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- 0:51A b he. Y'all, welcome today's show. We will continue with the
- 1:03Anglican who is questioning the priests and the classic work radio replies, and then
- 1:08we'll get into fairly fascinating subject actually the foundation and spread of the church.
- 1:17So the person asks the priests, Rumble and cardi have not the patriarchs of
- 1:26the Orthodox Church admitted Anglican orders? And they answer, firstly, there is
- 1:32no such thing as a united Orthodox Church. That's you know, people get
- 1:36really confused about that, but it is. The Greek Orthodox Church is very
- 1:41different from the Russian Orthodox Church. For instance, there is some unity,
- 1:48there's a great deal of division, and there's a great deal of disagreement.
- 1:52The Greek Orthodox Church was very ready to reconcile with the Catholic Church and become
- 1:59Catholic. I guess it was what the sixties seventies, and the Russians said,
- 2:06absolutely not put their foot down. You know, that was a matter
- 2:09of really Soviet influence. Now the Russian Orthodox Church tends to be a bit
- 2:19more solid in its biblical beliefs and practices. You know, there's lacking a
- 2:30pope, they lack leadership. The pope has a final say on all matters
- 2:35of morals and doctrine. Without a pope, you don't have that. There's
- 2:38no like one central figure that can tell all Orthodox churches this is truly what
- 2:46we believe. And you know, there's almost more like a council. You
- 2:53know. Imagine if we had the cardinals with no pope, and they got
- 2:58together for their fairly ridiculous synods every now and then, and some of them
- 3:05said this, and some of them said that, and depending on what nation
- 3:07you're in, you pretty much followed the ones that follow the opinion of your
- 3:14leaders. That's kind of what it boils down to. And I know that's
- 3:16a broad statement. Some will take a issue with it, but historically,
- 3:21yeah, it has not been in any way a unified church. But they
- 3:24say there is no such thing as a unified Orthodox Church, nor can the
- 3:30admissions of one or two sections of that church be quoted as the universal judgment
- 3:34of the Greek Church. Secondly, the Greek bishops do not claim infallibility.
- 3:38They may say this is our opinion, but they cannot add and our opinion
- 3:43is certainly true. In other words, the admissions of some isolated Greek patriarchs
- 3:47prove nothing. That's why you need a pope. Thirdly, such opinions,
- 3:53as some patriarchs may have expressed, was based upon defective information. They could
- 3:59judge only upon the information given them, but the true facts were not put
- 4:02before them. High churchmen submitted to exposition of the case, against which Anglican
- 4:08newspapers in England protested strongly as being a most distorted view of the Church of
- 4:14English principles. The verdict of a misinformed Greek bishop cannot avail against the verdict
- 4:20of a well informed Anglican bishop such as Bishop Knox. And you know,
- 4:26really, any unity, I might say among the Anglicans and Orthodox fell apart
- 4:32again in the sixties and seventies when the Anglican Church demanded that they ordain female
- 4:41priests. That ended any talk of reconciliation essentially between the Anglican and Catholic Church,
- 4:50or true unity between the Anglican and Orthodox Church. And of course,
- 4:55now the Anglicans ordained homosexuals and practice gay marriage. You're not going to get
- 5:00a whole lot of Orthodox agreeing with that. Whatsoever person says, is the
- 5:04decision of Rome regarding Anglican orders irrevocable? And they answered, yes, it
- 5:10is an infallible decision concerning a secondary object connected with and necessary for the defense
- 5:15of revealed dogma. We have to accept the decision not from a motive of
- 5:20divine faith, but because of the infallible authority of the Church. The question
- 5:25was submitted to a thorough and even sympathetic consideration, the Pope, knowing that
- 5:30if Anglican orders could be admitted as valid to as valid, the road to
- 5:35reunion would be much easier. But the evidence compelled the Pope to declare them
- 5:41invalid. Pope Leo the thirteenth definitely adopted this decision of the appointed Commission and
- 5:47published the condemnation Condemnation with his own infallible authority to support it. No Anglican
- 5:55clergyman could officiate in the Catholic Church without being ordained by a Catholic bishop.
- 6:01And the person continues, well, at least you cannot quarrel with Anglican teaching.
- 6:05And of course they said, I am afraid I would have to ask
- 6:08you to tell me what you believe to be the teaching of the Anglican Church.
- 6:13Anglicans hold all kinds of contradicting, conflicting beliefs. Doctor Gore writes a
- 6:19book on the Church of English doctrine, and Bishop Barnes flatly contradicts it.
- 6:25I have a dozen Anglican books on the Church of engl doctrine, and all
- 6:30explain it differently. Anglican teachings, however, do conflict those that are of
- 6:34Christ. And this person says, can you tell me how, And they
- 6:38say, all Anglicans at least accept an Erastian Church subject to political and parliamentary
- 6:44authority in England and throughout the world. They deny the necessary of necessity of
- 6:49submission to the lawful authority of the successor of Saint Peter, the present Bishop
- 6:55of Rome. Again, half the members of the Anglican Church say that they
- 7:00believe in the real presence of Christ and the Eucharist, and have say they
- 7:03do not believe in the real presence of Christ and the Eucharist. Now Christ
- 7:06said hear the church. If the Anglican Church were the true church, which
- 7:12half must men believe as the teaching church. As a teaching church, Anglicanism
- 7:18fails and is compelled to tolerate such men as Bishop Barnes who openly deny the
- 7:24explicit doctrines of Christ. And the person answers well we Anglicans have the same
- 7:30Apostles Creed as you Catholics. And they answer, you recite the same creed.
- 7:34It's very important you recite the Apostles Creed in the Methodist Church. I
- 7:41believe we did in the Presbyterian I do not recall ever reciting the Creed in
- 7:45a Baptist church, but the Creed was recited in the Methodist Church. They
- 7:50say, you recite the same creed, but you do not believe in the
- 7:54true Catholic sense. Catholics recite and accept the Apostles Creed in Practicelicans recite it.
- 8:01All anglic Can say, I believe in Jesus Christ has only signed our
- 8:03Lord. Many Anglicans do not believe he is truly the son of God.
- 8:07All Anglicans say, born of the Virgin Mary, but many to deny the
- 8:11virginity of Mary. And you're not gonna find a whole lot of Methodists that
- 8:16believe in the perpetual virginity of for the blessed Virgin Mary. All Anglicans say,
- 8:20I believe in the Holy Catholic Church, but none of them joins it,
- 8:26or if he does, he ceases to be an Anglican. Actually,
- 8:31in the Methodist version of the Creed, we have a little asterisk that says
- 8:33Catholic means universal. Well, that's true. Catholic does mean universal, and
- 8:39all Christians in the universe are supposed to be part of the one church called
- 8:43Catholic founded by Jesus Christ. Otherwise there is no church where the Methodist doctrine
- 8:52has no more authority than the universalist Unitarian doctrine, which, yeah, that's
- 9:01pretty confused, or the Mormon doctrine, which denies the divinity of Christ.
- 9:07All angler can say, I believe in the community of the Saints, but
- 9:11few dare enter into communication with the Saints, And yeah, you're not going
- 9:13to find any Methodists that I know of, or Baptist certainly, or Presbyterians
- 9:20that pray to the Saints as the one holy Catholic and Apostolic Church has practice
- 9:24for over two thousand years now. All say I believe in the forgiveness of
- 9:30sins, but the vast majority ignore the sacrament of confession, and most Protestants
- 9:35will tell you flat out only Jesus can forgive sins, No man can forgive
- 9:39sins. You turn to the Gospel John, where it says those who sins
- 9:43you forgive or forgiven, and those who sins you retain or retained. And
- 9:48they're dumbfounded. They've never even heard that passage before. If they have,
- 9:52they try to explain it away in the most convoluted sense one can possibly imagine.
- 9:58The truth is the pre in the confessional has the full authority of Jesus
- 10:01Christ to forgive or refuse to forgive sins. Anglicans may recite the Creed,
- 10:11but most Anglicans certainly do not realize what the words imply. And I think,
- 10:16yes, I think that is a very true statement of any Protestant church
- 10:20that recites the Apostles Creed. Now, let's get into the thrust of today's
- 10:30program, which is from Father Sparaga's classic work, The Exhaustive Explanation of the
- 10:35Catechism of the Catholic Church, The Foundation and Spread of the Church. Christ
- 10:41compare the Church to a grain of mustard seed, which is the smallest of
- 10:43seeds, but grows into a tree in which the birds of the air build
- 10:48their nests. Now, if you're a gardener, if you grew up on
- 10:54a farm, if you know what the plant we call mustard is, you
- 10:58may find that a little confusing. The mustard seed that he referred to was
- 11:03actually the seed of a tree, not the mustard we ze greens, not
- 11:07the mustard we make the condiment mustard out of. And it was a large
- 11:11spreading tree that grew in the desert, which would give shade to people.
- 11:18You know, that's the first thing people get wrong. They're like, mustard
- 11:20seed, mustard only grows about a foot talk. Well, no, actually,
- 11:24that's yet another reason why you need to rely on sacred tradition to explain
- 11:31the words of the Bible, because that's a very clear instance in which the
- 11:35same word has two very different meanings. Jesus spoke Aramaic, and the people
- 11:41of his time would know exactly the plant he was discussing, a seed that
- 11:46grows into a large tree, not the mustard you spread on your hot dog
- 11:52or the delicious mustard greens we Southerners love to eat with our corn bread and
- 11:56barbecue or fried chicken. And it is delicious. It's actually my favorite green.
- 12:01I love mustard, I love turnips, I love collars, but mustard
- 12:05just I love it. It's just, you know, I try to grow
- 12:09some every year. My grandparents, my great grandparents, grew it, and
- 12:13I am sure you know, my Pentecostal holiness great grandfather at some point looked
- 12:18at it out at his field of mustard greens and thought, that doesn't make
- 12:22a lot of sense. It's not a tree. Well, it was,
- 12:28in Jesus's time a completely different species, a completely different plant entirely. Point
- 12:35number one. Christ laid the foundation of the church when in the course of
- 12:39his teaching he gathered a number of disciples, and he chose twelve of these
- 12:43to preside over the rest, and one to head all. I believe it
- 12:46was seventy two disciples he sent out to heal the sick and expel demons.
- 12:52He gave them authority. He didn't give it to anybody else. Okay,
- 12:56he had at the time, you know, as before his teaching on the
- 12:58Eucharist, thousands of people following him and listening to his words and believing him
- 13:03to be the Messiah. He chose, hand picked seventy two people and gave
- 13:07them the authority his authority. He chose the apostles, and on Pentecost Sunday,
- 13:16which we'll talk character a second, they were given the Holy Spirit,
- 13:20along with the blessed Virgin Mary, who is to be a mother to the
- 13:22Church, as she was a mother to Christ, and they were given the
- 13:26full authority and power of God to speak, act, and teach in his
- 13:31stead. No one else on earth, and no one else on earth has
- 13:37ever or will ever have that authority unless ordained through apostolic succession. Which you
- 13:43bind on earth will be bound in Hiven, which you lose on earth will
- 13:46be loosed in Heaven. When you see, you know, some Protestant storefront
- 13:50church or something that says apostle John Smith or disciple Alex Jones, I don't
- 13:56know, Alex, he'd be a good one white, but they have no
- 14:01authority. Apostolic succession means that the priest is ordained by a bishop who was
- 14:07ordained by a bishop who was ordained by a bishop, going back two thousand
- 14:11years to the original Apostles. And as we discussed yesterday regarding the Anglican Church,
- 14:16when that apostolic succession is broken, no one has the authority to preach,
- 14:22teach, act, or much less form a church with the authority of
- 14:26Christ. The Church first began its life on Pentecost, when some three thousand
- 14:33people were baptized. Pentecost is the birthday of the Church. After the miracle
- 14:39at the Gate of the Temple, some two thousand more were baptized. We
- 14:41must always remember when people make anti Semitic statements, approximately half of all Jews
- 14:50converted to Christianity in the first one hundred years of the church. Our early
- 14:54church was almost entirely Jewish, all the apostles were, and then they started
- 15:01bringing some Greeks and Samaritans and such. But yes, we have a Jewish
- 15:07christ and we have a Jewish Church. That should never be questioned actually because
- 15:16well it's well documented in the Bible. We know exactly who these people were
- 15:22are living in heaven and to you know, we have as Christians, we
- 15:26have disagreements with our Jewish brothers and sisters over matters of religion and doctrine and
- 15:33faith and belief. And you know, we're not commanded to be Zionists by
- 15:41any sense of the word. But you know, there's still our family in
- 15:48God. And to hate a person because they're Jewish is actually to hate Jesus
- 15:56because he's Jewish, and you know that's that's not a good thing to do.
- 16:00So, you know, Catholics are required required not to be racist,
- 16:08not to be anti Semitic. You know it says in the Bible there's no
- 16:14longer Jew or Gentile. We're all Christians. Well yeah, I mean we
- 16:21don't have to agree on everything. We can try our best to get along
- 16:25with Muslims and Buddhists and everybody, because everybody's made in God's image. No
- 16:30one is born genetically contemptible. Would that be a good way to put it.
- 16:38Bigotry is absolutely not allowed for Catholics. And you know, the Communists
- 16:45love to go back and say, well, look, you know all these
- 16:48Germans and Nazis were Catholic. Yeah, well, they also renounced their Catholic
- 16:53faith when they became Nazis because that ideology was not compatible with Christianity. Neither
- 17:00is Communism. They excommunicated themselves when they became Nazis or Communists or any variety
- 17:10of socialists. Really point number three. Soon after the descent of the Holy
- 17:14Ghosts, the apostles began to preach the Gospel throughout the world in accordance with
- 17:18the commands of Christ Mark sixteen fifteen, and founded Christian communities in many places.
- 17:26Saint Paul, after his conversion thirty four AD, labored more abundantly than
- 17:30all the Apostles at First Corinthians fifteen ten. He traveled Asia Minor, the
- 17:36greater part of southern Europe, and many islands of the Mediterranean. After him,
- 17:40Saint Peter labored most. After escaping by a miracle from prison in Jerusalem,
- 17:44he founded his sea at Rome, where, in company with Saint Paul,
- 17:48he suffered martyrdom. That's right. Protestants will say, there's no evidence
- 17:52Peter was ever in Rome. Yeah, actually there is. We know where
- 17:56he was buried, and in the first century at church was built over it,
- 18:00and it's now his bones are under the altar of Saint Peter's Basilica.
- 18:04And we have both Christian history and Roman history that discusses his martyrdom in Rome
- 18:11under Nero, where he requested to be crucified upside down because he said he
- 18:17wasn't worthy to be crucified in the same manner as Christ, and preached to
- 18:21the Pagans as he was being tortured to death and converted many by his words.
- 18:26There is far more historical evidence for Saint Peter being in Rome than really
- 18:36ninety percent of the events in the Bible. You know, we have multiple
- 18:38sources on one one source on the other there's more evidence for Saint Peter being
- 18:45the Pope in Rome. We have early Christians writing of him and to him,
- 18:49we have the record of his martyrdom, we have the whole but absolutely
- 18:55well documented by multicultural traditions. There's more evidence than that. There is all,
- 19:00say, the sinking of the Lusitania being a just cause of what World
- 19:10War? World War One. I mean, we can actually look back at
- 19:15history and say, well, we can question many events in history, and
- 19:21because we only have you know, certain sources, what we know of the
- 19:23sinking of Lusatania was actually you know, came from one source. Our government
- 19:29seems looking back at history, they probably knew what was going to happen,
- 19:32and it was kind of maybe a setup because the president wanted us to get
- 19:36involved in World War One when we really had no business doing so. We
- 19:40can also wonder, you know, the Japanese mom Pearl Harbor. We saw
- 19:45our intelligence sources and other nations were telling us they were on their way like
- 19:48days in advance, and somehow they hit us unaware. That's questionable. Gosh,
- 19:55there's so many things that are questionable. The reasons for the Civil War,
- 20:00you know, I mean, we go through history and questions many things
- 20:03because they only come from one source. There are multiple sources and in actual
- 20:08historical archaeological evidence. I mean, you think the millions of Mormons in this
- 20:12world, in this nation today, believe based only on the testamenty of Joseph
- 20:18Smith, that there were these great cities built by Native Americans before the white
- 20:22man ever got here, right, and then after the Resurrection Jesus appeared and
- 20:26preached to the Indians. We can't find one single shred of archaeological evidence that
- 20:32would even say that was even slightly possible. There were no cities, I
- 20:37mean were there were no cities. Now you go down in New Mexico and
- 20:41like the Mayans. But he didn't claim that it was to the Mayans.
- 20:44He said here right here in North America, right, and we know the
- 20:48Mayans and the Aztecs and the Olmecs and the toltext well documented their religion.
- 20:52There was certainly no Jesus in it. I mean, the Aztecs were cannibals,
- 20:59as were many Native American tribes. Actually, we can find pits,
- 21:03piles of human bones with teeth marks. We can't find an ancient city.
- 21:10There are no buildings, there's no archeological evidence. But the Mormons believe it
- 21:12because Joseph Smith said it. They will tell you flat out that Saint Peter
- 21:18was never in Rome because it doesn't say it in the Bible, and Joseph
- 21:19Smith didn't say it. We actually have real historical evidence, as real as
- 21:26I mean, you know, just the same reason we believe in the crucifixion
- 21:30resurrections of Christ. There were multiple sources that wrote about it in the time,
- 21:37not just what's recorded in the Bible. The Romans wrote about the Jews
- 21:40wrote about it, I mean, the Greeks wrote about it. The historical
- 21:44events that took place, the you know, eclipse when he was crucified,
- 21:49the message of the Gospel spreading throughout the ancient world. We know this to
- 21:55be true because we have contemporary sources. It's like newspapers from the time.
- 22:00Look at it that way. Contemporary histories well anyway. But if you're arguing
- 22:07with an anti Catholic Protestant who won't read anything except what's written in the Bible
- 22:11or by a contemporary author, good luck. I mean, if someone's gonna
- 22:15be wilfully ignorant, you can say, well, here's a Roman historian who
- 22:18was absolutely opposed to Christianity, who documented all this. They'll say, I'm
- 22:22not reading it. I only believe what's in the sixty but sixty six books
- 22:26of the King James Bible. Meanwhile, never mind that, you know that's
- 22:30not the full Bible. Martin Luther stripped out several books he didn't like.
- 22:34But they won't even believe that. It's willful ignorance. It's a wall that
- 22:38they put up and it's the only way they can protect their folicious doctrine.
- 22:45It's absolutely provable, faults, provably false, but they will not discuss that
- 22:49because they can't accept that. It scares them to death to think Catholics may
- 22:56be right. It means their parents were wrong, and their grandparents were just
- 23:00to start with, and they're wrong, and you know they have no foundation.
- 23:04And especially if they call themselves a Protestant minister, explain to them they
- 23:08have no right or authority to call themselves a minister, much less to have
- 23:12a church that isn't Catholic. And then you're also endangering their income. And
- 23:19if they have been divorced once or twice, well what if you tell them
- 23:23here in each of the four Gospels Jesus expressly condemns divorce. Explain that to
- 23:29me. They'll turn themselves inside out in an effort to do so, but
- 23:34they won't accept the plain words of Jesus Christ. All right, So Saint
- 23:40Peter's and Paul suffered martyr at Rome. Saint John the Bloved Disciple lived at
- 23:44Ephesus with our Blessed Lady and governed over the church in Asia Minor. Again,
- 23:48huge amounts of historical evidence for that. We have actual letters going from
- 23:53Was it Ironaus? I think yeah, I think it was to say that
- 23:56Ironaeus in the first one hundred years of Christianity, actually to Saint John and
- 24:00to the Blessed Virgin Mary, correspondence going back and forth. Okay, I
- 24:06mean it's it's totally documented and evidenced. But they'll deny that too. His
- 24:14brother, Saint James the Greater, traveled as far as Spain and was beheaded
- 24:18in Jerusalem forty four a d. His body rests at Compostella. Saint James
- 24:22Celeste governed the church in Jerusalem and was cast down from a pinnacle of the
- 24:26temple in sixty three a d. Saint Andrew preached to the people living along
- 24:32the Lower Danube and died on a cross, and I think the boy can
- 24:34pronounced it is aka Achaia. Saint Thomas and Saint Bartholomew made their way to
- 24:41the Euphrates and Tigris and as far as India. That's a long journey.
- 24:48Saint Simon evangelized Egypt and North Africa. The Apostles established their communities after the
- 24:55following plan. Having converted and baptized a number of men in a place,
- 25:00they chose assistance to whom they imparted a greater or lesser portion of their own
- 25:03powers, And before leaving the place, they made a choice of a successor
- 25:07and gave him full powers. In other words, they ordained a bishop and
- 25:11priests. Those who received only a small portion of apostolic power were called deacons
- 25:15and priests. Those who had ampler faculties. These representatives of the apostles were
- 25:19called bishops. Christ gave the apostles the power to choose successors when he gave
- 25:25them the self same power which he had received from the Father John twenty twenty
- 25:29one. And it was his wish that they should choose successors, For he
- 25:33told the apostles that their mission should continue into the end of the world Matthew
- 25:37twenty eight twenty Till the end of the world, the Catholic Church will stand
- 25:42through Apostolic succession when the gates of Hell will not prevail against it, nor
- 25:48will the Martin Luthers and King Henry the Eighths, and John Knoxes and other
- 25:55call him pretenders to the throne. Among all the Christian community, that of
- 26:00Rome took highest rank because it was presided over by Saint Peter, the chief
- 26:04of the Apostles, and because of the head of that community. As successor
- 26:08of Saint Peter, the premiscy of Saint Peter was transferred Saint Ignatius, Bishop
- 26:14of Antioch in one O seven a D. In a letter to the Christians
- 26:18of Rome, begs him not to set him free and calls the Roman community
- 26:22the chief community of the holy band of all the faithful. Saint Ironaus,
- 26:26Bishop of leone two two a D. Says all the faithful over the whole
- 26:32world must conform to the Roman Church on account of its principality. Now that's
- 26:38Saint Ironais. Now let's consider this for a minute. Two two a D.
- 26:45That is closer to the time of Christ and the time the Apostles were
- 26:49alive then, Oh, just say that year nineteen hundred was to the founding
- 26:56of America, and we still look to the Constitution as our guide in the
- 27:02decoration of independence. They were fully aware of the teachings of the Apostles.
- 27:07They were living almost contemporary to him. I believe Saint Irenaeus's teacher, his
- 27:14priest actually was taught by Saint was he ordained by Saint Peter or Tate Paul
- 27:22and taught by him. I mean this is you know. And Saint Ignatius
- 27:27I believe lived to be a very long age. He actually knew them personally,
- 27:32So I mean, this is what the earliest church taught. That Rome
- 27:38was superior. When you know the pope speaks, he speaks with the mouth
- 27:45of God. And actually Martin Luther had to admit in one of his diaries
- 27:49that Christ came to him in a dream and said, Luther, why do
- 27:52you seek the keys to my kingdom? I left them with Peter, and
- 27:56there they shall remain. His tongue is my tongue and his mouth is my
- 28:02key case. That's from memory. It could have been his tongue as my
- 28:04key and his mouth as my key case. Even Martin Luther had to admit
- 28:08that Jesus Christ himself told him he did not have the authority of the pope.
- 28:15All Christian communities which have been formed in the course of time possessed the
- 28:18same faith and acknowledged the same means of grace and the same hint hints.
- 28:22They formed one large community, the Catholic Church. All Christians in the known
- 28:29universe at the time were Catholic Hints. They used the word universal Church point
- 28:37number four. When the great persecutions broke out, the Church spread more rapidly
- 28:41over the earth. During the first three centuries, there were ten persecutions,
- 28:45the severest being under Nero and Diocletian in two eighty four to three eight five
- 28:49AD later, the latter monster condemning some two million Christians. They were martyred
- 28:56in various ways. They were beheaded like Saint a crucified like Saint Peter's stone,
- 29:02like Saint Stephen, thrown to the lions like Saint Ignatius of Antioch,
- 29:06roasted on the gridirons like Saint Lawrence, drowned like Saint Florian, flayed like
- 29:11Saint Bartholomew, casts over cliffs, were from high places like Saint James,
- 29:15burned at the scaffold, like Saint Polycarp, buried alive, like Saint Chrysanthus,
- 29:21et cetera. The very means adopted to exterminate the Christian religion helped to
- 29:26propagate it. The speeches of Christians before their judges often converted the hearers.
- 29:30The joy was which they faced death. Their superhuman patience and their love for
- 29:34their enemies were powerful influences on the Heathen. Added to this were the miracles
- 29:41which often happened during their martyrdoms, for instance, in the case of Saint
- 29:45Polycarp and Saint John at the Lattering Gate. In the words of Saint Rupert,
- 29:49the martyrs are like the seed which is buried in the earth and sprouts
- 29:53and brings forth much fruit, or Saint Leo the Great. If the storm
- 29:57scatters the seed, this benefit result. Then instead of some fifty other trees,
- 30:03this benefit results that instead of one, some fifty other trees grow up.
- 30:07The blood of the martyrs, says Tratrullian, is the seed of the
- 30:11Christians. The life of the Christians was then modeled. The life of the
- 30:17Christians was then a model, and they abounded in Saints at the risk of
- 30:21their life, they prayed to God in the catacombs. Two years of probation
- 30:25were demanded of the catechumans before entering reception. It's very important. It used
- 30:30to be a lot harder to become Catholic. You didn't just have to go
- 30:33to Rcia. You had two years of probation before you could become Catholic.
- 30:42When the Roman emperor Constantine the Great had permitted his subjects to become Christians and
- 30:47later made Christian the Christian religion the state religion three twenty four AD, the
- 30:52church indeed flourished externally, but further and religious discipline soon began to suffer.
- 30:59Constantine was led to this step by the appearance of a luminous cross in the
- 31:02heavens in three twelve AD, and still more by his Holy mother Saint Helena.
- 31:07The following were some of his ordinances. Sundays and feast days were to
- 31:11be observed solemnly. The temples of the heathens were being handed over to the
- 31:15bishops. The gladiatorial combats and the crucifixion of criminals were forbidden, and many
- 31:21churches were built by the miraculous drat of fishes relaid in the fifth chapter of
- 31:25Saint Luke, and by the two boats almost sunk with the weight of fish,
- 31:30was prefigured the future of the Church, which should suffer schism with the
- 31:33increase of its members, while Christians should sink down to earthly things. The
- 31:38heresy of Arius in three point eighteen AD began its deadly work and the time
- 31:44of Constantine and had a great following. A lot of the early Christian writing
- 31:48was against the Arian heresy, and it's very interesting to read because the Arian
- 31:52heresy is very much alive and well in Protestantism today, and if they would
- 31:59read the early Church, they would realize it's not right. At this time
- 32:04also seized the test of the catacumbin so that it was easier to become a
- 32:07member of the Catholic Church. Saint Augustine had reason to say, if the
- 32:09Church is haraspect external foes, there are many in her Bosom who by their
- 32:14unruly life, make sad the hearts of the faithful. In the Middle Ages,
- 32:20nearly all Heathen nations began to enter the Church. In Austria about four
- 32:23point fifty eight AD, the monks Severn Severeness preached the Gospel for thirty years
- 32:31along the banks of the Danube, Saint Gregory the Great and six hundred AD
- 32:35Saint Augustine at the head of a number of missionaries to convert England. Eighty
- 32:42years later the country was Christian and had twenty six sees. It's amazing how
- 32:45quickly I mean. England was once one of the greatest Catholic nations on earth.
- 32:51Germany owes most to Saint Boniface, who preached the Gospel there for about
- 32:55forty years. Around seven fifty five AD, the Greek monks Saint Cyril and
- 33:00Methodius worked among the Slavs, mainly of Bohemian Moravia, with great success.
- 33:06The Hungarians were converted by their Holy King Stephen in ten thirty eight AD.
- 33:09The Apostolic king, he was called Christianity was gradually introduced into Iceland, Denmark,
- 33:15Sweden, Norway, Russia and Poland after one thousand a d. The
- 33:22Church was hard pressed by Islam during the Middle Ages. Islamism or mohammedimusim it
- 33:28was very hard for me to say as it was called. Mohammedanism was founded
- 33:31by Mohammed, a native of Mecca, who gave himself out to be a
- 33:36prophet of the one true God and promised sensual joy after death, allowed plurality
- 33:40of wives, imposed pilgrige to Mecca, taught fatalism, and after propagating his
- 33:46doctrine by fire and sword, was poisoned in six point thirty two by a
- 33:50jewis. That's one of the main reasons why Muslims hate Jews so much.
- 33:53By the way, she was a great hero who killed a very, very
- 33:58evil man. The Quran is a sacred book to the Mohammedans. Mohammedans they
- 34:05keep Friday with great solemnity and pray five times a day towards Mecca. Mohammed's
- 34:09successors were the Califs, who undertook wars of conquest on a large scale everywhere,
- 34:15rooting out the Christian religion. They overran great parts of Asia, North
- 34:19Africa, Spain, and the islands of the Mediterraneans. Charles Martel and a
- 34:22series of victories between seven thirty two and seven thirty eight ad arrested or prevented
- 34:29their advance into France, and ever since their failure in sixteen thirty eight before
- 34:32Vienna, their progress in the West was arrested. In addition, the Church
- 34:37lost many adherents in the Middle Ages by the Greek Schism, and this kind
- 34:42of goes back to what we were talking about earlier. The cause of the
- 34:45schism were as follows. The emperors of the East kept trying to make the
- 34:49patriarchs of Constantinople independent of Rome, while these were often for their heresies put
- 34:53under ban by the councils. In time, it came about that the ambitious
- 34:59Photius I guess this is way you pronounced his name, backed up by an
- 35:01emperor held council of the Eastern bishops, and broke away from Rome in eight
- 35:06sixty seven AD. The succeeding emperor re established the old religion with Rome.
- 35:12Two hundred years later, however, the patriarch Michael cerul Laureus renewed the contests
- 35:19it around ten fifty four a d. And the schism affected by him lasts
- 35:22until present day. They called himself Orthodox Greeks, while we call them schismatic
- 35:29Greeks, in opposition to the United Greeks U. N I a t e
- 35:35S, who preserved their allegiance to Rome. In later times, many nations
- 35:42were newly discovered and countries were converted. The Spaniards and Portuguese led the Van
- 35:47of missionary of the missionary enterprise. One of the most famous of these missionaries
- 35:52is Saint Francis Xavior, the Apostle to the Indies, who used to call
- 35:55the little children together with a bell as he made his way through the cities
- 36:00of India, through the islands of Molucca and Japan to teach them the truth
- 36:05with religion. In fifteen fifty two AD, he had the gift of tongues
- 36:07and baptized some two million heathens. After his death, great works were done
- 36:13in China by the Jesuits, especially Ricki and Shawl. Another great missionary is
- 36:19Saint Peter Klaver sixteen fifty four, whose work was mostly among the Negroes of
- 36:23South America. Yes, in the eighteen Nights they said, negro don't take
- 36:27offense to it. Some will, I know Cardinal la Virjieri l'avergerie in our
- 36:35own time founding a congregation for the conversion of natives. The College of Propaganda
- 36:39was found at Rome in sixteen sixty two for the training of young men from
- 36:45all nations for a missionary career. Yeah, propaganda means convincing people essentially.
- 36:52It's not always in a negative connotation. At present, some fifteen thousand priests,
- 37:00five thousand lay brothers, and fifty thousand nuns are at work and foreign
- 37:04missions. Well eighteen nineties. Can we still say that today, that we
- 37:08have that many faithful Catholic religious lay brothers, nuns, priests working to convert
- 37:16people to Catholicism. I don't know the actual number now, but I don't
- 37:22think we have the same zeal that Father spirago. You know, we've lost
- 37:30confidence. Multiculturalism, pluralism, socialism, liberalism has taken away that confidence that
- 37:37someone just walks up to someone says, you know, let me tell you
- 37:39about why you should become a Christian and why other religions fall short. It's
- 37:45confrontational. It can also be the best thing that can ever happen to a
- 37:51person. I mean, like I said, you may think the Spanish,
- 37:57especially at Portuguese, to some extent, they didn't treat Native Americans and South
- 38:00Americans especially very well. And that's true. In many cases, the governments
- 38:05did not. The priests were kind and open hospitals and schools, and many
- 38:12people went from I mean the Native tribes. Your history book won't tell you
- 38:16this in high school, but real history will. We're constantly at war practice
- 38:22slavery, were often very cruel to each other and many times would eat They
- 38:27capture other rival tribes and eat them. You know, when Columbus first landed,
- 38:31the first tribe he encountered wanted to form a union with him so that
- 38:37he would take his soldiers and capture their rival tribe. And they wanted to
- 38:39sell them into slavery to Europe. Well they didn't know what Europe was,
- 38:43but they want them out of there, and they were wanted to sell them
- 38:45as slaves. They converted to Christianity and have been pretty peaceful and properess ever
- 38:53since. I mean, that's not what you're going to be taught in colleges
- 38:58these days, but it's the truth. There's been no more, no greater
- 39:02force for peace and human rights and prosperity the world has ever seen. In
- 39:07the Catholic Church. I don't believe anyone should be forced to convert, obviously
- 39:14not, and the church says they shouldn't. You know, at one time,
- 39:17if Spain colonized an area and the national religion of Spain was Catholicism,
- 39:22anyone who practiced another religion was considered a trader. The same way England declared
- 39:30all Catholics to be traders to the crown and slaughtered hundreds of thousands of English
- 39:37and Irish Catholics and Scots to some extent, and some Welsh. And you
- 39:43know, but we hold up England as this great example and condemn the Spanish
- 39:47and the Portuguese and all that. Well, actually that's just the way nations
- 39:52work back then. It wasn't the way the Church worked. You know.
- 39:55The Church was there advocating for the people and the soul were there, you
- 40:00know, saying you accept our rule, or you die, or you get
- 40:06sold as a slave. Well, anyway, let's see, we just talked
- 40:12about how many people in eighteen nineties were missionaries. The missionaries belonged to the
- 40:15most part the Order of Jesuits, which they really need to get back to
- 40:20what they were founded for. They've become rather corrupted, we shall say.
- 40:24In recent decades. The Franciscans, the Capuchins, the Benedictines and the Lazarus,
- 40:30especially the Benedictines, are so responsible for spreading Christianity throughout Europe just by
- 40:37founding free hospitals and schools and orphanages. I mean, Christianity spread through charitable
- 40:45acts before it became sort of nationalized by certain nations, which you know,
- 41:00as I always say, you know, America needs God doesn't need America.
- 41:05Well, Spain needed God. God didn't need Spain, and the same it's
- 41:08true of France and England and any other nation. Well. Anyway, the
- 41:14organizations for the support of the missions of the propagation of Faith and the Holy
- 41:17Childhood is a sacred obligation to help in such work, and the efforts of
- 41:22non Catholics in this direction may well put us to shame. True, there
- 41:27are many good Protestant charities and missionary organizations. Unfortunately now most of them are
- 41:32getting paid by the government to help facilitate human trafficking and drug trafficking across the
- 41:37border, and are helping promote slavery as opposed to work against it. And
- 41:42that's true of both Catholic charities, Lutheran Family Services. Oh so many the
- 41:47Methodists, the Seven day Adventists, that there's a Jewish organization, these NGOs,
- 41:52these they really need to be abolished. In later times, the church
- 41:59has lost many members by the Lutheran Anglican heresies. Martin Luther and Augustinian Monk
- 42:02of Erfurt and later teacher in the high school in Wittenberg, took offense because
- 42:08he thought that he was not sufficiently held in esteem. At Rome, when
- 42:14Pope Leo the tenth, anxious to help complete the building of Saint Peter's,
- 42:16gave indulgences to those who should subscribe to the work and set out preachers to
- 42:21promulgate these indulgences, Luther came forward with his ninety five propositions on indulgences and
- 42:27nailed them to the doors of the church at Wittenberg. These propositions at first
- 42:30condemned only the abuses of indulgences by the church, but later went on to
- 42:35combat the teaching of the church on the subject, refusing to withdraw them at
- 42:39the command of the Pope. He was excommunicating fifteen twenty and also outlawed by
- 42:44the Emperor for not answering the summons requiring him to appear before the Council at
- 42:47Worms, he saw protection from the Elector at Saxony. His heresy soon spread
- 42:53all over Germany and led many led to many religious wars. The name Protestantism
- 42:59was soon by the Lutherans' inspires in fifteen twenty nine on account of their protests
- 43:04against Catholic doctrines. The Peace of Augsburg secured the Protestants the same rights as
- 43:09Catholics. In fifteen fifty five. The Council of Trent set forth the points
- 43:15in dispute between Catholics and Protestants in fifteen forty five to sixty three. Luther
- 43:20died in fifteen forty six. His chief errors are contained in the following proposition.
- 43:24One there is no supreme teaching power of the Church. Two, the
- 43:28temporal sovereign has supreme powers and matters ecclesiastical. Three there are no priests,
- 43:37seriously. Four. All that is to believe is in the scripture seriously.
- 43:43Five. Each may interpret the Holy Scriptures as he likes, as he likes,
- 43:46not as you know. Jesus said, not as the Church his apostles
- 43:51taught, but as he likes. Six. Faith alone says and good works
- 43:54are superfluous. He actually changed the words of Jesus in the Bible to imply
- 43:59that the last followers from the fact that man has lost his free will by
- 44:05original sin, we believe man has free will. There are no saints,
- 44:09he said. There are no saints. There's no Christian sacrifice, no sacrament
- 44:14of confession and no purgatory. The Jesuits, founded by Saint Ignatius at Loyola,
- 44:20won back many to the fold of the Church. Zwingli and Calvin in
- 44:23Switzerland, Henry the eighth and England about the same time helped in Luther's deadly
- 44:28work. The errors of the Anglican Church were drawn up later in the form
- 44:31of thirty nine articles, which are quite Lutheran in tone. At present this
- 44:37was eighteen ninety. The Catholic Church numbers about two hundred and sixty million.
- 44:42It's actually quite larger now. These are under the direction of about twelve hundred
- 44:45bishops, counting about fifteen patriarchs, two hundred archbishops, twenty prelates prelates with
- 44:52the diocese. There's some three hundred and fifty thousand Catholic priests in the whole
- 44:55world. I think we have fewer priests now actually, but dear a lot,
- 45:00a lot more Catholics in Africa than they used to be, and of
- 45:02course in Mexico is South America. You know, this is eighteen nineties.
- 45:07You know when he wrote this, the inhabitants of Italy, Spain, France,
- 45:12Austria, Belgium and Ireland are nearly all Catholic. I wish that were
- 45:15still true. The many may call himselves Catholic, they're just nonpracticing anything lapsed,
- 45:21as they might say. In Switzerland, about half are Catholic. In
- 45:23Germany over a third of the population. Russia eleven million. That was before
- 45:28the revolution. Russia was a very Catholic nation before the Bolsheviks. In Europe,
- 45:35about three coreps the entire population of Catholic. In Europe, about three
- 45:38coreps are the population of Catholic. And in America there's some eighty million Catholics.
- 45:43We have more Catholics now, so America is one that has grown in
- 45:46Catholics, whereas obviously Russia and China have decreased and Europe has fallen into the
- 45:58complete decay. You know, let's see what he actually said. In the
- 46:04Americas, there's some eighty million Catholics, of whom ten million are America in
- 46:07the United States, so we actually do have more now. That's a good
- 46:09thing. But at that point it was one seventh of the population, with
- 46:14Mexico, South and Central America and Brazil being almost entirely Catholic. And unfortunately
- 46:20that is not true. The Protestants have especially the Pentecostals have really made huge
- 46:24inroads into Brazil. In Asia, there are ten million Catholics in Africa,
- 46:30three million. Well now they're a lot more in Africa, so that's good.
- 46:32In Australia million the Protestants, comprising the various sects of Lutherans, Calvinist
- 46:38Anglicans, et cetera, number one hundred and fifty million at the time.
- 46:43You know, this time in eighteen niney there are a whole lot more Catholics
- 46:45than there were Protestants. And he goes on and says where they were kind
- 46:47of, you know, distributed, and that the year there were at that
- 46:52time one hundred million Greek Orthodox you know, this isdemic for US. Now
- 47:00we're quite past these numbers. But in eighteen ninety there were one hundred and
- 47:05seventy million Muslims and eight million Jews, and of course this is before World
- 47:12War Two, so pretty horrible. Anyway. Finally, there are still eight
- 47:19hundred million Heathens dwelling for the most part in Africa, India, China,
- 47:22and Japan. Unfortunately, now it's far more than eight hundred million Heathens,
- 47:28most of which are of no religion whatsoever. Secularist liberals or just plain people
- 47:35who have never been introduced or taken interest in Christianity whatsoever, of either the
- 47:39Catholic or the Protestant vein. And that's our job. That's why I do
- 47:45this show. It's not just say look how great we are as Catholics,
- 47:50so we can understand why we're Catholic and as a convert's s important for me
- 47:54to say why Catholicism is different to Protestantism. And my hope is that after
- 47:59listening to my program and reading my articles and my books and everything, you
- 48:02can talk to your Protestant or non religious friends and say, this is what
- 48:07we actually believe, you know, if we get all the lies you've been
- 48:09told, and this is why we believe it. And I like to give
- 48:13you biblical passages so you can actually point out to your prostant friends you know,
- 48:16Catholicism is actually very biblical. Protestantism is not. But make those strong
- 48:23religious and historical arguments to convince people. But you know, the best way
- 48:30to convince someone is to be a person they would like to be like,
- 48:36you know, to show them that joy, that faith, that foundation in
- 48:40times of trouble, you know, to get married and raise a strong family,
- 48:45and not to get divorced, you know, to raise good kids that
- 48:49people would want to look up to. Be honest, be fair dealing,
- 48:52don't cheat people, don't steal, don't have cheat on your partner and commit
- 48:57adultery. And you know, I mean, actually lived a life someone else
- 49:00might want to emulate. It's they say, it's not an actual quote.
- 49:06You know, preach to the Gospel. Always only use words when you have
- 49:09to. I think that's attributed to Augustine. It was a false quote,
- 49:14and I may be wrong, but it is true. But it's also very
- 49:17important to use words. And to use words, you have to have the
- 49:22logical and historical foundation. You have to actually know what you're talking about.
- 49:27So that's what I'm hopefully helping you with. That's what I'm hopefully doing in
- 49:30my own life. And you know, it's not always easy. Arguments with
- 49:37anti Catholics can be really uncomfortable, whether they're atheists or anti Catholic Protestants,
- 49:44and usually the Protestants are a lot worse. You at least get some respect
- 49:47from someone who doesn't just hate you because you're a Catholic. But that's the
- 49:52goal. And in the words of Saint Padre Pio, Pray, hope and
- 49:58don't worry, and y'all I will out. Next step