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"New Civil War? (or still the First One?) (Friday December 12 2025, Hour 1) · First Thing Today with Joe Thomas

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  Speaker 1: What do you think about the problem on a need
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  Speaker 1: to know basis, because you need to know the first
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  Speaker 1: thing today.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I said, definitely, I feel we have too many dopes.
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  Speaker 3: You word said to steal me step.
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  Speaker 4: You have a day at least for work. When the
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  Speaker 4: sun comes up, drops a pet to scoom in the way.
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  Speaker 5: Joe is eying a dream.
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  Speaker 4: All the treasure is out and needs.
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  Speaker 6: No one that Joe's allies smile.
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  Speaker 7: He only aids.
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  Speaker 8: Joe, thank you for allowing me to be of service
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  Speaker 8: to you each and every morning. How we do it
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  Speaker 8: is I tell you what went on last night. I'll
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  Speaker 8: tell you what I see in and amongst the evidence
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  Speaker 8: hear from you as to what it's like where you are,
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  Speaker 8: how it's impacting. You call it a whistle blow or
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  Speaker 8: hotline if you will, it's what are the local police
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  Speaker 8: all call it crime stoppers and it's all I mean.
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  Speaker 8: It's a slow moving and crime. But I want to
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  Speaker 8: begin this Friday morning because dear friends of mine are libertarians,
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  Speaker 8: and I know a lot of libertarians listen to the
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  Speaker 8: program because we don't roll just like a spokesperson for
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  Speaker 8: the administration or against the administration, depending on who it is.
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  Speaker 8: We try to take each story at face value and
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  Speaker 8: lay it out there. So when we go to places
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  Speaker 8: travel out to the affair and you know, or from
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  Speaker 8: a lot of the places we hit. Now so many
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  Speaker 8: more places getting to bask in the amplitude or frequency
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  Speaker 8: modulation goodness this show creates, and I've tweaked them frequently
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  Speaker 8: by saying that Donald Trump is technically, if you look
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  Speaker 8: at policy after policy over the first four years and
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  Speaker 8: eleven months, is the first American libertarian president. And it's
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  Speaker 8: and it always gets the eye twitching. It's like Inspector
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  Speaker 8: Dreyfus and the Pink Panthers. It just makes the synapses
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  Speaker 8: fire in odd ways for them. And to be fair,
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  Speaker 8: will do something that Barack Obama didn't have the intestical
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  Speaker 8: fortitude to do. He just said, well, told them the
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  Speaker 8: police not to rust you for it. How about that.
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  Speaker 8: Trump's actually going to try to take it off the
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  Speaker 8: schedule one list. And there you go, Libertarians up, I
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  Speaker 8: see the eye twitch. You can't just I love making
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  Speaker 8: the eye twitch of the liberty Trump.
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  Speaker 3: What happened to Ron Paul?
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  Speaker 8: Well, Ron Paul did across the finish line, and Donald
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  Speaker 8: Trump's the one doing it. I'm sorry, I just I can't.
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  Speaker 8: I just tell you the stories. Your reaction to them
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  Speaker 8: is yours. Aside from that, though, On this Friday morning,
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  Speaker 8: First Things, twenty House Republicans joined Democrats and the final
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  Speaker 8: vote on a bill that would bring a reversal to
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  Speaker 8: President Trump's executive order blocking most federal unions Thursday. The
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  Speaker 8: bill was led by Democratic Congressman Jared Golden, who got
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  Speaker 8: a vote on the measure by following.
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  Speaker 8: The bill, called the Protect America's Workforce Act, is aimed
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  Speaker 8: at repealing a March twenty twenty five executive order by Trump.
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  Speaker 8: It's not given a lot of success in the Senate,
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  Speaker 8: where it has to go next, and certainly the President
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  Speaker 8: might veto it, but it puts a lot of people
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  Speaker 1: The first thing today on the Talk Media Network by
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  Speaker 1: Joe Thomas see.
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  Speaker 3: I knew this would happen.
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  Speaker 8: Anyone who's been associated with this program since twenty sixteen
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  Speaker 8: twenty seventeen has heard me say that the movement get
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  Speaker 8: rid of our Civil War monuments is based on an
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  Speaker 8: attempt to recreate that. I mean, these are the real
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  Speaker 8: Civil War and actors. I mean, this goes back before
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  Speaker 8: the fund and frolic of our Summer of Discontent in
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  Speaker 8: twenty seventeen.
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  Speaker 3: Really the movement began in the South.
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  Speaker 8: Twenty fourteen, twenty fifteen, we had it in our flagship
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  Speaker 8: city city councilor Caucasian woman said she wanted to get
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  Speaker 8: rid of the Civil War memorials in the city of
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  Speaker 8: Charlottesville because she needed something to campaign on. Then after
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  Speaker 8: the shooting in Charleston, South Carolina, a horrific one where
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  Speaker 8: the guy just real it's a racist goon, goes in
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  Speaker 8: sits through an entire church service in a black church,
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  Speaker 8: and this shoots everybody. And then you know, you want
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  Speaker 8: to talk about a sweet treat. I mean, you start
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  Speaker 8: meeting his family members, that killer. You know, he might
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  Speaker 8: have been the most level headed one in the family.
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  Speaker 8: He listened to his sister and dad, And I mean,
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  Speaker 8: these people, you could bring them back to eighteen sixty
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  Speaker 8: and they still would be considered like out there. But
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  Speaker 8: put them in South Carolina in eighteen sixty and people
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  Speaker 8: who were like, yeah, these guys whoa extreme. And after that,
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  Speaker 8: a black man on Charlottesville City Council, in an effort
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  Speaker 8: like just like his Caucasian woman predecessor, to make himself notorious,
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  Speaker 8: told the press, knowing that given its proximity to Washington, DC,
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  Speaker 8: that somebody in the local TV station seeking fame and
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  Speaker 8: notoriety would send the story up to the DC Bureau
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  Speaker 8: and he'd get some national recognition. And thus begins this
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  Speaker 8: conflagration of mania trying to tear down Civil War memorials.
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  Speaker 8: And I warned then, and I'm sitting here today looking
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  Speaker 8: at Republicans announcing that the civil war has begun. Mike Gaskill,
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  Speaker 8: Senator from Indiana declaring amongst yesterday's vote on the redistricting,
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  Speaker 8: that surrogates are being used in this civil war, the
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  Speaker 8: Second Civil War. And first off, there's nothing civil about it.
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  Speaker 8: But what civil war means is civilians will be fighting.
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  Speaker 8: This isn't a war that is just sanctioned to military members.
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  Speaker 8: You could argue that if that's the case, the American
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  Speaker 8: battle to Oustar occupying British forces in the eighteenth century,
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  Speaker 8: where I know it's worthier, but it's actually more accurate
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  Speaker 8: to what we were doing. We were ousting an occupying army.
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  Speaker 8: Pardon me, I had some pepper on my breakfast, and
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  Speaker 8: there is a stray grain of pepper in between a
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  Speaker 8: couple of vocal courts, and I apologize for that. So
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  Speaker 8: Indiana State Senator Mike Gaskell from Pendleton declared, quote, a
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  Speaker 8: second Civil war has already started in the United States,
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  Speaker 8: and he urged his colleagues to back the unsuccessful state
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  Speaker 8: re districting push. I will submit to you that the
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  Speaker 8: second US Civil War has already started. They're just using surrogates.
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  Speaker 8: I submit to you that this is accurate. Now, the
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  Speaker 8: redistricting plan in Indiana failed as nine Republicans abandoned the
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  Speaker 8: party push to redraw the districts. We can put a
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  Speaker 8: pin in how this all gets avoided if we don't
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  Speaker 8: allow the racists at the end of the last Civil
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  Speaker 8: War to write the very permanent Reapportionment Act that wound
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  Speaker 8: up getting passed in nineteen twenty nine. Because it was
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  Speaker 8: the Dixiecrats who are afraid because they had noticed these
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  Speaker 8: black communities were gaining in prosperity. See the efforts that
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  Speaker 8: the Dixiecrats made in Oklahoma.
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  Speaker 3: So what is the Civil war? What is this civil
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  Speaker 3: war over the last one?
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  Speaker 8: If you want a fair and honest accounting, was at
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  Speaker 8: first over states refusing to decriminalize let's say, say, being
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  Speaker 8: a free black man.
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  Speaker 3: I use that phrase just because of the marijuana.
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  Speaker 8: Stuff, but because states wouldn't drop the fixation, and they
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  Speaker 8: hadn't since the founding of the nation, South Carolina being
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  Speaker 8: one of the most notable ones not wanting to give
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  Speaker 8: up the slave trade. Legislative attempts had been made prior
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  Speaker 8: to the First Civil War to address this, including the
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  Speaker 8: option of elevating slavery to a constitutionally protected right, which
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  Speaker 8: the Dixiecrats turned down because they knew that in the
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  Speaker 8: details of the Constitutional Amendment was that it was going
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  Speaker 8: to be protected only in the states where it currently existed,
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  Speaker 8: and that any once all these new territories became states,
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  Speaker 8: they would have it quoted down faster than you can
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  Speaker 8: say prohibition. And then when the Southern States took their
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  Speaker 8: legislative option of seceding from this union of the United
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  Speaker 8: States of America, facing a loss of more than fifty
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  Speaker 8: percent of their federal tax collis, the Northern States invaded
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  Speaker 8: the Southern States to get that back. So is anything
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  Speaker 8: like that happening around here today? Or is this just
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  Speaker 8: two political parties who have lost any gravity with their
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  Speaker 8: marginal bases out at the fringes and have to demand
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  Speaker 8: that anyone who stands in the way of an agenda,
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  Speaker 8: which is a fraudulent one in the first place, but
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  Speaker 8: nobody wants to talk about that is your enemy and
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  Speaker 8: trying to essentially kill you, and therefore you must take
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  Speaker 8: up some semblance of arms against them. And this civil war,
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  Speaker 8: which is being fought in many different ways, was laid
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  Speaker 8: at the feet of Democrat voters.
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  Speaker 7: Filling.
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  Speaker 8: cessation that was driven by slavery, the.
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  Speaker 8: Stop check yourself before you wreck yourself. If you parse
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  Speaker 8: Commonwealth of Virginia to legislatively end slavery before we were
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  Speaker 8: Congress and you can read the original draft of the
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  Speaker 8: Declaration of Independence, just a beautiful, eloquent treaty on slavery
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  Speaker 8: and what it was, and why it existed, and why
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  Speaker 3: The Jefferson was a racist.
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  Speaker 8: People need to just stick that in their pipe. And well,
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  Speaker 3: I suppose suppository.
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  Speaker 3: What is the goal today?
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  Speaker 8: If this Mecasco guy in Indiana is correct and we're
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  Speaker 8: people fighting for something. Who is fighting for what? We're
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  Speaker 8: fighting to bring back slavery? The soft core servitude of
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  Speaker 8: an agenda that says that provided you do exactly as
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  Speaker 8: room and board, which was just to be mean spirited.
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  Speaker 8: Part of what the Southern States argument against ending slavery
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  Speaker 8: and that they paid to feed them, and that they
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  Speaker 8: had paid and Jefferson even acknowledges that the slave population,
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  Speaker 8: be freed with the stroke of a pen, which is
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  Speaker 8: what happened, there would be great acrimony because they would
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  Speaker 8: be cut adrift without any source of income in which
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  Speaker 8: Booth to end that one. And I remind my friends
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  Speaker 8: when men named Johnson held the office of president. So
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  Speaker 8: there was this argument that you have to acknowledge then,
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• 45:30
  Speaker 8: as sub human Indians, Africans, Orientals, you name it, Asians.
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  Speaker 8: I'm sorry, didn't mean not trying to tweak. These were
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  Speaker 8: less than the cultured and civilized Western Europeans. And so
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  Speaker 8: it is dangerous because that's not Western civilization. Western civilization
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  Speaker 8: is born from constant and Christianity and owns its roots
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  Speaker 8: to Greece and comes through Locke, who brings all of
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  Speaker 8: this together as a rebuke of the elites of Europe
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  Speaker 8: at the time, who saw sub human races that were
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  Speaker 8: little more than farm animals that you.
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  Speaker 3: Could talk to. And it's just horrific.
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  Speaker 8: But Locke very clearly establishes that the rule of law
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  Speaker 8: requires demands that one person not have sovereignty over another,
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  Speaker 8: that the ownership of people was an abomination to humanity itself.
• 46:47
  Speaker 8: But this, if this contention that there is a modern
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  Speaker 8: American civil war going on, I don't think it's a
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  Speaker 8: new one. I think it's a reconflagration of the old one.
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  Speaker 8: Joel was being on the with us with a reaction
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  Speaker 8: to that yours as well at four three four eight
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  Speaker 8: eight two four two one seven or email JT in
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  Speaker 8: the Morning radio at gmail dot com. So what do
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  Speaker 8: you think, Joel? Is this just the Dixie Krantz trying
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  Speaker 8: to get the band back together?
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  Speaker 13: I don't know. I I just wanted to say this.
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  Speaker 13: I'll answer your question in a second, but I'm gonna
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  Speaker 13: put this all together. It's going to kind of sound
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  Speaker 13: weird at first. But remember when you're a little kid
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  Speaker 13: and that you play that game Peekaboo, you I can
• 47:30
  Speaker 13: see you, but you can't see me. Right, That's what
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  Speaker 13: the That's what the Democrats are trying to do. That
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  Speaker 13: use shields like the media that you now, they're using
• 47:39
  Speaker 13: all the all the social medias and possibly AI and
• 47:43
  Speaker 13: back when I traveled early as a nurse. This is
• 47:45
  Speaker 13: gonna sound weird. I'll put it all together. When I
• 47:48
  Speaker 13: first traveled as a nurse, when my first years of nursing,
• 47:51
  Speaker 13: I went to UH I was in South Carolina. I
• 47:54
  Speaker 13: went to Charleston and I went to the history museum
• 47:57
  Speaker 13: there and I said, yeah, I said, this is a
• 47:59
  Speaker 13: civil war.
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  Speaker 3: He is no son.
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  Speaker 13: There was a guy saying, like, just like Foghorn, Leghorn,
• 48:03
  Speaker 13: he has no son. It was a war of Northern aggression.
• 48:06
  Speaker 13: But see see the Democrats. The Democrats try to change
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  Speaker 13: words and they use opportunities to affect different groups of people. Now,
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  Speaker 13: I think the majority of the people that this is affecting.
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  Speaker 13: And you have to remember back during the Civil War,
• 48:21
  Speaker 13: women could vote, but the majority of Democrat voters now
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  Speaker 13: are young white women or women between the ages of
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  Speaker 13: eighteen to twenty nine, and they're trying to captivate those
• 48:31
  Speaker 13: groups and put it in it in perspective like, oh,
• 48:35
  Speaker 13: your children, all your family is going to be affected.
• 48:40
  Speaker 13: And today's slavery is today's illegal aliens that we call it,
• 48:45
  Speaker 13: and it's written in federal law, but to them, it's
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  Speaker 13: their workers. And in comparison to what's happening today, as
• 48:54
  Speaker 13: you wanted to say, is are the Dixiecrafts doing it today? Yeah,
• 48:57
  Speaker 13: the Democrats are doing it today because they're making it
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  Speaker 13: look like the illegal aliens, their slaves are you know,
• 49:05
  Speaker 13: their workers, their their potential voters are being lost. But
• 49:09
  Speaker 13: it's totally disrupting the land. And that's what happened back
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  Speaker 13: in the Civil War is those were their workers, those
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  Speaker 13: were their manufacturers. Like you said, they didn't believe at
• 49:21
  Speaker 13: it like they weren't. They didn't look at it like
• 49:23
  Speaker 13: they were human beings. They didn't look at it like
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  Speaker 13: they had a soul, or or they had families, or
• 49:28
  Speaker 13: they could be able to be educated. But if you
• 49:31
  Speaker 13: go back to the Revolutionary War, there was a lady.
• 49:35
  Speaker 13: She was a slave, and I guess she eventually was freed,
• 49:38
  Speaker 13: but she was actually a message carrier for for for
• 49:42
  Speaker 13: the war for Washington, and they believed that a lot
• 49:44
  Speaker 13: of those messages that made it to the troops to
• 49:47
  Speaker 13: Washington provided provided intelligence that brought Washington's troops to certain
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  Speaker 13: points that actually killed the British troops.
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  Speaker 8: I forget her name, but you know, one of the
• 49:59
  Speaker 8: historical mark workers in our in our founding was that
• 50:06
  Speaker 8: the British saw a black woman and said, well, she
• 50:10
  Speaker 8: can't be doing anything important. And we used their euro
• 50:15
  Speaker 8: trash elitism against them because here in this country we
• 50:20
  Speaker 8: were already trying to work through what was it called.
• 50:25
  Speaker 8: It was called sharecropping, sharecropping. But also many states had
• 50:31
  Speaker 8: said now we aren't going to own slaves anymore. And
• 50:35
  Speaker 8: the black community in the colonies was in much better
• 50:39
  Speaker 8: shape than the black communities in some of the Bahamanian
• 50:43
  Speaker 8: colonies of Britain, Jamaica, places like that, where it was
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  Speaker 8: still at that point horrific, and so we had already
• 50:53
  Speaker 8: moved towards it. But my point being is the and
• 50:56
  Speaker 8: I will add another group to your point, it's the
• 51:02
  Speaker 8: entitlement population.
• 51:04
  Speaker 3: It's this.
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  Speaker 8: Poor where the alices of America, not the Karens, the alices,
• 51:11
  Speaker 8: the asset limited income. I forget what ALICE stands for,
• 51:17
  Speaker 8: per se. But it's the working poor, the working poor
• 51:20
  Speaker 8: who need some subsidy for their electric bill, they need
• 51:24
  Speaker 8: some subsidy for their housing bills. They're spending fifty to
• 51:29
  Speaker 8: sixty percent of what they can find as income on housing,
• 51:33
  Speaker 8: So the government creates these entitlements for them. These are
• 51:38
  Speaker 8: the new slave population, that blue collar, no collar workforce
• 51:45
  Speaker 8: that Lyndon Johnson really started this march towards with his
• 51:49
  Speaker 8: quote great society and you're only allowed to stay on
• 51:54
  Speaker 8: it as long as you fill out the paperwork correctly
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  Speaker 8: and do the things that the government says you're supposed
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  Speaker 8: to do. And it's such a setup, Joel, that we
• 52:05
  Speaker 8: need to realize that if there is this civil war,
• 52:09
  Speaker 8: which I don't necessarily disagree with the premise, it's the
• 52:12
  Speaker 8: old one just coming back at us with some new faces.
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  Speaker 13: Right, history repeats itself. And if you those people that
• 52:20
  Speaker 13: wanted to destroy statues will go to the capitol. Isn't
• 52:24
  Speaker 13: there a statue on top of the Capitol that was
• 52:27
  Speaker 13: designed by actually designed by a slave, a free slave.
• 52:30
  Speaker 3: Oh, I forget the story of that Yeah, you're right.
• 52:33
  Speaker 13: Why why did why didn't they tear that one down?
• 52:35
  Speaker 13: You know, good stuff, And at.
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  Speaker 8: Some point somebody's going to ask me how your job
• 52:42
  Speaker 8: interview went yesterday. But we're up against the news here,
• 52:45
  Speaker 8: so maybe tell me off airon I'll transmit the news
• 52:48
  Speaker 8: to those who are concerned.
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