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Season 2 Begins: Reflections, the Off-Season, and What’s Ahead | Go Wildly Podcast · Go Wildly Podcast

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  Welcome to Season 2 of Go Wildly podcast.
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  We are Emily and Heather, 2 childhood friends who carry a
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  mic into wild places like rivers, trails, and forests with
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  wild people to host raw, honest conversations about adventure,
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  healing, identity, and the transformative power of nature.
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  In this season, we're centering the voices of people who call
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  Southern Oregon home. Outdoor enthusiasts and outdoor
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  professionals whose lives have been shaped, changed, or are
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  continually influenced by time outside.
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  Come along as together we go wildly.
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  Oh. Hello.
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  Hey. It's so nice to see you.
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  Hi. Happy 2026.
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  Oh my God, I got to get that. Oh, you got some shit in your
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  teeth. Can I get it?
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  It's like on your upper gum, a little piece of olive.
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  Now it's actually on your tooth, you know, but it's on the side.
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  They're not going to be able to see it.
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  Only I can see it. Is it?
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  Going to bug you. No, no, I just won't look at
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  you. I could not.
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  I could never not look at you. Mostly like.
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  I feel it on my tongue. Now it's OK.
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  Get it? It's now like tucked into your
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  bottom lip. What?
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  Yeah, why don't? I do that, it's moving around
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  better. Is it upper or lower?
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  Lower, I mean real friends. Hold on, I'll help you floss
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  afterwards. Oh gosh.
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  Oh God, Oh my God, over here I just ate some olive schmear.
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  It was pretty good though, wasn't it?
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  It was really good and right there.
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  I. Know Oh my God, I literally have
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  so much. You have so much olive in your
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  teeth. Damn dude.
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  We could have flossed before him, but it's OK, it's fine
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  there. It's not going to be like all
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  that visible and if it is, whatever.
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  This. It won't be.
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  Yeah, just to you. You're going to be looking at my
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  mouth the whole time. Like anything near.
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  Oh my God, that's funny. Oh, what the?
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  Voice silence. That, yes, thank you.
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  Did you hear me say what the fuck I was saying?
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  What the fuck? Because I thought I did.
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  Oh, I. Thought it was just in reaction
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  to the to it making noise. Well, I guess that it is both.
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  Yeah. OK.
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  All right, We got to hurry. OK.
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  Hello. Hello, Wildly Wonders.
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  Welcome in to episode 1 of Season 2.
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  That's what we're officially calling it because we know we
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  kind of took a little ebb. We took a little hibernation.
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  Hibernation mode. Emily was in a different country
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  for how many weeks? 6 1/2. 6 1/2 weeks.
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  So that was why. But anyways, if you're new here,
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  I'm Heather. I'm Emily and we are go wildly
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  that. Was a little rough.
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  We're rusty. We're so rusty.
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  OK, so yes, so we are. Take it from here.
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  OK, Yeah, that's right. I'm Emily, This is Heather and
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  this is our second season of Go Wildly.
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  If you are new to Go Wildly, we are US and we're wild and we
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  live in a wild place. We've been friends since middle
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  school and though our lives took different channels over the many
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  years we reconvened, we converged a couple years ago to
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  create this storytelling podcast to highlight the beautiful, life
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  changing stories. Fucking Jimmy, dude.
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  OK, let me make sure it's done, Jimmy, just.
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  Walked off. He just walked.
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  Tripoded. It.
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  But he's good. He's good.
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  Jimmy, go lay down. He won't.
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  He will eventually. But.
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  He's. Good.
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  We're good. We love you.
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  You're. Good, Heather's just.
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  Can you lay down right here? Sit.
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  Not on my lap. You're not laughing right now.
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  Sit. Anyways.
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  Should we? Should we start over?
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  Do. You want to?
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  Yeah, I thought it was really a nice organic start.
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  OK, I truly OK great. It was good Yeah, OK, I was
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  going to take it from there. I us reconvening a couple years
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  ago to start this project. I feel like we have just
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  connected. It was like we didn't even we
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  weren't even on different channels.
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  It's such a weird feeling and I'm kind of going a little off
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  on a tangent really quick here, but just like.
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  Get used to it, yeah? Me and Emily's friendship, like
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  while we spent like a solid 15 years kind of doing our own
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  thing and but like still being connected because we both live
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  in a small town and like social media these days, you it's
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  really hard to like not see what anybody's up to.
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  So you see what people? Are if you're sharing.
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  But like, what we've grown over the past two years when we
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  reconnected, I'm like, we didn't skip a beat.
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  Yeah. Like I'm like, did we really
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  spend 15 years of like, distant friends like crazy?
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  Yeah, it was like just the right time in our lives to come back
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  together and collide. And have like a really deep,
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  good friendship from that. With like, with a, with a
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  history, but also like, there's so many times that we've hung
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  out over the last couple years that you've brought up a memory
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  from our youth that I don't remember or I've brought up one
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  from our youth that you don't remember.
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  And so while we have a shared history, we also have lots of
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  fragmented memories of our time together.
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  And now we're just creating all these new memories with each
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  other and building new bonds and new memories with people that
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  are either familiar to just one of us or new to both of us,
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  right? Right, I don't.
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  Know it's been really cool. It's been a cool.
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  This whole project has been really great, so we welcome
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  here. Yes, it's a really fun ride here
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  what we got going on and we hope you enjoy.
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  And do you want to see anything else before we we got some
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  bullet points? Hit today.
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  Yeah, for those of you who may be new to go wildly, one of our
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  new wildly Wanderers, we only do in person outdoor recording.
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  One of our values is highlighting the beauty of
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  nature. And since we are here telling
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  outdoor stories, it just makes the most sense that we are in
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  the outdoors telling these stories.
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  When we thought about starting a podcast, initially we thought
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  about being in a studio and both of us realized that we cannot be
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  contained to a studio. Neither of us can sit inside
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  looking at a screen for that long.
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  And it's just like the the conversations you get into when
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  you're on the river or hiking or just.
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  Sitting around a campfire. Yeah, those are the best, like
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  cracking into somebody. Also like the best, like bonding
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  moments with people to like loop back around.
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  Maybe that's why we've had such a good, deep, quick
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  reconnection. It's like the outdoors does
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  something to you. We got to be in it.
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  Yeah, yeah. It's, it grounds you, it roots
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  you, it connects you back to your innate self and to nature.
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  And, and when we're telling stories about, we're telling
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  stories about being outside that changed somebody's life, we
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  can't do that inside. You can't do that.
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  You can't feel, you can't feel it.
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  We want you to be able to feel it.
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  We want you to feel it, hear it, and see it.
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  So what's our All of your senses are being engaged.
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  Yes, our podcast Elevator Pitch is this is a podcast in the wild
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  for the wild about the moments spent in the wild and we
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  interview people of this region and we'll crack more into a
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  little tidbit of that that we're the evolution of the podcast
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  here in a little bit. But that's this podcast.
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  We're we're telling everybody's most pivotal moment outside that
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  they've that they've had outside.
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  What's changed them? Well, like camping or hiking or
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  fishing or hunting even or. Climbing trees.
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  Climbing trees. What else has it been?
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  Clearing trail. Playing sports even?
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  Yep. Playing sports, we've had a lot
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  of that rafting near death experiences.
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  Wilderness Therapy. Just like all of it and how the
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  outdoors did something like it. Just really that story that
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  changed them. I found a lot of the stories
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  that we had in last season and I think that it will continue to
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  be true as we go on. But a theme that really stood
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  out to me in last season was how often there was a young person,
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  like aged four to seven, who was looking for freedom or a sense
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  of belonging in their life and they Independence, freedom.
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  Yeah. And found it outside, found it
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  either within themselves outside or found community outside, or
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  found it with an outdoor component with a tree or with a
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  water source or with an animal outside and.
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  That I think that moment that we've heard, we've heard that a
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  ton of times. And then there's like this
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  little invisible string theory that has LED them into what they
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  do as almost like a career or an obsession hobby in their adult
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  life. And that's kind of what we're
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  here to expose that like thread from like outdoor moments and
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  childhood that stemmed into like, what they do now.
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  And they're like purpose and pillars, Yeah, in their lives
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  now. How quickly, how quickly and how
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  young it became it came to them and how they've really
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  fulfilled, like the childhood, the childhood dream.
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  Yeah, it's so cool. Love that.
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  That was a strung out elevator pitch, but that is what it's all
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  about here and that's what we're here to share.
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  Yeah, we are. Also a thing to know about us is
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  that we are essentially unedited, not only our our
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  language and our conversation. We are not in a studio cutting
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  and pasting what's being said. And really because like I said,
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  we want to spend as little time sitting in front of a computer
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  as possible. We shoot our episodes in one
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  take and it's unless the battery dies or we say something like
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  really private or like specifically private.
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  To do this season because we found that there's a lot of
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  trying to find the needle in the haystack and editing.
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  Yeah, And it sometimes gets forgotten about.
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  Yep. So we don't want to.
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  Anyway, so these are these are like one take recordings.
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  We don't we, yeah, we're completely unscripted.
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  We have a guide, we follow a structure.
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  But really what is happening here live is what you are going
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  to be watching and listening. And yes, that's the birds in the
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  background and the boats floating by and whatever comes
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  up between US and whoever we have.
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  So we will occasionally do episodes that are just us, where
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  we'll kind of recap and touch base and just talk about Heather
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  and I, but the majority of our episodes will feature another
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  guest telling their story. Right, right.
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  And then we have so in this episode today, this is episode 1
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  of season 2, but it's just going to be in line.
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  So it'll be what? Where are we at episode like 16
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  or? Something like that.
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  Anyway, I don't go, don't quote me on that.
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  I don't know, but it'll be in line because that's what
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  algorithm likes. But this is technically episode
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  one of our new season. And so in today's episode, we're
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  really kind of recapping what happened last year, doing some
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  reminiscing on some episodes here and there and stuff, and
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  then what we did in the offseason cuz Emily was gone.
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  And Heather made a huge career advancement.
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  I did, thank God. And then we'll talk about the
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  Season 2 and upcoming stuffs we have planned, and then we'll
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  just do a nice little like goodbyes.
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  Yeah. Yeah.
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  OK, so let's talk about last season.
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  Yeah. Cool.
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  It was such a learning curve. Yeah, lots and lots of editing.
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  And then also like kind of a rejection of the editing that I
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  think was our biggest lesson was we don't want to spend time
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  editing, cutting and pasting, recreating what was happening
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  live. And it was a lot of the very
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  first recording that we went out and did.
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  We were out recording for like 4 or five hours and it turned into
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  a 2 episode production and took up our whole day with one
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  person. It was fun.
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  We saw, we went on a great, we had amazing conversation, but it
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  is not sustainable for the long term productivity of our sanity
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  and of the producing of this podcast.
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  And I think just like any good show, even on TV, it's like you
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  have a pilot episode to kind of work out the kinks, get better
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  at acting. Sometimes you have a whole pilot
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  season. A whole, you know, Yeah, well,
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  this is that would be the pilot season.
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  So even though there's some such great Nuggets, we learned so
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  much and what works and what doesn't work and so.
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  And it wasn't, I think until our third recording session that we
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  actually came up with the structure that we wanted to
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  follow. And so each time that we've gone
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  out on a recording session, we've refined our craft.
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  We've we've refined our structure so much more.
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  And that's part of what makes us really excited for the evolution
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  coming into 2026. But it really, it was just so
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  much fun. It was so much fun to learn and
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  so much fun to like kind of meet people that we already knew.
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  But in a different light. It was like in a different
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  space. We're really trying to work out
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  how we speak to. Emily's already really good at
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  that. I feel like I was honing that in
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  and stuff. Still always am.
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  That's always. We're always a work in progress.
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  But yeah, it was just so much. I want to say too, that like we
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  kept having epiphanies along the way.
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  Like episode 3, we had like epiphany driving out to our
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  location where we're like, this is what the podcast needs to be.
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  And we've like we have followed this, the signs, so to speak.
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  Like if somebody was driving down a dirt road and you're just
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  driving or you're hiking down a dirt road or pat trail, it's
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  like you're taking the signs, you're taking those signs from
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  God and like. Just following our intuition and
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  what sparks and asking asking questions of the spirit world
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  and and saying non. Denominational.
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  Yeah, yeah. I mean, we, I, we've talked in a
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  couple of episodes about the influence of my dearly departed,
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  deceased father and how he has guided this process.
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  He was a guide in his life and he's a guide to us now in this
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  podcast and Emily's world indefinitely.
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  Yeah, Oh yeah, Infinity, Infinity.
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  He is eternal even though his physical presence.
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  Anyway, so we've been really taking signs from Gap and
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  listening to him. When he says turn, we've been
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  turning. And when he says you're doing
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  the right thing, we keep doing that right thing.
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  Yeah, and we've really, we really did that from episode
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  well from all season. I felt like there was a little
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  progressions of sign turning each one.
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  Do you have a core episode that you're just super proud of and
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  love so much of last year? I was going to ask you that too.
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  Really. Yeah, because when I, when I
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  tell people about the podcast who don't know me, listen to
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  this one, which I was doing while I was in Europe for 6 1/2
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  weeks, and they would say which one's your favorite?
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  You know, it is really hard to choose.
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  Like it's like, I would assume choosing who your favorite child
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  is because all, every episode is like this little love baby that
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  we've made. But I, I think that my favorite
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  or my most like the one that I think I feel the most proud of
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  was is Miguel's episode, The Wildland Firefighter, because
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  I've I was gently coaxing him into agreeing to do an episode
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  for a while. And when he finally agreed to
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  it, I just felt like he he bloomed, like I watching him
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  just blossom in in the space and in his story and in the feedback
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  that I heard from his family about it, about how they were
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  awakened to the reality of him that they weren't aware of and
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  how much it grew their the depth of their love for him.
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  And I just thought it was so special that he was, he was
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  resistant and he was wary and he was nervous and he kind of felt
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  like he didn't have a story to tell.
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  Oh. He had such a.
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  Story and then yeah outcomes this like.
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  Shout out Miguel. Tear jerking, profound,
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  beautiful, transformative story. And I'm I'm so proud of him and
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  I'm so proud of that we got to facilitate that and, and like
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  the container that we have to be able to bring this out of
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  people. And I think that is something
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  that is, there's so many special things about this podcast and
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  about what we get to do, but that is probably the top, in the
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  top three things that I'm most proud of that we get to do is
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  find people who don't think that they have a story and then find
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  that they have the best fucking story they do.
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  Yeah. What about you?
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  I think Betty's episode really hit me.
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  Yeah, probably because it is the first one, but it was, I don't
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  know, I just felt like it was a really well-rounded episode,
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  even though it was the first one, we were still we're on the
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  good path. Well, it was the first one that
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  we released, but it was the first one that we followed our
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  newly found structure. It was on the way to that
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  episode that we came up with our this is how we want to structure
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  the pod. And so we told her, OK, this is
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  what we're going to try today. And it was the first I just
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  felt. Like it was really like we were
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  all vibing with each other too. So it's a really good one.
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  I also really liked the Hunter's episode.
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  Yeah, lately it was. It was good.
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  It was a good. Episode it was so fun to
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  reconnect a St. like again, reconnect with somebody that we
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  knew but also really didn't know, like we have some kind of
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  shared history with, but all pretty superficial.
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  And then we we got to meet him in who he is now.
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  That was cool. It was so cool.
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  Yeah, that was a really cool. I just love the like trill.
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  I'm just like a big like, oh, that sounds.
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  It's like really neat. It's a really neat thing.
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  Yeah. Anyway, yeah, those are some.
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  I love it. Yeah.
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  I mean, like, yeah, it's it really is just so hard to
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  choose. I could go through every episode
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  and be like, this one was so cool for this reason, and this
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  one was because of this. I mean, like Gabe's episode was
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  so cool. It was so rich with like value,
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  value and knowledge and just realism.
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  And I loved Paris's episode because of the variety of
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  emotional experiences and the reflections that I saw her
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  having and the like, the movement that we had, the
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  floating on the boat and. Was that our first boat episode?
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  We had floated with Kate, but I forgot the cord.
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  So yeah, I think that might have been our first floating episode
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  cuz I'm, yeah, we, we actually recorded with Kate afterwards.
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  And I loved Kate's episode because she was also somebody
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  that was like lives a pretty private life and doesn't really
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  share her life story very often, if at all.
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  And so if it's such an honor to get to, for her to agree to do
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  this and to share her story and for it to be so unique and wild
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  and, and like traumatizing, but also she's such a resilient,
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  strong person who has built this incredible creative life.
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  Yeah, and it was a little like off the beaten path too.
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  It was totally like with her art and stuff.
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  It was taking a whole new, I don't know, like subject turn
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  for us, you know, like we've been we had been talking to
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  people that like mostly about the outdoors.
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  And while hers is very much rooted in the outdoors, her art
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  took it just the art path, you know, and like she got to talk
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  about how she became an artist and and then her like TV show
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  she was in and. Like and being in a like a bad
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  kids school that was. Oh my God, yeah, that was it.
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  It was just so. And we had snacks on that
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  episode. We did.
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  We had some river charcuterie. Yeah.
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  Love us some river charcuterie. So yeah, I don't know.
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  Yeah, but. Really like episode every
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  episode has been so unique. It's.
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  Own baby. It's own little baby for sure.
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  Yeah, yeah, there's been similar, similar threads and
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  similar structure, but every single one has been so unique
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  and special. Yeah, I also think just like
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  recording this podcast in general has really helped
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  blossom my like curious gene and like, you know, really like hone
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  in my questions and answer receiving and how to like carry
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  on and like get more deeper information about something and
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  really like ask those right questions and like exercise that
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  muscle because it's a total muscle to carry a conversation.
• 23:05
  On and. If you don't practice, you don't
• 23:08
  get better. Yeah, you got to practice.
• 23:09
  Yeah, that was so I was at a did you see that little yoga video
• 23:14
  that I shared that I was in the the caption of it was if you
• 23:18
  don't practice, you don't get better.
• 23:20
  Yeah, you don't. And that's why we're continuing
• 23:22
  and it's gonna be Season 2. It's.
• 23:24
  Gonna be. Great.
• 23:26
  Let's recap on your just quickly cuz I'm running a little running
• 23:30
  out of time. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 23:32
  Yeah, What were we doing in the offseason?
• 23:33
  Well. Emily had a big trip that she
• 23:37
  had hopes to do some recording but ended up just being a.
• 23:41
  Yeah, I had like soft hopes and I was prepared with the
• 23:46
  equipment to be able to do some recording.
• 23:49
  We. Even filmed an episode that
• 23:50
  would feature her in but we ended up it's it'll be a bonus
• 23:55
  type of maybe even. Yeah, maybe we'll steal some
• 23:57
  sound bites out of it, but yeah, we did like a preemie traveling
• 24:03
  little recording that. Never came to fruition.
• 24:05
  But that's what. Happens.
• 24:06
  That's literally the name of the game here.
• 24:08
  Yeah, we've done. We've recorded more than what
• 24:10
  we've produced because some things just don't, don't make it
• 24:15
  to copy, Yeah. I do really, I do really like
• 24:19
  the structure too. Just to recap on how we ended up
• 24:22
  taking like an organic break. I think it was very needed.
• 24:25
  And I know that we've said that we're you know, we're going to
• 24:28
  episode, the episode will drop every blah, blah, blah or every,
• 24:31
  you know, whenever. But like we really kind of like
• 24:33
  it petered off and stuff and then we were just like, let's
• 24:36
  take a break. That's what was needed because
• 24:38
  it's hard to bank up episodes and we also live wildly lives
• 24:44
  and that's just is what it is. And part of what makes this
• 24:48
  podcast sustainable for us is that we aren't putting pressure
• 24:52
  on ourselves to produce something based on somebody
• 24:57
  else's expectations of it. That we're, we're doing this for
• 25:01
  you and for our guests, but really we do it for us in a way
• 25:05
  that feels good to us and our energy and our timeline and, and
• 25:10
  all the other competitive priorities that exist in our
• 25:14
  lives. And we know that if we were to
• 25:17
  get to a point where this, where we were feeling like pressured,
• 25:21
  we would burn out so fast. And we don't want that to
• 25:24
  happen. So we have to give ourselves
• 25:26
  grace and treat ourselves and this baby product with with love
• 25:32
  and respect and tenderness so that we can keep doing it.
• 25:37
  Yeah, so. Sorry to kind of tangent off on
• 25:40
  that, but how was Europe? It was really good.
• 25:44
  I went with a one way ticket originally my I had four weeks
• 25:49
  kind of planned out. Originally the idea was that I
• 25:52
  was going to go with a friend who wanted to go to Europe after
• 25:56
  she graduated college and she wanted to go on a European
• 25:59
  adventure to celebrate being done with school.
• 26:02
  And so I and she invited me and I was an absolute yes.
• 26:08
  And so I started to put some feelers out on how I would get
• 26:12
  there and what I would do. And she didn't really have a a
• 26:15
  specific date or time, just that it was going to be in the fall.
• 26:19
  And my so my best friend from child childhood, we've been
• 26:24
  friends since we were two years old.
• 26:26
  She moved to Portugal several years ago.
• 26:29
  And she gave me Yeah, yeah, we went to middle school, high
• 26:35
  school together. But we grew up like 4 doors away
• 26:39
  from each other as little, little tiny children.
• 26:42
  And so yeah, she moved to Portugal a few years ago and she
• 26:45
  gave me a pretty open-ended, like open invitation to come
• 26:48
  visit any time. And so I saw my opportunity to
• 26:53
  do that and then. I'm really glad you did.
• 26:57
  She's. Me too, she's so cool.
• 26:59
  She's so cool. I would have loved to feature
• 27:03
  her in an episode and I have the utmost respect for her and her
• 27:06
  lifestyle that she chose not to. She does not want her life on
• 27:12
  YouTube or on the Internet. She doesn't want it promoted or
• 27:14
  projected. And I so wholeheartedly respect
• 27:18
  her for that because if I went through life, I wouldn't want it
• 27:21
  on the Internet too because it is so cool and unique and I'm
• 27:26
  I'm so proud of her and inspired by her and she's just fucking
• 27:30
  rad. Will she be listening to this?
• 27:32
  I hope so. Shout out Jade.
• 27:34
  She is one of She does subscribe on YouTube so.
• 27:37
  Hopefully one day I'll make it over to say hello.
• 27:41
  So that was kind of my like jumping off point was, OK, I'm
• 27:44
  going to go visit her. I know that.
• 27:46
  And then I was invited to go on a cruise out of Barcelona and do
• 27:52
  Barcelona, the Canary Islands, Morocco.
• 27:56
  And I've never I've never done a cruise before.
• 27:58
  But the opportunity presented itself.
• 28:00
  Agree. I put it and say no with episode
• 28:02
  2 Rihanna. That was such a good episode.
• 28:06
  That was such a good episode. I know.
• 28:09
  So freaking cool. And I wanna have her back.
• 28:10
  Me too. Yeah.
• 28:11
  She's, like we said in that episode, like we could do a
• 28:14
  whole season just of her life. The hike was so epic.
• 28:18
  I was like, my God, I have to be back here like every day.
• 28:22
  Like I just wanna live on that fucking view.
• 28:25
  Excuse me, burp one. Every part of that episode was
• 28:29
  so inspiring and cool. So go watch all of our episodes,
• 28:34
  obviously. So yeah, Rihanna.
• 28:37
  Rihanna and two of her aunts invited me on this cruise.
• 28:41
  And that had a specific start and end date.
• 28:44
  So then I started to build my trip around that.
• 28:46
  And I decided, OK, I'm going to go visit Jade in Portugal for
• 28:50
  two weeks before the cruise and then I'll do 12 days on the
• 28:53
  cruise. And then I was open-ended after
• 28:55
  that, and I spent the first two weeks up in northern Portugal in
• 29:02
  a little tiny village pretty much by myself, walking around
• 29:06
  in the forest and cooking food and sitting by a wood stove.
• 29:12
  And, and while, yeah, I did have like an idea that I would look
• 29:18
  for people to record a podcast with in this little village I
• 29:22
  was in, I saw maybe like 7 people in a day and really
• 29:27
  nobody spoke English. And so I became pretty quickly
• 29:32
  recognized that that wasn't what the energy of the trip was.
• 29:36
  I was meant to be there by myself, in quiet, in reflection,
• 29:42
  and really to have the first opportunity in like 351012 years
• 29:51
  of actual solitude with myself to process and integrate all of
• 29:57
  the trauma and lessons that I've been experiencing over the last
• 30:02
  few years. And it actually give myself
• 30:05
  space to cry and feel and release a lot of shit that I've
• 30:12
  been carrying and that I've talked about.
• 30:15
  I've like openly talked about in lots of spaces but haven't
• 30:19
  actually just been able to sit and feel it.
• 30:22
  Needed an extra layer of just like removing from the box so
• 30:26
  you could process and wrap that box differently.
• 30:29
  And do it for me, like so much of the telling of the story of
• 30:33
  it. I'm telling a story to and for
• 30:35
  somebody else, but for me to actually just sit and be like,
• 30:39
  whoa, what was that like for me? What am I still holding on to?
• 30:44
  What? What are all the thoughts that
• 30:46
  still are spiraling in my head around this, that and the other
• 30:52
  thing? And I did very intentional
• 30:57
  journaling and guided breath work and quiet intuitive walking
• 31:03
  in the forest and really got back in touch with myself.
• 31:09
  And then I spent 12 days on a cruise and I got really sick
• 31:13
  with like everything under the sun.
• 31:16
  And that was a sure sign to me that I was not meant to be on a
• 31:19
  cruise ship and I needed to go back to be alone in nature.
• 31:25
  So I got off when the cruise ended, I got off the cruise and
• 31:28
  I went and spent like 5 days outside.
• 31:31
  I went back to Portugal. I was just feeling really called
• 31:34
  to be in Portugal. And so I went back to Portugal
• 31:39
  and I spent like 5 days. Did you take?
• 31:41
  A train there or did you? Fly.
• 31:43
  I flew, yeah. The train would have been just
• 31:45
  longer than I wanted to. And it was cheaper to fly,
• 31:48
  actually. Pretty far, yeah.
• 31:52
  So yeah, flew. I flew from Portugal to Spain
• 31:56
  for the cruise and then back to Portugal for nature time.
• 31:59
  And I spent like 5 days on the coast just outside Lisbon in a
• 32:05
  small, another little, small village called Trafaria.
• 32:09
  And it was next, like next along the Bay Ocean to this really
• 32:15
  cute little beach town, Costa de Capri, Rica.
• 32:18
  And I spent like every day just walking in nature and walking on
• 32:22
  the beach and just being quiet and alone.
• 32:25
  And I did a surf lesson and hung out in the rain and in the sun.
• 32:30
  And I climbed trees and was just like being wild in nature by
• 32:34
  myself. And then and then I went and
• 32:38
  spent a week on an olive farm, dog sitting in a eucalyptus
• 32:44
  forest. So olive farm was in a
• 32:46
  eucalyptus forest and I was dog sitting for this English guy who
• 32:52
  had to go back to England for a week to take care of his elderly
• 32:55
  mother. And I dog sat for him for that
• 32:58
  week. And I kind of again, just like
• 33:01
  alone in the forest with a wood stove and taking nature walks
• 33:05
  and intentionally crying and journaling and moving.
• 33:10
  And towards the end of that week, I was still open-ended.
• 33:15
  And towards the end of that week, I just felt like so much
• 33:19
  lighter and ready to come home and excited to come home and
• 33:24
  eager to jump into home life and home projects and work and and
• 33:31
  work, work that I love and enjoy.
• 33:33
  Yeah, like work is a weird word that Jade and I talked a lot
• 33:36
  about how like the word work doesn't actually feel like it
• 33:39
  reflects the way that we interact in the world and make
• 33:44
  money. Because I love everything that I
• 33:47
  do. It doesn't like, yeah, it's hard
• 33:50
  work. There's there's labor involved,
• 33:52
  but it doesn't feel like. Work.
• 33:55
  I don't. I don't dread anything that I
• 33:58
  do. Yeah, let the word.
• 33:59
  Work. I'm trying to find a new word.
• 34:01
  It's hard because you're like, well, what else does explain it?
• 34:03
  Yeah, like labor tasks even like, I don't know, it's busy.
• 34:08
  Yeah, but the even busy isn't the right word.
• 34:10
  I say I'm full, like my life is very full.
• 34:13
  That's. Cool, that's a good way to put
• 34:15
  it in full but full rot now. Yeah, we'd had a nice a nice pre
• 34:19
  recording snack. I got to get rolling so.
• 34:23
  Well, let's then you want me to stop talking?
• 34:25
  Is that what you're saying? Well I'm just showing you what
• 34:28
  time it is. I gotta I have a showing to go
• 34:31
  show client. Yeah, so good segue.
• 34:32
  Yeah, well, let me finish real quick.
• 34:34
  Yeah, I felt ready to come home. And now I'm home and I'm loving
• 34:37
  being home and I'm so excited for everything that I have in
• 34:40
  store for this year and the years to come.
• 34:42
  And Heather had a wonderful offseason as well.
• 34:46
  Yes. And I'm sorry to do that too.
• 34:47
  I'm sorry. Apologize to them I'm.
• 34:50
  Sorry guys. I'm sorry that I have a little
• 34:52
  bit of a time constraint. Me and Emily always pre record
• 34:56
  in just a hangout session that we're just like procrastinating
• 35:00
  getting our asses in front of the camera, which that's what
• 35:04
  that's. Yeah, that's OK.
• 35:05
  Which is great for you because everybody's attention span is a
• 35:09
  little bit smaller, I feel like. So a little shorter, yeah.
• 35:12
  Anyway. But tell us what you did in the
• 35:14
  offseason real quick before while this motorboat goes by I.
• 35:17
  Was being a badass real estate agent.
• 35:21
  Yeah, anyway, I did. Three houses.
• 35:24
  We sold three houses. I sold three houses almost.
• 35:26
  A fourth, but we terminated anyway.
• 35:28
  It feels and I know I've I think I've talked about this in
• 35:31
  another episode. Maybe I don't know, maybe that
• 35:33
  was the one that we're not going to release, but like whatever.
• 35:36
  I feel so full circle with like accomplishing something that's I
• 35:44
  needed to find a way to make money and find something that
• 35:48
  fit me. And I feel so aligned with
• 35:52
  selling real estate at this moment in time.
• 35:55
  It just is really. I like it.
• 35:57
  I like it. I like the reward, I like the
• 36:00
  people, I like the houses, I like the everything.
• 36:04
  The puzzle of all of it. I do I it is a very much hold on
• 36:08
  a second. The joys of being outside.
• 36:14
  Somebody's on the river. Yep, recreating.
• 36:16
  We love river users. We do.
• 36:19
  Oh, that was the sheriff. No, no, no.
• 36:21
  OK. I thought I've been no.
• 36:24
  And yeah. So that was that's literally
• 36:28
  what I was working on while Emily, Emily was gone.
• 36:30
  Just like just working on the craft of, you know, it's not
• 36:35
  really like I'm not really selling anything.
• 36:37
  I don't feel like, like I don't want it to feel like I'm selling
• 36:40
  people. I'm not selling anything.
• 36:41
  They already want it. They.
• 36:42
  Already want it. It's more of just like, this is
• 36:44
  about people and I'm about people.
• 36:48
  Therefore I feel very aligned with this work because I it's
• 36:53
  not really a house game, it's a people game.
• 36:55
  If you're taking care of your people in it and you're sitting
• 36:58
  in integrity while helping them find their home and they're
• 37:04
  arguably one of the biggest financial decisions they'll make
• 37:07
  in their life. Maybe they'll make a few
• 37:08
  hopefully, but like, this is my calling if it feels so good.
• 37:14
  So awesome. In alignment of like helping
• 37:16
  people settle, being transparent with the process.
• 37:20
  I just had a meeting today with a girlfriend of mine.
• 37:24
  She's going to be putting her house on the market and she was
• 37:26
  like, explain, can you explain to me how this will work, blah,
• 37:29
  blah, blah. And she's like, Oh my God.
• 37:32
  She had her house listed last year with we call them discount
• 37:36
  brokers, but just like in a broker that has its own their
• 37:39
  own brokerage and tries to do things on their own.
• 37:41
  I work for a big company Re/max and she's like Oh my God I he
• 37:48
  made. It make sense?
• 37:49
  I made it make sense to her and that I'm like, amazing, awesome.
• 37:56
  I'm so glad that you're feeling. She's like, I'm feeling so much
• 37:58
  better. Like that makes so much more
• 38:00
  sense. Like how people do things and
• 38:02
  how that works and how repairs work.
• 38:05
  Because she needs a new roof on her house and it's like, OK, how
• 38:07
  are we going to do that without her needing to go into a debt
• 38:10
  essentially? Well, there's equity in her
• 38:12
  house and we can do that still. And she was just so grateful.
• 38:16
  She was just like, I could saw the light bulb moment happen
• 38:18
  with her. And I'm like, I'm so happy that
• 38:21
  I'm in this position to help you and uncover for you and make it
• 38:24
  make sense. And that's what I'm doing.
• 38:25
  I feel like I'm making it make sense to people while still
• 38:28
  learning and refining the trade of like negotiating and like
• 38:32
  trying to get people good deals and, you know, working with
• 38:35
  people. But I'm finding that there's a
• 38:37
  lot of agents that don't do that.
• 38:41
  I just pulled a little You get to fill in, you do.
• 38:43
  It isn't being filled. And it just feels really good.
• 38:45
  So for me, it's about the people and the reward of that obviously
• 38:50
  is a nice Commission. But like it feels all really
• 38:54
  well-rounded and that's what I love about it.
• 38:56
  I love it. So that's what I was working on
• 38:58
  and I feel already very grateful.
• 39:00
  I'm almost six months in and so three houses, six months maybe
• 39:05
  like, well, it was gonna be a fourth we, but I'm still working
• 39:08
  with those clients and they're wonderful.
• 39:10
  And that's who I'm meeting in 7 minutes or 8, or, yeah, 7, no, 6
• 39:15
  minutes. Well, all right.
• 39:17
  I'm so proud of you. I think that proud of you.
• 39:20
  Look at all the work you've done you.
• 39:21
  Too. This was a year, all the work
• 39:23
  we're doing. Yay.
• 39:26
  This was a good year and let's talk a little bit really quick I
• 39:29
  can. OK, I can be so.
• 39:30
  They're my friends. I've literally made friends with
• 39:32
  strangers and they're like, we exchanged presents for
• 39:36
  Christmas. We hang out like.
• 39:38
  They're and when you tell them, sorry, I was recording my first
• 39:40
  little podcast episode of the season, they'll be like, when
• 39:42
  does it come out? When do we get?
• 39:43
  To see it, they will. They will.
• 39:45
  Come here. So we're getting real excited
• 39:48
  for this season. In our in our reflections, we
• 39:55
  found that and in in this evolution of the podcast, you
• 40:01
  know, like we've said, we are really rooted here in Southern
• 40:04
  Oregon and our lives are full and busy here.
• 40:08
  And while we have connections to incredible people throughout the
• 40:14
  region and the state and the country, we are finding that
• 40:19
  overwhelmingly the stories that exist already here in the people
• 40:24
  in Southern Oregon. Are enough and are amazing and
• 40:29
  profound and we love this place. And there are so many stories
• 40:34
  about why people are here, why they choose to live here, why
• 40:38
  their lives brought them here, that are worth telling.
• 40:41
  So this season is really going to be focused on the stories of
• 40:46
  Southern Oregon and the stories of the people who eat, sleep,
• 40:50
  breathe, live in the outdoors and Southern Oregon.
• 40:53
  Yeah. So I want to also add that it's
• 40:55
  just we're just adding a layer. We're going to be talking about
• 40:58
  all those profound moments in the outdoors that change people
• 41:02
  still uncovering that thread from childhood to what they do
• 41:06
  now, but also adding in that layer of Southern Oregon now and
• 41:10
  asking some questions around that.
• 41:11
  Why do you stay here? Why do you what, what do you
• 41:14
  love here? You know what?
• 41:16
  What is it about this place? What happened?
• 41:18
  Yeah, what what brought you here and why why do you choose to
• 41:21
  stay here? Right, right.
• 41:23
  Having grown up here, there's often been this like story about
• 41:29
  the area that the nature is beautiful, but the people
• 41:33
  aren't. And we're here to say no, no,
• 41:36
  no, the nature is beautiful and the people absolutely are.
• 41:40
  There are some of the most amazing, interesting, beautiful
• 41:45
  people who live here that we get to call our friends and our
• 41:48
  neighbors and our community members.
• 41:50
  And not only are we going to tell their story, but we're
• 41:54
  going to be telling the stories of Southern Oregon.
• 41:56
  Still in the outdoors, still revolving around outdoor.
• 42:01
  Everything. Everything just now an added
• 42:04
  layer of staying here because our original goal was to like
• 42:07
  broaden the horizon and like try to do some trips to bend to link
• 42:10
  up with people or more just centralized area.
• 42:13
  But now we're finding we're just going to hone it into here.
• 42:15
  We'll see where the path takes us, where Gab wants us to go
• 42:18
  next. But yeah, focusing in here.
• 42:20
  So just adding that extra layer. Emily had that epiphany last
• 42:24
  night and this morning and she brought it to me, or she's
• 42:28
  mentioned it and I was like, yes.
• 42:30
  Yeah. Yeah, and it's great.
• 42:32
  It makes so much sense. So that's what you have to look
• 42:34
  forward to. Just more like, I don't know,
• 42:38
  just more layers, more layers. Still still the all wildly.
• 42:42
  Yes, yeah. And because we're going to
• 42:45
  continue to grow, because this is just a baby, every season
• 42:48
  will bring some some new epiphany and some new lesson.
• 42:51
  And it'll always be the same thread.
• 42:54
  But. And I think our we'll probably
• 42:56
  have another offseason next winter to yeah, cuz Emily has a
• 43:00
  pretty strict summer schedule. And I usually need a break in
• 43:06
  the winter. To maybe an up and coming like
• 43:09
  hiking club thing to be on the horizon if you wanna like hike
• 43:13
  with us in the mornings. Me, me and Emily.
• 43:18
  Or just maybe Emily or just me or whatever, we're gonna explore
• 43:21
  those ideas of. There's more community building
• 43:23
  around the podcast, too. We wanna say to follow us on all
• 43:28
  of our social media for updates, but most likely most of the
• 43:32
  updates will come in the episodes.
• 43:34
  So like, follow, share, subscribe, get your friends
• 43:39
  listening. And if you know people in
• 43:41
  Southern Oregon, if you don't live in Southern Oregon and you
• 43:43
  know people in Southern Oregon who would make great guests and
• 43:46
  great listeners, please send them our way.
• 43:48
  Also, I'd like to ask if you know any small business owners
• 43:52
  that you think are aligned with this mission?
• 43:54
  We are going to be. We are open for sponsors.
• 43:57
  Yeah, we're gonna be vision around for our next how to like
• 44:02
  monetize this a little bit and work on that whole realm of
• 44:06
  project and business around the podcast as well.
• 44:09
  So if there's anybody that has any niche gadget, outdoor
• 44:13
  service or outdoor gear or anything that you think would be
• 44:18
  paired, no alcohol, we are down. You're welcome.
• 44:22
  I don't really drink either, so it's not a big deal.
• 44:24
  But we're looking for those people that really align that
• 44:28
  wanna do some sort of a sponsorship and we have a bunch
• 44:30
  of ideas for that. So it doesn't just have to be
• 44:32
  like a big monetary lump sum or anything like that, even though
• 44:35
  that would be such a blessing. It would be more of just what we
• 44:39
  could collaborate on. Yeah, right now we've done all
• 44:42
  of this just out of our own time and money and free will, and we
• 44:48
  really would like to make this be financially sustainable so
• 44:52
  that this can be at least my full time job and help pay the
• 44:57
  bills. And I think we do have a goal
• 44:58
  also of like maybe starting a Patreon with some added stuff,
• 45:02
  maybe like even deeper discount codes.
• 45:05
  Deeper dives and stories and behind the scenes and so tell us
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  and and keep. You down, We're down.
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  Yeah, we love, we love ideas. But I think the number one thing
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  just like you trying to find a long term Airbnb guest or an
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  intermediate to fill mid term. Put it out there, you got.
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  To put it out there. So we're looking for sponsors
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  and we are. So just let us know if you have
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  any ideas around that for us. We're open and there's the
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  Kitty. And now we're going to say I'm
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  Emily. And I'm Heather.
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  And together we're go wildly. Woohoo, we did it.
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  Love you. I love you.
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