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10-22-26 Hour 2 - Jared Bednar/Nuggets optimisim or pessimism?/Oh, By the Way · Moser, Lombardi and Kane

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  Speaker 4: We are joined as we are every week by the
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  Speaker 4: head coach of the Avs, Jared Bednar. Coach, how are
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  Speaker 4: you doing this morning?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, good.
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  Speaker 5: How are you guys?
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  Speaker 2: Doing good.
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  Speaker 4: You know, going to the road trip, you used words
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  Speaker 4: like slow, sluggish, all these different things. What do you
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  Speaker 4: think contributed to those two games on that roadie?
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  Speaker 5: I don't know. I wish I knew. Yeah, because we're
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  Speaker 5: coming off what I felt like we were starting to
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  Speaker 5: hit our stride a little bit in the way we
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  Speaker 5: were playing. Dallas, Dallas, Pittsburgh, all hard-fought games. Had a
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  Speaker 5: little bit of a tough time putting together a full
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  Speaker 5: 60 minutes in those games, but when we were good,
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  Speaker 5: we were really good. And so I felt like our
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  Speaker 5: team was... We were getting results, but then... Those three games,
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  Speaker 5: we were starting to put the whole package together. Then
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  Speaker 5: we got to Philly. Those were, quite honestly, two of
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  Speaker 5: the worst games I've seen our team play in years
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  Speaker 5: as a group. The first game, we looked really sluggish
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  Speaker 5: and just had an impossible time creating any offense. And then,
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  Speaker 5: you know, then you're, once you lose that one, your,
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  Speaker 5: your job gets infinitely tougher with a team that's, waiting
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  Speaker 5: for you for two days that has really good legs,
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  Speaker 5: fast team, good skating team. And for 40 minutes, they
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  Speaker 5: won all the races to loose pucks, all the touches
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  Speaker 5: on 50-50 pucks. And we were chasing the game the
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  Speaker 5: whole time. And then we came out and had an
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  Speaker 5: incredible third. I liked our third a lot. I think
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  Speaker 5: we had more shots in the third than we had
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  Speaker 5: the first 40 minutes. We had more scoring chances in
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  Speaker 5: the third than we had in the first 40 minutes.
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  Speaker 5: But it was too little, too late.
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  Speaker 2: These Avs have always been the fastest team on the ice,
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  Speaker 2: the most dynamic team on the ice. What do you
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  Speaker 2: say to people who look at this team right now,
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  Speaker 2: this Rossman, and say, well, the Avs have gone old
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  Speaker 2: and slow?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't think that's completely true. We're definitely getting older,
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  Speaker 5: but it's like, The speed of the game and the
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  Speaker 5: way you play, it's not just skating speed. That helps.
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  Speaker 5: We've got some fast players on our team, straight line players.
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  Speaker 5: But it's first thing, winning the first race to pucks,
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  Speaker 5: winning battles on pucks, and then moving the puck quickly
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  Speaker 5: and heading to the right areas of the ice. And
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  Speaker 5: at times this year, when we're doing that, we look
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  Speaker 5: super fast. When you kind of get away from... like
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  Speaker 5: speed and pace of your game is, is more than skating.
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  Speaker 5: It's puck moving. It's detail in your routes. It's competitiveness.
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  Speaker 5: It's playing on the inside. So when you put a
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  Speaker 5: puck up the boards, you're getting the next touch on it.
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  Speaker 5: And if you put it up the boards, the next
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  Speaker 5: guy's getting the next touch on it. There's so much
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  Speaker 5: more to it than just, you know, skating speed. And
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  Speaker 5: so I've seen flashes of it. I've seen periods of it.
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  Speaker 5: I've seen 40 minutes of it, you know, in a
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  Speaker 5: bunch of these games so far this year. But, you know,
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  Speaker 5: that was a little eye-opening that when we didn't have
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  Speaker 5: it and weren't very good, that it took us, you know,
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  Speaker 5: the whole game in Philly really to try and get
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  Speaker 5: something going offensively. And then, you know, Jersey, it took
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  Speaker 5: 40 minutes to get going. Like we were kind of
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  Speaker 5: priding ourselves on, on you know if a team gets
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  Speaker 5: a push and they have a six seven eight minute
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  Speaker 5: push where they're coming at you that we'd be able
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  Speaker 5: to stop it turn it around and get the momentum
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  Speaker 5: moving back in our own direction and and in these
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  Speaker 5: two road games we did not but again it's it's
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  Speaker 5: a long year and we've seen really good things from
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  Speaker 5: our team already um but now we got to get
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  Speaker 5: back on track and get get some of those details
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  Speaker 5: back in place and our competitiveness and our skating. It's
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  Speaker 5: all got to improve from what we just did this weekend.
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  Speaker 3: Don't you talk about speed, but I just, in my mind,
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  Speaker 3: I'm thinking quickness and I'm thinking mental quickness. I don't
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  Speaker 3: know that I've seen in back-to-back games under your tutelage
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  Speaker 3: ever more passes get knocked down or stolen away or,
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  Speaker 3: or whatever the case may be. And that to me
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  Speaker 3: is just guys are overthinking things a little bit, right? They're,
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  Speaker 3: they're not in a flow. So they, they want to
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  Speaker 3: make the play, but you know, it, 0.8 seconds slower
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  Speaker 3: than you normally would be.
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  Speaker 2: That pass is knocked down. It's stolen.
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  Speaker 3: It's whatever the case may be. And we just saw
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  Speaker 3: a lot of that the last two games. So does
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  Speaker 3: the mental aspect go into that too?
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  Speaker 5: For sure. For sure. And in Philly, honestly, it's not
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  Speaker 5: even getting him knocked down. It's just not executing tape
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  Speaker 5: to tape passes. Like that slows you down. It's like
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  Speaker 5: if you can't make a good first pass coming out
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  Speaker 5: of your zone, you're going nowhere, right? And if it's
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  Speaker 5: the second guy making the pass in the neutral zone,
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  Speaker 5: if it's too slow, if we're not moving, if it's mis-executed,
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  Speaker 5: if it's tape to skate instead of tape to tape,
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  Speaker 5: it's all slowing you down. So there was a lot
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  Speaker 5: of that. The execution... and just like not recognizing when
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  Speaker 5: we have an open guy, like we just did not
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  Speaker 5: look mentally sharp in those two games at all, you know?
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  Speaker 5: And then, then when you're sort of chasing it, you
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  Speaker 5: also can get into guys trying to do too much
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  Speaker 5: then like trying to make too much happen instead of
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  Speaker 5: just getting back on your game plan, you know, and,
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  Speaker 5: and keeping it simple. And you might need to just
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  Speaker 5: forecheck for a little bit to swing some, some momentum.
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  Speaker 5: And it was just, it was not good, you know? And,
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  Speaker 5: and so like, For me, there's an onus on the
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  Speaker 5: players to get mentally ready and physically prepared. If a
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  Speaker 5: guy or two is bad, they're just having a bad night.
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  Speaker 5: That's on them. When the whole team is bad, that
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  Speaker 5: has to be on us and me and the staff
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  Speaker 5: and getting them ready. I feel like they had the
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  Speaker 5: information on what they were going to see from the opponent,
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  Speaker 5: but for us, it was a little bit I don't
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  Speaker 5: know where those two games came from. So we dug
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  Speaker 5: into the Philly game pretty good going into Jersey. I
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  Speaker 5: get Jersey's going to come out and jump all over
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  Speaker 5: you because they're waiting on you and you're traveling in
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  Speaker 5: trying to get going on a back-to-back. I'm encouraged by
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  Speaker 5: our third period there. This is going to be a
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  Speaker 5: whole different ballgame with Tampa rolling in our building here
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  Speaker 5: this week.
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  Speaker 4: Head coach of the Avs, Jared Bednar, with us. All
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  Speaker 4: conversations with the coach are brought to you by Mr.
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  Speaker 4: Reuter Plumbing, proudly rooting for Colorado's hockey team. Coach, you
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  Speaker 4: guys have been rolling with 11-7 for a while. Is
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  Speaker 4: that just a byproduct of some guys being out of
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  Speaker 4: the lineup, and will that change here soon?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, hopefully. Yeah, it's all injuries. I mean, LaRue O'Connor, Waugh, right,
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  Speaker 5: all out of the lineup. It's all we have is 11-7.
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  Speaker 5: We can only call up one player, like we're against
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  Speaker 5: the cap. You know, you get three forwards all out
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  Speaker 5: of the lineup. That's how we have to roll until
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  Speaker 5: we get some bodies healthy. OC comes back tomorrow. We'll
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  Speaker 5: discuss our lineup, what kind of changes we want to make,
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  Speaker 5: what we want to do. And, yeah, and Wazzy was
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  Speaker 5: on the ice when we were on the road. Like,
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  Speaker 5: all three guys stayed here. It's just easier to rehab,
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  Speaker 5: get ice, you know, work with Pop or our skating
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  Speaker 5: skills coach and get– get dialed in and get ready
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  Speaker 5: to go. We have practice here this morning. I'll get
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  Speaker 5: some information as to who's going to come on the
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  Speaker 5: ice with us, who's going to be able to participate,
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  Speaker 5: who's close, who's not. And, yeah, but hopefully getting to
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  Speaker 5: 12 and 6 as soon as we can.
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  Speaker 2: Coach, is Nate okay? He didn't look himself the other night.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think he is. I think he is. I
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  Speaker 5: don't know if it was the Dallas and Pittsburgh, you know,
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  Speaker 5: he looked like he was tired, you know, like there's
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  Speaker 5: certain things that I look for. Cause I've had these guys,
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  Speaker 5: like some of these guys for a long time.
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  Speaker 6: Right.
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  Speaker 5: Um, and I don't know why we look so tired
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  Speaker 5: and fatigued. Like we didn't, we, we jumped on a plane,
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  Speaker 5: you know, like we did all the same things like
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  Speaker 5: giving them the rest and recovery time that they needed to,
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  Speaker 5: to be ready to go. But, you know, sometimes it's just,
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  Speaker 5: it's not enough, you know? And, um, Some of the
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  Speaker 5: things that I look for is, first off, when you're
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  Speaker 5: taking off with pucks and you're checking how quick are you,
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  Speaker 5: but more for some of our top guys, it's puck decisions.
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  Speaker 5: When Nate's good, he's skating it, he's counter-flowing it, he's
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  Speaker 5: being patient, looking for the open man, he's not forcing things.
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  Speaker 5: Sometimes when you know you don't have your legs, the
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  Speaker 5: skill guy's Like, we start, like, putting the puck into
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  Speaker 5: the areas of the ice where, you know, they're not
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  Speaker 5: high-percentage plays, so you get lots of turnovers. You know,
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  Speaker 5: a guy comes to check you. You know, we're not
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  Speaker 5: working our way through that. We're just, like, you know,
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  Speaker 5: throwing it to subpar. else and it's, it's covered, you know?
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  Speaker 5: And when we, when I started seeing our team turn
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  Speaker 5: it over and this execute like that, um, you know,
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  Speaker 5: and especially from our top guys, it's usually some form
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  Speaker 5: of fatigue, whether that's mental or physical.
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  Speaker 4: A couple other things here, Coach, just real quick. First
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  Speaker 4: of all, the acquisition I know is a transitional phase.
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  Speaker 4: Dave Haxtell leaves to take the Arizona State job. You
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  Speaker 4: guys get Brett McClain. What do you think about him
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  Speaker 4: in that hire?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah. I mean, he's been great. I think lucky
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  Speaker 5: to be able to, you know, first of all, like
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  Speaker 5: find an experienced guy that's run good power plays at
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  Speaker 5: this time of the year. I think it was just,
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  Speaker 5: you know, the– the sort of wholesale changes in van
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  Speaker 5: last year, new head coach, new GM and, and, um,
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  Speaker 5: you know, presidents and, you know, all that. And there's
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  Speaker 5: lots of change and he gets like bumped out of there. Um,
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  Speaker 5: but he ran a successful Minnesota power play for years.
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  Speaker 5: And then again, in Vancouver, it was very good with
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  Speaker 5: and without Quinn Hughes. Um, and, and, you know, like our,
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  Speaker 5: our power play responded right away, uh, You know, against Pitt,
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  Speaker 5: we get two nice goals, and I've liked some of
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  Speaker 5: the scoring chances that we created. Scored one in Philly
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  Speaker 5: at the very end of a power play. You know,
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  Speaker 5: going back to the energy side of it, like two
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  Speaker 5: power plays in Philly, like we're a team that usually
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  Speaker 5: because of our competitiveness and just like our overall game,
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  Speaker 5: we tend to draw more. a lot of power plays
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  Speaker 5: and it was two and only one in New Jersey. Right.
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  Speaker 5: So it kind of speaks to a little bit about
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  Speaker 5: what our game was like five on five.
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  Speaker 2: That's a telltale sign.
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  Speaker 7: Is it not?
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  Speaker 3: And I know you work on the power play and
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  Speaker 3: practice every single day, but if you're not getting the
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  Speaker 3: opportunities in a game, it doesn't, it's not nearly the same,
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  Speaker 3: but if you aren't moving your legs, you're not going
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  Speaker 3: to draw any stick fouls in this kind of, it just,
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  Speaker 3: it sort of perpetuates.
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  Speaker 7: Does it not?
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  Speaker 5: For sure. You have to possess the puck. You've got
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  Speaker 5: to have enough ozone time. You've got to challenge guys
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  Speaker 5: into dangerous areas of the ice, whether that's on the rush,
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  Speaker 5: getting inside on a guy where you've got to take
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  Speaker 5: a penalty. They're not going to take a penalty on
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  Speaker 5: you if you're just going to stand around on the perimeter, right?
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  Speaker 5: It's getting into the scoring areas, right? And that's what
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  Speaker 5: we didn't do in Philly. A lot of one-and-dones in
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  Speaker 5: the offensive zone. Someone comes to check player A, throw
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  Speaker 5: it away. Throw it someplace where we're not there yet.
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  Speaker 5: We're losing a lot of those races into those areas,
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  Speaker 5: and they're just taking off. You're not going to create
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  Speaker 5: power plays like that. Just look at the one power
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  Speaker 5: play in.
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  Speaker 8: Jersey.
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  Speaker 5: It's low to high, shoot it, guys crash in the net,
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  Speaker 5: retrieve at a good corner cycle, then Landy gets it
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  Speaker 5: up top and he just drives the middle of the ice.
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  Speaker 5: The winger knew, the defenseman knew that if he didn't
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  Speaker 5: do something against him there, he was going to get
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  Speaker 5: a free tip, rebound, whatever it was. He gets the chance,
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  Speaker 5: and he holds him down on the rebound, and the
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  Speaker 5: way we go on the power play. You've got to
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  Speaker 5: be doing that consistently to draw a handful of power
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  Speaker 5: plays a game, and we just weren't.
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  Speaker 2: I know it's early, but should we be surprised that
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  Speaker 2: Leckie leads the team in goals?
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  Speaker 5: Not for me. Not for me. I mean, it's a
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  Speaker 5: guy that scored 30 for us, and, you know, he just...
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  Speaker 5: If you're looking at anyone on our team that's sort
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  Speaker 5: of doing... what I just talked about, getting to the
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  Speaker 5: interior of the ice and hanging around there and being
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  Speaker 5: hard to play against there. He's a guy on our
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  Speaker 5: team that if he's not the top, he's the top
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  Speaker 5: two of being able to do that and having that
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  Speaker 5: as a consistent part of his identity in the game.
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  Speaker 5: And that's where the goals are getting scored. It's a
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  Speaker 5: good lesson, really, for all of our guys. You want
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  Speaker 5: to score and you want to create offense. That's where
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  Speaker 5: you got to go.
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  Speaker 2: Get dirty.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but I love guys that play bigger than they are,
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  Speaker 3: and he plays 10 feet taller than he is.
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  Speaker 2: I love that stuff.
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  Speaker 5: Every day, all day, he does.
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  Speaker 6: Coach, last thing for you.
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  Speaker 2: T.J.
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  Speaker 4: Hughes, the rookie, got two goals in consecutive games, two
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  Speaker 4: in his last three.
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  Speaker 6: Does it feel like it's starting to click for him?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah. Could add another one. Jersey, power play. They're
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  Speaker 5: a decent-looking offensive zone. They come out of the zone
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  Speaker 5: in the third period and go in on them. like
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  Speaker 5: a power play breakout and rush attack. And I think
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  Speaker 5: it was Naz. It was Nate to Naz on the
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  Speaker 5: wall and then he slipped it into TJ. He was
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  Speaker 5: walking right down Main Street in that game late and
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  Speaker 5: he misses the opportunity. But he's starting to get more
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  Speaker 5: scoring chances. You know, he's starting to find his shot
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  Speaker 5: a little bit, you know, not just deferring on the pass.
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  Speaker 5: He's a great puck mover, great playmaker, right? But He
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  Speaker 5: also scored a bunch of goals in college. So getting
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  Speaker 5: into those areas and making sure he's taking his shots,
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  Speaker 5: I think is part of it. But he was a
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  Speaker 5: little bit of a bright spot when it came to
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  Speaker 5: playmaking and guys executing on our team over the last
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  Speaker 5: two games. The other one I'll say too is our goaltending.
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  Speaker 5: We lost both games, but we were not good. And
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  Speaker 5: the goalies gave us a chance in both games. If
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  Speaker 5: you look at the jersey game, it's 2-1. You know,
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  Speaker 5: we come out first shift of the third period just going, boys,
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  Speaker 5: let's just go steal this one. We have not been good.
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  Speaker 5: Let's get one period. Let's just do the right thing.
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  Speaker 5: So even detail on what we wanted to do, first shift,
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  Speaker 5: Nate's line comes out, they get three or four shots,
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  Speaker 5: all alone net front, and goalie's out of the net,
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  Speaker 5: Cale's bringing it, and Landy's tied up with the goalie,
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  Speaker 5: and it's like sitting there right on the goal line.
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  Speaker 5: We couldn't get it across the line. And then, unfortunately,
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  Speaker 5: we made a rush mistake, and they stretched the lead
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  Speaker 5: to 3-1. But we were coming that whole period, and
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  Speaker 5: that's partly because White gave us a chance for 40
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  Speaker 5: minutes to kind of hang around in that game and
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  Speaker 5: have some hope.
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  Speaker 4: Head coach of the Avs, Jared Bednar, joins us every
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  Speaker 4: single week. Coach, always appreciate the time. We'll talk to
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  Speaker 4: you next week.
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  Speaker 5: All right, thanks, fellas. Bye.
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  Speaker 4: Jared Bednar usually joins us on Wednesdays today, and a
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  Speaker 4: little travel change joins us on Thursday.
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  Speaker 2: Vic, you notice what he didn't do in that entire discussion?
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  Speaker 2: He didn't make any excuses. He didn't run from any.
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  Speaker 7: No.
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  Speaker 2: He doesn't run from anything. Ask him anything. He doesn't
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  Speaker 2: run from it. I was fond of the answer about,
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  Speaker 2: you know, everybody, the perception is this team is slow
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  Speaker 2: and old. And he said, we still have fast skaters.
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  Speaker 2: We're just not playing fast right now.
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  Speaker 5: That's correct.
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  Speaker 2: The tape-to-tape passes aren't connecting like they normally do. That
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  Speaker 2: is correct.
• 16:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we all know there's fast and then there's game
• 16:58
  Speaker 4: speed stuff. And I think that's where he's even more
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: confident with guys on this roster, the veterans that they have.
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: So if you missed any of that, it'll be on
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: the podcast shortly. We'll talk to Jeff Legwald at nine o'clock.
• 17:08
  Speaker 6: Stick around.
• 17:09
  Speaker 5: All right.
• 17:09
  Speaker 6: Got another keyword for your.
• 17:11
  Speaker 4: Chance to win tickets, lower level tickets to the Nuggets
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: home opener.
• 17:16
  Speaker 6: The keyword for this hour is bourbon. One of my
• 17:21
  Speaker 6: favorites bourbon.
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: So text that in your first and last name to 303-504-0925.
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: I'm sure they're referencing bourbon street.
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: So, My buddy, Sean Hart.
• 17:30
  Speaker 6: Can I just wait one second?
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: How long is this read? Just let me know how long.
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: I'm just letting people know, if you text Bourbon your
• 17:36
  Speaker 4: first and last name, you qualify to enter. Each show
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: has a pair of tickets for the lower level to
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: the home opener. It also gets you in the running
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: for those Section 104 row AA seats, the ones right
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: behind the visiting bench that we've never given away before.
• 17:48
  Speaker 5: Oh, yeah.
• 17:49
  Speaker 6: That gets unlimited food and drinks.
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: Oh.
• 17:52
  Speaker 6: Yeah, those tickets.
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: When are we going to be invited back to those
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: special seats?
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 17:57
  Speaker 6: Moj, get on your ass, people. Let us sit while
• 17:59
  Speaker 6: you do the game.
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: Here's what I'll say.
• 18:01
  Speaker 6: You do the game, and I get a pound on
• 18:02
  Speaker 6: the glass again.
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: I like that. When they wanted to sell those seats,
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: they were quick to call us to sit in those seats.
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: Do you remember that?
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: No.
• 18:10
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: When are we going to get those seats again? The
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: answer is never.
• 18:14
  Speaker 5: Why?
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: Because they have people who want those seats. Well, I
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: will pay for those seats. I want those seats.
• 18:20
  Speaker 6: Well, I want them. All right.
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: Anyway, back to the bourbon. Bourbon's the key word.
• 18:25
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: My buddy, Sean Hart, high school buddy of mine, he's
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: gotten all into this whiskey bourbon craze, right? So he
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: invites us to his house for what I thought was
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: a barbecue. And it turned out to be a testing
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: of whiskeys and bourbons and scotches and He sat there
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: with all these snacks and all these little, you know, glasses.
• 18:47
  Speaker 6: So he was doing like the full deal.
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: Like the full meal deal. I'm like, what is going
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: on here? And he made us like rinse our mouths
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: out after we, I'm like, come on. But it's that
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: night I learned that bourbon is only from Kentucky.
• 18:59
  Speaker 5: Correct.
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: It's only from Kentucky. I think that's 51% corn is
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: what bourbon has to be.
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: Scotch is only from that other part of the world.
• 19:07
  Speaker 5: Scotland.
• 19:07
  Speaker 9: Correct.
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: Scotland.
• 19:09
  Speaker 7: Scott.
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: And whiskey.
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: Where's whiskey from? Whiskey can be from anywhere. It can
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: be Japanese. It can be Irish. It can be American.
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: It can be whatever.
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: So he's giving me the history of all this stuff.
• 19:18
  Speaker 6: It sounds like you learned something.
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: I was drunk, too, because he just kept feeding us
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: this stuff. My wife's best friend's dad has a timeshare
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: in Mexico.
• 19:31
  Speaker 6: Then he goes to all the time.
• 19:32
  Speaker 8: You won't get out of your time.
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: Don't sue me. Don't sue me.
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: Kenneth in Minnesota. It's one of them that he actually
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: enjoys having. But he always comes back with tequila. So
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: if I ever go to his house, he makes me
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: do a tequila tasting.
• 19:49
  Speaker 6: Much the same thing.
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: Not as, as exuberant as having snacks and stuff, but the,
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: he gets so into it. He grabs a bottle off
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: the wall. It's like, yeah, This one is called Cabo Wabo.
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: It's about a $ 45 price point.
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 20:03
  Speaker 6: My friends are doing all that stuff.
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: It's like, okay. I love it though.
• 20:07
  Speaker 6: It's great.
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: You can only drink this one, but then you have
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: to eat the chocolate to see, to differentiate the taste.
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: And I guess I'm taste blind. Like I am colorblind.
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: So I'm like, dude, it's all tastes the same to me.
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: And it's all hurting my esophagus. Okay. So I don't
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: know the difference.
• 20:21
  Speaker 6: I got to tell you guys before we get into
• 20:23
  Speaker 6: other sports stuff right now.
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: Bar none.
• 20:26
  Speaker 6: My favorite commercial on this station.
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: And I know a lot of people are annoyed with
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: political commercials and stuff like that.
• 20:31
  Speaker 6: It's that time of year. I don't know what to
• 20:32
  Speaker 6: tell you. My favorite commercial is our boy from the
• 20:36
  Speaker 6: timeshare one.
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: Oh, he's all over the place. By the way, he
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: was in, in Texas too. I heard loud and clear.
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 20:41
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: He runs the world.
• 20:42
  Speaker 6: It's this one right here.
• 20:45
  Speaker 8: I hate lawyers. I never wanted to be a lawyer.
• 20:50
  Speaker 8: You idiots forced me.
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: Into talking about being a lawyer.
• 20:54
  Speaker 6: Like that one is by far my favorite. That guy rules.
• 21:00
  Speaker 6: I want that guy on the show.
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: Can that.
• 21:02
  Speaker 6: You know what?
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: Hey, Nelly.
• 21:05
  Speaker 6: I know we try and get different voices for our emojis.
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: Dude, get that guy.
• 21:09
  Speaker 6: If he voices our emojis, I will die.
• 21:13
  Speaker 5: Home run.
• 21:14
  Speaker 6: I will die. Because we got our British... Traffic Guy,
• 21:17
  Speaker 6: what's his name?
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: Vic D. Vic D. Vic D.
• 21:20
  Speaker 6: Vic D did it once for us. That was great.
• 21:22
  Speaker 6: If we got Timeshare Guy, oh.
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: What does this guy look like to you when you
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: close your eyes? Timeshare Guy. By the way, do you
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: have Timeshare Guy anywhere? Is he laying around somewhere? 5'8, 280.
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: You're talking about Chuck McDowell.
• 21:37
  Speaker 6: Chuck McDowell.
• 21:38
  Speaker 5: Hang on.
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: I bet you he's in Wikipedia or something. He's got
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: to be. He's world renowned.
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: He's Timeshare Guy. Wesley Financial Group, Chuck McDowell.
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: That's exactly what I was picturing. Let me see the
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: timeshare guy. Yeah, that's timeshare guy. Hang on, hang on.
• 22:00
  Speaker 6: How about this, though?
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: Did you think he had sleeve tattoos?
• 22:04
  Speaker 5: Whoa!
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: I didn't think that.
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: Did you think Chuck had sleeve tattoos?
• 22:10
  Speaker 6: Oh, this guy rules.
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: I'm Chuck McDowell. You know what? Here's what I want.
• 22:18
  Speaker 6: Wait a minute.
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: I want a timeshare guy in my huddle when things
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: are going tough.
• 22:21
  Speaker 6: Not only is Chuck sleeve tattoos, he's 2 Chainz?
• 22:26
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: That's Chucky 2 Chainz? Chucky 2 Chainz. He'll get you
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: out of your timeshare.
• 22:34
  Speaker 6: Here, boy. All right, go ahead. Go ahead, Nelly.
• 22:39
  Speaker 10: I'm Chuck McDowell, the timeshare cancellation guy and founder of
• 22:43
  Speaker 10: Wesley Financial Group. And I want to set the record straight.
• 22:46
  Speaker 10: I am not an attorney. I've never wanted to be
• 22:49
  Speaker 10: an attorney. And the truth is, I really don't even
• 22:51
  Speaker 10: like attorneys.
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: That's good enough.
• 22:55
  Speaker 8: And so you make me do this because you idiots
• 22:57
  Speaker 8: bought a timeshare.
• 22:58
  Speaker 6: All right.
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: Anyway, it says, hold on a second here. I got
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: to find out what I've never heard of this team.
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: I don't know what they do or what they play.
• 23:08
  Speaker 6: How they are involved.
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: It says here that that guy, he.
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: Is now an owner of the Nashville Cats.
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: What is this, a minor league hockey team?
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: It looks like a football team. They're an arena league
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: football team located in Nashville.
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: You see him in the pregame. Come on now.
• 23:31
  Speaker 8: It's third down.
• 23:32
  Speaker 6: Get on your feet.
• 23:33
  Speaker 7: Anyway.
• 23:35
  Speaker 6: Nuggets opened their season tonight.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: It was. They don't exist anymore, maybe.
• 23:38
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: Go ahead.
• 23:39
  Speaker 6: They opened their season tonight.
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: What time do we talk to Jason Kosminski, the voice
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: of the Nuggets? 9.30-ish. 9.30-ish?
• 23:46
  Speaker 6: Okay.
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: I'm surprised he's up that early. I doubt he is.
• 23:49
  Speaker 6: We're probably waking him up.
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: Well, it'll be 10.30 Oklahoma City. You know what? I'm
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: surprised he's up that early.
• 23:54
  Speaker 5: Exactly.
• 23:55
  Speaker 6: Kos has had a long offseason. He can get up
• 23:57
  Speaker 6: the first day of the game. It's fine. But you
• 24:03
  Speaker 6: accused me. of being negative to start the show about
• 24:06
  Speaker 6: the Nuggets. I'm not.
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: I'm just telling you, I think this is, the realistic
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: way to look at it is, we don't have any
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: idea past the top seven what this team has. There
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: is nobody outside of the starting five, Spencer Jones and
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: DeMar DeRozan, that we know anything about.
• 24:23
  Speaker 5: Mm-hmm.
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: Now, you can say most Marvin Bagley. Well, I thought
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: I knew about Jonas Valanciunas. And for some reason, backup
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: centers just haven't worked here. Now, Bagley's a different kind
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: of backup center. He's not some big, brutish, back-to-the-basket rebound guy.
• 24:40
  Speaker 6: He's different.
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: The second unit will look a lot like the first,
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: a lot different than the first unit, I should say,
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: in the way they play, right? So last year, we
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: saw a lot of, hey, let's keep doing what we're
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: doing when Joker's in the game. Well, you can't. You
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: can't do that. Nobody can. The second unit is going
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: to be a lot of pick and roll. It's going
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: to be a lot of ISO with DeMar DeRozan. If
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: DeMar DeRozan isn't getting ISO, then they're going to go
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: Tyus Jones and Marvin Bagley pick and roll. That's what
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: they're going to do. I'm eager to find out what
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: the rotation looks like tonight because I don't know if
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: Spencer Jones will play. He's still listed as questionable with
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: the hamstring. Do you really want to push it this early?
• 25:18
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: No.
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: So does that mean Cam Whitmore gets more minutes? Could be.
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: And I'm hoping a guy like Cam Whitmore ends up
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: being that guy you're looking for. What did you say
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: you wanted today?
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: You need somebody to pop. I need someone just to
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: be able to, and not like crazy pop. I'm talking
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: about somebody you can say, you know what, this guy
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: can play and we can rely on him. So you
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: know what you've got because, again, I look at all
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: these different dudes.
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: I mean, what about, what's the story with Hopkins? What's
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: his story? He's a two-way player. He probably won't play
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: much right now unless something happens.
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: I'm looking for anybody. I don't even know what Deron
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: Holmes can do. I don't know what he can't do,
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: but I don't know what.
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: He can do. I don't know any of the answers
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: to these questions.
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: Okay, here's my way of thinking towards what David Adelman,
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: I think, should be doing, especially early in the year.
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: I understand the job of the head coach is to
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: win as many games as possible. I think you need
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: to allow some of these guys that are your depth
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: pieces to play through mistakes and not get trigger happy
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: on going back to your starters if they struggle. Like Holmes,
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: I think, is a great example, Moj. You made a
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: gigantic investment that day that you drafted him to move up.
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: You gave away assets that hinder you today to go
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: up and get to Ron Holmes. Unfortunately, he tears his
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: Achilles the first game of his summer league career. The
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: next year he doesn't play all that much. I cannot
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: have Deron Holmes being in the category of where Zeke
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: Najee is right now, where he's a guy on your
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: bench and you're like, I don't know if he can
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: play or not. And he plays sometimes, but just a
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: few minutes, and then he'll make a mistake and he
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: gets pulled off the floor.
• 26:58
  Speaker 6: You need to let guys play through mistakes.
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: This is going to be Zeke Najee's seventh season with
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: the Denver Nuggets.
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: And I don't know who he is. He's not going
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: to be in the rotation. Then why is he here, man?
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: Because you're committed to him by eight and a half million.
• 27:13
  Speaker 6: I know you're committed to him.
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: That was a rhetorical question. It was a rhetorical question.
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: The last thing is I think I just made it
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: look too easy. Give me, guys, I'm going to ask you,
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: and then I'll answer. Paint for me the scenario in
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: which the Denver Nuggets win the season opener at OKC tonight.
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: What has to happen for them to win this game?
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: It's probably, I don't think probably, I think it's the
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: greatest challenge of any opening night for any team in
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: the NBA. To take on a team of OKC's depth
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: at their place after they already have a game under
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: their belts. They've already played one. And now they get
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: to come home to that hostile crowd. And it is
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: crazy there. It's one of the loudest crowds in the NBA.
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: And they hate the Nuggets. They hate Joker.
• 27:57
  Speaker 5: Oh, yeah, they do.
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: They hate him. You're going to hear that chant early tonight.
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: So you tell me, what do the Nuggets do to
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: win this game tonight?
• 28:04
  Speaker 5: Vic.
• 28:05
  Speaker 6: I think hit their open threes.
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: That's makes.
• 28:08
  Speaker 5: Boom.
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: How about makes? Makes and makes. But you know what?
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: I'll take you back to a year ago. A year
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: ago against Golden State, Aaron Gordon hit 10 open threes.
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: He had 10 threes in that game. He had 50 points.
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: Nuggets lost.
• 28:22
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 28:24
  Speaker 6: Yeah, you need other stuff, too.
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 28:25
  Speaker 6: But I think.
• 28:27
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: Let me write this down. Hold on. Let me write
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: this down. I'm going to write this down and use this.
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: So hit open three. So how many threes do you think?
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: You can write this down. Hell, record this.
• 28:35
  Speaker 6: I honestly, you know what?
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: Did you see Minnesota shoot threes last night, by the way,
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: against Miami? They couldn't miss.
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but that's not the Nuggets. And I know we
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: always talk about this. The Nuggets can get buckets inside.
• 28:45
  Speaker 6: Like, guess what?
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: Your best player off the bench is not a three-point shooter.
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: DeRozan's a mid-range guy, and I'm fine with that, as
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: long as you do that consistently. What I'm saying is,
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: if Joker... Here's a better question. Over under 11 shots
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: for Joker tonight.
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: I would like to think it's over.
• 29:03
  Speaker 6: It's the opening game of the year.
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: I think he's going to come out very aggressively tonight.
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: I think he's going to come out very aggressively.
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: Oklahoma City, one thing they can do is they can score, man.
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: They can put the ball in the bucket.
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: But they also can defend. Yeah, they can.
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: I'm just very, very curious to see what in the
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: heck the Nuggets are going to do defensively.
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: Here's what I think they do. What are they going.
• 29:25
  Speaker 6: To do defensively?
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: I need to get your remark. He said hit open threes.
• 29:28
  Speaker 5: Oh, boy.
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: Way to get creative there.
• 29:30
  Speaker 6: Make shots. You literally said boom after I said it.
• 29:35
  Speaker 5: You're right.
• 29:35
  Speaker 6: Go ahead, your turn.
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: I'd just like to see them defend.
• 29:39
  Speaker 5: You know what? Oh, wow.
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: More creative. Hang on. But, Vic, what I'm talking about
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: here is effort. Effort. Play hard. That's a doozy. I'm
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: sure they haven't thought of that one. Play hard and defend.
• 29:52
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 29:52
  Speaker 7: Okay.
• 29:53
  Speaker 6: Crack a big egg of knowledge over all of us, Vic.
• 29:55
  Speaker 5: Mr.
• 29:55
  Speaker 6: Big Brains. You tell me.
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: Double SGA every single time he has the ball. Do
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: not let him get loose. Every single time he has
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: the ball from the gate. That's unfeasible. Why is that unfeasible?
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: You can say that. It can't last the entire game.
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: Sure it can. Every single time he has the ball.
• 30:09
  Speaker 5: Not a chance.
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: Why not? Because I don't think they'll commit to it. Well,
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: do it. Commit to it. Even if they wanted to,
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: I don't think they would do it. Double him every
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: single time he has the ball. Make him frustrated, make
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: him look away, make him throw the ball. All he's
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: going to do is run into you and draw fouls
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: and go to the line constantly. That would be my
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: first move to win this game.
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: I mean, they averaged 20 points per game at the
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: free throw line last year.
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: That's what they do. There's, you know, unless Alpha Diallo
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: suddenly turns into a world beater, I can guard SGA
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: like no one. There's nobody on earth that can stay
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: in front of Shea Gildress Alexander and hold him to
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: 20 points or less. There's nobody. Nobody on earth, let
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: alone on the Nuggets roster.
• 30:52
  Speaker 6: Nobody can.
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  Speaker 3: If you think that they either will or can defend
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: him the entire game, put two guys on him the
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: entire game.
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  Speaker 2: God bless you. God bless you because I don't think
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: it's possible. Name a defender in the world that can
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: do that to SGA. The best at it is Jade
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: McDaniels in Minnesota. And even he can't keep him to
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: that kind of number.
• 31:10
  Speaker 6: Well, I mean, it's because he's really good.
• 31:15
  Speaker 5: I know.
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. But see, what OKC has done
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: to counter Joker, so they're looking at it this way, saying, OK,
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: how do we stop Joker? They're essentially double-teaming Joker, too.
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: They're doing the same thing, but they're doing it differently.
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: They're putting a small on him to bother him, and
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: then they're basically playing zone around him. That is correct.
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: That's what they're doing. So you can't do that to
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: a periphery player. You can't do that to a perimeter player. No,
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: you cannot. You can't do that. So what you've got
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: to do is double him. You've got to do the
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: same thing. You've got to have someone dogging him the
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: entire game. Dog, dog, dog, dog. Pushing him into double teams.
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: That's what I would do. I would do it from
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: the very get-go.
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: What happens when he passes out of it?
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: It's just a chance you've got to take.
• 31:54
  Speaker 6: I would love.
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: If you want to double Shea, fine. You've got to
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: be sticky with these other guys, though. Case, Moss, and
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: J-Dub on the perimeter. I would look at Chet, and
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: I'd be like, dude, if you can score 40 points,
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: then go ahead.
• 32:08
  Speaker 6: Then you guys win.
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. And I know the other guys
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: can score. I know J-Dub can score. I know they
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: have scorers that if they get open looks, they'll make them.
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: I get it. I would rather them have the shot
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: than to have to live through SGA doing SGA things.
• 32:24
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm going to do? I'm going to
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: look at Caruso's headband as soon as he gets on
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: the floor. And I'm just going to be mad. I'm
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: going to see Dagnos' face.
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: I'm going to be mad. I'm going to see Chet's face.
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: I'm going to be mad. We'll ask Kaz that same
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: question when he joins us. What time is he coming up?
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: 9.20.
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: 9.30. Somewhere in there.
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: Reminder to you guys, the keyword for this hour is bourbon,
• 32:50
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• 32:52
  Speaker 4: Just to recap from Brett and Moj, the keys for
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: the Nuggets tonight, make shots and play hard.
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: No, defend.
• 33:01
  Speaker 5: Defend.
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: So write that down.
• 33:03
  Speaker 4: Vic doesn't get to do this when I said that
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: and he goes, boom, nailed it. And then you get
• 33:08
  Speaker 4: to say, well, that's a very basic point.
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: I'll make sure we get that to Coach Adleman's playbook.
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: I like your key. I love your key.
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  Speaker 3: Something that's a virtual impossible task to perform.
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  Speaker 2: Comb hair, make shots, play hard.
• 33:26
  Speaker 6: Try your best and have fun.
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: And the truth is, I really don't even like it, Ernie. Oh,
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• 34:16
  Speaker 2: Let me start out here.
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: The shot has been fired by the University of Miami.
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: Oh, really? You know what they said? Their president, Joe Echeverria, says, yeah,
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: the ACC's too small for us.
• 34:30
  Speaker 11: Mm-hmm.
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: He said, we did everything we could last year. We
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: maxed out as much money as we could possibly make.
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: In the ACC, and it ain't good enough.
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: He says, Big Ten, SEC, he says, quote, you cannot
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: lock us into a conference. They want to move, and
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: they want to go up. He called his own conference
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: second tier.
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: So what did he say he wanted to do? Get
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: to it. He wants to move to the Big Ten
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: or the ACC. What did he threaten to do? He
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: says he's threatening for the team and the program and
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: the school to go independent. Independent, yeah.
• 35:05
  Speaker 4: This is so stupid. Here's what I don't get. Miami
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: has a cushy spot where they can dominate a terrible
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: conference and get an auto bid into the playoff with
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: a chance to win a natty every year.
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: Have you seen their schedule this year? It's terrible. Everybody
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: wants to knock Notre Dame's schedule. Miami is horrible.
• 35:26
  Speaker 5: Hang on.
• 35:28
  Speaker 6: Why?
• 35:29
  Speaker 4: Hey, you know who really messed up by going to
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: a bigger and better conference?
• 35:35
  Speaker 6: Oklahoma sucks now. Nobody cares about Oklahoma.
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: They could have been in the Big 12 winning 10,
• 35:41
  Speaker 4: 11 games a year, competing for Big 12 titles and
• 35:43
  Speaker 4: making the playoff.
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: Nebraska's the same story, dude. Well, yeah, that was years ago.
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: I know, but if the corner were in the Big 12, bro.
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: I know.
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: Exactly my point.
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: Why would you go away from auto bids to the
• 35:56
  Speaker 4: playoff every year to go 7-5 in the SEC? That
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: team ain't winning 11 games a year in the SEC
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: like they are in the ACC.
• 36:05
  Speaker 6: But they love that money.
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: They love that money.
• 36:09
  Speaker 6: You also get money by having a winning football program.
• 36:12
  Speaker 6: I don't get it.
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: They want to try to go independent.
• 36:17
  Speaker 6: I don't think that helps them either. I really don't.
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: I just, I don't think they have big picture stuff.
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: Watched a lot of NBA last night, and you can
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: say what you want. I know a lot of people
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: don't like the NBA. I can't get enough of it.
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: I watch almost every game. The Golden State Warriors lose
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: to the L.A. Lakers in L.A., and they had the rookie,
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: the 6'9, Yaxo Lindenborg, trying to guard Luka Doncic, and
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: it got heated. It got really heated. I have all
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: kinds of respect now for Lindenborg. He didn't back down.
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: He's talking that noise. He is talking crap to Luka.
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: At one point, he got teed up for talking too
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: much crap, said something, and the refs teed him up.
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: Listen to what Lindenborg, by the way, the Lakers won easily.
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: They destroyed Golden State. Listen to what Lindenborg said after
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: the game about Luka and the state of the NBA.
• 37:06
  Speaker 12: I had a lot of respect for him, you know,
• 37:08
  Speaker 12: just because of just watching. I didn't really watch the
• 37:10
  Speaker 12: NBA much. I just watched highlights, seeing him, you know,
• 37:12
  Speaker 12: kill people all the time. But then being in there firsthand,
• 37:15
  Speaker 12: just watching all the whining and complaining, I lost all respect, man. Like,
• 37:18
  Speaker 12: that was awful. Like, me getting frustrated, it's not about, like,
• 37:24
  Speaker 12: the foul being called. It's about, like, him complaining the
• 37:26
  Speaker 12: entire game. And then you get the foul called. Congratulations, bro.
• 37:29
  Speaker 12: And then you talk to me like you did something great, bro.
• 37:31
  Speaker 12: Come on, dog. That shit's weak, you know. So it
• 37:35
  Speaker 12: kind of, like, it kind of threw me off for
• 37:36
  Speaker 12: a little while because, you know, like I said, I
• 37:38
  Speaker 12: had so much respect for him.
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: I know what you thought he said. He said that's
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: just weak. Okay, got it. Did you think he said something?
• 37:44
  Speaker 6: I thought he said the S-bomb there.
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: Okay, by the way, the guy who asked that question
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: to Lindenborg about the whole Luka incident was our guy,
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: Luka Evans.
• 37:54
  Speaker 5: Evan.
• 37:54
  Speaker 10: Evan.
• 37:55
  Speaker 5: Evan.
• 37:56
  Speaker 7: Evan.
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: Luka's now covering Golden State in San Francisco. Then somebody
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: decided to ask, and maybe Luka asked this question too,
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: to Draymond Green, who is the greatest talker in the league.
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: They asked Draymond about Lindenborg and his back and forth
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: with Luka. Listen to what he had to say.
• 38:12
  Speaker 9: Everybody's going to be like, oh, man, he shouldn't talk
• 38:14
  Speaker 9: to Luka. You should not talk to Luka. And I
• 38:16
  Speaker 9: disagree with that. One thousand percent. You don't talk to somebody.
• 38:22
  Speaker 9: You talk until you can't talk no more. And if
• 38:25
  Speaker 9: you bust your ass, guess what? You play him again
• 38:27
  Speaker 9: three more times and you go back at his ass again.
• 38:30
  Speaker 9: And then you see him the third time and you
• 38:32
  Speaker 9: go back at his ass again. I think in this league,
• 38:34
  Speaker 9: everybody always be like, oh, man, certain guys you got
• 38:36
  Speaker 9: to respect. I ain't come in.
• 38:37
  Speaker 13: This league like that with no respect.
• 38:39
  Speaker 9: You earn respect.
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: You know, everybody's like, oh, man, the rookie learned his lesson.
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: What'd he learn?
• 38:45
  Speaker 9: The next time you see him, go at his ass again.
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: And again.
• 38:50
  Speaker 10: And again.
• 38:51
  Speaker 4: That is, look, I respect it. Draymond, try to say
• 38:59
  Speaker 4: that about LeBron, how about? Do you have some respect
• 39:02
  Speaker 4: for LeBron? When's the last time you said something mean
• 39:04
  Speaker 4: about LeBron?
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: Good point.
• 39:07
  Speaker 6: It's a very good point. Hey, remember this clip from
• 39:10
  Speaker 6: Jim Mora the other day?
• 39:11
  Speaker 13: Kenny hasn't been home in two weeks, so we took
• 39:17
  Speaker 13: Jordan's office, our linebacker coach, and we turned it into
• 39:21
  Speaker 13: a bedroom for Kenny, so he just sleeps there.
• 39:24
  Speaker 4: So we all, or at least I did, I was like, dude,
• 39:26
  Speaker 4: go home to your wife and kids.
• 39:27
  Speaker 6: What are you doing here?
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: Well, kenny mcclendon the new dc for csu responded to
• 39:32
  Speaker 4: that and he said.
• 39:33
  Speaker 7: It's a family affair now um and i think to
• 39:36
  Speaker 7: talk about you talk about the um the professional support
• 39:39
  Speaker 7: system but also personal i'm lucky like um my my
• 39:43
  Speaker 7: wife is sitting there right there drawing helping me draw
• 39:46
  Speaker 7: every single car she's sitting there going through every little
• 39:48
  Speaker 7: thing to make sure we're supported. My daughters are sitting there.
• 39:51
  Speaker 7: They're sleeping in here. They're doing whatever, and that's the
• 39:53
  Speaker 7: piece that I appreciate more than anything is that I'm
• 39:57
  Speaker 7: not in this by myself, whether that's professionally or personally.
• 40:00
  Speaker 7: I got a great support system, and Coach Moore, the
• 40:03
  Speaker 7: rest of the defensive staff, the rest of the coaches,
• 40:04
  Speaker 7: I have an unbelievable, even a better support system at
• 40:07
  Speaker 7: home with my family, and they're doing a great job
• 40:09
  Speaker 7: supporting me in this role for sure.
• 40:11
  Speaker 6: Okay, I had no idea about this. Kenny McClendon's wife
• 40:17
  Speaker 6: is on the payroll.
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: What? Wait, what? What does she do?
• 40:23
  Speaker 4: Assistant D-line coach, pass rush specialist, and director of player
• 40:26
  Speaker 4: development for CSU.
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Are you sure that's not him?
• 40:32
  Speaker 6: His wife is Mickey Grace.
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: I'm confused.
• 40:37
  Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying. I heard Kreckman and Lindahl talking
• 40:39
  Speaker 4: about this yesterday. His wife works there.
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: Oh, that's right. She's on the staff. That's why they're
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: like breaking down tape. Yes.
• 40:50
  Speaker 6: So that makes it a little bit different. I said,
• 40:52
  Speaker 6: go home to your wife and kids.
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: Guess what? He's with her every day.
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: So that changes my perspective entirely. How crazy is that though?
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: Well, I certainly hope that it works.
• 41:04
  Speaker 6: She made history.
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: In 2022 as the first woman to serve in an
• 41:08
  Speaker 4: on-field FBS coaching role.
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: She was at UConn.
• 41:11
  Speaker 9: Yes.
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: Wow. I hope it works.
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: Because here's the last four games for them. They've given
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: up 41, 59, 56, and then the big doozy, 66
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: to good old Texas State.
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: How about that?
• 41:28
  Speaker 6: Oh, by the way, the Rams are in one right now.
• 41:32
  Speaker 6: They're 2-4 to start the year. They have guys.
• 41:36
  Speaker 4: I mean, have you seen the injuries for them and
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: how they're piling up? Like Devontae Adams after the year,
• 41:40
  Speaker 4: Kobe Turner now just got put on IR.
• 41:43
  Speaker 6: They have so many guys out of the lineup.
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: When is Miles Garrett coming back? I don't know.
• 41:49
  Speaker 4: I would think sometime soon, but Stafford was asked about
• 41:53
  Speaker 4: the injuries and he said this.
• 41:55
  Speaker 11: Again, like Devontae, disappointed for those guys. Everybody sees these
• 41:58
  Speaker 11: and they're on their fantasy team or whatever. And they're like, oh,
• 42:00
  Speaker 11: you know, I got to trade a guy in and
• 42:02
  Speaker 11: out now. And we're like, well, that guy's worked his
• 42:04
  Speaker 11: ass off for the last eight months to get this opportunity.
• 42:06
  Speaker 11: And it's unfortunate he doesn't get to do what he
• 42:08
  Speaker 11: loves to do. So I feel more for our guys
• 42:10
  Speaker 11: than I do for anybody else. And I know the
• 42:12
  Speaker 11: work that they put into it to be, you know,
• 42:15
  Speaker 11: out here doing what they love. And so that hurts
• 42:17
  Speaker 11: me for them. But at the same time, I think,
• 42:19
  Speaker 11: you know, I just feel even more responsibility to try
• 42:21
  Speaker 11: to be as good as I can be to help us.
• 42:22
  Speaker 4: I always kind of cringe when any player goes to the, oh,
• 42:27
  Speaker 4: you guys in your fantasy team.
• 42:28
  Speaker 6: Well, it's like, Why even bring that up?
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: Do you know who's kicking the football for the Rams
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: this weekend, Vic? Brandon McManus. You're damn right it is.
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: Our old buddy, Brandon McManus.
• 42:38
  Speaker 6: Was he on a roster last year?
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: Green Bay. Yeah, remember Green Bay? And he missed that.
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: Was it Green Bay or Buffalo?
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: No, he was in Green Bay last year.
• 42:49
  Speaker 6: Okay.
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: In fact, he was in Green Bay for a couple
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: of years. He came in in the middle of the
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: year two years ago or something like that, and then
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: he played last year.
• 43:01
  Speaker 6: I just cringed at the, oh, you guys and your
• 43:04
  Speaker 6: fantasy teams. I was like, all right, dude. People do it, okay?
• 43:08
  Speaker 6: All this stuff helps you make some cash.
• 43:12
  Speaker 4: Speaking of, Sam Laporte of the Lions went on the
• 43:15
  Speaker 4: Pardon My Take podcast and talked about how his contract,
• 43:20
  Speaker 4: they haven't had an extension done yet. And he finished
• 43:23
  Speaker 4: it by saying, I broke my back for this team
• 43:27
  Speaker 4: last year, and now I feel a little bit disrespected,
• 43:30
  Speaker 4: and we'll find out in three months if I'm still
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: wearing the Honolulu blue.
• 43:33
  Speaker 6: If I'm not, oh well, I'll get paid somewhere else.
• 43:36
  Speaker 5: Wow.
• 43:36
  Speaker 4: I don't think that's something you can say out loud.
• 43:41
  Speaker 4: It's not even that I disagree with the sentiment. I
• 43:45
  Speaker 4: always think that that's a tough one when people are
• 43:47
  Speaker 4: talking about contract situations and how many millions they're going
• 43:49
  Speaker 4: to make when the people who are paying the salaries
• 43:51
  Speaker 4: are people who have might struggle to put food on
• 43:53
  Speaker 4: the table. It's a weird thing to say out loud,
• 43:56
  Speaker 4: isn't it? I mean, if J.F.M. last year said into
• 44:00
  Speaker 4: a podcast, oh, yeah, well, if the Broncos don't pay me,
• 44:03
  Speaker 4: then I'll go somewhere else.
• 44:04
  Speaker 6: I'm kind of pissed about it, actually.
• 44:07
  Speaker 4: It just doesn't– it sits very odd with me when
• 44:10
  Speaker 4: players talk about stuff like that in that way publicly.
• 44:13
  Speaker 6: You can say that to your wife.
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: Go ahead.
• 44:15
  Speaker 6: Say that to your mom, your dad.
• 44:17
  Speaker 4: It just feels weird. Oh, by the way, brought to you.
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