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LSU co-ed car parked running, but WHERE IS KORI? · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: A young co ed at LSU is missing and all
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Speaker 1: outsearch going on right now. Where is Corey? Corey Gaugier's
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Speaker 1: family became concerned about the LSU freshman after finding out
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Speaker 1: she didn't show up for work. Gauchier's car was found
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Speaker 1: unoccupied on the Mississippi River Bridge. A state trooper had
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Speaker 1: reported an abandoned vehicle to the local police, but there
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Speaker 1: was an accident before authorities arrived. Another driver hit Gauchier's car,
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Speaker 1: causing extensive damage. The Baton Ridge Police Department says that
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Speaker 1: Gauchier's car was still running. The LSU freshman's personal belongings,
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Speaker 1: including her phone and wallet, were still inside. The car
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Speaker 1: was towed to a junk yard. That's where her family
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Speaker 1: found it by pinging her phone. Reports say the police
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Speaker 1: department did not content act the registered owner after towing
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Speaker 1: the vehicle. Well, that settles it. I'm never letting John,
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Speaker 1: David or Lucy out of their rooms again, my thirteen
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Speaker 1: year old twins. I mean, this family is very, very
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Speaker 1: involved in their daughter's life. They let her go off
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Speaker 1: to LSU and the next thing you know, she doesn't
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Speaker 1: show up for work. They can't find her, they don't
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Speaker 1: hear a word from anybody, and the only way they
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Speaker 1: do figure out where she is by pinging her cell phone.
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Speaker 1: With me and all start panel to try and make
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Speaker 1: sense of it all. First of all, Cheryl McCollum, director
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Speaker 1: of the Cold Case Research Institute, Doctor Bethany Marshall, psychoanalyst
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Speaker 1: and star of a new Netflix series, Bling Empire, and
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Speaker 1: you can find her at doctor Bethany Marshall dot com.
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Speaker 1: Dale Carson is with US criminal defense attorney out of Jacksonville,
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Speaker 1: former FBI that worked on the Wayne Williams Atlanta and
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Speaker 1: Missing Missing and Murdered Children case. Former cop and author
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Speaker 1: of Arrest Proof Yourself. Tony Wade in the search for Corey,
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Speaker 1: the commander the Cajun Coast Search and Rescue Team. You
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Speaker 1: can find them on Facebook at Cajun Coast s AR,
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Speaker 1: Cajun Coast K nine SAAR dot com. Also with me
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Speaker 1: a young LSU student who has totally immersed herself in
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Speaker 1: the search for Corey, Gabrielle Clemens and her dad, my
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Speaker 1: longtime friend and colleague, Kirby Clemens. But first to Alexis
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Speaker 1: terres Chut Crime Online dot com investigative reporter also with
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Speaker 1: lead Stories dot com. Alexis terres Chuck, what is happening?
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Speaker 1: Corey is a beautiful at nineteen year old freshman in college.
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Speaker 1: She was leading her dorm with left dorm on Tuesday
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Speaker 1: night before midnight. All of a sudden, after midnight. This
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Speaker 1: is what let me say, this is the last time
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Speaker 1: anybody has heard from her since she has been thing
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Speaker 1: for about a week now. She gets in her car.
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Speaker 1: She is driving, driving across the bridge and disappears. Absolutely
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Speaker 1: no traces of her whatsoever, no text messages, no phone calls.
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Speaker 1: We don't know where she is. A young man is
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Speaker 1: driving across the bridge and unfortunately, because if traffic hits
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Speaker 1: her car, he gets right out immediately. Is so concerned.
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Speaker 1: He looks inside, looks and he sees that there's a
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Speaker 1: cell phone in there, the car is running, there's a
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Speaker 1: person there, but there is not a person. Wait a minute,
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Speaker 1: all right, you said there's a purse in there, but
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Speaker 1: there's not a person. Well, that was a lot of
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Speaker 1: information to take in so quickly. Let me understand this.
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Speaker 1: So this young girl, Corey Gothier lsu co ed freshman freshman,
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Speaker 1: she leaves, goes out in her car. Nobody knows where
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Speaker 1: she's going. The next thing, you know, her car are
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Speaker 1: heading home rammed from behind on the bridge over the
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Speaker 1: Mississippi River. You know, that's interesting. You said she was
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Speaker 1: going home. Was her car pointed toward home or not
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Speaker 1: she turtling east? I think I believe that's where people believe.
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Speaker 1: You know, Let's follow up with Tony Wade, our longtime
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Speaker 1: colleague and Frank commander of the Cajun Coach Search and
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Speaker 1: Rescue team who was looking for Corey. Right now, guys,
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Speaker 1: I want you to take a listen to this. Our
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Speaker 1: friends at NBC thirty three last that we knew she
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Speaker 1: was on canvas, so we call LSUPD first and so
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Speaker 1: they that's why they are taking the league. The family
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Speaker 1: says that her vehicle was found on the Mississippi River
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Speaker 1: bridge and that it was involved in an accident around
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Speaker 1: one am on April seventh. Last thing that we know of,
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Speaker 1: she sent my son a snapchat. At midnight, LSU put
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Speaker 1: out a statement saying that the car was unoccupied when
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Speaker 1: it was hit. We found out today that a state
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Speaker 1: trooper reported that the he saw an abandoned vehicle on
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Speaker 1: the Mississippi River bridge, and then by the time the
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Speaker 1: dispatch called it in and somebody from the Sheriff's office
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Speaker 1: could get there. The red had already happened, and that
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Speaker 1: it was headed eastbound on the bridge toward Baton Rouge.
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Speaker 1: Not sure if she was trying to come to my
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Speaker 1: house and change her mind or what she was doing,
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Speaker 1: but we know she left Baton Rouge and then eventually
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Speaker 1: was going back into Baton Rouge. You know, I just
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Speaker 1: keep looking at this girl's picture and I see her
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Speaker 1: big brown eyes and her beautiful smile. It looks like
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Speaker 1: she's looking right at me. Can we find her? Can
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Speaker 1: we help find her? The tip line two two five
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Speaker 1: five seven eight zero eight zero seven repeat two two
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Speaker 1: five five to seven eight zero eight zero seven. Where
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Speaker 1: is Corey? You know, this young girl has just turned
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Speaker 1: eighteen years old. She is a freshman at LSU. That's
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Speaker 1: just a few years older than my children. And when
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Speaker 1: I think of sending them off and suddenly this happens
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Speaker 1: to them. Back to you, Tony Wade, or should I
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Speaker 1: say Commander Wade with the Cajun Coach Search and Rescue Team.
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Speaker 1: Tell me about the search and about that bridge. You know, Tony,
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Speaker 1: you and I talked at length when I took the
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Speaker 1: children on an RV trip and we went over the
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Speaker 1: Mississippi and we went to the confluence where the Mississippi
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Speaker 1: meets the Missouri. And I'm just thinking about her car stopped,
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Speaker 1: still running over the mighty Mississippi. What could have happened
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Speaker 1: on that bridge. Tell me about the search, Tony. The
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Speaker 1: search right now is a massive search. There are just
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Speaker 1: a lot of people, a lot of different groups are
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Speaker 1: out searching right now. We did get a report that
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Speaker 1: a key nine from a team made an alert on
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Speaker 1: the river in the same you know, on one spot.
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Speaker 1: So they're searching it pretty good right now. But the
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Speaker 1: Mississippi is just so difficult to search because the currents
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Speaker 1: are rolling and rolling, and there's there's multiple things on
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Speaker 1: the bottom for things that get tangled in. It's just
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Speaker 1: it's it's a really tough start. You know, the Mississippi
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Speaker 1: is so vast, uh, Commander Wade, And you're telling me
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Speaker 1: that one particular area of the Mississippi is being searched
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Speaker 1: right now, Tony. Yes, they're they're running solar on a
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Speaker 1: spot right now where the dogs had indicated, uh, you know,
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Speaker 1: south of the bridge. Um. But but again, the Mississippi
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Speaker 1: just store. There's so many challenges at a search. They're confused,
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Speaker 1: the dogs or what have you. It's just it's a
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Speaker 1: really difficult search. I know there's a lot of ground
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Speaker 1: searches along the banks of the river going on. Um
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Speaker 1: there's gonna go for days, you know, And there's no
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Speaker 1: certainty in this case that she's actually in the river,
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Speaker 1: which I mean, for all we know, Commander Wade, she
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Speaker 1: could have been rustled out of that car. Is a
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Speaker 1: car still running and dragged off to be raped or
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Speaker 1: attacked in some way. And the dogs are hitting in
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Speaker 1: that area. You know, in some parts of the Mississippi
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Speaker 1: it's as deep as ninety feet correct, Yes, I think
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Speaker 1: the spots of the dogs alerted them. They were seeing
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Speaker 1: in between eighty five and ninety feet. And the waters
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Speaker 1: zero visibility as well. There's no visibility in anything. Is
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Speaker 1: that Dale Carson jumping in? It is jump in, Dale?
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Speaker 1: And also want to talk to you about those air
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Speaker 1: bags what you were telling me? Come ahead, Dale. Well,
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Speaker 1: the zero visibility water just amplifies the problem because of
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Speaker 1: the current. When you're diving in zero visibility water, as
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Speaker 1: I've done on occasion, you can't see anything. It's a
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Speaker 1: matter of feeling for things, turtles and all that sort
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Speaker 1: of thing. You don't know what you're going to lay
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Speaker 1: your handgot. But when I looked at the photographs of
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Speaker 1: the actual crash, it's interesting that the airbags were deployed.
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Speaker 1: And my research indicates that static car the airbags when
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Speaker 1: the rear end strike are not supposed to walk. Slow down,
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Speaker 1: Slow down. You know, when you and Tony Wade with
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Speaker 1: his Cajun accents start talking so fast, it's a lot
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Speaker 1: of information to take in. You guys got to slow down.
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Speaker 1: You know, we're just lawyers, Okay, crime stories with Nancy Grace.
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Speaker 1: Guys are talking about a missing girl. She's eighteen years old, freshman,
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Speaker 1: lsu the whole world in front of her. I want
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Speaker 1: to find this girl. Her family wants to find this girl.
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Speaker 1: So Dale, slow it down, You and Tony, slow it down.
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Speaker 1: What did you just say about the bags? So the
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Speaker 1: bags in the car. Airbags are not supposed to both
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Speaker 1: deploy if there's no one in the car or if
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Speaker 1: it's rear ended. And it appears what you were saying
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Speaker 1: is certainly possible that she was in the car. We
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Speaker 1: will know that when the DNA is checked on the airbags.
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Speaker 1: Every time an airbag deploys, it leaves a trace of
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Speaker 1: the driver on the airbag. If there is a driver,
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Speaker 1: so the airbags Alexis rushot crime online dot com and
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Speaker 1: lead stories dot com. The airbags did deploy. Guess that's
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Speaker 1: what we understand. But this is so strange to me
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Speaker 1: that a state trooper drives by, he sees an abandoned car,
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Speaker 1: he doesn't stop, he doesn't investigate. But this is if
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Speaker 1: I drove by an abandon car, similar to the boy
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Speaker 1: that drove by the car, he would stop and try
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Speaker 1: to help. I mean, I stop it help every all
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Speaker 1: listen to me. We've been together a long time. Alexis.
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Speaker 1: If you see an abandoned car, do not get out
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Speaker 1: of your car to go help. Call nine one one.
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Speaker 1: I'm not a police officer. Don't get out okay, but
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Speaker 1: she just said, okay, anyway, don't get out of the car.
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Speaker 1: Say you're right. Cheryl mccollo, I'm director Coldcase Research Institute.
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Speaker 1: You can find her at coldcase crime dot org. Jump in, Cheryl.
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Speaker 1: My biggest concern, Nancy is the car was still running.
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Speaker 1: That means whatever happened to her happened very quickly. If
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Speaker 1: she got out of the car because somebody you know,
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Speaker 1: stage direct with her. Whatever could have happened by a
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Speaker 1: perpetrator again was very very fast. I'm also heartsick for
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Speaker 1: her family. Can you imagine using find my iPhone only
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Speaker 1: to see that her car is totaled in a junkyard?
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Speaker 1: You know, I want to go through the timeline again. Kirby,
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Speaker 1: Clement's joining me. This is Gabrielle Clement's dad. Gabrielle has
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Speaker 1: totally immersed herself in trying to find Corey. She also
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Speaker 1: is at LSU Kirby, Okay, the timeline that I understand
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Speaker 1: is she gets in her car and Jumpana likes us
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Speaker 1: if you've got a different timeline, And the next thing
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Speaker 1: we know, her car is reported abandoned on a bridge
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Speaker 1: over the Mississippi. The airbacks are deployed, the car is
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Speaker 1: still running, her purse and cell phone or on the
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Speaker 1: car are The car gets towed After this starts hitting
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Speaker 1: the news thanks to people like your daughter, Gabrielle clements.
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Speaker 1: The guy who henry car calls either the dad or
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Speaker 1: the uncle to say I hit her car, but nobody
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Speaker 1: was in it. Is that right, alexis dress Chuck, That
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Speaker 1: is exactly right. He is the one that he knew
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Speaker 1: what happened. He thought it was so strange, and he
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Speaker 1: reached out to the family because he didn't he didn't
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Speaker 1: know how to contact anybody. He contacted the police when
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Speaker 1: he hit the car and they came, but he didn't
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Speaker 1: know how to find But no, Corey, Okay, Kirby clements.
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Speaker 1: You and I have worked on prosecuted a lot of
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Speaker 1: missing people ending up in murder cases. Tell me what
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Speaker 1: your take is on this case, Kirby, Well, I'll tell you.
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Speaker 1: My daughter is the one that got me involved because
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Speaker 1: she had so she was so traumatized and so what
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Speaker 1: we One of the things that I had heard was
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Speaker 1: that they have an app on your phone. I think
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Speaker 1: the school provides an app that you can notify people
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Speaker 1: you know where you are and that it's appeared. And
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Speaker 1: her car had gone toward the bridge, then going back
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Speaker 1: into ls towards LSU, and then going back towards the
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Speaker 1: bridge again. I mean, right, she had movement travel. It's
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Speaker 1: that Gabrielle. Yes, Gabrielle tell us what she now dear right, So,
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Speaker 1: according to what I saw on Twitter that had been
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Speaker 1: posted by the family using the app called Life three sixty.
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Speaker 1: They saw the accident. They saw that using like videos
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Speaker 1: from the surrounding storage places she passed. She drove towards
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Speaker 1: the bridge and then away and then towards in a
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Speaker 1: way about four times prior to actually getting onto the
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Speaker 1: bridge where the accident occurred. So it was more so
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Speaker 1: like a sporadic driving where they weren't sure what she
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Speaker 1: was doing because she had already texted I believe her
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Speaker 1: cousin or her brother that she was on the way
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Speaker 1: to them, so they were anticipating her arrival. She moves
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Speaker 1: back and forth, and then the cars found on the bridge. Okay, guys,
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Speaker 1: Live three sixty works. I know I've got it on
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Speaker 1: the twins. We all have it on each other. So
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Speaker 1: when Lucy thinks she's going on a walk by herself,
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Speaker 1: listening to whatever she's listening to, we know that she's
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Speaker 1: okay and where she is because we can see her
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Speaker 1: walking you know home. It works. So, Gabrielle Clemens, tell
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Speaker 1: me your understanding of the car's movements. So from my understanding,
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Speaker 1: she went it was like she was going westbound in eastbound,
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Speaker 1: so she kept going forwards and backwards. It was a
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Speaker 1: lot of speculation when no one understood why if she'd
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Speaker 1: already said the direction she was going in it was
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Speaker 1: a known destination. I believe the DPS had the address
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Speaker 1: she was going to typed in, but her family made
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Speaker 1: a note that they that she would have known exactly
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Speaker 1: where she was driving too, So everything was confusing towards
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Speaker 1: the ending. And I think they narrowed it down to
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Speaker 1: about a ten minute time in which they did not
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Speaker 1: know what she was doing. Why does that tell you, Kirby, Well,
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Speaker 1: I what got me concerned is because I was thinking,
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Speaker 1: was it someone in the car or was she being
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Speaker 1: followed by someone and was trying to you know, avoid,
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Speaker 1: you know, anything, And because I think that it was
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Speaker 1: reported that the vehicle decelerated rapidly you know, at the bridge.
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Speaker 1: So those are my concerns that it was either someone
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Speaker 1: was someone in the car where she having an argument
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Speaker 1: and just you know, got out, or was it a
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Speaker 1: something she was being followed and again, as you indicated,
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Speaker 1: someone staged an accident. And that was concerning. But what
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Speaker 1: was even more concerning was the fact that once they
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Speaker 1: found the car with the purse. I mean, if you
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Speaker 1: find a vehicle running with no driver, that says to
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Speaker 1: me start looking around for the driver right now because
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Speaker 1: it's a vehicle on the bridge, purse cell phone? Why
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Speaker 1: told we should someone should have been looking that night.
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Speaker 1: You know what's amazing to me, Tony Wade, our commander
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Speaker 1: Cajun Coach Search and Rescue, is that there are not
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Speaker 1: there's not a surveillance camera on the bridge. There what
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Speaker 1: I'm understanding, there's this there's cameras at the beginning and
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Speaker 1: the end of the bridge, but nothing nothing, No cameras
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Speaker 1: where the incident would have taken place out And what
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Speaker 1: does cameras show, Tony fact, that's what I was told.
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Speaker 1: Well did those cameras show? I haven't heard any information
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Speaker 1: at all, you know, all I was told us there's
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Speaker 1: no cameras where the accident took place at But it
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Speaker 1: seems to me we would be able to tell if
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Speaker 1: somebody was in the car with her. Yeah, that's that
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Speaker 1: has been my question all along. But Nancy Grace, it
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Speaker 1: also sounds like hesitation hesitation marks and a suicide. You know,
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Speaker 1: you're trying to decide what to do, and finally you
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Speaker 1: decide this is what you're going to do, Which leads
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Speaker 1: me to the point I was involved in the Atlantic
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Speaker 1: kid nappings and killings. And when a body strikes the water,
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Speaker 1: it doesn't float, you can't see it. It goes directly
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Speaker 1: under water, and it's several days before it will actually
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Speaker 1: return to the surface. And with that current and the
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Speaker 1: actual river, the Mississippi River right there is in floodstage,
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Speaker 1: and so that body could be if it's in the water,
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Speaker 1: could be mile by. Now, Della Carson, you're the expert.
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Speaker 1: I know that. But Cheryl McCollum to me, if this
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Speaker 1: were a suicide of a girl this age, which is
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Speaker 1: statistically very very low likelihood, think about it. If you're
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Speaker 1: going to commit suicide, I think you would pull up,
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Speaker 1: cut the car off, and sit there and think, not
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Speaker 1: erratically go forward and back and forward and back and
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Speaker 1: forward and back, over and back. That sounds like someone
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Speaker 1: is hitting the brake and then trying to go forward,
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Speaker 1: almost as if you're in some kind of a struggle. Exactly. Well,
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Speaker 1: I'll tell you the thing that bothers me the most
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Speaker 1: here is perception matters. And you've got a person that
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Speaker 1: no contact was made with the car owner, no contact
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Speaker 1: to try to find the driver, Nobody went out of
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Speaker 1: their way to figure out Why do we have a
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Speaker 1: running corner bridge that's been wrecked with airbacks employed. Then
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Speaker 1: you've got the school taken down posters of a missing student.
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Speaker 1: The perception is nobody cared and we gotta do something
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Speaker 1: about that. Today, Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, Guys, we
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Speaker 1: were talking about a missing girl. She's just eighteen years old,
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Speaker 1: just turned Corey Gothier, LSU freshman. Her car is found
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Speaker 1: running with her cell phone and her purse in the car.
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Speaker 1: It's been rearended on a bridge over the Mississippi. Let's
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Speaker 1: talk about Gabrielle Clements. Is it true that a lot
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Speaker 1: of the posters missing posters about her were taken down
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Speaker 1: on campus? Right? So a lot of the students went
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Speaker 1: around after the uncle came to LSU, he passed out posters.
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Speaker 1: There was a large student help and they put posters
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Speaker 1: up all throughout LSU Student Union. That's like a really
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Speaker 1: dense part of the campus that gets a lot of
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Speaker 1: foot traffic. Some more people to see the flyers and
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Speaker 1: LSU had them removed and they sent out an email
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Speaker 1: to us basically explaining that it didn't have the official
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Speaker 1: LSU markings. Whatever may have been. But in my opinion,
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Speaker 1: I was like this, a girl is missing at the
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Speaker 1: end of the day, even if your school name isn't
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Speaker 1: on the papers, the goal should be to find her,
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Speaker 1: not say that you are attached to anything. So I
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Speaker 1: don't I felt that though. It just it was very
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Speaker 1: stressful to see that. And so eventually they did go
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Speaker 1: and put the posters back up. And this was during
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Speaker 1: around when they were doing school tours, so they took
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Speaker 1: them down during the tours put them back up. Prospective
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Speaker 1: students and their parents wouldn't say there was a student missing, right, wow,
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Speaker 1: But well, here's the truth of what more people, here's
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Speaker 1: the truth exactly. Here's the truth of what we learned
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Speaker 1: from LSU Amber Shearer. We are sorry for the confusion
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Speaker 1: that calls the posers to initially be taken down. An
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Speaker 1: employee was following our student unions and policies. Student unions
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Speaker 1: policies against hanging flyers on the walls. Obviously this is
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Speaker 1: a unique situation. The removal was unwarranted. The flyers had
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Speaker 1: been replaced. Yeah, I don't know what I think about that.
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Speaker 1: That's a whole nother can of worms. But okay, but
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Speaker 1: I think about it. Go ahead, when common sense is
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Speaker 1: not employed and you just we've got to go buy policy.
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Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? This isn't the poster put up
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Speaker 1: about hey joined the Nazi Club, and it doesn't have
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Speaker 1: the school official stance, and you can put this up.
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Speaker 1: This is a child missing and it should have been
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Speaker 1: everywhere with no concern. Should I agree with you? And
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Speaker 1: there's gonna be plenty of time for finger pointing after
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Speaker 1: we find her. I'm just not buying this whole suicide thing,
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Speaker 1: Doctor Bethany Marshall, we need to shrink Nancy. Jump in, beth,
20:48
Speaker 1: I mean Nancy. You talked about seeing the picture of
20:51
Speaker 1: her and her family. She is gorgeous, beautiful, long brown hair,
20:57
Speaker 1: big eyes. This woman. I know you can't all if
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Speaker 1: somebody has a mental defect just from a picture. But
21:02
Speaker 1: she looks so intact. She's dressed beautifully, the car is
21:07
Speaker 1: well maintained. This is an eighteen year old who has
21:11
Speaker 1: the rest of her life in front of her. This
21:14
Speaker 1: is not a girl who's going to jump off the bridge.
21:16
Speaker 1: Even her belt perfectly matched, her pants and her top.
21:21
Speaker 1: She's completely well put together. She is not a suicidal
21:25
Speaker 1: young woman. Nancy. I just had a flashback to times
21:29
Speaker 1: when I was in my late teens and early twenties
21:31
Speaker 1: driving down the freeway and I would see a car
21:33
Speaker 1: pull up behind me and side of men leering and
21:36
Speaker 1: trying to follow me. It happens to young women all
21:40
Speaker 1: the time. And what do they do. They start looking
21:43
Speaker 1: for the nearest police station, or they start fumbling with
21:46
Speaker 1: their ways of a navigation and trying to find it
21:49
Speaker 1: a safe place to go. I don't know if somebody
21:51
Speaker 1: was in the car with her and that's the reason
21:53
Speaker 1: for the erratic driving, or if someone was following her,
21:56
Speaker 1: but just her beauty and the time of night made
21:59
Speaker 1: her a prime target. I would be curious was she
22:03
Speaker 1: using ways? What was the navigation system? What was she
22:07
Speaker 1: searching for that made her go back and forth? Was
22:09
Speaker 1: she looking for a safe haven? You know? To you
22:12
Speaker 1: electus to roscha crime online dot com? What can you
22:14
Speaker 1: tell us about? Did she put her home address in
22:18
Speaker 1: the nav she did? Like also didn't make sense to me,
22:20
Speaker 1: because she knew how to get home her mom's home address. Actually, yeah,
22:23
Speaker 1: so she she would know that. Although sometimes I like
22:28
Speaker 1: to put it in the NAP to see if I
22:30
Speaker 1: can beat my time home or something like that, in
22:32
Speaker 1: order to see how long how long the time of
22:34
Speaker 1: the day or night was this this was after midnight? Well,
22:38
Speaker 1: probably started about ten thirty at night and minute and
22:40
Speaker 1: then the car accident was after midnight, so Tuesday night
22:45
Speaker 1: when day, very very very early in the morning. No,
22:48
Speaker 1: she has no mental defect, Bethany at all. I'm looking
22:52
Speaker 1: at this other picture for her while we're talking. If
22:54
Speaker 1: her were wearing her little purple beanie hat. Just you know,
23:00
Speaker 1: she's so involved. This girl has no mental defense. She's
23:03
Speaker 1: not suicidal, nothing. But what can you tell me about
23:08
Speaker 1: the boyfriend? Alexis Terreschuk. Didn't she have a boyfriend? She
23:13
Speaker 1: did does have a boyfriend, and her family said that
23:17
Speaker 1: he was the last person to see her that night
23:20
Speaker 1: and that they were together. I guess they were in
23:22
Speaker 1: there maybe his dorm and I meaning he's a student
23:26
Speaker 1: at LSU and they got in an argument and he
23:29
Speaker 1: is the last person who has seen her alive. That
23:31
Speaker 1: is what her family had said. I assume at LSU,
23:35
Speaker 1: Gabrielle Clemens, it's blanketed with surveillance cameras, right, so we
23:40
Speaker 1: would know if she was the one that got into
23:42
Speaker 1: her car or somebody else got into her car, right, right.
23:46
Speaker 1: So ELSI frequently asks us to just identify people will
23:49
Speaker 1: get emails identify this person, which we did not get
23:53
Speaker 1: regarding her case. It actually took a good moment for
23:56
Speaker 1: them to send us something, which they have now. But no,
23:59
Speaker 1: so far we have not seen anything regarding her last
24:03
Speaker 1: moment to LSU, at least not to my knowledge. Do
24:05
Speaker 1: you know what was Gabrielle? No, I don't. But now
24:12
Speaker 1: gabriel used to be an RA, so she's also aware
24:15
Speaker 1: of the fact that you know, freshman are supposed are
24:18
Speaker 1: what is what Freshmos live on campus, so they're supposed
24:20
Speaker 1: to be correct. So freshman has to live on campus
24:24
Speaker 1: most of the time. Your ras are aware of, like
24:26
Speaker 1: if you're leaving, if you're going out of town, that's
24:28
Speaker 1: that was the job was to keep up with your residence.
24:31
Speaker 1: So it just yeah, Nancy, there there is a picture
24:36
Speaker 1: from well it hasn't been published, but I understand from
24:40
Speaker 1: her family that that's how they can describe exactly what
24:43
Speaker 1: she was wearing, that there's a there is video camera
24:45
Speaker 1: at the dorms that she was leaving, and so that
24:48
Speaker 1: they can see that she was wearing kind of an
24:50
Speaker 1: LSU purple sweatshirt and leggings. And I think legging, sweatshirt.
24:55
Speaker 1: What did you say? I want to say pink slippers,
24:58
Speaker 1: but maybe maybe you know, just like kind of shoes
25:01
Speaker 1: and then her hair was in a bun. But the
25:03
Speaker 1: photograph has not been released, but there is I believe
25:07
Speaker 1: her family had seen the photo. Guys, the search is
25:10
Speaker 1: intensifying for a missing lsu CO and her name is
25:13
Speaker 1: Corey Gouthier. Her car found abandoned rear ended on a
25:16
Speaker 1: bridge over the Mississippi River. She was leaving from her
25:19
Speaker 1: dorm area to go to her mom's house that night.
25:23
Speaker 1: She has not been seen since, last seen with the
25:26
Speaker 1: boy last known to be with the boyfriend, they have
25:28
Speaker 1: an argument, she leaves. This girl in no way was suicidal.
25:33
Speaker 1: Why was the car going backwards and fords and backwards
25:36
Speaker 1: and fords before it got to where it finally stopped?
25:39
Speaker 1: The airbags deployed? Is their DNA on them? To Tony Wade,
25:43
Speaker 1: commander of the Cajun Search and Rescue Team, his team
25:48
Speaker 1: in charge of the search, I understand this dog, this
25:51
Speaker 1: K nine has alerted twice during the search for Corey Gouthier.
25:56
Speaker 1: What do you know? Well, that's about all I know
25:58
Speaker 1: about that right now. And I know we got all
26:00
Speaker 1: that some dogs in the separate team had alerted on
26:04
Speaker 1: a spot of the river. They backed them off on
26:06
Speaker 1: the spot and went back and the dogs alerted again.
26:11
Speaker 1: You know, there's there's so many people missing in that area.
26:14
Speaker 1: It's one of the things that concerns me. We still
26:16
Speaker 1: got two duck hunters that have been missing for months now.
26:21
Speaker 1: I don't know. I trusted dogs. What a dog tells
26:23
Speaker 1: me there's something there. I trust that that. But after
26:27
Speaker 1: the dogs are learning, it's just it's so difficult to
26:30
Speaker 1: try and do any kind of recovery. You know, they
26:32
Speaker 1: put cement slabs in the Mississippi River to help fight erosion.
26:37
Speaker 1: They have cables on those, so you can't necessarily drag
26:40
Speaker 1: like you would do for a normal drawing case because
26:42
Speaker 1: you tang them up from the cables. And putting divers
26:45
Speaker 1: in the water there is extremely risky because of the
26:48
Speaker 1: risk of entanglement. It's just the Mississippi. We have searched
26:52
Speaker 1: on the Mississippi River for for years now, and it's
26:55
Speaker 1: just it's one of the most challenging places that I've
26:58
Speaker 1: ever been to do it. To offer to search just
27:00
Speaker 1: just betremely difficult. It's extremely dangerous. Crime stories with Nancy Grace.
27:17
Speaker 1: The guys were talking about a missing girl just eighteen.
27:19
Speaker 1: LSU freshman Corey Gauthier dale her cell phone. Don't you
27:24
Speaker 1: know a girl this age she had thought of suicide,
27:29
Speaker 1: would have sent a suicide text. You know that I do.
27:35
Speaker 1: And and one of the things that concerns me is
27:39
Speaker 1: that the troopers went by and they didn't stop. And
27:43
Speaker 1: this is now the scene of an abduction or a
27:46
Speaker 1: homicide right there, and so there's no effort to check
27:50
Speaker 1: the railings for anything. And it may be that the
27:54
Speaker 1: accident that happened was only the second accident, not the
27:58
Speaker 1: first accident, because when you have airbags deployed, that indicates
28:02
Speaker 1: something has struck the front of the car. And apparently,
28:06
Speaker 1: based on the testimony of this individual driving the car,
28:10
Speaker 1: he hit the rear of her car, which should not
28:12
Speaker 1: deploy the airbags. So, you know, the doc brings up
28:16
Speaker 1: something really interesting, you know, it is that this girl's
28:19
Speaker 1: put together, the likelihood of her committing suicide is minimal,
28:24
Speaker 1: to be sure, and your idea that someone else was
28:27
Speaker 1: in the car with her or she was being followed
28:30
Speaker 1: seems to be more accurate. Yeah, the Nancy, can I
28:33
Speaker 1: jump in f Also, she missed a doctor's appointment. That's
28:38
Speaker 1: relevant to me because that's a future event that she's
28:41
Speaker 1: sent and she's set in stone. That's not somebody's suicidal.
28:45
Speaker 1: The other thing is a snapchat she sent her brother
28:48
Speaker 1: at midnight. What happened between that snapchat at midnight and
28:53
Speaker 1: being on the bridge at one That doesn't sound suicidal. Again,
28:58
Speaker 1: she's sent in social tags, she's I can doubt disappointment.
29:01
Speaker 1: She's got class, she's got work. But about that doctor, Bethany,
29:05
Speaker 1: she's right, Well, I agree this woman had. This young
29:08
Speaker 1: woman had a future ahead of her. I wondered what
29:11
Speaker 1: the doctor's appointment was for and what was going on
29:14
Speaker 1: with her health? Was she pregnant with something going on
29:18
Speaker 1: with the boyfriend towards her? But Nancy, there's another big
29:22
Speaker 1: story hole here, and I'm waiting for somebody to fill
29:25
Speaker 1: it in. Was there anything going on on the LSU
29:29
Speaker 1: campus that other young women had reported, you know, a predator,
29:34
Speaker 1: somebody coming onto campus who shouldn't have been there, stalking
29:38
Speaker 1: the women. Did this young woman have a stalker? Has
29:42
Speaker 1: anybody looked at her online profile, her Twitter, her Instagram,
29:47
Speaker 1: you know, her emails to see if anybody was preoccupied
29:51
Speaker 1: with her. You know, eighteen year old young women who
29:55
Speaker 1: travel predictable routes and are in college are at a
30:01
Speaker 1: very high risk for abduction, sexual abduction off the side.
30:06
Speaker 1: So there's so many more avenues to explore the scene
30:09
Speaker 1: of the crime. Potentially, it's not just on the bridge,
30:13
Speaker 1: that it may have started months or weeks earlier, with
30:16
Speaker 1: some other relationship or something that was going on in
30:19
Speaker 1: her life, or where she was being victimized somewhere. I
30:23
Speaker 1: actually have a point on that one that's actually rather
30:25
Speaker 1: not actually that's the whole reason Gabrielle actually came home.
30:29
Speaker 1: And we're not making this about gabriel at all, but
30:31
Speaker 1: but Gabby Gabbie had an experience out in LSU just
30:34
Speaker 1: in February. Every I just go ahead and just give
30:36
Speaker 1: the right. So I was driving across the street I
30:40
Speaker 1: regularly drive. A group of white males and a truck
30:43
Speaker 1: next to me, asking me to wind down my window.
30:46
Speaker 1: I do where They're just asking me questions and at
30:49
Speaker 1: the end they yelled that they're coming for me and
30:52
Speaker 1: proceed to follow me. I was driving to a friend's
30:55
Speaker 1: house at the time, in which I switched my direction.
30:57
Speaker 1: I said I should just go home. It's about nine
30:59
Speaker 1: o'clock at night. They follow me. I take a different
31:02
Speaker 1: route home. I'm putting backstreets. There still behind me. Eventually
31:05
Speaker 1: I duck off into a CBS parking lot and I
31:10
Speaker 1: just turned off my car lights and sit there. See
31:12
Speaker 1: the car drive next to on the street next to me.
31:15
Speaker 1: They don't see me. They keep going to which I
31:17
Speaker 1: go into the CBS, called my father and have a
31:19
Speaker 1: worker there escort me out. So that was I reported
31:23
Speaker 1: it to LSU police pretty recently, actually not at the time,
31:26
Speaker 1: but did still report it and basically came home within
31:30
Speaker 1: a week of it happening. It was enough for me
31:33
Speaker 1: to just decide I didn't need to be out there anymore.
31:35
Speaker 1: So if something like that did happen to her, God forbid,
31:39
Speaker 1: but I could I could understand that I could see
31:42
Speaker 1: that route happening. You know what, my Gabrielle, you just
31:45
Speaker 1: put chills down my arms. Kirby, after all year gone
31:52
Speaker 1: through to raise this child, to think somebody would come
31:55
Speaker 1: along and try to get her like that. I'm just wondering,
32:00
Speaker 1: what if anything like that happened with Corey just and
32:05
Speaker 1: that's what that's what concerned me, because when she when
32:07
Speaker 1: they gave the route of the car and how I
32:09
Speaker 1: was tracked those Gabby was, you know, telling me, you know, sad,
32:11
Speaker 1: this is what's going on. And so I was like, well,
32:13
Speaker 1: what did she do? And then she explained the route.
32:15
Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, that's that sounds like somebody that's
32:18
Speaker 1: trying to avoid someone. And uh, I mean I thought,
32:21
Speaker 1: I thought with the back and forth and the circling
32:25
Speaker 1: and guys, take a listen to our friend Scottie Hunter WAFB.
32:30
Speaker 1: As the search intensifies in the air, on land, and
32:33
Speaker 1: in the water. The biggest question that remains for the
32:35
Speaker 1: Nine News investigators is why Moore wasn't done the moment
32:39
Speaker 1: someone else crashed into go Chase car early Tuesday. The
32:42
Speaker 1: man who slammed into go Chase car on the bridge
32:44
Speaker 1: said nobody was inside when he went to check the car,
32:47
Speaker 1: and when they swear on cut lanes also was a
32:49
Speaker 1: part car. So I locked up my brakes because it
32:52
Speaker 1: was either the white car or the eighteen willing. According
32:55
Speaker 1: to police, her car was left running on the bridge.
32:58
Speaker 1: Once officers got to the scene, they found Gocha's personal belongings,
33:01
Speaker 1: including her phone inside, and they had her car towed
33:04
Speaker 1: to a junkyard. But to you, I'll like to jump in.
33:09
Speaker 1: This is why crime scenes are so important. Was the
33:13
Speaker 1: car in drive or park when it was rear ended?
33:16
Speaker 1: I mean, those are important, critical factors that are lost
33:20
Speaker 1: over time. When you tow a car out of there,
33:22
Speaker 1: that all changes and we don't have that information because
33:25
Speaker 1: the trooper didn't stop and assess whether or not somebody
33:29
Speaker 1: was hurt or in distress on the bridge the first
33:32
Speaker 1: time it was c you know what, You're right, Commander
33:35
Speaker 1: Tony Way. That adds into the intricacies of this search,
33:41
Speaker 1: all the missteps at the beginning. I understand that you
33:45
Speaker 1: were also using drones and helicopters in the search. Yes,
33:50
Speaker 1: there are multiple drones up. Helicopters have been involved in
33:54
Speaker 1: the search. It's just widespread. And again, how things are
33:59
Speaker 1: handled at the beginning, the faster you can get these
34:01
Speaker 1: resources on scene, that's just you increase your odds of
34:06
Speaker 1: finding something. You know, I think this was misshandled from
34:09
Speaker 1: the very beginning. You know that troopers should have stopped, uh,
34:13
Speaker 1: you know, And I agree with the evidence of the
34:15
Speaker 1: crime scene that all of that has changed. Not the
34:18
Speaker 1: call was removed. I agree with that one hundred percent.
34:20
Speaker 1: But as a search aspect, it just makes it very
34:22
Speaker 1: difficult when when first we're not giving information and then
34:25
Speaker 1: we have to wait several days before we're even allowed
34:28
Speaker 1: to do anything. Um. I just I just think across
34:32
Speaker 1: the nation things need to change like this. You know
34:35
Speaker 1: that there's probably a lot of people out there that
34:36
Speaker 1: could have been found alive that that weren't because everything
34:40
Speaker 1: was held up, you know, through policy or procedure. I
34:43
Speaker 1: think those policies and procedures need to be looked at
34:45
Speaker 1: and and changed accordingly. You know what, Tony White, I
34:51
Speaker 1: agree with you, And there have been so many missteps
34:54
Speaker 1: in this case. I hardly know where to start. First
34:57
Speaker 1: of all them not uh police law enforcement not doing
35:01
Speaker 1: anything about the car on the bridge. How can you
35:04
Speaker 1: not notice that it's running and the airbags are deployed.
35:07
Speaker 1: Second of all the posters being taken down. Third of
35:10
Speaker 1: all acting like there's no urgency, as we see so
35:13
Speaker 1: often when young girls go missing, they immediately think they're
35:17
Speaker 1: a quote runaway. Everything has gone wrong so far until
35:22
Speaker 1: the Cajun Coastguard has gotten involved. Guys, I want you
35:26
Speaker 1: to take a listen to our friends at WA f
35:28
Speaker 1: B LaVar co Chase says he only found out his
35:31
Speaker 1: daughter was missing after his wife couldn't get a hold
35:34
Speaker 1: of her Wednesday. Called me multiple times and that's highly unusual,
35:41
Speaker 1: and she sent me a text that my daughter wasn't
35:44
Speaker 1: answering a phone. So I immediately started calling trying to
35:48
Speaker 1: contact Then I got nothing. The one step police did
35:51
Speaker 1: not take was notifying the owner of the abandoned car
35:54
Speaker 1: once he found out she was missing. Her dad says
35:56
Speaker 1: he raced to bad and Urge. I left Lapplause from
35:59
Speaker 1: where and I came to Benouge and that's kind of
36:02
Speaker 1: when the process got started. BRPD says their main focus
36:06
Speaker 1: was to move the car off the bridge to prevent
36:08
Speaker 1: any other crashes. In a statement, they told WAFB in parts,
36:12
Speaker 1: the registered owner of the unoccupied vehicle was not contacted,
36:16
Speaker 1: but this investigation remained ongoing, from taking down the missing
36:21
Speaker 1: posters to not noticing a car running over the Mississippi
36:24
Speaker 1: with the airbags deployed, to not noticing the rear ending
36:28
Speaker 1: to not contacting the owner of the car her dad
36:32
Speaker 1: when it was first towed. Everything seemingly has gone sideways
36:37
Speaker 1: in this case. Is there a chance we can bring
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