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- MARK HAYES (00:01.804) Alright ladies and gentlemen, back to another exciting edition of Two Minute Black and White, an Honest Conversation. And Mark Hayes, Brock and Ellis here with you. Just a couple of yahoos with streaming capability looking at the political shit show that is American politics right now through the black and white lenses. Alright Brock, let's get into it. Straight of Hormuz, open or closed for 200. It's closed, very good. Let's play Double Jeopardy now. Brock Ganeles (00:23.906) closed. Brock Ganeles (00:28.888) Only open for Iranian ghost ships seems to the only thing that can get through. MARK HAYES (00:36.782) And apparently the US Navy, the strongest military force on the water in the history of time has been run out of the Strait of Hormuz and that blockade that they had set up. Now, apparently there was a report on Iranian TV that their ships were being, US Navy ships were being run out of the strait and they were bombed with those those drones again that heavily damaged a couple of helicopters, heavily damaged a couple of landing strips on some of these carriers, and they had to turn, tuck tail and head toward the Red Sea. That is not a good look for American excellence. Brock Ganeles (01:24.534) No, but maybe they were just maybe they just needed to dock somewhere where there's McDonald's to feed the troops because there's starving out there in the middle of the water that or they were throwing fishing lines off the side of the side of the boat there because apparently we couldn't feed them either So, okay, we winning the war are we winning the war yet? MARK HAYES (01:33.166) That could be it. MARK HAYES (01:46.43) negative. That's a negative ghost rider. The pattern is full. We aren't winning shit. What are we doing to them besides threatening to blow up civilian targets and making the lives of Iranians more difficult, making them hate America even more, right? They're killing school kids. We're killing children because the leaders don't care, right? You know, Hegseth Trump. Stephen Miller these lunatics they're over here in a bunker somewhere hiding right telling them what to do right never to be seen or heard from again like they're not out there on the front lines they don't care what what these orders are right they're nut jobs you know especially hexith hexax scares me scares me let's go to stevie Herman Miller Brock Ganeles (02:27.319) Mm-hmm. Brock Ganeles (02:34.806) He's a problem. He's religious shit. He's more religious than they are. But if you believe the Iranian propaganda Lego tapes, mixed tapes, the Iranians like the American people. It's our leaders that they don't like, that they actually view us as like really entrepreneurial and spirited and that people to people, they like us if we just get these idiotic MARK HAYES (02:45.07) The mixtapes, yes! Bye. Brock Ganeles (03:04.33) leaders out of the way. MARK HAYES (03:06.144) Well, you know, I find it ironic that they like the people because the people are the one that put these loony tunes in charge. Right. Brock Ganeles (03:13.442) Yeah. Maybe they like two thirds of the people. I don't think they like those MAGA people. They don't know them well enough yet. MARK HAYES (03:16.82) Right. No. No, no. And would not have run into the Iranians that they know that are already in America do not intersperse with MAGA at all. Like they don't work with them. Some might work for them, but they've never actually had a conversation with them because they don't get up to that office. Brock Ganeles (03:41.177) The Instagram doesn't have lot of photos with the MAGA and from Trump rallies with the MAGA crew back to their brethren in Iran. But you shake it all down and we're losing but saying we're winning. There's no peace talks going on because Iran says A, they don't trust us and B, the more this goes on now, the better it's working out for them as they make money off of the higher energy prices. MARK HAYES (03:44.686) you Not at all. Not at all. Brock Ganeles (04:10.328) But apparently one of our beloved allies in the Middle East, United Arab Emirates, is crying for financial support. That they're just bleeding. The war is crushing them and they're reaching out through Scott Bessent, our beloved head of treasury. And apparently they want some dollars. They want dollars. Hey, watched Trump cut a check to Argentina, right? For 20, 20, like, hey. MARK HAYES (04:20.494) Yep. MARK HAYES (04:32.962) cold hard catch. MARK HAYES (04:37.422) Right. Brock Ganeles (04:40.034) They're basically cut us a check. Yeah, you fucked things up. You cost us money cut us a check and that that's that's where we are at this stage of the war MARK HAYES (04:40.088) Cut us one. Right. You think maybe Trump can give them the plane back and they can put it on the market? Brock Ganeles (04:52.864) I mean, maybe we'll just send them some crypto funds right back to them. And one of those things, NFTs and some non fungible assets will send them some maybe we'll send them some Trump stakes and some shares in the Trump casinos. We've got plenty of stuff we can send back to them. They don't need they don't need cold hard cash. We have other currency to send their way. MARK HAYES (04:56.642) Right, right, right. Right. MARK HAYES (05:16.63) Right, absolutely. And look, We're not only losing the war, we're losing the propaganda war as we discussed in the editorial meeting prior to the broadcast. The propaganda war is being, we're being mixed taped and out reported, right? The stuff that's not being reported here that is being reported there, right? We were supposed to be the land of free speech, right? Not Iran, but they're winning. For example, I saw a video today that broke down this attack on the US warships and they were saying that each one of the American interceptor missiles costs about $2 million. So they fired these drones, right? Just like they were doing in the land attacks, they fired the drones, right? And so the US air defense missile systems went off, right? And we're shooting off these $2 million missiles, you know, while The drones are being, you know, what are they, 25,000 piece? They're sending, you know, hundreds of those things along. We're firing $2 million a shot, not hitting anything. And the strategy was to get our munitions empty and then go ahead and light us up. That's exactly what they did. Brock Ganeles (06:43.968) Which has worked. That's why now talk of future defense budgets is through the roof. Part corruption, but part we have to replenish all these stocks. mean, every aspect of this war that supposedly was so well planned and strategized, which is a fraud, is, this is a debacle. This is disaster on so many fronts. Yeah, we're also lying about casualties, but that's like just a side play for this fucking regime. MARK HAYES (06:51.159) Mm-hmm. MARK HAYES (07:00.782) Okay. Brock Ganeles (07:13.794) But look, militarily, yes, we bombed the shit out of them. Okay, great, check mark for us. But the cost of the war has been incredible, the cost of global economy has been incredible, the hit that the American consumer has taken has been incredible, the loss of our credibility, the continued fraying of our relationships with our, what we used to call our European allies, and our You know just our global stature is is in declining because our credibility and our trust as a nation No, no one calls America the leader of the free world anymore, right? That term is no longer used it used to be like the standard Follow-up to saying America or the president as leader of the free world and that's just been thrown out the window because We don't we're not viewed as someone who cares about freedom and we're really not viewed as the leader anymore MARK HAYES (07:53.174) No. No. MARK HAYES (08:08.948) No, well, definitely void of leadership. We can't call any of these people leaders, especially now that the rest of the world has been exposed to JD Vance. They see Donald Trump on the regular. They know we've got nothing up top. We've got nothing up top. And again, Vladimir Putin, we go back to his famous quote, he'll destroy America without ever having to fire a shot. Brock Ganeles (08:35.702) Mark, this is a side light, I'm going to ask the question again. feel like I asked it a week or two ago, but like, where is the secretary of state Marco Rubio? This is an international diplomatic effort. This would always be handled by the secretary of the state. He's the leading diplomat. And once again, the guy is AWOL. He's not even what invited to these. MARK HAYES (08:56.098) Mm-hmm. Brock Ganeles (09:04.492) to any discussions or talks, it's Vance, Jared, and Ritkoff. It's mind-boggling to me. I've never seen less of a presence from a secretary of state. he trying to stay out of the way because he knows it's such a disaster and this isn't intentionally a play on his part? Or does Trump hate him, not trust him so much? Or is Jared finagle his way in there so much that Rubio's sidelined? MARK HAYES (09:14.562) Well, doesn't he have like four jobs? Brock Ganeles (09:34.26) It sucks either way. MARK HAYES (09:36.588) Yep. Yep. Brock Ganeles (09:37.634) But I'm curious, I don't know the answer to that yet. MARK HAYES (09:40.739) Well, you know, that makes sense because Rubio is probably just trying to hold on to a paycheck at this point and a political career. Because think about how big his paycheck probably is. He's probably getting cut in on all these side deals that Trumpster is negotiating, putting little Marco on. It's more money than he's ever seen. And yeah, I mean, how do you have Brock Ganeles (09:48.906) in a political career. MARK HAYES (10:09.516) you know, Latino American in your cabinet. mean, first of all, can we start there? How is Marco still on board after what ICE was doing to his community? Brock Ganeles (10:20.832) He doesn't care. doesn't consider his community. We talked about Black Maga yesterday, right? He's one of those Latinos that doesn't, you know, he's, he's turned his back on the community a long time ago. So. MARK HAYES (10:25.293) Right. MARK HAYES (10:31.662) True that, true that. All right, so we're not winning the war. We're not winning the propaganda war. That's for shit sure. And we're losing money. This is costing us at every turn. Look, does MAGA get free gas? Because if that's what it takes to get free gas, I'll get one of those red hats. you know, instead of paying four or five dollar gas, because that's where we're headed. I mean, you know, it keeps getting worse. You know, they try to, you know, just piss on us and tell us it's raining. know, diesel, those costs are going to be passed on to us, the consumer, right? The cost of getting goods to market. It's it's it's ridiculous at every turn for the American people. Brock Ganeles (11:20.6) The squeeze on the American consumer and household budgets is just becoming overwhelming and it's It's behind some of the violence that we're seeing we've been talking about this that would be shooting down in Louisiana, but there's increased desperation in America and it's leading to increased MARK HAYES (11:30.829) Right. Brock Ganeles (11:50.339) violence. And it's just this is like the slow creep. But every day household budgets are getting worse because there's nothing making up for that extra cost at the pump and the grocery store and the health care and anything else that you would possibly want to spend on which it seems like everyone's you know pulled back on. The other big news today just in terms of how the economy is getting crushed was throughout the world in the airline industry. Lufthansa canceled 20,000 flights because of the higher costs. United, yeah, because of the higher jet fuel. United talked about huge problems and likely huge disruptions in travel. And Chinese airlines are canceling flights left and right. They're not announcing it. They're just canceling flights. MARK HAYES (12:29.004) Yeah, that's you. MARK HAYES (12:33.997) Yep. Brock Ganeles (12:48.152) stranding Chinese citizens all over the world. And there's zero surprise that that's going on. Who's absorbing these costs? People can't pay another extra $200- $300 for an airline ticket, so they're canceling their flights. So the companies are canceling, I mean, they're canceling their tickets. Companies are canceling the flights. It means there's just going to be less global travel. You know, I work in the industry and everyone's... MARK HAYES (12:55.95) Right? Right. MARK HAYES (13:16.792) Yep. Brock Ganeles (13:18.116) World Cup is even, you know, looks like it's going to be a bust. It was supposed to be this huge boom to the US economy. Too expensive. People don't have the money. There's such a small portion of people that have all the money, they can't fill the 80,000 seat stadium. MARK HAYES (13:24.738) Mmm, yep. Yep. Yep. MARK HAYES (13:36.206) Right. Multiple 80,000 seat stadiums. Brock Ganeles (13:39.619) They want to pay $150 for a train ride from New York City to get out to the Meadowlands to watch the game. $150 just to get there. Yeah, just to get there. Then the ticket's like a grand. Yeah, so look, the global economy's in a whole lot of hurt, and the only one not feeling the pain is the Trump family and a few of his billionaire cronies. MARK HAYES (13:46.52) What is that, six miles? MARK HAYES (13:59.331) Yeah, wow, 20,000 summer flights off Luton. You know, they were talking about the jet fuel shortage in Europe, you know, a couple of weeks ago and said it was coming. They said it was coming. They saw it coming. So, you know, this is no surprise, you know, and I'm sure it didn't take 15 minutes to cut 20,000 flights. I mean, this was strategically done over the last few weeks and they probably cut out their, you know, least profitable routes. But You know, that doesn't help if you're one of the people trying to get to one of those cities that, you know, they're not flying to on a regular basis now, you know, or the, the, the fare is sky high and you can't afford it. Yep. And, know, and again, you know, what are we sitting back and calling Trump a master businessman, a master negotiator? What? Brock Ganeles (14:39.916) Yeah, prices are up. Yeah, you want to go? Prices are up. MARK HAYES (14:55.406) Miss me with all that he's a businessman shit. He doesn't understand any of it Or maybe he does and he's just enriching himself and he could give a damn Well, that's Brock Ganeles (14:58.988) Where's the camera? Brock Ganeles (15:05.74) Nah, he doesn't. He may be enriching himself, but he doesn't know what he's doing. He knows how to enrich himself. He doesn't know what he's doing. MARK HAYES (15:12.928) Right. All right. At the same time, we got RFK back out of the loony bin, you know, with his nonsense. Now, is he for or against the measles vaccine? Because I'm confused. Brock Ganeles (15:30.006) He's against the measles vaccine every day of the year, 364 days of the year. The one day that he's being asked questions in front of Congress, that's the one day out of the year that he's all for it. Tomorrow, he'll be against it again on his little, on his fucking podcast. But he'll go in and bullshit. He'll bullshit on the one day that he's sort of on the record. MARK HAYES (15:44.982) I'm sorry. Brock Ganeles (15:57.113) I mean that guy's a fucking disaster and a fraud the health of America is in decline he also was trying to tell us that you know we handle measles better than any other country in the world I measles was at close to zero before he got in his seat and now it's a fucking problem MARK HAYES (15:57.422) Right. MARK HAYES (16:08.46) No. MARK HAYES (16:14.398) Right. In many places, I mean, we had Texas, South Carolina, we've got outbreaks, and that's not all. You know, a lot of these diseases are coming back, right? Because, you know, here in the US, we'd eliminated a lot of because of vaccines. And then when we travel abroad or people come here, they bring stuff with them, right? that normally would be beaten down by the vaccine, but now it's bubbling up again. Brock Ganeles (16:47.76) Yeah, we're so much more vulnerable than we've ever been. So he got grilled. He's an idiot. We can't get, but there's no mechanism really for getting him out of the seat, but like an impeachment. The Congress, the dynamic of the Congress is not set up for that. So all we can do is scream from the hilltops. I do view like one of the, you know, the positives out of the whole day is like, there's a great photo of AOC. MARK HAYES (16:50.112) Right. Right. MARK HAYES (17:06.606) you Brock Ganeles (17:13.772) getting right in RFK's face and they're arguing like face to face and like just that picture is like 10,000 words of the energy that we want to see on the left, not the protocols, not the norms, like the actual energy and the anger we want to see reflected in our quote representatives. So I feel represented by AOC in that moment yelling at RFK. MARK HAYES (17:15.596) I love it. MARK HAYES (17:22.124) with. MARK HAYES (17:26.134) way MARK HAYES (17:41.442) Yeah. Yeah. Brock Ganeles (17:42.403) calling him a fucking clown, telling him, you know, his policies are asinine and his job is to save lives, not to, you know, tell people to drink warm, unpasteurized milk and swim in like fucking sewage water, right? Like, so I like the energy I see in the photo. think that's reflective. That's the type of animation that motivates people themselves at home to want to fight more. MARK HAYES (17:48.267) Right. Brock Ganeles (18:10.456) So I just once again, you know AOC for the win, right? She knows how to handle the moment MARK HAYES (18:16.46) Yep. And Brock, think about it. Isn't that what got MAGA riled up? MAGA riled up, right? Hey, punch that guy in the face. I remember a time, know, guy like that wouldn't be able to sit in here. You know, we had MAGA punching people in the face at their rallies and, you know, Trump talking about kicking people's tails. Hey, you know what? That's what it, if a little petite little lady like darling AOC, can get in the face of a grown man, you know what? The rest of us should get off our tails too. Brock Ganeles (18:50.238) Anger is a strong emotion. You gotta tap into it. And when it comes to a knife fight, bringing some anger to the table, not the worst thing. It's not a time to be serenity now. It's like for death. And so I'm all for the energy. Very excited for the energy she gave. R.F.K. don't... Rumor has it Trump... MARK HAYES (18:51.948) Yes it is. Yeah it is. MARK HAYES (18:59.574) No, not at all. MARK HAYES (19:08.28) Right? Brock Ganeles (19:16.632) Is asking Tulsi Gabbard now to resign, supposedly, before the midterms? I don't know why it's just the women that he wants fucking quitting her to get fired. mean, Tulsi, where's Cash Patel, Hegseth, RFK? mean, there's a long line of Yahu's that should be getting fired, but apparently she's next on the list. MARK HAYES (19:27.384) Right? MARK HAYES (19:40.822) Yeah, I thought she was the one that was getting the to-do list on how to destroy America from Vladimir. We know she's a Russian asset. That's not been a secret. You know, ever since she, you know, turned tail on the Democratic Party. Brock Ganeles (19:56.109) What's the point of getting her out? She really hasn't done anything. She's been quiet. She's almost been non-descript in the first 16 months. I mean, she hasn't had any massive scandals. I mean, she did send the CIA down to Georgia in that bullshit incident that Trump's strong-armed her into. But besides that, I mean, that would be, you know, an infirable offense any other time in American history. But besides that, she hasn't done too much. So don't know why she's target or what bump. MARK HAYES (20:02.328) Yep. Right. MARK HAYES (20:13.367) Right. MARK HAYES (20:18.424) Right. Right. Brock Ganeles (20:24.12) Trump thinks he would get out of her resigning. think America would just shrug and go, who gives a shit. Patel, Hegseth, much bigger names, a lot Nick. There's much bigger names that I think Trump should be thinking of getting rid of. Quote before the midterms. Speaking of the midterms. MARK HAYES (20:29.506) Right. MARK HAYES (20:40.302) How about it, huh? You think it's gonna happen? mean, Virginia, so listen, out of these elections that have taken place, 297 of the 301 elections that have taken place have been won by the blue side. So that is a great thing. I saw a mixtape on that by the way. Brock Ganeles (21:03.084) That is a great thing. wasn't, I didn't love how close the Virginia election was yesterday. Well, let's remember in Tennessee, we swang the needle, like swung the needle, like 34 points and lost. And there's no like moral victories, right? So I don't care if we won by one vote in Virginia. I wish the margin would bigger. It was a lot less than what Spamburger won by, but barring some bullshit from the judiciary, that looks like it's for MARK HAYES (21:10.176) Right, way too far. Right. MARK HAYES (21:29.973) Thank Brock Ganeles (21:31.199) extra seats that would move into the democratic likely to move into the democratic category and Basically, it's an out gerrymandering by the Dems Since they did the Texas shenanigans So, you know kudos to California and Virginia in particular for coming strong now We got to see if Florida tries to do a scramble MARK HAYES (21:43.597) Yep. Brock Ganeles (21:56.993) I'd love to see DeSantis try that shit and just muck shit up and just, know, part is such a clusterfuck right now. But yeah, kudos to Virginia. came through, people came out and they won. 1%, 2%, we had to have it and we got it. So look, I do think there's going to be midterms because I think we've established that elections are run at the state level and Trump can't cancel the midterms. Now that, of course, he called it MARK HAYES (21:57.272) Right. MARK HAYES (22:01.119) Take an L. MARK HAYES (22:08.95) Yep, they had to have it. MARK HAYES (22:19.724) Right. Right. Brock Ganeles (22:24.29) you he cried about it being a rigged election overnight because anytime you lose this, has to be rigged is now the focus is going to be voter suppression because now there's a real concern or increased real concern by MAGA that they're going to get smoked in November. therefore here comes, I just think they're going to double, triple down on voter suppression over the next five months. MARK HAYES (22:29.792) to be ready. Of course. Right. MARK HAYES (22:51.594) Yeah, it's gonna be ugly. And now again, are we gonna see local police departments and state police departments pushing back? Or will federal authorities supersede? Like the Georgia State Police when the feds come to seize ballot boxes and to keep African Americans away, because we know they're only going to to cities where brown people vote, right? Yeah, they're not gonna be up here in Alpharetta. They're gonna be down on the south side of Fulton County, down in Atlanta, right? Over in Decatur, know, Savannah, Macon, Albany, right? The city centers in our respective states. And that's gonna require a lot of federal firepower. Brock Ganeles (23:24.108) Yeah, they're going after you though. Yeah. MARK HAYES (23:49.843) I mean, when you look at the coasts and cities like Dallas, Houston, San Antonio, because now you got the Latino vote, which is not leaning your way like it used to. Brock Ganeles (24:04.46) But Mark, I worry about governors like what Kemp pulled four, six years ago, whatever. I worry about voter rolls. worry about, you know, directors of attorney generals and people like that in red states purging voter rolls. So feds don't have to, you know, come in and seize ballot boxes, but they're just gonna, that a whole bunch of people are gonna show up and their name's not gonna be on lists. MARK HAYES (24:11.832) Thanks, Gabe. MARK HAYES (24:30.54) Right. Brock Ganeles (24:30.808) Like I feel like that's where the game's going to be played. it's, for Mark Elias is the world and people on those lines are going to have to teach the rest of us how to either make sure we're registered and or how to fight at the local level to make sure there's not shenanigans in our communities. Like you said, don't think the upper Hudson river Valley is going to be a target area, but there's a lot of Americans who are going to, they're going to need coaching. MARK HAYES (24:46.862) Hey, you me? Yeah. And I don't think. MARK HAYES (24:55.991) Right. Brock Ganeles (24:59.872) and we're have to real strategies in place for hanging on to the vote basically. MARK HAYES (25:05.666) Yeah. No, you're right. Because, you know, what kept pulled, was just unbelievable. I mean, he removed what about a million voters and only one by 50,000 against Stacey Abrams. So, and right now currently Keisha Lance Bottoms is leading all Republicans in the polling here in Georgia. So, you know, we might see another. you know, remember his boy, Raffensperger is still in there as secretary of state. So, you know, I'm constantly checking my registration to make sure it's still good because I don't trust him as far as we can throw him. Brock Ganeles (25:49.464) Everyone's gonna have to do that. You're have to be constantly checking your registration status because MARK HAYES (25:56.344) Yeah. Brock Ganeles (25:59.341) They don't have that many levers to pull. know they, like the polling's horrendous, right? So like, this is the game MAGA is gonna have to play. They're gonna have to purge voter rolls. So it's coming like a freight train. They got six months to play this game. They lost the gerrymander game and now this is the next one. But this one happens quietly, right? This one happens in the shadows. Voter rolls get purged in. MARK HAYES (26:01.965) Right. MARK HAYES (26:08.718) Right. Right. MARK HAYES (26:24.215) No doubt. Brock Ganeles (26:27.64) you know, on the weekends, Sunday afternoon when no one else is around, all of sudden, lists disappear. MARK HAYES (26:31.47) Absolutely. Right, it's a very sneaky process. we've seen it before, over and over again. it's so frustrating, brah, because they go to the same places every time. And man, it just pisses me off. But yeah, it's funny too. And we talked a little bit about the... Marjorie Taylor Greene and your boy Swanson family dinners. What's his name? Yeah. You know, and it's funny too. I was talking to one of my African-American classmates from Howard University, the Howard University. And he said, he sent me the clip of the video and he said, yeah, you know, this clown is out here talking about oops, like he spilled something, you know. Brock Ganeles (27:10.828) Tucker, Tucker Carlson. MARK HAYES (27:32.138) And literally apologizing for misleading people. Misleading people. Marjorie Taylor Greene going hard in the paint on Trump and the death of MAGA and that they've got nowhere to turn. They've got nowhere to go. I we talked about this yesterday. There's no way to resurrect this, right? It's just the racism. That's all it's left. Brock Ganeles (27:53.644) Yeah. They got nowhere to go. Yeah. I Tucker is full of shit. I'm just keep wondering what game he's really trying to play. Like there's something behind this. He's got a massive self interest here. He's trying to figure out something. He's either read the tea leaves somewhere. I just don't believe that Tucker Collison is really doing a mea culpa to America. Really feels remorse and is now gonna like, you know, change course and change his philosophies in any way, or form. MARK HAYES (28:04.718) Thank Brock Ganeles (28:28.086) Yeah, he thinks Trump's an asshole. Okay. That's obvious. I just feel like he's got something behind it. I think he has political ambitions and I think he has to be watched very, very closely. Yeah, he's a snake. He's a snake in the grass. There's no embracing Tucker Carlson. And he's as anti-Semitic and racist as they come. MARK HAYES (28:30.508) Right. Right. MARK HAYES (28:35.724) Right. Right. MARK HAYES (28:44.64) no doubt. No doubt. MARK HAYES (28:55.148) Yeah. And what do you got for a quick hit? Brock Ganeles (28:58.25) Okay. I'm so fucking tired of how, how MAGA blue collar America, white America has allowed themselves to be bamboozled by business owners to fight for lower regulations. as if it's something that's going to benefit the people in general. No, when the only lower regulations only benefits the business owner, it means they don't have to have those pesky things like OSHA rules to play by. And they have to actually worry about whether they fucking kill you on the job because they actually have things like whatever, you know, methane sensors up so things don't fucking blow up. So I see a story today, two people, People in West Virginia are dead, probably more in the rubble because a energy refinery blew up. And I'm like, yeah, okay West Virginia workers. MARK HAYES (29:59.503) Mm-hmm. Brock Ganeles (30:03.906) Glad you voted MAGA and you got those lower regulations so that the economy could hum when it's really you, you fuckers, are the ones that got put in harm's way because the business owner didn't have to have safety regulations in place and you fired all those assholes who come around and actually check the safety rules and you think it's such a win for you. MARK HAYES (30:04.312) Thank you. MARK HAYES (30:13.806) Thank MARK HAYES (30:27.606) Right. Yeah. Brock Ganeles (30:28.556) that there's no regulations, but really it's killing you and it's benefiting that same class of billionaires. Musk loves it when there's no regulations against electric cars so they could just roam around the streets and run kids over in fucking crosswalks because they're just figuring it out. They're just going to iterate the software. Meanwhile, you're fucking dead in the road, but you're happy that there was less regulations. America has been fucking played for idiots. MARK HAYES (30:54.445) makes no sense. Brock Ganeles (30:58.334) on this topic my entire life. MARK HAYES (31:02.05) Yep. Hook, line and sinker and go for it every time. Go for it every time. Let the unions be broken up. The unions were the ones fighting for your safety measures and you're allowing the unions to be broken up. What it like at what point do you not put two and two together? Brock Ganeles (31:19.32) the biggest anti-union companies, Amazon, Starbucks, and everyone in America fucking throws money at those two companies every fucking day while they turn around and try to break the entire, break the unions in America. Cause yeah, of course Amazon, Bezos doesn't want fucking regulations in those warehouses. He wants robots that are just running people over and like car automated fucking, you know, forklifts that are just saying they rolled over a couple of workers, cart those fuckers out of here. MARK HAYES (31:26.951) come on. MARK HAYES (31:48.994) Yep, absolutely. Brock Ganeles (31:49.014) You know? Next man up at minimum wage! MARK HAYES (31:53.623) Right. Yeah, it makes no sense. And I, bro, I can't even tell you how annoying it is. I saw that explosion too. I mean, and we've had a few of them that we just haven't touched on. Brock Ganeles (32:06.388) all the time. Remember that train in Ohio when it blew up and fucking threw the gas? Nothing ever changed though. But what was it? What was the thing? were two people on like a train car with like 500 boxes. They're like two, two employees working the whole thing. I mean, it was so inevitable to happen, but you know what? Not a fucking thing changed after that. Nothing will change after these two guys in West Virginia and blow it up. I mean, it just happened so often, but these same Yahoo's will turn around and vote. They're going to vote red. MARK HAYES (32:21.358) Right. Brock Ganeles (32:35.234) They're going to vote MAGA. They're going to vote their racism. They don't care if you go to work every day and they just voted against anything that protects their lives. And the wonder when their fucking heads blown off, how fucking could it happen? So aggravated by this whole play that's going on my entire fucking life. It's all I've heard about. Well, less regulations. You need less regulations. The economy can grow. MARK HAYES (32:44.225) Right. MARK HAYES (32:48.898) Yeah. MARK HAYES (32:54.484) Yeah, I mean, MARK HAYES (33:00.622) Yeah, they've done us nasty on that. Nasty work. New revelations out on the Gates Foundation Epstein review. Did you see that Gates Foundation is reviewing its Epstein ties as released emails raise questions for funders? That's problem for Bill. mean, you know, his ex-wife is out of there because of it. Brock Ganeles (33:18.199) Now... MARK HAYES (33:30.008) You know, how interesting is that? But again, who's gonna be held accountable? You know, Brock, it's just another one of those surface level inquiries. know, nobody's facing any charges, nothing's happening. You know, and you know, the foundation is supposed to be working to end, you know, what is it, preventable? you know, mortality rates. Yeah. Brock Ganeles (34:01.654) The foundation itself has done some great things. Malaria. It's done a lot of work on malaria. you know, I mean, Bill Gates has put much of his money to good use, but what the fuck was he doing with Epstein? And yeah, if I'm a funder to the foundation, I'm wondering, did money get funneled to Epstein so Bill Gates could run around with Russian hookers? I mean, it's a simple, you know, is that what was going on behind the scenes? MARK HAYES (34:14.029) Hey. MARK HAYES (34:30.22) I mean he bought his wife an STD. Brock Ganeles (34:30.284) But once again, yeah, this is an issue. They have the emails, but this is like one guy out of thousands that were intertwined with Epstein. And we know the number one guy that was intertwined happens to be running our country. MARK HAYES (34:45.28) Right, right. And starting stupid wars because of it. All right, buddy, that's going to do it for us today. Good stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Brock Ganeles (34:55.946) Okay, Mark. I feel better after getting that off my chest. Alright, Mark, always a pleasure. We'll pick it up tomorrow. MARK HAYES (35:04.876) Revolution. We'll see you then.