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#317: Gremlins (1984) · What's Your (Least) Favorite Scary Movie?

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  Hello, what's your least favorite scary movie?
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  First of all, keep him out of the light.
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  He hates bright light, especially sunlight.
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  It'll kill him. Second, don't give him any
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  water, not even to drink. But the most important rule, the
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  rule you can never forget. No matter how much he cries, no
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  matter how much he begs, never feed him after midnight.
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  Merry Christmas and welcome to What's Your Least Favorite Scary
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  Movie? The podcast where we talk about
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  the good, the bad, the ugly and the absurd and all of our
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  favorite scary movies. Because we believe every horror
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  movie rightfully has its fan base.
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  Even if we don't always get it. My name is Travis.
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  My name is Jesse and hey, it's Christmas time.
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  But that also means it's winter time, which means if you are a
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  long time listener of the show, you know that I am liable to get
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  sick. And I've been sick and barely
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  audible for the past week or so. So we are recording this live on
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  Christmas Eve because this is the first day since about,
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  honestly, like last Tuesday or Wednesday where I can actually
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  talk enough that we'll be able to get through an episode.
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  This is going to be a live episode.
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  We won't have time to edit it to get it out for Christmas
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  tomorrow. So have fun, enjoy our flub UPS.
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  We'll have a good time together. Yeah, it's all in the good
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  holiday spirit. Yeah, you're good for one of
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  these. Every single winner.
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  Like you always lose your voice at least one time.
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  At least once, sometimes twice if I'm villain real fancy.
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  OK, cool. Well, yeah, we're going to be
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  talking about Gremlins, a Christmas horror movie again.
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  But hey, you know what? I got a present for everybody.
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  Guess what we have this week? Did we do a poll?
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  I did a poll. You did a poll.
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  That's right. All right, So last week we
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  talked about Final Destination too, and I asked everybody, your
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  time's up. How are you going out?
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  So there are four options. Log truck me, glass crush me,
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  elevator decapitate me or hospital explode me.
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  Yeah. 27% say lock truck me, 0% says glass crush me, 18% says
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  elevator decapitate me, and 55% say hospital explode me.
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  All right, so me, I'm going with hospital explode me, because
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  that's probably the closest I'll ever get to being Michael Myers.
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  I I knew you were going to go there.
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  I mean, of course. I mean, I'm looking at him right
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  here. He's wearing a Christmas hat
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  even. He's like on fire.
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  I think I will also go with hospital explode me just because
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  it generally seems like the quickest, yeah.
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  I think the decapitation. Oh no, no, hers.
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  Is pretty drunk now. I'm already afraid of elevators.
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  Yeah, the glass crushing was pretty quack, quack pretty
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  quick. Yeah, but also, I also have a
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  lot of fear of that after the end of Saw 5 there, Luke from
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  Gilmore Girls. Yeah, man.
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  There's a lot of being crushed is not fun.
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  It does not. Look like.
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  Hey, hey, the plus side of hospital exploding.
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  You're already at the hospital. Bada Bing, bada boom.
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  You're going to, you're going to die, but you have a chance.
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  OK, that was a weird energy to take it with, but it's fine.
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  The only other announcement that I have is that we are going to
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  try and record our bonus episode for our Budgeteer bubbies over
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  on the Patreon this weekend. I'm not going to say what we're
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  doing just yet because we have an idea in mind, but we'll be
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  able to find out really quickly if it works or not.
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  So we might have to pivot last second.
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  So if you're a Budgeteer bubby, or if you want to buy that
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  episode on its own, we have that option available whenever that
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  comes up. Just keep an eye on it over the
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  weekend up through the 31st. You can find the link to our
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  Patreon at the very bottom of our show notes.
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  Yeah, exactly. OK, so are we ready to talk
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  about gremlins? Yeah.
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  Bam, bam, bam, bam, bam. All right, girl, I've had that
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  stuck in my head since Friday night.
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  Yeah, we were talking about this.
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  I I confused about the Goosebumps theme, Jesse says.
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  It's not. Yeah, goosebumps, says Dun Dun,
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  Dun Dun. But.
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  That sounded exactly like what you just did, just like a
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  different, like a difference in one beat.
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  It's different. Plus the goosebumps has like the
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  dog barking. OK, that's the only difference
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  in my ears. It was a Gremlins that released
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  June 8th, 1984. Weird timing for a movie like
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  that. Yeah, and I actually don't have
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  any information on why it came out on June 8th.
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  I got distracted by other things.
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  That is weird. I guess they were.
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  They were probably bought banking on being like a summer
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  blockbuster. Yeah, I don't.
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  I don't fully know. We watched it.
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  We have a DVD of it. I got it for Travis a few
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  Christmas ago because he'd never seen it.
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  So I was like stocking stuff, but you can stream it right now
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  on HBO Max, Hulu, Disney Plus follower, YouTube or any of
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  those apps that have like the add-ons for HBO.
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  You can also rent it through Google TV, Apple TV or Vin Dinko
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  at home. Written by Chris Columbus,
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  directed by Joe Dante, music by Jerry Goldsmith, special effects
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  makeup by Stephen Norrington and the creature design was done by
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  Chris Wallace. Starring Zach Galligan as Billy,
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  Phoebe Cates as Kate, Hoyt Axton as Randall Peltzer, France Lee
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  McCain as Lynn Peltzer, Mushroom as Barney, Howie Mandel as
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  Gizmo. What Frank Welker, A stripe and
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  other mug wise and Gremlins and I There are so many people that
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  did Mogwai and Gremlin voices in this that I couldn't write them
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  all down. I haven't screenshot but.
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  Howie Mandel did the Voice of Gizmo.
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  What the fuck? Fred Newman, Mark Dodson,
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  Michael Winslow, Peter Colon. Not that.
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  Peter Colon, Bob Bergen. Michael Sheehan, Bob Holt and
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  Jim Cummings. Joe Dante.
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  Even so, we had a lot of Gremlin and Mogwai voices to go around.
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  I love their little voices too. Yeah.
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  And just I, I'll go ahead and give this little fun fact.
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  Now most of the Gremlin lines were just actor driven, like
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  they were just allowed to say and react.
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  Whenever they wanted to. Yeah.
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  So I like to imagine all of them gathering around in the
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  recording to you and say, so we agree, we're going to say Gizmo
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  Kaka, right, like we're going to.
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  That's going to be our chant. Every time I heard that I keep
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  thinking of that future ROM episode with the tiny Omicron
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  Percy on where he's like Kaka she's like we're going to have
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  to bleep that. OK, oh, time for our favorite.
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  See, this is the perils of reporting live.
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  I'm cracking under pressure. All right.
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  Time for our favorite game on the show.
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  Budget or bug dead? I'm going to say budget because
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  it's got the backing of Steven Spielberg.
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  You are correct, $11 million budget and that's the 1984
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  money. It made 12.5 million on its
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  opening box office weekend. A Worldwide Girls of
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  165,000,000. IMDb scores 7.3 out of 10.
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  That's fitting. Yes.
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  Yeah, that's great. Because it's this classic for a
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  reason. Yeah.
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  Yeah, it is. I picked a theme from 1984 and
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  it seemed like there was something kind of common going
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  on, which is small but deadly. OK, yeah.
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  Oh, I see. The first movie is actually one
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  we talked about on the show, and funny enough, all of these have
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  like, remakes, which wasn't intentional.
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  Yeah, it wasn't intentional, but it just kind of had a remake.
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  Slash requels. OK, so the first one is Children
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  of the Corn. OK, yeah, little, little Isaac.
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  Yep, that released March 9th, 1984 had a budget of 800,000, a
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  worldwide gross of 14.5 million, and a 5.6 out of 10 on IMDb.
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  We've talked about that on the show.
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  That was one of our very early episodes, so if you want to
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  flash to the past, there you go. Yes, it is there. 2nd movie
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  we've also talked about on the show a little bit more recently
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  though, Toxic Avenger. Oh cool.
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  'Cause Melvin. Little time, Melvin, He was a
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  little tiny boy and he got toxiced into being on the Toxic
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  Avenger. That actually premiered at the
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  Cannes Film Festival May 15th, 1984.
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  Had a bunch of yeah, right. Because like, it showed up on my
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  1984 films and then when I clicked it as to 1985 and I was
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  like, OK, well, clearly it had a premiere somewhere.
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  And then I got to that and I was like Cannes.
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  OK. You know what?
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  Yeah. It's cinema.
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  Get it? Get it, Lloyd?
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  It had a budget of 475,000, a worldwide gross of unknown, and
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  an IMDb score of 6 point ten. 6.2 out of 10.
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  OK, sorry, I'm trying not to do that as much as I can avoid it.
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  You're fine. And the third movie?
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  Not when we've seen that I'm familiar with a small child
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  being the problem in it. Firestarter.
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  Oh yeah, yeah, I'm surprised you're not familiar, isn't it
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  Stephen King? I you say this like I've read
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  every single Stephen King book. The man.
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  Has not many. Books.
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  Yeah, he has so many books, Travis.
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  Yeah, I know. It's just always like the big
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  ones. It's an unreasonable amount of
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  books. But I expect you to read the big
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  ones. Firestarter released May 11th,
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  1984. Budget of 12 million worldwide
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  Gross of 17,000,000. IMDb score 6.1 out of 10.
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  OK, I have a few tag lines. I didn't write down the stupid
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  ones. The ones that were like Steven
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  Spielberg presents. That's fair.
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  And there's also like one from a re release in 1985.
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  I didn't write that one down. So I've got the main ones,
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  though. The one that's on the poster is
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  cute, clever, mischievous, intelligent, dangerous.
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  And then there's an alternate version with all of that and
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  then crossed out as we're here. OK, I like that one.
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  Though you can't get burned seeing gremlins.
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  You can't get burned seeing gremlins.
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  I wonder, I don't know if it was a reference to another movie
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  that was out at the time. I maybe it was a reference to
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  Firestarter since it was like a month after that one came out
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  it. Could have.
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  Been what you see isn't always what you get.
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  I like that. That's good.
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  The gremlins are coming. They didn't obey the rules.
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  He tried, he just fell into accidentally.
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  It's understandable. Don't get him wet, keep him out
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  of light, and never feed him after midnight.
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  No. So those are our tag lines.
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  OK. Those are pretty good.
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  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Not bad.
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  OK, I've got a few fun facts. One thing I actually, I ended up
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  screenshotting a few things because there was just a lot to
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  work with. OK, the notion of gremlins first
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  conceived in the 1920s. It was talking, it was a joke
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  about aircraft failures, saying that there were little monsters,
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  little gremlins that were causing them.
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  That's what Dick Miller was talking about.
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  Yeah, OK. So that was kind of an ongoing
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  thing. And then it was in a book by
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  Roald Dahl called The Gremlins that came out in 1943.
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  Walt Disney almost ended up making a movie about it.
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  Bugs Bunny did have a Gremlins themed cartoon.
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  It just Joe Dante had read the book The Gremlins and he said it
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  it did have some influence on him in the film.
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  So I thought that was pretty interesting.
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  Like it's just taking kind of an urban legend kind of thing as a
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  concept people were familiar with and turning it into a full
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  movie. That's.
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  One of those ones that I feel like it's also just like that
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  era. Like I don't think like that.
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  I would have never like gathered any of that stuff.
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  Yeah, today, watching. It yes, definitely very of the
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  time very aware of what it's doing similar to like a horror
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  comedy thing, which was another thing that they mentioned they
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  had this horror comedy thing. Chris Columbus actually wrote
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  this script. It's just a spec script, you
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  know, just kind of a demonstration of his work to try
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  and get in at other studios. Steven Spielberg read the script
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  and he really liked it and he actually wanted to turn it into
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  a project. He picked Joe Dante who was kind
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  of having a role in his career. You know he'd had howling.
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  Really. You know Ron.
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  Also, I believe I. Don't remember that didn't come
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  up in my research. I think he did.
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  It came up on my research that he did the howling OK.
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  Which we did also. Cover And so he had a little bit
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  of experience with some of that dark comedy there, but he hadn't
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  been doing a ton of stuff since then.
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  He was working on The Twilight Zone, the movie, and then Steven
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  Spielberg wanted him because he knew he could handle the horror
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  comedy aspects of it. However, that took a few
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  rewrites and reshoots because the first draft of the script
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  was a lot darker. It included Billy's mom being
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  decapitated and Barney being eaten.
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  No. Not Barney as well as the
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  Gremlins attacking a McDonald's and eating customers instead of
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  burgers. I'm OK with that.
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  I'm OK with that one. OK, as long as there's not
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  anybody we've grown attached to. Yeah, exactly.
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  I mean, the dog, you can't eat a dog.
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  Yeah, and the mom, you can decapitate her.
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  Sure. I don't care.
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  Like, you know, I don't mind. I think it would be interesting
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  to see a darker version of a Gremlins movie.
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  Yeah, that's one of those that if this, I feel like if it was
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  remade today like they would the.
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  Broody adaptation? No, that would be like the 2000s
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  take. Which I'm really shocked they
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  didn't do that actually. Man, all of that rock music that
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  you like to make fun of me for liking.
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  Yeah. So you know the scene where Kate
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  talks about her dad falling down the chimney?
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  So, you know the gremlins? It's a whole urban legend type
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  thing. This was also another common
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  urban legend. Was somebody breaking their neck
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  coming down a chimney to play Santa.
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  Joe Dante was really the only one who liked that.
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  The studio wanted it to be pulled because they thought it
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  was dark and not really fitting in the tone.
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  Steven Spielberg didn't really like it either, but he said he
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  really saw this as Joe Dante's project, and from Dante's
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  perspective, it kind of encapsulates the spirit of the
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  movie. OK, that being that Christmas
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  kind of sucks sometimes. Is that the things going wrong?
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  Sometimes the urban legends are actually being true.
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  Oh, OK. Yeah, I can see that.
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  Finally, the puppets caused some issues.
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  So gremlins might be the cause of chaos in the movie.
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  They're also the cause of chaos on set, apparently.
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  Especially the Gizmo puppet, because it was so small and
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  adorable, it was really hard to maneuver and make it do the
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  things that it wanted to do, and it caused a lot of frustration
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  on the set. And Chris Wallace wanted to
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  actually make the Mogwai larger to make it easier for the
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  puppeteers and everything. And Joe Dante was like, no, it
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  has to be tiny because it's cuter.
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  Yeah, for sure. Well, that scene where they're
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  throwing the darts at him, that came from a list that the that
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  the crew had put together called horrible things to do to Gizmo
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  just 'cause they're so frustrated.
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  So that was them taking their frustrations out on Gizmo.
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  It's not his fault he's so tiny. I know.
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  That's so horrible. I can't believe that.
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  Damn. Yeah.
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  So that's those are my fun facts.
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  That's fun. I like those.
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  Those are good, man. I guess that means that it's
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  time for us to talk about our good, bad, ugly and absurd.
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  OK, well, I'll kick it off. OK, so right off the bat,
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  Speaking of the Grim or the the Mogwai little little gizmo, it's
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  just so adorable. Oh my God, he really is.
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  These are the most charming horror figures I think I could
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  ever think of. Like, it's so crazy to think
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  that this is a horror movie and having something so cute like
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  that in there. I'm going to say because we
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  joked around about Zoe being a gremlin last week.
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  Yeah, I feel like this movie also primed us a little bit.
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  So pig behind the curtain. If you haven't seen this on our
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  Instagram yet, we got talked into taking in another kitten.
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  Yes, we have a little baby here now.
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  She is like half the size of Zoe, all of the spunk, all of
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  the same fur markings. And I think us being Prime,
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  seeing Gizmo and being like, oh, but he's so tiny and adorable.
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  It's not his fault. He's also kind of causing chaos.
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  That definitely seems to have primed us to make us ready for
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  the kitchen energy in our house once again.
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  She's been like anytime we've been walking into a room and I
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  turn on the light, she'll go. Yeah, and you'll probably end
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  up, you'll probably end up picking up some of her meows
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  throughout this because she is very much at the hating closed
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  doors state of Kittendom. Yeah, yeah.
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  So very much like her very adorable things here.
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  Her name is Cordelia, by the way.
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  Yeah, Cordelia. Yeah.
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  We'll figure out a spot for her on the show at some point.
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  Yeah, yeah, sure. She'll have to.
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  She'll have to earn it. Yeah, yeah, we'll figure out her
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  thing eventually. OK, so yeah, cute, cute people.
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  I I do enjoy the the comedy in this.
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  Like, I like when like when we get them all having fun as
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  gremlins, like terrorizing the town.
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  Yeah, because like, stuff like that is fun.
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  Cool. It's a security threat.
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  Sorry guys. I have been derailed like 5
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  times on this thing. I I cannot collect my thoughts
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  right now. Unfortunately, it's so.
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  Not quite cute. Mock YQ Yeah, I'm trying to also
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  go take that train to further good things to say.
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  OK. I am surprised at how dark it
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  does get because this movie like you watch a lot of it and you
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  are not expecting anything bad to.
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  Happen ever. Didn't think Mr. Hanson was
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  actually dead? Yeah.
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  That's what I was about to say. Like we're then we get like the
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  professor actually get killed. We see people get stabbed, we
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  see the mom take out like 4 gremlins and very brutal fashion
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  and it catches you off guard. Yeah.
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  I think it makes it like really effective too.
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  Like I, I feel bad for them because I know that it's not
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  their fault that they turned into these monsters, but they
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  were also still kind of little monsters when they were Mogwai.
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  Also, you know, they, I think they were little shits no matter
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  what. I mean, Gizmo called it like he
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  did not like them in their mock wave form either.
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  No, he didn't he. He knew something was off.
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  Yeah, he, he stayed away from them.
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  But like, man, yeah, this movie, like it, it's just, it's full of
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  a lot of surprises. It's really charming.
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  It's really cute, but it's also really gory and dark at times,
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  which is fucking crazy. I like how all of the pieces of
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  the story end up tying up with each other because we don't just
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  introduce people for the sake of introducing them.
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  Like we get to see Misses Deagle get her comeuppance.
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  Like I'm she she was mean, she threatened to kill Barney and
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  seeing her get thrown out the window, I.
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  I'm so bad, I'd forgotten all about that.
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  That was an amazing death. Just having her just launch from
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  her like, wheelchair, her chair thing.
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  Yeah, her, her chair lift. Yeah, through like the window
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  upstairs is amazing. That's really clever.
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  And I like the idea that it's like these gremlins are just a
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  little, well, I mean, we talked about chaos gremlins over the
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  past few episodes, and this is really where it starts.
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  Yeah, right here. This is a chaos gremlin, man.
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  My favorite. I think one of my favorite
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  shots, though, is when they're all still Mogwai and they've
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  unwrapped the presents and they're playing the little
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  arcade games together. It's so fucking adorable.
• 20:05
  God damn man. You're so cute.
• 20:07
  And like there's also just something very endearing about
• 20:09
  like, when is Jess Gizmo at 1st? And Philly's like putting the
• 20:12
  hat on him. He's like, Oh my God, I gotta
• 20:14
  get a picture of you. That's been us all week with
• 20:16
  Cordelia. Like we're like, Oh my God,
• 20:19
  she's laying in a bed like. Yeah, just a little things.
• 20:23
  Like, yeah, yeah, it's, it's very, it's very endearing.
• 20:27
  I'm glad that he won the fight. To keep them so tiny like that,
• 20:30
  like I, I'm sure it was really, really tough to do what?
• 20:33
  They wanted to do, but it's so worth it.
• 20:35
  Yeah. And it also kind of like makes
• 20:38
  their transformation into the Gremlin side of it a little bit
• 20:42
  more impactful because they're bigger.
• 20:43
  Yeah, Yeah. They are a little bit bigger
• 20:45
  there, yeah. OK, but you're bad.
• 20:48
  The only thing bad I could say is there are parts that just
• 20:52
  kind of go for a little bit too long, OK, Like I I like having
• 20:57
  the fun with them causing chaos throughout town, but it gets
• 21:00
  kind of samey there when we're doing it for about 15 to 20
• 21:02
  minutes straight, which is what it felt like.
• 21:04
  I don't know if that's the true amount of time, but like it, it
• 21:08
  went for a little bit and the whole ending standoff between
• 21:11
  Stripe and them kind of like went for a little bit too long
• 21:15
  for me in that that building where the finale happened there,
• 21:20
  That's really the only bad thing I could say.
• 21:22
  Like just a little bit of like pacing stuff right there.
• 21:24
  It just felt like it dragged a little bit at times.
• 21:28
  My bad is when does it stop being after midnight?
• 21:36
  Yeah, that's the thing. Because it's different time
• 21:38
  zones even, you know, like. I have so many questions about
• 21:42
  how that works. I remember when I, I was little
• 21:45
  and I heard you weren't supposed to wear white after Labor Day.
• 21:47
  And I remember asking, I was like, but it's always after
• 21:51
  Labor Day until it's Labor Day. And I learned, that's how I
• 21:56
  learned that like you, you're allowed to wear light white.
• 21:58
  I guess between Memorial Day and Labor Day.
• 22:00
  That's the part that's not ever said out loud.
• 22:02
  When is when does it become before midnight versus after
• 22:06
  midnight? So I guess if you really, if you
• 22:08
  wanted to think about it, it could just be like a between
• 22:12
  like certain cycles of, you know, like rotating around Earth
• 22:19
  or whatever. Like, you know, like a day, like
• 22:22
  it, it doesn't matter. Just like wherever you are, like
• 22:25
  at that point of night time, like it just like something
• 22:29
  about that is how it is. I don't know, like that's the
• 22:32
  only thing I could think of because like, time.
• 22:34
  Wow, it sounds like you wrote the script.
• 22:36
  Well, John, John Dante, John Dante, that's.
• 22:40
  The guy that I wrote. It with, yeah.
• 22:43
  Like wait, this isn't Gremlins by Joe Dante, this is Gremlins
• 22:48
  by John Dante. Like.
• 22:50
  This kid has been asking for a copy of Gremlins his entire like
• 22:54
  childhood and the parents were like, OK, we got it for you.
• 22:56
  John Dante Written by Travis Wilson director John Dante.
• 23:04
  OK, I don't even know why I was. Talking about it.
• 23:06
  What's your ugly? We got to we got to focus, man.
• 23:09
  Yeah, OK. So I I hate this shit with her
• 23:14
  going after the dog. Yeah.
• 23:17
  It's too cruel. She's like, actually Cruella
• 23:21
  Deville. Like where?
• 23:24
  Why are people so afraid of this evil lady?
• 23:26
  Everybody hates her, just let her be hated.
• 23:29
  Like, people be mean to her and everybody.
• 23:31
  Like she's talking about killing the dog and there are people in
• 23:33
  the bank. They're just nodding their head,
• 23:34
  like, yeah, that's appropriate. That's a reasonable reaction.
• 23:39
  I also I don't like the fact that the kid sold off the mogwai
• 23:46
  at the beginning because like that wasn't his and that grandpa
• 23:52
  now no longer has a pet because his kid went behind his back to
• 23:57
  sell his little pet. I'm going to make the hot take.
• 24:05
  Not really that the the villain of this movie is not the
• 24:14
  Gremlins, and perhaps it's not even Missus Eagle.
• 24:18
  I think it's capitalism. Capitalism, OK.
• 24:22
  Yeah, because that's the really the cause of all of these
• 24:25
  issues. The kids sold the Mogwai because
• 24:27
  his grandpa really needed money. They probably needed money
• 24:30
  because, you know, how else do you survive around here,
• 24:34
  Randall? It thinks every like money can
• 24:36
  fix everything. He wants to be a rich inventor.
• 24:39
  Misses Eagle is evil because she's rich.
• 24:42
  Yeah, like the villain in Gremlins is actually capitalism.
• 24:45
  OK, you know what? Now we're getting to the heart
• 24:47
  of. The And I think whenever we
• 24:49
  watch the sequel, we'll see that's even more true because of
• 24:52
  the metaphor of the shopping mall and Hulk Hogan, man.
• 24:58
  Yeah. Hulk Hogan, also known as the
• 25:02
  Man in Black if you are in our book club.
• 25:05
  Full disclosure, we have not seen Gremlins too.
• 25:07
  I have not. No, but we do own it on.
• 25:09
  DVD. I do own it.
• 25:10
  We need to actually watch it, yeah.
• 25:12
  I agree, we all will get to it. One final ugly, OK?
• 25:16
  I hate hearing Gizmo in pain, which happens a couple of times
• 25:19
  in this movie. It's just so upsetting.
• 25:21
  Howie Mandel, you hurt me. Yeah, I think My Ugly is mostly
• 25:28
  just going to be Misses Eagle because she's like cartoon
• 25:31
  character evil. Yeah, she's like over the top.
• 25:33
  It's really bad. And then also I guess Kate told
• 25:39
  storyline like Christmas and trauma, those go hand in hand.
• 25:43
  I get that. But like the guy at the bank and
• 25:46
  maybe it's just because we're watching too many like sappy
• 25:49
  Christmas movies right now also. But like the guy at the bank
• 25:52
  talking to her like she is like a commodity and he wants to
• 25:55
  like. That guy, yeah, yeah, that guy
• 25:58
  was. We don't really get a lot of
• 26:00
  him. He's just kind of there to be an
• 26:02
  asshole at the beginning. And that's it.
• 26:04
  He's like Cameron in correcting Christmas.
• 26:07
  Like he is, yeah. Or like Tony in Christmas Bell.
• 26:14
  Look up those movies and watch them this year, yeah.
• 26:16
  Do it, Yeah. OK, absurds.
• 26:20
  As you you shared it. For me, it's when they turn to
• 26:24
  gremlins. All of the things that the
• 26:27
  gremlins interact with shrink. Like when they're at the bar,
• 26:31
  the beer mugs are tiny, they're smoking tiny little cigarettes.
• 26:37
  When they're at the movie theater, the seats get tiny to
• 26:41
  where they're all sitting in them.
• 26:43
  Like you can see their heads above the seats when we get the
• 26:46
  like the shot from the back and they're like too scale of like
• 26:50
  the the seats in the theater there.
• 26:52
  So like everything around them just shrinks a little bit.
• 26:58
  It just I caught that whenever I was watching in the sun.
• 27:01
  I was like, you know what, that doesn't make any sense.
• 27:03
  They do not have tiny mugs for beer at a bar for anything like
• 27:08
  that unless they're you. We would be a fan of having like
• 27:12
  sets of miniatures and stuff like that.
• 27:14
  And when we went to Whole Foods last night, which we always get
• 27:18
  a shopping beer at Whole Foods, Yep it.
• 27:21
  Always make bad decisions. It, Yeah, it takes the sting
• 27:24
  away from how much you're going to pay for your groceries.
• 27:27
  We were served in, like, basically wine glasses instead
• 27:31
  of a tiny mug. I would have much preferred a
• 27:33
  tiny mug. Yeah.
• 27:34
  I would have too, yeah. What's your absurd?
• 27:37
  My absurd is also when they become gremlins.
• 27:40
  But I enjoyed the chaos sequences.
• 27:44
  I did not think they went on too long.
• 27:46
  Oh I enjoyed them, I'm just saying like it was a lot of the
• 27:48
  same after a certain point. But there were two specific that
• 27:52
  stand out to me that make me really joyful about this movie.
• 27:56
  And the first one is when they are caroling and they are
• 27:59
  singing their own theme song. Yeah, they're outside of the
• 28:02
  house going. And then the other is when
• 28:06
  they're at the bar and, you know, they're drinking and
• 28:09
  smoking and all that and Kate's trying to serve them.
• 28:12
  That's not what. They're saying I was like, what?
• 28:14
  Like that's. I was like, girl, you don't
• 28:17
  like, you're not going to get fired for not serving these
• 28:19
  creatures. Like, do you think they're going
• 28:21
  to report you to the Better Business Bureau?
• 28:22
  What's going on? It's straight out of an episode
• 28:24
  of Buffy. Like that shit would happen in
• 28:26
  Buffy too. Absolutely.
• 28:28
  Well, I mean, they do have a demon bar in Buffy.
• 28:31
  Yeah, but like normal bar, like if like a bunch of old time
• 28:34
  gremlins came in there, they would just serve them like,
• 28:36
  yeah, sure. I don't think you paid attention
• 28:39
  to the very special episode this season about how beer bad.
• 28:42
  Beer bad So. Yeah, OK.
• 28:46
  All that said, what do you rate in this movie?
• 28:49
  9. I agree it's a solid 9.
• 28:52
  Yeah, I, I, I like this movie. It's really.
• 28:54
  So much fun. It was a good Christmas movie.
• 28:56
  Yeah, like it really is. All right.
• 28:58
  So we have a starting average of nine and I think we're ready to
• 29:01
  talk. We are.
• 29:04
  We start off with Randall Peltzer, inventor.
• 29:07
  It's his voice over. He's in Chinatown.
• 29:10
  He is trying to sell one of his inventions and he talks to this
• 29:14
  little kid who leads him to his grandfather's store.
• 29:16
  He's trying to sell the bathroom buddy.
• 29:18
  It's an all in one sundry device.
• 29:22
  It's clunky. It seems very ergonomical.
• 29:25
  Yeah, it's got like a shaving thing.
• 29:29
  Like, hey, like, you're in a pinch and you need a shave.
• 29:31
  Like, OK, like. Detective Donnie would.
• 29:35
  Dude, he would be so. Into that he would love.
• 29:38
  That the only thing is it's not an electric 1.
• 29:41
  He needs the electric shaver to go bring it.
• 29:43
  Yeah, but what if he doesn't have his shaver charged?
• 29:46
  He's in a pinch, yeah. Yeah, you're right.
• 29:48
  It has the bathroom buddy as a backup.
• 29:49
  Perfect. So he's trying to sell this.
• 29:53
  And then he starts hearing like this mewing sound, this little,
• 29:58
  like pathetic little noises. And as most people with a soul
• 30:03
  do, he's like, I need to see the adorable little bastard making
• 30:07
  this sound. An adorable little bastard it
• 30:10
  is. Except grandfather says that's
• 30:11
  not for sale. That's a Mogwai, My Mogwai.
• 30:16
  And he's like, all right. I mean, like, I will, I'll pay
• 30:18
  you $200. It's a perfect gift for my son
• 30:21
  for Christmas. And he's like, sorry, not for
• 30:24
  sale. Too much responsibility.
• 30:28
  This also ties into the whole getting a pet for Christmas just
• 30:32
  because you think it's cute. Yeah, you're signing on for a
• 30:35
  real responsibility. Yeah, yeah.
• 30:37
  You got to actually commit to it.
• 30:39
  And that's like, that's a crazy thing to throw onto a person not
• 30:43
  suspecting that. Like, OK, hey, you're
• 30:45
  responsible for a life now. Yeah, damn.
• 30:48
  Yeah. Like that's that's not.
• 30:50
  I don't think that's a gift that you should necessarily surprise
• 30:53
  somebody with. This guy was.
• 30:55
  Ever. He was like last minute
• 30:57
  shopping. He was like fuck, what do I get?
• 30:59
  OK. He's like been looking around
• 31:01
  for his son. He's like, what do I get my son?
• 31:04
  I don't know. How old is his son supposed to
• 31:06
  be, by the way? How old is?
• 31:08
  He is an adult. Yeah.
• 31:10
  He's he's working at a bank and he's drinking at a bar.
• 31:13
  I don't know what the drinking, what the legal drinking age was
• 31:16
  in 1984 in New York. Still 21.
• 31:20
  I mean it used to be 18, I just don't know when it changed.
• 31:26
  Well, yeah, either way, like he's he's a pretty big like I I
• 31:30
  had remembered that the son was Corey Feldman, but.
• 31:35
  That's I was like, he's somebody else's.
• 31:36
  Yeah, he's a He's barely like he's in this movie, but not as
• 31:40
  much as. I Ever Remember does seem like
• 31:41
  the type of movie where Corey Feldman would have the mob.
• 31:44
  Why? Yeah, that's.
• 31:46
  And he even tried to make it happen.
• 31:47
  His character did, Yeah. So Randall starts to walk away.
• 31:53
  The grandson follows him out, and he's like, listen, I'll sell
• 31:56
  this to you. Grandpa needs somebody, like,
• 31:59
  just right outside. Yeah.
• 32:00
  I'll meet you out there with it. 3 rules keep it out of light,
• 32:03
  sunlight will kill it. Keep it away from water, don't
• 32:06
  even let it drink water. This shit is alphabet.
• 32:10
  No water and never feed it after midnight.
• 32:14
  I will not clarify on that rule anymore.
• 32:17
  Which midnight? Yes.
• 32:19
  Yes, yes. Like what if we were traveling
• 32:21
  to the West Coast for visiting family?
• 32:23
  No food after midnight. No midnight.
• 32:27
  All right, so then we have like a Christmas Eve montage.
• 32:30
  Yeah. We're in Kingston Falls, USA.
• 32:33
  We have Dick Miller alert. Right.
• 32:35
  Yeah, well, Dick Miller ends the Christmas montage.
• 32:38
  Yeah, because he's got a wax poetic about American made
• 32:42
  vehicles, which, if you're going to hire a character actor to be
• 32:46
  this type of person in the 1980s movie, Dick Miller is the one.
• 32:49
  Yeah, he absolutely is. He's out there watching.
• 32:52
  Billy, I'm also just really excited to have Dick Miller as a
• 32:56
  random character in a movie and him not in him being more than
• 33:00
  one scene. Yeah, it's really nice.
• 33:03
  Yeah. Well, I mean, he was also in the
• 33:04
  howling, right? Yes, he was the store owner
• 33:06
  there. Yeah, however, been kind of cool
• 33:08
  to see like a connection there like he has like the magic shop
• 33:11
  here. Too.
• 33:11
  Yeah. Oh, that would have been cool.
• 33:13
  Yeah, so anyways, he's out there.
• 33:15
  He's helping Billy because Billy is having a hard time getting
• 33:18
  his car to start. That's why he's, you know,
• 33:21
  complaining about the non American made vehicles because
• 33:24
  apparently they got gremlins in them.
• 33:26
  Listen, I'm a Volkswagen owner. I'm not necessarily loyal to any
• 33:30
  brand, but I will say that those fuckers are efficient.
• 33:33
  Yeah, so it's a fucking tank. Same with Toyota.
• 33:36
  Yeah, Japanese. So Billy decides that he's going
• 33:40
  to walk to work and he's allowed to bring Barney, I guess because
• 33:44
  there's like even a spot for him to tie his lead up under his
• 33:46
  desk. I don't necessarily know if he's
• 33:48
  allowed to bring Barney based off of the reaction he gets
• 33:50
  later, he just kind of does. I it seems like one of those
• 33:53
  things, like it was mostly allowed to tell Missus Eagle
• 33:58
  maybe what he's a bitch about it.
• 34:00
  Yeah. So he's at the bank and he's
• 34:03
  there late. Because he.
• 34:04
  Couldn't get his car to go. Kate is also there.
• 34:08
  She she works multiple places. She's a hard worker.
• 34:10
  She is trying to get a petition signed to save a historical
• 34:14
  building because Missus Deagle again has the embodiment of
• 34:18
  capitalism, wants to tear it down.
• 34:20
  Yeah, yeah. Miss Deagle, she shows up, she
• 34:23
  gets a rude entrance because there's these kids, this family
• 34:26
  outside, this mom and two kids. And like, we need, like, the,
• 34:29
  like, lilting violin music, yeah.
• 34:33
  'Cause she's like laying it on thick.
• 34:34
  Here with a sob. Story.
• 34:36
  She's like, I just got a new job, so with my husband, we need
• 34:39
  one more week. The kids haven't eaten.
• 34:41
  And she's like, I don't care. And she's like, do you see the
• 34:44
  snowman head? A dog broke?
• 34:46
  It seems like maybe you shouldn't have a ceramic snowman
• 34:49
  outside. I mean like, how do you know it
• 34:52
  was the dog, you know? She's also.
• 34:55
  True, yeah, but she's blaming it on Barney because she just
• 34:59
  fucking hates dogs, apparently. Yeah, and then when Barney, you
• 35:04
  know, responds, she fends that she's got a weak heart.
• 35:07
  Yeah, well, I think she actually doesn't have a weak heart,
• 35:10
  because she kind of does say that later when she's all by
• 35:12
  herself too. But either way, she doesn't have
• 35:15
  a heart, Travis. She has no heart.
• 35:16
  You're right, Barney. I I like that.
• 35:18
  He just like pounces on her. He's like, you fucking talking
• 35:20
  shit about me bro. Like just jumps on her.
• 35:23
  They break it up. She threatens to have the dog
• 35:27
  kill it. If it happens again and she's
• 35:29
  saying that he needs to be fired, but he ends up not being
• 35:31
  fired. Yeah, because apparently the
• 35:34
  boss had change of heart because it's Christmas time.
• 35:36
  Yeah, you know. At Christmas time?
• 35:38
  How are you going to fire a dog at Christmas time?
• 35:41
  You can't. How are you ever going to fire a
• 35:43
  dog? Like ever.
• 35:44
  Yeah, exactly. You just.
• 35:45
  They retire and that's it, OK. So Billy goes to the bar to hang
• 35:49
  out with Kate and work on his drawings.
• 35:51
  He's actually, unlike the cheesy Christmas movies, he's actually
• 35:56
  artistically talented. Yeah, yeah.
• 35:59
  Gerald comes in, he's he's got an MBA.
• 36:02
  He's going to take over as the owner of the bank someday.
• 36:05
  If it was up to him, Billy and Barney would both be out on
• 36:08
  their He's like, hey Katie, baby, come on, when are you
• 36:11
  going to go out to dinner with me?
• 36:12
  He's like, you haven't seen my new place yet and she's like, I
• 36:15
  never saw your old place. I love it that.
• 36:17
  Was a good comeback. Like she had, she had no time
• 36:20
  for him. She's just like, you're not the
• 36:21
  fucking one, pal. Yeah, so.
• 36:25
  And then he also like makes fun of Billy for working to support
• 36:28
  his family. Yeah, yeah.
• 36:30
  It's like, when are you going to realize that it's not all about
• 36:33
  family? Like he really is just an evil
• 36:37
  Christmas movie guy. It's.
• 36:38
  So weird too because he just kind of disappears after this
• 36:41
  scene. You almost feels like they were
• 36:43
  setting him up to be a shit throughout the whole movie.
• 36:45
  But no, like he doesn't even have like a an instance of
• 36:48
  running into a gremlin like that would have been satisfying.
• 36:51
  Yeah, exactly. So Billy at home is helping mom
• 36:56
  with dinner. There is a big sigh.
• 36:59
  He's just a big sigh because she asked him to do the eggs.
• 37:03
  They've got all kinds of inventions around this house.
• 37:06
  It's very much Inspector Gadget meets Stew Pickles.
• 37:11
  Yeah, except this guy sucks at it.
• 37:14
  Yeah, like everything just does not work the way it's intended
• 37:17
  to. No, the way they said it is that
• 37:19
  it works for the first few times and then it then it just stops.
• 37:23
  Yeah. Like the eggs are not like it
• 37:25
  smashes 1 egg and then all the other eggs just kind of pour
• 37:28
  into the bowl. Yeah, yeah.
• 37:30
  So he ends up like manually breaking them, which seems
• 37:34
  easier from an egg, like from not having to pick out egg
• 37:39
  shell. Bit's perspective anyway.
• 37:41
  But hey, Dad's home. Yeah.
• 37:43
  Yeah. And he's got a present for
• 37:44
  Billy. Yeah.
• 37:45
  He has to be open right now. He's like it cannot wait until
• 37:47
  curse. Yeah, he's like, OK, it's a
• 37:49
  puppy, isn't it? And he's like, it's a mogwai.
• 37:53
  And Milly is like, what's a mogwai?
• 37:54
  He goes, I don't know, I didn't call him a gizmo.
• 37:57
  Cool. It's a.
• 37:58
  Good name for him though, it fits.
• 38:00
  I guess so. And the mom, it's like, OK, hey,
• 38:03
  let's go to a picture together. And she gets her big camera and
• 38:06
  takes the picture, but the big flash happens and that little
• 38:09
  gizmo gets all scared and hurt. Yeah.
• 38:11
  And then the dad's like, Oh yeah, that's right, there's
• 38:13
  rules. Yeah, almost forgotten.
• 38:17
  This guy is just so irresponsible.
• 38:19
  Yeah. He really is just seeing this
• 38:22
  PET as like a commodity. My next note is Corey Feldman
• 38:26
  arrives as a tree. Oh, hold on.
• 38:29
  We got a couple of things that happened first because we got
• 38:33
  Gizmo upstairs and he's singing and playing the keyboard with
• 38:35
  Billy. Oh yeah, it's really.
• 38:36
  Adorable. So adorable.
• 38:38
  And then he puts his Anna hat on him, and he wants to show him in
• 38:42
  the mirror what he looks like. But the flash gets him.
• 38:45
  It startles him, and he falls into the trash can and gets a
• 38:47
  little bright. Yeah.
• 38:48
  And he gets a little cut. So Billy's got to take him and
• 38:51
  clean them up. And they're just like, so cute
• 38:52
  together. I will feel they're not even at
• 38:55
  all amused that he can speak. Yeah, you know, isn't that
• 38:59
  crazy? Like he's out, he's talking
• 39:00
  words to you, he's communicating.
• 39:02
  You were just unfazed by. That that's crazy.
• 39:05
  It's, it is a little bit like they're not like, oh, that's
• 39:09
  English, Yeah. Yeah, especially with a being
• 39:12
  raised by like, you know, a Chinese dude.
• 39:14
  Yeah. Is he bilingual?
• 39:16
  Yeah, I mean he is. You're talking who the the shop
• 39:20
  owner. No, the Mugwai gizmo.
• 39:22
  He probably is. Actually, he probably is
• 39:24
  bilingual. OK, in the morning Billy gets
• 39:28
  juiced by his dad's juicer and then this is when the Christmas
• 39:32
  tree is delivered by a tiny Christmas tree, AKA Corey
• 39:36
  Feldman. We had a shot of him before at
• 39:39
  the like the tree yard or whatever, like where he was a
• 39:42
  Christmas tree already. We just didn't know his Corey
• 39:44
  Feldman. Yeah, so he comes upstairs
• 39:48
  because he wants to see the Mogwai Gizmo's watching TV.
• 39:53
  He specifically likes racing. He's.
• 39:55
  Like imitating the cars on there, like he's acting like
• 39:58
  he's driving along with it. Yeah, it's really cool.
• 40:00
  Yeah, and Pete, that's Corey Feldman's character.
• 40:05
  He wants to hold Gizmo, and as he's picking him up, Pete
• 40:08
  accidentally spills water. It ruins the art on the table,
• 40:13
  which is frustrating already, but it also gets Gizmo wet and
• 40:18
  Gizmo, it hurts him. That's so sad and.
• 40:21
  He's like getting these bubbles that are just kind of growing
• 40:24
  on. Him.
• 40:24
  They're not nearly alarmed enough by this.
• 40:28
  I know. Like all this whimsical magical
• 40:30
  shit happens. They're like, huh?
• 40:32
  Like wow, that's weird. He's just like.
• 40:34
  Whoa, Jesse's pops are just like, that was like a final.
• 40:40
  Destination day to. Day.
• 40:41
  It was so like it felt intended, like OK.
• 40:46
  But yeah, like, all these, like, puff balls, just basically it
• 40:49
  would be like if Talia's hives just like, grew until they
• 40:52
  popped off, Yeah. Dude, what if Talia shot off a
• 40:56
  bunch of tiny Talias? The world could not handle.
• 41:00
  It I'm starting to realize now that that episode of Futurama
• 41:04
  was probably inspired by gremlins, because that's what
• 41:07
  happens with them. There's like the tiny little
• 41:09
  things that grow off of them that turn into the tiny little
• 41:12
  aliens. Kaka, sorry, OK.
• 41:18
  Blurry in your mouth. Sorry, I can't.
• 41:21
  I'm not going to keep trying to sing because my voice sounds
• 41:23
  terrible. It's OK.
• 41:25
  But yeah, there's five new mug wives and Pete's like, well, can
• 41:28
  I have one now? And Gizmo's sad.
• 41:31
  Yeah, and he shows it to his dad and his dad's just like, huh?
• 41:36
  His dad's like, we're probably, we probably sell this.
• 41:40
  That's right, yeah. He's wouldn't sell.
• 41:41
  Them. Yeah, like.
• 41:43
  And he's like and he's like. Think about it, Peltzers.
• 41:47
  Maguas, you didn't invent this, Sir.
• 41:50
  This is real capitalism. It is.
• 41:53
  This is the actual spirit of capitalism, and it's evil.
• 41:56
  So this is also, I think, where we get the shot of them just all
• 41:59
  like they've unwrapped the presents under the tree and
• 42:02
  they're just playing with a little tiny arcade machine and
• 42:04
  just having a good time. Gizmos kind of keeping his
• 42:07
  distance from them though. Billy wakes up in the night to
• 42:12
  hear Britney crying, just sad and he looks around for him and
• 42:15
  he just hung up on the string lights outside.
• 42:18
  I'm just glad he didn't get strangled by them.
• 42:21
  I know, but it was just like, oh, Barney doesn't deserve that.
• 42:24
  So. And Billy doesn't think it's the
• 42:26
  Gremlins. He thinks it's Missus Deagle.
• 42:28
  But I'm going to say Missus Deagle threatened far worse than
• 42:31
  that. That's true.
• 42:32
  Yeah Yeah, you know, I I kind of hate how he like they're already
• 42:37
  like against like the five other little mug white there because
• 42:39
  like dude, like give them a chance.
• 42:42
  I know Gizmo is kind of like not really big on them, but you
• 42:45
  know, like he's already like he he keeps them in a box like away
• 42:49
  from gizmo like they are beneath them.
• 42:52
  Yeah, like no wonder they're fucking.
• 42:54
  Gizmo is your king. Yeah, they're, they're like
• 42:56
  forming A mutiny because they're being treated like.
• 42:58
  Shit no, because Stripe has does the Mohawk.
• 43:01
  Clearly he is not going to take this.
• 43:04
  No, no, like he, like, honestly, we're seeing the origin story of
• 43:10
  him being a super villain here because he's being treated so
• 43:12
  differently. Yeah.
• 43:14
  But Randall says it's OK We'll leave Barney with your grandma
• 43:17
  while I'm at convention, and I'll bring him back home in time
• 43:20
  for Christmas. This just feels very contrived.
• 43:24
  Yeah. Honestly, Yeah.
• 43:25
  Yeah. But I do like that we have this
• 43:28
  instead of being eaten, so I'll take the contrivance.
• 43:34
  Yes. OK.
• 43:37
  OK. So Mom, I look forward to your
• 43:39
  text message telling you what the actual word is.
• 43:41
  So Billy is now showing the mogwai to Mr. Hanson, who is a
• 43:45
  school teacher, I guess the science teacher probably.
• 43:48
  Is it, do you think it was intentional that they're doing
• 43:51
  this movie with puppets and they named the teacher Mr. Hanson?
• 43:53
  Oh my God, I didn't even think of that, but that's actually a
• 43:55
  good point. Like you may have, you may be on
• 43:57
  something. I cracked the code, people.
• 44:00
  So he demonstrates by pouring more water.
• 44:02
  What a fucking asshole dude. Why would you like watch this
• 44:05
  shit? And just like, yeah, it hurts
• 44:08
  him so bad bro, but watch this, he's going to pop off.
• 44:11
  Yeah, like literally though. Yeah, he's actually going to pop
• 44:14
  up. So he's keeping the bonus gizmo
• 44:17
  to do some testing on, and again, this is going to seem
• 44:20
  really cruel because he's just for the love of science and not
• 44:24
  considering that it's a living creature.
• 44:26
  Yeah, and he takes his blood and so too, like, it's just like.
• 44:30
  Man it's so sad. I want to shout out our vet we
• 44:34
  went to. We've got a new vet recently and
• 44:36
  whenever they have to take blood they give the pets treats to
• 44:40
  distract them while they're doing it.
• 44:41
  So like whenever we go in to get Talia's levels checked, which is
• 44:44
  unfortunately a lot right now because of the medication she's
• 44:47
  on, she just gets to lick up either whipped cream or peanut
• 44:51
  butter the whole time. Yeah, she's off the medication,
• 44:53
  by the way. She's not getting her routine
• 44:55
  checkups anymore. Yeah, yeah.
• 44:56
  But I mean it was for a while was happening.
• 44:58
  So it's, it's been really nice to see them like they have this
• 45:03
  whole culture of against fear. There, I like that too.
• 45:08
  We do have to cut to Dick Miller once again, Mr. Futterman.
• 45:10
  He's lamenting about the gremlins that took down the
• 45:13
  planes in World War 2. He's drunk at the bar.
• 45:17
  Yeah, Kate has to cut him off. Yeah she's like convincing him
• 45:20
  to walk home since he's super drunk cuz he wants to drive his.
• 45:24
  A bulldozer. Yeah, yeah.
• 45:28
  That's just what he gets around and like he is like shit talking
• 45:31
  the the vehicle that Billy has been.
• 45:34
  He's like, yeah, I got a bulldozer.
• 45:37
  Yeah, I mean, it's not American if it's not super inefficient
• 45:40
  with using gas. That's a great point, you're
• 45:44
  right. She convinces him to walk home.
• 45:47
  That's still dangerous with how drunk he is and the fact that
• 45:50
  it's snowing, but at least he's not behind the wheel.
• 45:53
  They just let him go. Yeah, and she and Billy walk and
• 45:56
  they talk about seasonal depression.
• 45:59
  She hates Christmas. She says lots of people hate
• 46:01
  Christmas. Lots of people kill themselves
• 46:03
  around Christmas time. Sorry for anybody that this
• 46:06
  triggers. I should have.
• 46:07
  She's just like super good morning.
• 46:09
  She's super pretty depressed about everything right now.
• 46:13
  Billy's kind of confused. He's like, I thought everybody
• 46:15
  was happy on Christmas. Yeah.
• 46:16
  And then he goes, well, do you want to, do you want to go on a
• 46:19
  date? And she's like, yeah, I'm free
• 46:21
  on Tuesday. Like that kind of turned me on.
• 46:25
  Yeah. So like I don't I don't
• 46:26
  understand but. Yeah.
• 46:29
  So yeah, they're gonna have a date, Yeah.
• 46:31
  Mr. Hansen's doing his blood test.
• 46:34
  We see that the Mogwai does not like the needle.
• 46:36
  You can't blame him. No, no.
• 46:39
  And the other Mogwai's are up in the room and they're hungry.
• 46:43
  Yeah. They're begging Billy for.
• 46:44
  Food. They're begging for food.
• 46:46
  Billy looks at his clog. It's not midnight, so he goes
• 46:49
  ahead and feeds them. Gizmo is like, I'm good, I got
• 46:52
  my book, I'm fine. Yeah, yeah, good old Gizmo.
• 46:55
  So they're eating chicken. And then Mr. Hanson leaves a
• 46:59
  sandwich within reaching distance of the mogwai in the
• 47:02
  cage, and we see the clock in the classroom.
• 47:05
  It's almost 2:00 AM, so we know definitively it's past 12.
• 47:09
  Billy and Gizmo fall asleep watching Invasion of the Body
• 47:14
  Snatchers. Is that what it was?
• 47:15
  Oh. Which makes sense because we're
• 47:17
  going to see them in the cocoons.
• 47:18
  I like that little tie and that was nice.
• 47:20
  I didn't. I didn't recognize.
• 47:22
  That, Yeah, I think it was the, like the original.
• 47:24
  Yeah. So when they wake up, the Mob
• 47:27
  Wives are all molted, and Billy realizes that his clock still
• 47:32
  shows it as being before 12. And he's like, oh shit, the
• 47:35
  clock is busted because it's one of his dad's clocks.
• 47:39
  No, they shoot a. Wire they shoot a wire they did
• 47:42
  OK they. Sabotaged them.
• 47:44
  I was kidding. I didn't write that down.
• 47:45
  I just made an assumption that's bad on my part.
• 47:48
  Mr. Hanson sees the same. He sees that it's molten.
• 47:52
  He calls it the pupil stage. Pete's there for some reason.
• 47:55
  I think they really wanted Corey Feldman to be the little buddy
• 47:59
  through more of this movie than he ended up being.
• 48:01
  Yeah, seems. Like it misses, Deagle drops by
• 48:04
  the bank just to reaffirm to everybody that she's the worst
• 48:09
  and the mog wise are hatching. Yeah, back at Billy's house.
• 48:15
  Yeah, up in his room. We see them hatching and we get
• 48:19
  a call from Mr. Hanson to Billy and he's saying you need to come
• 48:23
  to school right away. And he is attacked while he's
• 48:28
  trying to lure it out while he's waiting for Billy.
• 48:31
  Yeah, because like it, it kind of like scrambling around the
• 48:33
  classroom and ends up hiding under the desk and he gets
• 48:35
  attacked and pulled under the desk.
• 48:36
  Yeah, it's like the first little instance of horror in this
• 48:38
  movie, which, you know, like, it kind of catches you off guard
• 48:41
  because everything else has been so whimsical, you know?
• 48:44
  Yeah, and so when Billy gets there, he finds him under the
• 48:46
  desk. He's got a syringe in his butt.
• 48:48
  Yeah, what was he shot with? I don't know, but I like that
• 48:52
  the Mogwai's like giving him a. Taste of his own message, yeah.
• 48:55
  Yeah, like don't fucking stick them, bro.
• 48:56
  Some mafia shit. It is, yeah.
• 48:59
  Leaving a message right there, Yeah.
• 49:01
  So he's looking around for the Mogwai and it starts to try and
• 49:04
  attack him. Yeah, well, he isn't logging
• 49:07
  around for the Mogwai. He's trying to call him the
• 49:09
  phone 911 to report Mr. Hanson, and his hand is scratched by
• 49:14
  this gremlin, and the gremlin escapes through the vent.
• 49:20
  And so it's kind of like a little Scooby-doo chase scene,
• 49:23
  and they both wind up in the nurse's office.
• 49:25
  Yeah, cuz he's trying to patch up his hand cuz it got cut.
• 49:28
  And they have a standoff and then it disappears again and we
• 49:31
  see all the gremlins back at the house are being mean to Gizmo
• 49:34
  man. What we know is true wish
• 49:37
  fulfillment, which is also sad. Yeah, this is where there's,
• 49:41
  it's the darts, right? Yeah.
• 49:42
  And then he like, somehow like, stumbles into the laundry chute
• 49:46
  and manages to fall down there and hide from them.
• 49:49
  Which is good. It worked out a lot better for
• 49:51
  him than it did for Jamie Lloyd. Yeah.
• 49:53
  Yeah, it did. So the mom goes to investigate
• 49:57
  all of these sounds and Billy tries to call and warn her but
• 50:01
  then the line gets cut out so she doesn't have the full
• 50:04
  picture. And this is where Gremlin comes
• 50:06
  down in the kitchen and is being chaotic, puts its head in the
• 50:11
  juicer and mom starts the juicers that way it's head.
• 50:14
  Gets juicy. Oh my God, it's so fucking gory.
• 50:18
  Another one pops in and starts throwing plates at her, so she
• 50:21
  microwaves it. Yeah, and then explodes.
• 50:24
  Then she sees a stocking moving over the fireplace and she is
• 50:29
  getting ready to attack her, but it's just a toy.
• 50:31
  But inside the tree is a gremlin that jumps out and attacks her.
• 50:35
  Billy gets home. Yeah, and they conveniently,
• 50:39
  they have two swords right next to the door in case anything
• 50:41
  like this ever happens. Randall Peltzer absolutely
• 50:44
  strikes me as a sword man. Yeah, yeah.
• 50:48
  Whoa, hey, it paid off big time here because he, Billy grabs the
• 50:52
  sword and he swings it at the little gremlin.
• 50:54
  Does not cut it. I don't.
• 50:56
  Think, but it knocks it into the fireplace.
• 50:58
  Yeah, so it just burns to death. And then stripe the leader.
• 51:01
  He is the only one left, but he escapes through the window
• 51:03
  because he's got to be a little ass woman.
• 51:05
  We're gonna break a window that's also expensive.
• 51:07
  Mom was a fucking badass in the. Scene was.
• 51:09
  Like you don't expect her to just go off on these things, but
• 51:12
  he like she just like kills. We went from her being
• 51:15
  decapitated and body thrown down the stairs to like having a kill
• 51:20
  count of three. It's insane.
• 51:21
  It's. Impressive, yeah.
• 51:22
  For real, considering what she's working against.
• 51:25
  Yeah, Billy takes mom to a doctor's house to check on her,
• 51:30
  like cuts and whatnot, and also keep her safe.
• 51:32
  And he goes back to check on Gizmo and look for Stripe.
• 51:38
  As he's like, going around town. We see the door of the YMCA.
• 51:43
  It's broken. So Stripe sneaks in and he jumps
• 51:49
  into the swimming pool. He's.
• 51:53
  Doing and Billy follows him and sees what's happening just in
• 51:57
  time. Can't solve anything, so Billy
• 52:00
  goes to the police station to explain what's happening.
• 52:03
  Do we think this went well? No Anybody.
• 52:05
  Anybody want to adventure? A guess.
• 52:07
  Well, it does not help at all that they are drunk.
• 52:12
  They're they're like drinking on the job and they're not even
• 52:14
  trying to hide it's. Christmas Eve.
• 52:17
  Yeah, crime never happens around Christmas Eve.
• 52:19
  Never. Statistically, never.
• 52:22
  It is not a terrible time for crime on Christmas Eve.
• 52:24
  Are you being for real? OK, I was gonna say like, I feel
• 52:28
  like that's a pretty big time right there.
• 52:30
  Listen, I know my voice isn't conveying all of the tones.
• 52:33
  It really does. But yeah OK, the gremlins start
• 52:36
  messing with the Fudermans. They are playing like nothing
• 52:41
  around with stuff around the house.
• 52:43
  His antenna, because he's trying to watch TV and the antenna, the
• 52:47
  reception goes out. So he's like, fuck it, I'm going
• 52:49
  to go check the antenna on the roof.
• 52:51
  Yeah, so he goes out there and. They have his blow.
• 52:55
  Yeah, they just drive his fucking thing out of the garage
• 52:59
  towards him. He runs back inside and they
• 53:02
  drive it through the house and into both him and his wife.
• 53:04
  This is the scene that was in Christine the book and cut out
• 53:09
  from the movie. I wanted to see Christine ruin
• 53:13
  the The Body Shop owner's house. Yeah, we.
• 53:17
  Didn't. Get that?
• 53:18
  I know. Yeah, you're.
• 53:19
  Right. We didn't get that and I'm
• 53:20
  disappointed. John Carpenter If Joe Dante can
• 53:23
  and run a vehicle into a house, I know damn well you can.
• 53:27
  Yeah, well, he had the backing of Steven Spielberg.
• 53:30
  But it's John Carpenter. See, Travis, This is why John
• 53:32
  Carpenter is going to fight you. It's Steven Spielberg versus
• 53:35
  Stephen King who wins. I would also watch that fight.
• 53:41
  That's the that's the opening card before me and John
• 53:44
  Carpenter. And then like one of them runs
• 53:49
  out at the end to like. Yeah.
• 53:51
  Break up the fight. Yeah, that's that's the only way
• 53:54
  I have a chance of beating up John Carpenter.
• 53:58
  OK, so they're dead. Yeah, the cops, meanwhile, are
• 54:02
  being amused by Gizmo because he is, you know, adorable and
• 54:06
  amusing. Yeah, like he they have proof
• 54:08
  now that there are little tiny creatures.
• 54:10
  They're still being oblivious to the.
• 54:12
  Well, yeah. Because if you saw this little
• 54:14
  sucker, you wouldn't think that he's going to ruin the town.
• 54:17
  Yeah, but he's telling him like, but if you do this midnight, the
• 54:22
  cops probably also ask when I'm like, OK, so like when midnight
• 54:26
  what? Midnight Which?
• 54:27
  Midnight. And he doesn't have a good
• 54:29
  answer for that, because nobody does.
• 54:30
  You know what he needs? They needed the clock from Santa
• 54:33
  Sleigh that has the time in all areas right there.
• 54:37
  But then are we going to pull some Goldberg shit and say like,
• 54:41
  well, the North Pole, it's whatever time zone we choose?
• 54:44
  You know that's exactly what would have happened.
• 54:46
  They get a call about the Frederman wreckage, and they
• 54:50
  still don't believe that it's gremlins.
• 54:51
  Billy, Should I say it's definitely gremlins?
• 54:53
  They're like, no, it's just an accident and Frederman was
• 54:55
  probably drunk and left his plow running.
• 54:57
  I mean, it's probably a good assumption on a normal.
• 55:00
  Day. They're probably drinking
• 55:01
  buddies with him. Yeah, so we see the Gremlins are
• 55:05
  messing around with things like the mail and stoplights and Mrs.
• 55:11
  Deagall. Yeah.
• 55:13
  That's that's to their Christmas caroling to have Mrs. House.
• 55:17
  Yeah, she is, immediately and amused.
• 55:19
  She's like, who the fuck is Christmas caroling on Christmas
• 55:21
  Eve? What the fuck?
• 55:22
  Yeah, And then she closes the door on them and she's like, OK,
• 55:25
  I'm dying. I can't do this, not now.
• 55:27
  This is not my time. And so she gets back into her
• 55:30
  little chairs. That way she can go up to her
• 55:32
  bed and it's been rigged for super speed and she ends up
• 55:36
  flying through the window. That's such a fun death.
• 55:39
  Yeah, and it happens right in front of the cops.
• 55:41
  Like her body lands right in front of them as they're driving
• 55:46
  around and they're just in display.
• 55:48
  They're like what the fuck just happened in this deal she's just
• 55:50
  watched through the window right in front of.
• 55:52
  Us and then further down the street they see somebody dressed
• 55:55
  in Santa being attacked by the gremlins.
• 55:58
  And there's just like all kinds of general.
• 56:00
  Chaos. I don't like how it like.
• 56:02
  Their reaction is like, we gotta get out of here.
• 56:04
  No, no, the like the guy comes over there and they had the
• 56:07
  window down and they just roll it out.
• 56:09
  Like they don't even want to help them.
• 56:11
  Like I want to go home. They don't want to.
• 56:14
  Grizz Eve was supposed to be a quiet night of drinking at the
• 56:17
  station. Yeah, yeah.
• 56:19
  So we now have. They they crashed, their car
• 56:23
  gets damaged by the gremlins and so they end up crashing.
• 56:26
  Well, yeah, but also like, before then they're on the radio
• 56:29
  rock. And Ricky, who is like this
• 56:31
  radio personality that we've heard the entire time, is also
• 56:33
  being attacked by the Gremlins too.
• 56:36
  So yeah, they're at the Dory's bar now, which is where Kate
• 56:40
  works, and they have taken over the bar and they're having the
• 56:44
  time of their lives there. Yeah, I think there's a couple
• 56:49
  of important things to to mention as well.
• 56:53
  We've got Billy's car is actually starting right now and
• 56:57
  he hears Pete calling into Rock and Ricky.
• 57:00
  That's where that. Happened.
• 57:01
  That's where that happens. And then he hears the radio
• 57:04
  station being broken into. Meanwhile, Dad, after his
• 57:07
  convention, is trying to sell his smokeless ashtray to a
• 57:11
  smoker at a gas station. Yeah.
• 57:15
  It's it ends up not being super, super important, but it's kind
• 57:18
  of a thing at the end. The dad just kind of like shows
• 57:21
  up. What about this movie?
• 57:24
  Like at the beginning and then at the.
• 57:25
  End. I feel like they had Hoyt
• 57:27
  accident for two days of filming.
• 57:29
  So yeah, it seems like. It Kate is serving the gremlins
• 57:33
  at the bar, she's trying to light the cigarettes for that
• 57:36
  like she's I don't know why she got it.
• 57:39
  And maybe it's one of those things that like you just get so
• 57:41
  panicked and caught up in the moment that you don't realize
• 57:43
  why you're doing what you're doing.
• 57:45
  But she goes to light their cigarettes for them and realizes
• 57:47
  they're afraid of the fire. And that's how she realizes how
• 57:51
  she can get them to kind of give her space to get out.
• 57:54
  And so she starts just triggering with camera flashes.
• 57:58
  And then Billy pulls up and he's got the headlights flashing into
• 58:01
  Dory's bar. And so that gives them enough
• 58:04
  time for her to get out. But then the car stops again, so
• 58:09
  they have to run for it. Yeah, so this is where Kate
• 58:13
  gives her Christmas sob story about what happened to her dad.
• 58:18
  It's Christmas Eve and she and her mom were decorating the tree
• 58:22
  and waiting for her dad to come home, but he never came home.
• 58:25
  There's no answer at the office and they go 5 days with no sign
• 58:28
  for him and they're desperate and sad and hungry and cold.
• 58:33
  So they start a fire and they smell something awful and they
• 58:37
  call somebody and they find in the fireblaze your dad dressed
• 58:42
  in a Santa suit. He broke his neck trying to drop
• 58:45
  down the chimney. Fucking dramatic right there.
• 58:48
  It's so dark. Also it's dramatic and dark but
• 58:55
  who the fuck thinks they can climb down a chimney?
• 58:58
  I mean there. Especially because most chimneys
• 59:01
  have a cap on them so that way you don't get things like bats
• 59:04
  and corals inside of it. Yeah, I mean, there, there are
• 59:07
  plenty of incidents in like real life where this is just a thing
• 59:11
  because people think that like it's people have seen it in
• 59:14
  movies and TV shows. So therefore it must be.
• 59:16
  I think you can. Really, I love the logic of
• 59:18
  that. Like Santa's not real, but
• 59:22
  surely dropping down a chimney is fine?
• 59:24
  I think it depends. On the.
• 59:25
  Chimney. Are they same people trying to
• 59:26
  jump off of the roof of their house because it's the same
• 59:29
  drop? Yeah.
• 59:31
  Well, you can like kind of like wall climb your way down there
• 59:35
  if it's a big enough chimney. If it's not, then you might be
• 59:39
  able to like he. Clearly fell long enough to hit
• 59:42
  his head at an angle and break his neck.
• 59:45
  Yeah, but he didn't hit the ground.
• 59:47
  I'm just saying like he wasn't wall climbing, he did something,
• 59:50
  he was falling. He fucked himself up either way.
• 59:52
  Do not go down chimneys. Yeah, that's the last moral of
• 59:55
  the story. Yeah, that's what they were
• 59:56
  trying to hammer home here with this movie.
• 59:59
  We have the Gremlins at the movie theater watching Snow
• 1:00:01
  White. I'm shocked they got away with.
• 1:00:04
  That dude, I love that they're all singing along and then
• 1:00:07
  whenever they walk into the theater, Gizmo is also singing
• 1:00:10
  along to it. It's like the the dwarfs that
• 1:00:12
  are singing their song, it's just so adorable.
• 1:00:15
  I fully believe that. And I mean, if you have pets,
• 1:00:18
  you've seen them you like. We leave stuff on for the pets
• 1:00:21
  all the time, and we know there are certain things that they
• 1:00:23
  react to. I mean, shit, we have a whole
• 1:00:25
  segment about our pets reacting to the movies.
• 1:00:28
  Yeah. And I like that that carries
• 1:00:29
  over to the Mob Wives and Gremlins I.
• 1:00:31
  Like it too. So they moved to the back of the
• 1:00:37
  movie theater. There they go, actually to the
• 1:00:38
  boiler room. Yeah, well, they're, they're
• 1:00:40
  behind the screen first. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:00:42
  And they start a gas leak, and what they're going to do is
• 1:00:47
  leave a fire burning nearby so that way they can cause a fire
• 1:00:53
  blow up the gremlins. They are chased to the exit.
• 1:00:57
  Billy blocks the door and the theater explodes.
• 1:01:00
  But Stripe got out before the door was blocked.
• 1:01:03
  So he is in the department store across the street.
• 1:01:05
  Yeah, while all that was going on, he saw a neon sign saying
• 1:01:07
  candy. So he's like, I'm going for
• 1:01:08
  candy. They follow him to stop him from
• 1:01:12
  getting to water and they get into this department store.
• 1:01:15
  Billy is going to go look for Stripe.
• 1:01:17
  Kate and Gizmo are going to go look for light.
• 1:01:20
  And this was driving me crazy because there were skylights in
• 1:01:24
  this building and I could not for the life of me remember the
• 1:01:28
  word skylight. I kept wanting to write sunroof
• 1:01:32
  that's for cars and it was extra upset because I know that your
• 1:01:35
  parents house has multiple skylights.
• 1:01:37
  You've struggled with this the entire time I've known you like
• 1:01:39
  every time you like talk about that, that our house like it's
• 1:01:43
  like what does that fuck mean? Window your roof?
• 1:01:47
  What's? This window on the roof.
• 1:01:49
  Explain it. What is that?
• 1:01:53
  It's like in Blood, Blood Rage when you know, like he has like
• 1:01:57
  the gun or something. What is that?
• 1:02:00
  Anyway, there's a stripe is playing both offense and defense
• 1:02:06
  is maybe a lot smarter than Billy.
• 1:02:09
  Yeah, I mean, he comes down with a chainsaw.
• 1:02:11
  Yeah. I mean, that's a pretty good
• 1:02:14
  game plan right there. It worked really well in Texas
• 1:02:16
  Chainsaw Massacre. I like these little bits of
• 1:02:19
  gizmo driving around in a tiny little.
• 1:02:21
  Car. He's doing some Recon.
• 1:02:22
  He's trying to figure out like where the best way to get to
• 1:02:24
  lighting is, and then he gets his car and he gets to have his
• 1:02:28
  driving racing moment. He runs over a little Barney's
• 1:02:31
  paw, though. Oops.
• 1:02:35
  Listen, things could have been a lot worse for Barney in this
• 1:02:38
  movie. That's true.
• 1:02:39
  That's that's very true. Like, and also it's a toy car
• 1:02:44
  that would be like if my little remote controlled dinosaur out
• 1:02:47
  there ran over Talia's Paul. Like she would be annoyed and
• 1:02:50
  I'd be like, but you're OK. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:02:53
  That's fair. That's fair.
• 1:02:53
  It's just like I don't like to see it.
• 1:02:56
  Kate turns on the lights. Stripe is out the fountain, but
• 1:03:00
  Barney and Gizmo, they had to ward where everything's going
• 1:03:04
  down. Gizmo opens the blinds and
• 1:03:06
  Stripe melts. Yeah they they catch him cuz he
• 1:03:10
  launched himself into the fountain so he was bubbling up
• 1:03:12
  but they burn him just in time. Also the dad shows up.
• 1:03:16
  Yeah, he's just there, huh? Like why is he even there?
• 1:03:19
  Why did he stop there? He cuz he went to go pick up
• 1:03:22
  Barney and Barney like since. This oh went there right, right,
• 1:03:26
  right. OK.
• 1:03:29
  So they get Gizmo wrapped up so that way they can take him home
• 1:03:33
  later. The news is reporting mass
• 1:03:35
  hysteria in the town. And they're everybody's just
• 1:03:39
  like at the Peltzers, enjoying Christmas, watching this news,
• 1:03:43
  figuring out, you know, where we go from here.
• 1:03:47
  And it turns out where we go from here is the shop owner
• 1:03:49
  taking Gizmo. Back.
• 1:03:50
  Yeah, he's just arrives back at their house.
• 1:03:51
  He's like, I will let you have him all the way back when you're
• 1:03:55
  ready. Like you guys did.
• 1:03:57
  This you did the three things you weren't supposed to do.
• 1:04:00
  You did all three of them, like you guys do not have what it
• 1:04:05
  takes to be the owner of this little guy.
• 1:04:07
  Like none of these people, none of these people could convince
• 1:04:11
  Commie to bring back Shenron. No, they don't.
• 1:04:13
  They're not. They're not.
• 1:04:14
  Lose faith and humanity with this right here.
• 1:04:17
  Absolutely. But Gizmo does want to say
• 1:04:20
  goodbye to Billy. He does say he's like, Gizmo
• 1:04:24
  will be ready for you when you are ready.
• 1:04:26
  Yeah. And then Gizmo just whispers in
• 1:04:29
  the shop owner's here and he's like, he says goodbye.
• 1:04:34
  And then the dad offers him a smokeless ashtray as a gift.
• 1:04:37
  Yeah, but he already bought 1 because he, I guess,
• 1:04:40
  successfully sold it to the guy at the gas station.
• 1:04:43
  Here's the thing though, is that the shop owner smokes a pipe so
• 1:04:49
  I know ashtray. Not necessarily it's useful.
• 1:04:52
  Maybe he likes both. Maybe like, yeah, all forms of
• 1:04:56
  tobacco, he smokes them. But we also do just know that
• 1:04:59
  Randall Randall Peltzer is canonically not considerate with
• 1:05:03
  his gifts. True, that thing's also going to
• 1:05:05
  bust after a couple years. 100% yeah, but the shop owner
• 1:05:07
  recognizes that it's the thought that counts, yeah.
• 1:05:11
  Yeah, so he walks off in the distance and that's how the
• 1:05:15
  movie ends. All right, so I'm.
• 1:05:19
  Keeping mine at 9:00. I I agree, I think this is such
• 1:05:22
  a solid and fun Christmas movie. It's got a little bit of that
• 1:05:26
  80s like shine to it, which is to say there's like some parts
• 1:05:30
  that maybe could be cut down a little bit from a Jade
• 1:05:33
  perspective, but I have fun with it.
• 1:05:37
  I do too. It's a classic for a reason.
• 1:05:42
  OK, OK. Oh yeah, I have to read stuff,
• 1:05:46
  don't I? Yes, you do.
• 1:05:47
  But first we got to talk about Talia.
• 1:05:50
  Yes, we do. What did Talia think of this?
• 1:05:52
  I will say as soon as we first see the Mogwai, Talia goes.
• 1:05:57
  Yeah, I think she, I think she sees him as cats.
• 1:06:03
  Yes. And I will say it fully, Talia
• 1:06:07
  has taken ownership of Cordelia. We have a little chaos gremlin
• 1:06:11
  here running around right now, and Talia has been very good
• 1:06:13
  with her. She's been trying to protect.
• 1:06:15
  Her, she's been, she's honestly been kind of a helicopter parent
• 1:06:18
  over her. She really has, yes.
• 1:06:20
  So I think she would have. She would have appreciated the.
• 1:06:23
  Whole thing here. The Barney and his MO dynamic.
• 1:06:26
  Yeah, yeah. So I think she, I think she
• 1:06:28
  gives us a nine also. Yeah, I think she would have
• 1:06:31
  given it a 10 until she heard that they're initially planning
• 1:06:34
  to kill Bernie and that's an automatic point off.
• 1:06:37
  Even if you were even thinking about it, that's.
• 1:06:39
  A point like how dare she's Steven Spielberg.
• 1:06:41
  She's not scared of you. OK?
• 1:06:44
  Zoe's ultimate warrior. Stripe.
• 1:06:49
  Do we think it's Stripe? I mean.
• 1:06:52
  I guess there is the whole element of being so hungry that
• 1:06:55
  it destroys a town. Dude no, I mean he like tricked
• 1:06:58
  Billy successfully into feeding him by like fucking with the
• 1:07:03
  time. You know, like the clock.
• 1:07:05
  I you know what, actually, Because see, Zoe, if she ever
• 1:07:08
  figured out that she could change the clock, she would
• 1:07:11
  definitely do that. Yeah.
• 1:07:12
  Yeah, and it would work. I hope she didn't get ideas from
• 1:07:16
  this movie. She might have gotten ideas.
• 1:07:19
  She definitely, she got ideas. She sees herself as Stripe for
• 1:07:22
  sure. Who do you see yourself as?
• 1:07:24
  That is to say, who did you relate to?
• 1:07:26
  Man, who did I relate to? I I related to Billy and the
• 1:07:37
  fact that he's working with his dog as it is right now.
• 1:07:40
  I'm working with my dog at home all the time.
• 1:07:42
  So you know, like it's a really good dynamic.
• 1:07:46
  If you can work with your dog I 100% recommend it cuz it's a lot
• 1:07:50
  of fun. Yeah.
• 1:07:56
  Yes, I relate to Kate cuz for a long time I had a really hard
• 1:07:59
  time with Christmas. Yeah, I've come around on it
• 1:08:02
  mostly cuz it's your favorite holiday and I really wanted to,
• 1:08:06
  I wanted to not have it be such a hard time for me and I wanted
• 1:08:10
  to continue being a good time for you.
• 1:08:12
  Well, I hope it has become a good time for.
• 1:08:14
  You it has. It has.
• 1:08:16
  Yeah, we got fun cheesy Christmas movies.
• 1:08:18
  We can have fun horror Christmas movies.
• 1:08:21
  We got a lot. It's a great time.
• 1:08:22
  We've got treats we're gonna be making.
• 1:08:25
  Yeah. All kinds of good stuff is
• 1:08:27
  happening. OK, cool.
• 1:08:28
  That's fitting. OK, and then dream sequel.
• 1:08:33
  Boy. I wanna see you.
• 1:08:36
  I wanna see you, Gizmo making his way back to Billy making.
• 1:08:39
  His way back down. You know how that song goes.
• 1:08:44
  That's not how that goes. You don't know how that song
• 1:08:46
  goes. Making my way back down, walking
• 1:08:49
  around. That's how I those are the
• 1:08:54
  words, right? Oh, making my way back down.
• 1:08:58
  Making my way downtown, walking fast, face is fast and I'm
• 1:09:02
  homebound. I thought I had.
• 1:09:05
  It you didn't, you were so confidently incorrect.
• 1:09:08
  Well, that's Gizmo's version. That's the Gizmo version.
• 1:09:11
  OK, Yeah. I would like to see Gizmo, like,
• 1:09:14
  fun his way back to the family. There is Gizmo in the sequel.
• 1:09:20
  I feel like you gotta have Gizmo back, right?
• 1:09:22
  I don't know and I don't really want to look it up because I
• 1:09:24
  don't want it to be ruined for him.
• 1:09:26
  Yeah, yeah, that's the only thing that I know.
• 1:09:28
  Spoilers I'm glad to hover the spoilers from that key and Peele
• 1:09:31
  skin. Yeah, I was about to say the
• 1:09:31
  exact same thing. Yeah, like we just watched that
• 1:09:33
  episode and then or it ends with the same all of this stuff
• 1:09:36
  actually happens. In the movie.
• 1:09:38
  Which is a good selling point for the movie right now.
• 1:09:41
  Honestly, yeah. OK, so yeah, he finds his way
• 1:09:45
  back to the family there. What happens?
• 1:09:51
  I don't know, I'm picturing like a homeward bound situation which
• 1:09:53
  makes me sad but oh dude. Gizmo on It's just a movie of
• 1:09:57
  Gizmo on his way back to the house and like, it's just his
• 1:10:01
  adventure. Like, you know, he like hitches
• 1:10:03
  a ride off of something. He befriends another dog that
• 1:10:07
  helps him get there. Yeah.
• 1:10:08
  Yeah, you know, and stuff like. That do we have an actual
• 1:10:11
  crossover with Homeward Bound? Yes.
• 1:10:14
  OK, good. And.
• 1:10:15
  This time, Dick Miller does have a magic shop.
• 1:10:18
  No, I was gonna say this time Dick Miller is one of the
• 1:10:20
  animals he interacts with. Dick Miller is a Mogwai.
• 1:10:24
  Except instead of doing like a voice over, he's like, dressed.
• 1:10:28
  He's Shawn Gun. He's yeah, no, I wanted him like
• 1:10:31
  in like an actual suit, like a giant size Mogwai and all of
• 1:10:34
  them are so tiny and but it's still his face.
• 1:10:38
  Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah, OK.
• 1:10:41
  What would Dom do? Oh my God, what would Don do?
• 1:10:45
  Well, I think he would see this as like he would not have a name
• 1:10:48
  for it until a few years after Christmas because, you know, he
• 1:10:54
  doesn't name his children. No, he names his children the
• 1:10:57
  mother of his children. Don't name his children that's.
• 1:11:00
  True. That's true, yeah.
• 1:11:01
  He would name him Brian. It would just be named Brian.
• 1:11:06
  And then like, it's just a contest between that Brian and
• 1:11:10
  Brian Junior and Brian O'Connor, like which Brian's the best
• 1:11:16
  Brian, I mean, yeah, a street race for Dom's love.
• 1:11:19
  In like little. And obviously, Gizmo Brian.
• 1:11:23
  Gizmo, Gizmo Brian. Yeah, he's learned the racing.
• 1:11:28
  He's got the little tiny card. That's what I'm going to say.
• 1:11:30
  Yeah, dude, I want it. I want the finale to be at Race
• 1:11:34
  Force. Yes.
• 1:11:37
  Yeah, like Gizmo has to go up against Johnny Tran.
• 1:11:42
  Counterpoint, I want the finale to be at the parking garage in
• 1:11:46
  Tokyo and we just cut. We end with Gizmo Brian doing a
• 1:11:50
  Tokyo Drift. He is the new DK.
• 1:11:54
  Yeah, that's how it goes. This is also in the sequel, by
• 1:11:59
  the way. Yeah, Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:12:02
  OK. Yeah, yeah, Tagline, tagline,
• 1:12:07
  tagline. We have to really come up with
• 1:12:09
  this on the top of our head because they're not editing, so
• 1:12:11
  we can't have as much dead air as we normally do.
• 1:12:13
  OK, well let's see man, I don't fucking know.
• 1:12:29
  Wipe right? Sometimes in life you got to say
• 1:12:37
  mug. Why not?
• 1:12:45
  Oh my God, I I have no option but to say yes to that because I
• 1:12:49
  can't think of anything better. I'm on cough syrup.
• 1:12:54
  Thank you. J Quill?
• 1:12:56
  Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:12:57
  Thank you. J Quill.
• 1:13:01
  J Quill. J Quill.
• 1:13:04
  What's happening to you today? I don't know.
• 1:13:07
  I'm on a lot of medication and that explains me.
• 1:13:10
  I got a contact tie. That's not that's how it works,
• 1:13:14
  right? OK, I've got a review.
• 1:13:19
  OK, I know we're both fans of this movie.
• 1:13:21
  So I found a bad review and this is a one out of 10, which a lot
• 1:13:26
  of times I do try and stray away from these because most of the
• 1:13:28
  time they're just like, this is stupid.
• 1:13:30
  This one kind of made me laugh. I saw this when I was little and
• 1:13:34
  it made me angry then because you can't feed them after
• 1:13:37
  midnight. It's always after midnight.
• 1:13:38
  So you're gonna never feed them. Now I'm watching it years later.
• 1:13:41
  And if they get wet, they multiply.
• 1:13:43
  These things are running in snow.
• 1:13:44
  That was the thing before. Drinking beer.
• 1:13:47
  Then I got to thinking. Their own saliva.
• 1:13:49
  Tear ducts. Tear ducts, not ducks.
• 1:13:51
  Oh my God, they were drinking beer.
• 1:13:53
  What? Tear ducts.
• 1:13:56
  Tear ducts. So like sad ducks, just.
• 1:14:08
  Like blood etcetera would all get them wet.
• 1:14:10
  Wet. Was everyone on when they made
• 1:14:12
  this? Every character's an idiot.
• 1:14:14
  The big socket hanging in front of the fireplace.
• 1:14:16
  Fire hazard as a toy robot in the stocking.
• 1:14:18
  I assume it's for their adult son.
• 1:14:21
  There's a laundry list of issues with it, but this would take so
• 1:14:24
  much time. I'm going to stop now.
• 1:14:25
  Oh boy. These are all very fair points.
• 1:14:27
  These are our I had never even thought.
• 1:14:29
  About SO, which I have to say, This is a movie.
• 1:14:31
  You have to turn your brain off. Yeah, you really do.
• 1:14:34
  It's mandatory. You just gotta go.
• 1:14:36
  Oh, look at the cute little guy. Yeah, and they're just like, I
• 1:14:40
  mean, they introduce logic, but then they just don't even follow
• 1:14:44
  any logic afterwards. This.
• 1:14:46
  Yeah, you know, like, whatever. Yeah, it's a silly movie.
• 1:14:50
  So it's just, it is what it is. If that's the worst you can say
• 1:14:55
  about this movie, then I think it's a good movie.
• 1:14:58
  Yeah, cuz. It's it's a silly little movie,
• 1:15:00
  that's really all it's meant to be, and I'm OK with that.
• 1:15:03
  Yeah, I I am totally fine with it too.
• 1:15:05
  Well, we'll see what other people say.
• 1:15:08
  Yay, listeners say this. We have one review.
• 1:15:11
  It's from Mord Zombie. Who says such a classic.
• 1:15:13
  Also a hot take. More of a Christmas movie than
• 1:15:15
  Die Hard. Great creators.
• 1:15:19
  Wait, that that hit a chord with you I guess.
• 1:15:22
  We had this fight at work. The Die Hard fight.
• 1:15:24
  It's necessary for it to be the office Christmas party because
• 1:15:28
  that's why everybody's gathered there and that's why the
• 1:15:30
  terrorists knew that they could come and make their move.
• 1:15:32
  Yeah, I saw a recent thing like Macaulay Culkin was saying the
• 1:15:36
  Die Hard's not a Christmas movie because the movie would work if
• 1:15:39
  it weren't on Christmas Day. News flash.
• 1:15:41
  Macaulay Culkin. Those movies?
• 1:15:44
  Yeah, you could also be left at home during vacation.
• 1:15:47
  It could be summer vacation, you know?
• 1:15:50
  Yeah. Like that's how most Christmas
• 1:15:53
  movies are. It's they're basically just
• 1:15:55
  romance movies or magic movies. Yeah, that's basically it.
• 1:15:58
  Or a lot of. Times both.
• 1:16:00
  Yeah. OK.
• 1:16:02
  To continue the review, OK, great critters, great effects,
• 1:16:05
  no notes, 11 outs and a must watch at least once a year.
• 1:16:09
  OK. I absolutely agree with that.
• 1:16:11
  I agree with everything you said except for Die Hard.
• 1:16:14
  I mean, no, I he's still saying that Die Hard is a Christmas
• 1:16:17
  movie, just more of 1. I do agree that it's probably
• 1:16:20
  more of a Christmas movie because the Christmas imagery is
• 1:16:22
  more like a thing here and like the whole thing is like a
• 1:16:26
  Christmas present type thing. I don't know, I I feel like it
• 1:16:29
  makes sense. I had a look at one thing real.
• 1:16:32
  Quick if if people even argue that Kremlin Kremlin's gremlins
• 1:16:36
  are like it's not a Christmas movie.
• 1:16:39
  I don't understand that argument one bit.
• 1:16:42
  I was going to see when Die Hard was released since this wasn't
• 1:16:45
  released on Christmas but Die Hard was released in July so it
• 1:16:49
  was OK. Yeah, I mean, like, what are you
• 1:16:51
  going to say? Halloween's on a Halloween movie
• 1:16:53
  because it was released in August.
• 1:16:55
  I mean, we have had upsets about that before.
• 1:16:59
  Yeah, but it's still a Halloween movie because it's set on
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  Halloween. That's just how it goes.
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  People don't make the rules. OK, that's it for reviews.
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  Right there. All right, and funny enough, we
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  actually already know what next week's episode's gonna be
• 1:17:14
  because it's gonna be on New Year's Day.
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  And as of the 16th of this month, New Fears Eve is
• 1:17:20
  streaming on screen box. So we're finally gonna talk
• 1:17:24
  about New Fears Eve. That was done by our friends
• 1:17:27
  over at Blood Men Pictures. I'm in a scene of it.
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  Yeah, yeah. So what movie that was made here
• 1:17:35
  in Kentucky? Yeah, made in Owensboro.
• 1:17:37
  We watched it a while back at the premiere where we saw.
• 1:17:41
  Yeah, there was a premiere in Owensboro.
• 1:17:43
  It was a good time. We're really excited to talk
• 1:17:45
  about it. We got one of the shirts and
• 1:17:47
  name badges from the set hanging on our wall in here, so that's
• 1:17:51
  what we're gonna talk about next week.
• 1:17:52
  Yeah, I'm, I'm really looking forward to it.
• 1:17:54
  It's gonna be a good time. Yeah.
• 1:17:56
  And that's it's on screen box. Yeah, screen box is where it's
• 1:17:58
  streaming. Yeah, and I don't you can you
• 1:18:01
  rent it? No, I think it's an exclusive.
• 1:18:03
  It's an exclusive right now. I think it's an exclusive
• 1:18:05
  because of the way they have it done.
• 1:18:06
  So we're gonna have to get a screen box.
• 1:18:09
  I'm typing a screen box instead of.
• 1:18:11
  Yeah yeah. Yeah, but it that's where you
• 1:18:14
  watch it, then Jesse's looking up if you can rent it right now.
• 1:18:19
  It seems that you can rent it from Google TV or fancy and go
• 1:18:22
  at home. Oh cool, so you know, if you
• 1:18:24
  don't want to subscribe then I guess.
• 1:18:26
  There's an option, yeah, if the Internet is being truthful.
• 1:18:29
  Sometimes it's not, especially here lately where Google's like
• 1:18:32
  hey Google AI has got you bro and it will make up everything.
• 1:18:35
  Yeah, this is a lie. This is something somebody said
• 1:18:38
  on the Internet one time and I have not fat checked it, but I'm
• 1:18:40
  going to present it to you as truth.
• 1:18:42
  Yeah, it's, it's fucking, it sucks now.
• 1:18:45
  So whatever, that's the movie, you know where you can watch it.
• 1:18:48
  So that's what's happening. In the meantime, we're going to
• 1:18:53
  thank our bubbies over on the Patreon.
• 1:18:54
  We have Joe. Santa Trons.
• 1:18:56
  Santa Tron, as is his name this time of year, Amber, Michael,
• 1:19:01
  Tyler, Chad, Johnny, Jason and Lord Zombie.
• 1:19:04
  Thanks guys. We really appreciate you all for
• 1:19:06
  being supporters and this is the final episode of 2025.
• 1:19:10
  And we really appreciate you guys being here with us all year
• 1:19:13
  long because you guys are awesome.
• 1:19:14
  And you guys have kept us going and it's been amazing.
• 1:19:18
  And from the bottom of our hearts, it means a lot to have
• 1:19:20
  you guys around and supporting and it's just really nice.
• 1:19:24
  I I really appreciate each and everyone of you.
• 1:19:26
  Honestly, we keep this going because of you all.
• 1:19:28
  Yeah, we, we really do. Yeah.
• 1:19:31
  And even you that are not patrons.
• 1:19:34
  Yeah, I mean you as in like listeners in general.
• 1:19:36
  Yeah, we want to thank you guys for being here too.
• 1:19:39
  Like it's just been great. And you know, we're looking
• 1:19:41
  forward to 2026 being a fun one again.
• 1:19:44
  Yeah. So if you want to, you can find
• 1:19:49
  us on our Instagram and threads at least.
• 1:19:52
  Favorite scary movie podcast? We have a blue sky at
• 1:19:55
  leastfaithpod. You can e-mail us at
• 1:19:57
  leastfavoritescarymoviegmail.com. And we have a website if you
• 1:20:01
  want to find all of our stuff, like everything, it's there.
• 1:20:04
  What's your latest favorite Scary movie.com.
• 1:20:06
  Yep. So we're gonna peace out for
• 1:20:09
  2025. Yep.
• 1:20:10
  Other than the Patreon. The Patreon, that'll be the
• 1:20:12
  final, final episode. So if you want that, you know
• 1:20:14
  where to go. This is the final three episode.
• 1:20:16
  Yeah, exactly so. Because capitalism is still the
• 1:20:20
  capitalism, still the that guy. All right.
• 1:20:23
  But thanks guys. Until the next year, yeah.