Latest / Get Into Gate: A Stargate Podcast / Episode 304: The Prodigal (SG-A 5.14)
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- 0:25Speaker 1: Get into K episode three hundred and four. We're so
- 0:31Speaker 1: close to Pittball territory.
- 0:33Speaker 2: Master three or four?
- 0:34Speaker 1: Master three or four?
- 0:35Speaker 2: Isn't that? That's what my parents used to call me
- 0:37Speaker 2: when I was little because I wasn't a misty yet. Yeah,
- 0:40Speaker 2: apparently the young mister is master. Yeah, in the same
- 0:42Speaker 2: way miss is yet is. Yeah.
- 0:44Speaker 1: I used to cut master. I used to. I used
- 0:46Speaker 1: to love that because, like, you know, you look at
- 0:47Speaker 1: those forms that you'd have to tick and there would
- 0:49Speaker 1: be a mister, then be a missus, a miss or
- 0:52Speaker 1: a miss And I'm like, what about what do I
- 0:55Speaker 1: get called?
- 0:55Speaker 2: Like?
- 0:55Speaker 1: If I'm not a miss, I'm not I'm not married. Mum,
- 0:57Speaker 1: what do they called me? She has master? Master Louis,
- 1:00Speaker 1: Are you joking? That's brilliant?
- 1:03Speaker 2: Master Lewis.
- 1:03Speaker 1: I referred to myself the other week on air at
- 1:06Speaker 1: workers as Mitchell of Burkedale because I was talking to something.
- 1:10Speaker 1: One of our callers was from Berkdale, That's the suburb
- 1:12Speaker 1: I live in. And then LUTSI topped it up one
- 1:14Speaker 1: of my co workers and said, of House Lewis, you know,
- 1:16Speaker 1: like Mitchell love Burkedoor, Mitchell from Berkedale, of House Lewis.
- 1:19Speaker 1: I was like, oh oh I like that.
- 1:22Speaker 2: I like that you can't use master anymore.
- 1:24Speaker 1: Though, No, got some connotation.
- 1:27Speaker 2: Yeah, like now it's what is it's the primary bedroom,
- 1:29Speaker 2: not the master bedroom. Off, what's what's that? You're pro slavery? Okay,
- 1:35Speaker 2: all right, no worries. That's oh the views expressed by
- 1:39Speaker 2: Master Lewis of Birkdale, of House Lewis.
- 1:41Speaker 1: Damn it. Yeah, they're really going to find me using
- 1:43Speaker 1: and now aren't they. We're here to talk about some
- 1:45Speaker 1: stuck Actually no, if you know what, First of all,
- 1:47Speaker 1: why why did you not when you said they call
- 1:50Speaker 1: me master? I think you meant they call master.
- 1:52Speaker 2: You said three or four because he's mister three oh five, right,
- 1:56Speaker 2: so you have to go one back.
- 1:57Speaker 1: From that master three or four? Because I was like,
- 1:58Speaker 1: what what happened?
- 1:59Speaker 2: Well, we we we flipped so wild and I actually
- 2:02Speaker 2: forgot that that was what you had said.
- 2:03Speaker 1: Yeah, I go to because I'm like, I could have
- 2:05Speaker 1: been missed three or four and Master three or four
- 2:07Speaker 1: because my birthday is April thirty.
- 2:10Speaker 2: Oh yeah.
- 2:10Speaker 1: In Australia we say date, month, year, the correct.
- 2:13Speaker 2: Way to do it. Yeah, like hear that, Jacob, hear
- 2:16Speaker 2: that Jacob the correct way to day.
- 2:17Speaker 1: They make a point when they go, hey, what do
- 2:18Speaker 1: you April thirty? If I say April thirty, that is
- 2:21Speaker 1: four thirty. But it's like when you say April thirty
- 2:23Speaker 1: or you say the thirtieth of the fourth, and yeah.
- 2:26Speaker 2: Yeah you're going seconds, minutes, hours, Yes, you know what
- 2:30Speaker 2: I mean, like it goes, it goes that way. Yeah,
- 2:32Speaker 2: you know when you tell the time and you go
- 2:34Speaker 2: it's nine thirty more nights me when you write it,
- 2:36Speaker 2: I know when you're write when you say it, I
- 2:38Speaker 2: don't care if you say April thirty or thirtieth of April.
- 2:40Speaker 1: I don't care. I don't like when people when they
- 2:42Speaker 1: say the number and then the month, but they don't
- 2:43Speaker 1: put the the st or the you know when they say,
- 2:47Speaker 1: you know, thirty April.
- 2:49Speaker 2: No, what do we what are we talking?
- 2:51Speaker 1: What do we do it?
- 2:52Speaker 2: I on a daily basis have to email dates to
- 2:55Speaker 2: my clients for like when jobs are happening, that kind
- 2:57Speaker 2: of stuff. And I am any Nazi. I am very
- 3:01Speaker 2: pedantic foray.
- 3:05Speaker 1: Yeah I like to have a master bedroom. But you're
- 3:08Speaker 1: a full Nazi about.
- 3:09Speaker 2: What grammar you know? And the th H the r D.
- 3:12Speaker 1: That's why you say prolific on Twitter? Mate, is oh, yeah,
- 3:15Speaker 1: you love being a grammar nazi. Yeah, and I'll stand
- 3:18Speaker 1: by that if you if you like, because I'm like
- 3:20Speaker 1: that too. If you missed some punctuation, Mate, I am
- 3:23Speaker 1: going to I'm sorry, whatever point you're trying to make. Yeah,
- 3:26Speaker 1: I'm one of.
- 3:27Speaker 2: Those petty people. I've actually been nervous of incurring your
- 3:32Speaker 2: wrath in that. Whereas like sometimes on a text, I
- 3:35Speaker 2: will like on a group message, all of like realized
- 3:37Speaker 2: that I've used the wrong there or the wrong too. Well,
- 3:39Speaker 2: i should say autocorrect has put the wrong and I'm like, oh,
- 3:43Speaker 2: I'm not leaving that there to leave myself open for
- 3:44Speaker 2: a for a whoopan, So I will go back in
- 3:47Speaker 2: and I will change it to the right. Thank God
- 3:49Speaker 2: for the edit button, I know.
- 3:50Speaker 1: But now when it comes unmedited, I know, I hate that.
- 3:53Speaker 1: I just want to see what he got the wrong?
- 3:56Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, there's another one. Yeah, see that. That's because
- 3:59Speaker 2: I just don't want incur the wrath of Master Mitchell
- 4:02Speaker 2: of Birkdale.
- 4:03Speaker 1: Thank you. Yeah, let's move on. We are here to
- 4:07Speaker 1: talk about Prodigal episode number fourteen, season five of Stargate
- 4:15Speaker 1: Atlantis I believe.
- 4:17Speaker 2: Look, i'll start early. I believe the final season of
- 4:19Speaker 2: Deep Space nine had an episode called the Prodigal.
- 4:22Speaker 1: Why do you do that? Why do you do anyhow?
- 4:25Speaker 2: It's just the things that stick in my head. I'm
- 4:27Speaker 2: gonna look it up now. I know it's I know
- 4:28Speaker 2: it's an episode about Toy, not Tory, about Ezri.
- 4:32Speaker 1: But you say that like I'm supposed to understand it. Yeah,
- 4:37Speaker 1: and old Foe bent On revel. Oh, yep, the girl.
- 4:40Speaker 2: From Whispers from a couple of weeks ago, Remember the
- 4:42Speaker 2: long with a short, little pixie haircut, that that bear
- 4:44Speaker 2: kit was down. That's Ezri Dax from d Space nine. Sure, yeah,
- 4:50Speaker 2: I said that in the episode. You wouldn't remember, are
- 4:52Speaker 2: you joking? Of course I don't remember. I could have
- 4:55Speaker 2: told you her entire IMDb and you still wouldn't have remembered.
- 4:58Speaker 1: An Old Foe bent and and infiltrates the gate room
- 5:02Speaker 1: to take control of Atlantis.
- 5:05Speaker 2: Prodigal Daughter, it was called, it's called Prodigal Daughter.
- 5:08Speaker 1: Is this is still going?
- 5:09Speaker 2: This is obviously the Prodigal Sun. So you still haven't
- 5:14Speaker 2: played the audio, So I'm going to keep going. This
- 5:16Speaker 2: is all one as far as I'm concerned until you
- 5:18Speaker 2: play the Little Jesus.
- 5:19Speaker 1: We better hurry up.
- 5:21Speaker 2: Okay, that was view bread and you're welcome. I know
- 5:24Speaker 2: how much you hate it when Rinin doesn't play the audio.
- 5:26Speaker 1: What do you think? What do you think? What do
- 5:31Speaker 1: I think?
- 5:34Speaker 2: Keep that in?
- 5:37Speaker 1: I think I had. I must have watched the first
- 5:41Speaker 1: couple of minutes of this and then had to have
- 5:43Speaker 1: stopped and then came back. So I watched up until
- 5:47Speaker 1: sometime after it had up, you know, guest starring conn Treneer.
- 5:51Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, okay, Michael's in this, But because it
- 5:55Speaker 1: was like, oh wow, the powers out except for the
- 5:57Speaker 1: control room cut to credits, it was like such a
- 5:59Speaker 1: lack line to tease to what's going to come up
- 6:02Speaker 1: for the actual so I wasn't necessarily thinking, oh, Michael's
- 6:06Speaker 1: got to do that once I saw Conna tron his name.
- 6:08Speaker 1: But then when I came back to it very very
- 6:10Speaker 1: soon after I must have cut there, it was still
- 6:12Speaker 1: something of a surprise. So I was kind of glad
- 6:14Speaker 1: that I, okay, got it spoilt, but then it got
- 6:16Speaker 1: to it got sort of saved for me along the way,
- 6:19Speaker 1: but I'd kind of forgotten about what happened the last
- 6:23Speaker 1: time that we saw Michael, it was only through dialogue,
- 6:25Speaker 1: and they're like, I thought we killed him. Well, we
- 6:27Speaker 1: saw the ship blow up, but of course he might
- 6:28Speaker 1: have gotten off, and I'm like, oh, that's right, that happened,
- 6:31Speaker 1: the thing in the back, when the thing happened, and yeah, okay, what.
- 6:33Speaker 2: Else would have happened to the magic invisible puddle jump up?
- 6:36Speaker 2: Exactly exactly so, and there's questions of how did Michael
- 6:40Speaker 2: operate it without the atagh but he's been he's been
- 6:44Speaker 2: playing around with his DNA for years now, so maybe
- 6:47Speaker 2: he's given himself that didnk not give it was his voice.
- 6:49Speaker 1: A little bit more plams than usual.
- 6:52Speaker 2: I feel like I didn't notice that. I only noticed
- 6:54Speaker 2: all the all the veins in his face. Yeah, he
- 6:56Speaker 2: didn't look well, No, he looks stressed. He looks And
- 6:59Speaker 2: that was one of my disappointments is this whole episode
- 7:01Speaker 2: was based around he wanted Turan so that he could
- 7:06Speaker 2: use Tourn's like, you know, hybrid DNA because Tauran is just,
- 7:09Speaker 2: you know, the first child of a hybrid, but also
- 7:12Speaker 2: Taylor has raised DNA as well, and he's like, oh,
- 7:15Speaker 2: it's so that I can you know, use it to
- 7:18Speaker 2: have greater control over the hybrids, and I'm like, I
- 7:21Speaker 2: feel like the hybrids are pretty well under control. So yeah,
- 7:24Speaker 2: I actually because literally all I remembered about this episode
- 7:28Speaker 2: was the end when he falls, well, when Taylor you know,
- 7:30Speaker 2: stops on his feet. But I kind of wished it
- 7:33Speaker 2: had been a situation where it was like, oh, something
- 7:36Speaker 2: was wrong with all the messing around that he'd done
- 7:38Speaker 2: with his DNA, he was degrading, he was on his
- 7:41Speaker 2: way out or something like that, and it was Torren's
- 7:45Speaker 2: DNA that would revive him or you know, keep him
- 7:48Speaker 2: alive or something like that. I feel like there could
- 7:51Speaker 2: have been more stakes towards this, you know, brazen attack
- 7:53Speaker 2: that Michael's put on Atlantis. So I was like, oh,
- 7:56Speaker 2: he just wants he just wants torn Well, he obviously
- 7:58Speaker 2: wants Taylor for other reason, but.
- 8:01Speaker 1: Yeah, that was that was that was a pitch. And
- 8:05Speaker 1: he's like, Hey, look, let's everything that's ever happened. I
- 8:10Speaker 1: think I'm willing to marry you and and and take
- 8:14Speaker 1: take take care of your baby. Who do you think
- 8:17Speaker 1: you're rescuing this woman? What do you start living on
- 8:19Speaker 1: the street? Mate?
- 8:20Speaker 2: Look, I have very conflicting thoughts about AI and using that.
- 8:24Speaker 2: But I really would love someone or some kind of
- 8:27Speaker 2: AI to do up Michael singing somewhere that's green from
- 8:31Speaker 2: Little Shop of Horrors, you know, a wide piked fence,
- 8:34Speaker 2: and he's just like having this big imagination, like just him,
- 8:37Speaker 2: Taylor and touring, just having this beautiful life together, him
- 8:40Speaker 2: as a housewife, all that kind of stuff. Because yeah,
- 8:43Speaker 2: that's that's the vibe. The last time we kind of
- 8:45Speaker 2: got that slight vibe, I think was in Michael's first
- 8:49Speaker 2: episode when like he escapes and he and Taylor are
- 8:53Speaker 2: kind of on that on that planet, but he's also
- 8:56Speaker 2: like about to feed on her. So I feel like
- 8:58Speaker 2: that plot thread kind of fell away a lot. But
- 9:01Speaker 2: then yeah, it just came back here for the final episode,
- 9:04Speaker 2: sort of last minute.
- 9:06Speaker 1: So all right, there was something that I was just about
- 9:09Speaker 1: to bring up. But I have had a look at
- 9:11Speaker 1: some of the audio because I love how you titled
- 9:13Speaker 1: the audio. I mean, we've brought this up on a
- 9:15Speaker 1: previous podcast. Yeah, you've titled one. I think that was
- 9:21Speaker 1: a line that became I think my favorite part of
- 9:24Speaker 1: the episode.
- 9:24Speaker 2: So I'm just gonna get rogue here is it because
- 9:26Speaker 2: you identified with it.
- 9:28Speaker 1: Uh, maybe not. Okay, So I'm gonna play it and
- 9:32Speaker 1: then well I'm just going rogue. If it's not what
- 9:34Speaker 1: I thought. You can just talk about it because you
- 9:37Speaker 1: obviously picked it up for a reason. It's two years ago.
- 9:39Speaker 2: We're outing we can already fix them.
- 9:42Speaker 1: Okay, No, oh, you've got to be kidding me.
- 9:44Speaker 2: It was the next thing on my list you said
- 9:46Speaker 2: you were going to fix. I don't know when I
- 9:47Speaker 2: was getting to what I swear.
- 9:49Speaker 1: And you had two years it was busy, No wonder
- 9:54Speaker 1: you titled that bitch.
- 9:55Speaker 2: Yeah, that's so see, Yeah, that's you. And it's like,
- 9:59Speaker 2: have you have you seen that movie yet? No, you've
- 10:01Speaker 2: had two years.
- 10:03Speaker 1: Getting around so no, um, yeah, that's not what I
- 10:09Speaker 1: was thinking. Actually, in playing that, I remember it wasn't
- 10:11Speaker 1: I was busy. It was let's get to work, was
- 10:14Speaker 1: the line that was said by Michael. But that I
- 10:18Speaker 1: I was watching the episode on my phone at that point.
- 10:20Speaker 1: I remember just walking in the stairs and I hit
- 10:23Speaker 1: like halfway when he said that, and I'm like, hang on,
- 10:25Speaker 1: Oh that feels a little too real. It stopped me
- 10:28Speaker 1: in my tracks because watching someone else go hang on.
- 10:31Speaker 1: But yeah, you said you fixed it's like, oh shit, um,
- 10:36Speaker 1: what about well let me give it. No, let me
- 10:38Speaker 1: let me, let me, let me, let me talk around it,
- 10:41Speaker 1: try and save myself. So myself shiit, No I did,
- 10:43Speaker 1: I haven't done it. It's like two years and I'm like, oh, yeah,
- 10:45Speaker 1: you've got there's no way to bounce back from that, Ronnie.
- 10:48Speaker 1: That's two years. And thinking if I was playing this
- 10:51Speaker 1: on speakers and not in headphones, Sarah would be like, ah,
- 10:54Speaker 1: that sounds like no, my my.
- 10:59Speaker 2: Look at that box out in the garage.
- 11:00Speaker 1: Holy shit, man, Like okay, it's we're about to hit
- 11:05Speaker 1: I'm going to say bang on three years since she
- 11:07Speaker 1: went over her brother lives overseas. She went with her
- 11:09Speaker 1: parents to go visit, and I just remember when she
- 11:11Speaker 1: was away for like a week and I'm like, I'm
- 11:13Speaker 1: finally going to tear into Like we got a little
- 11:16Speaker 1: walk in robe and I had a bunch of shit
- 11:19Speaker 1: in there. I remember sitting in there one night going
- 11:20Speaker 1: I'm going to get this done. I'm going to get
- 11:22Speaker 1: all the all the boxes that are hanging around and
- 11:24Speaker 1: just just the mess that are cleaned up. It's a
- 11:26Speaker 1: bit clutted. And I got like, let's say I got
- 11:30Speaker 1: ninety two percent of it done and then you know,
- 11:32Speaker 1: the next day she came home a month ago, two
- 11:38Speaker 1: months ago, I actually like, it's still not done, but
- 11:42Speaker 1: oh my Christ, is it clean. But literally, for three
- 11:44Speaker 1: years it's just been like no different. Like for the
- 11:46Speaker 1: first year in a bit we lived in that house,
- 11:48Speaker 1: next to nothing was done about it. She was gone
- 11:50Speaker 1: for a week, and I'm like, that's what I'm going
- 11:52Speaker 1: to do. That's almost a gift. She'll be able to
- 11:54Speaker 1: walk home, walk into that little room and be able
- 11:56Speaker 1: to actually get in and around it far easier. And
- 11:59Speaker 1: then when I didn't finish it on my that's right.
- 12:01Speaker 1: It doesn't matter whether she's home or not. I'll just
- 12:03Speaker 1: get it done. And it took me nearly three years
- 12:06Speaker 1: to do it again.
- 12:07Speaker 2: Look, I'm gonna I'm gonna just skip over the opening
- 12:11Speaker 2: and gave me there about so she so she can
- 12:13Speaker 2: get in wider and easier, or whatever you said was.
- 12:16Speaker 1: She could walk in easier. How dare you look?
- 12:20Speaker 2: You know me, I'm not a storytopper. I've never been
- 12:22Speaker 2: a storytopper. But I see that, and I raise you.
- 12:26Speaker 2: My mother passed away four and a half years ago.
- 12:30Speaker 2: She lived in the same house my entire life. That
- 12:33Speaker 2: house was built when I was born, So there was
- 12:35Speaker 2: a lot of stuff to clear out of her house,
- 12:37Speaker 2: including just an entire room's worth of photo albums like
- 12:41Speaker 2: her entire life. She she was the youngest child of eleven.
- 12:44Speaker 2: There's a lot of that stuff. And then obviously I'm
- 12:47Speaker 2: the youngest child of three. You know, there's a lot
- 12:49Speaker 2: of a lot of stuff going on. My elder sister,
- 12:52Speaker 2: the useless bitch, make sure that well.
- 12:58Speaker 1: Sorry, Just.
- 13:00Speaker 2: So we were like, okay, what do we do with
- 13:02Speaker 2: all these photos because like some of our annies and
- 13:03Speaker 2: uncles will want them, Like what do we you know,
- 13:06Speaker 2: And the older sister goes, well, I'll digitize them all.
- 13:08Speaker 2: And the way we do, everyone can have a copy
- 13:11Speaker 2: of it. You know, I'm okay, yeah, cool. We all
- 13:13Speaker 2: pitched in some money and so she get this fancy
- 13:15Speaker 2: thing where you put the photos in and you know,
- 13:17Speaker 2: hires scans and digitizes them. And then mum had this
- 13:21Speaker 2: beautiful photo frame in her house that was it was
- 13:24Speaker 2: a timber frame with like parwashell inserts in it, shadow nice,
- 13:28Speaker 2: And I was like, that's beautiful. I'm gonna I'm gonna
- 13:31Speaker 2: paint the frame of that black leave the Parwa shell
- 13:33Speaker 2: and I'll put a beautifl photo, beautiful photo of mum
- 13:35Speaker 2: in there, and I'll put that up on my wall.
- 13:37Speaker 2: Still don't have it. It's been four and a half years.
- 13:41Speaker 2: Still don't have all those photos from my elder sister,
- 13:45Speaker 2: who's the only one in our family who doesn't have
- 13:46Speaker 2: a job and doesn't work because she's the lady of
- 13:49Speaker 2: leisure at home. She still doesn't have it.
- 13:52Speaker 1: So let this be the reminder. Well, the bit that
- 14:02Speaker 1: I was going to bring up was Michael going into
- 14:06Speaker 1: talk to Taylor and he sort of not so much
- 14:10Speaker 1: outlies the plan, but basically, you know, we get to
- 14:12Speaker 1: then see how he got there, and you know, yeah,
- 14:17Speaker 1: I'm like, oh yeah, we'd actually didn't see how we
- 14:19Speaker 1: got in there, and then you know how Ronan got
- 14:22Speaker 1: from point A to point B where we'd already you know,
- 14:24Speaker 1: seen him.
- 14:25Speaker 2: It was very sneaky because if you notice when you
- 14:26Speaker 2: watch the opening, Woolsey's reaction to Ronan saying I can't read,
- 14:32Speaker 2: I don't I can't write, and I can't I don't
- 14:33Speaker 2: really talk, and his reaction when they play the flashback
- 14:37Speaker 2: they actually play the incoming Unscheduled off World activation thing
- 14:42Speaker 2: over the top of that the second time. Yeah, very
- 14:44Speaker 2: very clever, sneaky.
- 14:45Speaker 1: Yeah. And then it gets to a point where they
- 14:48Speaker 1: get it takes out of the control room and everybody
- 14:50Speaker 1: stunned on the ground and then Okay, we've taken over this. Okay,
- 14:53Speaker 1: we've got control of this room. Blah blah blah. And
- 14:55Speaker 1: then Michael goes, Okay, now we can get to work,
- 14:59Speaker 1: and then it cuts back to to him in the
- 15:00Speaker 1: room with Taylor and she says, get to work on what.
- 15:03Speaker 1: And I'm like, is he telling the story for Vader?
- 15:05Speaker 3: Yeah?
- 15:06Speaker 1: Yeah, And then I then I said over here, yeah,
- 15:08Speaker 1: and then I went.
- 15:08Speaker 2: Type type, type, type type, and then and then Woolsey
- 15:10Speaker 2: looked like this, even though Michael.
- 15:13Speaker 1: I think, wola, because you know Wolsey, Oh on that guy,
- 15:16Speaker 1: Oh Richard. And then I walk over and I say,
- 15:18Speaker 1: very confidently, I stand up, and as music swelled behind me, Taylor,
- 15:21Speaker 1: trust me, there was music there, and I said, let's
- 15:24Speaker 1: get to work, and then that naturally would feed into
- 15:27Speaker 1: her saying get to work on what. It just like,
- 15:29Speaker 1: it just took me out of the episode for a second,
- 15:31Speaker 1: the idea that he was telling the story with such
- 15:36Speaker 1: detail that they felt like that was the way to
- 15:38Speaker 1: like bring us back into the present time scene, to
- 15:42Speaker 1: to write that as the piece of dialogue. I just
- 15:45Speaker 1: absolutely no, not. Its brilliant.
- 15:46Speaker 2: You know what I got? I got something that I
- 15:47Speaker 2: can add to that for you, hold on, hold on
- 15:50Speaker 2: it be worth it? I be worth if worth if
- 15:51Speaker 2: be worth, if be worth it?
- 15:53Speaker 1: What got it?
- 15:57Speaker 2: Gotta work?
- 15:58Speaker 1: Can you see him doing that as he he's absolutely
- 16:01Speaker 1: that was like her here leading into this becoming a
- 16:03Speaker 1: musical episode.
- 16:05Speaker 2: In Michael retelling the story to Taylor, he pulled out
- 16:08Speaker 2: his phone like I did, and just started playing that
- 16:10Speaker 2: let's work by atis if everyone wants to know him
- 16:12Speaker 2: my new K pop obsession and anyone that you know
- 16:16Speaker 2: wants to wants to make that for us Alban Alban
- 16:19Speaker 2: used to do a lot, a bunch of that stuff.
- 16:21Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know, just for for a Michael episode.
- 16:24Speaker 1: It just felt like, and I guess that's exactly what
- 16:27Speaker 1: it was like, Okay, we didn't see it's not like
- 16:29Speaker 1: we saw him die, and yet somehow still he is.
- 16:32Speaker 1: He is back, but it still felt like an epilogue
- 16:36Speaker 1: to Michael, and they've just sort of like brought him
- 16:38Speaker 1: back in almost from the dead because of how, like
- 16:41Speaker 1: you said, you were picking up on the on the
- 16:42Speaker 1: makeup difference, isn't it? And I thought his voice sounded
- 16:45Speaker 1: a little bit funny and just as much confidence as
- 16:48Speaker 1: he tried to admit that he was feeling, which you know,
- 16:51Speaker 1: he just wasn't. He was just he was stressed, and
- 16:53Speaker 1: he didn't think that, you know, I'm gonna blow up
- 16:55Speaker 1: the base like cool sick, now blow it up because
- 16:58Speaker 1: we're not coming with you? Oh well, how bad I
- 17:01Speaker 1: do this? Nah? Not interested? Ah shit, Uh well this
- 17:05Speaker 1: would be I've got his DNA anyway, so hah. And
- 17:10Speaker 1: like nothing, no point did anything really ever work for him,
- 17:13Speaker 1: And he just always looked like he was behind the
- 17:15Speaker 1: eight ball, even though he was for a good chunk
- 17:16Speaker 1: of this episode in control of what was happening. But
- 17:19Speaker 1: I just didn't feel like it had the Michael threat
- 17:22Speaker 1: that we've always seemed to have had in a lot
- 17:24Speaker 1: of other episodes, maybe when we're off, maybe just being
- 17:26Speaker 1: back at Atlantis that was too stressful for his head,
- 17:28Speaker 1: Like mentally, he was unstable because of where he is,
- 17:31Speaker 1: whereas usually when we've been out on Hive ships or
- 17:33Speaker 1: either planets or his labs and all that sort of stuff.
- 17:36Speaker 1: He has been in control and he does seem like
- 17:38Speaker 1: this quite unstoppable.
- 17:40Speaker 2: Threat and the way come back to the scene of
- 17:41Speaker 2: the crime. Yeah yeah, yeah. I think the other thing too,
- 17:43Speaker 2: is his outfit was really weird.
- 17:46Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 17:46Speaker 2: He looked like a cross between like Geppetto from Pinocchio.
- 17:52Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, and remember Finster from Power Rangers, the guy
- 17:56Speaker 2: that would make all the monsters. Yes, he has like
- 17:57Speaker 2: a little apron in the front with whatever Michael's wearing.
- 18:01Speaker 2: It looked like some kind of alien overall apron thing.
- 18:04Speaker 2: It just it was a very weird outfit compared to
- 18:06Speaker 2: like his you know, red crocodile skin and whatever he
- 18:09Speaker 2: had last time and stuff like that. She just didn't
- 18:11Speaker 2: look as threatening out a bit of it he had.
- 18:13Speaker 2: He had grandpa energy.
- 18:15Speaker 1: Yeah, a little bit, that's me.
- 18:16Speaker 2: He just didn't just didn't seem that.
- 18:18Speaker 1: The grandpas can't be threatening.
- 18:19Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not on the.
- 18:23Speaker 1: Just say that, but yeah, it was just an odd
- 18:27Speaker 1: sort of episode. I just felt like, Okay, it's just
- 18:29Speaker 1: it just didn't I didn't have the omph that I
- 18:31Speaker 1: thought that it was going to as as it went on.
- 18:34Speaker 1: But at the same time, it gave I think Taylor
- 18:38Speaker 1: as uh not held back in a way, but I
- 18:41Speaker 1: mean she was forced to carry around her baby the
- 18:44Speaker 1: entire time, so physically there was only going to be
- 18:46Speaker 1: so much she could do when she was never going
- 18:48Speaker 1: to put her baby down.
- 18:49Speaker 2: Right now, this is something that I wanted to ask
- 18:51Speaker 2: you as as the only parent in the room, something
- 18:54Speaker 2: that I personally found a little out of character for Taylor.
- 18:58Speaker 2: I guess pre to and Taylor like pre mother Taylor
- 19:02Speaker 2: is when she hid in the little in the panel
- 19:06Speaker 2: in the wall, I would have expected Taylor to put
- 19:11Speaker 2: Taurin in there, close it up, then go and kick
- 19:16Speaker 2: some asks. I felt very it felt very out of
- 19:20Speaker 2: character for what I expect Taylor to do. But Taylor's
- 19:24Speaker 2: a mother now, so her priorities are very much changed,
- 19:27Speaker 2: so I understand her doing that. But it just I
- 19:31Speaker 2: almost wish there was a scene at the end. I mean,
- 19:33Speaker 2: obviously we got a massive payoff with the way she
- 19:36Speaker 2: just dirtily just did Michael. She's just like, I'm you
- 19:39Speaker 2: threaten my son. I have zero tolerance for you, piece
- 19:44Speaker 2: of shit. I'm not just gonna let you fall. I'm
- 19:46Speaker 2: gonna stomp your pinky until you let him. Just drag
- 19:53Speaker 2: it out and just let him know that she's the mother.
- 19:56Speaker 1: Did John say Taylor, like, don't do it. You know
- 19:58Speaker 1: this is not you because I someone yelled out to
- 20:01Speaker 1: her right.
- 20:01Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, because like he Michael had just beaten the
- 20:04Speaker 2: shit out of John. Yeah, and then Taylor came in
- 20:06Speaker 2: and went hahaha boom yeah, like uh yeah, I feel
- 20:10Speaker 2: like he was like Taylor, you.
- 20:12Speaker 1: Know, whereas I'm like he would want to kill him
- 20:14Speaker 1: more than anybody, you know. And also especially with the
- 20:19Speaker 1: the beginning of I guess the whole thing book ended
- 20:22Speaker 1: it really about the reports. Yeah, okay, it was. There
- 20:26Speaker 1: is a bit of a joke for Ronan to be like, yeah,
- 20:28Speaker 1: this happened, and this happened, and then this happened and
- 20:29Speaker 1: we won end of mission reports like ah hah.
- 20:31Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I've got to hear for You've got to
- 20:33Speaker 2: here for you mission report.
- 20:36Speaker 1: Michael and vaded Atlantis tried to blow it up. We
- 20:40Speaker 1: stopped him, and a report sigh, you god damn it,
- 20:48Speaker 1: which you know, it's perfect to Ronan's character. Yeah, but
- 20:52Speaker 1: I thought, oh do they is this where they sort
- 20:54Speaker 1: of fudge some details, like they go up and they go, oh,
- 20:56Speaker 1: Michael fell to his death or whatever happened.
- 20:59Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like John's call out to Taylor would
- 21:03Speaker 2: have been like almost in a way, it's like, is
- 21:05Speaker 2: she gonna regret, like, you know, there's there's someone else
- 21:12Speaker 2: dying while you're like in self defense, whereas this was
- 21:16Speaker 2: a straight up execution. Yeah, And she had absolutely no remorse.
- 21:22Speaker 1: Or even stop. And then he comes over and he's
- 21:24Speaker 1: the one to do it, as if like a you
- 21:26Speaker 1: don't need that on a conscience, you know, like you're
- 21:28Speaker 1: already gone through enough. Let me be the one to.
- 21:31Speaker 2: Or you do one hand, I'll do the other, you know,
- 21:34Speaker 2: so they.
- 21:35Speaker 1: They Yeah, because I just found that really surprising that
- 21:38Speaker 1: he would tell her not again, it's a it was
- 21:41Speaker 1: straight up murder, which is fine because him he falls
- 21:45Speaker 1: away like the Joker at the end of Batman, and
- 21:47Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, is he dead? Is he dead? Dead? There?
- 21:51Speaker 2: Was he dead? This is the final episode for Michael.
- 21:54Speaker 1: I had no I just I mean I had no doubt,
- 21:57Speaker 1: Like I'm like, do they do we see his body
- 22:00Speaker 1: sort of thing, and they go down, they find him
- 22:02Speaker 1: and they make sure because I mean, no one's surviving
- 22:05Speaker 1: that give Wraith or not. Yeah, he's dead.
- 22:07Speaker 2: He's a he's like a bug on a windscreen at
- 22:09Speaker 2: the point.
- 22:10Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so yeah, I'm glad about that. But okay,
- 22:13Speaker 1: putting the baby down, I'm like, maybe it was a
- 22:14Speaker 1: case of, like, well, if she puts the baby into
- 22:17Speaker 1: the the closet and then just hide on the other
- 22:21Speaker 1: side of the closet, hides on the other side of
- 22:23Speaker 1: the room, It's like, well, what if something does happen
- 22:25Speaker 1: to her one other the baby never gets or doesn't
- 22:28Speaker 1: get found from other four or five hours. Maybe they've
- 22:30Speaker 1: got Taylor, they threaten her, says what happens to a baby,
- 22:33Speaker 1: they leave.
- 22:33Speaker 2: The baby starts crying and makes the sound while she's away. Yeah,
- 22:36Speaker 2: and then one of the you know, one of the
- 22:38Speaker 2: hybrids gets there.
- 22:38Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's like almost, Okay, our fate's going to
- 22:41Speaker 1: be the same. I was a bit like the idea
- 22:45Speaker 1: that the other hybrid heard the baby cry stops, turns
- 22:49Speaker 1: around and comes back and then goes and just kid.
- 22:51Speaker 1: I'm like, no, it's different to hearing a bit of
- 22:55Speaker 1: a thud, right, And You're like, that could be a
- 22:57Speaker 1: cupboard door, it could be the guy who just felt
- 23:00Speaker 1: on those stairs, like it could have been anything, anything.
- 23:02Speaker 1: When you hear a baby cry and you just laugh
- 23:04Speaker 1: it off, like it's just the air conditioning.
- 23:07Speaker 2: And wouldn't the hybrids have like you know, hearing, hearing
- 23:11Speaker 2: and like that.
- 23:12Speaker 1: Don't perhaps even smell, you know whatever.
- 23:14Speaker 2: But even if they don't, it's an ethosion, so it
- 23:17Speaker 2: already smell. But then add add a diaper into that nappy.
- 23:22Speaker 1: Mate, to be honest, not really wait a second.
- 23:24Speaker 2: If if she's what what what's tailor using as a nappy?
- 23:30Speaker 2: Surely they're not, you know, surely they're not shipping in
- 23:32Speaker 2: Huggies for her. So she just used she.
- 23:35Speaker 1: Might be a pair of that prefers cloth washing them
- 23:37Speaker 1: just all the time.
- 23:38Speaker 2: Which Athosians wouldn't be using cloth nappies and then and
- 23:41Speaker 2: then washing washing them. It'd be it'd be a single
- 23:44Speaker 2: use rag loin cloth situation.
- 23:47Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know, that's interesting. Maybe that's why the
- 23:50Speaker 1: Athosian baby sleeps so well. It's like genetically speaking, it's
- 23:54Speaker 1: used to just you know, some rags. Yeah, they have
- 23:57Speaker 1: brought in some Huggies. Great people, if the want to
- 23:59Speaker 1: sponsor the show, I would love that. Targeate podcasts brought
- 24:02Speaker 1: to you by nappies.
- 24:03Speaker 2: But your kids are out of dappies. Now what are
- 24:06Speaker 2: you gonna do with? Oh, you just want the hohld
- 24:08Speaker 2: cold hard cash. You don't want them to send us.
- 24:09Speaker 1: I don't need it. I don't need products.
- 24:11Speaker 2: Yeah, you know.
- 24:11Speaker 1: Then again, like literally as we record this, I've got
- 24:13Speaker 1: a cousin of mine who's like, not so much him
- 24:16Speaker 1: as much as his wife dying for their second baby
- 24:19Speaker 1: to be born. She's been walking around, she going on
- 24:21Speaker 1: hikes for two weeks, trying to force that bad. So
- 24:24Speaker 1: I've got I've got somewhere.
- 24:25Speaker 2: For the pro Huggies do.
- 24:27Speaker 1: Oh my god, he just messaged me. That's WHOA there's
- 24:29Speaker 1: no baby, send me something on.
- 24:30Speaker 2: INSTAGRAMA Huggies do adult diapers? Or is that just depend
- 24:35Speaker 2: because we both got some oldies in our lives, both
- 24:37Speaker 2: of us would have a need for it now, No,
- 24:39Speaker 2: not us young bucks. Maybe they would be under a
- 24:42Speaker 2: different name, you know, like a little Shell company. Yeah, yeah,
- 24:45Speaker 2: I feel like no eighty year old wants to know
- 24:47Speaker 2: my Huggies.
- 24:48Speaker 1: Yeah. Anyway, this kid in the cupboard with Taylor, when
- 24:52Speaker 1: it goes to I, I would have thought in a way,
- 24:57Speaker 1: if it's maybe, even if it's not, okay, you take
- 25:00Speaker 1: in a risk I was, I would say, almost get
- 25:01Speaker 1: into the cupboard, pop it onto the boob.
- 25:04Speaker 2: Oh, just start start dreaming.
- 25:07Speaker 1: They call a dream feed, right, so you can breastfeed
- 25:09Speaker 1: while they're sleeping. That baby's going to stay quiet, right,
- 25:12Speaker 1: it's already sleeping. You start feeding it.
- 25:16Speaker 2: Getting all about that?
- 25:16Speaker 1: What But now of the men race maybe not just
- 25:21Speaker 1: had her baby in real life.
- 25:23Speaker 2: As a woman, so they're not going to listen to it.
- 25:25Speaker 2: That's true, you know what I mean.
- 25:26Speaker 1: Us men, aren't we the worst pigs?
- 25:29Speaker 2: Carlbinder and Robert C. Cooper, they're not. They're not getting
- 25:32Speaker 2: involved with their kids the way you are. They're not.
- 25:33Speaker 2: They're not. They're not finding out about breastfeeding.
- 25:36Speaker 1: The risk though, is that you do feed the baby
- 25:39Speaker 1: and then that that actually does wake it up, and
- 25:41Speaker 1: then it's it's awake and maybe it's a little bit
- 25:44Speaker 1: of gas, and then it's going to cry because it's
- 25:46Speaker 1: in pain. It can't relieve itself. So the risk of
- 25:49Speaker 1: it needing to sleep, which she even said at the
- 25:51Speaker 1: end of the Oh my god, he slept through the
- 25:52Speaker 1: whole ordeal, and I'm like, no, he didn't.
- 25:54Speaker 2: He cried in the cupboard for like, I mean, the
- 25:58Speaker 2: baby had gotten quite large since the last time we
- 26:00Speaker 2: saw it.
- 26:01Speaker 1: That that was quite a large baby.
- 26:03Speaker 2: What I really would have loved this episode came, you know,
- 26:06Speaker 2: in the proverbial you know, sixth season of Atlantis or
- 26:09Speaker 2: something like that, where the baby was a little bit
- 26:11Speaker 2: older and she had it strapped to her back like
- 26:13Speaker 2: Luke Skywalker and Yoda and that way she was going
- 26:15Speaker 2: and doing all the you know, the kick ass with
- 26:18Speaker 2: tour and strapped to her. But I think that would
- 26:20Speaker 2: have been cool. He just need to be old enough. Yeah,
- 26:25Speaker 2: she's gonna get it, Like the baby takes the punches
- 26:27Speaker 2: for her, then that's that's just a human shield at
- 26:28Speaker 2: that point.
- 26:29Speaker 1: Well, that's it. I was thinking more of a like,
- 26:31Speaker 1: you know, close contact with Michael and then the baby
- 26:34Speaker 1: like sneezes in his face.
- 26:36Speaker 2: Or it's like Ripley, Like the baby is Ripley and
- 26:40Speaker 2: Taylor is the big yellow Exo skeleton. He's just like
- 26:44Speaker 2: left punch from her. You, yes, left punch, left punch,
- 26:48Speaker 2: right right kick, right kick F.
- 26:51Speaker 1: One f one.
- 26:55Speaker 2: You reference that we played before the mission report. This
- 26:58Speaker 2: is what I thought of immediately, And I know and
- 27:00Speaker 2: I feel like you you would have you would have
- 27:02Speaker 2: felt me on this one mission report December sixteen.
- 27:06Speaker 1: N Yeah, they.
- 27:14Speaker 2: Couldn't help. But that's all I that's all I heard
- 27:15Speaker 2: with that. God's it is still one of the best.
- 27:19Speaker 2: Absolutely still one of the best. Something I really did
- 27:23Speaker 2: like with this is the the Michael Ronan fight in Yeah,
- 27:28Speaker 2: that was some really good fight choreography. I really really
- 27:31Speaker 2: enjoyed that. I was like, damn, this is like fast
- 27:33Speaker 2: and punch. It was kind of like almost like born
- 27:35Speaker 2: identity kind of style stuff. I really like that. It
- 27:38Speaker 2: felt it felt different to a lot of the other
- 27:39Speaker 2: fights that we've seen before. I think because it's one
- 27:42Speaker 2: of the few ones that Ronan has lost. Yeah, so
- 27:46Speaker 2: I guess, yeah, you had to sort of play up
- 27:47Speaker 2: the fact that, you know, this is a harder fight
- 27:49Speaker 2: for Ronan because Michael is that good. But obviously I think, yeah,
- 27:52Speaker 2: when it came to the Taylor John Michael fight, obviously
- 27:57Speaker 2: you know Michael was kicking John's ass, but that was
- 28:01Speaker 2: a two on one fight. But also I also think
- 28:03Speaker 2: because Taylor, I mean, you know, I have the high
- 28:06Speaker 2: ground now kind of situation. I think also he would
- 28:09Speaker 2: have been sort of almost shocked in a way, like
- 28:12Speaker 2: surprise a that she's there, but I think because of
- 28:17Speaker 2: the way it kind of reveals Michael's feelings for her
- 28:19Speaker 2: and that kind of stuff, he probably wouldn't have been
- 28:22Speaker 2: as ruthless as he would have been with Ronan. I mean,
- 28:25Speaker 2: towards the end, they're the whole thing that screwed up
- 28:27Speaker 2: the whole battle, Like the whole the whole fight is
- 28:29Speaker 2: because Ronan. Michael stopped to cut Ronan's head off as
- 28:34Speaker 2: as a trophy, and I was like, that is dark.
- 28:36Speaker 2: I mean, we know he's done because in that was
- 28:38Speaker 2: it the Last Man or whatever, the Alternate Future or
- 28:41Speaker 2: whatever you see, you see him he cuts the Queen's
- 28:44Speaker 2: head off and walks out there with a crowd duplication,
- 28:46Speaker 2: So he's you know, yeah, yeah, he's got a style.
- 28:51Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it certainly it helps the Michael character
- 28:53Speaker 1: that he bested Ronan in a fight. Although you know,
- 28:59Speaker 1: I did n't to feel sorry for Jason mameoa again
- 29:03Speaker 1: that doesn't have a lot to do at the start,
- 29:06Speaker 1: then gets into a fight Losers. He's unconscious for most
- 29:10Speaker 1: of the rest of the episode, and then is pointed
- 29:13Speaker 1: out that he needs to spend more time in hospital
- 29:17Speaker 1: than Woolsey does. Yeah, that's like that's it, And I'm like, oh,
- 29:21Speaker 1: like and it was a touch of it, not enough,
- 29:23Speaker 1: but just a touch. Role. I was thinking about you
- 29:25Speaker 1: with the whole Savior John thing, where like, you know,
- 29:28Speaker 1: he John after like we haven't seen Ronan for ten
- 29:30Speaker 1: or fifteen minutes, and then like John's running through the
- 29:33Speaker 1: gate room and sees Ronan on the ground and it's
- 29:35Speaker 1: just like, yeah, well, I'm gotta go because I've gotta
- 29:37Speaker 1: go save the day because he's not here. I was like, well,
- 29:39Speaker 1: of course John's going to say the day. Yeah, you know,
- 29:41Speaker 1: because I think Ronan's up there having that same fight.
- 29:44Speaker 1: Even if he was beaten again by by Michael. He
- 29:49Speaker 1: ain't telling Taylor to stop. He's definitely getting up there
- 29:52Speaker 1: and doing what you said, like let's let's stand on
- 29:54Speaker 1: one hand each. Yeah this guy, you.
- 29:56Speaker 2: Know, so let's lift him up and then drop him.
- 30:00Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 30:00Speaker 2: Absolutely, yeah. I guess the only thing you Droan really
- 30:03Speaker 2: had there was he was you know, he was the
- 30:04Speaker 2: first one to wake up from the stun bubble. He
- 30:06Speaker 2: was you know, so he had that moment. But yeah,
- 30:08Speaker 2: it's funny. There's a running joke in Archer where they
- 30:11Speaker 2: just talk about it. It's like if you're unconscious for
- 30:13Speaker 2: a long time, like that's super bad. Like the longer
- 30:16Speaker 2: you are unconscious like that, the more chance you have
- 30:18Speaker 2: of like brain damage. That super bad, super bad. So
- 30:23Speaker 2: you know, but I mean, you know, Rona don't really
- 30:24Speaker 2: use anything in this nogget anyway, so.
- 30:27Speaker 1: He hasn't had to talk all right, the way to
- 30:30Speaker 1: sort of say the day with the idea of like hey,
- 30:32Speaker 1: let's go up there, let's take the thing of the
- 30:34Speaker 1: shield down and then we'll and then we'll open it,
- 30:37Speaker 1: we'll dial the gate and it'll it'll do enough just
- 30:40Speaker 1: to even eat half of their puddle jump. Yeah, and
- 30:42Speaker 1: that just as a as a VFX was the holy
- 30:46Speaker 1: ship that looks so cool.
- 30:48Speaker 2: That was like they with early SG one when that
- 30:50Speaker 2: guy committed suicide by by puddle and it was just
- 30:54Speaker 2: his shoes left.
- 30:55Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, but this for it to like the gate
- 30:59Speaker 1: to then switch off as soon as it was like yeah,
- 31:01Speaker 1: that was just a weapon that we used, like we
- 31:03Speaker 1: used a wormhole as a weapon. It's like the event, like,
- 31:06Speaker 1: holy shit.
- 31:07Speaker 2: I did see a bit of trivia where someone reckons
- 31:09Speaker 2: in that moment where Rodney is flying the puddle jumper
- 31:13Speaker 2: up to the tower and you see an outside shot
- 31:15Speaker 2: of the tower. The trivia says, you can see some
- 31:19Speaker 2: of the damage left over from the explosion from the
- 31:21Speaker 2: Daniel Jackson episode. I couldn't tell. It was dark, and
- 31:26Speaker 2: I don't know that we've really seen the control tower
- 31:28Speaker 2: that close up before. So maybe if someone saw something
- 31:31Speaker 2: interpreted of scaffolding or some kind of but eye, it
- 31:34Speaker 2: would it seems weird that you would fix all the
- 31:36Speaker 2: inside and have that picturesquely be perfect before you would
- 31:39Speaker 2: fix the outside structure, considering it's a space ship.
- 31:43Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah go underwater at a moment's notice.
- 31:46Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, you might have to drop on So
- 31:48Speaker 2: I wasn't sure about that one. A funda a trivia though,
- 31:52Speaker 2: was that jumper when they got down to the to
- 31:56Speaker 2: the underwater bay. If you look at the jumper's windscreen,
- 32:00Speaker 2: it's all dirty and silty, you know, all that kind
- 32:02Speaker 2: of stuff that was That was real. That was basically
- 32:08Speaker 2: when they you know, pulled the puddle jumper out of
- 32:10Speaker 2: storage or whatever, one of the grips was about to
- 32:12Speaker 2: wipe down the windscreen because that was just regular studio
- 32:16Speaker 2: you know, dirt that is, and the directory no, no, no, no,
- 32:18Speaker 2: no no, no, no, no, keep that, keep that, keep that,
- 32:20Speaker 2: And I'm like, that's really really good. And then the
- 32:25Speaker 2: he was he was credited as lead hybrid, So I
- 32:29Speaker 2: think it's the one with like the moppy hair that
- 32:30Speaker 2: was in the control room with Michael. The last time
- 32:35Speaker 2: we saw him was in season six of s G one,
- 32:38Speaker 2: where he played the pivotal character of out of control
- 32:42Speaker 2: driver in Sight Unseen, which is the one where everyone
- 32:48Speaker 2: saw those Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, because that was those
- 32:52Speaker 2: weird like interdimensional bugs that that like only corn could see.
- 33:01Speaker 2: And yeah, there was like that one like sucky glowy
- 33:04Speaker 2: bug on the windscreen that was like that's it. So
- 33:09Speaker 2: you know, he's getting up in the world.
- 33:11Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I still like, you know, I know
- 33:14Speaker 1: they're all hybrids and now still trying to work it out,
- 33:16Speaker 1: but i mean they just didn't have a lot of
- 33:19Speaker 1: presents about him, any of the hybrids, and the fact
- 33:21Speaker 1: that he's the only one with a bit of flange
- 33:22Speaker 1: in his voice. I'm like, well, they just seem a
- 33:25Speaker 1: bit it seems like.
- 33:27Speaker 2: A downgrade from like the big Giant Beatles from that
- 33:29Speaker 2: one episode, Yeah, the big monster predator Beetles. What are
- 33:33Speaker 2: these guys having because like, you know, what was Taylor's
- 33:37Speaker 2: baby daddy's name?
- 33:39Speaker 1: Oh god, God, she said it enough times over the season.
- 33:45Speaker 2: Because then you she even have in this episode. She
- 33:47Speaker 2: was like, well, he's, you know, visiting our people. That's
- 33:49Speaker 2: why he's not here. I'm just gonna slide back and
- 33:53Speaker 2: just there you go. Of course, because Canaan jarris as well. Yeah,
- 33:58Speaker 2: because it spelled the same, just pronounced differently.
- 34:00Speaker 1: Of course it is. It's a cha apostrophe, and no,
- 34:04Speaker 1: I understand that's the pronunciation of it. It should have
- 34:07Speaker 1: been spelt like that.
- 34:08Speaker 2: A creepy bit of trivia though, creepy yea, yeah, yeah,
- 34:10Speaker 2: because obviously I didn't remember anything about this episode except
- 34:13Speaker 2: for Michael falling to his death. So I read the
- 34:15Speaker 2: trivia before I watched the episode, just so i'd write
- 34:17Speaker 2: down on my notes and stuff. And one of them
- 34:20Speaker 2: be trivia is final appearance of Tora and John him Mahugan.
- 34:25Speaker 2: And I'm like, do they kill Taylor's baby? Did I
- 34:27Speaker 2: block that out because the would be and dark? But no,
- 34:31Speaker 2: this is just the last time we see Taylor's baby
- 34:33Speaker 2: on screen. Ah yeah, that pivotal character.
- 34:36Speaker 1: I love that you said they're not shipping in Huggies
- 34:39Speaker 1: for Taylor and their baby. Well they sure have shit
- 34:41Speaker 1: found room for remote control car and that was big too,
- 34:47Speaker 1: like the size of your palm.
- 34:48Speaker 2: You see the geting shot and you're like the little
- 34:50Speaker 2: and then they pick them up and they're like they're massive.
- 34:52Speaker 1: Yeah, fine, they're down, like you know, just chilling out
- 34:56Speaker 1: doing all that. And then Taylor's there or what do
- 34:58Speaker 1: you do? I go for a walk. It's the only
- 34:59Speaker 1: thing that can't him down. And then when they leave
- 35:02Speaker 1: that place, because the powers off sounded very ominous, Well.
- 35:06Speaker 2: We must leave this plats leave this.
- 35:08Speaker 1: Place now, and they look towards the good. They are
- 35:11Speaker 1: so far away from the rest of the city. I
- 35:16Speaker 1: would have rather Okay, Rodney's not going to do it.
- 35:18Speaker 1: But when we've seen characters like go somewhere for a beer,
- 35:22Speaker 1: you're probably walking that far. Hey, let's just go and
- 35:25Speaker 1: have a boy's not out. Take a couple of beers
- 35:26Speaker 1: down near the dock, or race some cars.
- 35:28Speaker 2: It'll be fine. Okay, you can take a transport. You
- 35:32Speaker 2: can take a transport to get your three quarters the
- 35:33Speaker 2: way there. Yeah, that's true, and then you can only walk,
- 35:35Speaker 2: but up power goes out.
- 35:36Speaker 1: But I'm just thinking.
- 35:39Speaker 2: Why is Taylor walking that far to get her baby
- 35:42Speaker 2: to sleep? And to be fair, she should have heard
- 35:45Speaker 2: those were my control cars walking down that corriage. I'm
- 35:48Speaker 2: I'm not trying to victim Blaine, no, but if you're
- 35:50Speaker 2: trying to keep a baby asleep, you are hyper aware
- 35:52Speaker 2: of any noise going around.
- 35:54Speaker 1: Mate. I became a ninja, especially with my second boy,
- 36:00Speaker 1: like he was. He was so aware to any noise.
- 36:03Speaker 1: I lost hours of my life every single night putting
- 36:07Speaker 1: a kid to sleep because he had to be in
- 36:10Speaker 1: like a deep sleep for like forty minutes before I
- 36:13Speaker 1: could make any noise in the house. And me, you
- 36:15Speaker 1: know me, if I stop moving, I fall asleep. Oh yeah,
- 36:17Speaker 1: you're a sho And so I would put him down
- 36:18Speaker 1: stay with him because any movement, any noise, and he
- 36:21Speaker 1: would wake up. So I'll just sit there next to him,
- 36:24Speaker 1: and then I would wake up three and a half
- 36:25Speaker 1: hours later every time. And I'm like, look at all
- 36:28Speaker 1: the things I could have been doing with Yeah.
- 36:29Speaker 2: See, there's a part of me where I go if
- 36:31Speaker 2: I ever wanted to be a parent, It's like, do
- 36:34Speaker 2: I just want to adopt a five year old so
- 36:35Speaker 2: that I don't have to worry about any of that sort.
- 36:37Speaker 1: He is one we prepared.
- 36:38Speaker 2: Yeah, but then also it's like, nah, because there's a
- 36:41Speaker 2: lot of pre program that's already been done in that
- 36:43Speaker 2: five year old that I've got to try and undo.
- 36:45Speaker 2: So I'm like, ah, but then I also don't Yeah,
- 36:47Speaker 2: I don't want to do any of that or any
- 36:48Speaker 2: of that newborn shit, yeah, tour.
- 36:50Speaker 1: Training or anything like. Yeah, it's kind of like they've
- 36:52Speaker 1: got a vague awareness.
- 36:53Speaker 2: Of That was when I started to like yourkis and
- 36:56Speaker 2: you know what i mean, up until the point there
- 36:57Speaker 2: were five, I'm like, I don't even want to know
- 36:58Speaker 2: about you. Yeah, whereas you know, the older they get,
- 37:00Speaker 2: I'm like, the more time I want to spend with them.
- 37:02Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, Yeah, they're like people.
- 37:05Speaker 2: Yeah, they're yeah, they're actually they're actually.
- 37:07Speaker 1: Having they're humans that I half made.
- 37:10Speaker 2: Okay, Well, my little grand nephew for the first year
- 37:13Speaker 2: of his life, I just called him a baked potato.
- 37:15Speaker 2: He's like I was just like, fine, wrap it in
- 37:17Speaker 2: foil whatever. And and now he's like two and a half,
- 37:20Speaker 2: he'll be three in February, and he's so much fun.
- 37:24Speaker 2: He's so much fun at the moment he's you know,
- 37:26Speaker 2: but I have him for an hour and then I
- 37:28Speaker 2: hang him back.
- 37:28Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, thank you.
- 37:30Speaker 2: He was so cute. I saw him the other day
- 37:32Speaker 2: and we're all sitting around the table, like having a
- 37:34Speaker 2: drink and stuff like that. Just it was morning tea,
- 37:36Speaker 2: not a not a drink drink, I'm judging, and he
- 37:39Speaker 2: was bored. So he had a couple of his little
- 37:41Speaker 2: toy story matchbox cars and stuff like that, and he
- 37:44Speaker 2: comes over and he goes, come with me, Come with me.
- 37:46Speaker 2: I'm like what, and then he grabs my hand. He
- 37:48Speaker 2: just grabs my whole thumb and then just drags me
- 37:51Speaker 2: away by the thumb so that I can play cars
- 37:53Speaker 2: with him. I'm like, this is the most adorable. Free's
- 37:56Speaker 2: so cool.
- 37:56Speaker 1: Yeah, I love it.
- 37:58Speaker 2: The speaking of cool, the kickboxing, the banks, the banks lady.
- 38:04Speaker 2: Oh yes, yes, yes, yes, that was all her, all her,
- 38:08Speaker 2: no stunt double, that's all stuff that she did. This
- 38:11Speaker 2: is the character that I thought was from the start episode. Yeah,
- 38:14Speaker 2: yeah yeah. And I don't know if you picked up
- 38:16Speaker 2: on it a little bit here, but this is what
- 38:18Speaker 2: the writer Carl Bonder had to say about it. So
- 38:22Speaker 2: here's Sharon the big fight here.
- 38:23Speaker 1: Yeah, she did it all. No doubling.
- 38:26Speaker 3: Yeah, Dyna mate, and of course Ronnan is suitably impressed,
- 38:34Speaker 3: so we should be.
- 38:36Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 38:37Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a scene where I said, hmm, we
- 38:40Speaker 3: need to get these two together. Oh yeah, if there
- 38:43Speaker 3: was a season six that would have happened.
- 38:46Speaker 1: Yeah that makes sense, Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah.
- 38:49Speaker 2: Absolutely.
- 38:50Speaker 1: You don't want to make it like, you know, surface
- 38:52Speaker 1: level going. Well, they both kick ass people, they both
- 38:54Speaker 1: look like they don't say a lot. Obviously they're perfect fit.
- 38:57Speaker 1: They could be like too good of a perfect fit,
- 38:59Speaker 1: but right, I would have been happy for them to
- 39:01Speaker 1: explore that, you know, maybe make Keller a little bit
- 39:04Speaker 1: jealous because she's this cutesy, mousey little you know, science girl,
- 39:07Speaker 1: health girl, nurse girl, doctor girl, and she's like, wow,
- 39:10Speaker 1: you got this woman over here, can kick someone over
- 39:12Speaker 1: there in the face.
- 39:13Speaker 2: What you call Sarah?
- 39:14Speaker 1: Hey a girl?
- 39:15Speaker 2: Hey her health girl? Bring that candy stripper over. I
- 39:19Speaker 2: don't know't know what you guys do.
- 39:21Speaker 1: It said, this is the episode she's actually gonna listen to,
- 39:24Speaker 1: if we haven't lost it by now.
- 39:25Speaker 2: Oh my god, Taylor, though, I've got a little screenshot. Therefore,
- 39:31Speaker 2: you don't open up. Just because when I was cutting audio,
- 39:33Speaker 2: I just had to pause it, and.
- 39:36Speaker 1: She first finds them racing cars for the second time first.
- 39:39Speaker 2: Time, and I just poor Taylor, poor Rachel Luttrell. I
- 39:43Speaker 2: just paused it unintentionally at a very unfortunate moment where
- 39:48Speaker 2: that look on her face just looks like a cross
- 39:51Speaker 2: between just like smug but a shit eating green. It's
- 39:53Speaker 2: it's not a flattering thing. And I love doing that
- 39:56Speaker 2: every now and then, Like if you know, if I'm
- 39:58Speaker 2: watching something on Netflix and someone calls me and I pause,
- 40:01Speaker 2: it's always funny just to see what kind of faces yeah,
- 40:03Speaker 2: people make, So yeah, we'll chuck that up on socials
- 40:06Speaker 2: or something like that. Yeah. I was like, ah, that's unfortunate.
- 40:11Speaker 2: And the other Rachel thing too is And this could
- 40:14Speaker 2: just be a nitpick. But when she was hiding in
- 40:16Speaker 2: the cupboard on the wall, how did she reply to
- 40:21Speaker 2: Michael's calm, like when Michael got over the loud?
- 40:24Speaker 1: Yeah, I found that weird.
- 40:25Speaker 2: Is it just because earlier in the episode she like
- 40:27Speaker 2: got her little ear piece back when when she was
- 40:29Speaker 2: in I was about to say Weir's office, but it's
- 40:31Speaker 2: Woolsey's office now poured out, But yeah, so I'm assuming
- 40:36Speaker 2: she still had that her in ear, but because it
- 40:38Speaker 2: was so dark, you couldn't see. So I just think
- 40:41Speaker 2: maybe from a directing point of view or something like that,
- 40:43Speaker 2: they maybe miss There should have been a moment where
- 40:45Speaker 2: you saw her tapper ear or they littered a little
- 40:48Speaker 2: bit differently so you could see the little microphone coming
- 40:50Speaker 2: down the side of her mouth or something like that.
- 40:51Speaker 1: Such a small micael like it doesn't come down that far.
- 40:54Speaker 1: I still worry about that.
- 40:55Speaker 2: I remember when the show first aired, there were a
- 40:57Speaker 2: couple of episodes where I actually thought those were hot
- 41:00Speaker 2: mics and they were actually using audio from the actors,
- 41:04Speaker 2: because there was a couple of moments where just it
- 41:07Speaker 2: sounded like their voice was too close to a microphone,
- 41:10Speaker 2: And I'm like, have they had to use that because
- 41:12Speaker 2: of some kind of audio issue or something like that.
- 41:14Speaker 1: But I wonder whether that's I'm sure that's been done
- 41:16Speaker 1: at some point, like as a great backup.
- 41:18Speaker 2: I mean, they did it in Sea Patrol.
- 41:21Speaker 1: Did a lot of things. I'm sure.
- 41:24Speaker 2: I love how you did the the just the exasperated,
- 41:27Speaker 2: just just like Woolsey did when he got the mission report.
- 41:30Speaker 1: From I liked with those pieces right at the start
- 41:34Speaker 1: where the power went out and Rodney clicks the clicks
- 41:38Speaker 1: the ear piece like you were wanting Tailed to do.
- 41:40Speaker 1: How loud that is? And are we are we kind
- 41:43Speaker 1: of as an audience hearing what Rodney's hearing because it's
- 41:45Speaker 1: such a loud click. Surely that's not emitting from that
- 41:49Speaker 1: piece of equipment.
- 41:50Speaker 2: May be deaf well. Yeah, Also in a tactical scenario,
- 41:55Speaker 2: that's that's giving that's giving away your position.
- 41:57Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Taylor was hiding in the cabin. Put
- 42:02Speaker 1: it on silent mode for christ. Yeah.
- 42:04Speaker 2: The only worst bit of technology than that was apparently
- 42:07Speaker 2: the laptops on Atlantis are rigged with the explosives. Did
- 42:10Speaker 2: you see that moment when bikel like threw the laptop
- 42:12Speaker 2: and it just kind of exploded, And I'm like, what
- 42:15Speaker 2: is this a Samsung tablet? Like? What do we eat?
- 42:17Speaker 1: Wow? I thought you were just going to go straight
- 42:18Speaker 1: to Apple.
- 42:19Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I'll see that. I Hey, I'm aware. I'm
- 42:21Speaker 2: aware that Samsung has a you know, a Tensity.
- 42:26Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 42:26Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a whole there's a whole range of Samsung
- 42:29Speaker 2: tablets that like overheating and burning.
- 42:31Speaker 1: Wouldn't happen in Apple, would it? What?
- 42:32Speaker 2: I will should know? They do they sell your socks
- 42:35Speaker 2: for eighty bucks. There's this new thing that's been brought
- 42:38Speaker 2: out and it's like it's an it's an iPhone holder. Right.
- 42:42Speaker 2: Imagine a sock, like a long orange sock, where like
- 42:45Speaker 2: the tube part of the top has been split in
- 42:47Speaker 2: the middle into two like handles and then you drop
- 42:50Speaker 2: your phone in it. Right, that's what that's Apple's latest product.
- 42:55Speaker 2: It's a it's a pocket for when you don't have
- 42:59Speaker 2: a pocket. How it's being marketed, it's inspired by pockets.
- 43:06Speaker 1: Yeah, please do. It's giving energy about when they brought
- 43:08Speaker 1: out the AirPods.
- 43:11Speaker 2: All right, have you seen the new iPod that is
- 43:14Speaker 2: just it's it's ear pods and the case is an
- 43:18Speaker 2: iPod so you can now listen. You can while your
- 43:22Speaker 2: your EarPods are charging in their box. It's got an
- 43:24Speaker 2: iPod screen on the outside so you can play music.
- 43:27Speaker 1: Brilliant You like it? No, because we.
- 43:29Speaker 2: Just come full circle. We're back to iPods. But they
- 43:33Speaker 2: have wireless friggin EarPods in them.
- 43:36Speaker 1: Now iPods. You couldn't. They didn't have speakers on them.
- 43:38Speaker 1: What do you mean they did?
- 43:39Speaker 2: You could plug it a little speaker, you could plug
- 43:40Speaker 2: it in.
- 43:41Speaker 1: But they weren't a speaker. Is that what you're saying
- 43:42Speaker 1: that when you plug, you plug the ear pods into
- 43:46Speaker 1: the iPod to charge them.
- 43:48Speaker 2: Yeah, it has us. It looks like it. I imagine
- 43:50Speaker 2: you've got a little iPod and it opens up and
- 43:53Speaker 2: it stores your EarPods inside it.
- 43:55Speaker 1: Yeah, and so where does the where does the music
- 43:56Speaker 1: come from then when you listen to it?
- 43:57Speaker 2: I don't know.
- 43:58Speaker 1: I didn't look hard at it is. It's its own
- 44:01Speaker 1: speaker at the same time.
- 44:02Speaker 2: But what I'm saying is people get EarPods for your
- 44:05Speaker 2: phone and then have to put them in a little case
- 44:08Speaker 2: that is now an iPod. Why didn't we just keep iPods?
- 44:11Speaker 2: I still have an iPod. I love it.
- 44:14Speaker 1: I'm not saying as much of a problem, but maybe
- 44:16Speaker 1: I don't understand. I'll have to please Yeah, because my
- 44:19Speaker 1: issue that was they invented hey, not non invented, but say, hey,
- 44:22Speaker 1: here's some here's some cordless, some wireless earphones.
- 44:27Speaker 2: I've never owned them because I would lose them.
- 44:29Speaker 1: Oh my god, No, I don't trust myself. Never, never
- 44:31Speaker 1: would buy them in a million years. But then they
- 44:33Speaker 1: came out with the cord that you could buy to
- 44:37Speaker 1: wrap around your neck. That was some bullshit to house
- 44:40Speaker 1: them in. It's like, hey, here's this so you don't
- 44:42Speaker 1: lose your EarPods.
- 44:44Speaker 2: It's like a glasses chain. Glasses are designed to sit
- 44:46Speaker 2: on your face and hang over your ears. When you
- 44:48Speaker 2: get a chain so they can hang around your neck.
- 44:49Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, And and people are like, oh my god, yeah,
- 44:53Speaker 1: i don't want to lose my EarPods. I'd love that.
- 44:54Speaker 1: I'm like, we already had it with those with the
- 44:58Speaker 1: wired What what are we doing?
- 45:01Speaker 2: Don't even go here?
- 45:02Speaker 1: Oh god, let's get out of here. You find that
- 45:04Speaker 1: that's episode three hundred and four.
- 45:08Speaker 2: How excited you for next week? What have you got?
- 45:10Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not anywhere near as excited as what
- 45:12Speaker 1: you are.
- 45:13Speaker 2: You're mister three or five.
- 45:14Speaker 1: You you were the want to bring it up. I
- 45:16Speaker 1: wouldn't have remembered that.
- 45:17Speaker 2: It's because I'm just a little parrot of memes in
- 45:19Speaker 2: pop culture references. I don't have any original thought.
- 45:22Speaker 1: I wouldn't have brought it up without you. I'm saying
- 45:24Speaker 1: this is a team effort, and now now I feel
- 45:26Speaker 1: the pressure to play some pitball next week.
- 45:29Speaker 2: Well I mean clearly, but pressure.
- 45:31Speaker 1: But having said that, it'll kick us off Spotify the
- 45:33Speaker 1: episode I won't like it on Spotify. Yeah, so maybe
- 45:37Speaker 1: we can play like one second of it. Okay, Yeah,
- 45:40Speaker 1: let's do that.
- 45:41Speaker 2: All right, mister three or five in one second?
- 45:44Speaker 1: Yeah, something like that. Uh yeah, we'll be back. What
- 45:46Speaker 1: are we talking next week? Remnant, Remnants, cool ree or
- 45:49Speaker 1: fat that is? That's episode three. Get into the game,
- 45:58Speaker 1: get into eight Starry Gate, and send me some maass.
- 46:03Speaker 2: Bring