker 1: about digging in to what Epstein and in turn Maxwell
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Speaker 1: was about, then this is a surefire way to get there,
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Speaker 1: at the very least, to get on the trail. When
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Speaker 1: you start firing off all of these subpoenas and you
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Speaker 1: make all of these people speak under oath, it starts
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Speaker 1: making these rich scumbags real squirrely. as well as... the
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Speaker 1: passenger lists, Miss George is seeking any complaints or reports
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Speaker 1: of potentially suspicious conduct and any personal notes the pilots made.
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Speaker 1: So I don't know how successful she'll be with like
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Speaker 1: personal notes or anything. I'm sure that a lot of
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Speaker 1: these pilots will be... Like Vysotsky, we know how close
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Speaker 1: he is with Epstein. We know that he owns 40
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Speaker 1: acres on Zorro Ranch. And we also know that his
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Speaker 1: daughter got married at Zorro Ranch on those 40 acres.
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Speaker 1: So if Vysotsky has any personal notes, has he kept them?
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Speaker 1: Did he destroy them? I don't know one way or
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Speaker 1: the other, but you would think somebody that close to Epstein,
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Speaker 1: somebody that close to the action... And somebody who might
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Speaker 1: have some liability would go about cleaning up whatever sort
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Speaker 1: of loose ends they possibly could. But if he has notes,
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Speaker 1: and perhaps those notes were turned into wherever they turned
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Speaker 1: them in, I don't know, the FAA or something, maybe
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Speaker 1: she's trying to get those from there. Who knows? We'll
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Speaker 1: see how it turns out. The subpoena demands the names
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Speaker 1: and contact details of anyone who worked for the pilots
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Speaker 1: or who interacted with or observed Jeffrey Epstein or any
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Speaker 1: passengers associated with him. So I wonder if that's going
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Speaker 1: to go for the people who work at the airport
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Speaker 1: as well, because we know the ground crews. We know
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Speaker 1: people at the airports have all come out and said,
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Speaker 1: hell yeah, we saw these guys. We saw Jeffrey Epstein.
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Speaker 1: We saw Prince Andrew. We saw these famous people getting
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Speaker 1: off of the planes. So I wonder if she's going
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Speaker 1: to talk to them as well under oath. Pilot David
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Speaker 1: Rogers provided logs in 2009 showing Prince Andrew, Bill Clinton,
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Speaker 1: Kevin Spacey, and Naomi Campbell were among those who flew
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Speaker 1: on Epstein's Lolita Express jet. And again, it's going to
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Speaker 1: be interesting to get some more context, right? Some more
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Speaker 1: meat on the bone, try and see who was on
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Speaker 1: these planes and when. And... Let's try and corroborate some stories, right?
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Speaker 1: Let's put two and two together and let's see if
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Speaker 1: we come up with four. It's not suggested that they
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Speaker 1: were aware of Epstein's wrongdoing. Yeah, okay, whatever. I mean,
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Speaker 1: with Bill Clinton, Kevin Spacey, and Naomi Campbell, I'm willing
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Speaker 1: to say that, right? We don't have any evidence pointing
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Speaker 1: us otherwise in this specific case. But Prince Andrew, let's
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Speaker 1: not act like there's nothing suggesting that he didn't know
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Speaker 1: anything about wrongdoing. Old boy was engaging in wrongdoing, according
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Speaker 1: to Virginia. Old boy was busy abusing a trafficked girl
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Speaker 1: who was underage, according to Virginia. So I don't know
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Speaker 1: what that even means about they weren't aware of Epstein's wrongdoing.
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Speaker 1: Lawyers for the survivors say the 2009 logs did not
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Speaker 1: include flights made by chief pilot Larry Vesosky, who flew
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Speaker 1: for Epstein for more than 25 years. And this is
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Speaker 1: where the rubber is going to meet the road, folks.
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Speaker 1: Larry Vesosky is a key here. He's a very crucial
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Speaker 1: part of what's going on. I did a deep dive
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Speaker 1: into Larry Vesosky a while back. You can find that
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Speaker 1: in the catalog. And we went into his relationship with
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Speaker 1: Epstein and the mansion and the daughter and all of
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Speaker 1: that jazz. And still, Larry Vysotsky's name is coming up
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Speaker 1: as a crucial part of this case. This is a
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Speaker 1: guy who needs to be brought in and they need
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Speaker 1: to speak with him under oath. And he most certainly
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Speaker 1: needs to provide these logs. Zero doubt that he needs
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Speaker 1: to provide those logs and I'm sure can corroborate Even
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Speaker 1: more of the story... A legal source said... The records
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Speaker 1: that have been subpoenaed... Will make the ones Rogers provided...
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Speaker 1: Look like a post-it note... There is panic among many
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Speaker 1: of the rich... And the famous... And also... We have
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Speaker 1: seen the survivors talk about... How only a small portion
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Speaker 1: of these logs... Have been provided... Virginia has said that...
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Speaker 1: We've heard it from others... And we see it here.
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Speaker 1: We know that Rogers only provided a small portion of
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Speaker 1: these logs. And we know that Vesoski is playing a
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Speaker 1: huge role as far as ferreting these people around from
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Speaker 1: island to island, as far as being Epstein's chief pilot.
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Speaker 1: It's no different than someone like Adam Perry Lang, who
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Speaker 1: is the personal chef, or Indyke, who is the personal lawyer.
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Speaker 1: These people have intimate knowledge of Jeffrey Epstein. These people
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Speaker 1: know Jeffrey Epstein very well. Do you really think Jeffrey Epstein, Mr.
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Speaker 1: Privacy himself, would cut Larry Vesoski off a 40-acre parcel
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Speaker 1: at his hideaway in the middle of the desert if
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Speaker 1: Larry Vesoski was not a trusted confidant? I'll let you
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Speaker 1: stew on that for a few. Prince Andrew's friend, Ghislaine Maxwell, 58,
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Speaker 1: who was in jail awaiting trial on grooming and sex
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Speaker 1: abuse charges... often piloted helicopters to Epstein's private island. She
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Speaker 1: sure did. Did she have any logs? And not only
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Speaker 1: did she pilot the helicopters to the island, it was
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Speaker 1: also from the airport in Santa Fe and Albuquerque down
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Speaker 1: to the Zorro Ranch as well, according to sources. Also, remember, Dershowitz,
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Speaker 1: the Mr. I-kept-my-underpants-on man of... Such high ranking at Harvard University.
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Speaker 1: Scoffed at the idea that Ghislaine Maxwell was flying the
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Speaker 1: helicopters and bringing people back and forth. Just another little
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Speaker 1: bit of the story that Mr. Dershowitz, the Martha Vineyard
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Speaker 1: naked volleyball extraordinaire, can't keep straight. And we're going to
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Speaker 1: see more and more of that, folks, as this stuff
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Speaker 1: keeps coming out, as more information starts to leak, as
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Speaker 1: more information is brought forward by people who are in
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Speaker 1: the know and who have avoided coming forward for all
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Speaker 1: of these years because it was the comfortable thing to do. Well,
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Speaker 1: you're going to see it's not going to be so
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Speaker 1: comfortable anymore. Just take a look at Adam Perry Lang.
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Speaker 1: The writing is on the wall for the rest of
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Speaker 1: these people that enabled Jeffrey Epstein or who witnessed what
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Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell were up to. And the
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Speaker 1: writing says that you will either speak to the authorities
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Speaker 1: of your own free will or you will be subpoenaed
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Speaker 1: and compelled to do so. If you'd like to contact me,
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Speaker 1: this episode can be found in the description box. Alright,
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Speaker 1: the article was written on... January 23rd, 2015. And it
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Speaker 1: says by DailyMail.com reporter. It doesn't give a name. I
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Speaker 1: would like to give the credit to the reporter who
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Speaker 1: wrote the article, but they don't give me his or
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Speaker 1: her name to do so. So we'll just call it
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Speaker 1: the DailyMail.com reporter. The article just released flight records show
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Speaker 1: Harvard law professor Alan Dershowitz has been flying with convicted
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Speaker 1: pedophile Jeffrey Epstein on the financier pedophile private jet dubbed
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Speaker 1: the Lolita Express since as early as 1997, despite public
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Speaker 1: statements that they were only acquaintances. Again, folks, it follows
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Speaker 1: the same pattern of Prince Andrew and the rest of them. Oh,
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Speaker 1: I hardly knew the guy. Come on, we hung out
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Speaker 1: at a couple of parties and we had some caviar.
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Speaker 1: I didn't know him, though. I had no idea he
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Speaker 1: was involved in this stuff. Meanwhile, these dudes are flying
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Speaker 1: on the plane with them. You don't think people talk?
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Speaker 1: Come on. Furthermore, furthermore, I don't know about you, but
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Speaker 1: I haven't showed up to any of my friends' houses
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Speaker 1: lately to watch the game or whatever to find them
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Speaker 1: hanging out in a towel with a harem of young
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Speaker 1: girls around them talking about, hey, let's get massaged. No,
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Speaker 1: if I'm going to get a massage, I go to
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Speaker 1: an actual facility to do so. The money that these
18:26
Speaker 1: people have, they might not have to go to a facility,
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Speaker 1: but they could bring in the best masseuses in the world. Massage, uh,
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Speaker 1: masseuses that work on athletes and the start, blah, blah, blah.
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Speaker 1: But no, they have a harem of little girls, and
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Speaker 1: Dershowitz doesn't question it? Okay, yeah, sure, I believe that.
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Speaker 1: The flight records obtained by Gawker also show former President
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Speaker 1: Bill Clinton rode on Epstein's jet at least 11 times,
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Speaker 1: 26 now, when you go back and, you know, look
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Speaker 1: into the future. Remember, this article's from 2015. And often
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Speaker 1: with two of Epstein's female associates believed to have provided
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Speaker 1: dozens of underage girls to their boss and his well-connected friends. Again, folks,
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Speaker 1: I'm not... I'm not here to hatchet job Bill Clinton.
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Speaker 1: I'm not a big fan of Bill Clinton. But at
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Speaker 1: the same time, nobody has made any allegations so far
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Speaker 1: that he was abusing girls in Epstein's trafficking ring. Now,
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Speaker 1: we can all, you know, look at the evidence and
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Speaker 1: the optics do not look good for Epstein. Bill Clinton,
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Speaker 1: there is no doubt about it. The optics do not
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Speaker 1: look good for Bill Clinton. But until somebody mentions him
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Speaker 1: in one of these court filings or in one of
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Speaker 1: these batches of released documents, then we just have to
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Speaker 1: go with the line of thinking that he enabled Jeffrey Epstein, okay?
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Speaker 1: We definitely know that. But besides that, we don't know
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Speaker 1: anything else, right? We don't know if Clinton was what
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Speaker 1: he was engaged in. And that's all part of this
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Speaker 1: knot that needs to be unraveled. According to court documents,
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Speaker 1: Epstein's former assistant, Sarah Kellen, and socialite pedophile Ghislaine Maxwell
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Speaker 1: allegedly found and groomed the underage girls to pimp out
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Speaker 1: to Epstein and his friends. Kellen received immunity for her
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Speaker 1: part in the ring during Epstein's court case in the mid-2000s,
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Speaker 1: while Maxwell was never charged and has furiously denied involvement.
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Speaker 1: Kellen makes me ill, okay? This chick went on to
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Speaker 1: marry a NASCAR driver and live her very best life. Meanwhile,
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Speaker 1: all of these victims that she left in her wake
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Speaker 1: are still dealing with the mental trauma from what they
20:25
Speaker 1: went through. If that doesn't get your blood pressure up,
20:28
Speaker 1: if that doesn't get your blood boiling, folks, I do
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Speaker 1: not know what will. In court filings, Roberts maintains that
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Speaker 1: she never had sexual relations with Clinton or knew of
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Speaker 1: him taking an interest in any of Epstein's other massage girls,
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Speaker 1: though he was sometimes present on the banker's private Caribbean
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Speaker 1: island during her years of work. And again... Folks, that
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Speaker 1: means that Clinton was definitely enabling what was going on.
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Speaker 1: There's no doubt about it, right? But I'm not willing
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Speaker 1: to put him in the same category as I am
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Speaker 1: of Alan Dershowitz. We don't have that allegation by anybody
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Speaker 1: yet to do that. So he's on the ring of enablers.
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Speaker 1: He's right there on the ring of enablers with his
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Speaker 1: good buddy Donald Trump. On Thursday, Dershowitz appeared on the
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Speaker 1: Today Show to emphatically deny claims he had sex with
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Speaker 1: then underage Roberts, saying she was making the whole thing up.
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Speaker 1: I'm sure she was, Crypt Keeper. I'm sure she was.
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Speaker 1: I was never in the presence of a single underage woman,
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Speaker 1: he said. Oh yeah, he wasn't, huh? Did he check
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Speaker 1: everyone's ID? How does he know that? He's a 4,000-year-old,
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Speaker 1: basically walking, mummified human being, and he knows a girl's age?
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Speaker 1: Stop it. Nobody believes you. Nobody believes you. I never
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Speaker 1: saw Epstein doing anything improper. I was not a witness,
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Speaker 1: I was not a participant, and I will prove it. Well,
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Speaker 1: five years later, he still hasn't proved diddly squat, yet
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Speaker 1: he's rewarded by a place of prominence on Donald Trump's team?
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Speaker 1: It's an affront, folks. It is an affront. On Wednesday,
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Speaker 1: Roberts lodged fresh documents in Florida detailing the alleged abuse
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Speaker 1: she suffered at the Duke of York's hands, including how
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Speaker 1: she had an orgy with him and eight other young girls. Again,
22:17
Speaker 1: who were these other young girls? I would really like
22:18
Speaker 1: to hear from them. I would like to see where
22:20
Speaker 1: their lives are at, what the trajectory of their lives
22:23
Speaker 1: has been since the abuse at these monsters' hands. And
22:26
Speaker 1: then I would like them to get a nice big
22:29
Speaker 1: fat payout when all of these animals are in prison, okay?
22:33
Speaker 1: But on Thursday, Dershowitz said that while Roberts claimed she
22:36
Speaker 1: had sex with him at Epstein's Caribbean Island and his
22:38
Speaker 1: New Mexico ranch. He had only been there briefly with
22:42
Speaker 1: his wife and daughter. So again, when I'm in New Mexico,
22:46
Speaker 1: one of the things I'm going to be talking about
22:48
Speaker 1: and asking about is if anyone is, you know, if
22:51
Speaker 1: any of the people that I'm going to be discussing
22:53
Speaker 1: the case with are familiar with Alan Dershowitz and if
22:56
Speaker 1: he had come to the ranch and if he had,
22:59
Speaker 1: how many times? See, these are the questions that nobody's
23:01
Speaker 1: asking and they're all pertinent, right? The accusations have been
23:04
Speaker 1: put on him. All right. Virginia Roberts has made these
23:09
Speaker 1: credible accusations and it is time for Alan Dershowitz to
23:13
Speaker 1: get the same kind of look that the rest of
23:15
Speaker 1: these people got. Again, we're not talking about just an
23:18
Speaker 1: enabler here. He's that. But we're talking about somebody who
23:21
Speaker 1: has been credibly accused by Virginia Roberts. OK, why this
23:25
Speaker 1: man is being shown any favor and why he's being
23:28
Speaker 1: handled with kid gloves is absolutely positively beyond me. He
23:34
Speaker 1: claims that the third accusation, that he had sex with
23:36
Speaker 1: Roberts on a private plane, is false and that flight
23:39
Speaker 1: manifest will prove he was never aboard the plane with her.
23:43
Speaker 1: I've never seen her and I've never met her, he insisted.
23:46
Speaker 1: She is categorically lying and making the whole thing up.
23:49
Speaker 1: This is Pinocchio's nose growing longer and longer. Oh, that's very,
23:53
Speaker 1: that's very quippy, Mr. Dershowitz. Where'd you learn that? At Harvard?
23:56
Speaker 1: Did you learn that, you know, in your fraternity house? Oh, hey,
24:00
Speaker 1: the Pinocchio nose growing longer and longer. Shut up. Shut up.
24:04
Speaker 1: Nobody believes you, Alan Dershowitz. Nobody. He insisted that his
24:07
Speaker 1: relationship with Epstein had been entirely academic, and that he
24:11
Speaker 1: had only ever met with him in the presence of
24:13
Speaker 1: dignitaries and professors. He told the American lawyer that reports
24:17
Speaker 1: that the two were chummy were a total bum rap.
24:20
Speaker 1: So he only met with him when he was hanging
24:22
Speaker 1: out with dignitaries and professors? You mean the other people
24:25
Speaker 1: that are accused of abusing these girls? Makes sense. You know,
24:28
Speaker 1: birds of a feather and all. Fellow travelers, huh, Mr. Dershowitz?
24:32
Speaker 1: While Epstein did donate to Dershowitz University in 2003, flight
24:36
Speaker 1: records show that they are familiar and it goes all
24:41
Speaker 1: the way back to December 1997 when the lawyer first
24:45
Speaker 1: rode on his jet from Palm Beach, Florida to New
24:47
Speaker 1: Jersey's Teterboro Airport with Epstein's gal pal Maxwell and a
24:52
Speaker 1: slew of women identified without their last names on the
24:55
Speaker 1: flight log. Well, I wonder why that is. Why wouldn't
24:58
Speaker 1: they have their full names on the flight log? Who
25:01
Speaker 1: ordered that? And what was the reasoning? What were they
25:03
Speaker 1: trying to protect? Who were they trying to protect? And
25:06
Speaker 1: the poor girls? Well, has anyone tried to find out
25:10
Speaker 1: who they are to see what the deal is? I mean,
25:12
Speaker 1: has the prosecution ever reached out to them for witness statements?
25:17
Speaker 1: I mean, we need more information, not just scratching the
25:21
Speaker 1: surface articles. We need detailed information. Their names were simply
25:28
Speaker 1: jotted down as Hazel, Claire, and one other anonymous female.
25:34
Speaker 1: When confronted with the flight information by Gawker, Dershowitz admitted
25:37
Speaker 1: that he had known Epstein since 1997 and wrote on
25:40
Speaker 1: the banker's jet to attend Limited Brand's CEO Les Wexner's
25:44
Speaker 1: 60th birthday. Oh, does that shock you? One member of
25:47
Speaker 1: the mega group going to see another member of the
25:49
Speaker 1: mega group? Boy, they are thick as thieves, these people, huh?
25:53
Speaker 1: And they all have the same sick excuses when they're
25:57
Speaker 1: asked about Epstein. It's like they've all circled the wagons
26:00
Speaker 1: and they got together and they came up with a
26:02
Speaker 1: defense that's pretty much mirrors the next guy's, because that's
26:05
Speaker 1: what it is, the same defense for each one of
26:07
Speaker 1: these enablers. It's sick, it's annoying, and I'm tired of it.
26:12
Speaker 1: And the ride up to Wexner's birthday wasn't just a
26:15
Speaker 1: one-off thing. Vlog show Dershowitz continued to fly on Epstein's plane,
26:19
Speaker 1: including an October 1998 flight from Massachusetts to New Jersey,
26:23
Speaker 1: and a 1999 trip from New Jersey to Martha's Vineyard.
26:27
Speaker 1: A 2005 jaunt from Massachusetts to Montreal shows Dershowitz traveled
26:31
Speaker 1: with Epstein, a woman named Tatiana, and others. Does that
26:35
Speaker 1: sound like somebody that just has a very basic relationship
26:38
Speaker 1: or somebody that only hangs out with Epstein amongst dignitaries
26:42
Speaker 1: and scientists? No. Sounds like somebody that's, you know, palling
26:46
Speaker 1: around with Jeffrey Epstein, someone who was a very good
26:48
Speaker 1: friend of Jeffrey Epstein, and somebody who was obviously hiding
26:52
Speaker 1: a whole lot and hiding... behind his reputation as the
26:55
Speaker 1: famed Alan Dershowitz. Well, that dog don't hunt here on
26:58
Speaker 1: the Jeffrey Epstein Show. I'm not buying it. Despite telling
27:03
Speaker 1: Gawker that he has a very clear, unequivocal recollection of
27:07
Speaker 1: never being on a plane with young women, he has
27:10
Speaker 1: a hard time explaining who the single-name females are who
27:13
Speaker 1: scatter the flight logs. He said he doesn't know who
27:16
Speaker 1: Hazel or Claire were, and that Tatiana may have been
27:19
Speaker 1: a 20-something woman who was friends with Epstein's girlfriend, but
27:22
Speaker 1: that he never flew with her. What do you mean
27:24
Speaker 1: his girlfriend? Jeffrey Epstein's girlfriend? Who was that? Who was that?
27:29
Speaker 1: Eva Anderson? Dubin's wife? Because besides her and Ghislaine Maxwell
27:35
Speaker 1: and one other lady from way back in the day,
27:37
Speaker 1: we've never heard anything about Epstein being, you know, locked
27:40
Speaker 1: up with a female. We've never heard anything like that.
27:44
Speaker 1: So what do they even mean, Epstein's girlfriend? Yeah, right.
27:47
Speaker 1: And he also finds it hard to explain why his
27:49
Speaker 1: wife doesn't appear to join him on the flights, who
27:51
Speaker 1: he publicly said accompanies him nearly everywhere in statements issued
27:56
Speaker 1: in the wake of the lawsuits. She travels with me
28:01
Speaker 1: all over. On occasion, she's working or travels separately. I
28:05
Speaker 1: travel with her almost all the time. Not all the time,
28:08
Speaker 1: he told Gawker. I have a very clear, unequivocal recollection
28:11
Speaker 1: that I was never on a plane with any young women, period. Yeah, right.
28:15
Speaker 1: The logs prove that you're on there with young women.
28:18
Speaker 1: Why are you lying about it? If you have nothing
28:20
Speaker 1: to hide, why is he lying about it? It should
28:24
Speaker 1: be noted, though, that flight records are kept by pilots
28:28
Speaker 1: mostly to keep time and could contain inaccuracy as to passengers.
28:32
Speaker 1: That's true. They definitely could. But Dershowitz so far has
28:36
Speaker 1: not come forward and disproved any of these claims. He's
28:40
Speaker 1: talked about it for five years, but he's shown zero proof, folks.
28:45
Speaker 1: Further discrediting Dershowitz's claim not to be close with Epstein
28:49
Speaker 1: is a Vanity Fair story from 2003 in which he
28:52
Speaker 1: says that he would stand by Epstein even if he
28:54
Speaker 1: filed for bankruptcy. Absolutely. I would be as interested in
28:59
Speaker 1: him as a friend if we had hamburgers on the
29:01
Speaker 1: boardwalk in Coney Island and talked about his ideas, he
29:04
Speaker 1: told the magazine. So in his own words, Dershowitz is
29:08
Speaker 1: saying that him and Epstein, no matter what, would have
29:11
Speaker 1: been homies. They would have been friends if Epstein was
29:13
Speaker 1: broke or if Epstein had a pile of dough. And
29:17
Speaker 1: There you go. He had a pile of dough and
29:18
Speaker 1: they were friends. All right. Look, let's be honest, okay?
29:22
Speaker 1: Dershowitz was very, very close to Jeffrey Epstein, despite what
29:27
Speaker 1: he's saying. The evidence does not support Dershowitz's statements in
29:33
Speaker 1: this case. I am sorry. He responded to the Vanity
29:37
Speaker 1: Fair quote, telling Gawker, he was a friend with whom
29:39
Speaker 1: I talked about ideas. We never discussed women or his
29:42
Speaker 1: social life. Well, that's easy to say. Nobody can prove differently, right?
29:45
Speaker 1: Nobody can say what you talked about in your private conversations.
29:48
Speaker 1: And that's not what this is about. Nice way. Nice. Nice.
29:50
Speaker 1: Try to deflect. But that's not going to work on me.
29:54
Speaker 1: Why were you enabling him, Mr. Dershowitz? Why were you
29:57
Speaker 1: hanging out with him, giving him credibility, and letting him
29:59
Speaker 1: slide into the higher crust and upper end of society?
30:02
Speaker 1: Why were you doing that? Also revealed in the flight
30:08
Speaker 1: logs was the fact that former President Clinton rode on
30:10
Speaker 1: Epstein's jet at least 11 times between 2002 to 2004,
30:14
Speaker 1: and was sometimes accompanied by Maxwell and Kellan. No allegations
30:19
Speaker 1: have been leveled at Clinton. His name has been mentioned
30:22
Speaker 1: in the recent scandal because he vacationed on Epstein's private
30:25
Speaker 1: island during the years when the sex crimes were thought
30:27
Speaker 1: to have occurred. Roberts maintains that she never saw Clinton
30:30
Speaker 1: do anything wrong or even appear to know about the
30:33
Speaker 1: underage girls. That's significant, folks. That is a significant statement.
30:37
Speaker 1: If we believe Virginia Roberts, and I do, then we
30:40
Speaker 1: have to take her at her word for what she
30:42
Speaker 1: says about Bill Clinton, right? If we're not being biased
30:45
Speaker 1: and we leave all that crap at the door, we
30:47
Speaker 1: leave our personal hatred of these people or dislike of
30:49
Speaker 1: these people at the door, we have to be fair
30:52
Speaker 1: with what we're doing here. And I have maintained that
30:55
Speaker 1: I try to be as fair as I possibly can
30:57
Speaker 1: be on this show. And I'm still unwilling to move
31:01
Speaker 1: Clinton into the same category as Dershowitz because... Well, we
31:05
Speaker 1: all understand that Bill Clinton was around, Bill Clinton was
31:09
Speaker 1: enabling him, but we also understand that what Dershowitz is
31:14
Speaker 1: being accused of here is on a whole different level.
31:19
Speaker 1: He appears to have flown on Epstein's flight with several
31:22
Speaker 1: curious women, including a young actress who used to work
31:25
Speaker 1: in softcore porn. Who cares about that? As long as
31:28
Speaker 1: she's of age, that's no one's business what somebody does
31:30
Speaker 1: in their private life. If somebody wants to be a
31:32
Speaker 1: porn star, that's fine. I do not care, okay? Clinton
31:36
Speaker 1: booked Epstein's jet for a 2002 anti-poverty and anti-AIDS tour
31:40
Speaker 1: of Africa with friends Chris Tucker, billionaire Ron Burkle, friend
31:44
Speaker 1: Gail Smith, and actor Kevin Spacey. Joining them for five
31:48
Speaker 1: days of the week-long tour were Maxwell, Kellen, and a
31:51
Speaker 1: woman identified as Shantae Davies. Davies is also one of
31:56
Speaker 1: some 160 women whose contact information he kept in a
31:59
Speaker 1: handful of cities across the world, all listed as masseuse.
32:03
Speaker 1: Though prosecutors believe some of the women on the list
32:05
Speaker 1: may have been underage, underage prostitutes? Again, that's not even
32:09
Speaker 1: a thing. How can you be underage and a prosecute?
32:12
Speaker 1: It makes me so mad when they write that. Davies
32:14
Speaker 1: was 23 at the time and has not been accused
32:16
Speaker 1: of any crime. Her LinkedIn page shows an expertise in
32:22
Speaker 1: Swedish massage. Well, we all know that Davies is now
32:26
Speaker 1: on record saying that she was also abused by Jeffrey Epstein.
32:29
Speaker 1: All right. So again, another young woman who comes into
32:33
Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein's orbit thinking that she's going to get some
32:36
Speaker 1: benefit out of it and ends up with a lifelong
32:38
Speaker 1: of trauma after being abused by this man. Sickening. It's
32:41
Speaker 1: absolutely sickening. Davies has since achieved some success as an
32:46
Speaker 1: actress with a role on HBO's Enlightened, but previously worked
32:49
Speaker 1: as a lingerie model in a film produced by a
32:51
Speaker 1: softcore porn company. Oh, who cares? She refused to comment
32:55
Speaker 1: when asked by Gawker what she did on the Africa trip.
32:58
Speaker 1: I really am not interested in being slandered in the
33:00
Speaker 1: media for having known this person a time ago. Some
33:04
Speaker 1: of the things being said are not things I have
33:05
Speaker 1: information on, Davies said. At Davos on Thursday, Prince Andrew
33:10
Speaker 1: made his first public appearance and refused to discuss the claims.
33:14
Speaker 1: The palace previously issued a denial on Prince Andrew's behalf.
33:17
Speaker 1: It is emphatically denied that the Duke of York had
33:20
Speaker 1: any form of sexual contact or relationship with Virginia Roberts,
33:24
Speaker 1: a spokesperson said. The allegations made are false and without
33:28
Speaker 1: any foundation. Roberts called the denial false and hurtful to me. Good,
33:32
Speaker 1: and the denial of Prince Andrew is the biggest canned
33:35
Speaker 1: piece of junk I've ever seen in my life. And
33:38
Speaker 1: looking back at this in retrospect now that we have
33:41
Speaker 1: five years of information that's come out on top of this,
33:44
Speaker 1: it just makes Buckingham Palace look even that more bad, right?
33:49
Speaker 1: Even that worse. They're just so, it was such a
33:52
Speaker 1: canned statement. It was like, there's no way that the
33:54
Speaker 1: Prince could be involved in this. I'm sure they didn't
33:56
Speaker 1: investigate it or anything. Following our most recent filing, a
34:00
Speaker 1: Buckingham Palace spokesman added this week, we have nothing to
34:03
Speaker 1: say in addition to our earlier comments on the issue.
34:07
Speaker 1: Roberts claimed she had sex with the prince, a former
34:10
Speaker 1: friend of Epstein, in New York, London, and the U.S.
34:13
Speaker 1: Virgin Islands while she was being sex trafficked. Buckingham Palace
34:20
Speaker 1: has denied all allegations. In the documents, she said her
34:23
Speaker 1: lawyers had served a letter on the Duke last week
34:26
Speaker 1: requesting he answer questions, but he refused to accept it.
34:31
Speaker 1: She also described the alleged abuse in new and startling detail.
34:36
Speaker 1: She claimed Prince Andrew correctly guessed she was just 17
34:39
Speaker 1: when he met her and how she was instructed to
34:41
Speaker 1: give him anything he wanted. His police bodyguards left her
34:46
Speaker 1: alone with him the first time they had sex, she said.
34:48
Speaker 1: That's significant in light of what we've heard now, the police,
34:52
Speaker 1: the logs, the security logs, and how they refused to
34:55
Speaker 1: release them. I think that little clip right there is very,
34:58
Speaker 1: very significant, folks, and I'm glad we stumbled across it.
35:01
Speaker 1: It is very significant to read that. The bodyguards left
35:04
Speaker 1: her alone with Andrew the first time that they had sex? Wow.
35:11
Speaker 1: Epstein made me have sex with Prince Andrew several times,
35:13
Speaker 1: she said. I had sex with him three times, including
35:16
Speaker 1: one orgy. I knew he was a member of the
35:18
Speaker 1: British royal family, but I just called him Andy. After
35:22
Speaker 1: they had sex, she was paid $ 15, 000, she said. Prince
35:25
Speaker 1: Andrew's decision to pursue legal action, he has the right
35:28
Speaker 1: to sue his accuser, will depend on whether the palace
35:30
Speaker 1: is willing to subject him to depositions about his private life. Yeah,
35:34
Speaker 1: we all know how that went, right? We all know
35:36
Speaker 1: that Prince Andrew ain't challenging nothing in court. That guy's
35:40
Speaker 1: crawled under a rock and he's in hiding at this point.
35:45
Speaker 1: Dershowitz has also filed a motion in federal court to
35:47
Speaker 1: enter in a lawsuit brought against the US government by
35:50
Speaker 1: his accuser and other women who say Epstein sexually abused them.
35:54
Speaker 1: The court has yet to decide whether to grant his motion.
35:57
Speaker 1: The two lawyers representing Jane Doe No. 3, former federal
36:01
Speaker 1: judge Paul Cassell, and Florida plaintiff's attorney Bradley Edwards have
36:05
Speaker 1: now filed counter defamation charges against Dershowitz. And as you know, folks,
36:10
Speaker 1: this is the case that's spinning through still. This is
36:13
Speaker 1: still the case that's spinning through the courts as we
36:15
Speaker 1: speak five years later. In an earlier article, he explained
36:19
Speaker 1: that this will subject them and their client to sworn depositions.
36:22
Speaker 1: If they repeat the charges under oath, and if they
36:24
Speaker 1: are untrue, they will be subject to prosecution for perjury.
36:29
Speaker 1: In a previous statement to DailyMail.com, Mr. Cassell said that
36:32
Speaker 1: he and Mr. Edwards would not be responding to specific
36:35
Speaker 1: claims of indignation by anyone. We have been informed by Mr.
36:40
Speaker 1: Dershowitz's threats based on the factual allegations we have made
36:43
Speaker 1: in our recent filing, he said in a statement. We
36:46
Speaker 1: carefully investigate all of the allegations in our pleadings before
36:50
Speaker 1: presenting them. We would be pleased to consider any sworn
36:53
Speaker 1: testimony and documentary evidence Mr. Dershowitz would like to provide,
36:57
Speaker 1: which he contends would refute any of our allegations. Well,
37:01
Speaker 1: he hasn't done any of that. Mr. Dershowitz sure hasn't
37:03
Speaker 1: shown any of that stuff, right? What he's done is
37:07
Speaker 1: he's used the court to his advantage. He's made it.
37:10
Speaker 1: It's this long, drawn-out process, and he hoped that everyone
37:13
Speaker 1: would forget about it, that it would be on the
37:15
Speaker 1: back burner. Finally, Dershowitz has also challenged his accuser to
37:19
Speaker 1: file formal rape charges against him. If she were to
37:22
Speaker 1: file a false rape charge, she would be committing a crime.
37:25
Speaker 1: She has not done so. It comes a week after
37:28
Speaker 1: Prince Andrew's ex-wife, Sarah Ferguson, slammed reports that he had
37:31
Speaker 1: sex with an underage girl as salacious lies and defended
37:35
Speaker 1: him as a humongously good man. In a passionate rebuttal
37:39
Speaker 1: on the Today Show last Tuesday, the Duchess of York
37:42
Speaker 1: said that she was standing by my best friend and
37:45
Speaker 1: my best ex-husband ever. My best ex-husband ever, huh? Amid
37:49
Speaker 1: the allegations. Boy, isn't that nice. Isn't that nice? His
37:52
Speaker 1: people stand behind him even though he was engaged in
37:55
Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein's trafficking ring. That loyalty is something else, huh?
38:01
Speaker 1: All right, folks, look, I don't even know what to
38:03
Speaker 1: say at this point. It's very discouraging to see Alan
38:06
Speaker 1: Dershowitz propped up into a position of prominence when all
38:11
Speaker 1: of this is swirling around him. And I thought it
38:13
Speaker 1: was fitting to use today's episode to give a little
38:16
Speaker 1: bit more background to folks who might not be completely
38:19
Speaker 1: locked into the situation with Dershowitz, a little bit more
38:22
Speaker 1: background for them to understand why this has me so
38:24
Speaker 1: fired up. It's just... unconscionable for me to think that
38:30
Speaker 1: this man can be defending, not Donald Trump, forget Donald Trump, folks,
38:34
Speaker 1: the office of the presidency. It's a stain on the
38:37
Speaker 1: office from here to whenever. It's a stain on the office,
38:42
Speaker 1: in my humble opinion. And there's a lot of people
38:44
Speaker 1: that don't agree with me. There's definitely a lot of
38:46
Speaker 1: people that don't agree with that. They, you know, and
38:48
Speaker 1: that's fine. We're allowed to disagree on certain things and
38:51
Speaker 1: we're allowed to disagree on, you know, our feelings on issues.
38:54
Speaker 1: But for me personally, it's beyond the pale to have
38:58
Speaker 1: Alan Dershowitz on your defense team when there are just
39:01
Speaker 1: as many capable lawyers that don't have this funk on them.
39:05
Speaker 1: And again, it's not like Dershowitz is being accused of
39:08
Speaker 1: petty theft here, folks, all right? What he's being accused
39:11
Speaker 1: of is beyond, beyond Gross, okay? So that's where I
39:18
Speaker 1: stand with this whole entire Dershowitz thing, and it's made
39:21
Speaker 1: me agitated all day, so I figured this would be
39:23
Speaker 1: the perfect time for a little bit more background on
39:26
Speaker 1: the situation. All right, folks, I hope that you all
39:29
Speaker 1: enjoy your Friday night. I will be back later on
39:32
Speaker 1: with a daily drop. And then tomorrow, you know what?
39:35
Speaker 1: Tomorrow I had so much fun today. I guess I'll
39:37
Speaker 1: be back again tomorrow so we can do it all
39:39
Speaker 1: over again. If you'd like to get in contact with me,
39:42
Speaker 1: you can do that at BobbyCapucci at ProtonMail.com. That's B-O-B-B-Y-C-A-P-U-C-C-I
39:49
Speaker 1: at ProtonMail.com. What's up everyone and welcome to another episode
39:54
Speaker 1: of the Epstein Chronicles. The situation over in the UK
40:00
Speaker 1: with Jeffrey Epstein and the new investigation that's been launched
40:05
Speaker 1: has already produced some results. Because now... authorities over in
40:10
Speaker 1: the UK are saying that evidence in the trafficking investigation
40:14
Speaker 1: into Epstein and the flights that were coming to the UK, well,
40:19
Speaker 1: that evidence has been destroyed. And it's just par for
40:23
Speaker 1: the course, isn't it? Every time we turn around, something's
40:27
Speaker 1: being lost, something's being deleted, someone's killing themselves, and it
40:32
Speaker 1: all ends up in the favor of Jeffrey Epstein and
40:35
Speaker 1: his friends. Nothing ever breaks the other way, does it?
40:40
Speaker 1: Never an unfortunate coincidence that leads us closer to answers.
40:45
Speaker 1: It's always the other way around. And that's because, in
40:48
Speaker 1: my opinion, they aren't coincidences. It's all in furtherance of
40:53
Speaker 1: the cover-up. And this cover-up's not just taking place here
40:56
Speaker 1: in the United States. Unfortunately, this shit's global. This man
41:01
Speaker 1: had tentacles that reached into just about every single country
41:05
Speaker 1: on every single continent. So you have to go everywhere
41:10
Speaker 1: he was at and you have to look at everything
41:12
Speaker 1: he was doing. And there's just not the will for it.
41:16
Speaker 1: Neither here in America or over in the UK. And
41:19
Speaker 1: the more we hear about evidence that's being destroyed, about
41:22
Speaker 1: things being misplaced, the more obvious it becomes, at least
41:25
Speaker 1: to me, that we're watching one of the biggest cover-ups
41:28
Speaker 1: in history play out in real time. And we've had
41:31
Speaker 1: plenty of times where they've pulled the rug out from
41:34
Speaker 1: under us. But in real time, like this? This is brazen.
41:40
Speaker 1: And they really think that we're stupid. That's what it
41:42
Speaker 1: comes down to. Either that we're too stupid or too
41:45
Speaker 1: occupied to hold them accountable. But I don't think they
41:48
Speaker 1: understand just how mad regular people are. And their usual
41:52
Speaker 1: tactics of calming people down, I don't think they're going
41:55
Speaker 1: to work this time. Today's article is from The Sun
42:01
Speaker 1: and the headline. Evidence in trafficking investigation into Jeffrey Epstein's
42:05
Speaker 1: Lolita Express flights to U.K., has been destroyed. They'll say
42:10
Speaker 1: it's protocol, right? Oh, well, we destroy those files every
42:13
Speaker 1: four years. And for them, that's the end of the conversation. Oh, look,
42:17
Speaker 1: that's protocol. That's what we did. Does anyone really believe that, though?
42:23
Speaker 1: You think the UK isn't keeping these records? I highly
42:26
Speaker 1: doubt that. We are talking about the UK here. This
42:30
Speaker 1: article was authored by John Rogers. Cops from the Metropolitan
42:35
Speaker 1: Police are thought to be investigating whether further victims of
42:39
Speaker 1: the pedophile financier were trafficked on his private jet into
42:43
Speaker 1: UK commercial airports as well as RAF bases, including Northolt
42:48
Speaker 1: and elsewhere. It's bad enough coming into these airports, right?
42:53
Speaker 1: Commercial airports. But to the RAF bases? Really? If I
42:57
Speaker 1: was a survivor and I was brought to an RAF
43:01
Speaker 1: base to be trafficked, I'd sue the UK government just
43:05
Speaker 1: like I'd sue the US government. You want to be negligent?
43:08
Speaker 1: You want to act the fool? Cool. Let's get in
43:11
Speaker 1: front of a jury and let's see what a jury thinks.
43:14
Speaker 1: Because I have a funny feeling it's not going to
43:16
Speaker 1: go the way that the government in the UK or
43:19
Speaker 1: the US thinks. Can you imagine the bag a jury
43:23
Speaker 1: would award somebody here? Especially with everything everybody knows now?
43:29
Speaker 1: So I think that's going to be the next step.
43:31
Speaker 1: We're going to see some class action suits going after governments.
43:35
Speaker 1: Former Prime Minister Gordon Brown has asked six police forces
43:39
Speaker 1: to investigate whether Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor used RAF bases to make
43:44
Speaker 1: trips that could be associated with Epstein. Oh, there's no
43:48
Speaker 1: doubt he did. The hard part, like usual, is proving
43:52
Speaker 1: that something illegal occurred, right? And to do that, you
43:56
Speaker 1: need records. But if the records are destroyed, makes it
44:00
Speaker 1: a bit difficult, doesn't it? Some of the flights date
44:04
Speaker 1: back as far as two decades ago. However, the RAF
44:08
Speaker 1: keeps passenger manifest for only three months before being destroyed. Oh,
44:12
Speaker 1: I'm sure that that's protocol. I'm sure that those documents
44:16
Speaker 1: didn't find their way into the hands of some MI6 operative.
44:20
Speaker 1: I'm positive that never happened. Other information, such as air
44:24
Speaker 1: traffic control movement sheets, which detail aircraft tail numbers or
44:28
Speaker 1: radio call signs, are kept for two years. Meanwhile, commercial
44:31
Speaker 1: airline manifests for UK carriers are generally only kept for
44:35
Speaker 1: six to seven years, the Civil Aviation Authority says. Well, look,
44:40
Speaker 1: there's one way to get to the bottom of all
44:42
Speaker 1: of it. Indict David Rogers and Larry Vesosky. You know
44:47
Speaker 1: the two pilots that were ferrying all these girls everywhere?
44:51
Speaker 1: Indict them. And once you threaten them with RICO, they'll flip.
44:55
Speaker 1: They'll tell you everything you want to know. But that's
44:59
Speaker 1: not the goal here, is it? Getting to the bottom
45:02
Speaker 1: of this has never been the goal, because if they
45:05
Speaker 1: wanted to, there is more than enough here for them
45:09
Speaker 1: to upend this whole entire thing and expose it from
45:12
Speaker 1: the ground up. While significant details of passenger manifests and
45:15
Speaker 1: flight logs can be found in the Epstein files, which
45:19
Speaker 1: were released by the U.S. Department of Justice, some are incomplete.
45:23
Speaker 1: The policy of destroying documents will mean it's harder for
45:26
Speaker 1: cops to fill in the missing details regarding who traveled
45:30
Speaker 1: into the country and when. So you got to get
45:33
Speaker 1: witness testimony and you have to have that corroborated by pilots.
45:38
Speaker 1: Other people that might have been on the flight, other
45:41
Speaker 1: Corps 4 members, Nadia Marcinkova, Sarah Kellan Vickers, Leslie Groff, whoever.
45:48
Speaker 1: And this is why you charge everybody with RICO. Because
45:51
Speaker 1: you make them flip on each other then, right? everybody's
45:53
Speaker 1: facing a sentence from now till forever, then they're all
45:57
Speaker 1: going to start flipping. Nobody wants to go to prison.
45:59
Speaker 1: Look at what Glenn Maxwell's doing, trying to get out.
46:05
Speaker 1: And if you want to take down a criminal enterprise,
46:08
Speaker 1: the way to do it is use RICO. But that
46:12
Speaker 1: was never the goal. And for me, that's one of
46:15
Speaker 1: the biggest problems. So when people are out here saying, oh,
46:18
Speaker 1: Epstein was never convicted of this or that or the
46:20
Speaker 1: other thing, Well, that's because it was all by design,
46:24
Speaker 1: because there's no way anybody can look at the evidence
46:27
Speaker 1: here and do it in an independent fashion and not
46:31
Speaker 1: come to the conclusion that there is something very, very
46:34
Speaker 1: wrong here. And even if you think the overall story
46:37
Speaker 1: is a little crazy, if you think that, you know,
46:41
Speaker 1: there's not this huge trafficking ring, how can you look
46:44
Speaker 1: at this and not understand that there is all kinds
46:47
Speaker 1: of financial crime occurring? Does that not matter? Is that
46:52
Speaker 1: not a big deal? Because I assure you, there are
46:54
Speaker 1: plenty of people that are rotting in prison who think
46:57
Speaker 1: it's a very, very big deal. And the way the
47:00
Speaker 1: government prosecutes people for financial crimes, you would think that
47:04
Speaker 1: they'd love to get their hands on these people. But
47:07
Speaker 1: they can't, right? Because if they did, they'd implicate their
47:11
Speaker 1: own donors. And we can't have that, can we? God
47:14
Speaker 1: forbid the people in the financial sector ever answer for
47:19
Speaker 1: anything they're involved in. Detectives may try to speak to
47:23
Speaker 1: airport staff and other officials in their hunt for information,
47:27
Speaker 1: according to the Times. Well, America should make Vysotsky available
47:32
Speaker 1: to them. Guys, when we went through that deposition, do
47:36
Speaker 1: you really believe that Vysotsky was telling the truth? Everything
47:40
Speaker 1: he was saying was a lie, in my opinion, and
47:42
Speaker 1: he's a lot closer to Jeffrey Epstein, or was, than
47:45
Speaker 1: just about anybody. So I don't believe for a second
47:49
Speaker 1: that Vysotsky told the truth. And I've always felt that
47:53
Speaker 1: he was part of the core. I think that him, Indite, Khan,
47:58
Speaker 1: and the core four especially should have all been charged
48:01
Speaker 1: under Rico. And then from there, obviously, you start going
48:04
Speaker 1: after other people. Once you get these people to flip,
48:08
Speaker 1: they're going to turn on other people. Oh, yeah, this
48:10
Speaker 1: one was there. Oh, that one did this. Oh, this
48:13
Speaker 1: one likes girls from Russia. And that's how it works.
48:18
Speaker 1: But that's why they didn't do it. And I hate
48:20
Speaker 1: to keep repeating it, but it's very important. One of
48:23
Speaker 1: the most important parts of this story. To understand what's
48:26
Speaker 1: going on now, you have to understand what happened then.
48:29
Speaker 1: And once you understand that, the rest of this starts
48:32
Speaker 1: to fall into place. Mountbatten-Windsor was arrested by Thames Valley
48:35
Speaker 1: Police on February 19th, the former prince's birthday, on suspicion
48:41
Speaker 1: of misconduct in public office after allegedly passing on confidential
48:45
Speaker 1: information to Epstein during his work as trade envoy. Meanwhile,
48:50
Speaker 1: Prince William said he was not calm enough at the
48:52
Speaker 1: moment to watch the film Hamnet when he attended the
48:56
Speaker 1: BAFTA Film Awards on Sunday night, along with his wife,
49:00
Speaker 1: Princess Cade. Well, yeah, this is his problem now. He's
49:03
Speaker 1: going to inherit this, and he's going to have to
49:05
Speaker 1: deal with it. And if William had his way, he'd
49:08
Speaker 1: be sending Andrew to a leper colony somewhere in the Arctic,
49:12
Speaker 1: as far away from the royal family as possible. That's
49:14
Speaker 1: the goal. Unfortunately, this day and age, that's not possible.
49:18
Speaker 1: But I promise you, William, he wants andrew to go
49:21
Speaker 1: to prison he doesn't want to deal with this so
49:23
Speaker 1: the best scenario for him is that andrew ends up
49:26
Speaker 1: in prison before he takes the reins because he doesn't
49:29
Speaker 1: want to deal with this nonsense i promise you that
49:32
Speaker 1: i mean it's bad enough when you have an uncle
49:34
Speaker 1: who's a drunken fool who ruins every single family event
49:38
Speaker 1: right Dude comes over, starts yapping, gets drunk, falls all
49:42
Speaker 1: over the place, you know, eats turkey with his hands
49:45
Speaker 1: on Thanksgiving, whatever it might be. And then you have
49:49
Speaker 1: Prince Andrew doing what he did. Makes you want to
49:52
Speaker 1: invite Uncle Insert Name here over for that turkey dinner,
49:56
Speaker 1: doesn't it? Much better than dealing with a diddler, with
50:00
Speaker 1: a predator, with a liar, with a money launderer. because
50:04
Speaker 1: that's exactly what Prince Andrew is alleged to be. So
50:07
Speaker 1: if you think you don't want to be around your
50:09
Speaker 1: uncle who causes the scene, what makes you think that
50:12
Speaker 1: Prince William wants to spend any time with his family's
50:14
Speaker 1: version of Uncle Eddie? The Prince of Wales did not
50:18
Speaker 1: otherwise comment on the scandal surrounding his uncle. A total
50:22
Speaker 1: of nine separate police forces are assessing claims relating to Epstein.
50:27
Speaker 1: Among them are the allegations he moved exploited girls through
50:30
Speaker 1: the UK. Gordon Brown has accused police of not properly
50:35
Speaker 1: investigating decades-old allegations and has said Mountbatten-Windsor should be interviewed.
50:41
Speaker 1: Is that asking too much? Again, I don't think anybody's
50:44
Speaker 1: calling for, you know, pulling Andrew out of the house
50:48
Speaker 1: and stringing him up. At least not me. Not anybody
50:51
Speaker 1: who's sane. But an investigation? A good, hard look at
50:57
Speaker 1: what happened here? That is more than necessary. The Met is...
51:02
Speaker 1: decided against a full-blown inquiry into Epstein in 2015, but Mr.
51:06
Speaker 1: Brown has called for the force to re-examine that decision,
51:10
Speaker 1: given that the email suggests a number of British girls
51:13
Speaker 1: were on Epstein's flights, organized from UK airports, using his
51:17
Speaker 1: private jet, nicknamed the Lolita Express. Well, there's no doubt
51:21
Speaker 1: girls from the UK were being abused, and certainly girls
51:25
Speaker 1: from other countries were being flown into the UK to
51:28
Speaker 1: be abused. Whether it was Virginia or those girls, without
51:33
Speaker 1: a name, from places like Russia, it was happening. Mr.
51:38
Speaker 1: Brown sent a five-page letter to police in London, Surrey, Sussex,
51:42
Speaker 1: Thames Valley, Norfolk, and Bedfordshire last week. He is thought
51:46
Speaker 1: to be concerned that Mountbatten-Windsor used chartered RFA flights to
51:51
Speaker 1: transport him to personal engagements that could have included Epstein,
51:55
Speaker 1: the former Labour Prime Minister, has also requested cops examine
51:59
Speaker 1: if Epstein was given access to RAF bases. It has
52:03
Speaker 1: been reported. The Met on Friday said it was aware
52:08
Speaker 1: of the suggestion that London airports may have been used
52:11
Speaker 1: and was assessing the information. Emails in the Epstein files
52:15
Speaker 1: reveal that the Met approached the Federal Bureau of Investigation
52:19
Speaker 1: in November for fresh details. Why didn't they just investigate previously?
52:25
Speaker 1: That's a question that needs to be asked. And this
52:28
Speaker 1: cover-up is not just in America. I'm telling you right now.
52:32
Speaker 1: There's big problems in the UK too. 100%. And it's
52:36
Speaker 1: not just Andrew. There's plenty of people that are up
52:39
Speaker 1: to no good. RAF Northolt is used by both military
52:46
Speaker 1: and civilian aircraft and is often used by members of
52:49
Speaker 1: the Royal Family for travel. The base is referenced in
52:53
Speaker 1: the Epstein files. On March 18, 2013, A private jet
52:58
Speaker 1: linked to Epstein arrived at the West London Air Base
53:01
Speaker 1: from Paris. The following day, it then left for Teterboro
53:05
Speaker 1: Airport in the U.S. Northolt and other RAF bases were
53:10
Speaker 1: used by Epstein's jet, according to flight logs. However, most
53:14
Speaker 1: of the travel was through airports including Stansted. A BBC
53:18
Speaker 1: investigation last year found that nearly 90 flights linked to
53:22
Speaker 1: Epstein had arrived or departed from U.K. airports between the
53:27
Speaker 1: early 90s and 2018. Three British women, who were allegedly trafficked,
53:32
Speaker 1: appear in the records. Scotland Yard is likely to examine
53:36
Speaker 1: private flight logs at Heathrow Airport to establish any connection
53:40
Speaker 1: with Epstein. Former Met Officer Graham Weddon told the Times,
53:45
Speaker 1: My understanding is that there is a VIP suite at Heathrow,
53:49
Speaker 1: which has a dedicated police team. As a port of
53:52
Speaker 1: entry and exit, there's a responsibility to document everyone who
53:56
Speaker 1: passes through. He added that the general rule in policing
54:00
Speaker 1: was that most records are kept for seven years, although
54:03
Speaker 1: he said some documents were kept for longer if they
54:06
Speaker 1: had referenced in a criminal or civil case. Mr. Watone
54:10
Speaker 1: said the apparent destruction of RAF and commercial flight records
54:14
Speaker 1: isn't helpful to the investigation. Yeah, no shit. Not helpful,
54:20
Speaker 1: but expected. He said that these documents would allow the
54:23
Speaker 1: Met to easily see who was on the flight, its
54:26
Speaker 1: departure time, and its return time. If they do not
54:29
Speaker 1: have these records, it's difficult to prove. That's true too.
54:33
Speaker 1: Without the records, how do you prove it? Besides doing
54:36
Speaker 1: everything I talked about previously, a Ministry of Defense spokesperson
54:40
Speaker 1: said it's standard practice for spare capacity at RAF airfields
54:45
Speaker 1: in the UK to be used for private commercial aircraft.
54:49
Speaker 1: subject to regulatory requirements and fees which cover all costs.
54:55
Speaker 1: Such use is not automatic and will only be approved
54:58
Speaker 1: when there is no adverse impact to military aircraft and
55:01
Speaker 1: where approval would not interfere with security or smooth running
55:05
Speaker 1: of the airfield. The Sun Online has approached the Met
55:08
Speaker 1: Police for comment. So this is a very interesting turn
55:13
Speaker 1: and I think the investigation is certainly expanding to In
55:16
Speaker 1: the UK. And that doesn't just mean. Into Prince Andrew.
55:20
Speaker 1: But I'm talking about Epstein in general. So we'll keep
55:23
Speaker 1: an eye on this one as well. And we'll see
55:25
Speaker 1: what comes of it. As the UK. Begins to expand
55:29
Speaker 1: its investigation. Into Jeffrey Epstein. And his alleged crimes. On
55:34
Speaker 1: UK soil. All of the information that goes with this episode.
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