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Thank you John Biondolillo of BCK Real Estate for joining me this morning on AIRED OUT to talk life, community, real estate and much more! · Aired Out

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  Speaker 2: of the day Yesterday to kind of get the Actually,
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  Speaker 2: good last night. Weather. Well, here's what we have. We
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  Speaker 2: have kind of a dodgy morning. Depending on where you are,
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  Speaker 2: little spring snow. The further south you go, like Wyndham
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  Speaker 2: the potential for some freezing stuff to mix in, whether
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  Speaker 2: little dustin, no complaints. Now off and on, snow showers again.
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  Speaker 2: Thirty seven for the daytime high today tonight thirty one.
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  Speaker 2: Still some snow showers, some breaks in it, and then
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  Speaker 2: they'll come back and then tomorrow a cloudy one, forty
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  Speaker 2: degrees looking ahead. John Beyondolillo is sitting right here next
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  Speaker 2: to me this morning. Good morning, my friend.
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  Speaker 3: How are you? Good morning, j D. I'm great, Thank
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  Speaker 3: you you.
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  Speaker 2: I'm happy to see you, buddy, I really am. You know,
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  Speaker 2: I was thinking about you this morning as I was
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  Speaker 2: driving in, and I'm like, here's a guy that you
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  Speaker 2: do so much. Buddy. There's like you're passionate about kids,
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  Speaker 2: You've you've coached stuff, You've just been all through our community.
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  Speaker 2: I'm wondering, do you still have your I'm assuming that
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  Speaker 2: you do still have your pilot's license. I do, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you do. Might you take hold this this fat old
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  Speaker 2: fella and we'll run up and take a buzz around,
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  Speaker 2: uh camel some point of these days. Well, I don't
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  Speaker 2: know about me doing what I have to do. We
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  Speaker 2: can probably make that up in for a room in
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  Speaker 2: there for me.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Now when you when are you going to be flying again?
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  Speaker 3: When?
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  Speaker 2: When? Notice?
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  Speaker 3: I went? I went with up with Bill Kotch and
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  Speaker 3: his plane just the other day. It was beautiful last day,
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  Speaker 3: last Sunday.
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  Speaker 2: Wow, where'd you go?
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  Speaker 3: We just flew up to like Morrisville and you know,
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  Speaker 3: over Mountain Mansfield and yeah, that type of thing is good.
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  Speaker 2: Are you going to be getting another plane? Is it
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  Speaker 2: in the carts?
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  Speaker 3: I don't know. It's too hard to say.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, but you're going to maintain the license though?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah? See yeah, so there's hope. Yeah. I'm busy though,
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  Speaker 3: I don't have that much time to fly.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know what do you do in these days?
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  Speaker 2: Tell us about everything that you're up to.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I've been traveling a lot, a lot. I just
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  Speaker 3: just got back. I spent a week with my mom
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  Speaker 3: and Florida. Yep, just turned eighty eight. So wow. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Since COVID, she hasn't really gotten a chance to really
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  Speaker 3: go go south. So last year Marsia and I took
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  Speaker 3: her out to Palm Springs for a week. And this
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  Speaker 3: year she went to Florida with me for a week
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  Speaker 3: and it was good. So done that doing things with
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  Speaker 3: my kids. I was in Washington, DC. My daughter had
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  Speaker 3: a competition in law competition down there, and been to
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  Speaker 3: New York for some of my son's openings. I didn't
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  Speaker 3: didn't get to go to the his London opening A
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  Speaker 3: White Rose because that's the week I was in Florida
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  Speaker 3: with my mom.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, so she'll be busy. Show picture that on
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  Speaker 2: the screen right now. There he is with the with
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  Speaker 2: the team. Uh what that's really impressive what he's doing. Man,
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  Speaker 2: Look at this.
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  Speaker 3: It is I mean he's you know, he's got one
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  Speaker 3: Tony Award and NAK would hopefully get another one this
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  Speaker 3: year for our town.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and that was in New York City, New York City.
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  Speaker 3: Jim Parsons was the lead in it, did a great job,
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  Speaker 3: and Zoey Deutsch was in it. Richard Thomas. For those
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  Speaker 3: of us old enough to remember the Waltons.
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  Speaker 2: I don't. I don't remember the Waltons. Okay, Walton's what Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that's that's that's really cool man. And and look at this.
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  Speaker 2: Did he And he's been to London before, He's he's
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  Speaker 2: done some stuff in London. Does he love it there?
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  Speaker 3: I think he likes to travel. He loves New York City. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I'm good for a couple of days in New York
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  Speaker 3: and then I'm ready to get back at the lot.
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  Speaker 3: So he you know, he he when everybody was coming
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  Speaker 3: up here during COVID and prices were depressed on there,
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  Speaker 3: he bought a condo. So he's right in midtown. So
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  Speaker 3: he loves it.
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  Speaker 2: Wow. And how old is he?
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  Speaker 3: Just turned twenty nine?
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  Speaker 2: Good for him?
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  Speaker 3: Man?
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  Speaker 2: Wow? What about Tory? See you were saying she was
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  Speaker 2: in for the DC.
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  Speaker 3: DC Cup what they called moot Court, So basically they
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  Speaker 3: argue a fictitious case and it's a competition among the
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  Speaker 3: six Washington DC area law schools, and her school, Catholic
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  Speaker 3: University Law School, had never won it before until this year.
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  Speaker 3: So I flew down there and watched her argue the case.
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  Speaker 3: It's in that it was in the historic US Court
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  Speaker 3: of Appeals building right right like stone's throw from the
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  Speaker 3: White House practically, and it was fun. You know, the
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  Speaker 3: Court of Appeals is not a jury situation. It's three
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  Speaker 3: judges and they don't know. The judges are random, the
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  Speaker 3: judges don't know which school the kids are from. Keep
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  Speaker 3: it totally unbiased, and they present their case, They write
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  Speaker 3: the right briefs, they present their case. The judges ask
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  Speaker 3: them tough questions, which yes, okay, yeah, they try and
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  Speaker 3: pick a case that hasn't been heard in d C before.
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  Speaker 3: So this particular case was about a Yeah, I was
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  Speaker 3: just gonna ask you what it was about a broken
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  Speaker 3: engagement and whether the woman had to return the ring
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  Speaker 3: to the man. So it was kind of interesting because
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  Speaker 3: they had to. I mean, you know, you think all
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  Speaker 3: kind of a fluffy case, but really wasn't because they
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  Speaker 3: had to. There was there is no precedent in d C.
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  Speaker 3: So they had to look at other jurisdictions.
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  Speaker 2: And this is we're not playing around here though. This
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  Speaker 2: is actually really serious stuff. Like they're oh, yeah, they've
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  Speaker 2: got to they've they've kind of argued this case.
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  Speaker 3: Like they were asking them tough questions. I mean, like,
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  Speaker 3: you know, there's the case there was a similar case
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  Speaker 3: in Massachusetts and the one judge was asking Kate, you know,
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  Speaker 3: point blank questions about it. And you know, another case
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  Speaker 3: someone cited a case in the well, what year was that, oh,
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  Speaker 3: nineteen seventy four, she knew it was amazing, really yeah,
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  Speaker 3: but it was. It was fun and they totally random
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  Speaker 3: which side they got to argue. The woman's argument was
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  Speaker 3: more challenging. Tory actually had wanted that side, but the
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  Speaker 3: draw they got was the men's man's side. She had
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  Speaker 3: some interesting arguments for the other side, but we'll never
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  Speaker 3: know that.
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  Speaker 2: She was all prepared to do.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, they have to because they don't know
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  Speaker 3: which side they're going to get.
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  Speaker 2: So Tory was arguing the man's side of it, yeah
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  Speaker 2: and one and one.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, So she basically proved that they didn't get married,
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  Speaker 3: so she hadn't fulfilled the contract. Didn't matter the reasons.
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  Speaker 2: That's really cool though. It was there like a crowded
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  Speaker 2: there was just open to the publicouse.
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  Speaker 3: Isn't that big, but it was full. I'm sure it
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  Speaker 3: was mostly family members and other you know, faculty members
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  Speaker 3: and stuff like that.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, how many how many schools were were there?
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  Speaker 3: Six?
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  Speaker 2: Six?
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  Speaker 3: But the dread of Georgetown team went out in the
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  Speaker 3: first round, so you know they they've won it many times.
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  Speaker 3: So really, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So Catholic got it. Huh damn. So what is what
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  Speaker 2: does she want to do with with her career? What
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  Speaker 2: kind of lawyer does she want to be?
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  Speaker 3: Well, she likes constitutional law. I bet she can do
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  Speaker 3: a lot of things with that degree. I mean, of course,
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  Speaker 3: with her background working for the governor here in Vermont, Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: she could. She could be in politics. She could do
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  Speaker 3: public policy, which is really what kind of started her
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  Speaker 3: down the path. When she was senior staff and for
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  Speaker 3: the governor. She was frustrated by the laws that some
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  Speaker 3: of the legislators would come up with, but they really
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  Speaker 3: didn't have much of a legal staff to help them.
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  Speaker 3: So she really got interested in, you know, how laws
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  Speaker 3: are written and how they're interpreted and unintended consequences and
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  Speaker 3: things like that.
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  Speaker 2: Does Torri want to practice hearing from aunt? Do you know?
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  Speaker 3: Well, that remains to be seen, but I would say
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  Speaker 3: that she really loves loves DC, and I'd be surprised
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  Speaker 3: if she came back here.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, interesting, Yeah, I've heard that once you get down
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  Speaker 2: there you get bitten by that bug. You love it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a Washington's fabulous. I like it down there too.
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  Speaker 2: It's never been, never been. We're hoping to go though.
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  Speaker 2: We want to take Lily down and show her the
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  Speaker 2: Capitol and all that. Boy, we got a lot of
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  Speaker 2: people tuned in this morning. Good morning everyone, Yes it
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  Speaker 2: is a Monday, the twenty fourth. John Beyondolillo is my
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  Speaker 2: guest this morning from BCK real Estate right here on
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  Speaker 2: North Main Street. Been a presenting sponsor for a long time.
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  Speaker 1: Now.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, I've lost track. I've lost track. And
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  Speaker 2: of course I want to ask you about real estate.
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  Speaker 2: But so Torri doesn't want to do real estate law.
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  Speaker 3: No, actually no, I don't think she does.
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  Speaker 2: Have you Have you ever kind of steered your kids
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  Speaker 2: in a certain direction and then gave him a little nudge,
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  Speaker 2: or have you backed off? You and Marsha backed off
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  Speaker 2: and just said we're going to let them take any
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  Speaker 2: road they want to take.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I would say steering doesn't work, Otherwise I'd have
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  Speaker 3: I'd have two really good golfers.
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  Speaker 1: Wo.
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  Speaker 3: No, I mean we've always supported him, We've always given
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  Speaker 3: him opportunities, we've always traveled extensively with them to broaden
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  Speaker 3: their horizons. But we've always supported whatever they wanted. Like
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  Speaker 3: you know, I've just killed me that my daughter didn't
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  Speaker 3: want to play basketball? She played a couple of years,
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  Speaker 3: but she was tall and athletic, but she just was
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  Speaker 3: passionate about gymnastics and she and I went all over
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  Speaker 3: the country doing gymnastics for a number of years until
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  Speaker 3: she grew six inches one summer and that was kind
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  Speaker 3: of the end of that. But so you know, and Sam,
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  Speaker 3: I mean really, you know, the guidance counselor told him
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  Speaker 3: not to even apply to Boston College. He got in. Yes,
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  Speaker 3: he ended up dropping his math major and being just
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  Speaker 3: a theater major, which is supposed to be a second
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  Speaker 3: major for him. And yep, and Martian Arre kind of like,
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  Speaker 3: oh she, I mean, really, we're spending all that money
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  Speaker 3: he's gonna have withater degree, and you know, what's he
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  Speaker 3: going to be able to do with that? But yet
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  Speaker 3: he's proven us quite wrong.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah he is. He's really really done some great I mean, god,
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  Speaker 2: he's not even but is he thirty now?
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  Speaker 3: Twenty nine?
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  Speaker 2: Still twenty now?
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  Speaker 3: I know he won that Tony who he's twenty six
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  Speaker 3: or twenty seven, And he said, well, no, twenty yeah,
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  Speaker 3: twenty eight, twenty eight, And he said, well, my goal
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  Speaker 3: was to win it by twenty six, but COVID messed
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  Speaker 3: me up. I lost two years. Wow, and how old
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  Speaker 3: is toy Toy's twenty six? Wow.
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  Speaker 2: You got some really successful kids already. And I said
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  Speaker 2: that last time that they were.
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  Speaker 3: Very city elementary and Spawling High. Say what you want, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: you know, Wow, opportunities there if you take it.
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  Speaker 2: It's all about drive, ambition, motivation, dedication, staying in the game.
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  Speaker 2: It's not easy. It's not easy. We see, uh, we
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  Speaker 2: see people that that get on a good road and
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  Speaker 2: they're cruising along and something happens in life and they
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  Speaker 2: they jump ship. Kids haven't done that, no, you know.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, and there's you know, a certain amount of
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  Speaker 3: luck involved, but you know, I mean, it really takes.
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  Speaker 3: It's the kid, it's the parents, it's you know, the
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  Speaker 3: school and who they associate with. And you know, our
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  Speaker 3: kids have been been fortunate and they're on a good path.
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  Speaker 2: I want to ask you about any any stories or
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  Speaker 2: experiences you have with Arnold Palmer.
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  Speaker 3: Arnold Palmer, Yeah, I've had a few. Like what well.
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  Speaker 3: I was captain of the golf team at the University
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  Speaker 3: of Rochester and in nineteen eighty four they played the
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  Speaker 3: US Senior Open in Rochester at Oakhill and that was
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  Speaker 3: our home course, and one of the members who was
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  Speaker 3: good friends with Arnold, came up to me on It's
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  Speaker 3: like the Thursday before Father's Day. It's like, what are
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  Speaker 3: you doing on Sunday? Do you want to caddy for
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  Speaker 3: Ronald Palmer? Like, oh, let me check my calendar, you know.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, So I got to caddy for Arnald Palmer
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  Speaker 3: a practice round before the US Senior Open. And it
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  Speaker 3: was amazing because nobody really knew he was coming. So
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  Speaker 3: when he got there, there was hardly anybody there, and
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  Speaker 3: he's warming up and he's got this huge tour bag
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  Speaker 3: and he had twenty six club I'm not exaggerating there
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  Speaker 3: are twenty six clubs in it, because he was quite
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  Speaker 3: a tinker with golf clubs. And so it was like
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  Speaker 3: two or three putters and a bunch of wedges, and
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  Speaker 3: the thing weighed on and Arnold says to to Bob,
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  Speaker 3: the guy that invited, He said, oh, well, let me
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  Speaker 3: put a few of these clubs in your locker, and
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  Speaker 3: oh no, he can carry it. And but I was
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  Speaker 3: so excited. I had so much adrenaline that I that
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  Speaker 3: I could. But what a what a great guy. You know,
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  Speaker 3: you autographed the scorecard for me and gave me a
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  Speaker 3: hundred bucks, which was a lot of money in those days.
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  Speaker 3: The only only regret is that I didn't save the
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  Speaker 3: hundred dollars bill, but I needed it.
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  Speaker 2: So wow, that's so cool man. And so you're a
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  Speaker 2: former All Star American, All Star, n C double A
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  Speaker 2: All American. Ye know, damn.
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  Speaker 3: See why? And I know I'm disappointed. I don't have
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  Speaker 3: any any golfers, so Sam doesn't see him plays. He
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  Speaker 3: just play very often. I mean he'll he'll know, he'll
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  Speaker 3: pick up a club and he hasn't picked up a
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  Speaker 3: club in two years and go out and you know,
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  Speaker 3: hit the ball further than me down the fairway. But
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  Speaker 3: and my daughter is starting to pick it up and play.
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  Speaker 3: She's pretty athletic. I mean when she was ten years old,
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  Speaker 3: she could hit a three iron with a high draw,
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  Speaker 3: you know, one hundred and seventy five yards.
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  Speaker 2: Wow, it's sory inexperience other than caddying for Arnold palmert
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  Speaker 2: that you remember a tournament or anything that stands out
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  Speaker 2: in your mind, it's a it's a great memory.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I mean there are a lot of good ones.
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  Speaker 3: I mean I want a fair number of tournaments at college.
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  Speaker 3: I broke my mother's heart. I skipped my college graduation
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  Speaker 3: to play in the Northeast Championships. Yeah. I still haven't
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  Speaker 3: lived it now. I still hear about it to this day.
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  Speaker 3: But I won the tournament, So you won the turn.
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  Speaker 3: I consider that vindication. My mother does not.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, so no regrets, no, no, no regrets. That's
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  Speaker 2: pretty cool to hear that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Wow, So mom's eighty eight and she's still hammering you
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  Speaker 2: on that. Yep, did she ground you? Did she say
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  Speaker 2: that's it if you're not going to your college graduation?
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  Speaker 3: But her disappointment was duly noted. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, So what point did you get into real estate?
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  Speaker 2: What was the driving force behind Well.
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  Speaker 3: After graduating from college, I really wanted to like try
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  Speaker 3: the pro tour, but uh, but you know, in those days,
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: you had to go to each tournament and on Mondays
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: and play a qualifier and try and get in. It
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: wasn't They didn't have like a qualifying school like they
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: do now. And my father was like, go get a job,
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: so I did. So I got into banking, and you know,
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: that was really after a couple of years, and I
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: was in the credit department and worked my way up.
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: I ended up beating commercial real estate, and so that
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: was my first you know, all throughout the banking career,
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: I was involved in in real estate. And then when
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: everything went crazy at the like the late eighties, you know,
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: the economy was terrible. Yeah, that's when I really started
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: actually selling real estate for the banks, like everything from
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: houses to apartment complexes and hotels and you name it.
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: What was two thousand and eight like for you.
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't want to go back there. I mean it was,
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: it was awful. I mean two thousand, two thousand and seven,
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: like in September, the market just fell off the table.
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: I mean, two thousand and seven was a great, great year.
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: I think I sold one hundred and one or one
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: hundred and three properties that year, but it just fell
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: off the table. And it's funny because Marsha predicted it.
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: And I'm like, well, how do you slow there's no
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: money in our trust account, hardly any money in our
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: trust account. I'm like, well that that doesn't mean anything,
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: because sometimes you have big deposits and small deposits. No, no, no,
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: I've never seen it like this. I'm like yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: And of course, you know, on a normal market in
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: Vermont in the wintertime, you don't really know what's gonna
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: happen because it slows down anyway. So it's kind of like,
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: you know, he's always liking it to the old NASA
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: mission when they come back from the moon, you'd have
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: the six minutes of blackout, and that's kind of like
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: winter and Vermont in the real estate market. You don't
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: know how it's gonna be until they break out in
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: the spring. But she said, oh no, it's gonna it's
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: gonna this is bad, it's different, and she was right.
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: And you know, the worst part was eight nine. Eight
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: and nine were especially bad because there was a disconnect
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: between the buyers and the sellers. The stellers still had
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: the you know, the two thousand and six prices in
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: their head, and the buyers had already adjusted and they
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: were you know, so there was even though there were
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: a lot of lists, there were a lot of listings,
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: the buyers weren't biting on it, and so stuff just sat.
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: So I made a conscious decision that I was going
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: to take on four times as many listings as I
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: normally do because that's what I needed to maintain our sales.
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: At the place I wanted. There was a lot of work.
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, sure, well, especially when stuff's that selling, because
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: you know, you're having all those conversations with sellers every
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: week about what you're doing and why their property isn't
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: sold and they don't want to hear they need to
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: improve the price. So no, I wouldn't I wouldn't want
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: to go back and here in Vermont. I mean it
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: was twenty and eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen, fourteen,
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: fifteen was probably when it started to get rather so
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: it was like, you know, seven years a hell.
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: And then what a good four or five years before COVID.
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: Started ramping up before COVID, but it was, you know,
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: it was still pretty balanced, but it was on an
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: upward trend, especially for sellers. And COVID is crazy. What
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: about now? What about right now?
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: And how does this compare to the hardships of eight
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: And when I say now, I mean I think most
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: of us know and you and I have had this
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: conversation that the national news on the real estate market
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: is is pretty grim but here and fromont but it's yeah, that's.
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: The problem is that the way the news they way
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: they present it, us home sales are down forty Well,
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: oh my gosh, yo, that must have been the real estate
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: market's terrible. No. That means we don't have any listings
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: to sell. So it's not like car sales where they
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: have a bunch of cars to sell and they're not selling.
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: It's like we don't have the product to sell. But
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: the market's changed, I would say in the last six months.
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: It's still a seller's market for sure, because there's not
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's like, I look this morning, there's like
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: ten listings in bury Town and nine in Berry City
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: on the market, which is more than we had last year.
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: But what you've got is you've got some listings are overpriced,
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: and you know, the sellers are learning that, the buyers
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: are getting more discerning. The prices are stable. I mean, honestly,
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: I've been a long time since I've seen this many
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: opportunities for both buyers and sellers in the same market
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: because the prices are stable. So as a seller, you
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: can sell with confidence and you know you're not leaving
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: any money on the table. You know, during COVID and
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: the year, you know, prices were going up and up
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: and up and up and up, and everyone was you know,
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: afraid to sell because oh it might be worth more
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: in six months.
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: Bingo. Yeah, that's that's one of the things I wanted
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: to ask you about, is you know, how much longer
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: are people going to be hanging on here? I mean,
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: it's I'm sure, you know, you really should. Somebody ought
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: to get you. Maybe I'll fucking find one. I'm gonna
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: get it for you. Just a big giant crystal ball
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: for your desk, so you know it would be great, beautiful, Yeah,
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: and then you can say, hang on, ladies, let me
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: just check that's right here.
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah. So, but it's interest rates have come down some,
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: there's still you know, we have a whole generation of
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: people that I think rates are high because they haven't
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: lived through what some of the rest of us have.
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: You know, thirty year mortgage rates mornings at six and
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: a quarter, which is a you know, a fire cry
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: from when they were up at seven and a quarter
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: seven and a half. So I you know, I think
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: there's opportunities for buyers that can stretch them buy as
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: much house as they can because these rates are temporary.
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: You know, they say, you know, it's saying in real estate,
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: marry the house and date the rate so you know,
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: get into a house at a higher rate now. And
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: and you know, I think, without getting into all the
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: politics of the swamp in Washington, I think, you know,
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: clearly if the federal government's headed in the direction trying
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: to lower interest rates. I mean, and it makes sense
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: as a taxpayer, because I think every tenth of a
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: percent an interest is like one hundred trillion dollars on
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: the US debt. We have a lot of debts, so
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: it's in everybody's best interest for rates to come down.
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: But I think what's going to happen, you know, if
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: you see mortgage rates get back to you know, four
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: four and a half again, I think that's going to
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: cause prices of houses to go up again because it's
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: going to put more buyers back into the market. Right now,
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: a lot of buyers got knocked out of the market.
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: It's created tremendous upward pressure on rental prices. It's hard
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: to find a good rental these days for you know,
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: less than two thousand bucks.
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: John Beyondolillo is our guest this morning from BCK real
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: Estate right here on North Main Street in Perry, presenting
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: sponsor of the Aired Out podcast. You know, I wanted
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: to ask you about rentals. Do you guys have rentals
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: that you have available for the public.
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: We have one sixty unit complex and Waterbury that we
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: manage have a waiting list. I mean people will call
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: or they'll send us an email and oh, I need
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: an apartment next month. I mean we kind of laugh.
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: I mean it's literally it can be three or four
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: months before we even have an opening to get in
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: those apartments. We haven't done anything here in Berry in
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: a number of years, but the Waterbury one keeps us,
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: keeps us busy. What about commercial real estate? Do a
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: lot of commercial and actually there's some interesting, actually businesses
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: on the market right now. I don't really want to
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: get into a lot of the details because you know,
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: if you say a business is for sale, and you know,
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: people like Stall, the rumors start and everything. Really it
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: could just be the owner retiring or simplifying his life
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: or whatever. But I have some really interesting business opportunities
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: right now in central Vermont.
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: Okay. You guys also know how to do a nice
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: audit of a commercial building and say, look, that's wonderful,
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: you've you've moved out, You've got your your property for
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: sale here. But we need to tighten this up. We
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: need to make this more efficient before we put it
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: on the market. And that's that's impressive. You don't just
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: take a vacant property and throw a for sale sign
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: on it. No, that's pretty cool.
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: No.
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and there's technology involved with that too. I guess
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: the state comes in and they know what they're doing.
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: They get their radar guns there and do the heat
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: detection and stuff like that.
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: But just you gotta have it.
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: I mean, people want properties that are tight, especially up
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: here in the North Country. If it's commercial or if
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: it's residential, doesn't matter. They want something that's going to
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: be able to take some wind in some weather.
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: Let's talk about you as dad and community member. You
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: have worked with youth a lot for the last however
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: many decades. Tell me about what you've done. You've been
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: a coach.
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, I've coached basketball. I've coached soccer, both boys
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: and girls. I've actually done some golf coaching as well.
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: So high school, high school level.
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, basket, Yeah, in basketball, both boys and girls.
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: What schools.
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: Well, it's helped helped out with the Spalding team when
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: Sam's on it. Basketball, I did b O. I say
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: base baseball too. I forgot about that. Buy s a
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: b U s a soccer.
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: You you seem like the type of person that just
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: has you have your your calm personality. Guy, you don't
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: seem like you're the the You seem like you're You're
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: the epitome of grace under pressure. I can't see John
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: beyond Alillo out there going on run faster. I don't know.
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: I mean, I'm gonna I'm glad you think I'm calm
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: because a lot of people say I'm not. I I
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: do really get into the sports, and I get into it.
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: I'm passionate about everything that I do. I will tell
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: you I learned there are some real differences between coaching
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: boys and coaching girls. Boys are more motivated by you're
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: getting worked up and yelling. The girl, by and large
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: will shut down. It's not a good method for them.
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: So I had I had the privilege of coaching my daughter,
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: who was a really good soccer player, and I think
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: we lost one game out of like thirty and the
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: one game we lost, the other coaches had finally figured
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: out that they literally just needed to put four players
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: on tory and just let the other players play and
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: they did and I and I didn't have a I
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: did not have a plan for that, and they shut
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: her down. I think she only scored one or two
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: goals with four players on her, and we lost the game.
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: And as you know, we're getting deep into the third
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: quarter and I'm starting to get agitated and yelling and
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: and and it's actually was. Sam was like with me.
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: He's like, Dad, Dad, these girls aren't responding. You need
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: to content. You're making them nervous.
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: So you didn't. You didn't punch a wall though, Oh.
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no no. But I but you know,
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: all the all the wins, and there were a lot
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: of them in basketball, and that one loss is the
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: one that sticks with me that I.
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: Always think that's something else.
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: And you know in basketball, and sam'stein, we're there, third
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: and fourth graders are sixteen and oh and because I
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: thought that I was just like the greatest coach of
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: all time. And then you fast forward and four of
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: the five starters on the Spawling High school team who
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: were on that third and fourth grade team. So I
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: wasn't that good, but the players were. Wow.
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: Do you still do any of this today? Are you
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: still involved with with youth in any capacity in our community.
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: I'm not at the moment.
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: I've really I've I've really toyed with getting back into
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: the coaching. And you know, actually like I'll drive by
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: Well when the street was open to cut through to
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: Orange Street, I drive by Spalding High and I'd see
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: the lights on they'd be playing. I just get that
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: etch to really want to get involved. And and I
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: get nostalgic if I you know, we go down to
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: we go to Rutland and I drive past the field
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: there because there was the one the one game where
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: Tori actually played goalie. So I always always think of
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: that situation there. So so I do I do miss it.
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: I mean, I've certainly had my hands full the last
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: the last few years with the business and Marcia's health
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: issues and all that. But but I could I could
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: see myself getting back back into it.
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: You you just said it, so now you know expected
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: an email or two today. Uh, but that's something that
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: you you genuinely love to do.
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it's it's because you know, they're kids and
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: you can really shaped their lives. And I mean one
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: of the basketball players I had, I you know, I
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: see works here locally, and I see him a lot
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: of mornings, and you know, it's just kind of cool.
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you have, you've put some some miles under your
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: belt in your your life. You've traveled some, uh with
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: with Marcia. Tell me about some of the places that
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: you have visited in the world.
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: I've traveled a lot. I've been fortunate to do that.
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: I mean last you know, last year, when you know,
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: we thought everything was fine with her health, we made
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: a decision we were going to travel every month, and
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: we went. We went to well, we took we went
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: to California with my mom. We went to Miami with
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: the kids. For New Years. We went to the Kentucky Derby,
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: which was it was so much fun. I would have
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: gone again. I mean it was we she martially had
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: a ball. All the women their dresses and big hats
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: and and you know, and I had never been to
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: a racetrack horse racing track ever. Yeah, it was really.
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: A whole different planet.
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: It was really it was really cool. And then from
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: there we drove to Chicago. We went to Miranda Losan's
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: wedding in Chicago. No, we had some great we did
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: some did some great trips, especially that that last year.
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: But you know we took we went with my in
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: laws and the kids at Christmas, we went to Europe
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: one year. Was it was a rip. I mean it
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: was like, you know, seventeen cities and fourteen days we
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: went on. You know, we were in Paris and London
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: and all over the place. And it was great because
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: at that stage of their lives they were you know,
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: they were learning about the Middle Ages and the Renaissance
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: and so you know, they got to see the Colosseum
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: and we went all. It was an amazing trip. It
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: was now wrestle at all. I mean the first day
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: we had to get up at four thirty and be
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: in the lobby to get on the bos and what
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: are we doing? But but they loved it. They you know,
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: they still remember, they still remember that trip.
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: Of all of these places where you have visited, I've
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: got to ask you. I'm getting another question here in
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: my mind. Which one had the best food? Which where
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: was it where you were? Like, if I could go
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: back for two or three days and just eat, where
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: would it really? Yeah, no question, Oh beyond a lillo.
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: I mean that's uh yeah.
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: Man, biased, But no, it does. The food there is
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: amazing that and the Disney Cruise. Took the kids on
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: Disney Cruise and they were little, and that, I mean,
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: I was amazed there were there were a lot of
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: adults without didn't you have kids around were on the
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: Disney Cruise because the service was so good and the
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: food was so good. But yeah, that's cool.
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: Have has there been a My next question, is there
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: a city where or anywhere or a country that you
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: have visited where you have said to yourself, if there
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: was a day that I was not living in Vermont,
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: I could see myself right here.
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: M Well, I would never move out of the country
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: because I love the United States. But and you know,
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: and for all the problems and challenges we have, there's
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: really no place better than here. I could see myself
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: at some point having a house in Washington, DC area
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: in Virginia, you know, being close to my daughter. I've
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: never lived in New York, sorry Sam, But I wouldn't
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: New York City, so I could see that. I'm not
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: really a Florida person. I mean, it's nice for a
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: short time, but I would want to own a house there. Yeah,
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: but you know, I mean Vermont's pretty darn nice most
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: of the year. I mean, I'm getting so I don't
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: love the winter weather anymore, which I always used to
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: laugh at people my age when I was younger that
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: would talk about talk about how they can't handle it anymore.
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: And I get it. I get it now.
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: Yes, I get it too. I get it too. Yeah,
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: especially days like this. You know, it's like, come on, man.
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, welcome to spring.
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: Right, come on, come on, tell me about some of
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: these properties that you.
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: There weren't many to tell you about. I mean, we
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: had quite a weekend day yesterday. Actually we got we
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: had a property for six hundred and ten thou in
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: Marshfield and went under contract this weekend, like in like
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: a day really, which was amazing. I've got property up
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: on country Club Road four thousand square feet seven and
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: a half acres six seventy five that's available. We've got
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: a house on Currier Street, which I think you posted
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: on your website. I love the comments. It's a three bedroom,
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: three twenty.
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: Nine beautiful little house. Really.
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: Oh, it's cute as a button. Yeah. And that neighborhoods.
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: I just loved the comments from the people on your
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: posts about how they love the neighborhood. And my friend
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: Scott Martin who used to live there, and he's like, oh,
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: it was a great neighborhood. I missed that neighborhood and
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: it was fun to fun to see those comments and
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: it's you know, it's Currier Streets right out of Treemont
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: for those of you that don't know. And it's a
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: great it's a great, great neighborhood. I love that neighborhood
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: up there, quiet too.
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, anything else?
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: What else have I got that's available for sale? Had
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: one in an Orange on Strong Road which he had
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: school choice, that went under contract yesterday, so I don't
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: have that anymore. That was five hundred thousand four bedrooms.
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: I've got one coming in Berlin soon, so it'll be
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: interesting probably in the five somewhere. You know, we're back
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: to a more traditional market where it slows down in
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: the winter, so you'll, you know, you'll start seeing stuff
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: April May you start seeing a lot more stuff come
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: on in the market, So stay tuned.
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: And I know you've said in the past, don't let
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: winter deter you from wanting to sell your property.
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: That's true.
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: It's actually a very good time to sell because you're
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: gonna get more eyes.
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: Unless you live on a dirt road. Yeah, it's sticking
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: month season. That can be a challenge.
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: But but you know, as long as you've got some
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: photos of what your house looks like on a beautiful
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: summer day with that green grass and the blue sky,
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: you're good.
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: Well yeah, and funny, I prefer seasonally appropriate photos just
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: from a marketing standpoint, because even if I have a
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: beautiful summer photo, if you're looking at it now and
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: you see that summer photo, your first thought's going to be, oh,
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: that house must have been on the market for nae months.
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: Interesting.
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: So if I have a summer photo of this time
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: of year out, I'll put it in the mlspit it'll
• 44:40
  Speaker 3: be toward the end interesting.
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: What say you about Vermont's housing issues? Is it a
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: And I know that you're watching, you're listening, You're paying
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: attention to what's being said under the goal Olden Dome
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: here in our state. And I think the last time
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: you were in here you were like, listen, it's not
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: just for month that's got a housing crisis. I think
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: you even said it's the whole country, but it's all
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: the New England states. It's not just a Vermont problem.
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: But what say you about are housing issues. Is it
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: a crisis?
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: You know, I mean they've been calling a crisis for
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: as long as I can remember. It's it is a crisis.
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: But I think, you know, we've used that word, politicians
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: have used that word at least thirty years, and so
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: people are a little bit numb to it. The challenge
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: we have is, you know, everybody deserves to have a
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: nice home or apartment that we all deserve. That everyone
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: deserves that. The challenge is that a lot of times
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: the knee jerk reaction is to have subsidized or low
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: income housing, which we do need, but that can't be
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: our only housing stock because you can't build an economy
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: based on that. You need to have houses for workers,
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: which we don't have, you know. I mean, we used
• 46:27
  Speaker 3: to have an office in Stow and you know the
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: resort there. We're trying to hire people and stuff, but
• 46:34
  Speaker 3: nobody could have None of the workers could afford to
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: live in Stow. You know, they'd have to go further
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: afield to try and find a place to live, or
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: even an apartment was challenging. So we need more middle
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: income houses for working class people. That's that's what we need.
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: And the you know, the costs are so expensive to build.
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: You know, we really need to have the developers and
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: builders need to have help with the infrastructure costs because
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: it costs so much to build a road and put
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: it in water and sewer that you know, Barry City's
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: got all these old city lots that people don't even realize,
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: our city lots that are drawn up in a map
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: years ago, but there's no roads to them or they're
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: just dirt. And if we could ever develop though, it
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: would take you know, money, which I'm sure that you know,
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: the Scott administration would help us with. But we have
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: to have the will you know, local politicians to want
• 47:39
  Speaker 3: to do it, to build that infrastructure and then create
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: opportunities for people to build houses. And you know, I
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: don't know what's going to happen with all this tariff stuff.
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: It's you know, I mean, you know, we rely on
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: on Canada for a lot of lumber. You know, I
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: don't think it's going to be a long term thing,
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: what do I know? So that's just going to make
• 48:02
  Speaker 3: building more expensive in the short run certainly, so you know,
• 48:08
  Speaker 3: it never gets any cheaper. So we've got to bite
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: the bullet and deal with putting in some of this
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: infrastructure so we can build more houses in Berry City's
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: got a lot of capacity because they have these small
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: lots that really what people want now, easy to maintain,
• 48:24
  Speaker 3: not expensive to acquire. You know, that's a real advantage
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: Berry City he has and these lots have just been
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: sitting there doing nothing for years.
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: I don't want to get you in trouble, but great,
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: But you know, I just have to ask, you know,
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: do you have and if you don't want to come
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: at that's fine. Do you have an opinion about the
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: JJ Newberry building?
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: Oh?
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: You know, if you'd rather not say, that's fine.
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: You know, I'm I don't know I feel about it. Honestly,
• 49:01
  Speaker 3: I think that it's a it's been a blight on
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: the city for years. I think the city does need
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: to deal with it that long. In the long run,
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: it's going to be a good thing for us to
• 49:14
  Speaker 3: end up with. It galls me to enrich the pockets
• 49:19
  Speaker 3: of the owners of that building, because they really haven't
• 49:22
  Speaker 3: been good citizens, you know, they just they just haven't been.
• 49:28
  Speaker 3: But I don't I don't think we should cut off
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: our noses, spie our face that that building. You know,
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: I think it's a good thing that it's acquired. And
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: even in the short term, if it's just torn down
• 49:39
  Speaker 3: and we had parking, I think that's an improvement. So,
• 49:46
  Speaker 3: you know, stay tuned. But so it's you know, it's
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: a tough one because you've got to kind of bite
• 49:55
  Speaker 3: your tongue and then look past, you know, rewarding these
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: owners that were terrible corporate citizens. But in the long run,
• 50:07
  Speaker 3: it's in the best interest of Barry City to deal
• 50:11
  Speaker 3: with it.
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, even you know, they were saying, you know, best
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: case Nicholas story castro or city manager was in here
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: and Steve McKenzie was in here, both saying best case
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: scenario is that it would be a green space for
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: a couple of years until we get it figured out
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: what's going to go in there. But there were hopes
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: for retail and residential living both.
• 50:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it would make sense. They have you know,
• 50:46
  Speaker 3: some some we could use. We could use good apartments,
• 50:50
  Speaker 3: you know, some building with an elevator. There's a lot
• 50:54
  Speaker 3: of people that want one level living that don't want
• 50:59
  Speaker 3: to have a main paint of house that you know,
• 51:01
  Speaker 3: if you had an elevator, they could they could live there.
• 51:03
  Speaker 3: It'd be great, and they would open up some of
• 51:05
  Speaker 3: the housing stock for other working people. Yeah, you know,
• 51:08
  Speaker 3: the elderly people could sell their homes. You know, they're
• 51:11
  Speaker 3: not ready to go in a nursing home yet. They
• 51:13
  Speaker 3: still take care of themselves, but they want something simple,
• 51:16
  Speaker 3: something they can you know, close the lights and lock
• 51:20
  Speaker 3: the door and go to Florida for three months and
• 51:21
  Speaker 3: not worry about I.
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: Get a lot of comments here on aired out of
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: what also makes sense is that before we start put
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: the the the cart before the horse, we need to
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: really get control of from a preventative standpoint, to make
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: sure that our city isn't going to suffer from another
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: flood that we had two in one year's time on
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: the very day. Remember well yeah, and maybe not to prevent.
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: I mean, we can't control mother nature, but we can
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: maybe make some some real efforts to make sure that
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: our city isn't gonna flood as badly as it did.
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: If we're if we're.
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: Going to start talking, yeah, we stuff, and it's a
• 52:26
  Speaker 3: real it's a it's a it's a battle for what
• 52:31
  Speaker 3: we need. I mean, you know, years ago, they used
• 52:36
  Speaker 3: to they used to do work on the rivers to
• 52:39
  Speaker 3: keep the capacity you remember that, of course, and they
• 52:43
  Speaker 3: did it everywhere, you know, But now it's like, oh,
• 52:49
  Speaker 3: you know, we just have to let nature take its course. Well,
• 52:52
  Speaker 3: nature's taking its course, and you know, it's put seven
• 52:54
  Speaker 3: feet of water in the basement of my building down
• 52:56
  Speaker 3: the street here. I mean, you know, I don't don't
• 53:00
  Speaker 3: know what we're protecting. But I had fish in my basement,
• 53:07
  Speaker 3: so you know, and the some pump they're literally they're
• 53:10
  Speaker 3: flapping around in my parking lot because the sum pumps
• 53:13
  Speaker 3: sucking them up, sending them outside. So are we protecting fish?
• 53:17
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I know there's a lot of it's
• 53:20
  Speaker 3: a complicated thing and I'm oversimplifying it, but the rivers
• 53:27
  Speaker 3: need to have more capacity, and there's a way to
• 53:30
  Speaker 3: do that, but it's going to require us the political
• 53:34
  Speaker 3: will to to do it.
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: And there's and there's talk and I know you've heard
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: it of altering infrastructure, raising bridges. I don't know. I mean, listen,
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: I have oversimplified this on the air, I'm sure countless
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: times as well. And I know it's a complicated thing,
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: but man, if if we're going to be if we're
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: going to be protecting North Main Street, if we're going
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: to be protecting some of the commercial properties that are
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: already in existence and new business that needs to be
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: attracted here, and we're going to be we're having conversations
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: about additional retail space and residential space. We need to
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: do more than, I think anyway, than just saying we're
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: going to bring in some newer technology with with construction
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: and we're going to lift things a little bit higher.
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: I think that's a great idea, but I think that
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: that's just the start of it. We need to do
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: a lot more than just say we're just gonna build
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: a little bit higher.
• 54:48
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I totally agree. I mean, and you know,
• 54:51
  Speaker 3: maybe everybody knows this than maybe they don't. I don't know.
• 54:54
  Speaker 3: But basically, what happens when when we flowed downtown, it's
• 54:58
  Speaker 3: not the water like running down the street and going
• 55:02
  Speaker 3: into the buildings is coming up from the groundwater. So
• 55:05
  Speaker 3: we all have these perimeter drains. I go into the
• 55:07
  Speaker 3: storm stows, the storm stores go into the river Stephens Branch,
• 55:12
  Speaker 3: and when the Stephens Branch the level gets so high
• 55:16
  Speaker 3: the water can't go into the river, so it backs
• 55:19
  Speaker 3: up into the buildings and comes up through the floor.
• 55:22
  Speaker 3: Hence fish in my basement. Yeah, so it's you know,
• 55:27
  Speaker 3: it's a complicated process. I mean, you know, and the
• 55:31
  Speaker 3: big dig and Berry was was great and you know,
• 55:35
  Speaker 3: we hadn't had a problem since they did it until
• 55:39
  Speaker 3: you know, two years ago.
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And I mean here we are, springtime and summer
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: right in front of us, and you know, I'm glad
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: that we brought this into our discussion today because it's important.
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: We've got to have this in the forefront of our
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: of our minds and not just walking around ound with
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: our fingers crossed.
• 56:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah. And you know, again it's a it's a political
• 56:07
  Speaker 3: lightning rod. We we have to be good stewards of
• 56:12
  Speaker 3: the environment we do and wildlife. It's important, but people
• 56:18
  Speaker 3: are important too, and people's you know, businesses and livelihoods
• 56:22
  Speaker 3: are important. So there needs to be a little more
• 56:25
  Speaker 3: balanced than we've had recently.
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: Let's close out this morning talking about a very important
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: lady who was driving the bus in many departments here
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: in central Vermont, your wife, Marcia. She was an outstanding mom, wife,
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: community leader, chair of the Berry City Elementary and Middle
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: School Board, did an awful lot. And there is a
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: foundation that has been set up Marsha's Foundation dot org.
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: That your kids had a hand in and maybe a
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: full hand in creating that that foundation and that web
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: at least the website think did a great job.
• 57:18
  Speaker 3: Marris should be foundation dot org.
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, tell me about uh, tell me about this foundation.
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: As it says right on the page that Marcia wholeheartedly
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: believed that having a strong foundation for any child in
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: their life was essential. That those early years, especially like
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: the first ten fifteen years of a kid's life, are
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: so so important, and it's it's not just mom and
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: dad's responsibility, but it's the community's responsibility to make sure
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: that that kid is not only okay, but flourishing, doing well.
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: That's what she was all about.
• 58:08
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, she she was very selfless and worked tirelessly
• 58:14
  Speaker 3: to improve the community, especially the lives of children and
• 58:18
  Speaker 3: it you know, having been heavily involved in our kids
• 58:23
  Speaker 3: being in school and being on the school board, she
• 58:25
  Speaker 3: saw first hand a lot of the challenges that that's.
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: Right, that people face, and that not everybody has a
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: mom and a dad.
• 58:35
  Speaker 3: No, no, and you know, we're very fortunate that you know,
• 58:38
  Speaker 3: our kids had both their parents there. It's a tough,
• 58:41
  Speaker 3: tough situation. I can remember when she was on the
• 58:44
  Speaker 3: school board. They had a first grader they had a knife,
• 58:46
  Speaker 3: and it's like, my gosh, you know, and when they
• 58:50
  Speaker 3: asked the kid, he said that he was afraid of
• 58:52
  Speaker 3: his brother's boyfriend and so that's why he had the knife. Yeah,
• 58:56
  Speaker 3: so you know, you hear that just ripped your heart
• 58:58
  Speaker 3: out and you realize how fortunate your family is to
• 59:03
  Speaker 3: not be in that situation. But yeah, she was all
• 59:06
  Speaker 3: about helping, helping people that needed a hand and we're
• 59:11
  Speaker 3: in tough situations.
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna show the the web page here
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: on the monitor right now so folks can see it.
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: But but tell me about this. This was this was
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: something that what your kids just.
• 59:29
  Speaker 3: Came up with it right after she died, And you know,
• 59:34
  Speaker 3: we we're still still raising money. I mean, she wouldn't
• 59:41
  Speaker 3: have wanted us to do a lot of little tiny things,
• 59:47
  Speaker 3: so we're the process of raising money, trying to build
• 59:52
  Speaker 3: a little bit more significant capital so that could generate
• 59:55
  Speaker 3: some interest income that we can do things with.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, what would you like to do? I mean, I know,
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: and I see right here on the screen that she
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: was very passionate about after school in summer programs, keeping
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: kids engaged. Uh, not just in the whatever six hours
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 2: or so that they were in school, but that the
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: real important stuff could be after school and during the
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: summer that they're not forgotten.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 3: Absolutely, Yeah, the after school stuff was really near and
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 3: dear to her, and I know by in laws, you know,
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 3: her parents, Lamon Linda Ams, so I know they're working
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 3: with the school and some after hours programs right now.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 3: I don't actually know where that's at right now. It's
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 3: the Saint Monica's playground that they did land they acquired
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 3: that's going to be named after Marcia or in her memory.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 3: But yeah, we need, you know, we need to We
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 3: need to raise more money so that we can do
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 3: more meaningful projects. And that's you know, that's really what
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 3: this summer at some point, the kids that I need
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 3: to get together and really you know, focus on how
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 3: to get that really going.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: Right now, we're asking for donations right on right on
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: the site Marsha b Foundation dot org. But anything you
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: guys have going on this summer or this fall, please
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: include me. I would love to help promote this great
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: thank you and get behind this because this is this
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: is wonderful. You lost your your wife, the mother of
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: your children, and your best friend. Suddenly your life has changed.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: But you've also been shown a great demonstration of uh
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 2: some some love, a lot of love from your community,
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: from from business leaders, property owners, and folks in our
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: community and frankly beyond our community that have supported you
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: and said, hey, we got your back, and you've you've
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 2: got a lot of friends, and that's that's huge.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 3: John, Thank you, No, I do, it's been The outpouring
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 3: has been incredible, and people still reaching out. You know,
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 3: a lot of times you hear people just kind of
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 3: forget after a couple of weeks. That's really not been
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 3: the case. And I'm blessed to have a lot of really,
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 3: really good friends.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: One of those friends is in and I'm a little
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: disappointed that you didn't bring her. Here is Lily. So
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 2: what's the deal with Lily? What's going on here?
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 3: Lily? My three year old lab, Well, she probably would
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 3: have barked at any dogs that walk by the student.
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 3: I don't careously don't care. She barks ferociously, but she
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 3: wags her tail.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: Now, Lily is Dare I say the b CK real
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: estate mascot?
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely, Yeah.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: Her residence is right there, just outside the front door, right.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, she's she has taken up, much to my chagrin,
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  Speaker 3: and it would be Marcia's chagrin. She's taken up residence
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  Speaker 3: on the couch, which oh yeah really, which our other
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  Speaker 3: dog never even would have thought about doing. But she has.
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  Speaker 3: She has taken it over the couch. So yeah, but
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  Speaker 3: we have a lot of chairs. So if you come
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  Speaker 3: in to see me, you.
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  Speaker 2: Know, what are you going to bring her in here?
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  Speaker 3: I don't know you're for that.
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  Speaker 2: I'm ready for it.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe after I had her after a day at doggy daycare,
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  Speaker 3: packed her out. Doesn't have to, I don't care. Bring
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  Speaker 3: it to drool the slob everything.
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  Speaker 2: I don't care.
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  Speaker 3: You have dog biscuits together, your friend, Yeah, talk about
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  Speaker 3: drool man. Yeah, and you know it's like kills me
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  Speaker 3: because we have the windows washed like every week, but
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  Speaker 3: at the inside the bottom of the window, the last
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  Speaker 3: the bottom three feet and like her nose is always
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  Speaker 3: up against them. Uh.
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  Speaker 2: Listen, folks, next time you're walking down North Main Street,
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  Speaker 2: have a glance at the window right there in front
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  Speaker 2: of right a pc K and see some of the
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  Speaker 2: properties for sale if you're curious about any of them.
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  Speaker 2: Where you have any questions, am I buying? Am I selling?
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  Speaker 2: What should I do? Just pull that door handle open,
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  Speaker 2: walk right in. You're gonna be created with a smile
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  Speaker 2: and and a wag.
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  Speaker 3: If you don't have dog biscuits, we will give you some.
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  Speaker 2: And that's exactly right. And you have given me several.
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  Speaker 2: I love to lay right down there on the floor
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  Speaker 2: with Lily. She's just such a love. And just remember
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  Speaker 2: this when it comes to b c K real estate,
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  Speaker 2: that they're literally is not a question that's too dumb.
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  Speaker 2: Come in and just ask. You're going to get an honest,
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  Speaker 2: straightforward answer. You guys are and I say this on
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  Speaker 2: the air all the time. You're so dialed into the
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 2: local community. You've got great insight of what's happening right
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  Speaker 2: here in central Vermont. And that's what I love. Don't
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• 1:05:33
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• 1:05:36
  Speaker 2: what's happening right here in our in your backyard, come
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  Speaker 2: in and chat with the team at b c K.
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  Speaker 3: Thanks Charley.
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  Speaker 2: All right, are we doing? Are we doing an airplane
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  Speaker 2: ride this this summer?
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  Speaker 3: Or what what's the absolutely you can arrange that, all right, Lily,
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  Speaker 3: come in with us. Oh I don't know about that.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, I'm in though, Okay, all right, buddy, thank you
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  Speaker 2: very much. Come in anytime. Bring the kids, next time,
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  Speaker 2: bring Lily, all right, love to bring the kids, all right,
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  Speaker 2: I hope. So thanks buddy, appreciate it. Have a uh
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  Speaker 2: have a great rest of you. So you're gonna you're
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  Speaker 2: gonna walk back to the office.
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  Speaker 3: Now, Yeah, all right, brave the elements.
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  Speaker 2: Summer's coming sure, great time to uh to sell your
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 2: home or to buy. Chat with bc K real Estate.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks John, Thank you all right.
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