Latest / The BioHub - by Avetix / Adam Mendelsohn - CEO & Co-Founder Vivani Medical at BIO Boston 2025
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- 0:04So we're here in Boston at Bio for the Bio Hub, and I have Adam
- 0:08Mendelssohn with me, who's the CEO of Avani Medical.
- 0:12How are you? I'm doing great, Max, how are
- 0:13you? Yeah, it's.
- 0:14Great to have you. First of all, just give a bit of
- 0:17context on yourself who you are sure what you're doing here.
- 0:20Yeah. So I'm Adam Mendelsohn.
- 0:21I'm the CEO of Avani Medical. As you said, I'm here at Bio to
- 0:25meet with potential partners and other people in the sector and
- 0:29to give a presentation tomorrow morning in which I will be
- 0:32providing an outline of what we are doing at Avani Medical.
- 0:35Myself, I have a primarily a technical background.
- 0:38The company was a spin out from a bioengineering PhD program
- 0:41that I completed a number of years ago.
- 0:43And we've been working on a brand new drug delivery
- 0:46technology which enables an implant like this, a very small
- 0:51implant that goes under the skin to provide steady and continuous
- 0:55levels of medicine over many months to try to improve upon a
- 1:00real challenge in people not taking their medicine as
- 1:03prescribed for chronic diseases generally, starting initially
- 1:07with medications for type 2 diabetes and obesity.
- 1:11The GLP one class that everyone is very familiar with because of
- 1:14the success of Ozempic and Manjaro and Zepbound and some of
- 1:17the other brands that are out there.
- 1:19And we're really excited to potentially be able to offer a
- 1:22highly differentiated solution that we think can help people
- 1:26achieve the potential benefits that these molecules are capable
- 1:30of without having to worry about remembering to take a medicine
- 1:33on a frequent basis. Yeah.
- 1:35Just talk us through the journey so far, but how you started, how
- 1:38you've gotten to this point. Yeah.
- 1:40So we started out with business plan competitions during
- 1:45Graduate School and we ended up sharing first place in the UC
- 1:49Berkeley business plan competition a number of years
- 1:51ago. At a time when the idea was an
- 1:54exercise. We didn't think we were actually
- 1:57going to start a company, but we ended up, because of that
- 2:00competition, winning. We ended up competing in other
- 2:02competitions both domestically and internationally and won or
- 2:06placed in most of them. And got the confidence once we
- 2:09finished the degree to start a company.
- 2:12Initially in the basement of the bioengineering building on UC
- 2:15Berkeley campus with two desks and one bench and three people.
- 2:20And slowly but surely finding our way into a somewhat bigger
- 2:23incubator off campus and eventually into our own
- 2:26facility. And over time, building a team
- 2:29of seasoned executives with deep experience in all of the
- 2:33functional areas that are necessary for growing a biotech
- 2:36company. But it's been a long, rewarding
- 2:41and adventurous journey to get to get to get to this point.
- 2:45Yeah. And just in terms of the
- 2:47market's been tough at the moment, that journey won't have
- 2:50come without its challenges, I imagine.
- 2:53Sure, yeah. How do you deal like mindset
- 2:55wise, like going through those particular challenges, how do
- 2:58you deal with them? Maybe give you an example of a
- 3:00couple that that stick out. I mean, there are definitely
- 3:04have been times throughout the history of our company when I
- 3:07have wondered, you know, we don't have the result that we
- 3:09had hoped to achieve or you know, financing can be
- 3:13challenging. And if it we've been able to
- 3:17persevere, keep our head down, figure out what's the next best
- 3:22step to work on. And each time we've been able to
- 3:26succeed in that next step, which is unlocked the opportunity to
- 3:29continue to move forward. And it's just been like that one
- 3:34after the other, after the other, staying alive, continuing
- 3:36to make progress, continuing to persevere.
- 3:39Now we're in a very good position with where we are with
- 3:42our development and our team. I, I suspect that the future
- 3:46will bring similar challenges because we still have a ways to
- 3:49go before we have a product on the market and generating
- 3:51revenue and being profitable. But it does take this mindset of
- 3:56being committed, dedicated, and at the end of the day,
- 3:59reactionary, flexible, smart and able to navigate all the
- 4:03challenges that come your way and stay standing and continuing
- 4:06to make progress. What would that be your message
- 4:09to other people who struggle from the start of to to becoming
- 4:13more established? I, I so, so I think that there
- 4:16are two things that that one should think about. 1 is, does
- 4:20it still make sense if you take a fresh start, look at where you
- 4:24are based on what you've learned along the journey?
- 4:27Does moving forward still make sense with everything that's
- 4:31happened in the past being sunk cost?
- 4:33And then if it does, yes. Then two, being willing to
- 4:37persevere and continue to make progress and continue to move
- 4:40forward. There are very few examples of,
- 4:43of ventures of my friends and others who have started where
- 4:46what they set out to do initially just worked right.
- 4:50You set out to do something, then you get a more deep
- 4:52expertise in what you're working on.
- 4:55And, you know, you find a spot where hopefully you get the
- 4:59traction and you can move forward or you don't, right.
- 5:02So being honest with yourself along the way.
- 5:04But then if there is the next step forward, yeah, could
- 5:07continue to make the progress. And you know, fortune favors the
- 5:12bold. So you have to try and be
- 5:14willing to fail in order to have the chance to succeed.
- 5:16And that's certainly a mantra that I think I try to live by.
- 5:21The other one is I'd rather regret the things that I did
- 5:25instead of regretting the things that I did not do.
- 5:28Yeah, So do. And at least you tried and you
- 5:31had the opportunity and maybe you'll succeed.
- 5:33Yeah. No, I love that.
- 5:35And you've had some big milestones recently.
- 5:37So we've started a first clinical study, which has been a
- 5:40long journey to bring this brand new technology into humans.
- 5:43And we're excited to learn how the technology performs to gain
- 5:46insights into the future development of that program and
- 5:50future applications of the pipeline and hopefully confirm
- 5:54the safety and tolerability of the device.
- 5:56That'll be a big important first step in the clinical development
- 6:00phase of our company. In addition to that, we also
- 6:04have been generating really exciting new data with one of
- 6:07our pipeline programs, which is delivering semiglutide, which is
- 6:11the drug that's in Ozempic And we go over, we go V the big
- 6:14blockbuster products that are out there.
- 6:16We've now shown six months with a single implant of really
- 6:20compelling weight loss preclinically, and we're excited
- 6:23to chart the path for that program to move forward into the
- 6:27clinic and how else we can apply this technology to newer, latest
- 6:33and greatest molecules that are out there.
- 6:34We think there's a big opportunity to free people from
- 6:38the burden of remembering to continuously take their
- 6:40medication, which only about 50% of people do on a regular basis.
- 6:44The data is surprising to most people because maybe you and I
- 6:47probably take our medicine regularly, but there's a large
- 6:52segment of people that don't, and they suffer consequences
- 6:55from lost opportunity for efficacy.
- 6:58But also, in the case of GLP ones, when you stop taking your
- 7:02medicine, the drug levels go down, and when they come back
- 7:05up, that's when people experience the gastrointestinal
- 7:08side effects of the treatment. So we want to avoid lapses in
- 7:12exposure, avoid missed doses so that people can reap the
- 7:17benefits of these treatments without having to suffer
- 7:20unnecessary tolerability consequences that inevitably
- 7:25happened for the 50% of people that don't take their medicine
- 7:27regularly. So having this option, we think
- 7:29can be compelling, differentiated and attractive to
- 7:32really all the stakeholders that are involved with an
- 7:35individual's care. Yeah.
- 7:36And what, what's next do you guys like when you look at the
- 7:38big picture, what's what's? To come, yeah.
- 7:40So I mean we're the first trial is a is an early phase one
- 7:43trial, you know, studying the technology and it will be very
- 7:47important in our development path.
- 7:49But ultimately moving that into what could be an efficacy
- 7:53oriented study and finding collaborators with whom we can
- 7:58work to continue to advance our pipeline programs forward as
- 8:02well as finding new applications, new molecules.
- 8:05You know, GLP 1 is where we're starting because the opportunity
- 8:08is so compelling in our view. The clinical need is so is so
- 8:12dire, but the technology is a platform and we do think that it
- 8:17can be applied across a wide range of molecules and disease
- 8:20areas and we want to make it available as broadly as we
- 8:24possibly can. And that's as I look at the next
- 8:27two or three years where I anticipate spending more of our
- 8:30time both advancing the clinical program with GLP ones and
- 8:33looking at these other applications of the platform
- 8:35technology I love. That and I think it just I think
- 8:39people rarely do this exercise, but if you like sit and see
- 8:43where you put come from what you've achieved so far.
- 8:46I know that's sometimes a tough thing because you've got so far
- 8:48to go in a long journey, but like, you must be incredibly
- 8:52proud. When I take the time to take a
- 8:54step back and I get out of the the weeds and the details of the
- 8:57last challenge that we just overcame and you know, all of
- 9:00the stress that was associated with that, yes.
- 9:03When I take that time to take a step back and say, look where
- 9:05we've come, look at all that we've done in all these years,
- 9:07it really is incredible. But then you got to get back to
- 9:11work. You got to go back, dive down
- 9:13into the weeds again and overcome the next obstacles and
- 9:16pave the road for the future obstacles that are yet to come
- 9:19for the team to be able to succeed.
- 9:22But yes, you're right. Every once in a while, getting
- 9:24out of there and and, and taking a moment to get some
- 9:26perspective. Yeah.
- 9:27All right. This is.
- 9:28Beneficial All right, so thanks so much for coming on It's been.
- 9:30Absolutely. Thank you so much for having me.
- 9:32It's a great, great conversation.