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Unlocking the Mind: Hypnosis and Spiritual Growth with Mela Borawski · The All About Nothing: Podcast

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I
2:57
want
2:57
to
2:57
give
2:57
a
2:57
big
2:57
thanks
2:58
to
2:58
Luke
2:59
Basso,
3:00
who
3:00
joined
3:00
me
3:01
for
3:02
last
3:02
week's
3:02
episode.
3:03
Actually,
3:03
I
3:03
don't
3:03
think
3:03
that's
3:04
true.
3:04
Luke
3:04
Basso
3:05
was
3:05
a
3:05
few
3:05
days
3:05
ago
3:06
or
3:06
a
3:06
couple
3:07
episodes
3:07
ago.
3:08
Bill
3:09
Fry
3:09
was
3:10
here
3:10
with
3:10
me
3:10
last
3:11
week.
3:11
I'm
3:12
trying.
3:12
Look,
3:12
we
3:13
record
3:13
these
3:13
episodes
3:14
almost
3:14
two
3:14
weeks
3:15
ahead
3:15
of
3:15
time
3:15
and
3:15
I'm
3:16
trying
3:16
in
3:16
my
3:16
head
3:17
to
3:17
remember
3:17
what
3:18
the
3:18
last
3:18
episode
3:18
was.
3:19
And
3:19
I'm
3:19
pretty
3:19
sure
3:19
that
3:20
249
3:21
was
3:21
a
3:22
breakdown
3:23
of
3:24
something
3:25
Trump
3:25
did.
3:26
Stupid.
3:27
And
3:27
I
3:28
feel
3:28
like
3:29
that's
3:29
about
3:29
as
3:30
that's
3:30
about
3:30
as
3:31
safe
3:31
a
3:31
description
3:31
of
3:31
that
3:32
last
3:32
episode
3:32
as
3:33
I
3:33
can
3:33
give.
3:34
But
3:34
Bill
3:35
Fry
3:35
will
3:35
be
3:36
back
3:36
with
3:36
me
3:36
for
3:36
the
3:37
next
3:37
episode
3:38
because
3:39
Zach
3:39
is
3:39
still
3:39
on
3:40
paternity
3:40
leave.
3:40
Although
3:41
I
3:41
think
3:41
I
3:41
did
3:41
mention
3:42
in
3:42
the
3:42
episode
3:43
with
3:43
Luke
3:43
because
3:43
I
3:44
did
3:44
listen
3:44
to
3:44
it.
3:44
And
3:45
I
3:45
confess
3:45
I
3:45
almost
3:46
never
3:46
listen
3:47
to
3:47
my
3:47
own
3:47
episodes.
3:49
But
3:49
I
3:49
will
3:50
confess
3:50
that
3:51
I
3:51
did
3:52
acknowledge
3:53
that
3:53
Zach
3:53
did
3:54
have
3:54
Zach's
3:55
wife
3:55
did
3:55
have
3:56
twins.
3:57
They
3:57
had
3:57
a
3:57
boy
3:57
and
3:58
a
3:58
girl.
3:58
They
3:59
were
3:59
£6
4:00
something
4:01
and
4:01
maybe
4:01
just
4:02
under
4:02
£6
4:03
was
4:04
Ellie,
4:04
am
4:05
I
4:05
right?
4:05
Oh,
4:05
that.
4:06
I
4:06
don't
4:06
know.
4:06
Okay,
4:07
I
4:07
apparently
4:08
was
4:08
blessed
4:08
with
4:09
these
4:09
details
4:09
somehow
4:10
and
4:10
I
4:10
now
4:10
I'M
4:10
thinking
4:11
about
4:11
it.
4:11
I
4:11
don't
4:11
know
4:11
where
4:12
I
4:12
got
4:12
those
4:12
details.
4:12
So
4:13
making
4:13
them
4:13
up.
4:13
Is
4:14
that
4:14
the
4:14
birth
4:14
weight
4:14
of
4:14
your
4:14
twins?
4:15
My.
4:15
The
4:16
birth
4:16
weight
4:16
of.
4:16
They
4:16
were
4:17
six.
4:17
They
4:17
were
4:17
both
4:18
six,
4:18
nine,
4:19
six,
4:19
six
4:20
pounds.
4:20
Nine
4:20
ounces.
4:21
Lot.
4:22
Lot.
4:22
A
4:22
lot
4:22
of
4:23
baby.
4:24
If,
4:24
if
4:25
you're
4:25
having
4:25
to
4:25
carry
4:26
13
4:27
and
4:27
a
4:27
half
4:27
pounds,
4:28
that's,
4:29
that's
4:29
a
4:29
chunky
4:30
baby.
4:31
And
4:32
for
4:32
anyone
4:32
out
4:32
there
4:33
that
4:33
was
4:33
more
4:33
than
4:33
13
4:33
pounds,
4:34
I
4:34
apologize.
4:35
That
4:35
was,
4:35
that
4:35
was
4:35
completely
4:36
insensitive
4:36
of
4:36
me,
4:37
baby.
4:40
But
4:40
thanks
4:40
to
4:41
Luke
4:41
Basso
4:41
for
4:41
being
4:41
on
4:42
the
4:42
episode
4:42
because
4:42
I
4:43
don't
4:43
think
4:43
I
4:43
thanked
4:43
him
4:43
in
4:44
the
4:44
episode
4:44
that
4:44
I
4:44
did
4:44
with
4:45
Bill
4:45
last
4:45
week.
4:45
But
4:46
like
4:46
I
4:46
said,
4:46
Bill
4:47
Frey
4:47
will
4:47
be
4:47
back
4:47
with
4:48
me
4:48
for
4:48
the
4:49
next
4:49
episode.
4:49
Thank
4:49
you,
4:50
Amy,
4:50
for
4:50
sitting
4:50
in.
4:51
I
4:51
appreciate
4:51
it.
4:52
So
4:53
we
4:53
have
4:54
a
4:54
very
4:54
fascinating
4:55
guest
4:55
joining
4:55
us
4:56
whose
4:56
work
4:57
spans
4:57
personal
4:58
transformation,
4:58
spirituality
5:00
and
5:00
community
5:00
building.
5:01
I
5:01
want
5:02
to
5:02
welcome
5:02
to
5:02
the
5:02
show
5:03
Reverend
5:03
Pamela
5:04
Mella
5:05
Barowski.
5:06
I
5:06
want
5:06
to
5:06
make
5:06
sure
5:06
I
5:07
get
5:07
your
5:07
last
5:07
name
5:07
right
5:07
too,
5:08
because
5:08
I
5:08
just
5:08
realized
5:09
in
5:09
the
5:09
pre
5:09
interview,
5:10
I
5:10
didn't
5:10
ask
5:11
you
5:11
how
5:11
to
5:11
pronounce
5:12
your
5:12
last
5:12
name,
5:13
but
5:13
Barowski
5:14
is
5:14
correct,
5:14
right?
5:15
Borowski.
5:15
Yes,
5:16
Borowski.
5:17
She
5:17
is
5:17
a
5:18
certified
5:18
hypnotist
5:19
and
5:19
ordained
5:19
pagan
5:20
minister
5:20
and
5:21
the
5:21
founder
5:21
of
5:21
3
5:22
Rays
5:22
of
5:22
Light
5:22
LLC.
5:23
Through
5:23
her
5:24
work,
5:24
she
5:24
helps
5:24
people
5:25
explore
5:25
the
5:25
power
5:25
of
5:26
the
5:26
mind,
5:26
embracing
5:27
personal
5:27
sovereignty
5:28
and
5:28
connect
5:29
with
5:29
their
5:29
spiritual
5:30
paths
5:30
in
5:30
meaningful
5:31
way.
5:31
But
5:32
that's
5:32
just
5:32
the
5:32
beginning.
5:34
Mela
5:34
is
5:34
also
5:35
a
5:35
health
5:35
keeper.
5:36
I'm
5:36
sorry,
5:36
a
5:37
hearth
5:37
keeper
5:38
for
5:39
Eowyn
5:39
Grove
5:40
Pagan
5:40
Fellowship,
5:41
the
5:41
president
5:41
of
5:41
Green
5:42
Wild
5:42
Spiritual
5:43
Fellowship
5:43
and
5:43
the
5:44
co
5:44
founder
5:44
of
5:44
Green
5:45
Wild
5:45
Mystical
5:46
Academy
5:46
where
5:47
she
5:47
teaches
5:47
courses
5:48
on
5:48
spiritual
5:48
growth.
5:49
If
5:49
that
5:50
wasn't
5:50
enough,
5:51
she
5:51
is
5:51
the
5:51
host
5:51
of
5:52
the
5:52
podcast
5:52
Bell
5:53
Book
5:53
and
5:54
Candle
5:54
where
5:55
she
5:55
dives
5:55
into
5:55
anything
5:56
and
5:56
everything,
5:57
mystical
5:57
practices
5:58
to
5:58
personal
5:59
empowerment.
6:00
So
6:00
we
6:00
have
6:00
a
6:00
lot
6:01
to
6:01
talk
6:01
about.
6:02
We're
6:03
going
6:03
to
6:03
talk
6:03
about
6:04
your
6:04
journey,
6:05
your
6:05
work
6:05
and
6:06
lessons
6:06
and
6:07
also
6:08
what
6:08
you've
6:08
learned
6:08
along
6:09
the
6:09
way.
6:09
So,
6:09
Mela,
6:10
welcome
6:10
to
6:10
the
6:10
show.
6:10
Thank
6:10
you
6:11
for
6:11
being
6:11
here
6:11
with
6:11
us.
6:12
Thank
6:12
you
6:12
for
6:12
inviting
6:13
me.
6:13
Yeah,
6:14
I
6:14
was
6:15
excited
6:15
because
6:17
I
6:17
think
6:18
we
6:18
were
6:18
at
6:19
Christmas
6:19
dinner
6:20
or
6:21
we
6:21
were
6:21
at
6:21
some
6:22
event
6:23
and
6:24
my
6:25
wife's
6:26
sister's
6:27
niece
6:28
is
6:29
a
6:29
mutual
6:29
friend
6:29
of
6:30
ours.
6:30
And
6:31
I
6:31
just
6:31
happened
6:32
to
6:32
say
6:32
something
6:32
about
6:33
how
6:33
I
6:33
would
6:34
really
6:34
like
6:34
to
6:35
meet
6:35
a
6:36
hypnotist
6:36
that
6:36
I
6:36
could
6:37
potentially
6:38
have
6:38
on
6:38
the
6:38
podcast.
6:39
And
6:40
in
6:40
that
6:40
conversation
6:42
our
6:42
mutual
6:44
acquaintance
6:44
that
6:44
we
6:45
have
6:45
said
6:46
I
6:46
know
6:46
somebody
6:47
and
6:48
threw
6:48
out
6:48
your
6:48
name.
6:50
And
6:50
so
6:51
I,
6:52
at
6:52
first
6:53
I
6:53
wasn't
6:53
sure
6:53
because
6:54
I
6:54
was
6:55
the
6:55
idea
6:56
of
6:56
being
6:57
hypnotized
6:58
and
6:59
not
6:59
Having
7:00
that
7:00
control
7:01
that
7:02
could
7:02
potentially
7:03
be
7:03
taken
7:03
away
7:03
by
7:03
somebody
7:04
that
7:04
might.
7:04
Would
7:05
take
7:05
advantage
7:05
of
7:05
it
7:07
was
7:08
a
7:08
little
7:08
bit
7:08
concerning.
7:09
But
7:09
also,
7:10
as
7:10
I
7:10
expressed
7:10
before
7:11
we
7:11
started
7:11
recording,
7:12
it's
7:12
not
7:12
something
7:13
that
7:13
I
7:13
want
7:13
to
7:13
exploit.
7:14
I
7:15
don't
7:15
want
7:15
to
7:15
have
7:15
somebody
7:16
on
7:16
that
7:16
has
7:17
a
7:17
skill
7:18
like
7:19
this
7:19
that
7:19
uses
7:20
it
7:20
as
7:20
part
7:21
of
7:21
what
7:22
you
7:22
do
7:23
in.
7:23
In
7:23
helping
7:24
people
7:24
with.
7:24
With
7:25
their
7:25
spiritual
7:25
healing
7:26
and
7:26
therapy
7:26
and
7:27
things
7:27
like
7:27
that.
7:27
I
7:28
didn't
7:28
want
7:28
to
7:28
take
7:28
it
7:28
and
7:29
be
7:29
like,
7:29
hey,
7:30
turn
7:30
me
7:30
into
7:30
a
7:30
chicken.
7:32
Yeah.
7:33
So.
7:34
So
7:34
first
7:35
of
7:35
all,
7:35
I
7:35
guess
7:36
before
7:36
we
7:36
get
7:37
anything,
7:37
can
7:37
you
7:37
get
7:38
into
7:38
everything?
7:39
Can
7:39
you
7:39
tell
7:39
us
7:39
a
7:39
little
7:40
bit
7:40
about
7:40
yourself?
7:40
What's
7:41
your
7:41
background?
7:41
What
7:41
is
7:41
it
7:41
that.
7:42
How,
7:42
how,
7:43
how.
7:43
How
7:43
are
7:44
we
7:44
here?
7:45
Wow,
7:46
that's
7:46
quite
7:47
a
7:47
story.
7:47
So
7:48
I'll
7:48
put
7:48
it
7:48
as
7:49
tiny
7:49
as
7:49
I
7:49
can.
7:50
I
7:50
actually
7:51
grew
7:51
up
7:51
in
7:52
an
7:52
evangelical
7:53
fundamentalist
7:55
cult
7:55
church
7:57
here
7:57
in
7:57
South
7:57
Carolina
7:58
that
7:59
was
7:59
very
7:59
controlling,
8:00
very
8:00
abusive.
8:01
And
8:02
there
8:03
was
8:03
also
8:03
a
8:03
lot
8:03
of
8:04
things
8:04
going
8:04
on
8:04
at
8:05
my
8:05
house
8:05
that
8:06
turned
8:06
me
8:06
into
8:07
this
8:07
person
8:07
that
8:08
was
8:08
seeking
8:09
healing
8:10
for
8:10
myself.
8:11
I
8:11
was
8:11
depressed,
8:13
I've
8:13
been
8:13
in
8:13
the
8:13
mental
8:14
hospital.
8:15
I
8:16
was
8:16
suicidal,
8:17
I
8:18
harmed
8:18
myself.
8:19
All
8:19
these
8:19
different
8:20
things
8:20
that
8:21
I
8:21
didn't
8:21
want
8:21
to
8:22
live
8:22
anymore.
8:23
And
8:23
that's
8:23
really
8:23
integral
8:24
to
8:24
my
8:24
story
8:25
because
8:25
it's
8:25
why
8:26
in
8:26
my
8:26
40s,
8:27
when
8:27
I
8:28
finally
8:28
got
8:28
to
8:28
the
8:29
point
8:29
where
8:30
I
8:30
felt
8:30
healed
8:31
enough
8:31
that
8:31
I
8:31
wanted
8:32
to
8:32
help
8:32
other
8:32
people,
8:33
so
8:34
maybe
8:34
they
8:34
were
8:35
healed,
8:35
healed
8:36
sooner
8:36
than
8:36
I
8:36
was.
8:38
It
8:39
allowed
8:39
me
8:39
to
8:39
go
8:40
back
8:40
to
8:40
school
8:40
and
8:41
to
8:41
learn
8:41
all
8:42
these
8:42
different
8:42
techniques
8:43
and
8:44
hypnosis
8:45
and
8:46
coaching
8:46
and
8:47
guiding
8:47
people
8:48
and
8:48
get
8:48
ordained
8:49
all
8:49
through
8:49
the
8:49
school
8:50
that
8:50
I
8:50
went
8:50
to.
8:51
And
8:52
it
8:52
wouldn't
8:52
have
8:52
happened
8:53
if
8:53
I
8:53
hadn't
8:53
have
8:53
been
8:53
on
8:54
my
8:54
own
8:55
kind
8:55
of
8:55
hero's
8:56
journey
8:56
and
8:57
in
8:58
the
8:58
dark
8:58
night
8:58
of
8:58
the
8:58
soul
8:59
in
8:59
such
9:00
a
9:00
deep
9:00
way
9:00
that
9:00
I
9:01
didn't
9:01
even
9:01
want
9:01
to
9:02
in
9:02
this
9:02
world
9:03
anymore.
9:03
So
9:04
kind
9:04
of
9:04
in
9:05
a
9:05
nutshell,
9:06
that's
9:07
where
9:08
I
9:08
am,
9:08
where
9:09
I
9:09
am
9:09
now.
9:14
That
9:14
is
9:15
a
9:15
lot
9:15
to
9:15
unpack.
9:18
First
9:19
of
9:19
all,
9:20
we
9:20
see
9:21
a
9:21
lot
9:22
over
9:23
the
9:23
course.
9:23
Even
9:24
recently,
9:25
there
9:25
are
9:25
so
9:25
many.
9:26
I
9:26
mean,
9:26
we
9:26
have
9:27
specials
9:27
on
9:27
Netflix
9:28
and
9:28
Hulu
9:28
of
9:28
people
9:29
that
9:29
escaped
9:30
from
9:30
these
9:30
fundamentalist
9:32
evangelical
9:34
churches
9:35
and
9:36
things
9:36
like
9:36
that.
9:37
Is
9:38
not
9:39
to
9:39
get
9:39
too
9:39
deep
9:40
into
9:40
it,
9:40
but
9:41
is
9:41
it
9:42
sort
9:42
of
9:42
a
9:42
similar.
9:44
Is
9:45
it
9:45
something
9:45
that
9:45
we
9:45
could
9:45
potentially
9:46
see
9:46
on
9:47
Dateline,
9:48
msnbc
9:48
or
9:49
something
9:49
like
9:49
that?
9:50
Yeah,
9:51
definitely.
9:53
It
9:54
had
9:54
everything
9:55
that
9:55
you
9:55
could
9:56
want
9:56
in
9:56
a
9:57
cult,
9:57
including
9:58
sexual
9:58
abuse
9:59
and
9:59
everything
9:59
from
10:00
leadership.
10:01
Yeah,
10:02
it
10:02
was
10:03
a
10:03
very
10:03
controlling
10:04
type
10:04
of
10:05
place
10:06
where
10:06
women
10:06
were
10:07
subservient
10:08
and
10:08
less
10:08
than
10:09
and
10:10
just
10:11
taught
10:12
to
10:13
serve
10:13
other
10:13
people.
10:14
It
10:14
was
10:14
associated
10:14
at
10:15
one
10:15
Point
10:15
with
10:15
Bob
10:16
Jones
10:16
University.
10:17
I
10:17
don't
10:17
know
10:18
if
10:18
I
10:19
should
10:19
even
10:19
be
10:19
saying
10:19
that.
10:20
Is
10:20
that
10:20
okay
10:20
to
10:20
say?
10:21
But
10:22
Bob
10:22
Jones
10:23
hasn't
10:23
paid
10:23
for
10:23
their
10:23
advertising
10:24
in
10:24
years,
10:25
so
10:25
you're
10:26
good.
10:27
Yeah.
10:28
So
10:28
they
10:28
were
10:28
associated
10:29
with
10:29
them,
10:30
and,
10:30
you
10:30
know,
10:30
they
10:31
made
10:31
the
10:31
women
10:32
wear
10:33
long
10:33
jean
10:34
skirts
10:34
like
10:35
you
10:35
would
10:35
see
10:35
on
10:35
those
10:36
programs.
10:36
And
10:37
we
10:37
were
10:38
sent
10:38
to
10:39
different
10:40
seminars
10:40
and
10:40
things
10:41
to
10:41
learn
10:41
how
10:41
to
10:41
be
10:42
good,
10:42
quiet
10:44
women
10:44
and
10:45
good
10:45
wives.
10:46
So
10:46
that
10:46
was
10:46
a
10:46
pretty
10:47
scary
10:47
place.
10:48
Sounds
10:48
very
10:49
handmade
10:49
tale.
10:50
Mm.
10:50
Yeah.
10:51
And
10:51
awfully
10:52
brave
10:52
of
10:52
you
10:52
to
10:52
be
10:53
able
10:53
to
10:53
speak
10:53
about,
10:53
because
10:54
I
10:54
know
10:54
a
10:54
lot
10:54
of
10:54
times
10:55
people
10:55
are
10:55
afraid
10:56
to
10:56
speak
10:56
out
10:57
and.
10:57
And
10:58
tell
10:58
their
10:58
own
10:58
truth,
10:59
even
10:59
though
10:59
it's
11:00
so
11:00
immensely
11:00
helpful
11:01
to
11:01
other
11:01
people
11:01
who
11:02
are
11:02
in
11:02
similar
11:02
situations
11:03
to
11:03
know
11:03
that
11:04
they're
11:04
not
11:04
alone.
11:05
Because
11:05
in
11:05
that
11:05
moment,
11:06
I
11:06
have
11:06
to
11:06
imagine
11:06
you
11:07
feel
11:07
alone
11:07
despite
11:08
being
11:08
surrounded
11:08
by
11:09
other
11:09
women
11:09
who
11:09
are
11:09
in
11:09
the
11:09
exact
11:10
same
11:10
scenario
11:10
as
11:11
you.
11:11
Yeah.
11:12
Even.
11:12
Even
11:13
in
11:13
the
11:13
church,
11:14
there
11:14
were
11:14
lots
11:14
of
11:14
other
11:15
people
11:15
who
11:16
ended
11:16
up
11:16
being
11:17
abused
11:18
in
11:18
different
11:18
ways,
11:19
and
11:19
it
11:19
ended
11:19
up
11:20
that
11:20
nobody
11:21
wanted
11:21
as
11:22
an
11:22
adult,
11:22
to
11:23
go
11:23
back
11:24
to
11:24
that.
11:24
So
11:24
I.
11:25
I
11:25
ended
11:25
up
11:26
being
11:26
the
11:26
only
11:26
person
11:27
that
11:27
pressed
11:27
charges.
11:28
Goodness.
11:32
Is
11:32
there.
11:33
And.
11:34
And.
11:34
And
11:34
this
11:34
is
11:35
me
11:35
just.
11:35
Is
11:36
there
11:36
a
11:36
community
11:37
that
11:37
is
11:38
available
11:40
for
11:40
survivors
11:41
of
11:41
that
11:41
sort
11:42
of
11:42
situation?
11:42
Is
11:42
this.
11:43
I
11:43
mean,
11:43
or
11:43
is
11:43
it.
11:43
Is
11:44
it
11:44
just
11:44
sort
11:44
of.
11:45
You
11:46
have
11:46
to
11:46
find
11:46
those
11:47
people
11:47
and
11:47
just
11:48
sort
11:48
of
11:48
coalesce
11:49
into
11:49
a.
11:49
And.
11:50
But
11:50
you
11:51
kind
11:51
of
11:51
do
11:51
that
11:51
too,
11:51
Right?
11:52
That's
11:52
there
11:53
everywhere.
11:53
And
11:53
many
11:54
of
11:54
them
11:54
have
11:54
come
11:55
to
11:55
paganism.
11:56
But
11:56
if
11:56
you.
11:56
If
11:57
you're
11:57
looking
11:57
for
11:57
something
11:58
like
11:58
that,
11:58
if
11:58
you
11:58
look
11:59
up
11:59
exvangelical,
12:00
you
12:01
will
12:01
find
12:01
lots
12:02
of
12:02
communities,
12:03
lots
12:03
of
12:04
YouTube
12:05
videos,
12:05
TikToks,
12:06
everything
12:07
that
12:07
exvangelical
12:08
is
12:09
what
12:09
people
12:09
usually
12:09
call
12:10
themselves.
12:10
Yeah.
12:11
Are
12:12
there
12:12
a
12:12
lot
12:12
of.
12:13
I'm
12:13
going
12:14
to
12:14
get
12:14
hit
12:14
by
12:14
lightning
12:14
for
12:15
saying
12:15
this.
12:15
Jokes.
12:16
It
12:16
is
12:16
storming
12:17
outside.
12:20
Paganism
12:22
is
12:22
extremely
12:23
interesting
12:23
to
12:24
me
12:24
because
12:24
even
12:26
those
12:27
that
12:28
are
12:28
evangelical
12:29
Christians,
12:30
they're
12:30
Protestants
12:31
or
12:31
Catholics,
12:33
I
12:34
will
12:34
hear
12:34
them
12:34
at
12:34
least
12:35
acknowledge
12:37
the
12:38
attachment
12:38
to.
12:39
What
12:39
was
12:40
paganism
12:41
before
12:41
Christianity
12:42
sort
12:43
of
12:44
took
12:44
hold.
12:46
Well,
12:46
you
12:46
can't
12:46
not.
12:47
I
12:47
mean,
12:48
that's
12:48
where
12:48
so
12:49
much
12:49
of
12:49
it
12:49
comes.
12:49
Yeah.
12:50
But
12:53
I
12:54
think
12:54
we
12:54
can
12:54
all
12:54
acknowledge
12:55
that
12:56
Christianity
12:56
is
12:57
only
12:57
as
12:57
popular
12:58
as
12:58
it
12:58
is
12:59
because
12:59
of
13:00
the
13:01
holidays
13:01
that
13:02
are
13:02
extremely
13:03
pain.
13:03
I'm
13:03
sorry.
13:04
Look,
13:06
I
13:06
grew
13:06
up
13:07
in
13:07
a
13:07
household
13:07
that
13:07
wasn't
13:08
very
13:08
religious.
13:09
And
13:09
then
13:09
when
13:09
I
13:10
moved
13:10
to
13:10
South
13:10
Carolina,
13:11
in
13:11
order
13:12
to
13:12
technically
13:13
marry
13:13
my
13:13
first
13:14
wife,
13:15
I
13:15
had
13:15
to
13:15
become
13:16
Catholic
13:17
because
13:18
they
13:18
wanted
13:18
a
13:18
Catholic
13:19
wedding.
13:19
And
13:19
I
13:19
had
13:19
to
13:20
be.
13:20
You
13:20
know,
13:20
I
13:20
had
13:20
to
13:21
go
13:21
through
13:21
Cria
13:22
So
13:22
that
13:22
I
13:22
could.
13:23
I
13:23
could
13:23
be
13:23
a
13:24
Catholic.
13:24
And
13:24
I
13:24
attached
13:25
myself
13:25
to
13:25
it.
13:25
I
13:26
liked
13:26
the
13:26
traditions
13:27
of
13:27
the
13:27
church,
13:28
and
13:28
I
13:28
certainly
13:28
believed
13:29
that
13:29
there
13:30
was
13:30
a
13:31
Jesus
13:31
Christ
13:31
that
13:32
existed,
13:32
and
13:32
I
13:33
had
13:33
no
13:33
issue
13:33
with
13:33
that.
13:35
The
13:35
issues
13:36
that
13:36
have
13:36
taken
13:37
me
13:37
and
13:37
pushed
13:38
me
13:38
further
13:38
away
13:38
from
13:39
any
13:39
really
13:39
organized
13:40
religion
13:41
is
13:41
just
13:41
the
13:41
amount
13:42
of
13:42
abusive
13:43
power
13:44
that
13:45
seems
13:45
to
13:45
be
13:46
held
13:46
onto
13:47
by
13:47
the
13:48
people
13:48
that
13:48
run
13:48
these
13:49
churches.
13:49
And
13:50
so
13:51
paganism
13:52
just
13:52
seems
13:52
like
13:53
fun.
13:55
I
13:55
think
13:55
it
13:55
is.
13:56
Yeah.
13:57
And
13:57
it's
13:57
definitely
13:58
something
13:58
that
13:58
you
13:59
are
13:59
your
13:59
own
14:00
sovereign
14:00
power
14:01
in.
14:01
You're
14:02
making
14:02
your
14:02
own
14:02
path.
14:03
There
14:03
is
14:03
no
14:04
Southern
14:05
Baptist
14:05
Convention
14:06
or
14:06
anything
14:07
like
14:07
that.
14:07
That's
14:07
telling
14:08
you
14:08
what
14:08
you
14:08
have
14:08
to
14:09
believe
14:09
and
14:10
what
14:10
you
14:10
have
14:10
to
14:10
do.
14:11
So
14:11
what
14:11
you're
14:11
telling
14:12
me
14:12
is
14:12
no
14:12
dues?
14:14
No
14:14
dues?
14:15
No,
14:15
no,
14:16
no,
14:16
no
14:16
tithing?
14:17
Is
14:17
that
14:17
what
14:18
we're.
14:18
I'm
14:18
sorry,
14:19
we
14:19
don't
14:20
do
14:20
tithing
14:21
in.
14:21
In
14:21
our
14:22
church.
14:22
Basically,
14:23
it's
14:23
a
14:23
pagan
14:24
church.
14:24
We
14:24
don't.
14:25
We
14:25
have
14:25
that
14:25
in
14:26
our
14:26
bylaws
14:26
that
14:27
we
14:27
are
14:27
not
14:28
forcing
14:28
people
14:28
to
14:29
tithe.
14:29
I
14:29
grew
14:30
up
14:31
with
14:32
being
14:32
told
14:33
that
14:33
you
14:34
had
14:34
to
14:34
give
14:34
10%
14:35
and
14:35
it
14:35
had
14:35
to
14:35
come
14:36
before
14:36
taxes
14:37
and
14:37
the
14:37
pastor
14:37
and
14:38
the.
14:38
The
14:39
elders
14:39
would
14:39
come
14:40
knocking
14:40
on
14:40
your
14:40
door
14:41
if
14:41
you
14:41
didn't
14:42
do
14:42
that.
14:43
And
14:43
I
14:43
don't
14:43
want
14:44
to.
14:44
I
14:44
don't
14:44
want
14:44
that.
14:45
I
14:45
don't
14:45
want
14:45
that
14:45
energy
14:46
around
14:46
me.
14:47
Yeah.
14:48
So.
14:49
And
14:49
I
14:49
know
14:49
I've
14:50
listened
14:50
to
14:50
a
14:50
couple
14:50
of
14:50
different
14:50
podcasts
14:51
that
14:51
you
14:51
were
14:51
on
14:51
or
14:52
little
14:52
snippets
14:52
of
14:52
them,
14:53
and
14:54
my
14:55
understanding
14:55
is
14:56
that
14:56
while
14:56
you
14:56
felt
14:57
the
14:57
connection
14:57
to
14:57
paganism
14:58
earlier
14:59
on,
14:59
you
15:00
didn't
15:00
consider
15:01
yourself
15:01
necessarily
15:02
a
15:02
witch
15:02
until
15:03
later
15:03
in
15:03
your
15:03
life.
15:04
Like,
15:04
that
15:04
was
15:04
something
15:05
that
15:05
you
15:05
came
15:05
to
15:06
later.
15:07
But
15:07
I
15:08
think.
15:08
And
15:09
I
15:09
don't
15:09
know
15:09
a
15:09
whole
15:09
lot
15:10
about
15:10
paganism,
15:11
but
15:11
I
15:12
feel
15:12
like
15:12
that's
15:12
probably
15:13
something
15:13
that,
15:13
to
15:14
some
15:14
degree,
15:14
maybe
15:14
you
15:15
have
15:15
an
15:15
inkling
15:15
of
15:15
a
15:16
thought
15:16
that
15:16
that's
15:16
part
15:17
of
15:17
who
15:17
you
15:17
are
15:17
or
15:17
how
15:18
you
15:18
think,
15:18
even
15:19
before
15:19
you
15:19
can
15:20
establish
15:20
it
15:20
as,
15:22
you
15:22
know,
15:22
this
15:23
design.
15:24
When
15:24
did
15:24
you
15:25
start
15:25
feeling
15:25
like
15:26
this
15:26
is
15:27
maybe
15:27
something
15:27
I
15:28
feel
15:28
spiritually
15:28
connected
15:29
to?
15:30
Paganism
15:31
or
15:31
witchcraft.
15:32
Paganism.
15:33
Paganism.
15:35
It
15:35
was
15:35
probably
15:36
about
15:37
22
15:38
or
15:38
23
15:39
years
15:39
ago.
15:40
And
15:42
oddly
15:42
enough,
15:43
my
15:43
inroad
15:44
was
15:44
DND.
15:46
Okay,
15:48
so
15:49
it
15:50
was
15:50
late
15:50
20s
15:51
for
15:51
me.
15:51
I'm.
15:51
I'm
15:52
in
15:52
my
15:52
50s,
15:53
and
15:54
I
15:55
was
15:55
getting.
15:55
I
15:55
was
15:55
out
15:56
of
15:56
the
15:56
church
15:56
by
15:56
that
15:56
time.
15:57
I
15:57
had
15:58
chronic
15:58
illness.
15:59
I
15:59
was
15:59
on
15:59
my
16:00
computer
16:00
all
16:00
the
16:00
time.
16:01
And
16:01
I
16:01
started
16:02
playing
16:02
D
16:02
and
16:02
D.
16:03
I
16:03
wanted
16:03
to
16:03
be
16:04
a
16:04
druid.
16:04
I
16:05
am
16:05
a
16:05
researcher.
16:06
I
16:06
looked
16:07
up
16:07
druidry
16:08
and
16:08
druids.
16:09
And
16:09
I
16:09
started
16:09
running
16:10
into
16:12
real
16:12
druids
16:13
and
16:14
real
16:14
organizations,
16:16
and
16:16
I
16:16
connected
16:17
with
16:17
that
16:17
so
16:18
much.
16:18
So
16:19
my
16:19
first
16:20
kind
16:20
of
16:20
jaunt
16:21
in
16:21
paganism
16:22
was
16:22
as
16:22
a
16:23
druid.
16:23
And
16:23
over
16:23
20
16:24
years
16:24
ago,
16:24
I
16:24
was
16:24
out
16:25
in
16:25
my
16:25
parents
16:26
yard.
16:27
When
16:27
I
16:27
was
16:27
over
16:27
at
16:28
their
16:28
house,
16:28
my
16:28
mom
16:29
sewed
16:29
me
16:29
a
16:29
white
16:30
robe
16:31
and
16:31
with
16:32
oak
16:32
leaves
16:33
down
16:33
it,
16:34
and
16:34
I
16:34
went
16:34
out
16:34
and
16:35
celebrated
16:35
my
16:36
first
16:36
full
16:36
moon
16:36
by
16:36
myself.
16:37
So
16:38
your
16:38
mother,
16:38
was
16:39
she
16:39
in
16:39
your
16:40
evangelical
16:40
church
16:41
with
16:41
you?
16:42
She
16:42
was.
16:43
And
16:43
she
16:43
supported
16:44
this?
16:45
She
16:45
did,
16:46
because
16:47
she
16:47
helps
16:48
me
16:48
in
16:48
my
16:48
healing.
16:50
My
16:50
story
16:51
is
16:51
very
16:51
kind
16:52
of
16:52
ups
16:53
and
16:53
downs.
16:53
And
16:53
so
16:54
there
16:54
was
16:54
a.
16:54
There
16:54
were
16:55
a
16:55
couple
16:55
of
16:55
points
16:55
where
16:56
my
16:56
husband
16:57
and
16:57
I
16:57
were
16:57
separated
16:58
and
16:58
even
16:59
legally
16:59
separated
17:00
at
17:00
one
17:00
time,
17:01
and
17:01
I
17:02
had
17:02
a
17:02
lot
17:02
of
17:02
healing
17:03
that
17:03
I
17:04
needed
17:04
to
17:04
do.
17:05
The
17:05
second
17:05
time
17:06
we
17:06
were
17:06
separated
17:06
was
17:07
because
17:07
his
17:07
church,
17:08
because
17:08
he
17:08
was
17:08
still
17:08
in
17:09
church,
17:09
had
17:10
told
17:10
him
17:10
that
17:10
I
17:10
was
17:11
not
17:11
safe
17:11
to
17:11
be
17:11
around
17:12
our
17:12
young
17:13
children,
17:13
that
17:14
I
17:14
was
17:14
demon
17:14
possessed,
17:15
and
17:16
that
17:16
he
17:16
needed
17:17
to
17:17
let
17:17
the
17:17
unbeliever
17:18
depart.
17:19
And
17:19
so
17:20
that
17:20
is
17:20
when
17:20
I
17:20
went
17:21
to
17:21
live
17:22
with
17:22
my
17:23
parents.
17:24
And
17:24
my
17:25
mother
17:25
got
17:26
dbt,
17:27
that
17:27
kind
17:27
of
17:28
therapy
17:28
for
17:28
me
17:29
and
17:29
counseling,
17:30
and
17:31
also
17:31
supported
17:33
my
17:33
journey
17:34
into
17:34
paganism,
17:35
Even
17:35
though
17:35
she
17:35
did
17:36
not
17:36
understand
17:36
it
17:37
or
17:37
agree
17:37
with
17:37
it,
17:38
she
17:38
wanted
17:39
to
17:39
support
17:39
me
17:40
in
17:40
whatever
17:40
I
17:41
needed
17:41
to
17:41
do
17:42
to
17:42
heal
17:42
and
17:43
not
17:43
be
17:44
as
17:44
broken
17:44
as
17:45
I
17:45
felt
17:45
that
17:45
I
17:45
was.
17:46
So
17:46
I
17:46
really
17:46
appreciate
17:46
that
17:47
she
17:47
showed.
17:47
You
17:47
a
17:47
beautiful
17:48
robe
17:48
to
17:49
go
17:49
out
17:49
and
17:49
celebrate
17:49
the
17:49
full
17:50
moon.
17:51
And
17:52
so
17:53
to
17:53
go
17:54
back
17:54
a
17:54
little
17:54
bit
17:54
into
17:55
the
17:55
evangelical
17:56
Christian,
17:57
the
17:57
church
17:57
that
17:58
you
17:58
were
17:58
involved
17:58
in,
17:58
that
17:59
your
17:59
husband
17:59
was
17:59
with
18:00
these
18:00
Christians,
18:04
did
18:05
they
18:05
offer
18:05
anything
18:06
besides
18:06
judgment
18:07
and
18:08
name
18:08
calling
18:10
to
18:10
try
18:10
and
18:11
encourage
18:11
you
18:12
to
18:13
recognize
18:13
that
18:14
maybe
18:14
what
18:15
they
18:15
were
18:15
doing
18:16
was
18:16
right?
18:16
I
18:17
mean,
18:18
I
18:18
guess
18:19
I
18:19
just.
18:19
I.
18:19
That's
18:20
one
18:20
of
18:20
those.
18:20
That's
18:20
one
18:20
of
18:21
those
18:21
things
18:21
that
18:21
I
18:21
always.
18:21
That
18:22
I
18:22
go
18:22
back
18:22
to
18:22
is
18:23
just
18:23
when.
18:24
When
18:24
I
18:24
think
18:24
of
18:25
Christianity,
18:25
just
18:26
the
18:26
amount
18:26
of
18:26
judgment
18:27
that's
18:27
involved
18:28
in
18:28
some
18:28
of
18:28
these
18:28
evangelical
18:29
churches.
18:29
But,
18:30
like,
18:30
you
18:31
know,
18:31
your
18:31
husband.
18:32
Are.
18:33
You
18:33
and
18:33
your
18:33
husband
18:33
are
18:34
still
18:34
together
18:34
now,
18:34
or.
18:35
We
18:35
are,
18:35
yeah.
18:36
And.
18:36
And.
18:36
And
18:37
he
18:37
supports
18:37
you
18:37
through
18:38
your
18:38
journey?
18:38
He
18:39
supports
18:39
me
18:39
completely
18:40
now,
18:41
yeah.
18:43
But
18:44
when
18:44
the
18:44
church
18:44
was
18:45
saying
18:46
these
18:46
terrible
18:46
things
18:47
or
18:48
trying
18:48
to
18:48
make
18:48
it
18:49
look
18:49
as
18:49
though
18:49
you
18:49
had
18:50
something
18:50
that
18:50
was
18:50
wrong
18:51
with
18:51
you,
18:52
did
18:53
the
18:53
church
18:53
itself
18:54
offer
18:54
any
18:54
sort
18:55
of
18:56
assistance
18:56
or
18:57
counseling
18:57
or
18:58
anything
18:58
like
18:58
that?
19:02
Didn't
19:02
have
19:03
any
19:03
sort
19:03
of
19:03
preconceived
19:05
bylaws
19:05
or
19:06
requirements.
19:07
So
19:08
I
19:08
had
19:08
agreed
19:08
to
19:08
go
19:09
to
19:09
marriage
19:10
counseling
19:11
wherever
19:11
he
19:12
wanted
19:12
me
19:12
to
19:12
go,
19:13
and
19:13
I
19:14
went
19:14
to
19:14
his
19:14
church.
19:15
And
19:15
it
19:15
wasn't,
19:16
of
19:16
course,
19:16
the
19:16
same
19:16
church
19:17
that
19:17
I
19:17
grew
19:17
up
19:17
in.
19:17
It
19:18
wasn't
19:18
nearly
19:18
as
19:19
strict
19:20
as
19:20
that,
19:20
but
19:20
still,
19:22
I
19:22
was
19:22
very
19:23
sure
19:23
that
19:23
I
19:23
was
19:23
pagan
19:24
at
19:24
the
19:24
time.
19:25
I
19:25
was
19:26
reading
19:26
oracle
19:27
cards
19:27
and
19:27
tarot
19:28
cards
19:28
and
19:28
doing
19:29
magic
19:29
and
19:29
that
19:30
sort
19:30
of
19:30
thing,
19:30
and
19:31
I
19:31
was
19:31
open
19:32
about
19:32
it.
19:33
And
19:33
so
19:33
when
19:33
I
19:33
went
19:33
to
19:34
pastoral
19:34
counseling
19:35
several
19:36
times
19:36
with
19:37
him
19:37
and
19:37
one
19:38
of
19:38
the
19:38
pastors,
19:40
it
19:40
kind
19:40
of
19:41
was
19:41
a
19:41
blind
19:41
side
19:42
to
19:42
me
19:42
because
19:43
he
19:44
met
19:44
with
19:44
my
19:44
husband
19:45
without
19:46
me
19:46
there,
19:46
that
19:46
I
19:46
didn't
19:47
know
19:47
about.
19:47
And
19:48
that's
19:48
when
19:48
my
19:48
husband
19:49
came
19:49
home.
19:49
So
19:50
he
19:50
was.
19:50
He
19:50
was
19:50
nice
19:51
to
19:51
my
19:51
face,
19:53
wonderful,
19:53
you
19:54
know,
19:54
trying
19:54
to
19:54
help
19:55
us
19:55
and
19:55
everything.
19:55
And
19:56
then
19:56
he
19:56
snuck
19:56
my
19:57
husband
19:57
in
19:58
and
19:58
told
19:59
him
19:59
to
19:59
let
19:59
the
19:59
unbeliever
20:00
depart,
20:00
that,
20:01
you
20:01
know,
20:02
I
20:02
was
20:02
dangerous
20:02
for
20:03
my
20:03
children.
20:04
And
20:04
that
20:04
was
20:04
the
20:04
end
20:04
of
20:05
that.
20:05
Yeah.
20:05
And
20:06
my
20:06
husband
20:06
no
20:06
longer
20:07
goes
20:07
to
20:07
that
20:08
church
20:08
or
20:08
any
20:08
church.
20:10
What
20:10
does
20:10
it
20:11
mean
20:11
to
20:11
you
20:11
to.
20:12
Or
20:12
I
20:12
guess
20:13
for
20:14
anyone
20:14
that
20:14
might
20:14
not
20:15
understand,
20:15
including
20:15
myself,
20:16
what
20:16
does
20:16
it
20:16
mean
20:17
to
20:17
be
20:17
pagan?
20:20
To
20:20
me,
20:21
it's
20:22
a
20:22
huge
20:23
umbrella.
20:23
So
20:24
I'm
20:24
going
20:24
to
20:24
speak
20:24
about
20:25
my
20:25
own
20:25
personal
20:26
belief
20:26
and
20:26
anyone
20:27
else
20:27
who's
20:27
pagan
20:28
who
20:28
doesn't
20:28
resonate
20:29
with
20:29
that,
20:29
just
20:30
understand
20:30
that
20:30
it's
20:30
a
20:31
huge
20:31
umbrella
20:32
for
20:32
me,
20:32
it
20:32
is
20:33
a
20:33
deep
20:33
connection
20:34
to
20:35
nature,
20:36
to
20:36
the
20:36
cycles
20:37
of
20:37
nature.
20:38
Learning
20:39
from
20:40
the
20:40
moon,
20:40
the
20:41
sun,
20:41
the
20:42
Earth,
20:43
following
20:44
all
20:44
of
20:45
the
20:45
seasonal
20:46
celebrations
20:47
that
20:47
come
20:47
through,
20:48
and
20:50
having
20:50
a
20:50
right.
20:51
We
20:51
call
20:51
it
20:51
a
20:51
right
20:51
relationship
20:52
with
20:53
nature,
20:54
whatever
20:54
that
20:54
means,
20:55
a
20:55
right
20:55
relationship
20:55
with
20:56
other
20:56
people,
20:56
because
20:57
we're
20:57
all
20:57
polygon
20:58
part
20:58
of
20:58
nature.
20:59
And
20:59
I'm
20:59
a
20:59
pantheist
21:00
and
21:00
an
21:00
animus.
21:01
So
21:01
I
21:01
believe
21:02
that
21:02
everything
21:03
is
21:03
one.
21:03
It's
21:04
all
21:04
one
21:04
energy.
21:05
And
21:06
I
21:06
believe
21:07
that
21:07
everything
21:07
has
21:07
a
21:08
little
21:08
bit
21:08
of
21:08
consciousness
21:09
in
21:09
it.
21:09
So
21:09
you'll
21:09
see
21:10
me
21:10
talking
21:10
to
21:10
the
21:10
trees,
21:11
talking
21:12
to
21:12
the
21:12
bees,
21:12
the
21:12
crows,
21:14
the
21:14
ground,
21:15
a
21:15
rock.
21:16
Because
21:17
I
21:17
believe
21:17
that
21:18
we
21:18
are
21:18
all
21:19
just
21:19
little
21:19
bits
21:19
and
21:20
pieces
21:20
of
21:20
the
21:20
consciousness
21:21
of
21:21
the
21:21
universe,
21:22
and
21:22
we're
21:23
connected
21:23
to
21:23
that.
21:24
So
21:24
connection
21:25
and
21:25
relationship
21:26
is
21:27
really
21:27
what
21:27
my
21:28
pagan
21:28
path
21:29
is
21:29
about.
21:30
I
21:30
was
21:31
a
21:31
boy
21:31
Scout
21:34
and,
21:35
you
21:35
know,
21:36
but
21:37
I
21:37
think.
21:38
I
21:38
think
21:38
it's.
21:38
I
21:39
think
21:39
it's
21:39
fascinating
21:40
that.
21:40
That.
21:41
That
21:41
just
21:42
being
21:44
aware
21:44
of
21:45
your
21:45
environment
21:46
and
21:47
how.
21:47
How
21:48
much
21:48
of
21:49
a
21:49
role
21:49
that
21:49
environment
21:50
plays
21:50
on
21:51
your
21:51
life
21:51
and
21:51
how
21:52
you
21:52
play
21:52
a
21:53
role
21:53
in
21:53
that.
21:53
You
21:54
know,
21:54
whether
21:54
it's
21:54
nature
21:55
and
21:56
everything
21:56
else
21:56
like
21:56
that,
21:57
that
21:58
to.
21:58
To
21:58
have
21:59
that
21:59
defined
22:00
by
22:01
a
22:02
grouping
22:02
or
22:02
a
22:03
title
22:03
like
22:03
paganism
22:05
is.
22:06
It
22:07
almost
22:07
seems
22:07
unnecessary
22:08
because
22:09
I
22:09
think,
22:09
you
22:09
know,
22:11
everything.
22:11
Everything
22:12
we
22:12
do.
22:13
So
22:14
Tesla
22:14
is.
22:15
Is
22:16
a
22:16
Tesla
22:16
worth
22:16
buying?
22:17
Or
22:17
is
22:17
the
22:17
lithium
22:18
battery
22:18
mining
22:19
so
22:19
awful,
22:20
the
22:20
environment
22:20
that
22:20
we
22:21
shouldn't
22:21
do
22:21
it?
22:22
That's,
22:23
that
22:23
is
22:23
the
22:23
question.
22:26
So
22:26
here's
22:27
an
22:27
on
22:27
topic
22:27
question.
22:29
Sorry.
22:30
You
22:31
know,
22:31
it's.
22:31
Sorry,
22:32
I
22:32
make
22:33
jokes.
22:33
The,
22:34
the
22:35
transition
22:36
from
22:36
paganism
22:37
to
22:37
witchcraft
22:38
then,
22:38
because
22:38
they're
22:39
not
22:39
necessarily
22:39
the
22:39
same,
22:40
right.
22:40
Like
22:40
they,
22:40
they
22:41
kind
22:41
of
22:41
overlap,
22:42
but
22:42
they're
22:42
kind
22:42
of
22:43
two
22:43
different
22:43
sects.
22:44
Right.
22:44
Am
22:44
I
22:45
understanding
22:45
that
22:45
correctly?
22:46
So
22:47
witchcraft,
22:47
the
22:48
way
22:48
I
22:48
see
22:48
it,
22:48
is
22:49
a
22:49
skill
22:49
set.
22:50
I
22:50
know
22:50
Christian
22:51
witches,
22:52
I
22:52
know
22:52
Jewish
22:53
witches.
22:53
I
22:54
know
22:54
atheist
22:54
witches.
22:55
It's
22:55
a
22:56
skill
22:56
set
22:57
and
22:57
it
22:57
goes
22:58
very
22:58
well
22:58
with
22:58
paganism.
22:59
So
23:00
I
23:00
am
23:00
a
23:00
pagan
23:01
witch,
23:01
but
23:01
there
23:01
are
23:02
other
23:02
types
23:02
of
23:02
witches
23:03
out
23:03
there.
23:04
I
23:04
did
23:04
not
23:04
know
23:04
that.
23:06
So
23:06
that's
23:06
interesting.
23:07
When
23:07
did
23:07
you
23:08
realize
23:08
it,
23:09
that
23:09
you
23:09
were
23:09
a
23:10
witch?
23:11
I
23:11
had
23:11
been
23:11
toying
23:12
with
23:12
that
23:12
probably
23:13
the
23:13
last
23:14
10
23:14
years
23:15
or
23:15
so.
23:15
But
23:16
the
23:16
way
23:16
that
23:16
I
23:16
was
23:16
brought
23:17
up
23:17
had
23:18
such
23:18
a
23:18
bad
23:19
taste
23:19
in
23:19
my
23:19
mouth
23:20
about
23:20
the
23:20
term
23:20
witch.
23:21
There
23:21
was
23:21
so
23:21
much
23:22
just
23:22
negative
23:23
about
23:23
it
23:24
that
23:24
it,
23:24
that
23:25
just
23:25
like
23:25
other
23:26
words
23:27
like
23:27
prayer
23:28
also
23:28
had
23:29
a
23:29
bad
23:29
connotation
23:30
because
23:30
of
23:30
what
23:30
happened
23:31
in
23:31
my
23:31
church.
23:32
That
23:32
there
23:33
are
23:33
certain
23:33
things
23:33
that
23:34
I
23:34
had
23:34
to
23:34
reclaim
23:35
with
23:35
my
23:35
own
23:36
definition
23:37
and
23:37
not
23:38
how
23:38
my
23:39
church
23:40
saw
23:40
it.
23:40
When,
23:41
when
23:41
I
23:41
was
23:41
growing
23:41
up
23:42
and.
23:42
Which
23:43
was
23:43
one
23:43
of
23:43
those
23:43
things.
23:44
And
23:44
when
23:44
I
23:44
did
23:45
research
23:45
on
23:45
it
23:45
because
23:46
I,
23:46
I
23:46
heard
23:46
I
23:47
had
23:47
other
23:47
people
23:47
saying
23:48
they
23:48
were
23:48
witches
23:48
and
23:49
the
23:49
way
23:49
they
23:50
described
23:50
it,
23:50
I
23:50
felt
23:51
like,
23:51
well,
23:51
that
23:51
was
23:52
me.
23:52
My
23:52
mother
23:53
was
23:53
very
23:53
against
23:54
the
23:54
word
23:55
witch
23:56
and
23:56
she
23:56
still,
23:57
she
23:57
does
23:57
not
23:58
consider
23:58
herself
23:58
a
23:58
witch,
23:59
even
23:59
though
23:59
she
23:59
will
23:59
come
24:00
and
24:00
do
24:01
magic
24:01
with
24:01
me.
24:02
So
24:03
it
24:03
was
24:03
just
24:03
a
24:04
kind
24:04
of
24:04
a
24:05
gradual
24:05
thing
24:06
of
24:06
the
24:06
more
24:06
research
24:07
that
24:07
I
24:07
did,
24:07
the
24:08
more
24:08
I
24:08
realized
24:09
that
24:09
I
24:09
will
24:10
claim
24:10
this
24:10
and
24:11
it
24:11
will
24:11
be
24:11
what
24:11
I
24:12
want
24:12
it
24:12
to
24:12
be.
24:14
What
24:15
sort
24:15
of
24:15
magic
24:16
are
24:16
we
24:16
talking
24:16
about?
24:17
Like,
24:17
like
24:17
what
24:18
is.
24:18
Because
24:19
I
24:20
know
24:20
a
24:20
couple
24:21
card
24:21
tricks.
24:21
But,
24:23
but
24:23
not
24:24
really
24:24
well.
24:25
Well,
24:25
I
24:25
mean,
24:26
I
24:26
may
24:27
be
24:27
able
24:27
to
24:27
convince
24:27
you
24:28
that
24:28
that
24:28
is
24:28
your
24:28
card.
24:30
But
24:31
like
24:31
when
24:31
you,
24:31
when
24:32
you
24:32
say
24:32
things,
24:32
when
24:32
you,
24:33
when
24:33
you
24:33
talk
24:33
about
24:33
magic,
24:34
what,
24:34
what,
24:34
what
24:34
sort
24:35
of
24:35
things
24:35
are
24:35
we
24:35
talking
24:35
about?
24:37
To
24:38
me,
24:38
magic
24:38
is
24:39
anytime
24:39
you
24:40
are
24:40
trying
24:40
to
24:41
manipulate
24:41
and
24:41
change
24:42
the
24:42
universe
24:43
around
24:43
you.
24:44
So
24:45
as
24:46
a
24:46
child,
24:46
one
24:47
of
24:47
the
24:47
things
24:47
that
24:47
I
24:47
did
24:48
that
24:49
I
24:49
got
24:50
in
24:50
trouble
24:50
for
24:50
because
24:51
it
24:51
was
24:51
seen
24:51
as
24:51
demonic,
24:52
is
24:53
I
24:53
would
24:53
have
24:54
dreams
24:54
of
24:55
things
24:55
that
24:55
would
24:56
happen.
24:57
I
24:57
don't
24:57
think
24:58
that
24:58
I
24:58
created
24:59
it
24:59
to
24:59
happen,
24:59
but
24:59
I
25:00
knew
25:00
what
25:00
was
25:00
going
25:00
to
25:00
happen.
25:01
I
25:01
would
25:01
sing
25:02
to
25:02
the
25:02
rain
25:02
outside
25:03
my
25:03
window,
25:04
and
25:04
I
25:04
would
25:04
sing
25:05
for
25:05
it
25:05
to
25:05
stop
25:05
raining.
25:06
It
25:06
would
25:06
stop
25:07
and
25:07
then
25:07
I'd
25:08
sing
25:08
and
25:08
it
25:08
would
25:08
start
25:09
again.
25:10
So
25:11
as
25:11
a
25:12
energy
25:12
manipulator,
25:13
I
25:14
do
25:14
healing
25:15
energy.
25:15
I
25:15
think
25:16
Everything
25:16
that
25:16
we
25:17
do
25:17
has
25:17
energy.
25:18
Science
25:18
has
25:19
proven
25:19
that
25:19
everything
25:20
is
25:20
energy.
25:21
That
25:22
when
25:22
you
25:22
are
25:23
trying
25:23
to.
25:24
Like
25:24
an
25:24
Appalachia,
25:25
the
25:25
weather,
25:26
magic
25:26
is
25:26
very
25:27
strong.
25:27
So
25:27
if
25:28
I
25:28
want
25:28
the
25:28
wind
25:29
or
25:29
the
25:30
rain
25:30
to
25:30
not,
25:31
you
25:32
know,
25:32
come
25:32
down
25:33
on
25:33
my
25:33
party,
25:34
I
25:34
will
25:35
blow
25:35
it
25:35
across
25:36
the
25:36
street.
25:36
And
25:36
people.
25:37
I've
25:37
had
25:37
multitudes
25:38
of
25:38
people
25:39
see
25:40
it
25:40
happen,
25:41
and
25:41
it
25:41
will
25:41
be
25:41
raining
25:42
across
25:42
the
25:42
street,
25:42
but
25:43
not
25:43
on
25:43
our
25:43
party.
25:44
So
25:44
that's
25:44
just
25:45
an
25:45
example,
25:45
I
25:45
think,
25:46
healing.
25:47
I
25:47
think
25:47
praying
25:48
for
25:48
someone's
25:48
good
25:49
health,
25:49
praying
25:50
for
25:50
a
25:50
parking
25:51
spot
25:51
down
25:52
at
25:52
the
25:52
State
25:52
House,
25:53
and
25:53
it
25:54
happening,
25:54
it
25:54
being
25:55
right
25:55
there,
25:55
open.
25:57
Any
25:57
time
25:58
that
25:58
you
25:58
are
25:58
manipulating
26:00
the
26:00
universe,
26:01
you
26:01
are
26:01
doing
26:01
magic,
26:02
everything
26:02
is
26:03
magical.
26:03
People
26:04
just.
26:04
They
26:05
give
26:05
it
26:05
a
26:05
bad
26:05
name,
26:05
and
26:06
they
26:06
think
26:06
that
26:06
it's
26:07
just
26:07
kind
26:07
of
26:07
this
26:08
weird
26:08
thing
26:09
that
26:09
you're
26:09
doing
26:10
all
26:10
this
26:11
stuff
26:11
with
26:11
smoke
26:12
and
26:12
mirrors.
26:12
And
26:12
maybe
26:13
I
26:13
use
26:13
smoke
26:13
and
26:13
mirrors
26:14
sometimes,
26:14
and
26:15
maybe
26:15
I
26:15
use
26:15
herbs
26:16
and
26:16
sticks
26:17
and
26:17
things
26:18
like
26:18
that.
26:18
But
26:19
our
26:19
voice
26:21
is
26:21
used
26:21
in
26:21
every
26:22
religion,
26:22
every
26:23
culture
26:23
to
26:23
change
26:24
the
26:24
world
26:24
around
26:25
us.
26:25
And
26:25
that.
26:25
That's
26:26
the
26:26
magic.
26:26
And
26:26
so
26:27
that's.
26:27
That's
26:27
what
26:27
I
26:27
do
26:28
when
26:28
I
26:28
do
26:28
hypnosis.
26:29
I
26:30
think
26:30
that's
26:30
magic,
26:31
too.
26:31
When
26:31
I
26:31
went
26:31
and
26:32
spoke
26:32
at
26:32
a
26:32
Presbyterian
26:33
church,
26:33
I
26:33
told
26:34
all
26:34
those
26:34
people
26:34
that
26:34
when
26:35
they
26:35
pray
26:36
that
26:36
they're
26:36
casting
26:37
a
26:37
spell.
26:38
They
26:38
didn't
26:38
take
26:38
it
26:38
too
26:39
kindly,
26:39
but
26:39
I
26:40
believe
26:40
that
26:40
that's
26:40
the
26:41
truth.
26:43
Well,
26:44
at
26:44
least
26:44
it
26:44
was
26:44
the
26:45
Presbyterians
26:45
and
26:45
not
26:45
the
26:45
Pentecostals,
26:46
because,
26:47
you
26:48
know,
26:48
or
26:48
the.
26:49
Or
26:49
the
26:49
Independent
26:50
Baptist,
26:50
because
26:50
they
26:50
may
26:51
have
26:51
thrown
26:51
snakes
26:51
and
26:51
rats
26:52
at
26:52
you.
26:52
So,
26:54
you
26:54
know,
26:55
I'm
26:55
generalizing,
26:56
but
26:56
I'm
26:56
being
26:56
honest.
26:59
So
27:00
I
27:00
want
27:00
to.
27:01
I
27:01
want
27:01
to
27:01
talk
27:01
about
27:02
a
27:02
little
27:02
bit
27:02
about
27:02
the
27:02
spiritual
27:03
alchemy.
27:05
You
27:06
call
27:06
yourself
27:06
a
27:06
spiritual
27:07
alchemist.
27:08
It's
27:08
not
27:08
something
27:08
you
27:08
hear
27:09
every
27:09
day.
27:09
So
27:10
can
27:10
you
27:10
break
27:10
that
27:11
down
27:11
for
27:11
us?
27:12
What
27:12
is
27:12
it
27:12
exactly
27:12
that
27:13
a
27:13
spiritual
27:14
alchemist
27:14
is?
27:17
Alchemy
27:18
is
27:18
about
27:19
transmutation,
27:20
transformation.
27:22
So
27:22
I
27:22
have
27:22
clients
27:23
come
27:23
to
27:23
me
27:24
for
27:24
whatever
27:24
reason,
27:25
because
27:25
I'm
27:25
a
27:25
transpersonal
27:26
hypnosis
27:27
practitioner.
27:28
So
27:28
we're
27:28
dealing
27:29
with
27:29
mind,
27:29
body,
27:29
and
27:30
spirit.
27:31
So
27:31
if
27:31
I
27:31
have
27:31
someone
27:32
come
27:32
to
27:32
me
27:32
and
27:33
they
27:33
are
27:33
carrying
27:33
these
27:34
heavy
27:34
burdens
27:35
from
27:36
abuse,
27:37
from
27:37
trauma,
27:38
from
27:38
different
27:38
things
27:38
that
27:39
have
27:39
happened
27:39
to
27:39
them
27:39
in
27:39
their
27:40
past.
27:41
They're
27:41
holding
27:42
on
27:42
to
27:42
that
27:42
energy
27:43
in
27:43
their
27:43
bodies,
27:44
in
27:44
their
27:44
minds,
27:44
and
27:45
in
27:45
their
27:45
spiritual
27:46
world.
27:47
And
27:47
so
27:47
as
27:47
an
27:48
alchemist,
27:49
my
27:49
job
27:49
is
27:50
to
27:50
ask
27:50
the
27:50
right
27:51
questions,
27:52
to
27:52
figure
27:52
out
27:53
what
27:53
I
27:53
need
27:53
to
27:54
say
27:54
in
27:54
order
27:54
to
27:54
help
27:55
make
27:55
this
27:55
change
27:55
happen
27:56
and
27:56
to
27:57
encourage
27:57
them
27:58
to
27:58
make
27:58
the
27:58
different
27:59
changes.
28:00
And
28:00
also
28:01
using
28:01
hypnosis
28:02
and
28:02
Other
28:02
healing
28:03
techniques,
28:04
tapping,
28:05
auriculotherapy,
28:06
all
28:06
the
28:06
different
28:07
tools
28:07
and
28:07
techniques
28:08
and
28:08
modalities
28:09
that
28:09
I
28:09
know
28:09
if
28:09
they
28:10
are
28:10
needed.
28:11
All
28:11
of
28:11
that
28:11
together
28:12
is
28:12
almost
28:12
like
28:13
this
28:13
alchemist
28:14
lab
28:15
that
28:15
we're
28:15
putting
28:15
these
28:16
different
28:16
ingredients
28:17
in
28:17
and
28:18
transmuting
28:19
what
28:19
is
28:20
harming
28:21
them
28:21
and
28:22
hurting
28:22
them
28:22
in
28:22
their
28:22
life.
28:23
A
28:24
lot
28:24
of
28:24
times
28:24
it's
28:24
because
28:25
they
28:25
just
28:25
don't
28:25
even
28:26
love
28:26
themselves
28:26
that,
28:27
that
28:27
can
28:27
change
28:28
your
28:28
life.
28:28
If
28:28
you
28:28
start
28:29
loving
28:29
yourself
28:30
and
28:30
transmuting
28:31
all
28:32
the
28:32
negative
28:33
into
28:34
something
28:34
that
28:34
they
28:35
can
28:35
then
28:35
take
28:36
and
28:36
have
28:36
a
28:36
more
28:37
healed,
28:37
a
28:37
more
28:37
happy,
28:39
a
28:39
better
28:39
life.
28:40
Even
28:40
if
28:40
it's,
28:40
even
28:40
if
28:41
they
28:41
come
28:41
to
28:41
me
28:42
to
28:42
do
28:42
well
28:42
in
28:43
a
28:43
test
28:43
because
28:44
hypnosis
28:44
is
28:45
good
28:45
for
28:45
that
28:45
or
28:45
to
28:46
do
28:47
better
28:47
at
28:47
sports,
28:48
you're
28:48
still
28:49
taking
28:49
their
28:50
beliefs
28:50
about
28:51
that,
28:51
transmuting
28:52
that
28:53
into
28:54
them
28:54
being
28:54
better
28:55
at
28:56
whatever
28:56
they're
28:56
doing
28:57
or
28:57
being
28:57
able
28:57
to
28:58
remember
28:58
things
28:58
on
28:58
a
28:59
test.
28:59
Does
28:59
that
28:59
make
29:00
sense?
29:01
No,
29:01
I
29:02
think
29:02
that,
29:02
yeah,
29:04
that
29:04
makes
29:04
sense
29:04
to
29:04
me
29:06
in
29:06
the
29:06
idea
29:07
without
29:07
associating
29:08
it
29:08
with
29:10
magic.
29:11
But
29:14
basically
29:15
if
29:15
I
29:15
accept
29:16
the
29:16
idea
29:17
of
29:17
magic,
29:17
then
29:18
I
29:19
guess
29:19
that
29:19
sort
29:19
of
29:20
gives
29:20
it
29:21
a,
29:23
it
29:24
rather
29:25
than
29:25
just
29:25
being
29:25
a
29:25
skill
29:26
of,
29:26
of
29:27
pushing
29:28
or
29:29
acknowledging
29:29
someone's
29:30
pain
29:31
or
29:31
weakness
29:31
or
29:31
things
29:32
like
29:32
that
29:32
and
29:32
then
29:32
moving
29:33
them
29:33
towards
29:33
that
29:34
healing
29:34
by
29:35
allowing
29:35
them
29:36
to
29:36
heal
29:36
themselves.
29:38
The
29:39
magic
29:39
part
29:39
is
29:40
the
29:40
part
29:40
that
29:41
I
29:41
wind
29:42
up
29:42
having
29:42
a
29:42
hard
29:42
time
29:42
with
29:43
only
29:44
because
29:45
you
29:45
know,
29:45
I,
29:46
I,
29:47
in
29:47
my
29:47
head
29:48
I,
29:48
I
29:48
apply,
29:49
you
29:50
know,
29:50
science.
29:50
When
29:50
you
29:51
mention
29:51
like,
29:52
I
29:52
mean
29:52
she.
29:52
Did
29:53
over
29:53
100
29:53
hours.
29:54
Yeah,
29:54
no,
29:54
no,
29:54
no,
29:54
totally
29:55
agree.
29:55
No,
29:56
no
29:56
therapy
29:56
like
29:56
it's
29:57
totally
29:57
agree.
29:57
The
29:58
science
29:58
to
29:58
it.
29:58
And,
29:59
and
29:59
I'm,
29:59
and
29:59
of
30:00
course
30:00
I'm
30:00
coming
30:00
at
30:00
it
30:00
from
30:01
you
30:01
know,
30:01
listeners
30:02
that
30:02
would
30:02
potentially
30:03
be
30:03
skeptical
30:03
of
30:04
it.
30:04
We
30:04
have,
30:04
we
30:05
have
30:05
people
30:05
that,
30:05
that
30:06
listen
30:06
that
30:06
are,
30:06
that
30:07
are
30:08
very
30:08
Christian.
30:08
We,
30:09
we
30:09
have
30:09
a
30:09
woman
30:10
who,
30:12
a
30:12
diatribe
30:13
for
30:13
our
30:13
podcast,
30:14
Sarah
30:14
Jane,
30:15
who
30:15
is
30:15
an
30:15
evangelical,
30:16
I'm
30:17
sorry
30:17
is
30:17
a,
30:17
is
30:17
a,
30:18
a
30:18
minister,
30:19
she's
30:19
a
30:20
lay
30:20
minister.
30:22
So
30:22
of
30:22
course
30:22
those
30:22
are,
30:23
you
30:23
know,
30:23
and
30:23
having
30:24
grown
30:24
up
30:25
in
30:25
and
30:25
around
30:26
Christianity,
30:27
I
30:28
certainly
30:28
recognize
30:29
the,
30:30
the,
30:33
I
30:33
guess
30:33
a
30:34
degree
30:34
of
30:35
the
30:35
skepticism
30:37
of
30:37
the
30:37
idea
30:38
of
30:38
magic.
30:39
And
30:40
how
30:40
is
30:41
like
30:41
with
30:42
me
30:43
one
30:43
of
30:43
the
30:43
things.
30:45
I
30:45
have
30:45
a
30:45
group
30:46
that
30:46
we
30:46
go
30:47
and
30:47
do
30:48
Paranormal
30:48
Investigations.
30:50
I
30:50
am
30:50
a
30:51
full
30:51
on
30:51
skeptic
30:52
in
30:52
the
30:52
idea
30:53
that
30:53
one,
30:54
that
30:54
there's
30:54
even
30:55
an
30:55
afterlife
30:55
and
30:56
two,
30:56
that
30:56
that
30:56
afterlife
30:57
has
30:57
the
30:57
ability
30:58
to
30:58
have
31:00
manipulative
31:03
spirits
31:04
that
31:04
would
31:05
have
31:05
some
31:05
sort
31:05
of
31:06
effect
31:06
on
31:06
the
31:06
environment.
31:08
But
31:08
I've
31:08
documented
31:09
shit
31:09
that
31:09
I
31:09
don't
31:10
understand.
31:11
So.
31:11
But
31:12
I'm
31:12
still
31:12
very
31:12
skeptical
31:13
of
31:13
it.
31:13
Just
31:14
it's
31:14
Just
31:14
my,
31:14
it's
31:15
just
31:15
my,
31:15
my
31:15
Persona,
31:16
my,
31:16
my,
31:17
my
31:17
being.
31:18
But
31:18
like
31:19
for,
31:20
for,
31:20
let's
31:20
say
31:20
somebody
31:21
comes
31:21
to
31:21
you
31:22
looking
31:22
for
31:23
help.
31:23
That,
31:23
that,
31:24
that
31:24
they
31:24
have
31:24
reached
31:25
the
31:25
point
31:25
where
31:26
traditional
31:27
medicines
31:27
or
31:28
traditional
31:28
therapies
31:29
are
31:29
just
31:29
not,
31:30
they're,
31:30
it's
31:30
not,
31:31
it's
31:31
not
31:31
fixing
31:32
it
31:32
for
31:32
them.
31:32
It's
31:32
not,
31:33
it's
31:33
not
31:33
getting
31:33
them
31:34
to
31:34
the
31:34
point
31:34
where
31:34
they
31:34
can
31:34
be
31:35
self
31:35
sufficient.
31:36
If,
31:37
if,
31:38
if
31:38
they
31:38
came
31:39
to
31:39
you,
31:40
what's
31:41
one
31:41
of
31:41
the
31:41
first
31:41
approaches
31:42
that
31:42
you
31:42
give
31:42
them?
31:42
And
31:43
do
31:43
you
31:43
give
31:43
them
31:43
a
31:43
test?
31:44
Do
31:44
you
31:44
give
31:44
them,
31:45
do
31:45
you
31:45
have,
31:45
do,
31:45
do
31:46
you
31:46
walk
31:46
through?
31:47
Well,
31:48
I'll
31:48
let,
31:48
I'll
31:48
let
31:48
you
31:48
answer
31:49
instead,
31:49
instead
31:49
of
31:50
throwing
31:50
out
31:50
all
31:50
the
31:50
potentials
31:51
that
31:51
you
31:51
could
31:51
do.
31:52
And
31:52
now
31:52
I'm
31:52
running
31:52
your
31:53
company
31:53
for
31:54
a
31:54
5%
31:55
cover
31:55
charge.
31:56
Don't
31:56
let
31:56
them
31:57
do
31:57
it.
31:58
So
31:59
first,
31:59
I
32:00
think
32:00
that
32:01
my
32:02
challenge
32:02
for
32:02
you
32:02
is
32:03
to
32:03
expand,
32:03
expand
32:04
your
32:05
definition
32:05
of
32:06
magic.
32:06
And
32:07
I
32:07
think
32:07
a
32:08
lot
32:08
of
32:08
people
32:08
hear
32:09
the
32:09
term
32:09
magic
32:10
and
32:10
they,
32:11
they
32:11
think
32:12
of
32:12
kind
32:13
of
32:13
hokey
32:14
TV
32:15
shows
32:15
and
32:16
movies
32:16
and
32:17
books
32:18
and
32:19
magic.
32:20
When
32:20
I
32:20
talk
32:20
about
32:21
it,
32:21
it
32:22
does
32:22
have
32:22
a
32:22
scientific
32:23
basis
32:24
because
32:24
there's
32:24
a
32:25
lot
32:25
of
32:25
things
32:25
that
32:25
we
32:26
know
32:26
about
32:26
today
32:27
that
32:29
were
32:29
magic
32:29
in
32:30
the
32:30
past.
32:31
And
32:31
so
32:31
maybe
32:32
magic
32:32
is
32:33
just
32:33
science
32:34
that
32:34
we
32:34
don't
32:34
quite
32:35
understand.
32:36
Especially
32:37
when
32:37
you're
32:37
looking
32:38
at
32:38
it
32:38
at
32:38
a
32:38
quantum
32:39
level
32:40
of
32:40
how
32:41
the
32:41
world
32:42
interacts
32:42
with
32:43
each
32:43
other
32:43
and
32:43
how
32:44
they
32:44
have
32:45
actually
32:45
done
32:46
experiments
32:46
where
32:47
speaking
32:48
to
32:48
things
32:48
like
32:49
speaking
32:49
to
32:49
plants
32:50
nicely
32:51
makes
32:52
it
32:52
grow
32:52
better
32:52
and
32:53
speaking
32:53
to
32:53
it
32:54
in
32:55
a
32:55
derogatory
32:56
way
32:56
has
32:56
made
32:56
it
32:56
to
32:57
not
32:57
live
32:58
as,
32:58
as
32:58
well.
32:59
Or
33:00
when
33:00
they're
33:00
doing
33:01
experiments
33:02
where
33:02
if
33:02
you're
33:02
not
33:03
watching
33:03
it,
33:04
the
33:05
molecule
33:05
or
33:06
atom
33:06
or
33:06
whatever
33:06
it
33:06
was
33:07
does
33:07
something
33:07
completely
33:08
different.
33:08
So
33:09
there's,
33:09
there's
33:09
a
33:10
consciousness
33:11
or
33:11
a
33:11
magic
33:13
to
33:13
it.
33:13
But
33:14
you
33:14
have
33:14
to
33:15
expand
33:15
your
33:15
definition
33:16
of
33:16
magic.
33:17
As
33:18
far
33:18
as
33:18
clients,
33:19
when
33:19
they
33:19
come
33:19
to
33:20
me,
33:21
I
33:21
don't
33:22
talk
33:22
about
33:22
magic
33:23
with
33:24
most
33:24
of
33:24
my
33:24
clients
33:24
unless
33:25
they
33:25
come
33:25
to
33:25
me
33:26
and
33:26
they
33:26
say
33:27
I'm
33:27
pagan
33:27
and
33:27
I
33:28
want
33:28
this
33:28
to
33:28
be
33:29
on
33:29
a
33:29
more
33:30
magical
33:30
level.
33:31
In
33:31
my
33:32
mind,
33:32
I
33:32
know
33:33
what
33:33
is
33:33
happening
33:34
is
33:34
alchemy,
33:35
magical
33:36
alchemy,
33:36
spiritual
33:37
alchemy,
33:38
whatever
33:38
you
33:38
want
33:38
to
33:38
call
33:38
it.
33:39
But
33:40
I
33:40
will
33:40
just
33:41
treat
33:41
them
33:42
with
33:43
respect.
33:43
I
33:44
will
33:44
see
33:44
them
33:45
where
33:45
they
33:45
are
33:45
at,
33:46
I
33:46
will
33:46
ask
33:46
them
33:47
questions.
33:48
I
33:48
have
33:48
a
33:48
whole
33:48
intake
33:49
form
33:49
where
33:49
they
33:50
talk
33:50
about
33:50
what's
33:51
happened,
33:52
what
33:52
are
33:53
they
33:53
looking
33:53
to
33:53
get,
33:54
what
33:54
their
33:55
learning
33:55
style
33:56
is,
33:56
phobias.
33:57
Because
33:57
I
33:57
don't
33:57
want
33:58
to
33:58
do
33:58
anything
33:58
in
33:58
my
33:59
hypnosis
33:59
if
33:59
they're
33:59
afraid
34:00
of
34:00
something
34:01
like
34:01
I
34:01
don't
34:01
want
34:01
them
34:01
Floating
34:02
in
34:02
a
34:02
cloud
34:02
above
34:03
the
34:03
earth
34:03
if
34:03
they
34:04
have.
34:04
Have
34:04
a
34:04
fear
34:05
of
34:05
heights.
34:06
So
34:07
I
34:07
just
34:07
ask
34:07
questions
34:08
like
34:08
that.
34:09
And
34:09
then
34:10
I
34:10
will
34:10
ask
34:12
questions
34:12
that
34:12
allow
34:13
them
34:13
to
34:13
talk
34:14
and
34:14
tell
34:14
me
34:14
exactly
34:15
what
34:15
they
34:15
want
34:15
to
34:15
get
34:16
from
34:16
it
34:16
so
34:17
that
34:17
I
34:17
can
34:17
use
34:17
their
34:18
language
34:18
when
34:19
I
34:19
do
34:19
a
34:19
hypnosis
34:20
session
34:20
with
34:20
them.
34:23
No,
34:24
And
34:24
I.
34:24
I
34:24
think
34:25
that
34:25
makes
34:25
a
34:25
lot
34:25
of
34:26
sense
34:26
because
34:26
I
34:26
don't
34:26
think
34:27
that
34:27
I.
34:27
And
34:28
I
34:28
could
34:28
be
34:28
wrong
34:28
just
34:28
based
34:29
on
34:29
reading
34:30
from
34:30
the
34:30
Internet
34:30
and,
34:31
you
34:32
know,
34:32
what's
34:32
out
34:32
here.
34:33
But
34:33
I
34:33
think
34:34
that
34:34
a
34:34
lot
34:34
of
34:35
what
34:35
you
34:35
do
34:36
as
34:36
far
34:37
as
34:39
the.
34:39
The
34:39
hypnosis
34:40
and
34:40
this
34:41
life
34:41
coach
34:42
and
34:42
all
34:42
of
34:42
that
34:43
isn't
34:44
defined
34:44
by
34:44
you
34:44
being
34:45
pagan
34:45
or
34:46
a
34:46
witch.
34:47
Obviously
34:48
your
34:48
personality
34:49
and
34:49
what
34:49
you
34:49
have
34:49
and
34:50
the
34:50
way
34:50
you
34:50
think
34:50
about
34:51
things
34:51
and
34:51
frame
34:51
them
34:51
up
34:51
in
34:51
your
34:52
own
34:52
mind
34:52
is.
34:52
But
34:53
the
34:53
way
34:54
that
34:54
you're
34:54
helping
34:54
people
34:55
on
34:55
their
34:55
journeys
34:56
and
34:56
to
34:56
heal
34:58
has
34:58
nothing
34:58
to
34:58
do
34:59
with
35:00
magic
35:01
or
35:02
with
35:02
you
35:02
being
35:02
a
35:03
witch.
35:03
It
35:03
has
35:03
to
35:03
do
35:04
with
35:04
the
35:04
training
35:05
that
35:05
you
35:05
put
35:05
in
35:05
to
35:05
be
35:05
able
35:06
to
35:06
tap
35:06
into,
35:08
I
35:08
guess,
35:08
subconscious.
35:09
Is
35:09
it
35:09
subconscious
35:10
conscious?
35:11
Absolutely.
35:12
So.
35:13
Which
35:13
I
35:14
think
35:14
is
35:14
incredibly
35:14
neat.
35:15
You
35:15
know,
35:15
and
35:16
Barrett
35:16
and
35:16
I
35:16
have
35:16
talked
35:17
about
35:17
it
35:17
before
35:17
because
35:17
he
35:18
thinks
35:18
that
35:18
he
35:18
wouldn't
35:18
be.
35:19
As
35:19
far
35:19
as
35:19
hypnosis
35:20
goes,
35:20
and
35:20
we're
35:20
gonna
35:20
go
35:20
a
35:20
little
35:21
off
35:21
topic
35:21
here.
35:21
I
35:21
think
35:22
he
35:22
thinks
35:22
he
35:22
wouldn't
35:23
be
35:23
susceptible
35:23
at
35:23
all
35:24
to.
35:24
Because
35:24
he,
35:25
you
35:25
know,
35:25
I'm
35:26
sure
35:26
you
35:26
can't
35:26
tell,
35:27
but
35:27
he's
35:28
full
35:29
of
35:29
himself.
35:32
You
35:32
know,
35:32
he's.
35:32
He's
35:33
serious
35:33
and
35:33
he's
35:34
stoic
35:34
and,
35:35
you
35:36
know,
35:37
factual
35:37
based
35:38
and
35:38
all
35:38
of
35:38
that.
35:38
And
35:39
we
35:39
talked
35:39
about
35:39
the
35:39
fact
35:40
that
35:40
I
35:40
feel
35:40
like
35:41
probably
35:42
I,
35:42
I'm
35:42
a
35:42
very
35:42
susceptible
35:43
person.
35:43
I'm
35:44
very
35:45
open
35:45
to
35:45
suggestion.
35:46
I
35:46
was
35:46
like,
35:46
I'd
35:46
probably
35:47
be
35:47
someone
35:47
who
35:47
could
35:48
be
35:48
hypnotized
35:48
pretty
35:48
easily,
35:49
Although
35:49
not
35:49
if
35:49
I
35:49
have
35:49
to
35:49
picture
35:50
myself
35:50
in
35:50
a
35:50
cloud
35:50
because
35:51
I
35:51
can't
35:51
picture
35:51
anything
35:53
so
35:53
well.
35:54
She
35:54
thinks
35:55
people
35:55
have
35:55
superpowers
35:56
too,
35:56
that
35:56
they
35:56
can
35:57
see
35:57
through
35:57
car
35:57
doors
35:58
and.
35:58
People
35:58
could
35:59
have
35:59
superpowers.
36:00
You
36:01
don't
36:01
know
36:01
is
36:02
what
36:02
I'm
36:02
saying
36:02
there.
36:04
I'm
36:04
just
36:04
saying
36:04
you
36:05
can't
36:05
totally
36:05
rule
36:06
it
36:06
out.
36:06
You
36:06
don't
36:06
know.
36:08
I
36:08
do
36:09
come
36:09
from
36:09
a
36:09
fairly
36:10
skeptical
36:10
place.
36:11
And
36:12
you
36:12
explain
36:13
the
36:13
science
36:14
behind
36:14
it,
36:14
because
36:14
you're
36:14
right
36:15
that
36:15
my.
36:16
My
36:16
wife
36:16
has
36:17
a
36:17
greenhouse
36:18
full
36:18
of
36:18
plants.
36:18
And
36:19
one
36:20
of
36:20
the
36:20
things
36:20
that
36:20
she
36:21
and
36:22
me
36:23
has
36:23
a
36:23
greenhouse
36:24
full
36:24
of
36:25
plants.
36:25
Like.
36:25
Like.
36:26
And
36:26
there
36:26
have
36:27
been
36:27
scientific
36:28
tests
36:28
done
36:29
where
36:29
people
36:30
have
36:30
either
36:30
played
36:31
music
36:31
for
36:32
their
36:32
plants
36:32
and
36:32
the.
36:33
And
36:33
the
36:33
plants
36:33
have
36:33
flourished
36:34
or
36:35
they
36:35
have.
36:35
They
36:36
have
36:36
had.
36:37
Had
36:37
very
36:38
kind,
36:39
friendly
36:39
Things
36:40
to
36:40
say
36:40
to
36:40
their
36:40
plants
36:40
as
36:41
they
36:41
walk
36:41
out.
36:41
I'm
36:41
sure
36:42
you
36:42
walk
36:42
into
36:42
your
36:42
greenhouse
36:43
and
36:43
you
36:43
say
36:43
good
36:43
morning
36:44
all
36:44
the
36:44
time.
36:44
Time.
36:45
I'm
36:45
going
36:45
to
36:45
start
36:45
talking
36:45
to
36:46
the
36:46
tomato
36:46
that
36:46
I'm
36:46
growing
36:47
for
36:47
you
36:47
in
36:47
a
36:47
very
36:47
mean
36:48
way,
36:48
though.
36:48
That's
36:48
fair.
36:49
You're
36:49
going
36:49
to
36:49
have
36:49
very
36:49
sour
36:50
tomatoes.
36:51
That
36:51
doesn't
36:51
sound
36:52
awful
36:52
to
36:53
me.
36:53
The
36:54
sour
36:54
tomato
36:54
kind
36:55
of
36:55
sounds
36:55
like
36:55
a
36:55
pretty
36:55
good
36:55
flavored
36:56
tomato.
36:56
Although
36:57
on
36:57
the
36:57
plant
36:57
thing,
36:58
there
36:58
is
36:58
an
36:58
episode
36:58
of
36:59
Radio
36:59
Lab
36:59
from
37:00
years
37:00
ago
37:00
where
37:01
they
37:01
talk
37:01
about
37:01
the
37:02
connectivity
37:02
of
37:02
plants
37:03
and
37:03
this
37:03
whole
37:03
thing,
37:04
it's
37:04
so
37:04
good.
37:05
So
37:05
any
37:05
listeners
37:05
who
37:06
are
37:06
listening,
37:06
go
37:06
check
37:06
out
37:06
that
37:06
episode
37:07
of
37:07
Radio
37:07
Lab.
37:07
Very
37:08
good.
37:09
There
37:09
are
37:10
tons
37:10
of
37:10
people
37:11
out
37:11
there
37:11
that
37:12
believe
37:12
that
37:12
they
37:13
can
37:13
manifest
37:14
the
37:14
things
37:15
that
37:15
they
37:15
want
37:15
in
37:16
their
37:16
life.
37:16
And
37:17
it,
37:18
there
37:18
are
37:19
documented
37:19
cases
37:20
where
37:20
it
37:20
works.
37:20
So
37:21
I,
37:21
even
37:21
as
37:22
a
37:22
skeptic,
37:22
I'm
37:23
not
37:23
a
37:23
skeptic
37:23
because
37:24
I
37:25
refuse
37:25
to
37:25
believe
37:26
it.
37:26
I
37:26
just,
37:26
I'm
37:27
a
37:27
skeptic
37:27
because
37:28
I
37:28
have
37:28
to
37:28
have
37:28
that
37:29
proof.
37:29
But
37:29
even
37:30
in
37:30
the
37:30
conversation
37:31
we've
37:31
had,
37:32
there
37:33
lines
37:33
up
37:34
the
37:34
proof
37:35
that
37:36
I
37:36
would
37:36
need.
37:38
So
37:38
I
37:39
also
37:39
lacks
37:39
whimsy.
37:40
I.
37:40
He
37:40
just
37:41
doesn't
37:41
want
37:41
the
37:42
joy
37:42
in
37:42
things.
37:43
Donald
37:43
Trump
37:44
has
37:44
killed
37:44
a
37:44
lot
37:44
of
37:44
my
37:45
whimsy
37:46
and
37:46
he
37:46
kills
37:46
it
37:47
every
37:47
day.
37:49
So
37:49
talking
37:50
about
37:50
the
37:51
hypnosis
37:52
part,
37:52
which
37:52
was
37:52
ultimately
37:53
what
37:53
led
37:54
me
37:54
to
37:54
you,
37:56
how,
37:57
how,
37:57
how
37:58
many
37:58
people
38:00
come
38:00
into
38:02
your,
38:02
I
38:03
guess,
38:03
sessions
38:04
with
38:04
you
38:05
with
38:06
this
38:06
preconceived
38:07
notion
38:07
about
38:08
what
38:08
hypnosis
38:09
is
38:09
to
38:09
them?
38:09
What
38:09
is
38:10
it
38:10
they
38:10
like,
38:10
what,
38:11
what
38:11
is
38:11
it
38:11
most
38:11
people
38:11
think
38:12
that
38:12
hypnosis
38:12
is?
38:13
When,
38:13
when
38:13
you
38:13
first
38:14
take
38:15
them
38:15
on.
38:15
As
38:15
a
38:15
client,
38:17
I
38:17
would
38:18
say
38:18
a
38:18
good
38:19
80%
38:21
really
38:22
have
38:22
no
38:22
idea.
38:23
They've
38:23
only
38:23
ever
38:24
seen
38:24
it
38:24
on
38:24
tv.
38:25
They're
38:25
wondering
38:26
if
38:26
they're
38:26
going
38:26
to
38:26
be
38:26
in
38:26
control.
38:28
And
38:28
I
38:28
always
38:29
tell
38:29
them,
38:30
I'm
38:30
not
38:31
going
38:31
to
38:31
make
38:31
you
38:31
cluck
38:31
like
38:32
a
38:32
chicken.
38:32
You're
38:32
not
38:33
going
38:33
to
38:33
get
38:33
up
38:33
and
38:34
dance.
38:35
Because
38:35
that's
38:35
what
38:36
they're
38:36
asking,
38:36
that's
38:37
what
38:37
they're
38:37
worried
38:37
about.
38:38
Stage
38:39
hip
38:40
hypnosis
38:40
is
38:41
a
38:41
very
38:41
special
38:42
thing.
38:42
And
38:43
they
38:43
have
38:43
been
38:43
trained
38:44
to
38:44
look
38:44
through
38:45
the
38:45
audience
38:46
and
38:46
find
38:46
the
38:47
most
38:47
acceptable
38:48
people.
38:49
And
38:49
so
38:49
those
38:50
are,
38:50
those
38:50
are
38:51
the
38:51
people
38:51
they
38:51
choose.
38:52
They
38:52
know
38:53
what
38:53
to
38:53
look
38:54
for.
38:55
So
38:55
that's
38:56
not
38:56
what
38:56
I'm
38:56
doing.
38:57
I
38:57
tell
38:57
people
38:57
they
38:58
are
38:58
in
38:58
control
38:59
completely.
39:00
Even
39:00
with
39:00
a
39:00
past
39:01
life
39:01
regression
39:01
or
39:01
an
39:02
age
39:02
regression,
39:02
which
39:02
is
39:03
longer
39:03
and
39:03
deeper.
39:05
I
39:05
have
39:05
had
39:05
a
39:06
client
39:06
say
39:07
that
39:07
they
39:07
needed
39:07
to
39:07
go
39:08
to
39:08
the
39:08
bathroom
39:08
in
39:08
the
39:08
middle.
39:09
So
39:10
you
39:10
are
39:10
always
39:11
in
39:11
control.
39:12
Some
39:12
people
39:12
go
39:13
deeper
39:13
than
39:13
others
39:14
in
39:14
My
39:15
regular
39:15
hypnosis,
39:16
even
39:16
if
39:16
you
39:16
fall
39:16
asleep,
39:17
it
39:17
still
39:17
works
39:18
because
39:18
it
39:18
works
39:18
on
39:19
the
39:19
subconscious,
39:20
and
39:20
the
39:20
subconscious
39:21
never
39:21
sleeps.
39:23
So
39:23
all
39:24
your
39:24
job
39:25
is
39:25
in
39:25
a
39:26
hypnosis
39:27
session
39:27
is
39:27
to
39:27
be
39:28
relaxed.
39:29
Whether
39:30
you
39:30
are
39:31
hearing
39:31
every,
39:31
you
39:32
know,
39:32
car
39:32
that
39:33
passes
39:33
outside
39:34
and
39:35
everything
39:35
going
39:35
on,
39:36
or
39:36
you
39:36
are
39:37
completely
39:37
under
39:38
and
39:38
don't
39:38
even
39:38
remember
39:39
that
39:39
it's
39:39
happened,
39:41
there's
39:41
still
39:41
healing
39:42
that
39:42
can
39:42
happen.
39:43
So
39:44
you
39:44
don't
39:44
have
39:44
to
39:44
be
39:45
completely
39:45
susceptible
39:46
in
39:47
order
39:47
for
39:47
it
39:47
to.
39:48
To
39:48
work
39:48
and
39:49
to.
39:49
And
39:49
to
39:49
be
39:49
good.
39:50
But
39:51
you
39:51
do
39:51
have
39:51
to
39:51
be
39:51
in
39:51
the
39:51
right
39:52
mindset.
39:52
Right?
39:53
Like,
39:53
so
39:53
you
39:53
can't
39:53
just
39:54
want
39:54
it.
39:54
Right.
39:55
Okay,
39:56
so.
39:56
And
39:57
you
39:57
know
39:57
the
39:57
old
39:58
TV
39:59
thing
39:59
with
39:59
the
40:00
stopwatch,
40:01
you
40:01
know,
40:01
you
40:01
were
40:01
getting
40:02
very
40:02
sleepy.
40:03
I
40:04
assume
40:05
maybe
40:05
you're
40:06
incorrectly,
40:07
but
40:07
I
40:07
assume
40:07
that's
40:07
not
40:07
how
40:07
it
40:08
actually
40:08
happens.
40:08
That
40:09
is
40:09
not
40:09
how
40:09
it
40:09
works.
40:10
And
40:10
those
40:11
types
40:11
of
40:11
things.
40:12
And
40:12
the
40:12
movie
40:13
get
40:13
out
40:13
has
40:14
done
40:14
the
40:14
worst
40:15
for
40:15
hypnosis,
40:16
really.
40:17
Just
40:18
all
40:18
the
40:18
things
40:19
that
40:19
are
40:19
in
40:19
media
40:20
and,
40:20
and
40:21
TV
40:21
shows
40:22
and
40:23
the
40:24
watch
40:24
going
40:25
back
40:25
and
40:25
forth
40:25
and
40:26
the
40:26
control,
40:27
all
40:28
that
40:28
just
40:28
really
40:29
kind
40:29
of
40:29
gives
40:29
a
40:29
bad
40:30
name
40:30
to
40:31
what
40:31
healing
40:32
hypnosis
40:32
really
40:33
is,
40:34
because
40:34
it's
40:34
not
40:34
like
40:35
that
40:35
at
40:35
all.
40:35
It's
40:36
more
40:36
like
40:36
meditation
40:37
than
40:37
anything.
40:38
And
40:38
in
40:39
a
40:39
meditation,
40:39
you
40:40
don't
40:40
lose
40:40
control,
40:41
you're
40:41
just
40:41
relaxed.
40:44
The
40:44
main
40:45
job
40:45
of
40:45
a
40:45
hypnosis
40:46
practitioner
40:47
who's
40:47
doing
40:47
hypnosis
40:48
on
40:48
someone
40:48
is
40:49
to
40:49
bypass
40:50
the
40:50
conscious
40:51
mind
40:51
in
40:51
whatever
40:52
degree
40:52
possible
40:53
in
40:54
order
40:54
to
40:55
speak
40:55
to
40:55
the
40:55
subconscious
40:56
mind.
40:57
And
40:58
like
40:58
I
40:58
said,
40:58
I
40:59
use
40:59
the
40:59
language
41:00
of
41:01
my
41:01
client
41:01
and
41:02
I
41:02
find
41:02
out
41:02
exactly
41:03
what
41:04
they
41:04
want
41:04
to
41:04
do.
41:05
I
41:05
had
41:05
a
41:06
client
41:06
this
41:06
morning
41:07
when
41:08
I
41:08
was,
41:08
when
41:08
I
41:08
was
41:08
at
41:09
the
41:09
office,
41:09
a
41:10
younger
41:10
client.
41:11
And
41:12
I
41:12
spoke
41:13
to
41:14
both
41:15
of
41:15
my.
41:15
My
41:16
client
41:16
and
41:16
their
41:17
parent
41:18
about
41:18
what
41:18
they
41:19
wanted
41:19
to
41:19
see
41:19
happen.
41:20
And
41:20
I
41:21
use
41:21
the
41:21
language
41:22
that
41:22
they
41:22
use
41:22
in
41:22
their
41:23
family
41:24
of
41:25
you
41:25
are
41:26
loved,
41:27
you
41:27
are
41:28
enough.
41:29
Those
41:29
types
41:30
of
41:30
things.
41:30
And
41:31
it
41:31
was
41:31
just
41:31
a
41:32
matter
41:32
of
41:33
a
41:33
gentle
41:33
meditation.
41:35
I
41:35
have
41:35
a
41:36
special
41:36
way
41:36
of
41:36
speaking.
41:37
It's
41:37
called
41:37
the
41:37
hypno
41:38
voice
41:38
that
41:38
I
41:38
was
41:39
taught
41:39
to
41:39
use
41:40
that
41:40
naturally
41:41
bypasses
41:42
that
41:42
conscious
41:43
mind.
41:44
And
41:45
you
41:45
just
41:45
relax
41:46
and
41:46
you
41:47
listen
41:47
to
41:47
me
41:47
speak
41:48
for
41:48
about
41:48
30
41:49
to
41:49
40
41:49
minutes.
41:49
And
41:50
then
41:51
amazing
41:51
things
41:52
happen.
41:55
When
41:56
I
41:56
get
41:56
us
41:56
a
41:56
sample
41:56
of.
41:56
A
41:57
hypno
41:57
voice,
41:57
I
41:58
was,
41:58
I
41:58
wanted
41:58
to.
41:59
I
41:59
know
42:00
I
42:00
was
42:00
like,
42:00
I
42:01
want
42:01
to
42:01
ask,
42:02
but
42:03
I
42:03
want
42:03
to
42:03
do
42:04
that.
42:04
Sure,
42:05
sure.
42:05
It
42:05
kind
42:05
of
42:05
sounds
42:06
like
42:07
a
42:07
lullaby.
42:07
At
42:08
some
42:08
points
42:08
it
42:08
might
42:08
sound
42:09
like
42:09
I'm
42:10
singing
42:11
a
42:11
little
42:11
bit.
42:11
That's
42:12
what
42:12
people
42:12
say
42:12
it
42:12
sounds
42:12
like.
42:13
I'll
42:13
give
42:13
you
42:13
an
42:13
example.
42:16
Just
42:16
relax.
42:18
Take
42:18
a
42:18
nice
42:18
Deep
42:19
breath
42:21
and
42:22
breathe
42:22
out,
42:23
exhaling.
42:24
Anything
42:25
that's
42:25
been
42:25
going
42:25
on
42:26
in
42:26
your
42:26
life
42:27
that's
42:28
struggle
42:30
or
42:30
tension
42:31
or
42:31
anxiety,
42:33
all
42:33
you
42:34
need
42:34
to
42:34
do
42:35
is
42:35
just
42:35
lay
42:36
back
42:36
and
42:37
relax.
42:38
Nobody
42:38
needs
42:39
anything
42:39
from
42:39
you
42:40
right
42:40
now.
42:41
Nobody
42:41
wants
42:41
anything.
42:42
This
42:42
is
42:42
a
42:43
safe
42:44
space
42:45
for
42:45
you
42:45
to
42:46
simply
42:46
relax.
42:49
Look
42:49
at
42:49
that.
42:50
You
42:50
know,
42:50
you
42:51
ever
42:51
go
42:51
to
42:51
yoga
42:51
class?
42:52
Because
42:52
that's
42:52
very
42:53
similar.
42:54
It's
42:54
sometimes.
42:55
Yeah,
42:56
like,
42:56
sometimes
42:57
in,
42:58
in
42:58
a
42:58
nice,
42:58
like
42:59
vinyasa
42:59
flow.
43:01
It's
43:01
the
43:01
same
43:01
kind
43:02
of
43:02
thing.
43:02
It
43:03
is
43:03
very
43:03
calming.
43:04
And
43:05
even
43:06
the
43:06
singing
43:07
was.
43:07
It's
43:07
not,
43:10
you
43:10
know,
43:10
because
43:11
in
43:11
my
43:12
head
43:12
I
43:12
kind
43:12
of
43:13
felt
43:13
as
43:13
though
43:15
there
43:15
was
43:16
with,
43:18
I
43:18
guess,
43:18
the
43:18
hypnotism
43:19
that
43:19
we
43:19
see
43:19
on
43:19
television
43:20
and
43:20
things
43:20
like
43:20
that,
43:20
that
43:20
there's
43:21
a
43:21
gimmick
43:21
behind
43:21
it.
43:23
And
43:23
if
43:24
there
43:24
isn't,
43:24
then
43:25
everyone
43:25
is
43:25
staged.
43:27
But
43:28
I
43:28
have
43:29
done
43:29
meditation
43:30
for
43:30
a
43:30
little
43:30
while.
43:30
I
43:31
did
43:31
transcendental
43:32
meditation,
43:33
and
43:33
that
43:33
was.
43:35
It
43:35
never
43:35
even
43:35
occurred
43:36
to
43:36
me.
43:36
But
43:36
you're
43:37
basically
43:37
putting
43:37
yourself
43:38
into
43:38
a
43:38
hypnotic
43:39
state
43:40
where,
43:42
again,
43:42
you're
43:42
in
43:42
complete
43:43
control,
43:43
but
43:45
you're
43:45
allowing
43:47
for
43:48
the
43:48
ailments
43:48
or
43:49
the
43:49
things
43:49
that
43:49
are
43:49
bothering
43:50
you
43:50
to
43:50
become
43:51
actual,
43:52
almost
43:53
physical
43:54
manifestations
43:55
that
43:55
you
43:55
can
43:55
push
43:56
out
43:56
and
43:56
away
43:56
from
43:57
yourself
43:57
and
43:57
allow
43:58
for.
43:59
And
44:00
allow
44:00
for
44:02
a
44:02
hole
44:03
to
44:03
basically
44:03
be
44:03
filled
44:04
by
44:04
something
44:04
that
44:05
is.
44:05
Is
44:06
more
44:07
towards
44:08
your
44:08
benefit
44:09
than.
44:09
Than
44:09
what
44:09
was
44:10
there.
44:11
So
44:11
I,
44:12
I,
44:12
you
44:12
know,
44:12
it's.
44:12
It's
44:13
not
44:13
necessarily
44:14
that
44:14
I.
44:14
That
44:15
I
44:15
was
44:15
skeptical
44:16
of
44:16
it.
44:16
It
44:16
was
44:16
just
44:17
that
44:17
I
44:17
had
44:17
to
44:17
figure
44:17
out
44:18
for.
44:18
For
44:19
you
44:19
to
44:19
push
44:20
me
44:20
in
44:20
the
44:20
direction
44:20
of
44:20
figuring
44:21
out,
44:21
you
44:22
know,
44:22
what
44:22
it
44:23
actually
44:23
has
44:24
means
44:24
in
44:24
the
44:25
experiences
44:25
that
44:25
I've
44:26
had.
44:26
So
44:26
that,
44:26
that's,
44:27
I
44:27
think
44:27
that's.
44:28
That's
44:28
fascinating.
44:30
Is
44:30
it
44:31
hard
44:31
to
44:31
do
44:31
the
44:31
voice
44:31
for
44:32
30,
44:32
40,
44:32
50
44:33
minutes?
44:33
No,
44:34
not
44:34
at
44:34
all.
44:35
I've
44:35
done
44:35
it
44:35
first
44:36
for
44:37
years
44:37
now,
44:38
and
44:38
I
44:38
will
44:39
just
44:39
naturally
44:39
go
44:39
into
44:40
it.
44:40
And
44:40
I
44:40
do
44:40
a
44:40
lot
44:40
of
44:41
meditations
44:41
as
44:41
well,
44:42
guided
44:42
meditations.
44:43
And
44:44
I
44:44
will
44:44
find
44:44
myself
44:45
using
44:46
my
44:46
voice
44:47
when
44:47
I
44:47
do
44:47
that
44:47
as
44:47
well.
44:48
And
44:48
so
44:48
I
44:48
have
44:48
to
44:49
pull
44:49
back
44:49
just
44:49
a
44:49
little
44:50
bit
44:50
because
44:50
I
44:50
don't
44:50
want
44:51
to
44:51
be
44:52
hypnotizing
44:52
someone
44:53
if
44:53
they've
44:53
only
44:54
said
44:54
that
44:54
they're
44:54
coming
44:55
to
44:55
my
44:55
full
44:55
moon
44:56
for
44:56
a
44:56
meditation,
44:57
you
44:57
know.
44:58
And
44:58
at
44:58
the
44:58
risk
44:58
of
44:59
sounding
44:59
totally
44:59
insane,
45:00
can
45:00
you
45:00
accidentally
45:01
hypnotize
45:01
yourself?
45:04
I.
45:05
I
45:05
wouldn't
45:06
say
45:06
accidentally,
45:07
but
45:07
there's
45:08
lots
45:08
that
45:08
you
45:09
can
45:09
do
45:09
for
45:09
self
45:09
hypnosis
45:11
and,
45:11
well,
45:13
if
45:13
you've
45:13
ever
45:14
been
45:14
driving
45:15
somewhere
45:16
and
45:17
you
45:17
end
45:17
up
45:18
at
45:18
your
45:19
destination
45:19
and
45:20
you
45:20
have
45:20
forgotten
45:21
a
45:21
little
45:21
bit
45:21
of
45:22
where
45:22
you've
45:22
been
45:23
going,
45:24
that
45:24
is
45:24
hypnosis.
45:26
I
45:26
have
45:26
done
45:26
that.
45:27
That's
45:27
hypnosis.
45:28
Yeah.
45:30
Just
45:30
totally
45:30
zone
45:31
out.
45:31
Yeah.
45:32
I
45:32
will
45:32
tell
45:32
a
45:32
story.
45:33
Like
45:35
there
45:36
have
45:36
been
45:36
times
45:37
where
45:37
we
45:37
have.
45:38
We
45:38
have
45:38
been
45:38
traveling
45:39
back
45:40
or
45:40
to
45:41
somewhere
45:42
where
45:42
I
45:43
have
45:43
zoned
45:43
out
45:44
completely,
45:44
where
45:44
I
45:45
don't.
45:45
There
45:45
are
45:46
parts
45:46
of
45:46
the
45:46
trip
45:46
that
45:47
I
45:47
don't
45:47
remember
45:48
the
45:49
road,
45:49
even
45:49
though
45:49
I
45:50
very
45:50
well
45:50
should
45:50
have.
45:51
And
45:51
I
45:51
know
45:51
that
45:51
I
45:51
was
45:51
in
45:52
control
45:52
of
45:53
the
45:53
vehicle
45:53
because
45:54
I
45:54
arrived
45:55
safely
45:56
and
45:56
there
45:56
was
45:57
no
45:57
screaming.
45:59
You
45:59
don't
45:59
remember?
45:59
Let's
46:00
just
46:00
say.
46:00
Let's
46:01
just
46:01
say
46:01
not,
46:02
not
46:02
from
46:02
the
46:02
people
46:02
that
46:03
weren't
46:03
supposed
46:03
to
46:03
be
46:03
screaming.
46:04
No.
46:04
Okay,
46:04
sorry.
46:05
But,
46:06
you
46:06
know,
46:06
it's.
46:07
But
46:08
I
46:08
think,
46:09
I
46:09
think
46:09
back
46:09
to
46:10
one
46:10
particular.
46:10
We
46:10
were
46:10
coming
46:11
back
46:11
from
46:11
a
46:11
camping
46:11
trip
46:11
and
46:12
we
46:12
had
46:12
to
46:12
leave
46:12
the
46:12
camping
46:13
trip
46:13
really
46:13
late
46:13
at
46:13
night
46:14
because
46:14
there
46:14
was
46:14
a.
46:15
There
46:15
was
46:15
a
46:15
tornado
46:16
warning
46:16
where
46:16
we
46:17
were.
46:17
And
46:18
this
46:18
was
46:18
before
46:19
cell
46:19
phones.
46:19
The.
46:20
We.
46:20
We
46:20
just
46:20
happened
46:21
to
46:21
have
46:21
the
46:21
radio
46:21
on
46:22
and
46:22
the
46:22
tornado
46:22
warning
46:23
and
46:23
they
46:23
named
46:24
the
46:24
valley
46:24
that
46:24
we
46:24
were
46:24
camping
46:25
in.
46:25
So
46:25
we
46:26
very
46:26
quickly
46:27
packed
46:27
up
46:27
or
46:27
that
46:27
we
46:28
were
46:28
in
46:28
the
46:28
path
46:28
of.
46:28
So
46:29
we
46:29
very
46:29
quickly
46:29
packed
46:30
up
46:30
our
46:30
stuff
46:30
and
46:31
we
46:31
got
46:31
out.
46:31
We
46:32
drove
46:32
out
46:32
of
46:32
that
46:32
valley
46:34
and
46:34
on
46:34
the
46:35
way
46:35
home.
46:35
But
46:36
it
46:36
was
46:36
very
46:36
late
46:36
at
46:36
night.
46:37
And
46:37
the
46:38
thing
46:38
that
46:38
I
46:38
remember
46:39
in
46:39
my
46:39
head,
46:40
I
46:40
think
46:41
being
46:41
what
46:41
put
46:42
me
46:42
into
46:42
whatever
46:43
state
46:43
I
46:44
was
46:44
in,
46:45
was
46:46
looking
46:47
in
46:47
the
46:47
rear
46:47
view
46:48
mirror
46:48
at
46:49
the
46:50
tar
46:51
lines,
46:51
the
46:51
repair
46:52
lines
46:52
on
46:52
the
46:52
road,
46:53
and
46:53
the
46:54
light
46:54
reflecting
46:54
off
46:55
of
46:55
those
46:55
and
46:55
just
46:56
continuing
46:56
to
46:56
look
46:57
in
46:57
the
46:57
rear
46:57
view
46:57
to
46:57
make
46:58
sure
46:58
that
46:58
the
46:58
guys,
46:59
the
46:59
friends
46:59
that
46:59
were
47:00
following
47:00
us,
47:01
that
47:01
they
47:01
were
47:01
still
47:02
behind
47:02
us,
47:02
successfully
47:03
staying
47:03
close.
47:04
But
47:05
I
47:05
think
47:06
back
47:06
to
47:06
those
47:06
lines
47:07
in
47:07
the
47:07
road
47:07
and
47:08
how
47:08
it
47:09
almost
47:09
had
47:09
a
47:10
hypnotic
47:10
effect.
47:11
And
47:12
we
47:12
got
47:13
home
47:13
and
47:14
one
47:15
of
47:15
the
47:15
things
47:15
I
47:15
definitely
47:15
told
47:16
my
47:16
brother,
47:16
I
47:16
said,
47:17
I
47:17
do
47:17
not
47:18
remember
47:18
the
47:18
drive
47:18
home.
47:19
I
47:19
don't
47:20
remember
47:20
any
47:20
point
47:20
of
47:21
it.
47:21
Can
47:21
you
47:22
tell
47:22
me,
47:22
did
47:22
we
47:22
re
47:23
abducted
47:23
by
47:23
aliens
47:24
or
47:24
something?
47:24
Like.
47:26
So
47:26
that
47:27
tells
47:27
you
47:27
can
47:28
be
47:28
hypnotized.
47:29
Oh,
47:29
well,
47:30
great.
47:32
But,
47:32
but
47:33
I.
47:33
I
47:33
will
47:34
say
47:34
this.
47:34
Is
47:35
that
47:35
from.
47:35
From
47:36
what
47:36
I've
47:36
been
47:36
getting
47:37
from
47:37
you
47:37
through
47:38
our
47:38
talk,
47:39
I
47:39
think
47:39
that
47:39
you
47:39
would
47:40
have
47:40
to
47:40
trust
47:41
the
47:41
person
47:42
so
47:43
deeply
47:44
in
47:44
order
47:44
to
47:44
give
47:45
up
47:45
the
47:45
control.
47:46
So
47:46
your
47:46
conscious
47:47
mind,
47:47
it's
47:47
not
47:48
that
47:48
you
47:48
can't
47:48
be
47:48
hypnotized.
47:49
It's
47:50
that
47:50
you
47:51
want
47:51
to
47:51
be
47:52
in
47:52
control
47:53
and
47:54
you
47:54
would
47:54
have
47:54
to
47:55
trust
47:55
the
47:55
person
47:56
in
47:57
order
47:57
to
47:57
give
47:58
up
47:58
that
47:58
much
47:58
control,
47:59
to
47:59
completely
48:00
go
48:00
under.
48:00
That's
48:01
fair.
48:01
And
48:01
I
48:02
think
48:02
that's
48:02
a
48:02
good
48:02
assessment.
48:02
So
48:03
you
48:03
think
48:03
that's
48:03
common,
48:04
though?
48:04
I
48:04
mean,
48:04
because
48:04
I
48:04
can't
48:05
imagine
48:05
that
48:05
most
48:05
people
48:05
just
48:06
know
48:06
a
48:06
hypnotist
48:07
and
48:07
can
48:07
be
48:07
like,
48:08
okay,
48:08
you
48:08
know,
48:08
I've
48:08
got
48:08
some
48:09
things
48:09
I
48:09
want
48:09
to
48:09
work
48:09
through.
48:10
And
48:10
here's
48:10
this
48:10
person
48:11
who
48:11
I
48:11
trust
48:11
implicitly
48:12
who
48:12
can
48:12
help
48:12
me
48:13
work
48:13
through
48:13
them.
48:13
I
48:13
feel
48:13
like
48:13
in
48:14
most
48:14
cases
48:14
you're
48:14
like,
48:14
hey,
48:15
I've
48:15
got
48:15
this,
48:16
this
48:16
trauma
48:16
that
48:16
I
48:16
need
48:16
to
48:17
work
48:17
through.
48:18
And
48:18
here's
48:19
this
48:19
person
48:19
who
48:19
I've
48:19
just
48:20
met
48:20
who
48:20
now
48:21
I
48:21
somehow
48:22
am
48:22
going
48:22
to
48:22
trust
48:23
with
48:23
me
48:23
and
48:23
my
48:24
mind.
48:24
And
48:26
that
48:26
feels
48:27
like
48:27
that
48:27
would
48:27
be
48:27
a
48:27
hard
48:27
thing
48:27
to
48:28
overcome.
48:28
Is
48:28
there
48:29
at
48:29
least
48:29
a
48:29
certificate
48:30
on
48:30
the
48:30
wall
48:30
that
48:30
I
48:31
can,
48:32
I
48:32
can,
48:32
I
48:32
can
48:32
hang,
48:33
I
48:33
can
48:33
hang
48:33
on
48:34
to
48:34
that
48:34
and
48:34
be
48:34
like,
48:35
yeah,
48:35
I
48:36
know
48:36
I
48:36
was
48:37
a
48:37
joke.
48:39
Well,
48:39
before
48:40
we
48:40
get.
48:40
Before
48:40
we
48:40
get
48:41
too
48:41
close
48:41
to
48:41
the
48:42
end
48:42
of
48:42
this,
48:42
I
48:43
want
48:43
to
48:43
make
48:43
sure
48:44
that,
48:44
that
48:44
if
48:45
anyone
48:45
listening
48:46
to
48:46
this
48:46
has
48:46
any
48:46
desire
48:47
to
48:47
potentially.
48:48
Are
48:48
you
48:48
taking
48:48
new
48:49
clients?
48:49
I
48:50
am.
48:50
Okay.
48:51
How
48:52
can
48:52
people
48:52
get
48:53
a
48:53
hold
48:53
of
48:53
you?
48:53
And
48:53
I'll
48:53
make
48:53
sure
48:54
to
48:54
include
48:54
it
48:54
in
48:54
the
48:54
show
48:55
notes,
48:55
but
48:55
how
48:55
can
48:55
people
48:56
get
48:56
a
48:56
hold
48:56
of
48:56
you
48:56
so
48:57
that
48:57
they
48:57
can
48:57
potentially
48:58
approach
48:58
you
48:59
about
48:59
being
48:59
a
48:59
client?
49:00
I
49:01
have
49:01
a
49:01
Facebook
49:01
page.
49:02
It's
49:02
called
49:02
three
49:02
rays
49:03
of
49:03
Light
49:04
and
49:04
it's
49:04
the
49:04
number
49:05
three.
49:06
And
49:06
then
49:06
I
49:06
have
49:06
a
49:06
website
49:07
as
49:07
well
49:07
that
49:07
goes.
49:08
You
49:08
can
49:08
book
49:09
straight
49:09
from
49:09
it.
49:09
You
49:09
can
49:10
find
49:10
out
49:10
all
49:10
information.
49:11
Three
49:11
rays
49:12
of
49:12
light
49:12
dot
49:12
org.
49:13
And
49:13
again,
49:13
that's
49:13
a
49:14
number
49:14
three.
49:15
Okay,
49:16
what's
49:16
the
49:16
significance
49:17
of
49:17
the
49:17
three
49:17
rays
49:17
of
49:17
light?
49:19
That
49:19
goes
49:19
back
49:19
to
49:20
my
49:20
druid
49:20
roots.
49:21
So
49:21
there
49:21
is
49:21
a
49:22
symbol
49:22
called
49:22
the
49:23
awen,
49:23
which
49:23
I
49:24
also
49:24
use
49:24
in
49:24
my
49:25
green
49:25
wild
49:25
stuff.
49:26
The
49:26
awen
49:27
is
49:27
a
49:27
symbol
49:28
of
49:28
three
49:28
dots
49:28
and
49:29
three
49:29
lines
49:30
coming
49:30
down.
49:31
And
49:31
if
49:31
you
49:31
are
49:32
describing
49:32
that,
49:32
you
49:33
would
49:33
describe
49:33
it
49:33
as
49:33
three
49:34
rays
49:34
of
49:34
light,
49:35
of
49:36
inspiration
49:37
and
49:37
that
49:37
sort
49:37
of
49:37
thing.
49:38
And
49:38
so
49:38
I
49:38
didn't
49:39
want
49:39
to
49:39
call
49:39
my
49:40
business
49:40
anything
49:41
to
49:41
do
49:41
with
49:41
Awan,
49:42
so
49:42
I
49:42
named
49:42
it
49:43
three
49:43
rays
49:43
of
49:43
Light.
49:44
As
49:44
a
49:44
description
49:44
of
49:45
the
49:45
Owen.
49:48
Awyn,
49:50
in
49:50
my
49:50
head,
49:51
I
49:51
wanted
49:51
to
49:51
say
49:52
Arwen
49:54
from
49:54
Lord
49:55
of
49:55
the
49:55
Rings
49:56
and
49:56
Eowyn
49:57
because
49:59
I
49:59
have
49:59
a.
50:02
Trying
50:02
to
50:02
think
50:02
of
50:02
the
50:03
word.
50:03
I
50:04
know
50:04
an
50:04
individual
50:05
named
50:05
Eowyn.
50:06
So
50:07
that
50:07
was
50:08
what
50:08
kept
50:08
playing
50:08
out
50:09
in
50:09
my
50:09
head
50:09
when
50:09
I
50:09
saw
50:10
Owen.
50:12
So
50:13
one
50:14
of
50:14
the
50:14
things
50:14
that
50:15
on
50:15
your
50:16
fact
50:16
sheet
50:17
which
50:17
you
50:17
provided,
50:17
which
50:18
thank
50:18
you,
50:18
by
50:18
the
50:18
way,
50:19
to
50:19
have
50:19
a
50:19
guest
50:20
provide
50:20
a
50:20
fact
50:20
sheet
50:21
is
50:21
fantastic.
50:23
Talking
50:23
to
50:23
you,
50:23
Bill
50:23
Kimmeler.
50:25
So
50:26
it
50:26
said
50:27
that
50:27
you're
50:27
on
50:27
the.
50:28
You're
50:28
on
50:28
the
50:28
board
50:28
of
50:28
directors
50:29
for
50:29
Interfaith
50:30
Partners
50:30
of
50:30
South
50:31
Carolina
50:31
as
50:31
the
50:31
pagan
50:32
faith
50:33
representative.
50:34
So.
50:34
Yes.
50:35
What
50:35
is
50:35
that
50:36
experience
50:36
like?
50:38
That
50:39
experience
50:39
was
50:40
very
50:40
scary
50:41
at
50:41
first.
50:41
And
50:42
again,
50:42
you
50:42
know,
50:43
making
50:43
reference
50:43
to
50:44
how
50:44
I
50:44
grew
50:44
up
50:45
and
50:45
how
50:45
kind
50:46
of
50:46
hated
50:47
anything
50:47
of
50:48
that
50:48
nature
50:49
was
50:49
to
50:50
have
50:50
gone
50:51
from
50:51
that.
50:52
And
50:52
my
50:52
husband
50:53
was
50:53
going
50:53
to
50:53
divorce
50:54
me
50:54
because
50:54
of
50:55
who
50:55
I
50:55
was
50:56
to
50:57
now
50:57
being
50:57
the
50:58
pagan
50:58
faith
50:58
representative
50:59
for
50:59
South
51:00
Carolina
51:00
and
51:01
going
51:01
around
51:01
and
51:01
meeting
51:01
all
51:02
these
51:02
groups
51:03
and
51:03
sitting
51:04
next
51:04
to
51:05
rabbis
51:06
and
51:08
nuns
51:08
and
51:09
pastors
51:10
and
51:10
all
51:10
these
51:10
different
51:11
people
51:11
and
51:12
having
51:12
an
51:13
equal
51:13
voice
51:14
is
51:14
incredible.
51:15
And
51:16
it
51:16
shows
51:17
me
51:17
that
51:18
South
51:18
Carolina
51:19
is
51:19
changing.
51:21
Maybe
51:21
not
51:21
as
51:21
fast
51:22
as
51:22
we
51:22
would
51:22
like
51:23
it
51:23
to
51:23
be,
51:23
to
51:23
be
51:24
inclusive,
51:25
but
51:25
I'm
51:25
extremely
51:26
interfaith.
51:28
I
51:28
think
51:28
that
51:29
everyone
51:29
should
51:29
have
51:29
a
51:30
right
51:30
to
51:31
practice
51:31
and
51:31
believe
51:32
what
51:32
they
51:32
want
51:32
as
51:32
long
51:32
as
51:33
it
51:33
is
51:33
not
51:33
harming
51:34
other
51:34
people.
51:35
So
51:35
it's
51:35
been
51:35
an
51:36
amazing
51:36
experience
51:37
and
51:37
I.
51:37
And
51:37
I
51:37
love
51:38
being
51:38
part
51:38
of
51:38
that
51:39
group.
51:40
You're
51:41
also
51:41
an
51:41
educator
51:42
teaching
51:43
at
51:43
the
51:43
Green
51:43
Wild
51:43
Mystical
51:44
Academy.
51:46
What
51:46
is
51:47
one
51:47
of
51:47
your
51:47
favorite
51:47
topics
51:48
to
51:48
teach
51:49
and
51:49
why?
51:51
One
51:51
of
51:51
my
51:52
favorite
51:52
ones
51:53
is
51:53
an
51:53
energetic
51:54
anatomy
51:55
course
51:55
where
51:56
we're
51:56
looking
51:56
at.
51:56
At
51:57
all
51:57
the
51:57
layers
51:58
of
51:58
your
51:58
aura
51:59
and
52:00
all
52:00
the
52:00
energy
52:02
chakras.
52:03
And
52:03
just
52:03
from
52:04
various
52:04
cultures,
52:05
we
52:05
look
52:05
at
52:05
this
52:05
whole
52:06
thing
52:06
of
52:06
what
52:06
cultures
52:07
believe
52:08
in
52:08
order
52:08
for
52:09
you
52:09
to
52:09
decide
52:10
how
52:10
to
52:10
work
52:10
with
52:10
your
52:11
own
52:11
energy
52:11
systems.
52:12
That's
52:12
one
52:12
of
52:13
my
52:13
favorite
52:13
ones.
52:15
What
52:15
is
52:15
the
52:16
age
52:16
range
52:16
on
52:18
the
52:19
people
52:19
that
52:20
are,
52:20
I
52:20
guess,
52:21
the
52:21
students?
52:22
We
52:23
have
52:23
a
52:23
children's
52:23
course.
52:24
It's
52:24
called
52:24
Walking
52:25
a
52:25
Pagan
52:25
Path
52:26
for
52:26
Kids.
52:27
So
52:27
we
52:27
have
52:28
kids,
52:28
parents
52:29
who
52:29
join
52:29
for
52:29
their
52:30
kids
52:30
to
52:30
do
52:30
that
52:30
all
52:31
the
52:31
way
52:31
up
52:31
to,
52:32
I
52:33
would
52:33
say,
52:33
maybe
52:34
80s.
52:35
So
52:35
anywhere.
52:36
Anyone.
52:38
I
52:39
will
52:39
admit,
52:39
I
52:40
think
52:40
that
52:40
South
52:41
Carolina,
52:41
definitely
52:42
South
52:43
Carolina,
52:43
the
52:43
country
52:44
as
52:44
a
52:44
whole.
52:44
I
52:44
mean,
52:45
I
52:45
see
52:45
the
52:46
statistics
52:46
that
52:47
acknowledge
52:47
that
52:47
atheism
52:49
is
52:50
the
52:51
growing.
52:52
And
52:53
it's
52:53
not
52:53
really
52:53
a
52:53
religion,
52:56
but
52:58
it's
52:59
the
52:59
growing
53:00
recognized
53:01
religion
53:02
in
53:02
the
53:03
country.
53:04
The
53:05
country
53:05
is
53:05
tending
53:06
to
53:06
move
53:06
away
53:06
from
53:07
this
53:07
idea
53:07
that
53:09
you
53:09
have
53:09
to
53:09
have
53:10
some
53:10
sort
53:10
of
53:10
an
53:10
organizational
53:11
structure
53:11
in
53:12
order
53:12
to
53:12
have
53:12
a
53:12
spirituality
53:13
or
53:14
to.
53:14
To
53:14
have
53:15
faith
53:15
in
53:16
the
53:16
universe.
53:18
And
53:19
it's
53:20
interesting
53:20
because
53:21
I
53:22
certainly
53:23
have
53:23
people
53:23
in
53:24
my
53:24
life
53:25
that
53:25
are
53:26
directly
53:27
influential
53:28
in
53:29
trying
53:29
to
53:30
constantly
53:31
push
53:31
back
53:33
the
53:33
idea
53:34
that
53:34
an
53:34
organized
53:35
religion,
53:35
whether
53:36
it's
53:36
Christianity
53:37
or
53:37
it's
53:37
Hinduism
53:39
or
53:39
Buddhism,
53:41
whatever,
53:42
that
53:43
you
53:43
have
53:43
to
53:43
have
53:43
that
53:44
structure
53:44
in
53:44
order
53:45
to
53:46
have
53:47
a
53:48
whole
53:48
life.
53:48
And
53:51
paganism,
53:54
it
53:54
almost
53:55
sounds
53:55
like
53:56
there
53:57
is
53:57
the
53:57
value
53:57
to
53:58
it
53:58
without
53:59
the
53:59
necessary
54:00
structure.
54:04
I'm
54:04
just
54:04
trying
54:04
to
54:04
interpret
54:05
it
54:05
in
54:06
a
54:06
way
54:06
that,
54:06
again,
54:07
I'm
54:07
trying
54:07
to
54:07
make
54:08
it
54:08
make
54:08
sense
54:08
in
54:08
my
54:09
very
54:09
analytical
54:10
mind.
54:12
So,
54:13
you
54:13
know,
54:14
like
54:14
I
54:14
said,
54:15
the
54:15
first
54:16
thing
54:16
that
54:16
I
54:16
thought
54:16
of
54:16
when
54:17
you
54:17
describe
54:17
what
54:17
paganism
54:18
was,
54:18
is
54:18
that
54:19
I
54:19
was
54:19
a
54:19
boy
54:19
Scout.
54:20
And
54:20
one
54:20
of
54:21
the
54:21
things
54:21
that
54:21
we
54:21
did
54:21
was
54:23
with
54:24
everything,
54:25
every
54:26
project,
54:28
every
54:29
camping
54:29
trip,
54:30
there
54:30
was
54:30
always
54:31
an
54:31
acknowledgment
54:32
of
54:32
being
54:32
thankful
54:33
for
54:34
the
54:35
fact
54:35
that
54:35
the
54:35
land
54:36
is
54:36
there
54:36
and
54:36
that
54:37
we
54:37
have
54:37
to
54:37
treat
54:38
it
54:38
with
54:38
the
54:38
utmost
54:39
respect
54:39
in
54:39
order
54:40
to
54:40
continue
54:40
to
54:40
be
54:41
able
54:41
to
54:41
use
54:41
it
54:41
at
54:42
the
54:42
grace
54:42
of
54:43
nature,
54:44
you
54:44
know?
54:45
Yeah,
54:45
that's
54:45
so
54:46
pagan.
54:48
The
54:49
Mormons
54:49
are
54:49
not
54:50
gonna,
54:50
The
54:50
Mormons
54:50
are
54:51
not
54:51
gonna
54:51
like
54:51
to
54:51
hear
54:51
that.
54:52
I'm
54:52
gonna
54:52
tell
54:52
you
54:52
right
54:52
now.
54:53
They're
54:53
not,
54:53
they're
54:53
not
54:54
into
54:54
that
54:54
nature
54:54
thing,
54:55
I
54:56
think.
54:56
I
54:56
bet
54:56
they
54:56
are
54:56
though.
54:57
I
54:57
think
54:57
that
54:58
nature
54:59
is
55:00
human
55:00
above
55:01
all
55:01
else,
55:01
you
55:02
know,
55:02
like.
55:02
Well,
55:03
not
55:03
above
55:03
all
55:03
nature's
55:04
nature,
55:04
but
55:04
like
55:05
everybody
55:06
has
55:07
some
55:07
sort
55:07
of
55:07
connection
55:08
to
55:08
nature.
55:08
I
55:08
mean,
55:09
the
55:09
vitamin
55:10
D
55:10
from
55:11
the
55:11
sun,
55:11
the,
55:12
you
55:12
know,
55:12
the
55:12
feeling
55:12
of
55:13
the
55:13
earth
55:13
beneath
55:13
your
55:13
feet,
55:14
like
55:15
there's.
55:15
I
55:16
don't
55:16
think
55:16
there's
55:16
not.
55:17
I
55:17
don't
55:17
think
55:17
it.
55:18
Regardless
55:18
of
55:18
religious,
55:19
regardless
55:19
of
55:20
religion
55:20
or
55:20
anything
55:21
else,
55:21
like
55:22
we're
55:22
all
55:23
connected
55:23
to
55:23
nature.
55:24
Yeah,
55:24
yeah.
55:25
I
55:25
mean,
55:25
and
55:26
this
55:26
one's
55:26
constantly
55:27
telling
55:27
me
55:27
how
55:27
desperate
55:28
she
55:28
is
55:28
to
55:28
get
55:28
outside.
55:29
Oh
55:29
my
55:29
God.
55:29
I
55:29
mean,
55:30
I
55:30
hate
55:30
this
55:30
time
55:30
of
55:31
year.
55:31
I'm
55:31
so
55:31
ready
55:31
for
55:31
spring.
55:32
Yeah,
55:33
I,
55:33
I'm
55:34
not
55:34
made
55:34
for
55:34
the
55:34
winter.
55:36
I
55:37
think
55:37
that
55:37
last
55:37
year
55:38
was
55:38
the
55:38
first
55:39
year
55:39
in
55:39
America
55:40
that
55:40
there
55:41
were
55:41
under
55:41
50%
55:42
of
55:43
people
55:43
in
55:43
churches.
55:44
Like
55:45
it
55:45
was
55:45
a
55:45
big
55:45
thing.
55:45
And
55:46
that
55:46
most
55:46
people
55:47
are
55:47
marking
55:48
spiritual
55:48
but
55:48
not
55:49
religious.
55:49
SBNR
55:50
I
55:50
guess
55:50
they're
55:51
calling
55:51
it.
55:52
And
55:52
that
55:52
is,
55:53
that
55:53
is
55:53
a
55:53
trend
55:54
that
55:54
is,
55:54
that
55:54
is
55:55
happening
55:56
across
55:57
Western.
55:58
Yeah,
55:58
Eastern
55:59
Asia.
55:59
China
56:00
is
56:00
seeing
56:00
a
56:00
very
56:00
significant
56:02
increase
56:02
in
56:03
the
56:03
number
56:03
of
56:03
people
56:03
that
56:04
don't
56:04
actively
56:04
participate
56:05
in
56:06
a
56:07
religion.
56:08
It's
56:08
crossing
56:09
Europe
56:09
with
56:10
the
56:10
same
56:10
statistical
56:12
acknowledgment
56:13
that
56:14
there
56:14
are
56:14
so
56:14
many
56:15
people
56:15
that
56:16
are
56:16
leaving
56:17
whatever
56:17
their
56:18
church
56:18
is,
56:19
whether,
56:19
you
56:19
know,
56:20
because
56:21
it's.
56:22
And
56:23
you
56:24
know,
56:24
not
56:24
to
56:24
offend
56:25
anyone,
56:26
that
56:26
is,
56:26
of
56:27
which,
56:28
you
56:28
know,
56:28
that's
56:28
not
56:28
my
56:29
typical.
56:29
I'm
56:29
perfectly
56:29
happy
56:30
with
56:30
offending
56:30
people
56:30
but
56:32
acknowledging
56:33
that
56:36
there
56:37
is
56:37
a
56:39
decline
56:40
in
56:41
what
56:42
is
56:42
considered
56:43
intelligence.
56:44
And
56:44
this
56:44
is
56:44
scientifically
56:45
proven
56:46
through
56:46
reports
56:47
and
56:47
testing
56:47
and
56:48
things
56:48
like
56:48
that.
56:48
But
56:48
people
56:49
that
56:49
attach
56:50
themselves
56:51
to
56:52
a
56:52
very
56:53
strong
56:54
faith
56:54
based
56:55
system
56:55
that
56:55
has
56:56
one
56:57
particular
56:57
person
56:58
in
56:58
the
56:58
sky
56:58
that's,
56:59
that
56:59
is
56:59
controlling
57:00
everything
57:01
around
57:01
them.
57:02
That,
57:02
that
57:03
when
57:04
they
57:04
move
57:04
themselves
57:05
away
57:05
from
57:06
that
57:06
attachment
57:07
that
57:07
they,
57:07
they
57:08
find,
57:08
they,
57:08
they
57:09
find
57:09
that
57:09
those
57:09
people
57:10
participate
57:11
in
57:11
things
57:12
or,
57:12
or
57:12
show
57:13
an
57:14
incline
57:15
or,
57:15
or
57:15
a
57:16
inclination
57:17
to
57:18
scientific
57:19
studies
57:20
and,
57:20
and
57:20
things
57:20
that
57:20
would
57:21
lead
57:21
you
57:21
to
57:21
believe
57:21
that
57:22
there
57:22
is
57:22
a
57:23
more
57:23
intell.
57:25
The
57:26
scientific
57:26
Method,
57:27
questioning,
57:28
using,
57:29
thinking.
57:31
They're
57:31
absolutely
57:32
brainwashed
57:32
because
57:32
I
57:33
was
57:33
even
57:34
as
57:34
a
57:34
child.
57:36
So
57:37
I
57:37
think
57:38
moving
57:38
away
57:38
from
57:39
this
57:40
one
57:41
God
57:41
sort
57:42
of
57:42
situation
57:42
is
57:43
probably
57:43
one
57:43
that
57:44
benefits.
57:44
And
57:44
again,
57:46
I
57:46
don't
57:47
want
57:47
anyone
57:47
to
57:47
think
57:47
that
57:47
I
57:48
have
57:48
any
57:48
judgments
57:48
towards
57:49
their
57:49
faith.
57:51
I
57:51
don't.
57:52
It
57:52
purely
57:53
my
57:53
choice
57:54
and
57:54
I
57:55
acknowledge
57:55
that
57:56
I
57:56
don't
57:57
have
57:57
the
57:57
ability
57:57
to
57:58
attach
57:58
myself
57:59
to
57:59
that
57:59
faith
57:59
based
58:00
system
58:01
because
58:01
I
58:01
have
58:01
too
58:01
many
58:02
questions
58:02
that
58:03
can't
58:03
be
58:03
answered
58:05
with,
58:05
with,
58:06
with
58:06
any
58:07
facts.
58:08
There's
58:08
no
58:08
provable,
58:09
there's
58:09
nothing
58:09
provable.
58:10
Do
58:10
I
58:10
believe
58:10
that
58:11
Jesus
58:11
Christ
58:11
existed?
58:12
I
58:12
absolutely
58:12
do.
58:15
Was
58:15
he
58:15
magical?
58:16
I
58:16
don't.
58:18
Not
58:18
in,
58:18
not
58:18
in
58:19
the,
58:19
you
58:19
know,
58:19
not
58:20
in
58:20
the
58:20
pick
58:20
any
58:21
card,
58:21
you
58:21
know,
58:21
sort
58:22
of
58:22
situation.
58:23
You
58:23
don't
58:23
know.
58:23
He
58:23
might
58:24
have
58:24
had
58:24
a
58:24
really
58:25
great
58:25
sleight
58:25
of
58:26
hand.
58:26
He
58:26
could
58:26
have.
58:27
He,
58:27
he
58:27
brought
58:28
Lazarus
58:28
back
58:28
from
58:28
the
58:29
dead.
58:30
So.
58:31
Well,
58:32
I,
58:32
I
58:32
don't,
58:32
I
58:33
don't
58:33
want
58:33
to
58:33
eat
58:33
up
58:33
too
58:33
much
58:34
of
58:34
your
58:34
time
58:34
and
58:34
we
58:34
really,
58:35
really
58:35
do
58:35
appreciate
58:35
you
58:36
coming
58:36
on
58:36
with
58:36
us.
58:36
Again,
58:37
everyone
58:38
needs
58:38
to
58:38
check
58:38
out.
58:39
If
58:39
you're
58:39
interested
58:39
in
58:39
becoming
58:40
a
58:40
client
58:40
or
58:40
you're
58:40
interested
58:41
in
58:41
just
58:41
looking
58:41
into
58:42
more
58:43
of
58:43
this,
58:43
you
58:43
can
58:43
check
58:44
out
58:44
the
58:44
three
58:44
rays
58:45
of
58:45
light
58:45
on
58:45
Facebook.
58:46
I
58:46
will
58:46
make
58:46
sure
58:46
that
58:46
there
58:47
are
58:47
links
58:47
in
58:47
the
58:47
show
58:47
notes
58:48
so
58:48
that
58:48
you
58:48
can
58:48
check
58:48
check
58:48
those
58:48
out.
58:50
Mela,
58:51
is
58:51
there
58:51
anything
58:52
else
58:52
that
58:52
you'd
58:52
like
58:52
to,
58:53
you'd
58:53
like
58:53
to
58:53
potentially
58:54
discuss
58:54
or
58:54
use
58:54
our
58:55
platform
58:55
for?
58:55
Because
58:57
I
58:57
am
58:58
extremely
58:58
intrigued
58:59
and
58:59
there's
58:59
a
59:00
possibility
59:00
I
59:00
may
59:01
see
59:02
if
59:03
a
59:03
client
59:03
ship
59:04
is
59:04
one
59:04
that
59:05
might
59:05
be
59:05
available
59:05
because
59:06
I
59:06
am
59:07
interested
59:07
in
59:08
potentially.
59:08
Like
59:09
I
59:09
said,
59:09
I've
59:09
done
59:09
transcendental
59:10
meditation.
59:10
I've
59:11
done
59:11
other
59:11
various
59:12
types
59:12
of
59:12
meditation
59:13
and
59:14
I've,
59:15
they've
59:15
not
59:15
ever
59:16
had
59:16
any
59:16
ill
59:16
effect.
59:18
I
59:18
think
59:18
that
59:18
I've,
59:18
I've
59:19
only
59:19
benefited
59:20
from
59:20
them.
59:21
But
59:22
any,
59:22
Is
59:22
there
59:23
anything
59:23
that
59:23
you'd
59:23
like
59:23
to
59:24
tell
59:24
our
59:24
listeners
59:25
before,
59:25
before
59:26
we
59:26
sign
59:26
off
59:26
tonight?
59:28
Any
59:29
hypnosis
59:29
that
59:30
you
59:30
get,
59:30
make
59:30
sure
59:31
you
59:31
trust
59:31
your
59:31
hypnosis
59:32
practitioner,
59:33
whether
59:33
it's
59:33
me
59:33
or
59:33
someone
59:34
else.
59:34
And
59:35
know
59:35
that
59:35
hypnosis
59:36
is
59:36
about
59:37
healing.
59:38
It
59:38
doesn't
59:38
matter
59:38
if
59:39
you're
59:39
going
59:40
to
59:40
stop
59:40
smoking
59:41
or
59:41
for
59:42
anxiety
59:42
or
59:43
if
59:43
you're
59:43
doing
59:43
a
59:43
past
59:43
life
59:44
regression
59:45
or
59:46
trying
59:46
to
59:46
do
59:46
mediumship
59:47
through
59:47
hypnosis
59:48
to
59:48
talk
59:48
to
59:49
your
59:49
loved
59:50
one
59:50
and
59:51
anything
59:51
in
59:51
between.
59:53
Everything
59:53
you
59:53
do
59:54
is
59:55
about
59:55
healing
59:56
and
59:56
you
59:56
don't
59:56
even
59:56
have
59:57
to
59:57
believe
59:57
in
59:57
anything
59:58
that
59:58
you're
59:58
doing.
59:58
You
59:59
don't
59:59
have
59:59
to
59:59
believe
59:59
there
1:00:00
are
1:00:00
past
1:00:00
lives
1:00:01
to
1:00:01
get
1:00:01
healing
1:00:02
from
1:00:02
a
1:00:02
past
1:00:02
life
1:00:02
regression.
1:00:03
All
1:00:03
you
1:00:04
have
1:00:04
to
1:00:04
believe
1:00:04
for
1:00:04
hypnosis
1:00:06
to
1:00:06
Work
1:00:06
is
1:00:07
that
1:00:07
your
1:00:08
subconscious
1:00:08
brain
1:00:09
is
1:00:09
powerful
1:00:10
enough
1:00:10
to
1:00:10
heal
1:00:11
you
1:00:11
if
1:00:11
you
1:00:11
tap
1:00:12
into
1:00:12
it.
1:00:13
All
1:00:14
right,
1:00:14
that's
1:00:15
fantastic.
1:00:16
Well,
1:00:16
Mela,
1:00:16
I
1:00:17
really
1:00:17
appreciate
1:00:17
you
1:00:18
coming
1:00:18
on
1:00:18
the
1:00:18
show.
1:00:18
And
1:00:19
like
1:00:19
I
1:00:19
said.
1:00:20
Oh,
1:00:21
well,
1:00:21
I
1:00:21
don't
1:00:21
have
1:00:21
them
1:00:22
with
1:00:22
me.
1:00:24
They
1:00:25
are
1:00:25
behind
1:00:25
me.
1:00:26
So,
1:00:26
Mela,
1:00:27
maybe
1:00:27
what
1:00:27
I'll
1:00:27
try
1:00:27
and
1:00:28
do
1:00:28
is
1:00:28
I'll
1:00:28
try
1:00:28
and
1:00:28
connect
1:00:28
with
1:00:29
you
1:00:29
another
1:00:29
time,
1:00:29
see
1:00:29
if
1:00:29
we
1:00:30
can
1:00:30
do
1:00:30
it.
1:00:30
So
1:00:30
we
1:00:30
do
1:00:30
a
1:00:30
thing
1:00:30
called
1:00:31
seven
1:00:31
questions.
1:00:32
And
1:00:33
honestly,
1:00:33
if
1:00:33
I
1:00:33
can
1:00:33
think.
1:00:34
Think
1:00:34
of
1:00:34
them,
1:00:35
then
1:00:35
I
1:00:35
will.
1:00:36
Okay,
1:00:36
so
1:00:37
I
1:00:37
think
1:00:37
I
1:00:37
can
1:00:37
think
1:00:38
of
1:00:38
a
1:00:38
few
1:00:38
of
1:00:38
them.
1:00:40
So
1:00:40
the
1:00:40
first
1:00:40
question
1:00:41
is,
1:00:41
what
1:00:41
was
1:00:41
the
1:00:42
last
1:00:42
thing
1:00:42
you
1:00:42
googled?
1:00:46
I'm
1:00:47
not
1:00:47
saying
1:00:47
that.
1:00:50
What
1:00:50
was
1:00:50
the
1:00:51
last.
1:00:51
It
1:00:51
was.
1:00:53
It
1:00:53
was
1:00:53
something
1:00:53
on
1:00:54
FetLife.
1:00:55
Okay.
1:00:56
All
1:00:56
right,
1:00:57
that.
1:00:57
No,
1:00:58
that's
1:00:58
close
1:00:58
enough.
1:00:59
We're
1:00:59
good
1:01:00
with
1:01:00
that.
1:01:00
Let
1:01:01
me.
1:01:01
Okay,
1:01:02
so
1:01:03
another.
1:01:03
Another
1:01:04
one
1:01:04
of
1:01:04
the
1:01:04
questions
1:01:04
is
1:01:05
if.
1:01:06
If
1:01:06
you.
1:01:06
So
1:01:07
we.
1:01:07
We
1:01:07
changed
1:01:07
this
1:01:08
one
1:01:08
a
1:01:08
little
1:01:08
bit.
1:01:08
It
1:01:08
used
1:01:09
to
1:01:09
be
1:01:09
if
1:01:09
your.
1:01:10
If
1:01:10
your
1:01:11
life
1:01:11
were
1:01:11
a
1:01:11
movie,
1:01:12
what
1:01:12
would
1:01:12
the
1:01:12
title
1:01:13
be?
1:01:13
But
1:01:13
we
1:01:13
changed
1:01:14
it
1:01:14
because
1:01:14
a
1:01:15
lot
1:01:15
of
1:01:15
people
1:01:15
associate
1:01:16
what,
1:01:17
their
1:01:17
potential
1:01:18
bio.
1:01:19
Biopic
1:01:20
of
1:01:20
them
1:01:21
with
1:01:21
the
1:01:22
opening
1:01:22
song.
1:01:23
So
1:01:23
if
1:01:23
your.
1:01:24
If
1:01:24
your
1:01:24
life
1:01:25
were
1:01:25
a
1:01:25
biopic,
1:01:26
what
1:01:26
would
1:01:26
the
1:01:27
opening
1:01:27
song
1:01:28
to
1:01:28
that
1:01:28
movie
1:01:29
be?
1:01:30
Can
1:01:30
I
1:01:31
cuss?
1:01:31
Yeah.
1:01:33
So
1:01:33
there's.
1:01:33
There's
1:01:34
a
1:01:34
song
1:01:34
by
1:01:34
Chinchilla
1:01:35
called
1:01:35
Motherfucking
1:01:36
diamond,
1:01:37
and
1:01:37
that's
1:01:37
my
1:01:37
song.
1:01:40
Say
1:01:41
it
1:01:41
one
1:01:41
more
1:01:41
time
1:01:41
because
1:01:42
it
1:01:42
cut
1:01:42
off
1:01:42
on
1:01:42
us.
1:01:44
It's
1:01:44
a
1:01:44
song
1:01:44
by
1:01:45
Chinchilla
1:01:45
called
1:01:45
Motherfucking
1:01:46
Diamond.
1:01:47
Okay.
1:01:48
Do
1:01:48
you
1:01:48
know
1:01:48
that's
1:01:49
my
1:01:49
song?
1:01:49
I
1:01:50
don't.
1:01:50
I'll
1:01:50
have
1:01:50
to.
1:01:50
I'll
1:01:51
have
1:01:51
to
1:01:51
look
1:01:51
it
1:01:51
up.
1:01:51
I'll
1:01:52
have
1:01:52
to
1:01:52
look
1:01:52
it
1:01:52
up.
1:01:53
All
1:01:53
right,
1:01:54
if
1:01:54
you
1:01:54
could
1:01:54
have.
1:01:55
If
1:01:55
you
1:01:55
could
1:01:55
have
1:01:55
dinner
1:01:56
with
1:01:56
any
1:01:56
three
1:01:56
people,
1:01:57
dead
1:01:57
or
1:01:57
alive,
1:01:59
who
1:01:59
would
1:01:59
that
1:01:59
be,
1:02:00
and
1:02:00
what
1:02:01
are
1:02:01
you
1:02:01
eating?
1:02:04
I
1:02:04
misunderstood
1:02:05
that
1:02:05
question
1:02:05
for
1:02:05
a
1:02:05
second.
1:02:06
I
1:02:06
thought
1:02:07
you
1:02:07
were.
1:02:07
You
1:02:07
said,
1:02:07
who
1:02:08
are
1:02:08
you
1:02:08
eating?
1:02:08
Yep,
1:02:09
100%.
1:02:10
I
1:02:10
was
1:02:10
like,
1:02:10
oh,
1:02:10
my
1:02:10
God.
1:02:12
Frida
1:02:13
Kahlo,
1:02:14
Einstein,
1:02:16
and
1:02:17
my
1:02:17
uncle
1:02:18
who
1:02:18
died
1:02:18
of
1:02:18
AIDS
1:02:19
in
1:02:19
96.
1:02:20
And
1:02:22
I
1:02:22
would
1:02:23
eat
1:02:23
Mediterranean
1:02:24
every
1:02:24
single
1:02:24
time.
1:02:25
Oh,
1:02:25
okay.
1:02:26
So
1:02:27
we're
1:02:27
talking
1:02:28
some
1:02:28
cheeses
1:02:29
and
1:02:30
some
1:02:30
fig.
1:02:31
What
1:02:31
is
1:02:31
it?
1:02:31
The
1:02:32
fig
1:02:32
leaves?
1:02:32
Stuffed
1:02:33
grape
1:02:33
leaves.
1:02:34
That's
1:02:34
it.
1:02:34
Baba
1:02:35
ganoush.
1:02:36
I
1:02:36
don't
1:02:36
care.
1:02:36
Okay,
1:02:37
all
1:02:37
right,
1:02:37
all
1:02:38
right,
1:02:38
I'm
1:02:38
with
1:02:38
it.
1:02:40
I'd
1:02:40
be
1:02:40
there
1:02:41
for
1:02:41
that.
1:02:41
All
1:02:42
right,
1:02:42
let's
1:02:42
see.
1:02:43
I'm
1:02:43
trying
1:02:43
to
1:02:43
think
1:02:44
of
1:02:44
some
1:02:44
of
1:02:44
the
1:02:44
other
1:02:45
questions,
1:02:45
and
1:02:45
I
1:02:46
think.
1:02:47
Oh,
1:02:48
let's
1:02:48
see.
1:02:49
What
1:02:49
is
1:02:50
your
1:02:50
least
1:02:50
favorite
1:02:51
candy
1:02:51
and
1:02:51
why?
1:02:54
It
1:02:54
would
1:02:54
be
1:02:55
this.
1:02:55
The
1:02:56
cinnamon.
1:02:57
Any
1:02:57
cinnamon
1:02:58
candy?
1:02:58
Because
1:02:59
I
1:02:59
have
1:02:59
a
1:03:00
schnitz.
1:03:00
Cinnamon
1:03:01
oh,
1:03:01
gosh.
1:03:02
Really?
1:03:02
Yeah.
1:03:02
Even
1:03:03
the
1:03:03
scent
1:03:03
of
1:03:03
it.
1:03:04
I've
1:03:04
been
1:03:04
in
1:03:04
the
1:03:04
hospital
1:03:05
for
1:03:05
anaphylaxis
1:03:06
because
1:03:06
of
1:03:06
the
1:03:06
scent
1:03:06
of
1:03:07
it.
1:03:07
So,
1:03:07
like,
1:03:08
in
1:03:08
the
1:03:08
fall,
1:03:08
you
1:03:08
can't
1:03:09
walk
1:03:09
into
1:03:09
basically
1:03:09
any
1:03:10
store,
1:03:10
huh?
1:03:11
No.
1:03:11
It's
1:03:12
awful.
1:03:12
The
1:03:12
brooms
1:03:13
and
1:03:13
all
1:03:13
that.
1:03:13
Yeah.
1:03:14
I've
1:03:14
been
1:03:14
in
1:03:14
the
1:03:14
old
1:03:15
parking
1:03:15
lot
1:03:15
on
1:03:16
my
1:03:16
knees,
1:03:17
coughing
1:03:18
my
1:03:19
eyes
1:03:19
out
1:03:19
because
1:03:20
I
1:03:20
walked
1:03:20
into
1:03:21
the
1:03:21
Aldi
1:03:21
and
1:03:21
went
1:03:22
by
1:03:22
the
1:03:22
brooms.
1:03:23
I
1:03:23
can't.
1:03:23
That
1:03:24
would
1:03:24
make
1:03:24
me
1:03:24
so
1:03:24
sad.
1:03:25
Like,
1:03:25
one
1:03:25
of
1:03:25
the
1:03:25
happiest
1:03:26
times
1:03:26
of
1:03:26
the
1:03:26
year
1:03:26
for
1:03:26
me
1:03:27
is
1:03:27
cinnamon
1:03:27
broomsies.
1:03:29
I
1:03:29
have,
1:03:30
like
1:03:30
six
1:03:30
of
1:03:30
them
1:03:30
in
1:03:30
my
1:03:31
house.
1:03:31
Like,
1:03:31
they're
1:03:31
everywhere.
1:03:32
I've
1:03:32
got
1:03:32
a
1:03:32
little
1:03:32
in
1:03:33
the
1:03:33
car,
1:03:34
so
1:03:35
I
1:03:35
would
1:03:35
be
1:03:35
sure
1:03:35
not
1:03:35
to
1:03:35
try
1:03:36
and
1:03:36
kill
1:03:36
you.
1:03:38
I
1:03:38
feel
1:03:39
like
1:03:39
I
1:03:39
already
1:03:39
know
1:03:39
the
1:03:39
answer
1:03:40
to
1:03:40
this
1:03:40
question,
1:03:40
but
1:03:40
if
1:03:40
you
1:03:41
were
1:03:41
to.
1:03:42
If
1:03:42
you
1:03:42
could
1:03:42
only
1:03:43
eat
1:03:43
one
1:03:43
thing
1:03:43
for
1:03:44
the
1:03:44
rest
1:03:44
of
1:03:44
your
1:03:44
life,
1:03:45
what
1:03:46
would
1:03:46
that
1:03:46
be?
1:03:48
Hummus.
1:03:49
Hummus.
1:03:50
Okay.
1:03:50
I,
1:03:51
I
1:03:51
figured
1:03:51
it
1:03:51
was
1:03:51
going
1:03:51
to
1:03:51
be
1:03:52
something
1:03:52
Mediterranean,
1:03:53
so.
1:03:53
So
1:03:53
a
1:03:53
little
1:03:54
smashed
1:03:54
chickpea
1:03:55
and,
1:03:55
and
1:03:55
some
1:03:56
olive
1:03:56
oil
1:03:56
and
1:03:56
whatnot.
1:03:57
That's
1:03:57
got
1:03:57
protein
1:03:58
and
1:03:58
everything
1:03:58
else.
1:03:59
Now.
1:03:59
That
1:03:59
does
1:03:59
sound
1:04:00
good.
1:04:00
Was
1:04:00
it,
1:04:01
Was
1:04:01
it.
1:04:01
Ron
1:04:01
White
1:04:01
said
1:04:02
that
1:04:02
told
1:04:02
the
1:04:02
joke.
1:04:02
He
1:04:03
said,
1:04:03
I
1:04:03
wouldn't
1:04:03
throw,
1:04:03
I
1:04:03
wouldn't
1:04:04
throw
1:04:04
a
1:04:04
chickpea
1:04:04
at
1:04:04
a
1:04:05
dog's
1:04:05
ass.
1:04:06
I
1:04:06
don't,
1:04:07
I
1:04:07
don't
1:04:07
remember
1:04:07
the
1:04:08
context
1:04:08
of
1:04:08
the
1:04:08
joke,
1:04:08
but
1:04:09
that's
1:04:09
the
1:04:09
punchline.
1:04:10
That's
1:04:10
all.
1:04:10
That
1:04:10
is
1:04:11
all
1:04:11
I
1:04:11
remember.
1:04:11
Remember.
1:04:12
That's
1:04:12
the
1:04:12
important
1:04:12
part.
1:04:13
I
1:04:13
guess,
1:04:14
sadly,
1:04:15
that's
1:04:15
almost
1:04:15
all
1:04:15
I
1:04:16
ever
1:04:16
remember
1:04:16
is
1:04:16
the
1:04:16
punchline.
1:04:17
I
1:04:17
will,
1:04:18
I,
1:04:19
I,
1:04:19
I,
1:04:20
I
1:04:20
do
1:04:20
this
1:04:20
awkward
1:04:21
thing
1:04:21
sometimes
1:04:21
in
1:04:21
meetings
1:04:22
where,
1:04:23
where
1:04:23
I
1:04:24
will
1:04:24
be
1:04:24
the
1:04:24
only
1:04:24
one
1:04:25
sitting
1:04:25
on
1:04:25
a
1:04:25
call
1:04:26
waiting
1:04:26
for
1:04:26
everyone
1:04:26
to
1:04:27
join.
1:04:27
And
1:04:27
as
1:04:27
soon
1:04:27
as
1:04:28
somebody
1:04:28
joins,
1:04:29
I
1:04:29
will
1:04:29
just
1:04:30
say
1:04:30
something
1:04:30
absurd.
1:04:31
And
1:04:31
that's
1:04:31
when
1:04:31
the
1:04:32
rabbi
1:04:32
punched
1:04:32
him
1:04:32
in
1:04:32
the
1:04:33
throat.
1:04:33
And
1:04:33
then
1:04:34
they
1:04:34
get
1:04:34
into
1:04:34
the
1:04:34
call
1:04:35
and
1:04:35
they're
1:04:35
like,
1:04:35
what?
1:04:36
And
1:04:36
I
1:04:36
said,
1:04:36
oh,
1:04:36
I
1:04:37
was,
1:04:37
I
1:04:37
was
1:04:37
telling
1:04:37
a
1:04:38
joke.
1:04:38
You
1:04:38
missed.
1:04:39
All
1:04:39
you
1:04:39
heard
1:04:40
was
1:04:40
the
1:04:40
punchline.
1:04:42
And
1:04:42
there's
1:04:43
no,
1:04:43
there's
1:04:43
no,
1:04:44
There
1:04:44
is
1:04:44
no
1:04:44
joke
1:04:45
where
1:04:45
the
1:04:45
punchline
1:04:45
is
1:04:46
the
1:04:46
rabbi
1:04:46
punched
1:04:47
the
1:04:47
guy
1:04:47
in
1:04:47
the
1:04:47
throat.
1:04:47
It
1:04:48
just.
1:04:48
There
1:04:48
isn't.
1:04:48
That
1:04:49
I
1:04:49
know
1:04:49
of,
1:04:49
but
1:04:49
I
1:04:50
could.
1:04:50
Are
1:04:50
you
1:04:50
going
1:04:50
to
1:04:50
look
1:04:50
it
1:04:50
up?
1:04:51
She's
1:04:51
going
1:04:51
to
1:04:51
look
1:04:51
up
1:04:52
to
1:04:52
see
1:04:52
if
1:04:52
there
1:04:52
is
1:04:52
a.
1:04:53
If
1:04:53
there's
1:04:53
a
1:04:53
joke
1:04:54
that
1:04:54
ends
1:04:54
in
1:04:54
the
1:04:54
punchline
1:04:55
is
1:04:55
the
1:04:55
rabbi
1:04:56
punches
1:04:56
the
1:04:57
guy
1:04:57
in
1:04:57
the
1:04:57
throat.
1:04:57
I
1:04:57
bet
1:04:58
that's
1:04:58
your
1:04:58
magic.
1:04:59
That
1:04:59
right
1:04:59
there
1:04:59
is
1:05:00
your
1:05:00
magic.
1:05:01
I
1:05:02
write
1:05:02
jokes
1:05:02
backwards.
1:05:05
You
1:05:05
are
1:05:06
creating
1:05:06
an
1:05:06
energy
1:05:07
in
1:05:07
all
1:05:07
the
1:05:07
groups
1:05:07
you're
1:05:08
in.
1:05:08
Yeah,
1:05:09
well,
1:05:09
that's
1:05:09
Fair.
1:05:09
That's
1:05:10
fair.
1:05:10
Is
1:05:11
there
1:05:11
not?
1:05:11
These
1:05:11
are
1:05:12
really
1:05:12
bad
1:05:12
articles.
1:05:13
Oh,
1:05:13
okay.
1:05:13
They're
1:05:14
depressing
1:05:14
me.
1:05:14
We're
1:05:15
gonna.
1:05:15
We're
1:05:15
gonna
1:05:15
move
1:05:15
on.
1:05:16
We're
1:05:16
gonna
1:05:16
move
1:05:16
on
1:05:16
for
1:05:17
the
1:05:17
rabbi
1:05:17
jokes
1:05:17
then.
1:05:17
Well,
1:05:18
Mel,
1:05:18
I
1:05:19
really
1:05:19
want
1:05:19
to
1:05:19
appreciate.
1:05:20
I.
1:05:20
I
1:05:21
sincerely
1:05:21
appreciate
1:05:22
you
1:05:22
coming
1:05:22
on
1:05:22
with
1:05:22
us
1:05:23
and
1:05:23
spending
1:05:23
this
1:05:23
time
1:05:24
with
1:05:24
us,
1:05:24
and
1:05:24
I
1:05:24
really
1:05:25
do
1:05:25
hope
1:05:25
that
1:05:26
you
1:05:26
continue
1:05:26
to
1:05:26
have
1:05:27
plenty
1:05:28
of
1:05:28
success
1:05:28
and
1:05:29
that
1:05:30
maybe
1:05:31
you
1:05:31
get
1:05:31
some
1:05:31
more
1:05:31
clients
1:05:31
out
1:05:31
of
1:05:32
this.
1:05:32
I
1:05:32
think
1:05:32
that
1:05:32
would
1:05:32
be
1:05:32
awesome
1:05:33
too.
1:05:33
That
1:05:33
would
1:05:33
be
1:05:33
great.
1:05:34
Do
1:05:34
you
1:05:35
mostly
1:05:35
meet
1:05:35
in
1:05:35
the
1:05:35
office
1:05:36
or
1:05:36
do
1:05:36
you
1:05:36
also
1:05:37
have
1:05:37
the
1:05:37
availability
1:05:38
for
1:05:38
people
1:05:38
that
1:05:38
would
1:05:38
potentially
1:05:39
want
1:05:39
to
1:05:39
meet
1:05:39
with
1:05:39
you
1:05:40
remotely?
1:05:41
I
1:05:41
could
1:05:41
do
1:05:41
it
1:05:42
virtual
1:05:42
and
1:05:42
I
1:05:43
also
1:05:43
right
1:05:44
now
1:05:45
meet
1:05:45
twice
1:05:46
a
1:05:46
month
1:05:46
at
1:05:47
an
1:05:47
office
1:05:47
over
1:05:48
in
1:05:48
Irmo
1:05:49
area.
1:05:49
Okay,
1:05:50
perfect.
1:05:51
Well,
1:05:51
Mel,
1:05:52
I
1:05:52
really
1:05:52
appreciate
1:05:52
you
1:05:53
coming
1:05:53
on
1:05:53
with
1:05:53
us,
1:05:53
so
1:05:53
I'm
1:05:53
going
1:05:53
to
1:05:54
go
1:05:54
ahead
1:05:54
and
1:05:54
wrap
1:05:54
up
1:05:54
the
1:05:54
show,
1:05:55
but
1:05:55
if
1:05:56
there's
1:05:56
ever
1:05:56
anything
1:05:56
that
1:05:56
we
1:05:57
can
1:05:57
do
1:05:57
for
1:05:57
you,
1:05:57
please
1:05:57
reach
1:05:58
out
1:05:58
and
1:05:58
let
1:05:58
me
1:05:58
know
1:05:58
and
1:05:59
we'll
1:05:59
certainly
1:06:00
do
1:06:00
that.
1:06:00
Thank
1:06:01
you.
1:06:01
Thank
1:06:01
you
1:06:01
very
1:06:01
much.
1:06:02
Wait
1:06:02
until
1:06:02
the
1:06:02
end
1:06:02
to
1:06:02
hit
1:06:02
the
1:06:03
mic.
1:06:03
She
1:06:04
me
1:06:04
did
1:06:05
really
1:06:05
good.
1:06:05
Usually
1:06:06
when
1:06:06
she's
1:06:06
recording
1:06:07
her
1:06:07
podcast,
1:06:07
it's
1:06:07
this
1:06:08
and
1:06:08
this
1:06:09
and
1:06:09
this.
1:06:10
I
1:06:10
talk
1:06:10
with
1:06:10
my
1:06:10
hands
1:06:11
and
1:06:11
mine
1:06:11
is
1:06:12
my
1:06:12
chair.
1:06:12
I'm
1:06:12
always
1:06:12
moving
1:06:13
my
1:06:13
chair.
1:06:14
And
1:06:15
not
1:06:15
to
1:06:15
steal
1:06:15
from
1:06:15
Barrett's
1:06:16
podcast,
1:06:16
but
1:06:17
I'm
1:06:17
probably
1:06:17
going
1:06:17
to
1:06:17
steal
1:06:18
your
1:06:18
contact
1:06:18
information,
1:06:19
reach
1:06:19
out
1:06:19
on
1:06:19
a
1:06:19
topic
1:06:20
for
1:06:20
mine.
1:06:20
Go
1:06:20
for
1:06:21
it.
1:06:21
I
1:06:21
will
1:06:22
pass.
1:06:22
I
1:06:22
will
1:06:22
pass
1:06:22
that
1:06:23
along
1:06:23
very
1:06:23
willingly.
1:06:24
So
1:06:25
again,
1:06:25
Pamela
1:06:26
Mela
1:06:27
Borowski,
1:06:28
thank
1:06:28
you
1:06:29
very
1:06:29
much.
1:06:29
She
1:06:29
did
1:06:30
it
1:06:30
again.
1:06:30
Thank
1:06:31
you
1:06:31
very
1:06:31
much
1:06:31
for
1:06:31
being
1:06:31
on
1:06:32
the
1:06:32
show
1:06:32
with
1:06:32
us.
1:06:32
I
1:06:32
sincerely
1:06:33
appreciate
1:06:33
it
1:06:33
and
1:06:34
again,
1:06:34
hopefully
1:06:35
I'll
1:06:35
hope
1:06:35
for
1:06:36
all
1:06:36
of
1:06:36
the
1:06:36
success
1:06:37
and
1:06:37
that
1:06:37
everyone
1:06:38
that
1:06:39
you
1:06:39
treat,
1:06:40
you
1:06:40
know,
1:06:40
has.
1:06:41
Has
1:06:41
all
1:06:41
their
1:06:42
success
1:06:42
too,
1:06:42
and
1:06:42
that
1:06:42
they.
1:06:43
They
1:06:43
come
1:06:43
out
1:06:43
very
1:06:43
well
1:06:44
healed.
1:06:44
So
1:06:45
thank
1:06:45
you
1:06:46
again.
1:06:46
That's
1:06:46
going
1:06:46
to
1:06:46
do
1:06:46
it
1:06:46
for
1:06:47
episode
1:06:47
number
1:06:47
250.
1:06:48
Thank
1:06:48
you
1:06:48
very
1:06:49
much,
1:06:49
Mela,
1:06:50
for
1:06:50
being
1:06:50
on.
1:06:50
Thank
1:06:50
you,
1:06:50
Ami,
1:06:51
for
1:06:51
being
1:06:51
here
1:06:51
to
1:06:52
assist
1:06:52
where
1:06:53
Zach
1:06:53
has
1:06:53
failed.
1:06:55
I'm
1:06:55
always
1:06:56
a
1:06:56
suitable,
1:06:57
better
1:06:58
replacement
1:06:58
for
1:06:58
Zach.
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