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Sam Cournoyer | Clydesdale Media Semifinalist Series · Clydesdale Media Podcast

• 0:09
  What is going on, everybody?
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  Welcome
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  To lunch hour with Sam is
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  what we're going to call it today.
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  Just on my lunch hour from work,
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  I pop on with an old friend, Sam Cornway.
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  What's going on, man?
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  Hey, man.
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  How are you?
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  Doing great.
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  Yeah.
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  Got the Murph shirt on.
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  You getting ready for Murph?
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  No, actually not.
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  I'm going to try to prep myself for semis,
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  you know.
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  That little thing coming up?
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  Yeah, that little thing, you know.
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  But I'm going to definitely
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  do it after semis, that's for sure.
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  All right.
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  Yeah,
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  so you guys are – you're last this year,
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  right?
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah, we have the fun stuff at the end,
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  you know.
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  Got to weigh the whole month
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  and watch everyone go first.
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  But, hey, it's part of the game.
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  Yeah, there's been a lot of talk about,
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  like, you know,
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  there was a little leak
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  with the workouts and then
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  CrossFit went ahead and
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  released them all.
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  that maybe they were out too
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  soon and that athletes
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  could actually get burnt
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  out because they knew the
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  movements and they would
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  program them too much.
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  What are your thoughts on that?
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  I mean, I can definitely see that,
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  you know, happening.
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  Especially now, like you said,
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  they released it way too early.
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  They got a leak and everything.
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  So now, I mean, as much as we try not to,
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  it's kind of like hard to
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  not practice them, right?
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  When you know what you're
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  going to do at competition time,
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  you want to be the best.
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  had it as possible.
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  So, uh, I think it's, uh, it is hard.
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  I think it's hard to manage like how to,
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  um,
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  not do them too much often and too much,
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  try to not do too much of
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  variation of those workouts.
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  But, um,
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  I guess we're all in the same boat.
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  So, uh,
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  I guess it's the same for everyone.
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  Yeah.
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  Cause like as important as it is,
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  because this is the leg
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  that gets you to the games.
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  Your goal is to do well at the games.
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  So you don't want to, like, mess it up,
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  but you don't want to, like,
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  overdo it because you still
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  have more training to do.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah, exactly.
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  No, it's – I think it's – I will say, like,
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  if your goal is to – I mean,
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  if your goal is to actually
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  perform the games,
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  you've got to be really
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  careful about those workouts.
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  And, like,
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  you want to do some variation of
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  those and actually maybe –
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  hit one each time, each workout, like,
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  just to see and know how
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  it's going to feel on the come floor.
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  And after that,
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  try to move on and just do
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  maybe one variation of the
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  workout a week.
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  And after that, try to be done with it.
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  Definitely,
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  if you have one workout that you're like,
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  hmm, this one's going to be bad for me,
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  maybe pass more time on it.
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  But at the same time, like,
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  you only have three weeks, so...
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  Yeah.
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  And the way some of them are designed are,
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  they're designed for you to
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  go into that dark space and you don't,
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  you don't want to practice that a bunch.
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  You don't want to know what
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  that feels like till you have to do it.
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  No, exactly.
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  No, it's, uh, like if we, uh,
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  Let's say we look at the last workout,
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  Evan Six, the cow bike, muscle up,
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  and the heavy lunges one.
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  I think that's the kind of
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  workout that you don't want
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  to do too much.
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  Just because you're going to
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  be in the zone for that workout.
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  So even if you want to
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  practice it a lot and try
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  to go as fast and as hard as you can,
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  you're definitely not going
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  as fast as you're going to
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  be on the comfort.
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  It's kind of like those workouts are like,
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  I mean, that's for me personally.
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  Um, those kinds of workout,
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  I'm not going to touch it actually.
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  I'm just going to be like, Hey,
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  there's going to be a one
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  shot deal on the come floor.
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  And, um, I know how,
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  how bad it's going to be.
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  So I don't have to practice that.
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  Um, I might do some, you know,
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  like heavy lunges with the dumbbells,
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  some muscle up, like email style workouts,
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  but like,
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  I'm not going to do actually the
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  full workouts.
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  So like you said, it's a, yeah,
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  there's a couple of
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  workouts in that weekend.
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  That's going to be bad and hurt.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  Well, and I, you know,
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  the thing is that it's gone
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  back to classic CrossFit.
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  Like you could drop this
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  semifinal in 2015 and it
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  would be appropriate for a 2015 regional.
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  Does that play into your
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  game or do you like the new
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  fancy toys and objects?
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  I mean,
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  I think I'm kind of like in the
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  middle of it.
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  I do like the old school CrossFit,
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  like you said, like, you know, 14, 15,
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  16.
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  Those years were great to watch.
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  And I think what Adrian...
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  brought on the table in the
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  last couple of years,
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  let's say in the last two years,
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  it wasn't bad either.
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  There was maybe some stuff that, you know,
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  they should have given the
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  athletes some heads up maybe,
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  just to make it like a
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  better show for people to watch,
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  but I don't think it was like, you know,
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  crazy bad.
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  But now I feel like it's kind of like,
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  if I had to program it, let's say,
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  in the best world,
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  I would have to try to be like,
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  In the middle of those two, you know,
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  like let's try to go back to old CrossFit,
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  but let's also keep some of
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  the new stuff that we just, you know,
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  put on.
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  And now we're just totally
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  back to old school CrossFit.
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  It's fine.
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  It's good.
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  It's going to be a great
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  show for people to watch.
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  It's just like think at the
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  level of the fitness of the
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  game right now that we are.
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  we might have some – I mean,
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  I believe we're going to
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  have a lot of surprise on
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  the leaderboard at the end
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  of those weekends just because,
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  like you said, there's no, like,
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  skills anymore.
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  Like, they just decided to remove it.
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  But at the same time, we'll see.
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  We'll see because we do know the workout,
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  but they might still have
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  some tricks that we don't know yet.
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  Yeah,
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  the one big unknown seems to be that
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  handstand walk and what
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  you're going to face during that.
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  Yeah.
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  The one cool thing is,
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  for the first time ever at
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  this stage of the competition,
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  you're not going to run with a machine.
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  You're going to run on land.
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  Yeah, that's pretty cool.
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  I was bummed about that.
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  I think it's about time that we...
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  We dropped that air runner
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  and tried to make it, you know,
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  like as much as a real run, you know.
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  I mean,
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  the air runner is like it's a great
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  tool for training, I think,
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  especially for me,
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  like in the winter here.
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  Uh,
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  it's kind of like impossible to run
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  outside,
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  but like once we can get outside
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  and run on, you know, tracks or streets,
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  um, it's way more fun.
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  And I think it's actually the real run,
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  you know, compared to like, uh,
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  big deals on the runners that are heavier,
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  they get some advantage on it.
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  So, um, no, I'm pumped about that.
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  It's going to be cool.
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  Uh,
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  especially that they're going to do it
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  like, you know, on each weekends.
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  Um,
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  I saw some comments, you know,
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  on Instagram that people
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  were kind of like, well,
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  it's going to be hard to
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  compare times and like,
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  because it's not the same parkour.
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  I'm like, who gives a, you know,
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  like there's like,
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  it's going to be the same
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  course with those people doing it.
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  And like,
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  it's going to be fun for people
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  to watch actually is going
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  to be there and for people
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  to watch at home.
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  So, um, and fun for the athlete.
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  When you guys are on the air
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  runner for an 800, like,
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  The spectator has no idea where you're at.
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  How boring is that?
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  Just a bunch of dudes and
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  girls running on their hair
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  on their... Well,
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  I don't know where he's at now.
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  Who's winning?
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  The judge moved to click the
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  thing up one notch now.
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  Yeah.
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  It's going to be so much
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  cooler seeing who's in front of you,
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  who's behind you.
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  And then even for the athlete,
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  you'll be able to see, like,
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  I've got to make up 10
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  meters on this guy.
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  Yep.
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  And how am I going to do that?
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  Yeah, no, exactly.
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  It really is going to feel like, you know,
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  like a bunch of kids racing
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  in the streets.
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  That's it.
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  Like, hey,
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  who's first and who's second and third?
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  And, like, let's try to catch those guys.
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  Like, we're back to 10,
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  12 years old and racing each other.
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  So it's going to be nice.
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  Yeah,
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  Wad Zombie jumps in with the air
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  runner at semifinals last
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  year was a snooze fest.
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  Oh, yeah.
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  Yeah, I agree.
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  Yeah.
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  So, so I want to,
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  I want to go back a little
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  bit because it's been a
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  minute since you and I've talked, um,
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  we've seen each other at events, you know,
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  we, we say hi, we give the hugs,
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  we do that stuff,
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  but I haven't got to sit
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  down with you in a little bit.
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  And, um,
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  You took a year to go team
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  before last year.
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  Yep.
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  What did that do for you in that year?
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  I know before you went into it,
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  you told me that it was a
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  way for you to be able to
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  work on your holes.
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  Were you able to do that?
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  Some of those, I will say some of it.
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  Yeah.
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  And, um, I mean, I guess as an athlete,
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  you're always going to have
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  to work on something.
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  Right.
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  And, uh,
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  let's not lie that running is
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  always going to be my, you know,
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  my Achilles, how you say that in English?
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  Like my, uh, your Achilles heel.
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  Yeah.
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  So that's for me running is
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  always going to be that.
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  And, um,
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  Yeah, I mean,
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  I'm a way better runner than
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  I was if I looked at it five years ago,
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  you know.
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  Last year, the games, I mean,
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  I blew up my back the day before,
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  so I tried to run as hard
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  as I can with a broken back.
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  It's kind of hard.
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  But you see,
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  for that running 500 workout coming up,
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  I mean, I'm feeling like...
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  You know,
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  there's way too much good dudes
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  there who's going to run
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  way faster than me,
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  but I feel pretty confident
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  that it should be, like,
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  not a terrible workout for me.
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  So I'm actually pumped about
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  it to actually being able
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  to be healthy and test my run finally,
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  like, at the best capacity that I can.
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  So I'm excited for that.
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  So, yeah, I did fix a couple of them,
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  but I'm still working on some others,
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  you know.
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  Yeah.
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  What was that experience
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  like being on a team with Rich?
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  I mean, what can I say?
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  It was the best, right?
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  I mean, we got there.
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  We had a fun time.
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  Crushed workouts,
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  win the games with the best.
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  The girls was amazing, teammates too.
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  So, no, it was cool.
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  It's definitely something I want to do.
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  Again, just because, you know, I mean,
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  you know, me growing up,
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  I played team sports all my life.
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  So falling back into that
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  portion for me was kind of like, oh,
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  I miss that.
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  It's actually if you if I had to choose,
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  let's say, like,
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  what is the best between
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  individual and teams?
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  The team's games is so much more fun.
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  There's so much more, you know, like,
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  the communication that you need,
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  the synchro stuff.
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  Like, it just, the game is just more fun.
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  I feel like, as usual, like,
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  I'm doing it just because
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  it's something that I want
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  to accomplish for myself, but...
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  I feel like the team side of
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  it is way more fun to do.
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  Not because there's less
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  pressure or anything.
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  Especially right now,
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  the team side is getting so
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  much stronger.
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  Those tough teams,
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  they're doing it full-time
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  individually now.
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  the level of fitness that
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  those teams are bringing on
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  the table is super high and
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  um so you got to be serious
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  and like and like everybody
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  else like they're there to
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  win so uh there's nothing
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  less pressure in teams and
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  in general it's just
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  different but um for me I
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  just I prefer I will like
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  if I had to choose one of
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  for the rest of my life I
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  will have big team um yeah
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  that's for sure
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  So I grew up playing both
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  team and individual sports.
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  And for me, when I'm on a team,
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  like I push myself beyond
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  my limits because I can let
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  myself down a lot easier
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  and I can let others down.
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  And did you find that when
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  you were on a team with
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  Rich that you didn't want
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  to let him down?
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  And so maybe you pushed a
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  little bit harder?
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  Yeah.
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  I mean, I don't think so.
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  It's hard to answer that.
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  I think definitely in certain workouts,
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  me and Rich was actually
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  maybe pushing beyond our
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  limits because the girls
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  were crushing us in training.
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  I mean,
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  Andrew and Taylor are so fit that
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  there were workouts in the
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  gym that me and Rich were totally dying.
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  And maybe we get some time,
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  like a couple of times we did got,
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  you know, that extra gear if you want.
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  Yeah.
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  trying to keep up with the girls.
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  But I would not say that I
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  push it harder to not let him down.
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  But I just feel like, you know,
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  especially when you're competing in team,
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  like, it's not just you, you know.
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  Like,
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  there's 300 person in that team that
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  is counting on you.
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  So you don't want to, you know,
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  mess up things.
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  You don't want to be the guy
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  who's – or the girls who, you know,
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  the blame is on because you
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  guys did not –
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  did great in the workout so
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  that's definitely for sure
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  you know like in the back
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  of your mind but I had I
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  was lucky to be like in a
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  great great team and the
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  job was actually pretty
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  easy you know like I'm not
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  saying that the competition
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  was easy but like my job
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  was just hey just do your
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  job keep up with those
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  three and everything will
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  be fine you know and I feel
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  like Rich Taylor and Andrea
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  did an amazing job just you
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  know showing me the tips on
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  the warms and stuff like
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  that and like you know
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  I feel like it's a,
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  I didn't have it like hard.
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  I think,
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  I think you may be one of like
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  five people to say that
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  keeping up with rich Andrea
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  and Taylor is easy.
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  I mean, it's not easy to do.
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  It's just like, there's so much,
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  there's so much great teammate that, uh,
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  when they show you what, how to do it,
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  like it's, it gets the job way easier,
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  you know?
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  Uh, no, I mean,
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  they're definitely hard to
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  follow in the workouts.
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  That's for sure.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  It's, it's just like me as a mere mortal,
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  like that isn't even
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  comprehensible to me.
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  So yeah.
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  Uh, Sarah Cooper says.
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  Yeah.
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  So I promise I'll go back.
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  That's for sure.
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  Um, so are you still with mayhem today?
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  Yep.
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  Yeah.
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  I'm still in mayhem.
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  I'm just, uh,
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  I haven't been there in a
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  while just because, uh, you know,
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  I'm a dad of two now and
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  they're getting older.
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  And my wife has given me a
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  lot of her time in the last
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  couple of years, but now I'm trying to,
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  you know,
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  make it as much fair as possible,
• 15:01
  even if I'm doing a
• 15:02
  terrible job at it right now.
• 15:04
  Because, you know, as a full time, I mean,
• 15:05
  I'm a full time athlete,
• 15:06
  so I got to train a lot.
• 15:08
  But I'm trying to I did stay
• 15:11
  home like way more.
• 15:13
  compared to the last four
• 15:14
  years um less travel more
• 15:17
  training at home more time
• 15:18
  with the family and uh but
• 15:20
  I'll go be I'll be there
• 15:21
  maybe a couple days before
• 15:22
  semis and uh I'll probably
• 15:25
  gonna head back before uh
• 15:26
  the games to prep with the
• 15:27
  guys there but um yeah I'm
• 15:29
  still with ma'am so what's
• 15:32
  it like being a dad it's
• 15:34
  fun I like it especially
• 15:35
  right now you know like I'm
• 15:36
  getting into space like all I am is uh
• 15:39
  six years old and Mila is
• 15:41
  kind of like two and a half.
• 15:43
  So like right in the middle
• 15:44
  of terrible too, but, uh,
• 15:46
  we having a great time.
• 15:47
  It's fun.
• 15:47
  Like Liam started baseball
• 15:49
  last summer and the season
• 15:49
  just started again.
• 15:50
  So we have baseball twice a week.
• 15:53
  Um, Mila is, she has a lot of energy.
• 15:57
  So we never have, you know,
• 15:58
  like that little, uh,
• 16:00
  Relax time with her.
• 16:01
  We always like doing something.
• 16:02
  So it's cool.
• 16:02
  I like it.
• 16:04
  It's fun watching her grow
• 16:07
  up again and remembering
• 16:08
  things that we did with
• 16:09
  Liam back in the days, you know.
• 16:11
  So I like it.
• 16:12
  Yeah, it's super fun.
• 16:15
  So do you still have the garage gym?
• 16:18
  Yeah,
• 16:18
  I built a new one a year and a half
• 16:21
  ago now.
• 16:22
  So I went from a 10 by 12 by
• 16:26
  a big 30 by 30, 17 feet high.
• 16:29
  So now I'm able to do way
• 16:31
  more stuff than before.
• 16:33
  Yeah.
• 16:34
  So,
• 16:34
  so you saw Rich's barn and you just had
• 16:36
  to have one for yourself.
• 16:37
  Yeah, exactly.
• 16:38
  Just, uh, twice smaller though.
• 16:40
  Yeah.
• 16:42
  But, uh, no, it's great.
• 16:43
  I'm, I'm grateful for that.
• 16:45
  Um, being able to have the, you know,
• 16:47
  that Merck fitness company
• 16:48
  that's giving me all the equipment and,
• 16:50
  um,
• 16:51
  pulling the gym so I can
• 16:52
  train full time and having
• 16:53
  all the equipment that I need.
• 16:54
  So, uh, yeah, I'm grateful for that.
• 16:57
  Are you,
• 16:58
  are you good training by yourself?
• 17:01
  Uh, I do, I do actually.
• 17:03
  I don't want to sound like, uh, like, like,
• 17:06
  uh,
• 17:07
  I don't know,
• 17:08
  like a douchebag or something, but I do.
• 17:09
  I'm great to train by myself.
• 17:11
  It's just something that I have in me.
• 17:13
  You know,
• 17:15
  I have the I have the chance to
• 17:16
  also have a lot of friends
• 17:17
  that come to my house.
• 17:19
  So like on a day to day,
• 17:21
  I will say that one session
• 17:24
  a day I'm with friends and
• 17:26
  like the other session I am by myself.
• 17:30
  And I kind of like it like that.
• 17:32
  I like it both ways.
• 17:34
  It's fun to have people
• 17:35
  train with me so I'm not
• 17:36
  totally by myself,
• 17:37
  but I do also like those
• 17:39
  alone sessions that you
• 17:41
  have to be in your mind and
• 17:42
  focus on what you have to do.
• 17:44
  Especially if you want to
• 17:45
  compete individually,
• 17:46
  I think it's important.
• 17:48
  You can't compete
• 17:49
  individually if you cannot
• 17:51
  do it by yourself.
• 17:52
  So that's what I believe.
• 17:54
  and um so yeah I like it
• 17:56
  both ways but uh I'm
• 17:58
  grateful for my friends who
• 17:58
  comes with me in the
• 17:59
  morning sometimes how close
• 18:02
  are you to like uh
• 18:03
  alexander caron and and those guys
• 18:06
  So Alex Caron lives,
• 18:09
  so like he lives actually in Quebec City.
• 18:12
  So it's kind of like a two
• 18:14
  hours and 30 minute drive.
• 18:16
  So yeah, it's too far for me.
• 18:18
  Alex Vio, he lives like 10 hours from me.
• 18:20
  So that's impossible.
• 18:23
  Jeff lives closer to me.
• 18:26
  We kind of like have like a
• 18:27
  40 minute drive ish.
• 18:31
  from each other.
• 18:31
  So that's why I've been
• 18:33
  there training with Jeff a
• 18:34
  couple of times this year.
• 18:35
  He came here a couple of times too.
• 18:39
  It's just, it's kind of hard with traffic,
• 18:41
  you know?
• 18:43
  So that's why we don't train
• 18:44
  as much together, but yeah.
• 18:49
  Yeah.
• 18:49
  Cause Alex and you are both
• 18:50
  mayhem athletes.
• 18:51
  I can pull a few clothes and
• 18:53
  just get kind of a little
• 18:54
  bit in here and there, but man,
• 18:56
  that's a long way.
• 18:57
  No, yeah, it's a long way.
• 18:58
  So, I mean, sometimes we do, you know,
• 19:00
  like we do workouts,
• 19:01
  we do the same workouts so
• 19:02
  we can talk about scores and like,
• 19:04
  even with the people at Mayhem,
• 19:05
  like Luke and stuff like that,
• 19:06
  people like Guy,
• 19:09
  we do workouts that are the same.
• 19:10
  So it's fun.
• 19:11
  So we can compare, you know,
• 19:12
  times to times.
• 19:14
  So, but yeah,
• 19:15
  definitely it will be like a huge,
• 19:18
  huge plus if the travel was not that far.
• 19:22
  So a while ago, I was talking to Jeff,
• 19:24
  and he said one of the
• 19:25
  hardest parts about working
• 19:26
  out in Canada is when
• 19:29
  spring breaks and you can
• 19:30
  finally get outside,
• 19:33
  you want to go gung-ho into
• 19:34
  getting outside.
• 19:36
  And he found that early in his career,
• 19:38
  it made him peak too early in the season.
• 19:41
  Yep.
• 19:42
  So he almost had to, like,
• 19:44
  woe it back and pull the
• 19:45
  reins back on getting too
• 19:47
  excited about spring.
• 19:48
  Yeah.
• 19:48
  Yeah, no, I believe that.
• 19:50
  It is because, you know,
• 19:51
  like in the winter for us, I mean,
• 19:55
  if we have, it's kind of like, I mean,
• 19:57
  I don't think it's as bad as Iceland,
• 19:59
  but like we don't have a
• 20:00
  lot of sun in the winter.
• 20:02
  So when the sun comes out, like in spring,
• 20:06
  like in summer, like you said,
• 20:07
  like we want to get outside and like,
• 20:09
  Just today, like, I have a long run to do,
• 20:12
  and I'm going to wait until, like,
• 20:14
  later this afternoon when
• 20:15
  the sun's going to be, like, you know,
• 20:16
  more warm so I can go at
• 20:18
  the track and do it.
• 20:19
  But, like, yeah,
• 20:23
  you definitely have to be
• 20:24
  careful with that.
• 20:24
  That's for sure.
• 20:25
  But I feel like after mid-June,
• 20:29
  end of June, you're fine.
• 20:31
  You know, like,
• 20:31
  it's a summer for everyone
• 20:32
  in the world almost, so you're good.
• 20:36
  So one of the other things
• 20:37
  that we talked about way
• 20:38
  back is that you were
• 20:39
  working with Jim Hensel.
• 20:41
  Are you still working with him on Mindset?
• 20:43
  Yeah,
• 20:44
  Jim is a really great friend of mine.
• 20:46
  We keep in touch.
• 20:47
  We've both been busy,
• 20:49
  but we still make calls time to time.
• 20:52
  And, yeah, we do still some work.
• 20:55
  I mean, we still do some work together.
• 20:57
  But we also, you know,
• 20:58
  like we're friends now.
• 20:59
  So we talk about a lot of stuff,
• 21:00
  life and everything.
• 21:03
  But I'm really,
• 21:04
  really happy and so
• 21:05
  grateful to have Jim in my life.
• 21:07
  Not just for my CrossFit career, you know,
• 21:09
  like just for me as a human being,
• 21:12
  Jim is definitely someone
• 21:13
  I'm looking up to.
• 21:16
  The way he acts with people, the way he is,
• 21:18
  he definitely made me a
• 21:19
  better human and a better dad.
• 21:22
  I still have a lot of work to do.
• 21:25
  But, no, I'm really,
• 21:27
  really grateful for Jim.
• 21:29
  I'm excited to go see him actually soon.
• 21:31
  Yeah.
• 21:32
  Did I observe that he's been
• 21:33
  your coach at the last few events?
• 21:36
  Yeah,
• 21:36
  he's been with me last semifinal and
• 21:38
  last two games.
• 21:41
  He's not going to be with me
• 21:42
  at semis because he's, I mean,
• 21:44
  his personal life,
• 21:45
  he's got some stuff to do.
• 21:48
  But definitely he might be
• 21:50
  with me again at the games.
• 21:51
  If he's able to free himself,
• 21:54
  he's going to be with me again,
• 21:55
  that's for sure.
• 21:56
  So how does it work when
• 21:58
  Mayhem's taking a bunch of
• 21:59
  people like you and Luke
• 22:01
  and Roman and all those
• 22:02
  people were at semis last year together?
• 22:05
  Do you guys hang out in the
• 22:06
  back as a group with all the coaches,
• 22:09
  or do you have your own personal coach?
• 22:13
  I mean, we all have our personal coach.
• 22:17
  Definitely, you know,
• 22:18
  like me and Luke are really good friends.
• 22:22
  So we do, you know, help each other.
• 22:24
  I can remember last year at the semifinal,
• 22:27
  you know, last workouts,
• 22:28
  we were by our side by side.
• 22:30
  And I mean...
• 22:33
  Sorry, Luke is a monster on the eco bike.
• 22:34
  So I knew that workout was good for him.
• 22:36
  So we kind of like, you know,
• 22:38
  making jokes and like
• 22:39
  laughing at each other.
• 22:40
  Like, I'm going to kick your ass.
• 22:41
  And I know you're not,
• 22:42
  but you definitely kick my
• 22:43
  ass at the end.
• 22:45
  But so, yeah, I mean,
• 22:47
  I feel like it depends.
• 22:49
  It depends with who.
• 22:50
  Like, you know,
• 22:50
  I do respect a lot of Roman.
• 22:52
  But I'm not a great friend
• 22:54
  with him just because, you know,
• 22:55
  I haven't been there a lot
• 22:56
  with him at Mayhem.
• 22:58
  And we don't talk that much.
• 23:00
  So I don't really talk with
• 23:03
  him when we're competing
• 23:04
  because it just feels like
• 23:05
  the right time.
• 23:06
  But, like,
• 23:06
  every time I was at Mayhem and we were,
• 23:09
  like, you know, having conversation,
• 23:10
  he was a great guy.
• 23:11
  But I'm just not as much
• 23:14
  close that I am with Luke as an example.
• 23:17
  So, yeah, I mean, to answer the question,
• 23:20
  we do –
• 23:21
  We try as much as we can to
• 23:25
  keep it friendly, but hey,
• 23:28
  we're competing, so sometimes it's hard.
• 23:31
  Yeah,
• 23:32
  I actually got a really good glimpse
• 23:33
  at you and Luke's
• 23:34
  relationship because Jamie and I,
• 23:37
  my partner,
• 23:38
  we were at the finish line at
• 23:41
  semis last year when you
• 23:42
  guys both finished at Echo
• 23:43
  Bike and had to wait for
• 23:45
  the final results.
• 23:46
  And we were just kind of hanging out there,
• 23:48
  and it was obvious you two
• 23:50
  are pretty close.
• 23:52
  Yeah, no, no, yeah,
• 23:53
  I was really happy for him to qualify.
• 23:56
  Luke has been, I mean,
• 23:56
  I've been knowing Luke for a while now,
• 23:58
  and he's been really,
• 23:59
  really working hard to get there.
• 24:01
  And, you know, team,
• 24:03
  going team the year before
• 24:04
  definitely paid off a lot for him.
• 24:06
  And after that, making it to the game,
• 24:08
  it really was something, you know,
• 24:10
  a big accomplishment for him,
• 24:12
  not just as an athlete, you know,
• 24:14
  as a human.
• 24:14
  So, yeah, I'm super, super happy for him,
• 24:18
  and he's going to do great
• 24:19
  again this year, I'm sure.
• 24:22
  I met Luke at TFX a couple years ago.
• 24:26
  Just a solid dude.
• 24:30
  Great guy.
• 24:32
  Definitely not the guy from the show.
• 24:33
  I can tell you that.
• 24:36
  I've never watched The Bachelor,
• 24:37
  but everything I've heard,
• 24:40
  he was opposite of that.
• 24:41
  He was so fun to hang out with.
• 24:43
  I love him.
• 24:46
  Um,
• 24:47
  so I want to talk about watching your
• 24:50
  career in my opinion,
• 24:53
  like in the last couple of years,
• 24:54
  the only thing that has held you back is,
• 24:58
  is injury.
• 24:59
  Yep.
• 25:00
  Like,
• 25:01
  you've had – the one problem I've
• 25:03
  seen with your game is finishing an event,
• 25:06
  like finishing it healthy.
• 25:09
  Last year at the games,
• 25:10
  it was obvious your back
• 25:11
  was hurting again.
• 25:12
  Have you figured out
• 25:14
  anything this offseason to
• 25:17
  more bulletproof that so it
• 25:20
  doesn't come up?
• 25:21
  Yeah.
• 25:21
  I mean, hopefully I did find a solution,
• 25:23
  you know.
• 25:25
  I definitely – something
• 25:26
  that I did this year,
• 25:28
  and it's actually hard to do still,
• 25:31
  Um, I did call a lot of volume.
• 25:34
  Um, that's not something easy to do.
• 25:38
  And that's something that I like to do.
• 25:40
  But definitely, you know, like you said,
• 25:42
  if we look at my resume at the games,
• 25:44
  I always I mean, I got,
• 25:48
  let's say we don't count 2019, you know,
• 25:50
  in 2020.
• 25:51
  Those year, I mean,
• 25:52
  first year with all the
• 25:53
  cuts after each workout.
• 25:55
  kind of like a dumb year
• 25:57
  after that 2020 was online
• 25:59
  so I don't really count
• 26:00
  those two but like 2021 um
• 26:03
  getting sick from the lake
• 26:05
  I mean can't really control
• 26:07
  that right uh 2022 was fine
• 26:10
  um 2023 last year got had a
• 26:12
  great first day um messed
• 26:15
  up my first workout the
• 26:16
  second day but wasn't
• 26:18
  because of like injury or
• 26:19
  anything was actually because of me
• 26:21
  And I tried to catch up
• 26:22
  after that on the sandbag squad.
• 26:24
  And this is where I blew up my back.
• 26:25
  I might have went a little
• 26:26
  too hard from what I was able to do.
• 26:29
  But definitely, like,
• 26:31
  it's something that me and
• 26:32
  Jake made him look at in
• 26:35
  the offseason and try to see, like,
• 26:36
  all right,
• 26:38
  we know you can make it top ten.
• 26:40
  Like, you're a top ten contender.
• 26:41
  That's for sure.
• 26:41
  You're fit enough.
• 26:42
  Everyone knows it.
• 26:44
  I mean, you've been training with –
• 26:47
  A lot of great athletes and
• 26:48
  you're kicking their ass in the gym.
• 26:49
  So it's not like a fitness question.
• 26:51
  It's always like how to make
• 26:53
  you healthy and the best at the games.
• 26:58
  and so that's why we decided
• 27:01
  to cut volume this year a
• 27:03
  little bit and see if it
• 27:06
  will turn out pretty good
• 27:07
  for me and so far I mean I
• 27:09
  can tell it's paying off I
• 27:12
  haven't been doing you know
• 27:13
  like huge strength cycle in
• 27:16
  this like you know this
• 27:17
  season and I've been
• 27:19
  hitting numbers that I
• 27:20
  haven't touched in three
• 27:20
  years so like it's kind of
• 27:23
  like it's fun you know like
• 27:25
  I haven't do I haven't done a lot but
• 27:28
  Numbers are back and I
• 27:30
  didn't feel any injury in my off-season.
• 27:34
  After I fixed my back,
• 27:35
  everything was kind of good.
• 27:39
  I'm feeling great right now.
• 27:41
  I'm trying to think about it,
• 27:42
  but we'll see.
• 27:43
  It's hard to tell.
• 27:45
  Training is something and
• 27:46
  competition is something else.
• 27:48
  But definitely I feel and I
• 27:50
  believe we did the right
• 27:50
  decision of cutting some volume.
• 27:53
  and making some changes and
• 27:56
  more accessory stuff you
• 27:58
  know like I mean you know
• 27:59
  man like we we everyone
• 28:01
  knows us as like man those
• 28:03
  guys can train all day and
• 28:05
  uh that's what I like to do
• 28:07
  but I had to change that a
• 28:08
  little bit so uh less
• 28:09
  workouts more accessories
• 28:11
  um more focused on maybe
• 28:13
  intensity workouts
• 28:14
  sometimes longer stuff less
• 28:16
  crossfit um so far I think
• 28:19
  it's paying off you know
• 28:20
  So I'm going to keep it that way and,
• 28:22
  you know, pray God that the games,
• 28:25
  everything will do good.
• 28:27
  It's funny you talk about
• 28:28
  that because my best friend
• 28:30
  and I were talking today.
• 28:31
  Our gym has incorporated
• 28:33
  more accessory work into
• 28:34
  the day-to-day workouts.
• 28:37
  So, like,
• 28:38
  we only Metcon now as average
• 28:40
  Joes maybe three or four times a week,
• 28:43
  and then some of the days
• 28:45
  are just pure accessory work.
• 28:46
  And my body feels so much more –
• 28:49
  so much better just doing
• 28:51
  that yeah so are you
• 28:53
  subbing out the metcon time
• 28:55
  with like pure accessory
• 28:56
  work bodybuilding things
• 28:58
  like that yeah no yeah
• 28:59
  that's definitely what I'm
• 29:00
  doing right now like yeah
• 29:02
  if I had to take like an
• 29:03
  example like sometimes you
• 29:05
  know I will have I would
• 29:07
  have done like you know two
• 29:08
  great big metcons in the
• 29:10
  morning with some
• 29:12
  let's say barbell cycling
• 29:13
  stuff and some core exercise stuff.
• 29:16
  So like a huge 1am session,
• 29:18
  like do the same,
• 29:19
  same thing in the afternoon.
• 29:20
  Now I'm only,
• 29:22
  I'm only doing one Metcon in the morning.
• 29:24
  And so I cut kind of like
• 29:26
  one Metcon out of the way,
• 29:28
  do more accessories, but like,
• 29:32
  not as like, I mean,
• 29:34
  off season I was doing a
• 29:34
  lot of bodybuilding right now.
• 29:36
  I kind of cut it off a
• 29:36
  little bit and tried to
• 29:37
  make my accessories more as like
• 29:40
  accessories movement that we
• 29:41
  might see you know at the
• 29:43
  games kind of like um
• 29:45
  sandbag carry stuff where
• 29:48
  instead of doing it like
• 29:49
  you know a fourth time like
• 29:51
  in the medcon but like
• 29:52
  let's do those as
• 29:53
  accessories perfect form as
• 29:55
  much as I can so once it's
• 29:57
  go time well I'm gonna do
• 29:58
  it well you know um stuff
• 30:02
  like that so I cut one
• 30:03
  workout in the morning and
• 30:04
  definitely had some more cardio machines
• 30:08
  intervals in those routine training, uh,
• 30:11
  the week.
• 30:13
  And, uh, yeah, I mean,
• 30:14
  so far it's working.
• 30:15
  I feel fine.
• 30:16
  I do still feel fit.
• 30:18
  There's like, uh, maybe some,
• 30:21
  like my gymnastic,
• 30:22
  let's say my gymnastic
• 30:23
  might have take a little
• 30:24
  hit if I had to compare to before,
• 30:26
  but like,
• 30:27
  it's always been a strain of mine.
• 30:28
  So at some point you gotta, you know,
• 30:31
  uh, make a decision.
• 30:32
  Like if you want to do better at this,
• 30:33
  well, you got to cut some other stuff.
• 30:36
  That's what I did.
• 30:37
  Um,
• 30:37
  so hopefully my gymnastics is still
• 30:39
  pretty good for games.
• 30:40
  And if a must not work out
• 30:42
  with instant wall comes up,
• 30:43
  I'll be winning that workout, but, um,
• 30:46
  we'll see.
• 30:47
  It's hard to tell.
• 30:47
  Um, so yeah,
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  that's why I'm excited
• 30:50
  actually to compete to a semifinal,
• 30:52
  you know, um,
• 30:53
  those workouts are pure classic CrossFit.
• 30:55
  They're going to be at every
• 30:57
  one of those going to be tight race, but,
• 30:59
  I want to see personally if
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  what we've been doing the
• 31:02
  last couple of months is
• 31:03
  working well and if we are
• 31:05
  on the right path with games.
• 31:08
  In the past years,
• 31:10
  did your back flare up at
• 31:11
  semis ever at those events?
• 31:13
  You just didn't see it?
• 31:15
  No.
• 31:16
  I mean, no, not really.
• 31:17
  I never really actually had
• 31:19
  a back injury before the games last year.
• 31:23
  It's just that 200-pound sandbag,
• 31:25
  I tried to – I mean –
• 31:28
  I told myself that I
• 31:29
  couldn't move that bag.
• 31:30
  Like I was moving the word a year before,
• 31:32
  but it turns out it's a
• 31:33
  little heavier than I thought.
• 31:36
  And, uh, so that's why I, I,
• 31:38
  I did blow my bag.
• 31:39
  The recovery from it
• 31:40
  actually was a long time
• 31:42
  after the game to me,
• 31:43
  good two months when I came
• 31:45
  back from the games to fix that.
• 31:46
  And, um, but now it's fine.
• 31:48
  You know,
• 31:49
  I did lift five 75 couple of
• 31:50
  weeks ago and I'm like, huh, let me,
• 31:52
  that's good.
• 31:54
  Yeah.
• 31:54
  Back is strong.
• 31:55
  Back is strong.
• 31:56
  So, um, yeah.
• 31:59
  Awesome.
• 31:59
  Yeah,
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  I know you were on a team at
• 32:02
  Guadalupalooza.
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  Didn't you guys have to
• 32:04
  withdraw with something?
• 32:05
  Yeah,
• 32:08
  it was more like a precaution for the
• 32:09
  season.
• 32:10
  I kind of like tear a little
• 32:12
  one of my bicep, but nothing crazy.
• 32:15
  We could have kept going, but like, I mean,
• 32:17
  me and Rich, I mean, especially Rich,
• 32:19
  he was like, no, we're not doing that.
• 32:21
  We're not taking the risk to
• 32:22
  mess up your season just
• 32:23
  for Guadalupalooza.
• 32:25
  So, yeah.
• 32:27
  I must have thought that was
• 32:28
  a back injury then, but you said biceps,
• 32:31
  so now I get that.
• 32:34
  No, I'm actually super healthy right now.
• 32:36
  I'm happy about that,
• 32:38
  and I want to keep it that way.
• 32:43
  You didn't do as many
• 32:44
  off-season stuff this year either, right?
• 32:46
  No.
• 32:47
  Now I try to actually, you know,
• 32:48
  take a step back a little bit, fix stuff,
• 32:52
  and, like, fix my back.
• 32:56
  Fix my mind also.
• 32:57
  You know,
• 32:58
  being a professional athlete like that,
• 32:59
  and every year there's
• 33:00
  something happening,
• 33:01
  it did take a toll on me.
• 33:04
  And so I had to be... I really wanted to,
• 33:08
  you know,
• 33:08
  fix everything and be in a
• 33:09
  better place so I can be, you know,
• 33:13
  come in this season more, you know,
• 33:14
  with more motivation and actually...
• 33:17
  compete the best I can so um
• 33:20
  yeah yeah so and it gave
• 33:23
  you gave you more time as a
• 33:24
  dad and spent time yeah
• 33:26
  it's too yeah no yeah
• 33:28
  definitely it's uh I'm do I
• 33:31
  do and I still like to you
• 33:32
  know train hard compete and
• 33:34
  stuff like that but you know
• 33:36
  The more the kids are growing up,
• 33:38
  the harder it is for me to, you know,
• 33:40
  be selfish kind of like
• 33:42
  days like tomorrow and
• 33:43
  Saturdays when Liam doesn't
• 33:45
  have school and like
• 33:46
  everyone here at home and like just me,
• 33:48
  you know,
• 33:48
  training hard and letting my
• 33:50
  wife take care of everything.
• 33:51
  It's getting hard.
• 33:53
  But I still have that little
• 33:56
  something in me that want
• 33:57
  to prove it to myself that
• 33:59
  I can be one of the best.
• 34:00
  So, yeah.
• 34:03
  Well, with that,
• 34:04
  let's finish up with this.
• 34:05
  Going into this season,
• 34:07
  what is your realistic goal
• 34:08
  for semis and then into the games?
• 34:13
  Goal for semis?
• 34:14
  I'm not going to lie.
• 34:14
  I just want to qualify.
• 34:15
  I don't really actually care
• 34:17
  about where I'm going to finish.
• 34:21
  For sure, like, you know, as an athlete,
• 34:23
  when you're competing, you want to win.
• 34:25
  But I just hate people telling, oh, yeah,
• 34:27
  I'm going there to win and, like –
• 34:29
  You see, I'm going to win.
• 34:30
  Like, buddy, I don't know if you know,
• 34:31
  but there's only one person winning.
• 34:33
  So, like,
• 34:33
  what happens if you finish second?
• 34:35
  You're a loser?
• 34:36
  I mean, no, you're not.
• 34:37
  Like, second place is not bad, you know?
• 34:40
  Like, we all won the first place,
• 34:42
  but it's not happening to everyone.
• 34:44
  I just feel like you got to
• 34:46
  have the right mindset,
• 34:47
  like go there and try to win.
• 34:49
  But the goal, like you said,
• 34:51
  is the CrossFit Games.
• 34:52
  Even if you win open, like Unikowski,
• 34:55
  and you win quarterfinals,
• 34:57
  even if you win semifinal,
• 34:59
  but you get the games, it doesn't win.
• 35:01
  Well, you know, is he a loser for that?
• 35:04
  I don't think so.
• 35:05
  But there's only one thing
• 35:07
  that really matters,
• 35:08
  and it's the CrossFit Games.
• 35:10
  You know, so for me,
• 35:12
  I just want to qualify for semis.
• 35:13
  We have a really, really, let's be honest,
• 35:15
  we are the strongest region.
• 35:18
  The feel, especially on the men's side,
• 35:20
  is crazy strong.
• 35:22
  It's going to be all tight
• 35:23
  race each workout.
• 35:24
  So I'm going to do just my
• 35:26
  best in each workout if I
• 35:28
  qualify all VIP with that.
• 35:30
  And for the games, I mean,
• 35:32
  I definitely want something like a top 10,
• 35:35
  but
• 35:36
  I did, I mean,
• 35:37
  since the beginning of the season,
• 35:39
  my main goal is to finish my weekend.
• 35:42
  You know,
• 35:43
  I've never made it to the last cut,
• 35:46
  so that's my goal.
• 35:47
  I want to actually complete
• 35:49
  and finish my CrossFit Games this year.
• 35:52
  That's my goal.
• 35:54
  Just get there on Sunday and
• 35:55
  do that last workout.
• 35:58
  So you've trained all year,
• 35:59
  and what's cool about being
• 36:00
  in this most stacked
• 36:02
  division or most stacked
• 36:04
  region is you're going to
• 36:05
  test yourself at semis.
• 36:07
  You're going to know what
• 36:09
  all that work has done and
• 36:10
  where you're at because
• 36:11
  you're going up against
• 36:12
  Roman and Adler and Luke
• 36:14
  and all those guys.
• 36:16
  How important is it to see
• 36:18
  where you're at this weekend coming up?
• 36:22
  I mean, it is important and it's not.
• 36:25
  You know, you can't compare.
• 36:27
  Like, I do, I mean,
• 36:29
  I'm lucky because I got Roman and Jeff,
• 36:32
  you know, two podium guy in my region.
• 36:34
  So you cannot really ask for
• 36:35
  better than that.
• 36:36
  But there's also people like
• 36:38
  Pat and Justin, you know, and Sam Kwon,
• 36:40
  like on the, Brett Fikowski, I mean,
• 36:42
  name it all.
• 36:43
  You know,
• 36:43
  like there's a lot of good dudes
• 36:45
  that are not with us.
• 36:47
  So it's hard to come by.
• 36:49
  You can't really compare.
• 36:50
  I think you just got to be like,
• 36:52
  Um,
• 36:53
  you can actually analyze your
• 36:55
  performance and see if what
• 36:59
  you're working on has been working.
• 37:01
  And if it's working well, you're, you get,
• 37:03
  you did a great job, you know?
• 37:04
  Um, so you cannot compare, like,
• 37:08
  I can't compare myself to
• 37:09
  Jeff Adler on that first
• 37:11
  event running clean and jerk.
• 37:13
  Let's be honest.
• 37:14
  Jeff is freaking strong and
• 37:16
  we all know that he runs fast.
• 37:18
  it will be done for me to
• 37:19
  compare myself with Jeff
• 37:20
  Adler on that workout.
• 37:21
  So I can definitely maybe
• 37:24
  try to target some of the
• 37:25
  guys that are in the same
• 37:27
  range of me in the running
• 37:29
  game and try to beat those guys.
• 37:31
  And if I beat those guys, well,
• 37:32
  I did a great job in my
• 37:33
  offseason because it means the work I did,
• 37:35
  it did work.
• 37:37
  So that's how I see it.
• 37:40
  So, yeah, we'll see.
• 37:43
  We'll see,
• 37:43
  but it's going to be interesting,
• 37:45
  that's for sure,
• 37:45
  and it's going to be fun.
• 37:47
  Well, Sam,
• 37:48
  I want to thank you for doing this.
• 37:50
  You know,
• 37:50
  we try to keep these a little
• 37:51
  shorter because of semifinals,
• 37:53
  and you guys are prepping for that.
• 37:55
  As always, you know I'm a big fan.
• 37:57
  I'll be rooting for you.
• 38:00
  And I think I'm going to
• 38:01
  make it down to Knoxville for this.
• 38:03
  So we'll see you down there.
• 38:05
  Awesome.
• 38:05
  Thank you.
• 38:06
  Thank you for having me today.
• 38:07
  Yeah,
• 38:08
  thanks to everybody in the chat for
• 38:09
  being here.
• 38:10
  We will see everybody next
• 38:11
  time on Clydesdale Media Podcast.
• 38:14
  Bye, guys.