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The Rita Panahi Show | 26 January · The Rita Panahi Show

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Speaker 1: On Scolds Australia.
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Speaker 2: This is the Reader Panalty Show. Good evening and welcome
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Speaker 2: to the Rita Patty Show. Coming up tonight. Susan Lee
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Speaker 2: under pressure as Andrew Hasty prepares to launch a challenge.
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Speaker 2: Colleen Harkin and Christy McSweeney will join me to cover
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Speaker 2: the day's top headlines. Lefty influencers are losing it a
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Speaker 2: support for Australia days surges to new highs. I'll speak
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Speaker 2: with Klista Clemens about that shortly more reckless retrick from
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Speaker 2: Democrats inciting violence after a fatal ice shooting in Minneapolis.
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Speaker 2: Josh Hammer will provide his insights later, and Brooklyn Beckham
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Speaker 2: maybe falling in Prince Harry's footsteps with a tel Or
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Speaker 2: memoir Kinsey's Schofield will give us all the details about
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Speaker 2: that later in the hour. And left is Losing It
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Speaker 2: isn't just about bananas and rice.
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Speaker 3: You know if people don't think, oh, you can bananas
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Speaker 3: with race, but that's what it's like to be Somali
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Speaker 3: an American. It's like that combination of banana race.
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Speaker 2: But first, Andrew Hasty looks set to challenge Susan Lee
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Speaker 2: for the Liberal leadership after he was given the blessing
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Speaker 2: of his young family. Sources close so Hasty told the
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Speaker 2: Australian newspaper that he had discussed the implications of taking
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Speaker 2: up the job with his wife, Ruth, who said she
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Speaker 2: was fully supportive. The Liberals are in turmoil, with their
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Speaker 2: poll numbers at record lows and the Nationals walking away
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Speaker 2: from the coalition. National leader David Little Proud has refused
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Speaker 2: to say whether he would back Hasty as leader. Liberal
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Speaker 2: Senator Jane Hugh refuse to address the speculation.
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Speaker 4: Susan Lee is the leader. There is no spill. Anything
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Speaker 4: else is simply a hypothetical. No one has called me
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Speaker 4: and asked me to vote for them. Susan Lee is
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Speaker 4: my leader. She has been elected by the party room
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Speaker 4: and we will continue to serve under a leader.
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Speaker 2: Joining me now is Institute of Public Affairs Senior Fellow
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Speaker 2: Colleen Harken and pr Council Managing Director Christy McSweeney. Colleen,
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Speaker 2: I'll start with you. There appeared to be two contenders
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Speaker 2: for this job, Andrew Hasty and Angus Taylor. Who do
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Speaker 2: you think will prevail or is it inevitable? Are we
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Speaker 2: getting ahead of ourselves? Could Lee hold on?
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Speaker 1: I don't see how she can hold on in the
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Speaker 1: longer term. She might in the shorter term because to
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Speaker 1: do it too soon would make it look like they've
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Speaker 1: acquiesced to the National's push. But I think there's a
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Speaker 1: bigger problem here. The Liberal Party in particular, seems to
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Speaker 1: have forgotten what the role.
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Speaker 2: Of opposition is.
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Speaker 1: They've forgotten that their job is not to help labor
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Speaker 1: with bad legislation. Their job is to oppose and to
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Speaker 1: hold them to account. And so now, regardless of whoever
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Speaker 1: may or may not take over in due course, we're
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Speaker 1: stuck with that legislation because the Liberals helped bring it
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Speaker 1: to parts. So in years to come, if they ever
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Speaker 1: do get back into government, they're stuck with this legislation
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Speaker 1: because they were the people who helped get it across
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Speaker 1: the line. There's been an enormous amount of pushback, rightly
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Speaker 1: so about it, and in all of that context, I
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Speaker 1: think the Nationals have held themselves well, although they're starting
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Speaker 1: to look shambolic again today yesterday.
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Speaker 2: It is just such a shame Christy, because it is
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Speaker 2: terrible legislation. It's one thing for the opposition to back
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Speaker 2: good legislation, but to forget that their opposition to forget
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Speaker 2: that they're supposed to stand up for liberal values. And
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Speaker 2: then you've got someone like Hasty who was complicit in
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Speaker 2: passing this legislation. So how is he going to prove
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Speaker 2: to those disaffected Liberal voters who have abandoned the party
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Speaker 2: that they should come back when he passed these so
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Speaker 2: called hate speech laws.
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Speaker 5: Look, there's many people in the conservative side of the
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Speaker 5: Liberal Party, of which Andrew Hasty is won, and there's
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Speaker 5: was Mechalli Cash, Andrew Hasty, James Patterson, John O'Donovan, all conservatives.
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Speaker 5: These people are hardly people that rally oats and policy
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Speaker 5: positions for the moderate.
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Speaker 2: Side of the faction.
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Speaker 5: They are hardly people who are not free speech supporters.
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Speaker 5: So they have taken a view that let's not stop
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Speaker 5: the perfect being the enemy of the good. However, there
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Speaker 5: are deeper questions to answer about how this legislation is
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Speaker 5: going to be enacted. I don't think there was enough
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Speaker 5: time for people to go through the bill and to
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Speaker 5: make sure those amendments that were put forward and pass
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Speaker 5: were adequate, and amendments that the Liberal Party would probably
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Speaker 5: support as a whole, and come to a position where
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Speaker 5: both factions could support it. However, that is what happens
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Speaker 5: when you demand that Parliament be recalled and do not
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Speaker 5: have a plan or a strategy of what you will
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Speaker 5: do with your voice once parliament. Well that's reported on
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Speaker 5: once you have won that fart off the back of
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Speaker 5: a couple of wins, calling the Prime Minister, forcing him
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Speaker 5: to call a Royal commission and then forcing him to
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Speaker 5: recall part parliament. Two wins there, And we hate putting
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Speaker 5: this in the context of winning and losing over such
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Speaker 5: tragic circumstances. However, losing that advantage once you have no
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Speaker 5: strategy and no plan, once you get what you want.
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Speaker 2: Well, that is the indictment here, Colleen. Because Susan Lee
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Speaker 2: demanded Parliament be recalled, she had no plan, and it
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Speaker 2: seems like part of the reason these terrible laws were
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Speaker 2: passed was so she could justify that those calls, because
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Speaker 2: the Prime Minister did come out and say, why are
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Speaker 2: you demanding parliament a record when you've really got enough
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Speaker 2: substantial to offer here. And I think it's just such
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Speaker 2: a great shame for the country that we have an
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Speaker 2: Islamist terror attack. And what comes out of that is
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Speaker 2: that the free speech of ordinary Australians is impacted in
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Speaker 2: a negative way, including the ability to robustly talk about
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Speaker 2: Islamism and mass migration and all sorts of other important issues. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Correct, The target that it was supposed to address has
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Speaker 1: not been targeted.
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Speaker 2: He has not been addressed at all.
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Speaker 1: We've got a High Court challenge from the very group
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Speaker 1: that's supposed to have been shut down. Though it's the
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Speaker 1: ordinary Australian who will suffer here in the longer term.
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Speaker 1: There's no way in my view that those MPs could
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Speaker 1: have done due justice, due diligence to five hundred pages
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Speaker 1: of legislation in the two days or whatever it was
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Speaker 1: that they were looking at it. The consequences of this
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Speaker 1: are enormous and I think that there's all trying to
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Speaker 1: backtrack and say it'll will be okay, but I think
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Speaker 1: everybody knows it's bad legislation.
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Speaker 2: Now let's get back to the potential leadership challenge. There's
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Speaker 2: a lot being said about Hasty being from Wa. Christie,
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Speaker 2: can you have a leader from Wa. We've only had
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Speaker 2: one Prime Minister in Australia's history who has been from WA.
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Speaker 2: Does seem to be a bit of an impediment.
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Speaker 5: Look, and this is not my view on backing any
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Speaker 5: candidate that has currently put their hand up or may
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Speaker 5: do so in the future. However, we do have him
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Speaker 5: Beasley was from Western Australia.
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Speaker 2: And it doesn't work out well, And well, it.
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Speaker 5: Did work out well, but he held the job for
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Speaker 5: a long long time. And of course I'm sure Andrew
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Speaker 5: Hasty will argue that Western Australia is now going to
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Speaker 5: form a key part or key involvement in the Liberal
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Speaker 5: Party's policy platform going forward. Shall we ever get some
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Speaker 5: policies around orcus there's significant investment there from the United
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Speaker 5: States in housing and infrastructure.
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Speaker 2: In defense.
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Speaker 5: I'm sure he'll run the Western Australian line that WA
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Speaker 5: contributes the most to the running of the national economy
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Speaker 5: and underpins our standard of living in Western Australia, and
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Speaker 5: so all of those things are hugely relevant, and perhaps
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Speaker 5: it might bring some attention to just how relevant Western
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Speaker 5: Australia is. As a proud Western Australian myself. However, as
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Speaker 5: I say, he's got a long long way to go
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Speaker 5: to convince many others of that, as does anyone who
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Speaker 5: wants the job.
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Speaker 2: Well, we are in the digital age. I think the
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Speaker 2: issue being from WA is a lot less than it
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Speaker 2: was in the past. You know, we're all want our
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Speaker 2: devices twenty four to seven. You can speak to anybody
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Speaker 2: anywhere and you can. I'm pretty sure Hasty has a
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Speaker 2: setup in his home or his office so he can
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Speaker 2: do media interviews without leaving his electorate if he needs to.
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Speaker 2: Now let's talk about Australia Day. We've had the usual
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Speaker 2: Invasion Day rallies, all the hate and hysterian division, but
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Speaker 2: the polls continue to come in. People are overwhelmingly supportive.
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Speaker 2: Another poll here by the News Court Papers has found
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Speaker 2: an overwhelming majority of Australians would not support businesses they
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Speaker 2: boycott Australia Day. Nearly ninety percent were less likely to
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Speaker 2: support businesses they boycotted Australia, while only three percent that's
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Speaker 2: the lowed minority there were more likely to support those businesses.
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Speaker 2: Ninety six percent said they felt pride when they saw
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Speaker 2: the Australian flag, and this constant bickering over the date
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Speaker 2: of Australia Day was also nominated as the worst thing
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Speaker 2: about the national day. Now. Christy Lush is a company
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Speaker 2: that is protesting Australia Day. They claim for Indigenous people
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Speaker 2: it is a day of mourning, survival, and remembrance, a
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Speaker 2: stark reminder of the violence and dispossession that began with
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Speaker 2: invasion and continues to echo through systems and lived experiences today.
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Speaker 2: I mean, really, Lush should concentrate on the hideous stench
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Speaker 2: that emanates from their stores. I cannot even walk past
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Speaker 2: one of their stores in a shopping center without getting
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Speaker 2: a headache that there's some sort of a nuisance that company.
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Speaker 2: But this is pretty dumb marketing. Sure you're appealing to
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Speaker 2: the three percent, but ninety percent one don't want our
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Speaker 2: corporations to get all political, and if they are getting political,
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Speaker 2: don't be on the wrong side of history.
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Speaker 5: Of course, and this replicates what we've seen from large
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Speaker 5: corporates who have actively publicly put out statements saying we
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Speaker 5: are giving our stuff the choice of celebrating another holiday
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Speaker 5: and coming in to work on Australiada and choosing to
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Speaker 5: have a day off another day of their preference. This
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Speaker 5: is ridiculous that corporates have gone to this extent thinking
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Speaker 5: that that resonates with the majority of Australians.
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Speaker 2: It doesn't.
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Speaker 5: Those numbers that you've pointed out are really really clear,
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Speaker 5: and I think we're seeing a backlash of people who
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Speaker 5: are just constantly sick of people not celebrating Australia.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely our national day. And it's not about the date,
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Speaker 2: because if you're actually familiar with the date, if you're
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Speaker 2: familiar with the date of the arrival, you wouldn't be
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Speaker 2: perturbed by January twenty sixth I learn your history. First
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Speaker 2: of all, it's about opposition to any celebration of Australia.
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Speaker 2: You could change the date to whatever you like, whatever
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Speaker 2: they suggest, and they will still have protests on that day.
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Speaker 2: But on the corporate virtue signaling, we saw this last year, Colleen.
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Speaker 2: We had a major hospitality group more than two hundred
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Speaker 2: venues across Australia, Australian Venues Company. They were forced to
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Speaker 2: apologize after they told their managers that there should be
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Speaker 2: no acknowledgment of Australia Day, or January twenty sixth as
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Speaker 2: they called it. Companies are starting to figure out there's
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Speaker 2: a price to pay, because for a long time, as
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Speaker 2: long as you were virtue signaling to the left, they
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Speaker 2: felt pretty safe because the right kind of just you know,
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Speaker 2: opt it. But now the rest of the country, the
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Speaker 2: silent majority is saying nah, enough. We've had it, well,
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Speaker 2: we saw it.
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Speaker 1: We've always pay the price with the lack of shoppers
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Speaker 1: attending their stores. Look, I mean, in any given year
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Speaker 1: there is Sorry Day, Nadock Week, Reconciliation Week. Australians have
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Speaker 1: recognized what's happened in the past, We've said sorry. All
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Speaker 1: Australians want to move on and celebrate our national Day together.
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Speaker 1: Christie's citing just there. Of the people who were given
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Speaker 1: the choice of taking a different day of holiday, eighteen
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Speaker 1: to twenty four year olds at IPA research will tell
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Speaker 1: you that eighty three percent of them say no, we want.
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Speaker 2: To celebrate it on Australia Day.
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Speaker 1: We're proud of our country, We're proud of who we are.
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Speaker 2: The people who are.
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Speaker 1: Doing this have no knowledge of history. They should come
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Speaker 1: to the IPA's schools program dot org dot a you
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Speaker 1: download a unit about Captain Philip, about the rule of law,
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Speaker 1: how it was established, about how convicts were given rights.
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Speaker 1: I mean, there's just so much issue that they're not
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Speaker 1: knowledgeable of and they need to do a bit of reading.
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Speaker 5: Before they carry on with all of this and not
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Speaker 5: taught in schools. Correct And can I also add just
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Speaker 5: to the corporate virtue signaling that company, that hospitality group
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Speaker 5: we're speaking about, is owned almost wholly by Singapore investment
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Speaker 5: company by one Singaporean billionaire. I don't think he really
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Speaker 5: cares about celebrating Australia Day.
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Speaker 2: Well, knowing how Singapore is run, I'd say that he'd
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Speaker 2: be pretty upset about the corporate virtues seen from his
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Speaker 2: senior managers, and perhaps he's moved them on in the
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Speaker 2: in the last twelve months. Colleen Harken, Christop mcsquaeney, thank
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Speaker 2: you so much for your time tonight. Thank hes you.
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Speaker 2: My next guest is a popular online commentator and she
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Speaker 2: has a message for the race obsessed self loaths in Australia.
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Speaker 6: How many times have you heard that Australia has no
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Speaker 6: culture and if you're not Indigenous, it's not your land,
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Speaker 6: and that we're just a bunch of murderous colonizers.
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Speaker 7: Let me be clear to you little freaks.
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Speaker 2: This land is my land. I was born here.
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Speaker 6: My skin color and my bloodlines do not dictate my
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Speaker 6: connection to my land.
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Speaker 2: Calisa Clements joins me in Melbourne. Callista, welcome to Sky News,
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Speaker 2: your first time on air.
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Speaker 8: Here.
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Speaker 2: Tell me about the anti Australia Day sentiment. It reaches
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Speaker 2: a fever pitch every year on our national holiday.
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Speaker 6: Well, thank you so much having me on reader, and
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Speaker 6: happy Australia Days, Australia Day if you're lucky enough to
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Speaker 6: be a Victorian like myself. Unfortunately, we do see protests
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Speaker 6: every single Sunday, something new every single Sunday, and of
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Speaker 6: course twenty six of January marking a day of national
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Speaker 6: unity should be national unity and celebration for our beautiful
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Speaker 6: country and our beautiful people. We see the same people
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Speaker 6: who preach inclusivity and equality out there on the streets
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Speaker 6: creating more division in our nation. And it's not helping
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Speaker 6: the cause for anyone, to be quite frank.
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Speaker 2: It's not. And they are losing the they're losing the population,
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Speaker 2: they're losing the majority. There was a Resolve poll today
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Speaker 2: which found support for changing the date has declined from
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Speaker 2: thirty nine percent back in twenty twenty three to just
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Speaker 2: sixteen percent this year, and we've seen multiple poles in
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Speaker 2: recent weeks showing support for Australia Day is increasing, with
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Speaker 2: the overwhelming majority of the country against changing the day
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Speaker 2: and being proud of our national holiday. But despite that
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Speaker 2: you've still got that very online world, the so called
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Speaker 2: instanin influencers, TikTokers raging about Australia day. Tell me about
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Speaker 2: that divide between you could call it the real world
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Speaker 2: and that very online world of just emoting wildly twenty
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Speaker 2: four to seven.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, totally.
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Speaker 6: I think my stances.
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Speaker 7: Let them rage.
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Speaker 6: At the end of the day, it's going to be
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Speaker 6: their own unraveling. And that's what we're seeing more and more,
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Speaker 6: I think in the space, especially with a lot of
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Speaker 6: prominent female commentators, if political commentators, if that's what you
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Speaker 6: want to call them. They're telling people what to think,
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Speaker 6: not how to think, and it goes in complete well
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Speaker 6: contradiction to their whole platform a matter of empowering people,
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Speaker 6: empowering women, especially to speak up, be bold, and it's
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Speaker 6: echoing the sentiment that if you don't, if you don't
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Speaker 6: mimic my voice, then you don't deserve to have a voice.
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Speaker 2: So a lot of these.
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Speaker 6: Influencers who are rage baiting us, look there there are
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Speaker 6: there are their own undoing at the end of the day.
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Speaker 7: Reader.
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Speaker 2: Now you didn't name any there, but I mean a
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Speaker 2: couple will come immediately to my mind. The likes of
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Speaker 2: Clementine Ford, Abby Chatfield. They seem to fit the mold
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Speaker 2: of what you just said, where they just tell the
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Speaker 2: audience what to think. You must think this, or that
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Speaker 2: you're evil or there's something wrong with you. There's no
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Speaker 2: critical thinking, there's no diversity of thought. There's really not
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Speaker 2: much thought at all.
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Speaker 6: There no correct You know, you've just said two of
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Speaker 6: my favorite women in one sentence.
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Speaker 2: They do give you a word bit of They do
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Speaker 2: give a fair bit of content though then.
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Speaker 6: They do, which I'm grateful for that that I think
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Speaker 6: that's the only thing I'm grateful for those two women.
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Speaker 6: But yeah, I think it's it's disappointing when you have there,
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Speaker 6: obviously two very influential women, and it is a big
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Speaker 6: shame when you know you can't preach women empowerment and
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Speaker 6: then at the exact same time tell a woman that
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Speaker 6: she's wrong if she doesn't agree with exactly what you're
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Speaker 6: putting out on the internet. And I think more and
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Speaker 6: more gratefully people are getting sick and tired of it
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Speaker 6: and they're seeing through it.
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Speaker 2: Now, let's talk about one of these so called insta
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Speaker 2: influences here. This one has railed against Australia Day but
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Speaker 2: I won't play that clip because she doesn't seem to
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Speaker 2: just hate Australia day. She seems to have a real
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Speaker 2: problem with this country and a deep disdain for its
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Speaker 2: people and culture.
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Speaker 8: Chech Australian culture, right, you know, the proud culture of
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Speaker 8: having no teeth, yelling unintelligible phrases, screaming profanity. It's strangers
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Speaker 8: getting plastered on a Saturday Horvor and smashing a meat
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Speaker 8: pie in the.
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Speaker 2: Sorovo car park.
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Speaker 8: Real Australia first behavior, mate, Yeah, nah, you're doing great,
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Speaker 8: single handedly preserving the national identity.
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Speaker 2: Yeah jeez, I can't understand why they're losing support. They're
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Speaker 2: just just so likable and relatable. But how influential are
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Speaker 2: these sorts of so called instant influences and tiktoks?
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Speaker 6: I mean too influential, too prevalent, because I don't want
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Speaker 6: them to exist at all, ideally, but they.
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Speaker 2: Give you materials. They give the material right side, Yeah,
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Speaker 2: exactly right.
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Speaker 6: And look, I feel a lot of pity for these
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Speaker 6: these kind of people. And at the end of the day,
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Speaker 6: this is a very loud minority. It doesn't reflect the
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Speaker 6: majority of people. Unfortunately, people like this weaponize so many labels,
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Speaker 6: and it kills people's livelihoods, people's financial livelihoods when it
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Speaker 6: comes to label. So it's forcing people into silence. But
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Speaker 6: I can say one thing today is that I can
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Speaker 6: give you and your audience a lot of hope that
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Speaker 6: I have an amazing strong community of men and women,
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Speaker 6: people who have previously been left people who are nuanced
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Speaker 6: about politics, that are to see common sense and that's
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Speaker 6: the way forward. And I really do think it's flipping around.
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Speaker 2: Reader Clister clements. Thank you so much for time.
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Speaker 6: Time having me, Reader, I appreciate it.
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Speaker 2: Still to coma lefties Losing it plass the latest from
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Speaker 2: the US, including reckless retrick from the Democrats following a
19:17
Speaker 2: fatal ice shooting in Minneapolis. Josh Hammer, that's the latest.
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Speaker 2: You're watching the Reader Panney show, and it's time for
19:37
Speaker 2: lefties losing it. Let's start in Minnesota where the spin
19:40
Speaker 2: doctors have been busy fighting back after revelations of mass
19:45
Speaker 2: fraud and dysfunction in the Somali community, and they're putting
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Speaker 2: their best and brightest to work in front of the
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Speaker 2: media to explain what it means to be Somali in America.
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Speaker 3: So I'm Samaria.
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Speaker 2: I I'm proud to be.
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Speaker 3: To me, being Somali isn't just eating bananas with race.
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Speaker 2: It's a it's a lie. It's like.
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Speaker 3: It's a it's a it's an interesting thing. It's a
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Speaker 3: it's very hard to describe what it means to be
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Speaker 3: Somali and what it means to be American.
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Speaker 2: Okay, Han, I know it's hard, but you can do this.
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Speaker 2: You've already made it clear that being Somali is not
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Speaker 2: about eating bananas with rice. That's a lie. You got this, and.
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Speaker 3: It's kind of like the bananas and race. You know,
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Speaker 3: people don't really see like you know, it's a it's
20:38
Speaker 3: a it's you know, people don't think, oh, you can
20:40
Speaker 3: eat bananas with race, but that's what it's like to
20:44
Speaker 3: be Somali an American. It's like that combination of banana
20:48
Speaker 3: and race. But you're gonna get what I mean.
20:51
Speaker 2: You literally said it wasn't about bananas and rice. They
20:55
Speaker 2: are not sending their best now staying in Minnesota, let's
20:58
Speaker 2: check in on the frightfully inept Governor Tim Walls. He
21:03
Speaker 2: is with his scary wife, speaking from behind the gates
21:07
Speaker 2: of his mansion.
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Speaker 9: The resistance matters.
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Speaker 7: We're not knowing people to be silent.
21:12
Speaker 8: But we're not yelling people to go out and cause problem.
21:15
Speaker 5: We're going to cause good.
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Speaker 2: Trouble, cause trouble, all right, Not good trouble, mind you.
21:20
Speaker 2: No good comes from coming to a violent uprising with
21:24
Speaker 2: a loaded gun, an extra AMMO and violently obstructing law
21:30
Speaker 2: enforcement officers. That's what happened in Minneapolis, and that's why
21:33
Speaker 2: a man is dead. But not if you listen to
21:36
Speaker 2: the Hollywood elite, they think they're living in Nazi Germany
21:40
Speaker 2: and those enforcing the law are guilty of gross human
21:44
Speaker 2: rights violations. Here is the beautiful but bonkers nationally portmand.
21:50
Speaker 10: What's going on in our country right now is absolutely
21:54
Speaker 10: horrific with what the federal government, Trump's government, christinelm what
22:00
Speaker 10: they're doing is really the worst of the worst of humanity.
22:04
Speaker 10: And then we also have the best of the best
22:07
Speaker 10: of humanity for the way people are showing up for
22:09
Speaker 10: each other in community and Americans coming out to support
22:13
Speaker 10: each other and protect each other and fate against injustice.
22:17
Speaker 2: So pretty, it's so stupid Americans coming out to support
22:23
Speaker 2: each other. Really naturally, that's not what's happening. You've got
22:27
Speaker 2: the lunatic left coming out to obstruct law enforcement and
22:31
Speaker 2: to protect criminals from deportation. We're not talking about peaceful
22:36
Speaker 2: protests here, We're talking about obstructing law enforcement, attacking law enforcement.
22:44
Speaker 2: But again the facts are lost on the Hollywood darlings.
22:48
Speaker 2: Here's Olivia Wilde, who is allegedly an actress. Here she
22:53
Speaker 2: emotes wildly.
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Speaker 11: The world is hurting right now, and this country is
22:58
Speaker 11: hurting and it's appalling. I'm appalled, I'm sickond and we
23:03
Speaker 11: can't go another day just sort of accepting this as
23:06
Speaker 11: our new norm. It's outrageous. People are being murdered, and
23:10
Speaker 11: I don't want to normalize seeing people being murdered on
23:13
Speaker 11: the internet, on film.
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Speaker 2: It's hideous.
23:16
Speaker 11: And so if we can do anything out here to
23:19
Speaker 11: support the movement to cast ice out, to delegitimize this
23:25
Speaker 11: unbelievably criminal organization, then that's what we should be doing.
23:31
Speaker 11: So I'm proud to wear them.
23:34
Speaker 2: And here is Chris Kumo, looking like he hasn't slept
23:37
Speaker 2: or showered for days. And according to the Pharmacy and
23:41
Speaker 2: n Hack, it is the government that must back down,
23:44
Speaker 2: let the violent agitators and insurrectionists have their day. Great idea, Chris.
23:50
Speaker 12: The video accounts show a very troubling episode that beg
23:54
Speaker 12: for accountability and de escalation, and it has to start
23:58
Speaker 12: with the government. Okay, we have to start at the top.
24:02
Speaker 12: These are the people who are charged with knowing how
24:06
Speaker 12: and insisting on the escalation, the hot talk, the constant threats,
24:13
Speaker 12: the constant justification. It has to stop. We can't have
24:18
Speaker 12: government agents shooting and killing American citizens.
24:24
Speaker 2: Let's bring in Newsweek's senior editor at Large and Article
24:28
Speaker 2: three Project Senior Council Josh Hammer. Josh Chris Comer argues
24:33
Speaker 2: that the de escalation must start at the top, that
24:37
Speaker 2: law enforcement government officials must back down.
24:41
Speaker 13: Do you agree, reader, Last I checked, it wasn't the
24:46
Speaker 13: job of law enforcement to de escalate or back down. Rather,
24:50
Speaker 13: last time I checked, and I'm pretty confident in fact
24:53
Speaker 13: as a lawyer myself, it's the job of law enforcement
24:56
Speaker 13: to await, yes, to enforce the law. It's literally in
25:00
Speaker 13: the name of law enforcements. But they that federal law
25:02
Speaker 13: enforcement stops enforcing federal law. Federal law seasons to be
25:06
Speaker 13: taking seriously. But you know, Rita, this is this is
25:10
Speaker 13: so evocative of some of the worst moments in American history.
25:14
Speaker 13: Look I'm born in Abraham Lincoln's birthday. I think about
25:17
Speaker 13: the American Civil War a lot, probably more often, frankly
25:20
Speaker 13: than I should. When we look at what some of
25:23
Speaker 13: today's leading provocateurs, these Minnesota anarchiss insurrectionists, who have been
25:28
Speaker 13: essentially trying to serve the passions of the anti ICE
25:31
Speaker 13: demagoguery there, people like Tim Walls and Keith Ellison and
25:35
Speaker 13: Jacob Fry. I was listening to Keith Ellis and the
25:38
Speaker 13: Attorney General of Minnesota. He was reading off his complaints
25:42
Speaker 13: from this lawsuit that the State of Minnesota has filed
25:45
Speaker 13: against DHS and ICE alongside the City of Minneapolis. There,
25:48
Speaker 13: and he was saying, how the Tenth Amendment and states rights,
25:52
Speaker 13: the federal government does not belong here. And I'm sitting
25:55
Speaker 13: there thinking to myself, Man, if you took this Muslim
25:57
Speaker 13: guy from Minnesota and you put on a thick Southern accent,
26:00
Speaker 13: the ten Amendment states rods, the federal government does not
26:03
Speaker 13: belong here, It's like, my God, like, we literally fought
26:06
Speaker 13: a civil war over this. I mean, this is literally
26:08
Speaker 13: just nineteen forties or eighteen forties, eighteen fifties era anti
26:13
Speaker 13: Bellum Southern secessionary fervor. I mean, this is the ghost
26:16
Speaker 13: of John C. Calhoun, Jefferson Davis, Stonewall Jackson. They don't
26:20
Speaker 13: see it that way, but that's literally exactly what it is.
26:23
Speaker 13: So look, you know, on the one hand, Minnesota looks
26:26
Speaker 13: like a failed state, and certainly, on the one hand,
26:29
Speaker 13: as an economic conservative, I don't necessarily want to waste
26:31
Speaker 13: resources trying to rehabilitate this clearly clearly failed boondog will say.
26:36
Speaker 13: On the other hand, on the other hand, the unmitigated
26:39
Speaker 13: supremacy of federal law, which by the way, is a
26:42
Speaker 13: constitutionally required proposition under Article six of the Constitution. That's
26:45
Speaker 13: the supremacy clause its constitutions required. And oh yeah, as
26:49
Speaker 13: I said, we literally fought a civil war. Over six
26:52
Speaker 13: hundred thousand Americans died, They paid the ultimate sacrifice who
26:55
Speaker 13: established the timeless principle that federal law is supreme in
27:00
Speaker 13: this country. And now it's on the trumdministration to enforce that,
27:03
Speaker 13: to enforce the lessons of Abraham Lincoln not to bow
27:06
Speaker 13: on the face of the dollar in Chris Cuomo and
27:08
Speaker 13: various other nikompoops like.
27:10
Speaker 2: That, Josh, it is curious that Ice is operating across America,
27:17
Speaker 2: but it's just in a select few blue cities, often
27:21
Speaker 2: riddled with fraud and crime, where this sort of violence,
27:24
Speaker 2: this sort of uprising is occurring. Tell me about this
27:28
Speaker 2: latest case we know about this man who was shot dead.
27:33
Speaker 2: He came to this protest with a loaded gun, and
27:37
Speaker 2: he had a fair amount of ammunition with him. He
27:40
Speaker 2: had a license to carry that gun. Who would come
27:45
Speaker 2: to a protest with a loaded gun knowing you're going
27:48
Speaker 2: to have contact with law enforcement.
27:52
Speaker 13: Yeah, just not a very smart thing to do, Okay.
27:55
Speaker 13: I think that's kind of the underesteeming the sanctuary. I
27:58
Speaker 13: say that, by the way, as someone who was a concer,
28:00
Speaker 13: he'll carry holder. I carry a firearm essentially every single
28:03
Speaker 13: day in my life. But if hypothetically, if I were
28:06
Speaker 13: so inclined to go here in the United States, here
28:08
Speaker 13: in Florida where I live, if I were hypothetically inclined
28:11
Speaker 13: to go to some to go to some protests, I
28:13
Speaker 13: probably would think twice about bringing lethal force, especially in
28:18
Speaker 13: a situation in a boiling pot like this. I mean,
28:22
Speaker 13: this is happening, what two weeks after the after the
28:25
Speaker 13: death of Renee Good, after she was after she was
28:27
Speaker 13: shouted at by her by her partner, Drive Baby drive,
28:30
Speaker 13: you know, leading this this isation, John van Ross to
28:32
Speaker 13: fire shots. The guy who, by the way, was sent
28:34
Speaker 13: to the hospital. A lot of people forgot that detail
28:36
Speaker 13: that the agent and the in the Renee Good case
28:38
Speaker 13: went to the hospital actually because he had he had
28:41
Speaker 13: some internal bleeding and some hip damage there. He was
28:43
Speaker 13: subsequently released there. This is dangerous stuff. This is dangerous stuff.
28:47
Speaker 13: And you know exactly what you were doing if you
28:49
Speaker 13: if you are bringing lethal weaponry to a government protest,
28:52
Speaker 13: let alone a protest in any situation, nothing like that.
28:56
Speaker 13: Bye bye. By all accounts, by all account bas and
28:58
Speaker 13: everything that I have read, the individual here, Alex pretty
29:01
Speaker 13: was told numerous times to stop what he was doing,
29:04
Speaker 13: to turn over his firearmy, and just to follow orders,
29:08
Speaker 13: more generally to follow the federal agent's orders there. He
29:11
Speaker 13: refused to do that, and tragically, that's why he's no.
29:14
Speaker 2: Longer with us. Because we're not talking just about protests here,
29:19
Speaker 2: peaceful protests, robust protests. We're talking about active obstruction of
29:24
Speaker 2: law enforcement. We're talking about aggressive actions. It's a very
29:29
Speaker 2: different phenomenon to just showing up somewhere and protesting against
29:33
Speaker 2: what's happening because you don't agree with it. Now. You
29:36
Speaker 2: mentioned you've got to concealed carry license, and from what
29:40
Speaker 2: I understand, anyone who has one of those is told
29:43
Speaker 2: repeatedly through every step of the process, do not engage
29:47
Speaker 2: with police if you're carrying, not aggressively, not violently. You've
29:51
Speaker 2: just got to be hyper alert if you are carrying
29:55
Speaker 2: a loaded gun and you come in contact with police,
29:57
Speaker 2: because of course they are on high themselves.
30:02
Speaker 13: Oh yeah, and you know it's not just police, but
30:04
Speaker 13: it's also just all federal agents. All federal property are
30:08
Speaker 13: generally speaking here. Look, I mean you go to any
30:11
Speaker 13: airport here and pretty much any airport in the United States,
30:13
Speaker 13: there there's a large sign from TSA, which does the
30:16
Speaker 13: airport screenings, that says, make sure you're not carrying a
30:20
Speaker 13: weapon when you go through the melitecher there. There is
30:22
Speaker 13: a glaringly obvious sign in every airport. It's also federal
30:25
Speaker 13: court rooms. Look, I mean, I'm a lawyer. I know
30:27
Speaker 13: a bunch of judges. So I think it was about
30:29
Speaker 13: a year and a half ago or so, I got
30:31
Speaker 13: lunch with a federal judge here in Miami with him
30:33
Speaker 13: and his law clerks there, and I left my firearm
30:36
Speaker 13: at home because I'm not going to bring a gun
30:37
Speaker 13: into a federal courthouse where there are US marshals. It's
30:40
Speaker 13: called common sense. I mean, we have a Second Amendment
30:43
Speaker 13: in this country, and thank God for that. I'm a
30:45
Speaker 13: huge proponent of the Second Amendment. We also have a
30:47
Speaker 13: thing between the ears here and there not getting called
30:49
Speaker 13: common sense, and it's in common upon all of us
30:52
Speaker 13: to not leave our common sense at home, no matter
30:55
Speaker 13: how much people like Tim Walls and Keith Ellison and
30:57
Speaker 13: Jiggle Fry are trying to stir up the passions of
30:59
Speaker 13: the deep impressionable.
31:03
Speaker 2: I played a clip of Tim Wolves earlier. His comments
31:06
Speaker 2: just so reckless you could argue inciting violence. Here is
31:11
Speaker 2: another Democrat, Mark Kelly, saying that the agitator who was
31:16
Speaker 2: shot dead here was killed for no reason whatsoever.
31:21
Speaker 14: Hey, everybody has Senator Mark Kelly.
31:22
Speaker 12: Hay.
31:23
Speaker 14: I watched that video of Minneapolis today, probably watched it
31:27
Speaker 14: a dozen times. Pretty obvious that this man was shot
31:32
Speaker 14: dead in the street for no reason.
31:37
Speaker 2: Where is the responsibility just to take a minute and
31:43
Speaker 2: let the process take place. Let's have an investigation to
31:47
Speaker 2: see precisely what happened and I've seen that video multiple
31:50
Speaker 2: times myself, and how he could come to the conclusion
31:54
Speaker 2: that that man was shot for no reason whatsoever, was
31:57
Speaker 2: just some sort of cold blooded murder without provocation. It
32:02
Speaker 2: is incredible to me, Josh, So it's incredible.
32:06
Speaker 13: And again, Rito, we just saw this. I mean to me,
32:09
Speaker 13: this is the most remarkable part of all this there
32:11
Speaker 13: is that we just saw this play out like literally
32:15
Speaker 13: two weeks ago. So immediately when Renee Good was killed
32:17
Speaker 13: by Johnathan Rossi the ice station there, they said, oh
32:20
Speaker 13: my god, it's murdering cold blood. She's trying to swerve
32:23
Speaker 13: to get away from the video. But then O wait,
32:25
Speaker 13: we saw a second camera angle. We saw the cars
32:27
Speaker 13: actually going right at john thrustigation. O wait, then we
32:30
Speaker 13: find out that there was actually a hospital record of
32:33
Speaker 13: the agent being admitted to the hospital because he was
32:35
Speaker 13: hit and he had internal bleeding around his waist and
32:38
Speaker 13: hit Perrier there. Then O wait, we saw the video
32:41
Speaker 13: of the partner saying drive baby, drive instact in there.
32:43
Speaker 13: So these things do take time to actually learn all
32:47
Speaker 13: of the details of the situation there. And I think
32:49
Speaker 13: back to those to those first moments after the Renee
32:51
Speaker 13: Good shooting. You had zoramm Donnie AOC and saying that
32:55
Speaker 13: she was murdered. Renee Goo was murdered. That's what Mark
32:57
Speaker 13: Kelly's saying here too about Alex Pray, that this is
33:00
Speaker 13: murder and cold blood on the streets of America. There
33:02
Speaker 13: have you people not learned your lesson? What are you
33:05
Speaker 13: trying to do? I mean, I mean, ironically, these democrats
33:08
Speaker 13: like Mark Kelly, they're claiming they're purporting to care about
33:12
Speaker 13: Americans feelings there actually, do you know what the single
33:15
Speaker 13: best thing, the single best thing to protect the health, safety,
33:19
Speaker 13: and security, prosperity and flourishing of the American people to
33:22
Speaker 13: have law enforcements do their job. It's not like they're
33:25
Speaker 13: going Dora door trying to find the guy who's picking
33:27
Speaker 13: strawberries down the local farm. They're going Dora door trying
33:30
Speaker 13: above all to find people like sex offenders and child
33:35
Speaker 13: sex traffickers and gang beggers and murderers and rapists and
33:38
Speaker 13: transnational criminals. That's what they're trying to do. So if
33:41
Speaker 13: you want the American people to be safe, which if
33:43
Speaker 13: you take Mark Kelly at his word, and you probably shouldn't,
33:45
Speaker 13: we were taken a word. That's what he seems to
33:47
Speaker 13: want there, then you should support Ice to the t.
33:49
Speaker 13: Final note on this, I have to know that Mark
33:51
Speaker 13: Kelly is from a very interesting state when it comes
33:53
Speaker 13: to the whole immigration conversation. He's from Arizona, a safe that,
33:57
Speaker 13: alongside Texas, has really kind of ground zero for America's
34:00
Speaker 13: ever roiling immigration wars. Does Mark Kelly think that it
34:03
Speaker 13: is good politics there in the state of Arizona to
34:07
Speaker 13: be going this soft, this soft on immigration for us
34:10
Speaker 13: and there, I think he's going to be in for
34:11
Speaker 13: a very very rude awakening when it comes to his
34:13
Speaker 13: senatorial reelection if he keeps us up.
34:15
Speaker 2: Frankly, now, we've heard plenty of reckless metric from Democrats,
34:22
Speaker 2: some of them arguably inciting violence, but the influencers are
34:25
Speaker 2: also doing their big josh. Here is one encouraging is
34:29
Speaker 2: hundreds of thousands of followers to learn how to shoot guns.
34:34
Speaker 15: You all need to be arming yourselves right now. You
34:36
Speaker 15: all need to learn how to shoot guns. You all
34:38
Speaker 15: need to learn how to protect yourselves. You guys need
34:40
Speaker 15: to learn what to do in a situation where you
34:42
Speaker 15: get detained and how to help your friends when they
34:44
Speaker 15: are getting detained. You all need to become aware of
34:48
Speaker 15: what's happening right now and how there is no protesting
34:52
Speaker 15: this without some sort of militant action.
34:58
Speaker 2: There you go, there's no so protesting this without some
35:02
Speaker 2: sort of militant action. And the coverage of this story,
35:06
Speaker 2: I've got to tell you globally is as you would expect,
35:09
Speaker 2: is the regurgitation of the MSNBCCNN line that this was
35:15
Speaker 2: just completely unjustified. These are peaceful protesters that are being
35:21
Speaker 2: shot in cold blood. But there you get an idea
35:24
Speaker 2: of the messaging that some of these activists are receiving,
35:29
Speaker 2: and sadly some of them are listening Josh and turning
35:32
Speaker 2: up to a violent protest with a loaded gun.
35:38
Speaker 13: These people like that so called influencer I've not heard remembered.
35:41
Speaker 13: Apparently he's an influencer. They're trying to get people killed. Okay,
35:46
Speaker 13: that is literally what they are trying to do. They're
35:48
Speaker 13: trying to stir up the passions and people like Renee
35:52
Speaker 13: Good and people like Alex Pray. They're trying to put
35:54
Speaker 13: them out there as Canon fighter, as Canon fighter for
35:57
Speaker 13: what I mean to accomplish, what is out there make
36:00
Speaker 13: people angrier and angrier against Ice. By the way, it's
36:03
Speaker 13: actually not even working. There was a poll from the
36:05
Speaker 13: New York Times Siena College when one of our most
36:07
Speaker 13: reputable pollsters the United States there and they did it
36:10
Speaker 13: that a lot of questions, massive survey just last week,
36:13
Speaker 13: and one of the questions was approved disapprove of Donald
36:15
Speaker 13: Trump's handling of immigration enforcements fifty to forty seven net approval. So,
36:21
Speaker 13: despite all of this, despite all the information operation from
36:25
Speaker 13: ms NOW and CNN and all the usual suspects there,
36:28
Speaker 13: the American people still still by and large support Donald
36:31
Speaker 13: Trump's immigration agenda. By the way, Hispanics were actually barely
36:35
Speaker 13: underwater by like ten points or maybe even just under
36:38
Speaker 13: that in that New York Times Siena College bowl there.
36:40
Speaker 13: So the notion that this is a huge political liability
36:42
Speaker 13: for the trumpministration, I think is just total gobbledybook with
36:46
Speaker 13: no semblance in reality there. So you're not really going
36:49
Speaker 13: to score political points. What are you trying to do? Like,
36:52
Speaker 13: what is the goal here other than to get people
36:55
Speaker 13: killed on both sides of the standoff, innocent people who
36:58
Speaker 13: are going to be riled up to try to do
36:59
Speaker 13: thequote unquote right thing there where you're trying to get
37:02
Speaker 13: more Ice agents killed as well, and ultimately read that
37:05
Speaker 13: ultimate ability is where I come down to me.
37:07
Speaker 11: It is.
37:09
Speaker 13: There in the radical left. To be a left that's
37:12
Speaker 13: going back to the French Revolution means that you believe
37:15
Speaker 13: to some extent in violence. We saw that with the
37:17
Speaker 13: murder of my friend Charlie Kirk. We've seen it with
37:19
Speaker 13: the multiple attempts of assassination on Donald Trump's life. We
37:22
Speaker 13: saw with the assassination of the Night Healthcare CEO from
37:25
Speaker 13: this socialized medicine fanatic. We see it over and over
37:29
Speaker 13: and over again. There they are willing able and times
37:32
Speaker 13: eager to resort to violence, and it's horrific, horrific stuff there.
37:36
Speaker 13: And frankly, that above balls what we're seeing playing out
37:38
Speaker 13: here along with this neo Confederates insurrection behavior that ultimately
37:42
Speaker 13: must be stomped and crushed by the sheer might enforce
37:44
Speaker 13: of federal law enforcement.
37:48
Speaker 2: Now, we've had a bunch of actors in Stained Flauencer's
37:52
Speaker 2: activists emoting wildly about what's happening in Minneapolis, But we
37:56
Speaker 2: cannot forget Steve Kerr, the Golden State Larrior's head coach,
38:01
Speaker 2: has spoken of his love for Minnesota, and he's decried
38:05
Speaker 2: the misinformation in the media about what's happening in the
38:09
Speaker 2: state of Minnesota. I think I agree with him about that, Josh,
38:13
Speaker 2: probably not for the same reasons. But there has been
38:16
Speaker 2: so much misinformation. You talked about what happened two weeks
38:21
Speaker 2: ago with Renee Good, what's happening right now with his
38:24
Speaker 2: latest shooting. But the amount of misinformation we saw in
38:28
Speaker 2: the past week about a five year old that was
38:32
Speaker 2: supposedly snatched by ice was astonishing, even by the standards
38:38
Speaker 2: we've come to us to sadly, except Josh tell us
38:42
Speaker 2: what really happened in this case.
38:46
Speaker 13: So first of all, you know, Steve Kerr is something
38:48
Speaker 13: of a said keep I mean, I remember watching this
38:50
Speaker 13: guy back in nineteen nineties, back when he was a
38:52
Speaker 13: sharpshooter for the Chicago Bulls. Steve Kerr was Michael Jordan's
38:55
Speaker 13: team antem many of those Chicago Bulls. Seems there he
38:57
Speaker 13: had a beautiful jump shot. This guy is an is
39:00
Speaker 13: it totally bonkers out to left field? Left this it
39:03
Speaker 13: was either his father or someone very close to him,
39:05
Speaker 13: Rita who was killed and a hes Bollah terrorst attack
39:08
Speaker 13: in Lebanon in the early nineteen eighties and to this
39:11
Speaker 13: day Steve Kerr is one of the biggest cheerleaders of
39:14
Speaker 13: the anti Israel Palestinian Arab caused it, which is just
39:17
Speaker 13: it makes your mind just want to explode. There, So
39:19
Speaker 13: here he is yet again there and frankly, I think
39:22
Speaker 13: back to that line from Laura Ingram so many years
39:24
Speaker 13: ago talking about Lebron James, which is just shut up
39:26
Speaker 13: and dribble, or in this case of Steve's Kurr, shut
39:29
Speaker 13: up in coach. He's actually very good coach, by the way,
39:31
Speaker 13: if he stuck to that, maybe he would have frankly,
39:33
Speaker 13: a lot more success there in our conversations like this,
39:35
Speaker 13: look this misinformation about this five year old boy there,
39:38
Speaker 13: that's not what happened. They were not going after the
39:40
Speaker 13: five year old boy. They were going after the actual
39:42
Speaker 13: father there. The five year old boy was essentially there
39:44
Speaker 13: right in the way there. But that's what they do.
39:46
Speaker 13: They take the tiniest, tiniest morsel of connection to the
39:49
Speaker 13: story and they run with it in an entirely different direction,
39:52
Speaker 13: because again, the ultimate goal here is not to deliver
39:54
Speaker 13: the truth. It is to stir the passions, as demagogues
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Speaker 13: have been doing for thousands of years there. It turns
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Speaker 13: out that today one of the biggest places where these
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Speaker 13: passions are unleashed is on federal law enforcement. So reader,
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Speaker 13: like many Americans, I pray, I really do pray for
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Speaker 13: the health and safety and efficacy of this nation's federal
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Speaker 13: law enforcement apprians because they are UNDERSEGD now, they are
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Speaker 13: absolutely underseiegs there. They need our support, they need our prayers,
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Speaker 13: and ultimately they need the courage to do their job
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Speaker 13: because the rule of law depends on Without the rule
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Speaker 13: of law, there is no society, there is no freedom,
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Speaker 13: there is no liberty, There's nothing.
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Speaker 2: Josh Amma, thank you so much for your time tonight.
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Speaker 2: Thank you still to come. Glen Beckham is said to
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Speaker 2: follow in Prince Harry's footsteps with a tell memoir exposing
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Speaker 2: his family. Kinsisco Field has the details. Welcome joining me now,
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Speaker 2: celebrity and royal commentator and host of Kinsey Schofield Unfiltered
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Speaker 2: Kinsey Schofield. Let's start with David and Victoria Beckham. They
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Speaker 2: are reportedly in crisis mode amid speculation their eldest son, Brooklyn,
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Speaker 2: is preparing to publish a tell all biography exposing his
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Speaker 2: allegedly greedy and self obsessed parents. Beckham biographer Tom Bauer
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Speaker 2: has written in The Daily Mail Brooklyn might be a
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Speaker 2: spoiled brat, but when it comes to sympathy, the twenty
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Speaker 2: six year old winds hands down. If there were ever
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Speaker 2: a victim of rapacious parents and a dysfunctional family, it's
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Speaker 2: the Beckham's eldest son, Wow Kinsey. This sounds appalling, and
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Speaker 2: yet I can't look away.
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Speaker 9: And Tom Bauer always has his hands exactly where we
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Speaker 9: want it, whether it's Harry and Megan drama are the Beckhams, Tom.
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Speaker 7: Bauer is the guy.
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Speaker 9: I don't doubt that growing up in the Beckham household
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Speaker 9: came with pressure, but I have a heart time extending
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Speaker 9: real sympathy to someone who has been handed every possible advantage.
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Speaker 9: Brooklyn has had to work for very little, married into
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Speaker 9: a billionaire family, and will never face genuine financial insecurity.
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Speaker 9: At some point, we need to reserve our empathy for
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Speaker 9: real world struggles, not extremely privileged adults who resent the
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Speaker 9: very lives their parents built for them. I think David
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Speaker 9: and Victoria understand the business, the stakes, and the long game. Brooklyn,
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Speaker 9: frankly is still figuring out who he is, and let's
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Speaker 9: hope it's not a chef okay.
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Speaker 2: Or a photographer because that photography book, Yeah, that ain't
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Speaker 2: a work of genius. But I have heard other commentators,
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Speaker 2: people who are normally trusted, say that all is not
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Speaker 2: what it seems with David and Victoria Beckham. They have
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Speaker 2: crafted this public image that's very masterful, the very likable, relatable,
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Speaker 2: but it's not authentic. What do you say to that?
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Speaker 2: I mean, I remember the whole Rebecca Lose thing, the
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Speaker 2: fact that David was sleeping with the nanny and Victoria
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Speaker 2: just look the other way and it wasn't an isolated incident,
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Speaker 2: and then it makes you question the whole persona, the
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Speaker 2: whole image they put out, whether there's anything real about it.
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Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean Tom Bower wrote a really great book
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Speaker 9: about your point right there, about how much so much
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Speaker 9: of it is theater, so much of it is highly choreographed,
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Speaker 9: and how hateful they could be towards each other in
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Speaker 9: this pursuit for fame, celebrity and money.
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Speaker 7: But I'm obsessed with it. I can't not love them.
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Speaker 7: I don't know, there's something that the ambition in them.
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Speaker 7: I admire it.
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Speaker 9: I admire the never complain, never explain they continue to
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Speaker 9: show up.
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Speaker 7: I admire the commitment.
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Speaker 2: Reader, Well, yeah, it's entertaining. I've got to say they
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Speaker 2: do make good reality TV, much better than Megan and Harry,
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Speaker 2: who will talk about shortly now. Prominent Hollywood stars have
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Speaker 2: used the Sundance Film Festival to condemn the shooting of
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Speaker 2: Alex Pretty by ice agents in Minnesota. One of these actresses,
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Speaker 2: Olivia Wilde. I featured her earlier a set that she
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Speaker 2: was appalled she was wearing an Ice out badge. Let's
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Speaker 2: hear from her again.
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Speaker 11: World is hurting right now, and this country is hurting
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Speaker 11: and it's appalling. I'm appalled, I'm sickond and we can't
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Speaker 11: go another day. Just sort of accepting this as our
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Speaker 11: new norm. It's it's outrageous people are being murdered.
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Speaker 2: Natalie Portman also had a lot to say, Kinsey.
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Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean there is something surreal about condemning Ice
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Speaker 9: whilst standing at an elite Sundance event surrounded by.
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Speaker 7: Wealth and status.
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Speaker 9: That disconnect is why critics see moments like this as
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Speaker 9: virtue signaling rather than meaningful out vocacy.
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Speaker 7: I would take Olivia while much more.
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Speaker 9: Seriously if she said, and that's why I've donated this
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Speaker 9: amount of money to the victim's family, but you never
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Speaker 9: hear you never hear that, but yes. Natalie Portman also
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Speaker 9: said that while they were at Sundance, she felt like
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Speaker 9: she was seeing beauty from Americans. They're showing up for
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Speaker 9: each other, protecting each other, and fighting for their freedom.
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Speaker 9: She said, it's a bittersweet moment to celebrate something we're
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Speaker 9: so proud of on the backdrop of our nation and pain.
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Speaker 7: So I don't know. It's a double edged sword. Acknowledge it.
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Speaker 2: They're so desperately out of touch. It really is kind
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Speaker 2: of comic cool, but it is also pathetic because you
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Speaker 2: never hear them come out and say anything when you
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Speaker 2: have innocent people slaughtered by people who are in the
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Speaker 2: country illegally. They say nothing about the fact that the
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Speaker 2: murder rate in the US dropped by around twenty percent
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Speaker 2: last year, the biggest drop in a single year. That
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Speaker 2: care about that. All they care about is this sort
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Speaker 2: of division and regurgitating the hard lefts talking points and
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Speaker 2: pretending they're somehow enlightened and kind. I mean, give me
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Speaker 2: a break. I've got very little patience for them, and
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Speaker 2: very little patience for Kristen Stewart and other actress who's
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Speaker 2: gone on an insane anti Trump rant saying she wants
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Speaker 2: to make movies in Europe then shove them down the
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Speaker 2: throats of the American people because reality is breaking under Trump. Kinsey,
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Speaker 2: she is about the worst actress I think that's come
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Speaker 2: out of Hollywood in the last two decades. But tell
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Speaker 2: me about this new political activism from.
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Speaker 7: Her, I mean, is it new?
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Speaker 9: Every time she doesn't wear pants, I'm assuming she's trying
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Speaker 9: to make some form of a political statement. But Christian
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Speaker 9: Stewart preaching morality is a tough sell for audiences who
46:56
Speaker 9: remember her very public controversies. This is the same woman
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Speaker 9: that she on Robert Pattinson with her married director in
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Speaker 9: front of the entire world. People are done being lectured
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Speaker 9: by Hollywood, and the industry is now paying the price
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Speaker 9: for that disconnect.
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Speaker 7: A lot of them are unemployed.
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Speaker 9: We talk a lot about how there's no work here
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Speaker 9: for entertainers thanks to Gavin Newsome.
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Speaker 7: But it's also this lecturing right here.
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Speaker 9: People want an escape, they want to get away, and
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Speaker 9: they're tired of being told about how awful the world
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Speaker 9: is by these people in Chanel that are living their
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Speaker 9: best lives.
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Speaker 2: And it's just so vacuous. That's the problem. If these
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Speaker 2: were people who had taken the time to be fully
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Speaker 2: informed about an issue, and we're talking from a position
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Speaker 2: of deep knowledge, they need go Okay, there's at least
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Speaker 2: something we're learning here, but it's always so vacuous and pointless. Now.
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Speaker 2: Prince Harry Megan Mikael also appeared at sun Dance to
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Speaker 2: promote their latest documentary, Cookie Queens, which follows the story
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Speaker 2: of four determined girl scouts as they navigate the multimillion
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Speaker 2: dollar business of cookie sALS. Kid See the doco is
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Speaker 2: already turning out to be a bit of a flop.
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Speaker 2: It failed to sell out and fill the theater even
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Speaker 2: at the Festival's that's not a good sign.
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Speaker 7: It's not a good sign.
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Speaker 9: You'd imagine that celebrities would be crawling, you know, so
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Speaker 9: excited about being associated with royals in some way, shape
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Speaker 9: or form, but that just wasn't the case. Is the
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Speaker 9: lights went low and the film began roughly one hundred
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Speaker 9: and fifty unoccupied seats.
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Speaker 7: Scattered throughout the theater.
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Speaker 9: Page six reports that weightlisters, which are you know, the nobodies,
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Speaker 9: slowly filled empty places that were reserved for the high
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Speaker 9: profile Sun Dance passholders, who mostly ignored the visiting royals
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Speaker 9: the night before. Just to give you an idea, the
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Speaker 9: same theater was so packed for the invite premiere that
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Speaker 9: one hundred ticket holders were turned away. So it's not
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Speaker 9: a good look. But I we do love girl Scouts.
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Speaker 9: We APOLOGI Jasen Megan Mirkle's gotten involved with them. But
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Speaker 9: god love girl Scouts.
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Speaker 2: And I love cookies. So you know, this stuker seems
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Speaker 2: to be have a couple of positives. But before you go,
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Speaker 2: The producers of Broadway show Seeks the Musical have defended
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Speaker 2: their decision to cast transgender influencer Dylan mulvaney as one
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Speaker 2: of the main characters and boilin the second wife of
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Speaker 2: King Henry the Eighth, after copying major backlash from social
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Speaker 2: media Kinsey they even restricted their ex account and condemned
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Speaker 2: bully in all its forms in response to some of
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Speaker 2: the feedback.
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Speaker 9: Look, some of the commentary is fair, and that feedback
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Speaker 9: is the feedback getting under Dylan's skin. Some people are
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Speaker 9: challenging whether Dylan earned their spot for their talent or
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Speaker 9: was given the opportunity based on their infamy. Dylan believes
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Speaker 9: they have the talent. Not my favorite, Anne Boleyn, but
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Speaker 9: I will tell you that if King Henry the Eighth
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Speaker 9: would have caught Ane Berlen with a hot dog down there,
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Speaker 9: she probably would have lost her head a lot sooner.
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Speaker 2: Yes, I think you'd be right right Bekins's Gophil, thank
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Speaker 2: you so much for your time tonight, and that's it
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Speaker 2: for me. Newsnight is up next