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A Little of Everything Today... · Billy & Lisa in the Morning: The After Show

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  Speaker 1: What a party people have to show podcast in on
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  Speaker 1: I should say not in it's on right now, and
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  Speaker 1: Riley is here. Thank you.
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  Speaker 2: Riley body Rock is in the heuse.
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  Speaker 1: You're in a good mood. Well, there's someone who got
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  Speaker 1: cheated on.
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  Speaker 2: It was a while ago apparently, So.
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  Speaker 1: Dude, I'm telling you, listen, we'll break this down. But
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  Speaker 1: it could have been so much worse. You could have
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  Speaker 1: been still with him and then found out could have
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  Speaker 1: liked him. He could have broke up with you, and
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  Speaker 1: then you find out this layer could have been much worse.
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  Speaker 2: It was significantly worse.
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  Speaker 1: I agree, Yeah, but damn what a loser. So you
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  Speaker 1: were with him for like six or seven months. I
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  Speaker 1: remember this guy because we talked about it, and then
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  Speaker 1: I remember when it broke up because it kind of
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  Speaker 1: fizzled out.
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  Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, it was just kind of like it had
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  Speaker 2: run its course.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, So then you broke up and then you find
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  Speaker 1: out yesterday from your best friend that he was basically
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  Speaker 1: cheating on you. Some are most of the time. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: with a girl in Nashville. Oh, I wanted to ask
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  Speaker 1: this off the air. In your opinion, was the girl
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  Speaker 1: because you know who the girl is. She's from here,
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  Speaker 1: but lives in Nashville, and he would cheat on you
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  Speaker 1: with her when she would come visit. Right, she better looking, oh,
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  Speaker 1: not as good looking.
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  Speaker 3: I actually was trying to find her Instagram so I
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  Speaker 3: could show you a picture because I kind.
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  Speaker 2: Of figured you don't want to know.
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  Speaker 3: It's probably had to like, but like, yeah, I couldn't
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  Speaker 3: figure out her Instagram.
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  Speaker 2: She I haven't seen her in a while.
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  Speaker 1: Is she a knockout?
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  Speaker 2: No?
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  Speaker 1: No, then yeah, yeah, not that it matters, but but.
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  Speaker 2: It matters a little bit you think about it.
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  Speaker 3: It makes you feel a little bit better to be
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  Speaker 3: like well, and also like from the stories, I'm not
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  Speaker 3: saying this like in a derogatory way. From the stories,
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  Speaker 3: it sounds like she's kind of a whore, so like.
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  Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised. Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised. There's
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  Speaker 1: a saying, Okay, I don't use this saying. I'm just
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  Speaker 1: saying what's what's said? Obviously I don't cheat. I don't,
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  Speaker 1: you know, cheating my wife, never have ye eighteen years,
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  Speaker 1: I've never cheated on my wife. Not to brag, just
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  Speaker 1: hold on, hold on, hold on, rowdy, hold on, stop bragging.
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  Speaker 1: Not bragging. But I never have. But there is a
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  Speaker 1: code amongst cheaters, and that is you never cheat down.
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  Speaker 1: You always cheat up. Do you understand what that means?
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  Speaker 1: If you're gonna cheat on your partner, your girlfriend, your boyfriend,
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  Speaker 1: or whatever, you don't cheat with somebody that is not
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  Speaker 1: as good looking or at a lower place in life,
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  Speaker 1: if that makes sense. If you're gonna go that way,
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  Speaker 1: you want to cheat up?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, you're just like even more of a loser.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So I have a good friend of mine who's you know,
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  Speaker 1: his significant other was cheating. Yeah, and they cheated down.
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  Speaker 1: And I was saying that to him because you know,
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  Speaker 1: he was broken up about it. He's getting through it,
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  Speaker 1: getting better, he's doing a good place now. But I'm like, dude,
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  Speaker 1: she cheated down.
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  Speaker 2: You never do that.
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  Speaker 1: You won exactly.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, It's like she's a cheater and he's ugly.
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  Speaker 1: Right, And then and then you want so listen to
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  Speaker 1: this makes feel like shit, but you win, Yeah you do.
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  Speaker 1: I think you do win, But listen to this. Then
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  Speaker 1: recently he was with another girl that he a new
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  Speaker 1: girl that he's dating who was very attractive, and he
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  Speaker 1: was on a train randomly in Boston, Okay, and guess
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  Speaker 1: who was seated on the train right in front of him,
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  Speaker 1: the guy. The guy, now, he had never met the guy,
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  Speaker 1: but obviously he was. He said, He's ninety nine percent
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  Speaker 1: sure it was him, and the guy obviously knew who
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  Speaker 1: he was, and so he was like standing there and
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  Speaker 1: the guy just kept looking down at his phone, texting ferocious.
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  Speaker 2: Like goodbye new cart. He did not do this.
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  Speaker 1: Well, they said. He didn't want to like cause a scene,
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  Speaker 1: especially with his new girl. Yeah, what are the chances
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  Speaker 1: of that?
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  Speaker 2: I know that's actually crazy.
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  Speaker 1: So I asked him, I said, so, the girl that
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  Speaker 1: you're seeing, how does how is she? Is she attractive?
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  Speaker 1: He goes, very, very attractive? I go, there you go?
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  Speaker 1: You won?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, listen, you don't want to cheat, You
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  Speaker 1: don't want to do that, but if you are, I
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  Speaker 1: guess you want to. You want to at least improve
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  Speaker 1: your situation, if that makes sense. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: So, okay, wait, there's another part of this story that
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  Speaker 3: I didn't even tell you.
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  Speaker 1: But is this an after show exclusive?
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  Speaker 2: I guess?
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  Speaker 3: So, yeah, everybody tune in. Yeah, baby, So the girl
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  Speaker 3: that he cheated on me with, can I just say
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  Speaker 3: their names.
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  Speaker 1: Now or it's still not that's up to you. It's
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  Speaker 1: not up to me.
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  Speaker 3: The story is going to be like kind of convoluted then,
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  Speaker 3: but I'm going to try to not say their names.
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  Speaker 2: I guess, so.
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  Speaker 1: There I wouldn't.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: So there's two girls that were at this dinner with
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  Speaker 3: my best friend Abby, and they again I went to
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  Speaker 3: high school with them, and they were friends with the
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  Speaker 3: girl that was cheating.
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  Speaker 1: Let's call her Nashville.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so they're friends with Nashville.
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  Speaker 3: And I guess one of the girls that is not
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  Speaker 3: the cheater, but one of the original girls. She also
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  Speaker 3: dated my ex back in like high school or like
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  Speaker 3: right after high school. And I guess when like right
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  Speaker 3: after her and my ex broke up, the three of
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  Speaker 3: them were all at the cheater's house, the Nashville girl.
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  Speaker 4: And.
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  Speaker 3: They didn't know that he was in the house and
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  Speaker 3: they so they the three of them were like split up.
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  Speaker 3: At one point for some reason. The two girls in
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  Speaker 3: Nashville was like in her room and all of a
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  Speaker 3: sudden they could hear them having sex.
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  Speaker 1: Oh wait, okay, so the guy and who which girl
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  Speaker 1: one of Nashville. Oh, so she was hooking up with
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  Speaker 1: Nashville all the way back.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, they've been like, I guess.
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  Speaker 1: They're fuck friends too, they call that right.
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  Speaker 3: I honestly didn't even know that they were normal friends,
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  Speaker 3: let alone like knew each other's bodies.
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  Speaker 1: So wow, So this goes way back.
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  Speaker 2: Apparently they could still.
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  Speaker 1: Be hooking up.
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  Speaker 2: It wouldn't surprise you.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, if she comes and visit why does she? So
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  Speaker 1: does she? She lives in Nashville but comes to visit
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  Speaker 1: family and stuff here, Is that right?
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  Speaker 2: That's what it sounds Well, maybe she's coming to visit him. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: but that's what it sounds like.
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  Speaker 3: She just like and I don't know how often she
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  Speaker 3: came home, like within the six months. It could have
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  Speaker 3: been twice, it could have been eighteen times.
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  Speaker 2: I have no idea even one time as wrong. No,
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  Speaker 2: I agree with that, like one time makes you a cheater.
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  Speaker 1: But like, but didn't they say the two friends that
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  Speaker 1: were talking to your best friend? Didn't they say, like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: the whole.
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  Speaker 3: Time, he said the whole time, Yeah, which means it
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  Speaker 3: has to have occurred a couple times for it to
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  Speaker 3: be the whole time, or else they would have just
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  Speaker 3: said he cheated on Riley.
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  Speaker 2: But they didn't say.
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  Speaker 1: That can I show a question about the breakup though
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  Speaker 1: with him? I mean, when you say you got bored
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  Speaker 1: of it, was it that you didn't you just weren't
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  Speaker 1: into him, or did it seem like he was really
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  Speaker 1: not into you Maybe he wasn't putting forth the effort
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  Speaker 1: or was he really trying, but you just weren't into it.
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  Speaker 3: It was like I just didn't feel like we were
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  Speaker 3: like very good together, Like he was very much like
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  Speaker 3: the youngest and was like babied and like it was
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  Speaker 3: one of those things where it'd be like I wish
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  Speaker 3: that you would like plan a date, Oh okay, and
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  Speaker 3: then it would never happen, and it'd be like, what's
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  Speaker 3: like what are we doing here? Like are we just
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  Speaker 3: never going to do anything? But also this is like
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  Speaker 3: a meat problem. I mean it's like somebody else might
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  Speaker 3: not have an issue with this, but I did. He
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  Speaker 3: didn't like his job, like he so he quit this
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  Speaker 3: other job that he was on, moved to Utah for
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  Speaker 3: two months, and when he right when he was coming back,
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  Speaker 3: that's when we started dating. So he was looking for
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  Speaker 3: a job, just took the first job that he got,
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  Speaker 3: didn't like it and complained the whole time. But wouldn't
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  Speaker 3: look for another job, wouldn't like quit, and like I
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  Speaker 3: was like, I don't like, I don't care about you
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  Speaker 3: complaining about the job that you don't like when you're
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  Speaker 3: not doing anything to fix it.
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  Speaker 1: Was it a good job?
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  Speaker 3: No, it was just like an entry level like marketing
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  Speaker 3: thing for like home depot or something like. I was like,
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  Speaker 3: I don't if you don't like it, fix it, don't
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  Speaker 3: complain to me.
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  Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, like that.
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  Speaker 2: No, it was annoying.
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  Speaker 3: Like I felt a little bit and this is kind
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  Speaker 3: of horrible, but I don't really care. I felt a
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  Speaker 3: little bit like I was better than him, and it
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  Speaker 3: was just.
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  Speaker 1: Like, well, not so much that you're better than him,
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  Speaker 1: but you definitely probably had more drive.
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  Speaker 2: That's what I meant.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I felt like my goals were like bigger than
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  Speaker 3: his and it wasn't like aligning.
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  Speaker 1: Correct. You want to be with something. I'm big on this, Like,
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  Speaker 1: you want to be surrounded by people, whether it's a
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  Speaker 1: lover or a friend, that are progressing in life.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I've gone on this rant on this podcast a million times.
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  Speaker 1: If you're surrounded or you're around people that don't do
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  Speaker 1: don't progress forward like a hamster on a wheel. Then
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  Speaker 1: guess what, You're not going to progress either.
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  Speaker 3: Right, It like slows you down on where you're trying
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  Speaker 3: to go in life.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you want to have like a progression. If you
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  Speaker 1: look at my wife and I, you know, we're always
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  Speaker 1: progressing in some way, whether that's in our careers or
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  Speaker 1: recovery of parents. Right, I mean she's in NP school
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  Speaker 1: right now. You know I'm trying to progress in my career.
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  Speaker 1: So you want that, So that makes sense. I get it. Now.
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  Speaker 1: Why you when you say you got bored with them?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I just again just like felt like it
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  Speaker 3: had run its course. I was like it was like
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  Speaker 3: good for what it was for, Like just like did
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  Speaker 3: you break up with him?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: And it was like kind of like my first like
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  Speaker 3: real like solid relationship that I'd ever been in, So
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  Speaker 3: like it was kind of like a stepping stone.
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  Speaker 2: Was he since? No?
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  Speaker 3: I mean like I like I dumped him where he
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  Speaker 3: was like towards the end, it was like really like
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  Speaker 3: I was like, oh my god, you're like not listening
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  Speaker 3: to me and I don't even want to like see you.
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  Speaker 3: Like it was right after I went to the Galopagos, right,
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  Speaker 3: like remember that trip that I went on the Equador trip. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: So before I left for that, I was like when
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  Speaker 3: I come home. I came home on a Sunday, I
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  Speaker 3: was like, I won't be able to see you till
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  Speaker 3: later in the week because I am working a Bruins
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  Speaker 3: game on Tuesday, and I was like.
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  Speaker 2: I just don't want to like have like a late night.
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  Speaker 2: I don't want to be work.
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  Speaker 3: I want to just like be home for a couple
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  Speaker 3: of days after that and then I'll have like a
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  Speaker 3: late night on Tuesday. So I can't see you till
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  Speaker 3: later in the week. And the second I got home
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  Speaker 3: on Monday, he was like, hey, come over and I
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  Speaker 3: was like, well, you didn't listen to what I said
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  Speaker 3: before I said i'll see you on Thursday. We had
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  Speaker 3: a plan to see each other on Thursday, and you
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  Speaker 3: didn't listen, And also like I no, And he like
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  Speaker 3: kind of made me feel like a little bit bad
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  Speaker 3: about it, like he was like, oh, well, what.
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  Speaker 2: You don't want to see me? No, obviously not. That's
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  Speaker 2: when I.
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  Speaker 1: Said it times to me too. It's not so much
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  Speaker 1: it's it's that you had more drive than him, but
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  Speaker 1: also you seem to be a bit more mature.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, probably than him.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and then like I just was like, I don't
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  Speaker 3: like you know, and what was the other thing that
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  Speaker 3: I was going to say? There was another part of this, Well, oh,
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  Speaker 3: I dumped him in my driveway, so.
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  Speaker 1: I've done that drive He was like in front of
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  Speaker 1: the blue door.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, right in front of the blue door. I was like,
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  Speaker 3: he was like, hey, you want to sleep over? And
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  Speaker 3: in my head I was like nope, no, no, no, no, no, no.
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  Speaker 1: No want over his house.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: So I was like I have to dump him like
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  Speaker 3: tonight because I was like I don't want to do that.
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  Speaker 3: That's where my head was at. And so I was like, hey,
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  Speaker 3: we need to talk. So he knew obviously once you
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  Speaker 3: hear those words, you know, so.
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  Speaker 1: He didn't even try to say, you know, let's work
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  Speaker 1: it out. I'll change, I'll do things different. Nothing okay.
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  Speaker 2: But also why even if you had said that, I
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  Speaker 2: don't think I would have cared.
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  Speaker 1: I think in life, you know, when you when you
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  Speaker 1: as we get older and when you're younger, right when
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  Speaker 1: you're twenty, your twenties or even thirties, well specifically twenties
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  Speaker 1: are younger. When you hear people that are older say
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  Speaker 1: you have so much more to learn. You know you're
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  Speaker 1: going to see when you get older, and you're like, yeah, whatever,
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  Speaker 1: it's It's so true because a lover in your twenties
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  Speaker 1: is from a man's perspective, is much different than in
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  Speaker 1: your thirties and into your forties, you know what I mean,
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  Speaker 1: That's just how it is. And I think that you
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  Speaker 1: need to find somebody that, if they're the same age
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  Speaker 1: as you, needs to kind of be on your level
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  Speaker 1: of maturity. I think. Yeah, in other words, sure, you
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  Speaker 1: can't date a fuck boy. No, that's really what it is.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Like even if you think you can change and
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  Speaker 2: you can't.
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  Speaker 1: Like to me, do it. I've learned, and I should
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  Speaker 1: say from mistakes, I've learned that it goes so far
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  Speaker 1: when you do things like plan as the guy, when
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  Speaker 1: you go the extra mile, when you listen and you
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  Speaker 1: remember things you know. And I fall short on that sometimes.
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  Speaker 1: But those are things that I kind of have learned
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  Speaker 1: through trial and era as you get older. So in
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  Speaker 1: other words, when I'm listening to you talk about these things,
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, wow, that was me, that was me not listening.
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  Speaker 2: Then I did change and didn't cheat on people.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I cheated on people in my life.
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  Speaker 2: You didn't my wife.
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  Speaker 1: Well, when you're young, dude. Okay. So I had a girlfriend,
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  Speaker 1: my first serious girlfriend, and she got arrested. Okay, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: she got a well it's crazy story. I want to
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  Speaker 1: go to the whole story. But she got arrested in
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  Speaker 1: New Hampshire. We were living in Boston. She got arrested,
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  Speaker 1: she was on probation, got arrested again, got sentenced to
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  Speaker 1: a year in jail. Okay. Yeah, So while she was
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  Speaker 1: in jail, yeah, we were pen pals and she would call,
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  Speaker 1: but I was so messed up. Yeah, I was partying,
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  Speaker 1: I was sleeping with other girls, was a complete ship bag.
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  Speaker 1: But I was still keeping in contact with her. Okay. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so I probably cheated on her a million times in
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  Speaker 1: a year. You know, I was all messed up. So
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  Speaker 1: then she gets out and we're still together. So if
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  Speaker 1: she gets out and you know, she could tell, it's
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  Speaker 1: actually very similar to your story. Besides the drugs. I
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  Speaker 1: was checked out, you know, because I had already been
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  Speaker 1: living my life. But you know I was like, my
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  Speaker 1: ego was like, that's still my girl. So when she
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  Speaker 1: got got out, she could tell something wasn't right. She
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  Speaker 1: ended up cheating on me with a guy and I
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  Speaker 1: found out, and when I tell you, I was so
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  Speaker 1: upset and so hurt. Never once did I think about
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  Speaker 1: I just cheated on her thirty thousand times, but that
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  Speaker 1: didn't matter.
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  Speaker 2: Mind right in front of you, How could you do that?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah? You know, I remember like I was gonna go
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  Speaker 1: beat the kid up. It was a huge deal. And
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  Speaker 1: then I'm like, yeah, it's not cool. But yeah, that
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  Speaker 1: was like my first theer, and I made every mistake
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  Speaker 1: possible with her. I mean, there were drugs involved, but
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  Speaker 1: that's that's I.
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  Speaker 2: Still made mistakes and you learn and you grow, you do.
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  Speaker 1: I did get a lot of messages Riley about you
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  Speaker 1: doing the stupid dating on Sunday.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 14:10
  Speaker 1: The thing is that she's only picking one couple, right,
• 14:13
  Speaker 1: so all those people are going to sign up. I
• 14:15
  Speaker 1: think it would be weird if.
• 14:16
  Speaker 2: If it's like, oh skip the line, yeah do it?
• 14:19
  Speaker 1: All the radio girls going to be there.
• 14:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well it made it.
• 14:21
  Speaker 3: Lisa kind of made it sound like they were going
• 14:23
  Speaker 3: to pull one couple like on stage, but there was
• 14:26
  Speaker 3: going to be like like jewels might set up other people.
• 14:30
  Speaker 1: Oh okay, I don't know if that's.
• 14:32
  Speaker 3: One hundred percent truth. That's just like how I interpreted
• 14:34
  Speaker 3: what Lisa said one day.
• 14:35
  Speaker 1: Well, you should still sign up.
• 14:37
  Speaker 2: I think, is it like a sign up thing, like
• 14:39
  Speaker 2: when you get Yes, there's.
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: A QR code you scan with your phone and you
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: put in your information and then Jewels and her people
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: try to match you. So it really wouldn't be she's
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: going to pick the best matches, right, So it's not
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: necessarily her doing you a favor. I think. I don't know.
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: I guess she could pick you if she wanted, right,
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: she's going to want to go for the best matches. Yeah.
• 15:00
  Speaker 2: Wait, So where's the QR code.
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: It's when you get to the event. Oh, okay, it'll
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: be there. You scan the QR code. That's how it works.
• 15:07
  Speaker 3: I'm going with my friend Abby and she just started
• 15:10
  Speaker 3: dating this guy that she like a first couple of
• 15:12
  Speaker 3: dates and she but she really likes him.
• 15:14
  Speaker 2: So she was like, I don't have to be set up, right,
• 15:15
  Speaker 2: And I was like, no, it's not like that. She
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: was like, okay, good because I really like this guy.
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, she can just come and watch. Yeah are
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: you working out?
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: No?
• 15:23
  Speaker 3: No?
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: Are you going to come and watch people work out?
• 15:26
  Speaker 2: I don't know, Like now, I'm like, what time do
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: I have to get there?
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: Like, well, it starts around twelve.
• 15:31
  Speaker 3: The work sounds weird to be like, Hey, I'm here,
• 15:33
  Speaker 3: but I'm not working out. Like the first half hour,
• 15:36
  Speaker 3: I know that you guys are working out.
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: Maybe come at like one, Yeah, that's what I would do.
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: But then it's like, is that too late?
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: We'll have to know what the vibe is.
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know what the schedule is, but I'll
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: be there. We'll be there at noon and I'll be
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: there with zeb.
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: Are you going to stay for the whole thing?
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: I think? So? Is this parking m I think so.
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: I'm not sure they have another event. Well, they have
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: another event going on kind of simultaneously and there's parking
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: for that, so maybe they'll be parking for both.
• 16:07
  Speaker 3: Is there like parking around there. I've never been to
• 16:09
  Speaker 3: the tall Ship?
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: Me neither.
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: Oh, so this is a bill question.
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, yeah, right now we're just too dumb, but
• 16:16
  Speaker 3: just telling each other exactly.
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it'll be fun. I'm gonna work out in the
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: morning and then I'm gonna go home and shower and
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: then go because I don't know what the works. Well,
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: the Batista boot Camp is thirty minutes. There's no weights,
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: it's gonna be all you.
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: Know, It's like Pilate's kind of vibe.
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: I think so or like jumping jacks and push ups
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: and set ups things like that.
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: A Lisa said that all of his workouts are really hard.
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: Have you seen him? Yeah he's ripped, dude, Hell yeah no.
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: I literally said to Abby yesterday. I was like, I
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: hope he brings a bunch of muscly guys.
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: He will, oh he will. He's gonna buy all the
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: All the people that go to his classes are all
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: ripped guys and girls. So maybe I'll meet somebody there.
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: That'd be good.
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: It's really good.
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: The problem with that is that like sometimes people who
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: are like really into the him I wouldn't like vibe
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: with me. I'm really no, just like I'm not really
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: into the gym obviously by the everything about me, and
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: like sometimes it's just like if you take that so seriously,
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: and I take that so not seriously.
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: People don't like.
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: That, right, But look at although look at my wife
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: and I she.
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: Doesn't work thinking that.
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: But you guys are like you got into the into fitness,
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: like after you were together. Or it's like going into
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: it being like there's always like I feel like eighty
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: percent of the time, guys who were like really into
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: fitness are like, oh no, I don't care that you're
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: not into fitness.
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: And then when you're not into fitness, they're like, why
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: don't you come to the gym. It's like, Okay, you
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: knew I wasn't into fitness. What the hell?
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah I don't want to Yeah, I get it though.
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: That's why I don't faulter or anybody that doesn't work out,
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: because I remember what that was.
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: Like.
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: I'm dealing with my son right now. He's nine years
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: old as a kid, but every every time it's boxing day,
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: he's like, I don't want to go. I don't want
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: to go.
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: So easy to not go, It's so easy, that's the thing, Like, yeah,
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: going is very difficult.
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: You should have heard me yesterday. I meant to tell
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: you and Billy this this morning, I picked him up
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: from the Boys and Girls Club yesterday for boxing and
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: he comes out and he's like, I can't go to boxing.
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: Like why, He's like, look I look on his arm
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: and he had a cut. Yeah, it's just like a scrape.
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: It looked like it had been bleeding. It was not
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: deep at all, right, And I'm like, let's go, and
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: he's like, oh, I can't, I can't. I that's crying. No,
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: I can't. I can't lift my arm. I go, dude,
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: it's not a muscle injury, you know, Like, what are
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: you talking about? It was a big, huge thing. We
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: get in the car and I'm like, do you this.
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: We need to fight through these things. You have a cut.
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: I know it probably hurts right now, but once you
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: want to be fine? Are you a champion? What are
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: we doing? Like? Are we like? We can't let these
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: things hold us back. I go, Abel, you're doing boxing
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: what you wanted to do. When you get punched in
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: the face in a match, what do you do? Cry?
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: No, you have to learn to work through these things.
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: And he eventually like got it and he was like, okay.
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: Fine, So he went and he was fine when he
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: got there, he was fine.
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: He did all the he did a lot of the
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: footwork stuff, but the punching he only used his left hand.
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: I feel like sometimes like you really got to like
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: push through in the sense that it's like once I'm there,
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: it'll be fine.
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: That's like everything.
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, listen, I say to him after we're done, because
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: no matter what he does the class, after the class,
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: he's happy, he's fine, And I go, dude, you never
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: leave a workout feeling worse than when you went in.
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: It's just about showing up. Just whatever your head tells
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: you don't want to go, just show up and you'll
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: be good, you know. And so then this morning, my
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: wife texts me and goes he wants to know if
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: he has boxing today. Yes, he does, okay, because he's
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: saying he doesn't want to go. So of course we
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: go to song. This is at seven thirty.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: I FaceTime him and he picks up. He's like, yeah, Dad,
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: I'm ready to go. I'll be there today. We'll work
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: through it. I'm a champion.
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: Oh boy, that's so funny.
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, Well, I hope that.
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: He's going to like really like I come an athlete.
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: Like not an athlete. Well, he is a baseball player.
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: He has a really good arm, and you know he'll
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: pursue that obviously, But all I want to do is
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: instill in him the discipline. Yeah, and not just the discipline, sorry,
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: the love and the discipline of exercise because I really
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: do believe in it, and I think that if you
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: can get get him at a young age he can
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: really it's going to really have a positive impact on
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: his life. I really truly believe that when you have
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: that outlet, especially with him. You know he has ADHD.
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: You know, I think that would help in that sense
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: too as he gets older. So you know, listen, it's
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: a four days a week. I only make him go
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: two for an hour each time. He can do more,
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: he can do he can't do less. He has to
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: do two or he can do more.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know.
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: And uh, and I'll get him private lessons and then
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: he does baseball and I just wanted to be active.
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: Man.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know I want him. I saw I saw
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: him meme the other day and it was a it
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: was a mom at a base kids baseball game, and
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: it was like, I pay all this money so my
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: kid can play baseball to keep them away from drugs,
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: and now I feel like I have to sell drugs
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: to to be able to pay for all the sporting stuff.
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: I was actually gonna say, like to twice a week
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: is good that you don't make him like if he
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: doesn't want to do all of it.
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: He doesn't have to.
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: But in my head a little bit, I was like,
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: parents pay so much money to do so much athletics,
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: Like it's crazy.
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that one's not bad. It's like one hundred and
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: one hundred and something dollars a month. And then but
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: I just signed him up for travel baseball for the year. Yeah,
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: it was like twenty five hundred.
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's like baseball and any sport you do
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: comes with like you have to buy stuff that's and
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: it's obviously going to be expensive. But like baseball, realistically
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: it's like cleat's bat glove. Those arely expensive things. Like
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: at least it's not like hockey or never do hockey.
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: Even like stuff that.
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: You wouldn't think is going to be that expensive, like
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: dance or gymnastics. You're like, you're not even like buying
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: that much stuff so expensive. Like I give so much
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: props to parents, especially parents that are like not making
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: a lot of money, who are like, no, I want
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: my kids to do athletics and I make it work. Yeah,
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: Like that's very impressive. Being a parent at all is
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: very impressive.
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: But also it's like staying on him to I want
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: him to have fun and enjoy it. First. I'm not
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: one of those parents. I'm not a screamer parent. I'm
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: really not. But you know, when I in seventh grade
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: or sixth or seventh grade, I played all three three
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: sports a year, and then I just decided because my
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: friend my k new friends that were not athletes and
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: they smoked weed that I didn't want to do any
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: more because they didn't and my parents were like cool.
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: And I just feel like if they gave me that
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: extra push, I mean, they wouldn't saved my life and
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: and stuff. But having somebody push you is so important
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: and that's what makes a great coach. So I think
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: as a father, I need to push him to do
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: better and to show up for things and to have
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: that discipline. That's just my thought.
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: And I think as long as they still love it, it's good.
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: I feel like once once it tips over to like
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: I don't like it and I'm miserable even though you're
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: pushing me and I'm disciplined and whatever, then that's when
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: it's like, well.
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: I mean, look, if he's not that you do that.
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: If he gets to a point where he's like, I
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: don't want to play baseball anymore, yeah, but I'm still
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: going to hit the gym. I'm like, Okay, that's fine.
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: That's like I feel like we always say that to Lisa,
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: like with Riley. It's like, does Riley still like golfing?
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: And she's like he loves it? It's like good and
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: he's good at it.
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: He's good at it and he does love it.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: It is easy to love something that you're good at.
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: I will say that, Yeah, it's hard to love something
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: that you're Yeah, it was me.
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: That's a great Well, that's a good point. I think
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: that's why he loves baseball so much because he can pitch.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: He can throw the ball hard, much harder than everybody else.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: He knows he's good. He can hit the ball, makes
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: you feel good. So that's why he tried soccer when
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: he was younger. He hated it.
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so I always sucked at sports. Really yeah, not
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: the best, not the most athletic person ever here.
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: Okay, but you're good at other things? Uh what do
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: you do? Actually?
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: Great question?
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: No, you have stuff that you do? What is don't
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: you have hobbies that you do?
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: This is so funny because the executed on his mom
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: one day was like do you mean, have any hobbies?
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: Like she was like so rude to me, but I
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: was like it made me think.
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: I was like, hmm, I have a lot of hobbies,
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: just a lot of them aren't like physical hobbies.
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: Right, that's what I mean. Yeah, I know you read
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: a lot.
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I do read it.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: But like, what do you do when you go home?
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: Well? I hang out and do what I read.
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: Right, Okay, do you have any other hobbies?
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: Well, I still like to play golf, even though I'm
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: not very good at it.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: Okay, that's good.
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: Other than that, nothing do you draw? Do you write? No,
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: you don't write. Can you tell me you kept a
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: journal or something? Did I make that up?
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: I tried to write a book one time. Oh it
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: didn't go for well what it? Honestly, I don't even
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: really write.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: It was a while. It was like COVID. I was like,
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: I'm going to write a book.
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: Okay, I was. I was thinking about writing a book too.
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: One day.
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: I think I still think I could write a book
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: if I like, actually like wanted to.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: I don't know if it would be.
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: Good West I going home and reading, go home and write,
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: But I like reading. I do too. I read the
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: Karen read a book was do you want it? Are
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: you into that?
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: I don't know, Oh the one that Dave w Yeah
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: that fast.
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I read the whole thing. Yeah, I'm a
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: fast reader. It was good. Yeah, there were some things
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: that I didn't know because I knew the story obviously
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: we covered it in the show. But there are a
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: couple of things that I was really surprised at. It
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: was just a really crazy case. All the players, all
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: the wheels in there, and really like Turtle Boy and
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: all his people and all the harassing, especially the John
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: o'keeff family. I didn't agree with that.
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: I know that we like talked about it at length
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: on the show. I don't remember anything from the King.
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: Oh really, like I put not like a true crime
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: kind of gap.
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's hard. Well, it's hard to decide what the
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: truth is. And that's how Dave. Dave presented it, presents
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: it in that way. You know, there's two different sides
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: of the story, right, there's she ran him over, whether
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: she was drunk but she ran him over, or he
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: went in the house and was killed in the house.
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: And there's really evidence the kind of point to both. Right,
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: the taillight that smashed and then in the house, like
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: they redid the basement the dog. The dog went away.
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: There was one of the guys in the house was
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: being flirty with Karen Reid. The text messages they had.
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: Them, and they got rid of their phones, got rid of.
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: The oh my god, right before they were getting like
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: subpoena the phones. Two of them got rid of their phones.
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: That's what I mean. Oh, and then of course the
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: big one, how long to die in the cold? The
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: Google search right, which says it was at two thirty
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: seven am, which meant it would have been way before
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: the body was found. But then their defense was it
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: was really at six thirty seven, oh, whenever after the body.
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: Was found, which makes sense.
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: So it's it's a fucking so convoluted the whole story.
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: I don't know what to think. By the end of
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: the trial life, I really was convinced that she ran
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: them over but just didn't remember it was an accident,
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: like she was just so drunk and she reversed back
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: and hit him and then he was left to die
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: in the cold.
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: When I read the book, and I'm like, and also.
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: She had that that video before like the trial and
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: stuff where she was like, I hit.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: Him head, Yeah she did say that, or she says
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: I think I hit him. I think I hit him.
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: But there's just so much evidence or weirdness that happened
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: in the house with those people, right.
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: But if you were drunk and we're driving drunk and
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: all of a sudden, like the guy that you were
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: with or you were married to or whatever that you
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: were fighting with at the time is like dead right
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: where your car would be. I feel like in my head,
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: i'd be like, I hit him, like I had. Even
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: if you didn't, like, I feel like you might be like,
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: oh my god, I think I think I hit him.
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: I think that's how she said it in that way.
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: Like you're like, I don't know.
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: But realistically he could have been like it was like
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: the if she didn't do it, it's the perfect storm
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: to make.
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: Her like, yeah, like she did it. Yeah, it is crazy.
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: And then you know it would be if he was
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: killed in the house, then that what they brought him
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: outside and left him there.
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean to frame somebody like it also could
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: have been like they tried they were going to plant
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: it on anybody whose car was there or something, and
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: then they were just like it just so happy, It
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: just so happened to that it worked out that it
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: was her.
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: And then you also had Michael Proctor and the shoddy investigation.
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: They didn't even go to go in the house. The
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: way he talked about her, it was just really fucked up.
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so I don't know, I don't know what to
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: think of He will read the book, then it's good.
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: I'll bring it a little bit.
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: Like Dave's a good writer. He lays it all out easily,
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: and I like how he really put a lot of
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: the story about John o'keefes family.
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he reminded people what like, yeah, because the guy lost.
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: He really was a good guy, John o'keef from what
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: it seems. I don't I didn't know him, but the
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: way he lays out his story, he was a good guy.
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: And not to mention, this is one part of the
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: story which I knew but always forgot about, is he
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: took care of his niece and nephew because his brother.
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: His sister and brother in law both died. So the
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: sister died of I think cancer, okay, and then a
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: couple of months later, do you.
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: Know this, the brother in law died from something.
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: You know, Okay, he went to her fucking grave and
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: had a heart attack at her grave. Yeah, he literally
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: died of a broken heart, like a couple of months after.
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: I didn't know that. So then you had John take
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: care of these two kids and then John dies.
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, these poor kids.
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: And everything was like, you know, I get a Karenry
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: and Karenry and Karen Reid free Karen Reid. But you know,
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: I just didn't think the other side. Yeah, didn't really
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: get this.
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: I keep getting a lot of tiktoks about the Lindsay Clancy.
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: I like it's like now it's like Oliver and not obviously,
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: but like I don't know why. My algorithm is very
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: much like on the side of like.
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: He did it.
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: I saw that that he set it up. Yeah, because
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: that can't that theory be thrown out because he's on
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: video at CBS and getting food.
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: No, not that he did it, but almost like he
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: like set it up that way. It's the way that
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: people are talking about it. And again this is just
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: on my algorithm.
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: Is there.
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: They're saying that he knew that she had said, Like
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: I'm not right, I like I might hurt the kids.
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: I might hurt myself, and he thought he didn't like
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: want to be in this situation anymore, and thought like perfect,
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: like she'll take out the kids and then take out herself.
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: And I can't get off Scott free, which.
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: He's now has a new family already, like he I
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: think the way that people are making it sound is
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: like he hoped that she would not be alive that
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: way he would just get to like start over completely free.
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: And I don't know like why, people like, I don't
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: know what his motive of that would be. Obviously, I'm
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: not like into the case. I just see like tiktoks,
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: but like if.
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: That's no, I see that, I see that theory too,
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: I don't. I just don't all about that to me.
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: I don't know enough about it to be like, oh
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: I believe that.
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: I'm just like that's.
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: Well, I get it. It is strange that she had
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: shown signs right that she was obviously I was having
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: thoughts of hurting the kids. He knew that, and then
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: he left her alone.
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: Right multiple times too. Multiple times he would go and like.
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: Go out every night, right like and then I saw
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: people saying which you would relate to or you know
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: what I mean, is that they were like, if somebody's
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: a drug addict, you don't leave them alone and say, hey,
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: don't do drugs when there's drugs in the house. If
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: they're saying I'm going to relapse, Like if this lady
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: was saying I might hurt somebody and then he just
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: left her alone with the.
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: Kids, how do you do that to your children? Though,
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: if it's in fact that's true. Yeah, yeah, you know,
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: like how does she do that to her children first
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: of all? And then you know mental No, I know,
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: it's that's why I don't want to talk about the
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: case because I just came stop thinking about the kids.
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: I know, it's like it's awful.
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and again I've said whether there's no winners in
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: this case, even if she goes to a mental institution, Yeah,
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: she might never get out. She's in a wheelchair and
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: she's living with that for the rest of her life.
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: Or if she goes to prison, then that's even worse. Yeah,
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: you know, there's no it's just a really terrible.
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: Case when like when she was asking for help, if
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: if instead she had gotten help, like do the drugs
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: could still be alive?
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: The drug list is nuts that they prescribed her. Oh really,
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, when they had the doctor on the stand
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: yesterday and they're reading off the list of drugs, did
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: you prescribe this you? Yes, yes, yes. I granted she
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: didn't take all the pills, but still that's a lot
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: of prescription.
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like a cocktail of drugs.
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: And then I did see, like I must have been
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: on Bill's News or something like in the morning when
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: I came in that they had somebody on the stand
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: and they were like, did you put in the case
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: file like when you were talking to her like a doctor,
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: that you've felt like she like it was gonna hurt
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: somebody or like was depressed or having whatever. And they
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: were like nope, mmm, like you're gonna prescribe that many
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: drugs to somebody and not have like that you're worried
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: about their mental state in the case file that seems.
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: I mean, she was hospitalized, she was imm crane hospital.
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: I don't know, it's crazy.
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: I just anything with kids, I really have a hard
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: time with Yeah, I really do. I have a hard time.
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: Like I watched the Perez Hilton video even that you know,
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: when I was when I was younger, man, like that
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: stuff did not bother me when I say young, before kids,
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: I really could watch anything. I kind of was like,
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: I watched a lot of horror movies as a kid.
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: I saw a lot of killings, and then when the
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: Internet came along, I saw all the most horrible stuff
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: isis beheadings, just terrible, terrible stuff. But then when I
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: had kids, it all changed. I can't even watch a
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: horror movie. It just does something to me. I don't know,
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: I can't explain it. If anybody knows what that is,
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: please let me know. But the Perez Hilton video, did
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: you want? You don't watch it? Right, don't even watch it.
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: It's just terrible. I mean, speaking of mental health, it's
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: the same thing.
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: He went on TikTok Live last night. There were a
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: couple other people in the group thing, and he had
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: a complete mental breakdown and he was just cutting himself,
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: non stop, bleeding everywhere, button naked on camera on live,
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: slicing his neck, I mean, and he wasn't like slicing
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: it deep but deep enough for blood, and he just
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: kept going his I mean, Riley, he's in the hospital now.
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: His whole body's gonna be covered in scars. That's really
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: fucking sad.
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: It's really really sad, a severe cry for help.
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah.
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: And the fact that like other people were on the
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: TikTok live with him and like it wasn't getting shut down.
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: Like this man is like thirty minutes it was on there.
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: That that's yeah crazy.
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: I think they just didn't I don't know who those
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: people were, but they were because it was a it
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: was a share a screen share, right, shared screen, I mean,
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: and so the other people didn't know. They were like, dude,
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: don't what are you doing? Like what are you doing? Like,
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: don't don't crash out? What are you doing? I don't
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: think they really like.
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: Got the extent of it, okay.
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: And then uh, and then ye had took thirty minutes
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: for TikTok to take it down. They got him to
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: the hospital. I haven't seen the latest update, but it.
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: Sounds like people were in the live too, just like
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: reporting it, like yeah, spam reporting it to try to
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: like get him help and have it taken down and stuff.
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: That's just I don't know, Like it's mental health. It's
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: sad that like it had to get to that point.
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, mental health is very very real. It's very very real.
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: A lot of people struggle with it, especially in like
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: the recovery world. It's called dual diagnosis. If you have
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: an addiction problem and mental health. It's like a double
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: WHAMMI Yeah, so many friends like that. You know, not
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: only are they battling not drinking and drugging, but then
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: once they get clean and sober, then they have to
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: deal with bipolar depressions, schizophrenia. Yeah, it's anxiety. Yeah, it's real.
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: It's hard because it's like it's not something that you
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: can see, Like even though we're I feel like a
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: lot of people are better in this day and age
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: of being like no mental health. Like it's real, Like
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: there's always gonna be people that are like, why can't
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: you get out of bed? What do you mean you
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: can shower, you can't brush your teeth. Yeah, it's like
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: you just because I'm like not physically hurt doesn't mean
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: that there's not something happening that's like preventing people from
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: living their life to the fullest extent.
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's why with the exercise thing, I always
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: harp on that we talked about my son and all that. Yeah,
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: it's because I was on all those pills. I was
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: diagnosed as bipolar depression borderline personality disorder. Up until I
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: got clean, I was off and on depression meds NonStop,
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: and they had side effects. Yeah, but once I'm not
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: even kidding, once I started working out and I got
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: really into exercise, I never needed a pill again, you know,
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: because that's kind of my foam of therapy, you know.
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: And it's not a pill that I have to swallow,
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: not there's anything wrong with it, that's just it personally.
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: That's just what worked for me. You know. I don't
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: feel happy all the time, but I have not felt
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: a depression, you know, because I kind of have that outlet.
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: But I was on everything prozac. I remember being in school,
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: I think I was in high school and the alternative
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: and they put me on I forget the name of
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: the pill, but had a side effective drowsiness. And I
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: remember sitting in class and I could not stay awake.
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: They'd have to wake me up, like I'd be a
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: fast asleep every day in class.
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and a lot.
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: I had a lot of sexual side effects too.
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember you saying that like one time.
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know what she's doining My body processed
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: the drugs, but all right, well we'll about to wrap
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: up here. Look who walks in, Dude, McCabe is here. McCabe.
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: He's coming on the show next week, Riley. Yes, yeah,
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: a yeah, I'm copying Riley. You're getting booked right here. Yes,
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: he's doing a solo travel trip. Do you know about this? Riley?
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: No?
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: I didn't.
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: Oh my god. Okay, well this is an after show exclusive,
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: big exclusive guys. Yeah, so he tells me earlier in
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: the week. On Monday, he goes, I'm on vacation the
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: same week as you, guys, not next week of the week.
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: After he googled, now what you want to take a trip?
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: So tell Riley what you googled.
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: I want to google flights and I put in from
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: Boston to anywhere non stop, and I saw I'm like,
• 38:04
  Speaker 4: what's what's the coolest destination cheapest too, the coolest for cheapest. Yeah,
• 38:09
  Speaker 4: so I'm there was like a five hundred dollars flight
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: to Dublin and a five hundred dollars flight to Madrid.
• 38:17
  Speaker 4: I'm like, shit, let's go to Madrid.
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah wait, that's sick.
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: So I'm going to go to Madrid for a week
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: and by himself. Yeah. Wait, fun I'm so excited. I
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: can't wait.
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: Do you speak Spanish?
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: So?
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: I actually so.
• 38:30
  Speaker 4: My first major in college was Spanish in education. Like
• 38:34
  Speaker 4: it's going to be a Spanish teacher. Like I've taken
• 38:36
  Speaker 4: like seven years of Spanish classes. I can read it
• 38:38
  Speaker 4: pretty well. I can't speak it anymore.
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: But yeah, you can understand something. I can understand it.
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah you get yeah, you'll get a Yeah, I might
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: understand that.
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: Your Madrid is very English forward.
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: I think a lot of those countries are because they're like, oh,
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: we want your English people money. Yes, exactly. So he's
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: been planning on this vacation, says he has an itinerary.
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm one hundred percent planned. I went psycho over
• 38:59
  Speaker 4: the weekend and just planned it immediately.
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: This is awesome, pumped, this is cool. You guys want
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: to come? Yeah, you're going on this vacation same week.
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: I know. I'm going to Florida. Oh yeah, going in Naples? Interesting? Wow, Massage?
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: Uh?
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: No, Bill has a house then Costa Yeah really? Yeah
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: I didn't know that. Yeah, my wife and I gotta go.
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: No kids, no kids, so it'd be good. Yeah, dude,
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: you're going to Spain. I'm going to Florida.
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Also, he has no kids, so you're not invited.
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: Oh dude, you know how much you know Rich McCabe is,
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? Pretty well? You really understand how
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: much money people have who don't have kids. It's oh yeah, I.
• 39:39
  Speaker 4: Don't know why you would ever do that to yourself.
• 39:41
  Speaker 4: Do you get joy out of them?
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: You like them? Yes? Absolutely? The love I feel like
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: if I had kids, I wouldn't like him. There's no better.
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: That's a big fear of mine. Actually, Like I.
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: Would like, what if I don't like you? Like I can't?
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: I can't? Funny you say that my son, who I
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: loved daily. But there were times there were times this, Yeah, no,
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: there were times where I'm like, I know I, I
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: say to my life, actually, not that cool. I love you,
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: I love him. I would say this to him to
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: my wife. I love him.
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: I don't like him, not like him right now?
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, But that's family.
• 40:11
  Speaker 4: Like I love my parents to death. I would do
• 40:16
  Speaker 4: anything for them. Would I ever be friends with my
• 40:21
  Speaker 4: mom or my dad?
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: Would I hang out with them? With choice? They're much
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: older than.
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: Your parents.
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: Is different than you having kids.
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: There's always that the theory that you should not be
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: friends with your kids because you need to be a parent.
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: You need to be a parent, You need to teach
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: your lessons. Yeah, growing up, there were kids who had
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: the cool parents, right, they were smoking, drink together, drink together,
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: bias job alcohol.
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, not my parents.
• 40:48
  Speaker 4: That's like so tricky because like, what if you turn
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: them into an alcoholic.
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: Well, that's what happened. That's exactly what happened to a
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: lot of these I.
• 40:55
  Speaker 4: Guarantee that's what would have happened to me if my
• 40:57
  Speaker 4: dad wasn't sober. Guarantee it is he sober? Yeah, forty five.
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: Years So no way, you never told me that X alcoholic.
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah that's forty five years. Wow he's eighty something now,
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, yep, wow that's cool. Does he go
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: to did he go to meetings? And it's oh yeah, yeah, hardcore. Yeah.
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: How's he doing right now? Healthwise? Not great? But you
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: know what suck. He's living and that's what matters. That's
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: is he home. He's home, he's home. How's how's your
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: mom's health? Okay, okay, better than his? Yeah?
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: By very old for context for anyone listening, I have
• 41:28
  Speaker 4: very old parents.
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: Like, yeah, well you've been you've told us unhealthy. You
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: were adopted and then adopted kind of later in life,
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: right right right, and they got you a real star. Yeah,
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: look at you. So it aide me a star. They
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: really did so so so star. So when you go
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: to Spain, do you already have a whole plan of
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: things to do? I do.
• 41:46
  Speaker 4: I have. I have pretty much every day kind of
• 41:48
  Speaker 4: planned out. I have reservations everywhere.
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: That's my favorite.
• 41:52
  Speaker 4: The main reason I travel is to go eat places. Yeah,
• 41:55
  Speaker 4: like that's almost the entire reason. The entire reason I'm
• 41:58
  Speaker 4: doing this trip is because I just need to get
• 41:59
  Speaker 4: a away from you guys for a little bit.
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: I understand.
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm going to be here texting whom Mikey V
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: When I need music?
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: What the hell?
• 42:07
  Speaker 4: You text the program director? That's what that's the that's
• 42:12
  Speaker 4: the boss. Oh no, I don't want to do that,
• 42:15
  Speaker 4: but if I have to, wake, Mikey usually fills in
• 42:17
  Speaker 4: for me. You weren't here in the era when Mikey
• 42:19
  Speaker 4: was actually the apde.
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah I was. Yeah, I mean Mikey could help, right, No,
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: he will, He's gonna help. Yeah, he still is.
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: You were just joking when you said that I had
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: to text Dylan.
• 42:32
  Speaker 4: I mean I would text Dyllan before I text my key.
• 42:34
  Speaker 4: Oh really, because then he can text my key.
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: One time you were.
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: One time you were out and I had to call
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: Mikey for music and I woke them up.
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: I felt that used to do that every day I did. Yeah,
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: I have no shame. I'll call you at three in
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: the morning if something messed up.
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: I'll call you when you're here.
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: I do call you because you said that I'm the
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: only one you Me and your parents are the only
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: people that can get through your try to story.
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: Oh you have a set in your phone. Only certain
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: people can get through those? Are my four? How how
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: is Riley on there? But I'm not.
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: Who's the fourth Gianna understand the home phone? Oh even better?
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: I'm special?
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Oh my god, Yeah wait because I don't. I
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: just like I didn't usually. Here's the thing.
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: He did that when it was like really early in
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: my being here, where it was like anything could go
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: wrong and I'd be like fuck.
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: But like, Riley needs help.
• 43:25
  Speaker 4: Sometimes you're a big, strong boy who like thinks not
• 43:29
  Speaker 4: that not that gender comes into this at all.
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: It doesn't. Okay, you've been here for twenty years. I
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: can usually figure that you can figure it out.
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well you need music.
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: Well today actually, actually, today's.
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: The really reason why I'll call you sets.
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: I don't know if I get in trouble for this,
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: but we were really short at the end of the
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: seven o'clock hour. Okay, so we were a song short.
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: Oh interesting, Yeah, So what I did was I went
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: to the drop song that was dropped at the end
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: of the four o'clock hour, that did not play the
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: last song, and I put that at the end. What
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: was this? Is that bad? What song? Okay? Let me
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: tell you right now.
• 44:04
  Speaker 4: The only issue that might come up, not to go
• 44:06
  Speaker 4: inside baseball is now that you've played that at seven o'clock.
• 44:11
  Speaker 4: Our music scheduling software, oh might not know that you
• 44:15
  Speaker 4: played it at seven because it thinks it played it
• 44:17
  Speaker 4: at four and it put it scheduled it at seven.
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: But it did it. It was it got it got
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: recincd out. That means it deleted it. It doesn't know
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: it didn't it doesn't know. Okay, So in the seven
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: o'clock I have fun in hell. Sorry, the last song
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: was Gracie Abrams. That's so true. And then I added
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: the drop song from two hours prior which was Kesha,
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: we are who we are. It could be worse. Okay,
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: pretty good. I felt like that.
• 44:43
  Speaker 4: Was you want to when you're scheduling music, Oh, this
• 44:46
  Speaker 4: is good. You want maximum variety. So like if you're
• 44:50
  Speaker 4: playing Gracy Abrams, you want to go something completely different. Next,
• 44:53
  Speaker 4: like you want Nelly Fork. No, you want Nelly Ride. Okay,
• 44:58
  Speaker 4: all right, you want like a hip hop song, Okay.
• 45:01
  Speaker 4: After that, you want Sabrina Card come back to the center.
• 45:04
  Speaker 4: You want the big pop song Okay. Then after that,
• 45:07
  Speaker 4: let's play a rock song. Let's play Alex more in
• 45:09
  Speaker 4: Ordinary shoot song.
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Alex McKay. Ordinary was there. It was between Ordinary, Kesha,
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: Arianna Into You and Olivia would have got perfect. Okay,
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: this is good to Docter Gracie. Yeah, big pop song
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: and then a big like.
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: This is so funny because I sit in these music
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: meetings every single Monday, and I genuinely sometimes I'm like,
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: I don't think I processed a word they said, I know.
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: I go, I like that song.
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: It's so funny.
• 45:36
  Speaker 4: Everything that happens on this radio station has been thought through. Yeah,
• 45:40
  Speaker 4: to the dumbest point.
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: Absolutely, if you hear something we talked about it, Yeah,
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: I believe that what we're going behind the music right
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: here on how to schedule.
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: This has been the most interesting podcast I know.
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: We started with Riley getting cheated on. You know, we
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: went to dating someone.
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: No, I just found out that the guy I dated,
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: like a couple of years or two years, good word,
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: was cheating at me.
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: The whole time.
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: Good thing you listened to topic time this morning? Wow
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: o cabe.
• 46:04
  Speaker 4: No, I was on a call this entire morning, a
• 46:06
  Speaker 4: call quote a call actually from nine am, so I
• 46:09
  Speaker 4: probably could have.
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, her ex boyfriend was cheating on her the whole time.
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: She found out last night. Yeah, there was a girl
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: in Nashville that was flying up and he was a
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: running that's crazy. Yeah yeah, pretty pretty fat guy.
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah fuck that guy.
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean it would be worse if she was
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: like still with him, or if she was really into him.
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: But she really was he was your boyfriend? Yeah? How long?
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: Like six or seven months?
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: Wow? Yeah? I never dated someone that short.
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: He actually was short?
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: How short? He was shorter than you?
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: No, but likes not that short. Fight so he was
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: a little taller than you, like, not cute he was okay, okay.
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: Well now I'm looking at him completely different. At the time,
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: I would have said, yeah, he's super cute, and I'm like,
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: ew disgusting.
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: I saw him. He's not he's not. How tall are
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: you can do better? No? Yeah, you gotta be five?
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: No?
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: Are you sure? I'm just under six feet? Let me
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: say stand up? Oh yeah, wow, Okay.
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: I give tall.
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: That's amazing. I think that's a good thing. A Mackay,
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: what day you want to come in next week on
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: the show? Does it matter? Tuesday?
• 47:21
  Speaker 4: Wednesday? Wednesdays? Coming early on Wednesday because of the street clean Okay,
• 47:27
  Speaker 4: let's plan on Wednesday at nine am. Okay, so you
• 47:30
  Speaker 4: can come in and talk about Spain and can we
• 47:32
  Speaker 4: ask you if you are hoping to meet a Spanish lad?
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: Entire goal? Isn't it? Well? Food? You know what it is.
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: It's food and gay sex.
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: Whoa whoa, whoa? Hey is Madrid really?
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: Okay. Honestly, when you said tell her what you googled
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: that you're going to be like gayest cities.
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: And I was like and then when you said, oh,
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: I just put in flight and fo, I was like, oh,
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: this is not where.
• 47:57
  Speaker 4: I know we're joking about the richness, but that that's
• 47:59
  Speaker 4: not me I need a cheap flight.
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I get that.
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: Well, you do come off as somebody who still like
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: has this newspaper or delivering money, you know what I mean? Yeah,
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: I mean yeah, save your money's good. Yeah. I invest well.
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: You know really yeah, like into the stock market.
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 48:16
  Speaker 4: I'm unfortunately once in a while quite capitalist, and now
• 48:21
  Speaker 4: I can never run for office.
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: So can you give me any tips? No, I have
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: a guy I need.
• 48:26
  Speaker 4: Actually I had a guy and I got dropped because
• 48:29
  Speaker 4: I don't spend enough money with them because they want
• 48:31
  Speaker 4: to make money off.
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they're like a million. It was. It was like
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: they're like, hey, you gotta be like investing like millions
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: a year.
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: Oh millions.
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, ship the millions that you they dropped you? Yea.
• 48:42
  Speaker 4: So now I'm with like the eight hundred number, which
• 48:45
  Speaker 4: is so I'm actively looking for a new financial.
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: Advices millions of dollars to invest? Who are you Billy costing?
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: I didn't know. I don't mis guys, I didn't see.
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: I don't have my brain.
• 48:57
  Speaker 4: I have millions of dollars to invest. That's why I
• 48:59
  Speaker 4: got dropped that much money.
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: No, do you have a four oh one k? A
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: huge four a one k. Do you put a lot
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: into it?
• 49:05
  Speaker 4: Invest as much as I can and it's smart. When
• 49:08
  Speaker 4: I was I was actually talking to Frankie V about
• 49:09
  Speaker 4: this last when we went to dinner. Well he's and
• 49:17
  Speaker 4: that's where I was going because he is the cheapest
• 49:19
  Speaker 4: person you'll ever meet in your entire life. But he
• 49:23
  Speaker 4: has a good amount of money.
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: He does. And when you say that, I can, I can.
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: I can back you up on that. And he was
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: really one of the first people because we worked together
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: like ten years ago, that told me that he put
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: the max amount of his four A one k And
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: I was like, really, so, yeah, he's been saving for
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: a long time. But do you know the backstory there
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: with them with the v Bros. They're poor. They grew
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: up poor. Yeah, but they grew up with no money. Yeah,
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: you know, so they were always they didn't have a lot.
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: So I think that there's always that fear exactly being broke.
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: My parents, you know, they're generally middle class. But he
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: he would get the worst ground beef. He would turn
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: off all the lights kind of ship. You know. My
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: dad's like that, but worse than that somehow.
• 50:05
  Speaker 4: But so Frankie we were talking about last night because
• 50:07
  Speaker 4: we both worked at edar Com back in the day.
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: I also noticed that everybody went out to dinner.
• 50:11
  Speaker 3: No invite for the billion Lisa in the morning show
• 50:13
  Speaker 3: in Justin Oh, so just no invite for me?
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: Got it?
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Actually we didn't even invite Billy and Lisa.
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: Well, because it's like, where were you that you got
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: an invite?
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he asked me. Yeah, but I couldn't. Where'd you
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: have come?
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: Where was it?
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: If you just want a free dinner? Yeah, well then
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: that's not Frankie.
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: Okay, Frankie got the free dinner.
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: M Is that commed? Did he comm is? Good?
• 50:39
  Speaker 4: Guys, they're opening a Karma in the South End, first
• 50:43
  Speaker 4: one in the city.
• 50:43
  Speaker 3: I also heard that there were getting a dim Sum.
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: We being Boston, there's eight million dim some places.
• 50:53
  Speaker 3: Like the dim Sum. That's what it's like. There's like
• 50:56
  Speaker 3: only ones in l A.
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: Oh, isn't that just dump? Like isn't that just dump?
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: I'll google it and actually give you the ring story
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: land dim Sum.
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just like dumplings and Chinese food. Oh okay,
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: all right, So anyway, what if Frankie say, yes, oh.
• 51:10
  Speaker 4: We it came up because we both worked at Intercom,
• 51:13
  Speaker 4: and I was like a part timer making seven to
• 51:15
  Speaker 4: fifty an hour.
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: Seven twenty five was the minimum wage.
• 51:18
  Speaker 4: And instead of like taking my paycheck, Intercom, let you
• 51:22
  Speaker 4: have a four oh one k even if you were
• 51:23
  Speaker 4: a part timer. Great company back then, different now apparently.
• 51:29
  Speaker 4: So I literally just took my entire check and put
• 51:32
  Speaker 4: it into the four one k.
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: So live on and I was able to move it
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: over to Uh iHeart, I know, would you live if
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: that was in college? Oh? So that was like my
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: fun my fun job.
• 51:44
  Speaker 4: Okay, so I had like three different jobs at three
• 51:47
  Speaker 4: different companies. I worked at Target, I worked in Saga
• 51:50
  Speaker 4: Communications is in New York com Yeah, oh so I
• 51:53
  Speaker 4: would live off my Target paycheck and I would uh
• 51:57
  Speaker 4: put Intercom just back in money.
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're a smart man, didn't is what I was
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: trying to say.
• 52:03
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, it's coming to the prew like
• 52:05
  Speaker 4: down there. Yeah, there's one in that.
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: So what's Gianna's like favorite place in the world. But
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: even she was.
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: Like, its famous. I want to go. It's just it's dumplings,
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: I know, But I like dumplings.
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: I love dumblings, and.
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: I want to eat their like chocolate bow.
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's cool.
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: But what we learned from McCabe, I don't know. I'll
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: tell you.
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: We learned in the last seven minutes. We learned that
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: Riley is not going to learn the countown this weekend.
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: Oh but you got it to me earlier minutes.
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: Okay, I'm a fast learner, not that fast.
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: We learned that McCabe is a multi millionaire who only
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: books chief flights.
• 52:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: I also learned my name is Frankie V. I'm the
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: gay Frankie V. All right, well, mccab you booked for Wednesday,
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: so lock that in. Okay, nine am here, Okay, put
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: me on account. Even live radio. You know I love
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: you know I used to do that. I do know that.
• 52:56
  Speaker 4: I still do it every day at two pm in
• 52:59
  Speaker 4: there every day live for morning radio.
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: You know I did mornings for six months. Done everything.
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: You're like the you're the fucking radio doogie dame job.
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: I've done it. Yeah, I know.
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: Trash compactor, I've done that toy in yep.
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I love the trash compactor.
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: It's so toilet cleaner man.
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I've never been paid to clean a toilet jiz mopper.
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: That every day.
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: Oh oh Riley. Oh all right, Riley, thank you McCabe.
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: He doesn't know what to say, but thank you. This
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: is the after Show. It's no holds barred here.
• 53:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah, don't hold him, clearly, Yeah, don't hold holding something again?
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: All right by By