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Back to Me: Solo Deep-Dive Review & Darth Maul Cameo Controversy · Multiple Nerdgasm

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  so should I just come straight out with a spoiler or should I ease into it you
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  can list the people that died I guess that's uh that's a given should we warn
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  people first this might be someone's first episode of the show and I don't
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  want to scare them off welcome to multiple
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  nerdgasm with your hosts Matt Luke and
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  Dan multiple nerdgasm your guide to All
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  Things nerdy this is going to be a pretty heavy
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  solo spoiler episode I think yeahhh because it it'll be two weeks our
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  rule is two weeks two weeks since the movie's out mhm so and and look we want
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  to give this a thorough review and in order to do that we're going to need to
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  talk about some things that you're going to probably count as spoilers so if you
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  haven't if you haven't watched solo yet even if we tried not to luk could
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  [ __ ] spurt something out anyway yeah so um pause and Peep you have there you
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  go told you we might as well talk about Darth Maul we have to talk about Darth
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  Maul all right so where do we
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  start phant can I can I start by saying I have never watched an episode of uh
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  the cartoon series so I just thought Darth Maul died when he died in the
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  movies and so I immediately started
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  going how [ __ ] old is Han
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  Solo if he was 20 when Darth Vader was nine
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  yeah I've never seen Javy bird man hopefully this will do just a joke
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  related to a jingle I've never seen an episode of uh I don't think I've seen Clone Wars
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  or Rebels I haven't seen either watch a few of the Clone Wars Episodes they're
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  good to have on in the background but I never got up to the part where Darth
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  Maul comes back to life I tried to watch one when I was doing the uh come back to
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  life technically he just never died he does he died I um he was cut it half and fell
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  down a bottomless pit he's I'll stop you there mad I did see him get cut in half
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  no I know I agree and I knew that he came back in the series because I had
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  seen stuff about it online and thought well that's weird cuz he comes back with
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  spider legs like metallic spider legs at the bottom and then at some point he gets
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  just that doesn't sound good that just sounds stupid and then later on he gets just
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  robot normal legs which is what he has they already did Grievous who has many
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  many robot arms and that should have been good but it wasn't it was [ __ ]
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  apparently like I say the TV series is actually quite good he actually becomes
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  an interesting character with a bunch of stuff going on and and people who are
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  fans of that are actually somewhat excited that he might show up again so
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  well fans of the show I I think a lot of people have a lot of in-depth charact
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  work in that show Obi-Wan apparently has you know this whole romance and
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  everything that we don't know about I tried to watch the series but it really
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  is for kids yeah it's it's definitely not for us I watched the movie The Clone
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  Wars movie that they made and I was just like n no it was like the lead into the
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  series and I just not not for me but I've heard that it's very good this the
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  show and yeah and people online were saying cuz someone was like oh why the
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  [ __ ] did you why the [ __ ] they bring back Darth Maul and someone was like
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  because he looks cool he was a cool character in theory but then he was just
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  done [ __ ] in the Phantom Menace so why not why not give him it was nice that
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  they brought Ray Park back to do it yeah yes he looked uh a little bit worse for
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  wear though yeah he's aged quite a bit I love the fact that they're like okay
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  it's Darth Maul a lot of people might not know it's Darth Maul so let's have
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  him just light up his lightsaber for no reason yeah even though Holograms are
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  always blue not this time this one's got some just as well this one can do red
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  red yeah even though his face is not red I don't remember just been for the
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  people who who didn't know it was South like I knew it was more the second I saw
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  the legs yeah I knew I knew as soon as I him I was like legs cuz I was like what
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  no because up until that I had really
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  enjoyed everything in this film I still
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  cannot believe look I I don't I don't I didn't dislike that it was unnecessary
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  and I assume it's just sets up either a TV series or another film possibly the W
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  film uh or possibly just a sequel to this
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  but I don't know it was just came out of [ __ ] nowhere and just confused the
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  [ __ ] out of me yeah it didn't need to be there at
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  all no I I feel like it unnecessary and it and it creates even more of this
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  stupid everybody knows everybody I know because now it's like
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  oh Darth Maul yeah you know him from a completely unrelated story
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  well Hano
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  whoes totallys himfriend and hang out yeah it doesn't make any sense it's it's
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  they're in a giant [ __ ] Galaxy pres like that's what we've been led to
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  believe but somehow yeah no they all know each other at least they weren't related this
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  time because H should be a Nobody Until yeah A New Hope basically because
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  he's talking himself up at the start he's like he's he's nobody
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  mhm and then yeah but no he already knows the Rebellion he already knows
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  Darth Moore anyway we we jum a little bit ahead there all sorts of stuff that
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  like really [ __ ] that around too like you know in the in
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  the in the start of a new hope when somebody asked Luke's where he's from
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  and he said if there's there's a furthest point from the center of the
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  universe that's where I'm from or actually you have a huge cartel uh run
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  by the Huts that's famous all over the gy everybody's been
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  toing yeah so much [ __ ] happens there yeah most of the stuff that happens in
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  the Star Wars happens on T yeah happened about 30 years ago read your
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  history yeah silly look um I don't want to spend the entire episode talking
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  about solo um because I do want to get to the fish vagina but before we do uh
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  now that we can be a little bit more specific um what did we like and dislike about
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  it one thing I was the dice okay I felt like it was a little we
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  beaten over the head with them a little bit towards the start and then they
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  didn't really go anywhere exactly yeah but I didn't mind
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  that because I kind of thought the whole thing was going to revolve around those
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  dice because it been so much [ __ ] and then they're like no guess what it's
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  got nothing to do with it he's just uh had him in his pocket yeah it's just
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  sort of weird cuz he they make a point of at the beginning of the show he's
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  steal beginning of the move he's stealing a hover car and he puts the
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  dice the thing it shows you the dice like a bunch of times and then cuz we're
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  watching that scene at the start and it kept showing the dice and Jenna goes did
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  you did you notice the dice Jesus look I wouldn't be surprised if Luke's theory
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  is correct and that originally there was an extra scene at the start where Han
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  was a kid stealing his first car and they were on the windshield of the first
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  car and he kept them and now he always uses them for luck yeah cuz that that
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  would be a thing not just cuz yeah he uses the dice twice and he hands her
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  over to hers good luck then they're not mentioned to the very end where she
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  hands back for luck and that's it y yeah I agree it just didn't really go it
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  didn't warrant the the fuss that they made at the start and it's not like it
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  sound it's going to sound silly because it's not like they they weren't like
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  talking about them and it's just that they showed them so much that you felt
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  like they should be important close up I think it might have been that it started
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  off that the first thing he stole might have even been something that his dad
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  gave him yeah but then mention his dad later on then went ah but he's no one
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  don't worry about it here's something that just his dad gave him dice but not a last
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  name couldn't afford one yeah well dice then I guess here's something that
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  popped into M though just now what if yeah you had not seen any other Star
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  Wars films M you would need to be sort of introduced to the dice we know about
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  them because we've been [ __ ] worried about the fact that he was going to use
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  them to win the Millennium Falcon for like two years but the thing maybe
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  that's why we were so focused on them maybe that's why we were so focused on
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  them early on yeah and maybe otherwise they were just like H people are going
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  to wonder what the [ __ ] he's giving her for luck we should just show him a
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  couple times maybe it's maybe it's just that they don't need to be in it at all
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  if that's the case though no you're right sorry what am I doing I don't need
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  to be reasonable about this it's fine they're not
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  rais doesn't know what he's doing no being fous well speaking of Ron Howard
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  we've all been assuming that Ron Howard came in to fix up solo because lloy and
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  Miller had made it too wacky but uh La casden has come out now and said no no
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  no it's the total opposite they made it so [ __ ] dark that they were worried
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  it wasn't going to fit in with the uh the light-hearted Star Wars movies that
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  surrounded so that's why they brought in Ron Howard to family fire a little bit
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  and I read an interview with Amelia Clark the other day and she said that uh
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  she was that the actors were having a lot of trouble and then she said
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  specifically she said that the the the previous directing team needed to stop
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  just telling her that she was film Noir and give her some actual Direction
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  because that's not Direction and then I was like the same interview yeah and
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  then Ron Howard came in took everybody individually out for lunch talked with
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  them about the character and she said it was just a completely different
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  experience like it was exactly I think possibly they focused on tone influence
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  it just jumps a lot and I still Ron Howard is everywhere at the moment in my
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  life because he's in Arrested Development season five so much that I'm
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  just like he's he's in it yeah he's yeah he's in it in it this time yeah so I'm
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  just [ __ ] I'm I'm on Ron how it overload Okay so
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  what's one thing that Matt you liked or
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  didn't like um I've got lots I [ __ ]
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  loved the score and I've been listening to it a lot and I really feel like maybe
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  that played a big part in my enjoyment of the film it's really good John
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  Williams did one piece of music for it it's the the main theme Hans like The
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  Adventures of Han Solo he did that and John Powell did the rest but some of my
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  favorite stuff is just the John Powell stuff is like you know the Marauders
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  theme that weird choir [ __ ] it's so good
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  and it's it just it's so star warsy in in other parts and then there's that
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  sequence when they're in the doing the Kastle run sequence when they're in the
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  the mo or whatever it is and it's the it's like a like a montage of all of the
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  music that Han's been involved with that not except for the Han and Leia theme
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  because that wouldn't make sense but it's got the [ __ ] asteroid field it's
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  got the [ __ ] like it's just so
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  good so I loved it I really I love that too in fact it was one of the few films
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  recently where the score stood out in that way that back in the 80s scores
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  always tried to stand out yeah it I I loved it and I think maybe that's and
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  I'm glad that it's a Star Wars film cuz otherwise you wouldn't get that kind of
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  a score for a film like this yeah that's right absolutely I just love all the
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  jokes about The [Laughter]
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  Capes I did that did you see that little uh article about how George Lucas added
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  that touch in the closet no and I I was watching for it and I was like you know
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  what George is not you know George is he's still got something so there's that
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  scene where Han is with Kira in the cape closet right and she's playing with the
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  cape and they're talking and then she tries the cape on and then she goes to
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  start trying to put it back on the hanger and put it back up right and
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  originally they shoo in the scene and she puts it on the hanger she puts it
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  back up and George Lucas goes Han wouldn't wouldn't let her be distracted
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  like that he would just grab the cape and throw it on the ground and and then
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  when you watch the scene she goes to put it back on the hanger and he he just
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  grabs it and and then's like no like kind of pay attention to me and then
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  just puts wow that is that's a nice touch yeah George has still got it he
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  does and he doesn't I know being a little phys he he half understands his own characters
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  yeah but I was like you know what that's that was a nice touch yeah all right for
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  a man who says yeah back to me
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  mhm yep let's get through this laundry list of Lukes yeah
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  yeah you just rattled it down and we'll tell you why you're incorrect yeah
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  shucker was going to eat hard no he wasn't no they just thought that he was
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  because he was a big beast and they didn't understand no they made a point
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  say they were going to feed it to him to him and then he also hadn't eaten for
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  three days they said throw him in with the Beast I don't think any I you I
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  might be wrong about this but I don't think there was any implication that he
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  was eating anybody cuz I actually didn't even think of that until you said it and
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  when you say when you say a dog hasn't eaten for 3 days you know it's it's so
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  that they're mean not so that they eat you no no they mean and then they eat
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  you yeah I look I don't know but I don't think I mean also we know that he rips
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  people's arms off like is it if he's desperate for food what's the problem
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  like I thought he was going to rip someone's arms off playing chess I
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  thought that's what they were going to put in so that it may that in a new hope
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  he's being very very specific he did rip someone's arm off in the elevator he
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  ripped a guy's arm off yeah but not not not playing chess oh playing chess right
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  yeah or you know what you guys probably know what that [ __ ] game's called
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  it's probably got its own name oh iess yeah that's what I've always called
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  it h chess battle chess remember battle chess that was a great remember starw
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  Wars battle chest oh God yeah of course I just love battle chess yeah battle
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  chess was great yeah look I don't I don't know that he was eating them I
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  don't know that that was implied I just really got that feeling that yeah he was
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  they basically had chewbaca there to eat people why else was he there essentially
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  your problem is that Chewbacca would eat a human being but not a por
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  well yeah well it's not that he's he's not eating bad people as
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  such he's eating like people who are going I don't want to fight this war
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  anymore and I'm deserting yeah but he doesn't necessarily know that he just
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  got locked in he's not taking his side I do question what the [ __ ] he was
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  doing there like yeah they weren't on casik why is he there no they weren't I
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  forget what planet there on wasn't Kik yeah but I think he must have just he
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  must have been a traveler or a prisoner of war or something and ended up just in
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  the crossfire and then they saw him and assumed he was like a a hideous beast
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  and figured they could use him as a torture device captured him and put him
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  in a hole and then um Han can actually speak wook yeah I was going to say on
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  that like it was a way of them having a conversation that the guards couldn't
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  hear so I get it but it was I was like oh God no no no but do never do that
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  again Han can clearly speak wook he talks to chewbaca all the time
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  yeah so I think this addressed the elephant in the room there's a
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  difference between talking it and understanding it yeah but that's what I
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  mean he can do both yeah but should he yeah no no no I agree I I I agree only
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  on the grounds that it was it sounds stupid yeah and it did but otherwise it
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  makes perfect sense because they needed I laughed but I was like oh man Matt and
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  Luke are going to hate this no no I didn't I didn't I didn't because I
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  understand the point of it like he needed to talk to him so the guards
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  couldn't hear and it's like well that's a bit [ __ ] but fine and also it
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  establishes the fact that yeah he he does no wook because they never out say
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  it he just he's the only one who understands him kind of thing MH yeah that's
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  right I also what I didn't understand cuz basically Han ended up in that
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  predicament cuz Becket said dis gu theorder take him away yeah so Becket
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  was trying to get rid of him Han still wanted to go back to him after
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  that yeah cuz he knew it was the only way off yeah yeah
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  but he just nearly had him killed yeah
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  and yet still his best option people people behave that way I
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  think I think people I think that's uh I don't think that's unrealistic like he
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  he wanted to get out of the uh of the military presumably cuz he wanted to be
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  a pilot they kicked him out oh yeah apparently there's a deleted scene um
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  that the casan show it yeah the casan uh uh have cameos in that scene because
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  they said that they figured that was the scene they were least likely to cut
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  because it explains some of the piloting stuff and then they cut it so there's a
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  scene of of Han at the Imperial Academy doing Flight Training that's funny
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  because I actually thought it was a hilarious joke that he's like I'm going
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  to be a pilot he's like are you sure man everyone ends up in the Infantry he's
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  like yeah I'm sure I'm going to be a [ __ ] P to him in the Infantry like it
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  was great maybe that's why they edited it that way in the end but then yeah
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  yeah then how do you learn to fly oh he just he just knows how to do
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  everything he is the best at everything G that is that is one thing that happen
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  I mean look it's a movie so whatever but he just they like he just is the best at
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  everything and they just cut to the end so that you didn't have to figure out
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  how that he did it like with the gambling it's like he just sits down and
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  it's like cut to two he just is very good all right all right something I
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  liked about the movie then please go on Lando yeah
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  y absolutely amazing yeah I um I did think it was
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  odd well not odd I just like Donald
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  Glover doing a Lando impression alen and
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  Ron whatever his name is not doing a Han Solo impression just doing something a
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  bit different yeah like I thought Donald Glover could
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  have gotten away with doing Lando a bit different if he wanted
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  to yeah because it wasn't it wasn't a an impersonation movie yeah but I guess
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  maybe he just didn't want to but and he did a great job I just yeah that's just
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  I want a standalone Lando movie you'll probably no I don't I don't
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  no I don't because Lando is the side character he's the best side character
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  and not everyone needs their own movie no but you know what I found out you
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  know how we talked a little while ago about Anthony in gruba who played young
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  Han Solo in uh some shitty romcom called the age of Adeline and he he looks
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  exactly like him and everyone was like well why didn't he play him apparently
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  he did audition um and while he can do a good impersonation of Harrison um he
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  aged a bit he just couldn't no it was just more that he couldn't nail the
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  comedy I think right you know he just he looks like him and he sounds like him
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  but he's not necessarily a better actor than yeah because I'll say like yeah he
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  doesn't he's not doing an impression of Han Solo but I [ __ ] liked him in in
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  Solo alen [ __ ] I lik him too yeah I thought he was good I like that one one
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  of my favorite Mo like I actually genuinely laughed when you know the the
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  Marauders are there at the end and he goes he's like on that ship we've got 20
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  armed soldiers and then takes off like I thought that was all really good yeah
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  like I forgot that he wasn't Han Solo and he just kind of became Han Solo you
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  know what I mean yeah yeah oh just han han no friends Han Solo
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  that scene was dumb I didn't need that you know that's the scene apparently
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  that got this whole film green lit yeah I read that they loved that they like
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  solo is not even his name he just got on a Plane by himself yeah and that's how
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  they wrote him in the ship's log and then they were like yep make this movie
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  like I I didn't need that scene at all to be honest you know what I loved about
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  that scene is the fact that not everyone in the Empire is fighting by Darth
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  Vader's side some people are on shitty planets at train stations trying to sign
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  up people that whole sequence bribe the the woman to get through the gate and
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  everything like it added like a human aspect to the Empire that I liked yeah
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  like yeah she'll take the bribe I did find it a little bit silly though that
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  there's alert someone just snuck in and then they just let this guy join who
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  doesn't have a last name I think no identification know someone's just broken past the
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  barcode yeah but they I'm pretty sure they just
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  told you take anyone who comes up
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  yeah um yeah I like that what I like about Star Wars now as opposed to Star
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  Wars then I.E in the 80s is that Stormtroopers and Imperials and everyone
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  are real people now yeah they don't just you
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  know like in in A New Hope the only any
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  time uh that storm tropers do anything against what you think they're going to
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  do is Jedi mind trick right whereas in
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  um the fort awakens when [ __ ] Carlo Ren's going ape [ __ ] with his lightsaber
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  and there was those two that just decide not to go down that path like I was like
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  yes they are human beings not just about a brother and sister what else you got
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  on that list Luke um the vampires I don't think they were vampires but fair
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  enough were vampires who you talking what makes you think they were vampires
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  they didn't What whose blood did they suck well I didn't see them suck any
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  blood but when hard gets captured and then he smashes the window oh yeah that
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  photophobic worm yeah yeah I'm happy with an underground slug not being able to stand
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  sunlight and then I actually thought that her second in command was the
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  leader of the rebels chasing them for half the movie oh the Marauders not
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  joking the Marauders yeah I actually thought that was
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  yeah the guy from the start of the movie okay that's you know that's fair I I do
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  recall they looked similar and I thought at the beginning that was that character
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  but then I kind of forgot yeah I get what you mean similar cuz it sort of had
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  the same sort of helmet and then it did look a little bit different but it was
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  also like 3 years later and I'm thinking yeah it's just changed a bit so yeah
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  they're still and then I found out no it wasn't H that confused me a little bit what did
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  you think of the train H why they made that so similar
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  um you know what it reminded me of firefly oh yeah yeah I can see that
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  that's that's fair I wonder why the Empire needs to transport things on a
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  train um when they have quite a lot of spaceships but also I thought it was
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  odd I thought about it later and I was like H like later on it does make a bit
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  more sense but at the time within the context of that scene I thought it was
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  it was really weird that Tandy Newton [ __ ] sacrificed herself for some
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  money not for her for Becket like she sacrifices her life so
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  that he can make money off the the fuel but then I guess later on you find it's
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  not just making money it's paying off his debts yeah yeah later on you find
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  that out and I I was thinking oh okay yeah it does make a bit more sense but
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  yeah but with but when you're watching the scene I was like wait what the [ __ ]
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  is she doing like that doesn't make any sense their little offsider the dude
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  with the forearms is my new favorite character and I'm that's John favro I
• 24:38
  know I know um okay one more thing all right and then I'll leave it hyper fuel
• 24:44
  about it it's not called that in the film they only say that in the intro I
• 24:48
  know but just having that in the intro just made me put my head in my hands in
• 24:52
  yeah but the intros are always bad it's to explain to the audience what it is
• 24:57
  when they say a [ __ ] whatever it's called oxycodone or whatever they call it in the
• 25:03
  film oxycodone it's called Ox something isn't
• 25:07
  it no I know what I know that I couldn't remember the name of it
• 25:13
  in the film it's called o something I'm trying to remember myself
• 25:18
  I thought I start with G somehow um maybe anyway it's it's yeah
• 25:25
  it's just to explain to the audience what it is yeah it was dumb but like it
• 25:28
  it's it's one word that explains it hyper fuel it's the fuel they use to for
• 25:33
  the hyperdrives like if if you were wondering that's what it is that's what
• 25:40
  it is yeah I wasn't wondering it's because you didn't know about it they
• 25:45
  will make a sequel well that is a good question left it open for one yeah
• 25:50
  except it has not done well at the box office well not as well as it
• 25:54
  anticipated it it's not like I mean it's the lowest rating Star Wars movie ever
• 25:58
  but I mean don't forget it's still [ __ ] kicking it yeah exactly it's
• 26:02
  it's doing fine but not Gang Busters yeah it's already made its money back so
• 26:08
  they they're they're fine there but I hope they do I would like to see
• 26:12
  more I I enjoyed this so much more than the Last Jedi if they do make the sequel
• 26:19
  is it's going to be have ma Darth Maul that's how it sort of ended
• 26:26
  introducing him I know and it was almost the first Star Wars movie that didn't
• 26:30
  have a lightsaber in it and I could have that would have been all right with me I
• 26:33
  could have I could have accepted that and been happy but yeah you're right they'll
• 26:40
  probably yeah well in the next one we're going to see how he meets Jaa The
• 26:45
  Heart if they make it if they make it it's already they already set it up
• 26:49
  that's what's that's what's happening yeah he's off to the Huts oh Paul betney
• 26:53
  was good in this but as well oh man Paul
• 26:56
  betney was as good a villain um as Peter
• 27:00
  Cushing right yeah cuz he was a real character he wasn't just a [ __ ] like
• 27:06
  uh you know I'm just an evil man he he
• 27:09
  was like had stuff going on yeah
• 27:16
  good yeah they probably will make a sequel I hope they do and I hope it
• 27:19
  doesn't have Darth Maul in it uh or Kira to be honest I could do without her
• 27:24
  being in it again um yeah we don't I mean not that he can still
• 27:31
  have like love interests I just don't more Indiana Jones style than than just
• 27:37
  a recurring love interest cuz he meets Leia later I didn't mind her but I
• 27:42
  actually would have been happier if she had have died I just feel like it's that sounds
• 27:47
  mean a thing to say I don't need Han Solo to have a love interest the love of
• 27:53
  his life who then just doesn't get mentioned again later like she needs to
• 27:57
  not be too involved from now on otherwise it's going to be weird I want
• 28:00
  them to edit scenes into um Return of the Jedi where um he's thinking about's
• 28:04
  getting like [ __ ] jealous and she's like [ __ ] thinking of Kira again
• 28:08
  aren't you he's like no I should never have even told you about her this going
• 28:13
  to add IM she was all right in this she's just all right in general yeah
• 28:17
  she's just all right yeah yeah she's fine I thought she was I thought she was
• 28:21
  good in it I wouldn't say good she was fine enjoyed her I enjoyed her in it oh
• 28:27
  I enjoyed her I thought I actually did think that the um the becket's team like
• 28:31
  tny Newton and and John favro character all they were all really good actually
• 28:35
  I'm I'm yeah agreed like I did think it would have been good with more of them
• 28:39
  but you know I get the plot requ I also enjoy the fact that they um they
• 28:44
  introduce characters just to be killed I mean it's a war it's the Star Wars good
• 28:49
  point I might like it when I see it a second time I haven't seen it a second
• 28:53
  time yet that's just not how I feel about Last Jedi look even though I've
• 28:56
  gone back and watched last Jedi again and have enjoyed it far more than I did
• 29:00
  the first time around I still enjoyed solo so much more I just as I've said
• 29:06
  before just give me my movie with bothans dying and I'll be
• 29:10
  happy got to murder some bothans in a film and looks look good to
• 29:14
  go don't don't I don't want a Boba Fett I don't want an Obi-Wan movie no no the
• 29:20
  Bob Fett want to be [ __ ] as well they
• 29:23
  don't need like no they don't need it
• 29:27
  that's the thing about this film that I I I enjoyed the film quite a lot but it
• 29:32
  could also just not have been about Han Solo it could have been about anybody
• 29:35
  else like same plot anybody else and I still would have enjoyed it like it
• 29:39
  didn't yes I need Han solos the movie it turned out that it was good but it
• 29:43
  didn't need to be no actually I think because it was Han Solo is the what
• 29:47
  reason why I'm not liking it at the moment if it hadn't been anyone else I
• 29:50
  would have enjoyed it but this kind of this kind of film I want more of this
• 29:55
  this style of Star Wars film
• 30:00
  yeah but they don't know everybody needs to know everybody doesn't all we don't
• 30:04
  need to like [ __ ] Boba Fett is nobody he's a nobody character I don't need a
• 30:08
  film about him like no God he shouldn't have been in the prequels he should have
• 30:13
  just been in Empire and return the J and the Star Wars stop it you know how we
• 30:17
  did discuss though uh whether or not they'll make him a New Zealander in uh
• 30:22
  if they do a stone film I realize they absolutely will because not only Boba
• 30:26
  Fett but all clone troopers have New Zealand Accents in the cartoon series oh
• 30:32
  yes they do yeah and it seems like they're keeping they're keeping to that
• 30:37
  Cannon so there you go although I wonder and then I mean this could just be a JJ
• 30:41
  ABS ISM but Ben FN 2187 like that's his
• 30:47
  name does it mean he's a clone cuz who the [ __ ] named somebody
• 30:51
  that no that was they basically took all those Storm Troopers children just
• 30:58
  raised them so they took away their name and just gave them designations okay so
• 31:02
  he just does he just never had a name cuz I was like even if he he had a name
• 31:06
  but when he was taken from his children from his parents he was they never used
• 31:09
  it like so I'm saying is he must not know what it was otherwise he would just
• 31:14
  use it correct yeah he'd be like actually I used to be called Frank do
• 31:17
  you mind just call me Frank now exactly no but he doesn't know his name he never
• 31:20
  knew yeah okay fair enough a lot of people with no names and then a lot of
• 31:24
  people with names they really shouldn't have but we've talked about that yeah
• 31:30
  yep now honest to God if I'd never seen a Star Wars movie I Didn't Know Who Han
• 31:34
  Solo was I still would have watched this movie and G [ __ ] yeah this is what
• 31:38
  movies are for yeah I enjoyed it a lot I don't know really hope that they maybe
• 31:45
  look at how Rogue one did and then look at this and then maybe focus more on
• 31:51
  those Standalone that although at the end of the movie
• 31:54
  that did lead into a New Hope except for T and Darth Vader I did want to I want
• 32:00
  to say briefly that um the film has been criticized uh for being
• 32:06
  dark uh including by really some some some I guess film critics that I am a
• 32:12
  big fan of and I was like really cuz I thought it was beautiful like I thought
• 32:16
  it was really well shot oh man at the start I was like [ __ ] me I'm watching
• 32:20
  Star Wars and Blade Runner at the same time right I thought it was really well
• 32:24
  done and apparently it is very dark though
• 32:28
  like I guess so if you don't see it in a cinema with a good projector or if you
• 32:34
  or the you know the the teenager running the projector doesn't do his job
• 32:38
  properly and sets the you know if it's not set up correctly it's very dark and
• 32:43
  apparently it looks like [ __ ] if it's not bright enough because it it is dark
• 32:49
  but it's well shot dark is but unless the projector is set up wrong in which
• 32:55
  case it doesn't look very good yeah but to me that's the whole IDE IDE of the
• 32:58
  move like he's coming from the slums then he's in a war that's yeah basically
• 33:03
  man that war footage was beautiful that's what exactly but then I've seen
• 33:07
  screenshots where people like adjusted brightness and they're like oh it looked
• 33:11
  like this and I'm like uh okay like that's just the projections [ __ ] like
• 33:15
  cuz yeah I thought it looked really good that's not really anybody in the film's
• 33:18
  fault no because you could say that if your projector is too low contrast
• 33:23
  you're not going to see anything about literally any movie yeah CU I had no
• 33:28
  issues like seeing what was going on but the people are complaining about a lot
• 33:32
  of that where it's just like looking at Mud so so if you uh experienced that
• 33:38
  listeners uh maybe you're go see it again somewhere better yeah yeah pay the
• 33:43
  money and go to a multiplex and right in let us know you next week right in let
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• 33:59
  we've had people right in recently tell me I was wrong about the Last Jedi which is
• 34:05
  incorrect I'm not wrong listener feedback today sharing
• 34:10
  with us a uh a photograph of uh shy abuff playing his own father in the shy
• 34:15
  abff biopic yeah so thanks thanks for sending that in thanks Dy and uh I I did
• 34:22
  I got clearance to uh to to name Nigel who sent in okay uh his critique of our
• 34:28
  critique of the last gu telling us to just get the [ __ ] over it well I'd like
• 34:33
  to say Nigel I did I did get over it I
• 34:37
  have not gotten over it so we'll see I still haven't seen it
• 34:43
  again I don't want to watch it I I put it on and I turned it off at one point
• 34:47
  cuz I was like no I would to watched it just for that one scene where the just
• 34:51
  drives flight into the Stardust drone and blows it up Matt do what I did watch
• 34:55
  it when you're on a plane that beit is amazing it's not it's
• 35:01
  dumb it's dumb it doesn't make sense silent and everyone's standing there shocked
• 35:07
  what it it's dumb like why don't they do that all the
• 35:11
  time if that's a thing you can do why not just do it all the time cuz you have
• 35:17
  to kill yourself to do it no you don't you know there [ __ ] droids
• 35:21
  everywhere you can't program a ship to just do that it doesn't make any sense
• 35:26
  why no way if you can do that there's no way that hasn't been weaponized
• 35:33
  expensive no you do that with a sh why isn't there a cannon why isn't there a light speed
• 35:40
  Cannon it just that was the um it just raises too many
• 35:46
  questions it looks so cool though it looks so [ __ ]
• 35:50
  cool what was it Star Killer oh yeah Star Killer base Star
• 35:57
  Killer B face that's that was a light light speed Cannon yeah you're there you
• 36:01
  go okay there you go look fine exactly
• 36:05
  what the maybe maybe I just like JJ Abrams and I don't like what Ryan
• 36:09
  Johnson did to his storyline maybe it is that it might have something to do with
• 36:15
  that just a little bit I do I I actually genuinely do think maybe that's got
• 36:19
  something to do with it and I just can't get over it look tonally I've never
• 36:23
  really liked Ryan Johnson's movies other than brick brick I loved I don't know I
• 36:28
  don't want to watch it again now because maybe I'll hate it now maybe I've come
• 36:32
  too far I hated uh Loper yeah Luper was
• 36:36
  awful lopa is kinds of awful it's the same way I feel about this like about
• 36:42
  the Last Jedi in that it just the yeah I know it's a conceit of the film that
• 36:47
  that's how time travel works but I just no I don't like it like the way you did
• 36:50
  it whatever whatever it is that he's doing for some reason I can't like he's
• 36:56
  just didn't feel nice like the conceit of The Last Jedi is that it's it's
• 36:59
  undermining that no no I'm
• 37:04
  sorry I get it but it did whatever he's selling is not for
• 37:10
  me sorry Ryan well like hopefully JJ can make it up to you yeah hopefully and
• 37:15
  then everyone else is going to be pissed off at him but whatever oh it's 50/50
• 37:20
  now you can't win you can't lose I've never met Ryan Johnson he
• 37:25
  seems like a nice guy he makes me laugh on Twitter uh and he seems like a top bloke I just
• 37:30
  I'm just not his St making films cuz Matt doesn't want to see him no make him
• 37:35
  doesn't I don't have to watch every film or enjoy every film I just I don't know
• 37:40
  just don't let him make any more Star Wars films please oh too late he's
• 37:43
  making three more God yeah just making three more all right I don't have to
• 37:46
  watch them see I do have to watch them but you will you do have to watch I have
• 37:51
  to I have to watch them and be mad about it you absolutely have to watch them my
• 37:56
  my role all right is that the end of our
• 38:00
  solo coverage I think so so everyone can Sho back in
• 38:06
  now God I I almost feel like if if if
• 38:10
  somebody didn't want to hear about solo
• 38:14
  then like we've lost them now for this episode because I just I just checked I
• 38:20
  was going to say I just checked we've been talking for 40 minutes
• 38:25
  so if we could talk for another talk for another 10 15 minutes about solo this
• 38:30
  could be the solo episode yeah as opposed to now just talking
• 38:36
  about a bunch of news that people are probably not even going to make it to
• 38:42
  yeah oh sorry there is something else I want to talk about with solo and I was
• 38:47
  wrong I was wrong and I wasn't the Millennium Falcon is a funny shape
• 38:52
  because the Escape pod which actually doesn't make any sense because they
• 38:57
  discussed the Escape pods in A New Hope uh which I will I will follow up on that
• 39:02
  in a second but the design of the Escape pod actually extends the front it it's
• 39:07
  not just in the little mandible things it extends the length of the front it
• 39:11
  comes yeah it comes out at the sides which I think played tricks on your eyes
• 39:14
  and making you think that the back was also longer well it just it just
• 39:19
  elongates the whole ship and so didn't notice any of that I didn't even notice
• 39:24
  it looked different no saw of it and it doesn't I couldn't figure out how a
• 39:30
  little block filling in that Gap made the whole ship longer it's cuz it's not
• 39:34
  it's like a t shape it goes in the block and then it it extends the front and
• 39:39
  then out yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah so I was wrong that that does make a mistake
• 39:44
  from the original trilogy because yep in a new saying that he added that life
• 39:51
  pod yeah whereas in a new hope they actually say that there were life pods
• 39:55
  on there that had already J yeah which is why he needed to add
• 40:02
  more he added them because the built-in one had been
• 40:07
  jettison yeah that is a weird thing to miss though you think [ __ ] Lawrence kdan
• 40:14
  would know that like I know he didn't write the first one but he's clearly
• 40:18
  familiar with it yeah he's like I'm aware of Star Wars and it's sort of
• 40:24
  weird it really played no part in the movie making the ship looked that
• 40:28
  different remember that article that said John Williams has never seen a Star
• 40:32
  Wars film and I was like [ __ ] off like that's so [ __ ] composed with his eyes
• 40:37
  closed yeah I guess what that means is after he watched it several dozen times
• 40:43
  he never watched it again yes exactly several dozen like [ __ ] after he watched
• 40:49
  it infinite times like put in the score to
• 40:54
  yeah you [ __ ] seen them
• 40:59
  we got anything else [ __ ] seen them I liked the Marauders a lot I like oh
• 41:04
  they'll definitely get a spin-off they'll definitely have a
• 41:09
  spin-off I didn't care for them what what exactly did you not like did I take any
• 41:15
  notes I don't know I just it's sort of weird cuz I felt like they were the
• 41:22
  Marauders felt like in that when they're in the movie that they were just in that
• 41:26
  on that planet and that's where they they lived and that was it but no they
• 41:29
  were trying to make out that they're from other planets and yeah I don't know
• 41:34
  I yeah they said that they they said they were like another team that's like
• 41:38
  the really really early precursors to the the rebels right that's what they
• 41:42
  were imp they said oh hopefully they don't show up at the beginning of the
• 41:46
  train when they were camped out they said oh hopefully the Marauders don't
• 41:49
  show up and then it was like ah they don't know about it I'm I'm sure of
• 41:53
  it I thought that uh creature in the mo was going to piss me off off but that
• 41:57
  actually quite liked it in the end which one you know the the the big [ __ ]
• 42:03
  octopus thing that got sucked into the the black hole or the oh right I [ __ ]
• 42:10
  honest to God guys I'm going to have to watch this movie again there's so many
• 42:13
  things that I liked about it that I've literally forgotten about
• 42:17
  already the same oh [ __ ] sorry we haven't talked about L3
• 42:23
  yes what are your thoughts is that a parody I can't tell what was going on
• 42:28
  with her like is she a parody of the kind of social justice you know social
• 42:33
  justice Warrior or is she like I think that's what it was or was she like yeah
• 42:37
  a serious attempt to bring in you know Droid rights to the Star Wars Universe I
• 42:43
  couldn't tell it was almost comical no I think it must it must have been
• 42:47
  sarcastic right yeah yeah well and also it was all just to Leading for a joke to
• 42:53
  make it where H the L Falcon computer came from yes to that line where it's
• 42:59
  all to lead into that for C3PO in The Empire Strikes Back I don't know where
• 43:04
  you're computer learn to communicate I did think it was odd all
• 43:09
  for that that Lando has this you know interesting relationship with the robot
• 43:15
  they make a few jokes about it right but they clearly close right they're friends
• 43:19
  yeah if nothing else and he's so upset that she's going to die that he puts her
• 43:25
  in the Millennium Falcon yeah and then loses it to Han yeah yeah just basically
• 43:31
  just it's like he lost his best friend like yeah I love that she thinks they're in
• 43:37
  love though she thinks that was funny yeah I thought the tone of the comedy in
• 43:43
  this was way better than in Last Jedi sorry not to I'm to rag on Last Jedi any
• 43:48
  no we can rag on Last Jedi it deserves it yeah R away okay I thought the comedy
• 43:52
  in this was way better no I think this was more a
• 43:58
  comedy no I just think that there's a certain there's a certain tone that
• 44:02
  action movies need uh to not
• 44:06
  be like I don't want to say too dark but like Indiana Jones is not a comedy but
• 44:11
  you laugh all the way through it you laugh when Indie comes face to face with
• 44:15
  that swordsman and shoots him with a gun you know but then Guardians of the
• 44:20
  Galaxy is is a comedy right but it works and I feel like this I'm glad this
• 44:26
  didn't go too far in that direction cuz I think that would have been a mistake
• 44:30
  is to just try and make Star Wars inter Guardians of the Galaxy which I was what
• 44:34
  I was I was worried they were going to do that um yeah but no they didn't do that and was
• 44:41
  good I think they found the right level yes yeah absolutely no it worked for me
• 44:47
  oh man that [ __ ] Star Destroyer in the mo that looks
• 44:53
  way yeah I like that Kastle I like the Kastle run is uh I guess explained and
• 45:00
  it wasn't it wasn't as God awful as it could have been yes cuz I thought the
• 45:04
  Kastle run was basically going to be a pod race you know pod race
• 45:10
  Revisited so in theend Universe what the kle Run was was in the kle there was
• 45:16
  thing called the mo and they've kept that but all it was was just a series of
• 45:19
  black holes right but not that space fog that they had in the movie mhm and fog
• 45:25
  they sort of kept h they sort of kept to it where the reason why Han was able to
• 45:30
  yeah why it was a record is cuz he did it so in a shortest distance which is actually a
• 45:35
  record which is what people always used to make fun of I know look a lot of
• 45:40
  effort has gone into explaining that mistake in A New Hope and it's but it
• 45:46
  still doesn't make any sense even knowing that right so now we've seen
• 45:50
  solo we know how he got through the Castle Run mhm
• 45:55
  obiwan or Luke whoever the [ __ ] Obi-Wan says is it a fast ship fast ship
• 46:02
  it made the Kastle Run in less than 12 Parx sorry I said is it
• 46:06
  fast yeah yeah not are you good at
• 46:09
  maneuvering it yeah see the reason why it was is well this was more clearer in
• 46:16
  the books was he was able to fly closer to the black holes to get a trajectory
• 46:20
  past them so yes he was faster okay oh and he did I mean he does inject the
• 46:26
  [ __ ] hyper fuel sorry Luke into the Falcon and zoom out so maybe that's what
• 46:32
  he meant but just it's it's still doesn't make sense cuz he's not yeah but
• 46:37
  also I reck they could have knocked at least another two that's because George
• 46:40
  Lucas knows [ __ ] all about space travel no it was just a throwaway line in a
• 46:44
  film that nobody knew people were going to [ __ ] pick to
• 46:47
  death for [ __ ] 40 years
• 46:51
  yeah um nearly 50 years isn't it no 3 years older than us they think they're
• 46:58
  they're on set and then Harrison's like George do you think uh in 40 years time
• 47:02
  they're going to have to make a film to explain this mistake and George is like
• 47:06
  just F line faster and more intense I guarantee you no one on that
• 47:11
  set knew what a parake was no no because most [ __ ] people don't no I still
• 47:17
  don't so [ __ ] you and they were all CED out of their
• 47:23
  minds those were the days have you guys seen a film on Netflix called um a
• 47:28
  stupid and futile gesture I've heard of it I've not seen
• 47:32
  it it's about the guys who uh started national
• 47:38
  ampon ah yes I've been meaning to watch
• 47:40
  it it's great it is very funny and it
• 47:45
  just shows how filmmakers in the late 70s early 80s did it like just [ __ ]
• 47:52
  throwing cocaine at each other basically
• 47:54
  you know right yeah but um uh yeah Will Forte plays Doug Kennedy the guy who
• 48:01
  started it all and uh but you've got um uh oh [ __ ] what's his name the guy
• 48:08
  from uh the soup oh John mcel John Mel Joel Mel
• 48:14
  plays Chevy Chase huh oh that's interesting yeah yeah yeah I've met Joel
• 48:20
  Mel he's a nice guy have you he does seem like a nice guy where did you meet
• 48:24
  him he did before uh um Community when he he was doing the soup but he he did
• 48:30
  stand up and he came to Sydney and he did a show at what's what that little [ __ ] theater
• 48:37
  in no not even the one in um the one near Vic on the park that little venue
• 48:43
  oh yeah right what's it I forget it's called yeah and so yeah I went and saw
• 48:48
  him there and then he just came and hung out afterwards cuz he wasn't a huge
• 48:52
  celebrity so yeah that's insane wow he's a nice guy
• 48:57
  but you know like John Landis Ivan wman they're all characters in this film and
• 49:03
  uh it's pretty funny and you should watch itol I will actually if you love
• 49:08
  films from that era and cocaine and yeah if you love cocaine this is the movie
• 49:12
  for you what did I give you some while you watch it
• 49:18
  yeah wow do you think uh [ __ ] what's
• 49:23
  the other Howard brother's name John Howard former one who's in this in Solo
• 49:28
  do you think he was in the film before Ron Howard got brought on wait there's a
• 49:32
  there's a Howard brother in this film yeah you know when they they're on uh I
• 49:36
  don't know what the planet is but when they go to meet Lando for the first time
• 49:39
  and the droids are fighting and L3 is yelling at them the the ring Master is
• 49:44
  [ __ ] what's his name Clint Howard Clint Howard yeah never heard of him
• 49:49
  before yes you have yeah you have look up a picture of him oh whoa that guy's
• 49:55
  Ron Howard's brother yeah what holy [ __ ]
• 50:01
  yeah that's just blown my mind so that my question is do you think he was in
• 50:05
  this film before Ron Howard's involvement or did they replace somebody
• 50:10
  with him wow or was that scene not in the film so many questions so you're
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  thinking that maybe Ron just gets his like hideous Twisted dwarf of a brother
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  involved in every film he does he's like look I'll come direct you I [ __ ] pull
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  this Star Wars movie out of uh development hell well that's certainly what James
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  gun does that is that is very true yeah yeah
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  I haven't seen uh G gun in a lot of non James gun directed films no that's
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  right he was he has all kinds of roles in James gun movies you wouldn't
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  suspect yeah that's right no offense to Sean gun if he's listening he's not but
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  sh the show and he's uh yeah no he's he's great I like sh I think he's a
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  great actor he's good in trimo and Juliet look you guys have still got to
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  find if it's let me see if it's online but you've got to watch screen Queens
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  because James gun is the host oh pidg porn yeah is hilarious too but scream
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  Queens is great um James gun's the host
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  and he even brings in uh yondu what's his name oh um
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  Michael Rooker yes Michael Rooker and um and none of them know who he is Michael
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  his name is Michael that is his name yeah so guys if you want to watch it
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  scream Queens VH1 on YouTube you can watch the entire series all right cool I
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  will it's great Matt you'd love it Jenna will love
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  it I don't want to have to tell you again fine all right she's going to edit
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  this she'll Jenna I don't want to have to tell you again oh by the
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  way happy birthday Dan oh thanks guys yeah it was my birthday yesterday a solo
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  episode on your birthday cuz I'm all
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  alone a I'm not allone Dan solo Oh that
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  reminds me I probably won't be here next week oh you'll be in America is this a c
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  be America oh right cry failed that's all for this week thank you for
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