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Patriots Unfiltered 7/11: Judon Contract Negotiations, Hard Knocks and Offseason Hot Topics · Patriots Unfiltered

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered.
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  Speaker 3: First edition of Patriots Unfiltered from our new studio. A
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  Speaker 3: little bit more of a relaxed look thinks you know
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  Speaker 3: that includes Matista.
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  Speaker 4: Trying to imagine Paul getting mad in a couch. I
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  Speaker 4: just can't see it. I need him to bang a table,
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  Speaker 4: so may maybe we'll just give him a piece of
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  Speaker 4: plyword so like he could just be uncomfortable not.
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  Speaker 3: To just harp on the jets. But you can definitely
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  Speaker 3: see that whole situation going south over there, you know,
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  Speaker 3: with that nut that quarterback.
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  Speaker 5: I haven't been that decided for a practice in a while.
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  Speaker 6: Are you legally allowed within fifty years of aj Brown?
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  Speaker 4: Or is that you still have to maintain?
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  Speaker 3: Is there a possibility that in our field house you
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  Speaker 3: could you could have some type of machine that could
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  Speaker 3: mimic weather conditions and I mean extreme.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know, it's it's like it's one of those
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  Speaker 4: things like playing in the cold. I just see you
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  Speaker 4: can either do it or you can't. I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: If you can. I hate it ready, I have to admit.
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  Speaker 3: Remember I broke every finger in one hand on a
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  Speaker 3: cold day.
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  Speaker 4: Like I can see why you don't like it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I hated it. I think it's a lot better
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  Speaker 3: than it used to be. Like, you know, back when
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  Speaker 3: I played it was we were barely out of leather helmets.
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  Speaker 7: Patriots Unfiltered. It is Thursday here at Jilles Stadium and
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  Speaker 3: what reason are we graced by your What accomplishment did
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  Speaker 3: you have that you want to be on the talk about?
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  Speaker 1: None?
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  Speaker 8: And I had a pretty pretty.
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  Speaker 9: I was followed Bryce around at the mass Amateur this week,
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  Speaker 9: met the family. Oh shout out, mister Berenger. Is a
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  Speaker 9: PU listener and a big Catch twenty two fan, so
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  Speaker 9: we're gonna get him a T shirt and wanted to
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  Speaker 9: give him a nice shout out today.
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  Speaker 8: But yeah, great to be here.
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  Speaker 9: I feel like I'm in like Plato's man cave with
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  Speaker 9: like the stones on the wall, and yeah, good stuff is.
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  Speaker 3: Here, Deuce is here, Matt's in the booth. Yeah Jordan
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  Speaker 3: is back operating the cameras shout out Jordan's yeah, sure,
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  Speaker 3: why not? Why not? So what do we got? I
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  Speaker 3: have a couple of things I want to talk about.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I got some things today too, But obviously we
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  Speaker 4: don't have to get right into it, but I just
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  Speaker 4: to tease it. We got the it's not Football Outsiders anymore,
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  Speaker 4: but the new Dvoa Patriots thing. So I took some
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  Speaker 4: nuggets conversation. So as we get in there.
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  Speaker 3: That's some good stuff that's hard for So we'll wait
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  Speaker 3: on that because if we start with that, we'll never
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  Speaker 3: get out of it.
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  Speaker 6: That's why I don't want to do it yet.
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  Speaker 3: But I think, you know, when it comes to like
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  Speaker 3: Patriots stuff that's out there, it's this whole hard knocks
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  Speaker 3: with the Giants and Drake May you know, We're getting
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  Speaker 3: a little shrapnel in a good way because it shows
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  Speaker 3: probably that the Giants were interested in them. You know,
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  Speaker 3: why else would they, you know, be talking to Elliott
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  Speaker 3: about the three spot. You know, you knew Jaden Daniels
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  Speaker 3: is going to go too so and then you know
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  Speaker 3: his acumen was on display. So that was something that
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  Speaker 3: I think Patriots fans are like, yes, see, we got
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  Speaker 3: the guy, We got the guy. But then dovetailing from
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  Speaker 3: that is there was kind of a debate on at
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  Speaker 3: least my timeline, about do coaches and analysts make football
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  Speaker 3: too complicated? Like is it really that complicated or is
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  Speaker 3: it that they put all this jargon around the mic
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  Speaker 3: and they make it complicated? So we talk about that.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I mean, I guess just to kick off the show,
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  Speaker 4: which I had watched the first episode, watched the second
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  Speaker 4: episode yesterday, and I was just impressed with Drake. May
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  Speaker 4: I mean again, you got a scouting report, you got
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  Speaker 4: to see behind the scenes with Caleb Williams, with Jaden Daniels,
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  Speaker 4: with Malik neighbors JJ McCarthy, So you got a kind
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  Speaker 4: of a little cross section and just a little bit
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  Speaker 4: that you saw on Drake.
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  Speaker 6: It was like you said it was you know a
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  Speaker 6: lot of recalling.
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  Speaker 4: Brian Dable was grilling those guys, and you know, they'd
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  Speaker 4: give him a whole play call and then they talked
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  Speaker 4: to him about something else. They what's that play call again,
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  Speaker 4: you know, and see if they can.
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  Speaker 6: Spit it back out.
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  Speaker 4: I just I thought Drake handled himself really well. I
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  Speaker 4: don't really get like everyone drawing the comparisons, like, yes,
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  Speaker 4: of course, like they might have been interested, but I
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  Speaker 4: think a lot of people were, like clearly they loved
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  Speaker 4: Drake May and they wanted Drake my by like maybabe.
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  Speaker 4: I think they just wanted to know what the deal is.
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  Speaker 5: But I think they just wanted a quarterback.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah, they did Caleb, they did Jaden like they just
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  Speaker 10: wanted a quarterback. And it just shows how much the
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  Speaker 10: Patriots liked him because they the thing is, they.
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  Speaker 3: Had a chance to take McCarthy didn't take him right.
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  Speaker 3: So if they wanted a quarterback, they wanted a quarterback
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  Speaker 3: and it probably was Drake May.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I mean some interesting takeaways though, of like when they
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  Speaker 4: were talking about the scouting report on Jaden Daniels of
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  Speaker 4: just like he's a leader, but he's not really vocal.
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  Speaker 4: You know, he's quiet guy, which you know he kind
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  Speaker 4: of comes off as but.
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  Speaker 6: You know, I just I like Dable.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, he's kind of got a Patriots background, so uh,
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  Speaker 4: you know, his intensity in those meetings. It's always interesting.
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  Speaker 3: To see how a guy performs under pressure, how quickly
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  Speaker 3: he can process and and think, because that's that's what
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  Speaker 3: being a quarterback in the NFL is all about. That's
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  Speaker 3: the big difference.
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  Speaker 4: So the one that cracked me up though, was I
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  Speaker 4: felt like Dabel had the same reaction that I had
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  Speaker 4: some Elik Neighbors that I don't know what show it was,
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  Speaker 4: but at some point I was like, I just watched
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  Speaker 4: what this Malik Naver's guy made. The joke I didn't
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  Speaker 4: have to say, but I'm like, this Naver's guy really
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  Speaker 4: like And that was what Dabele says. And the thing
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  Speaker 4: He's like, man, I just spent the whole day watching
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  Speaker 4: Malik Neighbors like that guy can play and good interview
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  Speaker 4: with him. You know, it's direct questions like you know,
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  Speaker 4: how do how do you feel if you don't get
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  Speaker 4: the ball in the first you know half, and and
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  Speaker 4: he's like, honestly, I'm not gonna be happy about it,
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  Speaker 4: like we have a game plan. I want to you know,
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  Speaker 4: I want targets, and you could tell that obviously they
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  Speaker 4: were in with that. With that, he was, you know,
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  Speaker 4: not trying to be like, oh, I'll just keep playing hard.
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  Speaker 4: He didn't give him what he thought they might want
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  Speaker 4: to hear.
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  Speaker 3: He's I think what he said. They would have said, Okay,
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  Speaker 3: that's a good answer. You know, they're not going to
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  Speaker 3: make him look bad.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so but you know, getting back to the complication,
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  Speaker 3: like yeah, when they you know, read a Linda, you know, like,
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  Speaker 3: what the hell does that make? It turns out read
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  Speaker 3: is right, Linda's left. Yeah, you know, so like on
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  Speaker 3: you learn what these things mean, it's like, oh, that's
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  Speaker 3: not that.
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  Speaker 4: Complic but it is learning another language, and like, well
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  Speaker 4: that's the film.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, it's just this a lot of the same thing
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  Speaker 9: with different terminology exactly exactly. And that's when most of
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  Speaker 9: the guys come in when they're having their first like
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  Speaker 9: media interviews, and they're like, what's it been like learning
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  Speaker 9: the playlist so often you hear, well, you know, like
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  Speaker 9: it's a lot of the same offense, but it's.
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  Speaker 8: Called different stuff. So it's just like make some memory
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  Speaker 8: flash cards, and.
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  Speaker 10: I didn't watch the episode like the flo episode. I
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  Speaker 10: saw the clips with Caleb Williams. Was he like, you
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  Speaker 10: have one play, you can only run one play? Build
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  Speaker 10: your plays. I like that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, he's kind of like what a coach would say, too,
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  Speaker 3: spread give me options if things break down, at least
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  Speaker 3: he can run.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: That was one of the questions into it, you know,
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  Speaker 4: drow up your favorite play, me anything, what's your favorite play?
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  Speaker 4: But those those questions are always so interesting. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: just a quick aside, I've this guy moved into town,
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  Speaker 4: into my town. It's someplace baseball with my son. Turns
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  Speaker 4: out that this guy was used to work with the Eagles.
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  Speaker 4: He worked with IMG Sports Academy down in Florida, did
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  Speaker 4: a lot of work preparing players for the Combine, specifically
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  Speaker 4: getting guys ready for the Wonder Lick Test where and
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  Speaker 4: then this is he's a doctor. He's he's working at
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  Speaker 4: BU now. But it's like, you know, I'm just talking
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  Speaker 4: with his dad. He just came from working with the
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  Speaker 4: Dodgers and U C l A in l A. And
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  Speaker 4: all of a sudden I uncover this whole thing where
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  Speaker 4: he I mean talk about like when we bring up
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  Speaker 4: random players from the last decade, like he's got all
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  Speaker 4: of them.
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  Speaker 6: All of them talking to him now. So he got out.
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  Speaker 4: Of the coaching aspect of it, and he's he's teaching
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  Speaker 4: at BU.
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  Speaker 3: But is this a potential guest for the show?
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  Speaker 6: I'm huge, I mean, it is so interesting to talk
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  Speaker 6: to him.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, just here's a quick, quick story which some
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  Speaker 4: Patriots fans will appreciate. And I'm sure you recall Fred
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  Speaker 4: that Carlos Dunlap remember that he and everybody was.
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  Speaker 3: Like, man, why did we.
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  Speaker 4: Take Carlos Dunlop instead of Jermaine Cunning, Like we took
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  Speaker 4: Jermaine Cunning. So the doc is telling me, he's like,
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  Speaker 4: he is an.
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  Speaker 6: Idiot, Like he is just like no, no.
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  Speaker 4: Dunlop, the guy that everybody wanted and certainly had, But
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  Speaker 4: he was just like, you know, just as an example
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  Speaker 4: of a guy that you know they would work with
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  Speaker 4: to get ready for the wonderlip test and and and
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  Speaker 4: it was one of many players that I remember having
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  Speaker 4: arguments with people over various times the Patriot should have
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  Speaker 4: drafted this guy. And then you hear him like he
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  Speaker 4: can barely tie his on shoes.
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  Speaker 6: All he can do is go get the quarterback.
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  Speaker 3: But those guys were from Florida. Yeah, and I remember
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  Speaker 3: at the time, I thought even urban Meyer was surprised
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  Speaker 3: that we took Jermaine Cunningham and that we didn't take
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  Speaker 3: that well.
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  Speaker 4: And Jermaine Coningham was was according to him, no no
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  Speaker 4: scholar either.
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  Speaker 3: But you know, it's just it's funny because you realize, brother,
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  Speaker 3: he worked at best.
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  Speaker 4: But how much goes on behind the scenes, like with
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  Speaker 4: those interviews at the combine, and these guys have so
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  Speaker 4: much going on, and it's easy to just look at
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  Speaker 4: a player when we're kind of amateur scoutish and you know, look,
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  Speaker 4: even if you look at his film, but you don't
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  Speaker 4: really realize, like, this guy's going to get here in
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  Speaker 4: that Belichick defense and his head is going to be spinning.
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  Speaker 4: So I'm sorry to take it a kind of aside,
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  Speaker 4: but it's been fascinating because he loves to talk, and
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  Speaker 4: so every baseball practice it's just like story time. But
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  Speaker 4: especially about the Wonder Lick where they talked about you
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  Speaker 4: don't want to do too well because if you do
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  Speaker 4: too well on the Wonder Lick, you come off as
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  Speaker 4: somebody who's going to question everything. So you want to
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  Speaker 4: be smart enough for smart enough but not too smart
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  Speaker 4: to question it all. So you know, maybe maybe I'll
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  Speaker 4: talk to him about coming in. What he's doing right
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  Speaker 4: now though, is he's talking a lot about the disconnect
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  Speaker 4: between guys like him who do sports specific training, injury
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  Speaker 4: rehab things like that at a high level with regular
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  Speaker 4: doctors who you know, you get amateur athletes who you know,
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  Speaker 4: like you get an injury Alex playing soccer and you
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  Speaker 4: go to your doctor. What do they know about soccer
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  Speaker 4: specific rehab and how to get you back on track
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  Speaker 4: if you you know, suffered an injury. So his kind
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  Speaker 4: of passion now is is getting more into the connection
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  Speaker 4: with doctors and athletic trainers and and the kind of position.
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  Speaker 6: So interesting guy kind.
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  Speaker 4: I'm sure I'll get some good nuggets over over the years.
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  Speaker 4: But he knows, I mean, he knows.
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  Speaker 3: If he's willing to talk. Yeah, you know, maybe without
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  Speaker 3: naming names, we could get some cool stories.
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  Speaker 8: Injury correspondent rights.
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  Speaker 4: And he's been to I mean, he's just got story.
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  Speaker 4: I mean another quick aside. Very close with Antonio Brown too,
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  Speaker 4: and still well trying not to be because he's kind
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  Speaker 4: of family, but you know, just is very connected over
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  Speaker 4: the last ten years, and you know, it's just like
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  Speaker 4: we had Taylor Price, like he'll bring him up, you know,
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  Speaker 4: like all those kind of random players.
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  Speaker 6: So it's been interesting.
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  Speaker 4: But a little bit of I told him because he
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  Speaker 4: tells me how much he loves preparing athletes for the
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  Speaker 4: Combine and you know, getting guys ready and what a
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  Speaker 4: passion it was.
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  Speaker 6: And now you get to see behind the scenes.
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  Speaker 4: Of those questions and what really goes on when they
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  Speaker 4: get under the hood of all these you know, high
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  Speaker 4: ranking players.
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  Speaker 10: Another cool part of the show with the Combine was
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  Speaker 10: it just it shows how casual some of the combos are.
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  Speaker 10: Like they're in the Giants Suite, I do' on the
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  Speaker 10: GM Joe Shane Shane and he's like, I just gotta
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  Speaker 10: go talk to the Patriots real quick, and he just
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  Speaker 10: like walks over. He's like, oh, can I just like
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  Speaker 10: talk to you for a second. I'm like, it's like
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  Speaker 10: that's all it takes, like just like knock on the door.
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  Speaker 10: I felt like it would be a bit more formal,
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  Speaker 10: but so like if you're thinking of anything, like just
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  Speaker 10: just be sure.
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  Speaker 3: To text us, Like, but isn't that kind of weird? Though,
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  Speaker 3: so like you're Elliott Wolf and all of a sudden,
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  Speaker 3: the GM for the Giants come over, but there's cameras, yes, conversation.
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  Speaker 5: He's like like the players like, by the way, I'm.
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  Speaker 8: Miked up, Like just they tell each other.
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  Speaker 10: It's also just funny because like it shows but it
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  Speaker 10: shows the Patriots from like across the field, and it
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  Speaker 10: shows the Giants GM going in and then like all
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  Speaker 10: the other Patriots coaches like, oh here he goes like
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  Speaker 10: trying to.
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  Speaker 6: But again, like so much of that stuff, like it
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  Speaker 6: just relates, like when they're.
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  Speaker 4: Talking about Saquon and like the value of running backs
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  Speaker 4: now and finding out about Daniel Jones. Those is the
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  Speaker 4: same stuff we talk about here. But they're like the
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  Speaker 4: ones with the actual power and the money and you
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  Speaker 4: know last night's episode there, you know they had the
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  Speaker 4: cap number come out and.
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  Speaker 6: You know, it's just it's the same kind of thing.
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  Speaker 6: It's just funny.
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  Speaker 4: It's like it makes you realize we kind of costplay
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  Speaker 4: what they do, but like they're the ones who really
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  Speaker 4: have to make the decision.
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  Speaker 8: We have the monopoly money.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, Like they're the ones who.
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  Speaker 4: Actually have to give the money out and decide, you know,
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  Speaker 4: We're like, we'll just give him twenty million, you know,
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  Speaker 4: well right right, yeah, So it's it's fun. I'm really
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  Speaker 4: enjoying it. Like I think Hard Knocks has gotten stale
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  Speaker 4: with training camp and you kind of get it, but
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  Speaker 4: this is all behind the.
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  Speaker 3: Scenes are going.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah, I'm very psyched training because they're doing a division
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  Speaker 10: this year too, so they're doing an in season team
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  Speaker 10: or is it no in season team, it's just a division,
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  Speaker 10: So I think that's it, Like that would be cool,
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  Speaker 10: just so you're not focused on one team.
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  Speaker 2: Though.
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  Speaker 4: The training camp just got repetitive, and it's the same
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  Speaker 4: kind of thing. It's guys you don't really know, trying
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  Speaker 4: to make the team and cut.
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  Speaker 10: Also, it's like especially work here, it's kind of it's
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  Speaker 10: not the sexiest practice ever. The you go to HBO
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  Speaker 10: and it's like boom, hard hitting. I'm like this, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 10: I know the nope, it's you're handing off to a
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  Speaker 10: running back and he's running sixty yards because they're not
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  Speaker 10: allowed to tackle.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, right, that was cool.
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  Speaker 4: They went to Elmos though in that in that episode,
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  Speaker 4: and it was like, it's.
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  Speaker 6: Just cool because I remember to watch this stuff.
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  Speaker 4: I just am you know, grateful that I do what
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  Speaker 4: I do, and then I'm you know, kind of in
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  Speaker 4: the mix of that stuff, and I'm like looking for
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  Speaker 4: myself and the thing, you know, like it's uh, it's
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  Speaker 4: just it's it's it's cool. I really like the behind
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  Speaker 4: the scenes, especially with a team like that, where it
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  Speaker 4: feels like they're a little bit at a crossroads and
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  Speaker 4: you know, you can feel that underlying tension of you know,
• 13:31
  Speaker 4: what is this year three? I think for them like
• 13:32
  Speaker 4: it's all right, you had a good first year, last
• 13:34
  Speaker 4: year was it down year? And now you got to
• 13:37
  Speaker 4: figure it out a You're gonna hitch all your wagons
• 13:38
  Speaker 4: to this guy Daniel Jones, who, as they point out,
• 13:41
  Speaker 4: had three significant injuries in the last two years. So
• 13:44
  Speaker 4: it's you know, it's it's it's interesting.
• 13:45
  Speaker 3: I like it.
• 13:46
  Speaker 4: I think it's good that they're switching it up.
• 13:48
  Speaker 3: Some other NFL news I don't know who it was,
• 13:52
  Speaker 3: but they came out with the list of the top
• 13:54
  Speaker 3: ten running backs in the NFL and Ramandre Stevenson wasn't
• 13:58
  Speaker 3: on it. So one of the stations, I think it
• 14:01
  Speaker 3: was all stations stas. Yeah, so they were like, oh,
• 14:06
  Speaker 3: that's a snub. You should be on it. Then they
• 14:07
  Speaker 3: went down the list and it's like, well, who are
• 14:09
  Speaker 3: you going to kick off of this list? Right? All
• 14:11
  Speaker 3: really good running backs?
• 14:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, and his contract was like paid him
• 14:14
  Speaker 4: as what the ninth or tenth Yeah, yeah, the.
• 14:17
  Speaker 3: Customer and he but he make honorable mention.
• 14:21
  Speaker 4: But I mean how many games he played last year
• 14:23
  Speaker 4: he was injured?
• 14:25
  Speaker 3: Well, they had like Derrick Henry in the top ten,
• 14:27
  Speaker 3: you know, well I know, but like so yeah, but yeah,
• 14:33
  Speaker 3: so I thought that was interesting.
• 14:35
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 14:35
  Speaker 4: I think it's it's a big year for Remander. I
• 14:38
  Speaker 4: mean it's you know, he's gonna be a focal point.
• 14:40
  Speaker 4: And I think everybody's hoping them, you know, be able
• 14:42
  Speaker 4: to get back into No, just didn't. I mean, we
• 14:44
  Speaker 4: can slowly dip it into the football, the dvo A stuff,
• 14:47
  Speaker 4: but that's a big part of you know, Elis.
• 14:49
  Speaker 3: But we are we are less than two weeks away
• 14:52
  Speaker 3: from the first public.
• 14:53
  Speaker 4: Their training camp. Yeah crazy, yeah, just like that.
• 14:57
  Speaker 3: Where does time go?
• 14:58
  Speaker 8: His top season, flew By especially had so much going on.
• 15:01
  Speaker 8: They didn't have one. Yeah for last week.
• 15:03
  Speaker 4: I feel like the last like three weeks, I've been
• 15:05
  Speaker 4: taking little pockets, you know, like I'll come out like
• 15:07
  Speaker 4: I do you know Tuesday, stiusly we had the show,
• 15:09
  Speaker 4: but like, I'll take it Friday, and you know, so
• 15:11
  Speaker 4: I feel like I've done a good job post Brady
• 15:13
  Speaker 4: Knight to like recharge the batteries, get out, you know,
• 15:16
  Speaker 4: break it up a little bit. But I don't know
• 15:18
  Speaker 4: with watching Hard Knocks and we'll starting to ramp up.
• 15:21
  Speaker 10: Also, yeah, I didn't watch it, but the Receiver show
• 15:24
  Speaker 10: came out started yesterday too, which I don't know if
• 15:26
  Speaker 10: I'm gonna watch because it's.
• 15:27
  Speaker 5: It's a bunch of what ifs. I watched the Boys Jefferson, like,
• 15:32
  Speaker 5: oh what could have been?
• 15:33
  Speaker 3: But you mentioned Brady. That reminded me the guy behind you,
• 15:37
  Speaker 3: Richard Seymour. There's rumors that he's looking to team up
• 15:42
  Speaker 3: with him in his ownership bid for the Raiders.
• 15:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah, which might take some of the sticking points with
• 15:46
  Speaker 4: Brady out of it. So yeah, I don't know, maybe
• 15:48
  Speaker 4: a Brady Night when we had the.
• 15:50
  Speaker 3: H Why do you say it takes some of the
• 15:52
  Speaker 3: sticking points. I don't know.
• 15:52
  Speaker 4: That was what PFT said, that the NFL might be
• 15:55
  Speaker 4: a little bit more amenable to I mean, I know
• 15:57
  Speaker 4: there were multiple issues with what the deal was going
• 15:59
  Speaker 4: to be with the Raid that it was kind of
• 16:00
  Speaker 4: a sweetheart deal and it was all going to be Brady.
• 16:02
  Speaker 4: But from what PFT said that with two guys involved,
• 16:06
  Speaker 4: that it might.
• 16:07
  Speaker 3: Make it work. But I thought that the sticking point
• 16:09
  Speaker 3: was the price that they were undercutting. It's so much
• 16:11
  Speaker 3: devaluing what his share would be worth that other owners
• 16:15
  Speaker 3: are like that, you can't do that.
• 16:17
  Speaker 6: Well, maybe they up the price and then it's two guys.
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: Guys, you know.
• 16:20
  Speaker 4: Maybe they didn't get into specifics as to why.
• 16:24
  Speaker 9: But I guess the other thing is it wouldn't just
• 16:26
  Speaker 9: be Brady alone though, would he would have like a
• 16:28
  Speaker 9: bunch of investors in it.
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: Well, he's not going to be You just have a
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: small right too much money.
• 16:33
  Speaker 9: I don't even know, but it's like I know, right,
• 16:35
  Speaker 9: I was looking at like what the Celtics are going
• 16:37
  Speaker 9: to probably go for, but you should just do that
• 16:39
  Speaker 9: and avoid all the conflict.
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: The problem is like, even if he only has one percent,
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: what should that one percent be worth? And the Raiders
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: made it like so cheap that they're like, okay, well
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: if you multiply now that one percent, you know, ninety
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: nine to get to one hundred, our value of our
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: team is too low and other owners were like, so
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: you can't do that, you.
• 17:02
  Speaker 10: Know, but what value does I'm confused why you're different
• 17:06
  Speaker 10: the team you didn't play?
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: Pay him what?
• 17:08
  Speaker 5: Why would you want to own part of a team
• 17:10
  Speaker 5: you didn't play for?
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: The whole thing is not well, doesn't he owns part
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: of an w n B A team.
• 17:16
  Speaker 10: But it's not like Vegas the cool play at least
• 17:19
  Speaker 10: be funny and like try to buy some of the
• 17:21
  Speaker 10: Jets are like the Bills.
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: Or something because it's in Vegas.
• 17:27
  Speaker 5: But it's just kind of weird.
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: I think you get the juice still, I mean you
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: think a little competitive juice, Like I mean as much
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: as I am a Patriot except the Raiders playing.
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: Remember, like even when the Brady was playing for the Patriots,
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: still wasn't there talks of him looking for a house
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: in Vegas, Like he and Giselle were looking for a
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: place in Vegas. And maybe that was, you know, because
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: he knew he was going to get into w n
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: B A and all that, and he's going to be
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: spending more time there after he retires. Maybe I don't know.
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: It seems like he pretty easy for him to find
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: a house in yes too, you know, like, oh, I know,
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: but yeah, I don't know. I mean maybe I could
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: never live there. I've never lived.
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: But the other thing with Brady being an owner is okay,
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: so now if you're going to be one hundred, you
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: know in with Fox, Like, how credible are you going
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: to be when you're calling a game with the Raiders
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: or do you does Fox say you can't call games
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: where the Raiders are involved? You know, but even if
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: you're calling a game with the Chargers or the Chiefs
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: team in the same division, Like, what's that like? So
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: it's weird, Like I don't think we've ever had an
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: announcer who's also at owner.
• 18:40
  Speaker 10: I'm also very intrigued to see what he's going to
• 18:42
  Speaker 10: be like calling calling games.
• 18:44
  Speaker 5: I never thought that was going to be his calling.
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: I thought it would be like a g I never
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: thought he'd go through with it, Like honestly, I thought
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: something would happen, you know, it would be a very
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: good reason why he wouldn't do it.
• 18:55
  Speaker 8: I just don't know why he would want to.
• 18:56
  Speaker 5: It's just it's I don't know, it's fill.
• 18:59
  Speaker 9: Yeah, but it's such a he can make three hundred
• 19:01
  Speaker 9: and fifty million in a million different ways.
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: Why's so much rather just be a partial owner of
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: a team and just kind of travel around and watch
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: that team.
• 19:08
  Speaker 6: I thought they brace that.
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: But but you don't get the money. You don't get the
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: money until you sell your share, you know. So it's
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: just you know, but if you.
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: Just invested in, would imagine he's got other things, And
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: I like, I don't know. For me at that point,
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: I wouldn't be about money. Maybe I think, I don't know,
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: I don't know what it's like.
• 19:23
  Speaker 9: Well, it seems like he's valuing his time with like
• 19:25
  Speaker 9: his family, and I wouldn't be getting into broadcasting.
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was.
• 19:30
  Speaker 5: Always like it's Tony Romo or like Kurt Warn't.
• 19:32
  Speaker 10: Like I don't know, it's just like there was a
• 19:34
  Speaker 10: certain level player and he's like the greatest of all time.
• 19:36
  Speaker 5: I feel he's yes, exactly like you.
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: Well, Montana tried it and he was terrible. Yeah, and
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: at that time Montana was the greatest quarterback at that time,
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: and he was just terrible at it. He was terrible
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: in the studio.
• 19:49
  Speaker 6: He was Why why was he terrible?
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: Was this was just so vanilla, like he didn't add
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: anything and he had no emotion and he just wasn't good.
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: And that's why people love Romo at first, because he
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: came into it with a lot of enthusiasm and passion,
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: you know, and he could tell that he really enjoyed
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: it the same way Madden did. You know, Madden wasn't
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: that great, but he had to you know, he did
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: it in a different way. He did it in his
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: own way. It was unique and you could tell he
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: loved it. He wasn't just you know, the robot from
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: Syracuse that you know did it the same way that
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: everybody else did. He had his own unique style of
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: doing it, just like Romo did. Well, Brady, I don't know, at.
• 20:30
  Speaker 10: Least he'll get the good He's not going to get
• 20:31
  Speaker 10: like one PM Browns versus Jets, like he's going to
• 20:34
  Speaker 10: get all the primetime games.
• 20:35
  Speaker 5: So maybe people be.
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: Just so, what's happening with Olsen is he's so I
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: thought he was a free I thought like he was
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: available to go to somewhere else.
• 20:45
  Speaker 10: No, I think next year, next year, But he bumped
• 20:48
  Speaker 10: down the number two. Yeah, I know, like, which is
• 20:51
  Speaker 10: crazy because he's one of the better. He's really good.
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: Well that's the other again, the fresh face, new voice
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: everybody's like, Okay, now he's the best.
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: He was, well, he was my favorite, Yeah for sure.
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: I mean he had that initial kind of Tony Romo
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: explosion last year, I would.
• 21:04
  Speaker 10: Say, and it's it's tough because now Al Michael is
• 21:06
  Speaker 10: on the Thursday game and it's they've all been duds.
• 21:08
  Speaker 5: Anywow.
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm curious so far because I think about what
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: you always used to say about Troy Brown, where it's
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: like for certain guys who just comes naturally to how
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: do they, I guess, in this case, observe and report
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: upon other players trying to do what they did. You know,
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: what's his angle going to be like there? And I mean,
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: I'm sure he's been watching enough football now that he's
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: kind of out of that player mindset and watching it
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: competitively and watching it more as an analyst. But we're
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: very curious how.
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: Romost thing when he first started besides the you know,
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: the the emotion, his thing was calling the play before, Yeah,
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: that was his kind of hit it.
• 21:45
  Speaker 5: But now he's whipping all the time.
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: But I think they told him to like ease up
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: on that because you know people are going to start
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: keeping score and you know you don't want that to
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: be a distraction. Was Tony right or wrong.
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: It wouldn't be. I don't know if it'd be great TV,
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: but I think what will be interesting to me would
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: be to hear Brady just spit out what he sees
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: when the quarterback comes.
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: From Well, that's the thing, that's what you want, like, okay,
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: just lay it out for me, right, so you know
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: from the booths here at the many emotions they're going
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: to be in cover two here.
• 22:19
  Speaker 11: Zero outslot right, three thirty five based throwback hip player.
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: There you go. So what are you seeing as a quarterback?
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: What should have happened on that play as opposed to
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: what did happen?
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: Because that was so much of what Josh told us
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: of Yeah that pre snap.
• 22:34
  Speaker 6: I mean he deciphered the whole thing.
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: He knows exactly where he's going with the ball ninety
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: nine percent of the time after that point. So you know,
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: for him to be able to kind of it just
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: it wouldn't work every single time that he did it,
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: but a couple of times it would be interesting just
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: to hear his processor fire out loud, just what what
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: do you see? Because I'm sure it would just be
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: an avalanche of observation.
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: How critical will he be? That's the other thing, Like
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: when a guy screws up, is he gotta call him out?
• 22:58
  Speaker 5: Is watching Zach Wilson play?
• 23:00
  Speaker 9: Right?
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: I think or as an owner of a team, I
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: might have that guy on my team some day, so
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: I can't be too critical.
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well see, and I'd love to hear like see
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: if that if he did that with me, he wouldn't
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: getting ball the rest of the game, you know, like
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: things that we know, but me.
• 23:13
  Speaker 10: I think, I think will be really cool. They're not
• 23:15
  Speaker 10: going to do obviously Manning cast, but do Brady and Manning.
• 23:17
  Speaker 10: That would be like just let them go. That's what
• 23:19
  Speaker 10: makes like, That's why I sometimes like watching the Manning
• 23:21
  Speaker 10: cast more because if a quarterback messes up, Manning freaks out,
• 23:24
  Speaker 10: says why he messed up, and says what he would
• 23:27
  Speaker 10: have done?
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: So big big year for Tom Brady.
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and then I guess else you said that. The
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: Belichick news just broke to that he's going to be
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: on inside the NFL.
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: Okay, so what station is that on these days?
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: I think I'm gonna look because.
• 23:39
  Speaker 12: We just got the is that the the c W
• 23:43
  Speaker 12: c W the kids R C ws the kids, right,
• 23:47
  Speaker 12: you know, he's got the demo for the twenty somethings there.
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: So he and that's on once a week. It's an
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: hour show. Yeah yeah, and he's going to be a
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: regular guest, a regular host, as the c W Network.
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: Today announced, the most successful coach in NFL history and
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: eight times Super Bowl champion Bill Belichick will join the
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: Emmy Award winning Inside the NFL for a second season
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: on the c W. Will sit alongside Ryan Clark, Chad Johnson, uh,
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: and Chris Long.
• 24:16
  Speaker 6: That's a pretty good group. Two of those guys.
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: John Steelers said he had the back and forth with No.
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: No, that was another that was another Steeler safety.
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: You're right.
• 24:25
  Speaker 6: I mean they did play a lot and that was
• 24:27
  Speaker 6: another Shmow guy.
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: It was a shmo you're talking about two thousand and
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: gotten the guy's space. Yeah, yeah, that was a different
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: I think it was like Smith something Smith.
• 24:36
  Speaker 5: I know, you're talking torched him.
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it was.
• 24:39
  Speaker 6: It was another Steelers safety.
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: But he you know, coach Chad Johnson, they've got kind
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: of and Chris Long.
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Notice they said the most successful coach, not the greatest.
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: I wonder like who chose those words? There's no doubt
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: he's the most successful.
• 24:56
  Speaker 10: Right, So Belichick's not coaching the US men's soccer team.
• 25:00
  Speaker 10: My pipe treatment they fired.
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: I think that it would have been great, and the
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: Paul would have been like, well, I mean, was a coordinator,
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: doesn't count, it's your boat name.
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: So he's keeping busy.
• 25:14
  Speaker 5: Yeah, very busy, to say the least.
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: Although I found I hear that he's finding out that
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: there's more to life than just football.
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: So I saw that clip from Greg Hill yesterday where
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: like Courtney Cox seems convinced that like, Yep, that's it, Yep,
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: he's gonna he's found a new perspective on life without
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: right now, that this this new flame has made him
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: reevaluate everything and there's.
• 25:34
  Speaker 6: More to life than football.
• 25:36
  Speaker 10: I'm like, he comes back, so he starts paying people
• 25:38
  Speaker 10: and signs all these free agents.
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: Well, do you think that he'll coach next year?
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: Yes, you do.
• 25:45
  Speaker 5: I think so too. I think there's a couple.
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: I still think he wants to, but I think now
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: there's a less chance, a little bit less chance than
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: it was three months ago.
• 25:58
  Speaker 6: Yeah, a little bit.
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: I just I still think there's gonna be a desperate
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: team that just says this changes.
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: Are they got to be close?
• 26:05
  Speaker 13: Like I feel like if the Cowboys have seems like
• 26:10
  Speaker 13: he's on or I don't know, but I mean even like,
• 26:13
  Speaker 13: I mean, how much the Bill want to go to
• 26:15
  Speaker 13: the Falcons.
• 26:16
  Speaker 6: It seemed like that was about to happen. And are
• 26:18
  Speaker 6: they close?
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: I don't know. I mean, I just wonder if it's
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: not necessarily about close for him, it's about the situation
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: of who it is, Like I don't.
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
• 26:30
  Speaker 9: It's just the love of the game. He would coach anyone, Yeah,
• 26:33
  Speaker 9: I think so.
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: I think so. But I think a team like I mean,
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: Washington made a lot of sense to me initially just
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: because it would change their whole kind of narrative and
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: all of a sudden, it just alters their franchise by
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: bringing in that coach.
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: Well, I think I think wherever he goes, he's going
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: to have to make it clear that I'm willing to
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: work within the structure that you have and I'm not
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: gonna turn over everything and redo everything, because that's that's
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: a lot and sometimes that actually sets your program back
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: a year or two. So if you know that he's
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: not going to be there for a long time. You
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: probably want that agreement that it's going to be plug
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: and play.
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: That's the first conversation with him is just, look, we
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: know you don't have a lot of time. How do
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: we get this done and how do we become the
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: contenders in two years?
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: Like that?
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: And then you ride it out two, three, four, as
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: long as it's able to maintain it. But you can't say,
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: here's my five year plan. He's gonna be like in
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: his eighties.
• 27:25
  Speaker 10: Spence, why the like, I think the Cowboys might be
• 27:28
  Speaker 10: a perfect fit, depending I don't know.
• 27:29
  Speaker 5: A Dak's situation.
• 27:30
  Speaker 10: Oh yeah, that would be perfect. I just don't know
• 27:32
  Speaker 10: how Jerry and Bill work. But if they both are
• 27:35
  Speaker 10: like at first, Parcels.
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: Is a good litmus test for that. He came down
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: for a couple of years. It was fine, But that's
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: the key. It's only going to be for a few years.
• 27:45
  Speaker 10: Yeah, you know, so it's like two years or you
• 27:48
  Speaker 10: go all kind of do what the Rams did a
• 27:50
  Speaker 10: couple of years ago, like let's go all in, and.
• 27:52
  Speaker 6: I mean they were talking about it.
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: Bill on a lot of was fourteen games away, like
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: fourteen games later.
• 27:58
  Speaker 5: I know you could get that clock.
• 28:01
  Speaker 6: I mean it's it's he's got but if you kind
• 28:03
  Speaker 6: of like you have.
• 28:04
  Speaker 8: A decent team two seasons.
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but if you just do it that way and
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: you win seven games a year, isn't that kind of
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: like forcing the record? It's kind of like a phony record.
• 28:12
  Speaker 5: I went out, I remember, and.
• 28:15
  Speaker 10: They wanted to keep the starts going, like, oh, maybe
• 28:17
  Speaker 10: he'll just go and take a knee. It's like this,
• 28:19
  Speaker 10: is that the same thing.
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: Cares about that record? I really don't I and I
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: hope he doesn't either.
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: Now you know, it's I don't know, but like he
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: just he did so many amazing, amazing accomplishments, Like if
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: you want to kind of limp to the end and
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: just get those last fourteens, somehow I'm kind of going,
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: I think.
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: It diminishes it. But anyway, all right, eight five five
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: pass five hundred is the ACE ticket hotline. Web radio
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: at Patriots dot com is the email address. Let's go
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: to Christian in l A. But who's in Italy?
• 28:47
  Speaker 6: Journal?
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: What's up? Christian child?
• 28:52
  Speaker 14: Guy?
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: So?
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: Why why are you in Italy calling this show?
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 28:59
  Speaker 14: It's like, well in Italy for a wedding in a
• 29:04
  Speaker 14: town called Parma, and I'm standing there and there's people
• 29:09
  Speaker 14: walking up to me in jerseys. And it turns out
• 29:12
  Speaker 14: because I got there the day after the Parma Panthers
• 29:16
  Speaker 14: won their their championship football game, and it turns out
• 29:22
  Speaker 14: the quarterback of the Parma Panthers and his mother are
• 29:25
  Speaker 14: New England Patriots fans. Wow, it was really crazy to
• 29:31
  Speaker 14: talk football with people from another country.
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: And did you tell them that you're Christian from l A?
• 29:37
  Speaker 14: Yes, I did, and they they listened to your show
• 29:40
  Speaker 14: and they had heard me speak before. It was like, whoa,
• 29:43
  Speaker 14: that's you?
• 29:44
  Speaker 5: All right, you're lying.
• 29:47
  Speaker 8: I need video, evidently I am.
• 29:51
  Speaker 14: I am still in Italy. So here's my my my
• 29:53
  Speaker 14: football thing though. It's a game for you guys. And
• 29:57
  Speaker 14: you name the last three pick that we made, where
• 30:02
  Speaker 14: the pick after became a stuper star named the player
• 30:07
  Speaker 14: that we picked, and the player after that became the superstar.
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: That's subjective.
• 30:12
  Speaker 14: And on Brady and Manny. If Brady and Manning did
• 30:16
  Speaker 14: a telecap together, who would be the who would be
• 30:18
  Speaker 14: the play by play guy, and who would be the
• 30:20
  Speaker 14: color commentator, I'll take it off air and I'll be
• 30:23
  Speaker 14: back in America.
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: Okay, all right, thank you. Keep spreading the Patriots man gospel.
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: I don't know, and he.
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: Left before he gave us the I can think of
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: was didn't they trade out of the spot and then
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: justin Jefferson Wentz traded ahead of us, traded ahead of us. Okay,
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: so they they couldn't have had I don't know that, Sony,
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: I gotta be.
• 30:45
  Speaker 8: Harry.
• 30:46
  Speaker 5: I know.
• 30:46
  Speaker 6: Well, that's but it's not right after him even.
• 30:48
  Speaker 8: To like, yeah, couldn't anyone was.
• 30:50
  Speaker 6: After his win?
• 30:52
  Speaker 5: Lamar Jackson, that's one, right, that's one that sounds right.
• 30:56
  Speaker 5: I think so right.
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: I would consider Lamar Jackson a super.
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'd have to consult, but it's too miserable and
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: I'm in a positive Patriots state of mind, so don't
• 31:06
  Speaker 4: take me down.
• 31:06
  Speaker 5: Christian.
• 31:06
  Speaker 10: The trades from Cole Strange to the A couple of
• 31:09
  Speaker 10: good picks from those eight drop backs.
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: By the way, he went to a we like, that's
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: a pretty big flex wedding in Italy.
• 31:15
  Speaker 9: Everyone is having their wedding in Italy the last two summers.
• 31:18
  Speaker 8: Everyone's in Italy. Everyone, all the people on.
• 31:21
  Speaker 15: Instagram, the influencers in Italy.
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what it is, Like, I could really drive
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: to the cake for a wedding and like fight Italy.
• 31:33
  Speaker 8: Oh you should see wedding culture and now it's out of.
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: Control crazy the Bachelor parties declaring it, Greg says, I
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: look like a little kid in this chair.
• 31:41
  Speaker 8: The chairs are comfy.
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: I hope.
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: Why am I the only one that's sunk down because
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: I'm fat? I don't know.
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: You gotta like, you know, suit up bigger, so.
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: I'll have to put like wood underneath my cushions.
• 31:53
  Speaker 10: Sorry, we'll get commentator for Brady. Who would Brady and Manning?
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: I think I think Manning is the play by play
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: and Brady's the color Yeah.
• 32:01
  Speaker 5: I think I do.
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: They're both great color guys, though, I.
• 32:03
  Speaker 8: Mean, yeah, the other day I switch my half.
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: Lumrooni doesn't usually do the Red Sox play by play,
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: right he's the color guy?
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: Well he did play by play on the radio, right, Yeah,
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: that's what I heard. All, okay, that's what I heard.
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: And I was a little bit thrown off by it
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: because Fred I've been watching a lot of Red Sox lately.
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: Why not. They're a fun team.
• 32:23
  Speaker 4: They're a fun team. I'm excited.
• 32:25
  Speaker 6: I'm glad.
• 32:25
  Speaker 8: Paul I said, dabbled.
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: For everybody said they were.
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: Can confirm, Yeah, good, well it was it was funny.
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: Is I just like I'm having conflict because I'm like,
• 32:35
  Speaker 4: I wake up, I've turned on sport like Brian bos
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: struck out the first ten batters and then all of
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: a sudden, like Tony Maserati, like I get a clip
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: on Instagram, like totally Masarati saying that he's he's been
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: a fail and I'm like, and I don't follow enough
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: of that right now to like know what the hell
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: he's talking about. But there's just a disconnect of like, well,
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: see that's how do you start.
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: This is typical Tony. You know, fail is too strong
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: a word, right. The jury still out on this kid.
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: He is struggling. He's having trouble with his control. He's
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: got the stuff, but he's having trouble with control, and
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: he's walking a lot of guys and he's getting himself
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: into trouble and then when something bad happens in the field,
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: it all go south. But that was a typical Bayo
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: game where he strikes at all those people, but he's
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: still having trouble because he doesn't have the control that
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: he needs. But he might get it. But to say
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: that he's a fails.
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: That's ridiculous.
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: That's ridiculous. Then Jared Duran was a fail and now
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: he's an All Star. So sometimes you just got to
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: trust your scouting and your coaching and stick with a guy,
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: you know, especially in baseball. I mean, these guys go
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: through you know, the minor league. Sometimes they don't become
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: a pro and till like their mid twenties, late twenties.
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: That's not rare. That's happens a lot in baseball.
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: Baseball in July feels nice.
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I'm having fun. Watch all how do you
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: lose to the a's Come on.
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: I know, come on the basis juice last night with
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: Raffi and ye grind it out.
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, let's get email is web radio at
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: Patriots dot com. Uh, Floyd writes in he's in Michigan.
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: Would you ever consider the following? He says, having some
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: shows where you don't take calls, having some shows where
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: you don't take as many calls to me, over time,
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: the quality of the callers has declined. Can you and
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: Paul please talk more? I mean we've taken one call.
• 34:33
  Speaker 5: Stuff and Paul's not here.
• 34:35
  Speaker 6: It's the start of the show.
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, now you know what. I hear what he's saying,
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: because you know, when I'm watching or listening to Paul's shows,
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: you know, notably Felger and Maz in the afternoon when
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: I'm driving home, sometimes the calls do bring it down.
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: And that's why I think Felger's really good at how
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: he handles them. If they start going on, he cuts
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: them off. If they don't start up right away, he
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: he cuts them off. And that becomes a stick in
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: and of itself, how he handles the callers. But I
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: don't want to do that with our callers because I
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: feel like if you take the time to call, like
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: I should at least be nice to you.
• 35:13
  Speaker 6: No time for plus, Yeah, no time.
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: I'm grateful that you're calling us and listening.
• 35:17
  Speaker 6: You know, what's the question? Just get to it.
• 35:19
  Speaker 9: I don't know, I'm like this poor guy.
• 35:22
  Speaker 8: I was just excited to call into his favorite show.
• 35:24
  Speaker 6: But it is funny, likeeen year old.
• 35:26
  Speaker 8: Kid like hi, guys, first, like what's the question?
• 35:30
  Speaker 9: It was like a seven year old that called into McAfee.
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: But the best call I ever heard on Felger. The
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: guy calls up. He had been waiting for an hour.
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: He gets on the phone and he goes first time,
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: long time. I'll hang up and listen. That was call,
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: like Felder and Madge just broke up. It was the
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: best call ever.
• 35:50
  Speaker 6: The best call is brilliant.
• 35:54
  Speaker 4: I love it.
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, first time, last, first time, long time. I'll hang
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: up and listen. Great call, great call.
• 36:01
  Speaker 8: You're probably so thrown off.
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: I just like the questions that spark a conversation, and
• 36:05
  Speaker 4: sometimes people question and we'll just get going and we
• 36:08
  Speaker 4: forget the person's even on the line.
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: Well, Melvin's been very good at that over the years,
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: sweet kid. Yeah, he usually throws a hand grenade and
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: we start arguing.
• 36:17
  Speaker 4: The hard calls for me are when somebody just kind
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: of throws a grenade, if hey, let's rehash this terrible
• 36:23
  Speaker 4: story and like throws it in and I don't want
• 36:25
  Speaker 4: to get into the whole, like Bilver's Tom thing right now.
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: Like you know, those ones sometimes, especially if you're in
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: like a positive headspace.
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: Travis in West Virginia earlier, fred I heard you say
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: about Montana he was vanilla and had no emotion. It
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: turns out you were talking about Montana's broadcasting career. But
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: my initial assumption was you were talking about Pat Nagawa.
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: It's a little listener on email or crime killing each
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: other today? What's going on dead the heat of the summer,
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: as I am wont to do. I disagree with everyone's
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: take on Greg Olsen as a broadcaster. He he gets
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: on my nerves because he tries to impart some kind
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: of deep football wisdom into every play and it's completely unnecessary.
• 37:08
  Speaker 6: Well, okay, to each their own.
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: Usually its strokes for different folks.
• 37:12
  Speaker 4: Usually I that this's just white noise to me, especially
• 37:14
  Speaker 4: we're usually watching the games in here, Like.
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: I have to say he's good, but I don't get
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: the whole the hype. Oh my god, he's great. Yeah,
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: I don't get that. Yeah. To me, all that says
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: is the rest of them aren't that good. If he's
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: that good, then the rest of them really aren't.
• 37:30
  Speaker 5: Yeah, there we go.
• 37:31
  Speaker 4: This is uh, this is gonna work. You know, like
• 37:36
  Speaker 4: one of those like pneumatic tubes that just like fires
• 37:39
  Speaker 4: it in hits me.
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: In the head.
• 37:40
  Speaker 10: The broadcasting that's been anoying me the past coal years.
• 37:43
  Speaker 10: I think it's gotten worse is the the on broadcast
• 37:47
  Speaker 10: ref like refusing to just admit that made a bad car.
• 37:50
  Speaker 10: I think it's gotten so much worse over the past
• 37:53
  Speaker 10: two or three years, and.
• 37:54
  Speaker 5: It's just like, just admit he messed up. It's fine.
• 37:56
  Speaker 5: They're human. They make mistakes, and it's like, oh no,
• 37:58
  Speaker 5: that's the right call. Like it's just it's not well.
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: When they first started, I forget who the guy was.
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: I think he was on Fox. They don't use him anymore.
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: But he was always wrong, like they bring him in
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: while they're not. It wasn't Prara is pretty good. This
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: guy was an older guy with white hair, maybe Terry
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: something I forget, but he was he was always wrong,
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: and then they got rid of him.
• 38:22
  Speaker 10: I think there's just so many new rules this year too,
• 38:24
  Speaker 10: so it's just gonna be more and more the kickoffs,
• 38:27
  Speaker 10: the hip drop, so I'm not looking.
• 38:29
  Speaker 5: Forward to this.
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: Reminded me of the hip trop I forgot about that.
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: Oh my god.
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: Speaking of the kickoff, Martin writes in and does Martin
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: say where he's from? Martin, He's from London. Bringing up
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: the kickoff rule, do you think the Jets have brought
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: Tarik Cohen back into the league as a sole kickoff returner?
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: Feels like he fits the prototype for what is needed
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: in that role, especially when Evan said that teams will
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: need a jitterbug type returner. Do the Patriots need to
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: bring someone in just for the returns? Feels like an
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: opportunity to put points to the board. So is it
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: worth investing in a guy for that sole purpose or
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: risk an existing guy getting banged up by running into
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: oncoming traffic.
• 39:08
  Speaker 4: We got Marcus, Yeah, I think they got some options
• 39:11
  Speaker 4: to consider. I mean I wouldn't I wouldn't go out.
• 39:13
  Speaker 4: I mean I'd love to see Marcus Jones get a
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: chance at it.
• 39:15
  Speaker 10: Bob Douglas regular kickoff guy, very interested. I think we're
• 39:21
  Speaker 10: gonna see a crazy like first six weeks, like nobody's
• 39:25
  Speaker 10: gonna know what to do with the kickoff. But I
• 39:26
  Speaker 10: could also just see it turning into like just boot
• 39:28
  Speaker 10: it out? Can you bloot out the end zone?
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: Oh you still do? Yeah?
• 39:31
  Speaker 10: I can just see people just being like, we're not
• 39:33
  Speaker 10: dealing with this, just got out the end?
• 39:34
  Speaker 4: How do you handle this season? Like do you not
• 39:36
  Speaker 4: reveal anything or you have to figure it out.
• 39:38
  Speaker 5: For your own purposes?
• 39:39
  Speaker 4: Like we have to show what we're gonna do because
• 39:41
  Speaker 4: we don't really know what we're doing.
• 39:42
  Speaker 10: Well, then I do hope that like it is an
• 39:45
  Speaker 10: added factor to the game and that you do have
• 39:46
  Speaker 10: some superstars back there and like see.
• 39:49
  Speaker 5: What he can do.
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: Also, Martin says he's new to the show and he
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: wants to know what our season schedule is during the season.
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: Where Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday two hours each, so we
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: go up to three shows a week during the season.
• 40:04
  Speaker 4: That'll be for week one though, I mean not.
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's the week prior to the first game
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: of the regular season.
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: And then we got the schedule for the shows too,
• 40:13
  Speaker 4: so it'll be we'll do what the first four practices
• 40:16
  Speaker 4: will be live PU and then and then some of
• 40:19
  Speaker 4: them because of this shifted practice schedule at eleven to
• 40:22
  Speaker 4: one will probably be a little bit later, so maybe
• 40:24
  Speaker 4: on Tuesday and Thursday there and later early morn.
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 40:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll have a little cheta check your local listings,
• 40:30
  Speaker 4: take your TV guide when p you will be on.
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: All right, my food's here, I gotta go, I gotta
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: send it to Paul.
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 40:37
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  Speaker 17: Out for another episode of Patch from the Past podcast,
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• 42:13
  Speaker 17: give rabel in, get rabel in, find the year in.
• 42:15
  Speaker 5: What was the experience like for you yesterday.
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: Mike, Well, it was amazing.
• 42:20
  Speaker 11: It just to come up and the reception that we received,
• 42:23
  Speaker 11: my family received, that I received from the first of
• 42:28
  Speaker 11: all the fans that we're here in the rain and
• 42:29
  Speaker 11: again I know that I wish that we could have
• 42:32
  Speaker 11: had the fans, but we didn't.
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: I think it was an intimate reception, just a lot
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: of emotion.
• 42:39
  Speaker 11: I don't think I've given myself a chance to just
• 42:41
  Speaker 11: to go back and reflect on that on the eight
• 42:44
  Speaker 11: years here and the success and the teammates, and I
• 42:48
  Speaker 11: think that was probably the coolest thing was to see
• 42:51
  Speaker 11: them and see Dante and be able to you know,
• 42:55
  Speaker 11: just catch up and you know, just see how excited everybody.
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: Is for you.
• 42:59
  Speaker 18: Can we go back to the start of that eight
• 43:01
  Speaker 18: years and you know, sort of run us through your
• 43:04
  Speaker 18: free agent visit here. We've heard a lot of stories
• 43:06
  Speaker 18: about how it's not overly glamorous when.
• 43:09
  Speaker 17: The line that they wind in dynam at the ground round.
• 43:12
  Speaker 11: I don't know if you were, well, I was with
• 43:14
  Speaker 11: Anthony Pleasant and so we probably got a little nicer experience.
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: I think we actually went to the Capitol Grill in
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: Chestnut Hill.
• 43:25
  Speaker 11: Yeah, so because I think Bill had had history with
• 43:28
  Speaker 11: with Anthony Pleasant, so he was probably like, well, let
• 43:31
  Speaker 11: me take Anthony for for a nice meal. And but
• 43:35
  Speaker 11: it was just you know, visit at the stadium in
• 43:37
  Speaker 11: old Foxboro Stadium. And you know, again, this isn't These
• 43:42
  Speaker 11: aren't recruiting trips. These are trips to to make sure
• 43:45
  Speaker 11: that you know, this is the player that we want
• 43:47
  Speaker 11: to target, and the player can ask questions and get
• 43:51
  Speaker 11: information and then make a decision. And so didn't have
• 43:54
  Speaker 11: a whole lot of options, and this one was certainly, uh,
• 43:57
  Speaker 11: you know, you know the best one for me.
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: Do you.
• 44:00
  Speaker 17: You said yesterday during your speech that it was important
• 44:03
  Speaker 17: for you to start. You know, in four years, you
• 44:06
  Speaker 17: did a lot, but you wanted to start. Did you
• 44:08
  Speaker 17: get a sense, maybe on that visit or early on
• 44:10
  Speaker 17: Mike that these guys had a good idea of how
• 44:13
  Speaker 17: to use you.
• 44:14
  Speaker 11: Well, I can remember having a conversation with Bill and
• 44:17
  Speaker 11: him saying, Hey, really, all we need is what you
• 44:20
  Speaker 11: did in that preseason game last year against Miami. And
• 44:23
  Speaker 11: I'm thinking I don't even remember playing Miami in the preseason,
• 44:28
  Speaker 11: but Bill had gone back and he had watched and
• 44:30
  Speaker 11: there were clips that he must have seen that there
• 44:33
  Speaker 11: was a vision for probably an extended playtime at that
• 44:38
  Speaker 11: point in time in the preseason or whatever it was.
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: And so then I started thinking, Okay, well, at least
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: you know.
• 44:45
  Speaker 11: They have an idea of how they want to use
• 44:47
  Speaker 11: me or what I maybe able to do there. Bill
• 44:51
  Speaker 11: had talked about the opportunity, not guaranteeing anything, but saying
• 44:55
  Speaker 11: that there would be a spot at you know, available
• 44:58
  Speaker 11: pretty much at outside linebacker where you know, they would
• 45:01
  Speaker 11: have some other players to compete with.
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: And then see where things were.
• 45:05
  Speaker 18: When you look at the way your years unfolded, it's
• 45:08
  Speaker 18: almost like it was a perfect system for you. I mean,
• 45:10
  Speaker 18: did you catch that right away, like they really want
• 45:13
  Speaker 18: to use me exactly to Well, I don't think.
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: I wasn't being misused in Pittsburgh.
• 45:19
  Speaker 11: I had just transitioned from a couple of different positions,
• 45:23
  Speaker 11: you know, was rotating in and was getting some playing
• 45:25
  Speaker 11: time three and four years in special teams and third
• 45:29
  Speaker 11: down packages, whatever.
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: That may be.
• 45:32
  Speaker 11: But this was a new opportunity, some carryover from Pittsburgh,
• 45:38
  Speaker 11: some different and then as things progressed and it was,
• 45:42
  Speaker 11: you know, learn this position. I actually think I played
• 45:44
  Speaker 11: two seasons inside linebacker or a season and a half
• 45:48
  Speaker 11: at some point in time, and you'll find myself at
• 45:52
  Speaker 11: different spots, do you.
• 45:54
  Speaker 17: I've heard this from many ex players, guys who you
• 45:56
  Speaker 17: played with and everything like that. Were you able to
• 45:58
  Speaker 17: get away with more as far as like maybe busting.
• 46:01
  Speaker 11: Bill's Paul, Well, I don't know. I think the time
• 46:03
  Speaker 11: is overratable. No, I don't think it's overrated. I think
• 46:06
  Speaker 11: that there is. Like I said yesterday, I think I
• 46:09
  Speaker 11: said things that everybody wanted to say, and I probably
• 46:12
  Speaker 11: was just dumb enough to say it. I sometimes say
• 46:16
  Speaker 11: the quiet part out loud sometimes unfortunately. Uh, but it's
• 46:19
  Speaker 11: all timing and sometimes.
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: You know it, you know, it's a it's a it's a.
• 46:24
  Speaker 11: Turn to punch bowl and doesn't always work, but sometimes
• 46:27
  Speaker 11: it works.
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: Out pretty good.
• 46:29
  Speaker 11: But but that takes a little bit of time and
• 46:31
  Speaker 11: it takes you know, again, you have to be willing
• 46:34
  Speaker 11: to take it and if you want to give it.
• 46:36
  Speaker 11: And I think that Bill always was very conscious of that,
• 46:40
  Speaker 11: whether that's players to to Bill or Bill to us.
• 46:44
  Speaker 11: You know, he knew that, you know, we had to
• 46:47
  Speaker 11: sit there and and take it when we got the
• 46:49
  Speaker 11: low lights and you know, we'd be on the bellustrator
• 46:52
  Speaker 11: and it would be like, you know, what we can't do,
• 46:54
  Speaker 11: and so it just it was a good situation. We
• 46:57
  Speaker 11: had a bunch of really good teammates that that all
• 46:59
  Speaker 11: kind rallied behind that.
• 47:01
  Speaker 17: Do you think maybe, I mean, you were able to
• 47:03
  Speaker 17: back it up with you play though, Mike, I don't
• 47:04
  Speaker 17: know if that's a fifty third or fifty fourth guy
• 47:06
  Speaker 17: that was trying to crack wise, it might be different. Well,
• 47:10
  Speaker 17: you you were a community eye on all three phases
• 47:12
  Speaker 17: of the game.
• 47:12
  Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean, but I think that that's what makes
• 47:15
  Speaker 11: a locker rooms just different personalities. Again, you have to
• 47:21
  Speaker 11: perform on the field and then whatever your personality is
• 47:24
  Speaker 11: I think that was there was no restrictions on, Hey,
• 47:27
  Speaker 11: we can just want.
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: A bunch of robots.
• 47:29
  Speaker 11: That's I think that was the impression that everybody had,
• 47:32
  Speaker 11: and we certainly weren't that.
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: Well.
• 47:34
  Speaker 18: The best thing about Mike, and I told you this
• 47:36
  Speaker 18: a million times, Mike didn't care who he was busting on.
• 47:39
  Speaker 18: Professional I used to call you a professional ballbuster.
• 47:42
  Speaker 6: That's what you were.
• 47:42
  Speaker 18: I'd come in with like a TV shirt on one
• 47:44
  Speaker 18: day and you go, look at this fraud. He's got
• 47:46
  Speaker 18: TV and it didn't matter. He treated all of us
• 47:49
  Speaker 18: the same, and I think that's probably permeated the locker
• 47:52
  Speaker 18: room and guarded respect in that way.
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: Well again, I think the fact that.
• 47:58
  Speaker 11: If you have a relationship with somebody, I think that's
• 48:00
  Speaker 11: when you kind of go back and forth with them.
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: It's like having a nickname. You don't have a nickname,
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: you know, there's no such thing.
• 48:05
  Speaker 11: As a bad nickname. Just be appreciative that you have
• 48:07
  Speaker 11: a nickname. That means that they know who you are
• 48:10
  Speaker 11: and that you're kind of a part of the group.
• 48:12
  Speaker 11: And if you don't have a nickname, you know, you
• 48:14
  Speaker 11: better try to figure out why. And so it was
• 48:18
  Speaker 11: whether it was a relationship with the media. You know,
• 48:21
  Speaker 11: it was a two way street assistant coaches and certainly teammates.
• 48:26
  Speaker 6: Much has been made.
• 48:28
  Speaker 17: You played in a different era of believe it or not,
• 48:30
  Speaker 17: where and as during your career the league was starting
• 48:33
  Speaker 17: to legislate against defenses hard hitting and everything like that.
• 48:37
  Speaker 17: When you look back at the Warner play Ties interception,
• 48:41
  Speaker 17: I just thought it was very generous of Tie to
• 48:43
  Speaker 17: give you credit yesterday to are you going to get
• 48:45
  Speaker 17: flagged for that if that play happens today?
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 48:48
  Speaker 11: I mean, I think that what we've talked about is
• 48:50
  Speaker 11: matching the hand, and they've they've they've changed here in
• 48:53
  Speaker 11: the last year or two about what's forcible. Hell, I
• 48:56
  Speaker 11: don't know, you know what I mean, I should have
• 48:58
  Speaker 11: gotten there sooner, to be honest with the block man.
• 49:00
  Speaker 11: It was just a lucky play and Tied it all
• 49:02
  Speaker 11: the work. And but whether it's you know, as long
• 49:05
  Speaker 11: as it's not forcible. You know, we've talked about matching
• 49:08
  Speaker 11: a hand and same thing that they teach here and
• 49:10
  Speaker 11: you know everybody else is trying to teach. And didn't
• 49:13
  Speaker 11: hit the football. I'm glad that I did it so
• 49:15
  Speaker 11: that Ty was able to catch it and score.
• 49:18
  Speaker 18: Can we ask you a little bit about tight end too,
• 49:20
  Speaker 18: and just sort of how that transition, how did it
• 49:23
  Speaker 18: come about?
• 49:24
  Speaker 4: Who's Who's I?
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: I think Drew put it best yesterday. I had a.
• 49:27
  Speaker 11: Bunch of energy and it'd show up three hours before
• 49:29
  Speaker 11: the game and go out on the field and Drew
• 49:31
  Speaker 11: it would be out warming up and I would start
• 49:33
  Speaker 11: running routes and he'd say, well, this is this is one,
• 49:36
  Speaker 11: this is two, this is three.
• 49:38
  Speaker 5: Four or five.
• 49:39
  Speaker 11: Run this, you know, different routes, and I'd run him
• 49:43
  Speaker 11: on the right and we'd flip around and run him
• 49:44
  Speaker 11: on the left, and then I'd go inside and wait
• 49:48
  Speaker 11: for the game. And he must have had a conversation
• 49:52
  Speaker 11: or Charlie was outside and said, hey, this guy could
• 49:54
  Speaker 11: probably do this, and we we headed in. We used
• 50:01
  Speaker 11: it finally in the Chargers game in San Diego. Scored,
• 50:06
  Speaker 11: we lost the game, so it did not get much attention,
• 50:10
  Speaker 11: and then kind of snowballed from there. Whether we had
• 50:15
  Speaker 11: two tight ends active or three, sometimes that that third
• 50:19
  Speaker 11: tight end was never very happy when we got down
• 50:22
  Speaker 11: to the goal line. And you know, so those tight
• 50:24
  Speaker 11: ends probably hated the fact that I would go in there.
• 50:27
  Speaker 19: At times when someone accidentally threw the school play costumes.
• 50:32
  Speaker 19: No replacements were shipped with FedEx, and with picture proof
• 50:36
  Speaker 19: of delivery, everyone could focus on the perfect opening night
• 50:39
  Speaker 19: FedEx Where now it's next for residential delivery only.
• 50:45
  Speaker 5: And now great moments in history.
• 50:50
  Speaker 20: And I was still nice enough to invite you along, Yes,
• 50:53
  Speaker 20: very nice. Yes, there were like six of us. I
• 50:57
  Speaker 20: mean the place was to say Fred was the you
• 50:59
  Speaker 20: know what block?
• 51:00
  Speaker 3: Why are you mad at me? Why? Why?
• 51:01
  Speaker 5: He says, with the big grin across his face.
• 51:03
  Speaker 3: Why are you so upset?
• 51:04
  Speaker 6: What I'm upset at you?
• 51:06
  Speaker 3: Why? Yeah? Just you? All of our lives are open book.
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: Why is it you are?
• 51:11
  Speaker 20: Why you purposely do these things?
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: Yes?
• 51:15
  Speaker 3: I do, Yes, yes, I do talk. We all talk
• 51:18
  Speaker 3: about things going on.
• 51:19
  Speaker 6: You make things out of thin air that are not there.
• 51:21
  Speaker 6: What's thin air?
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: You were with a lady friend? What's what's thin air
• 51:25
  Speaker 3: about that?
• 51:26
  Speaker 20: No, a lady friend implies that there's something going on,
• 51:29
  Speaker 20: and she wrote, that's the end of it.
• 51:31
  Speaker 3: Dude, Look but it doesn't have to be it.
• 51:33
  Speaker 20: It is because I told you yesterday, and I don't
• 51:35
  Speaker 20: like it when you make me repeat myself.
• 51:38
  Speaker 5: It sounds like my father.
• 51:41
  Speaker 3: You think I'm screwing things up for you.
• 51:42
  Speaker 6: Just tell me you've been screwing things up for me
• 51:44
  Speaker 6: for twelve years.
• 51:45
  Speaker 5: Buddy, Did you specifically tell him not to mention it?
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: No?
• 51:48
  Speaker 20: I knew he was going as soon as he walked
• 51:50
  Speaker 20: up and saw us.
• 51:51
  Speaker 6: He had that stupid grin that he's got on his
• 51:52
  Speaker 6: face right now. I can so see it.
• 51:56
  Speaker 3: I won't mention it again. But if when something happens.
• 51:59
  Speaker 6: Could you let us No, nothing is going to happen, you.
• 52:03
  Speaker 3: Know, like if they hook, you know, if they decide.
• 52:04
  Speaker 4: To nothing is going to happen.
• 52:10
  Speaker 6: You morons. I'm gonna go with, why are you yelling
• 52:13
  Speaker 6: at me?
• 52:13
  Speaker 17: I didn't do anything because because you're joking around to
• 52:15
  Speaker 17: you him on a little Yes, you do, admit it,
• 52:17
  Speaker 17: but this is.
• 52:18
  Speaker 4: All Fred, I don't know.
• 52:20
  Speaker 3: Okay, what'd you guys eat?
• 52:21
  Speaker 5: Did I miss that part? I had sword fish?
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: That's another great moment from.
• 52:28
  Speaker 3: All right back here on Patriots Unfiltered date five five
• 52:31
  Speaker 3: past five hundred is the a stick and hotline web
• 52:33
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• 52:36
  Speaker 3: miss Eric.
• 52:37
  Speaker 6: You just eat sword fish during the show.
• 52:39
  Speaker 3: No, this was that at the dinner that saw the
• 52:43
  Speaker 3: two of them.
• 52:44
  Speaker 6: All right, I misinterpreted the story. I thought you were
• 52:46
  Speaker 6: no stish work.
• 52:49
  Speaker 3: You don't do that, Yeah.
• 52:50
  Speaker 8: Absolutely, especially if it's in the microwave.
• 52:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't do that.
• 52:54
  Speaker 8: No, you gotta eat it cold. If you happened here
• 52:56
  Speaker 8: two days ago.
• 52:57
  Speaker 4: If it's gonna works, it's gonna almost right because it's
• 53:01
  Speaker 4: kind of seafoody.
• 53:02
  Speaker 3: But yeah, from cocktails, he's going to something that's gonna
• 53:08
  Speaker 3: you know, vile smell to the rest of the office.
• 53:11
  Speaker 3: That's just not good etiquette. You know, Uh, what's the
• 53:16
  Speaker 3: not cauliflower? What's the other thing that will Brussels sprout?
• 53:19
  Speaker 8: Sprout?
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: Smell?
• 53:20
  Speaker 6: Broccole's pretty bad too.
• 53:21
  Speaker 4: Broccoley is pretty bad smell when you cook it like,
• 53:23
  Speaker 4: it's kind of underrated. I I mean, I like broccoli,
• 53:25
  Speaker 4: but airfire broccoli beat dubs, change the game.
• 53:29
  Speaker 8: I gotta talk to you about the airfire.
• 53:31
  Speaker 6: Oh you got what cancer?
• 53:33
  Speaker 21: No?
• 53:34
  Speaker 4: Well, because Lane was like no, I heard, because well
• 53:37
  Speaker 4: the air it recycles the air. And I'm like, all right,
• 53:40
  Speaker 4: So the air fire caused cancer. Our gas stove causes cancer.
• 53:43
  Speaker 4: The microwave probably causes cancer.
• 53:46
  Speaker 3: What am I like?
• 53:47
  Speaker 6: Charcoal causes cancer?
• 53:49
  Speaker 9: Detalks enough of my life that I'm not that worried
• 53:52
  Speaker 9: about the air fire.
• 53:52
  Speaker 8: Especially I don't use that offen. My issue is that.
• 53:55
  Speaker 9: Like people on TikTok cook meat in the air fire
• 54:00
  Speaker 9: way better than I do, and I don't get it
• 54:03
  Speaker 9: because I can. I'm a master with a stainless steel
• 54:05
  Speaker 9: pan cast iron, like I can do.
• 54:07
  Speaker 8: The hard stuff.
• 54:09
  Speaker 9: I cannot figure out how people get the sierra and
• 54:11
  Speaker 9: the crispiness.
• 54:12
  Speaker 5: In the air turn it on, don't they.
• 54:16
  Speaker 8: I think people on TikTok.
• 54:18
  Speaker 3: Sear it first and then they put it in the air.
• 54:21
  Speaker 9: I saw a guy on YouTube cook a steak in
• 54:24
  Speaker 9: his airfire and it looks beautiful on one side, and
• 54:26
  Speaker 9: you can't convince me that he's not putting that on
• 54:29
  Speaker 9: a cast iron and then putting it in the air,
• 54:31
  Speaker 9: perfect real marks.
• 54:33
  Speaker 5: In the air fry, and you take it off halfway through,
• 54:34
  Speaker 5: shake it. It's good. I don't know if air fired
• 54:38
  Speaker 5: hot hot dogs.
• 54:40
  Speaker 4: It's so convenient like hot dogs.
• 54:43
  Speaker 8: If that's not the single man I live alone thing
• 54:46
  Speaker 8: I've ever said.
• 54:49
  Speaker 3: If it's air, right, it's hot air? Is that how
• 54:51
  Speaker 3: it works? Where's the fry come in right?
• 54:54
  Speaker 6: When you put a little it's a little out of it.
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 54:58
  Speaker 4: And then but it's not drowning in the oil. It
• 55:00
  Speaker 4: just it hits it with air and it And I
• 55:02
  Speaker 4: mean I've done tofu, I've done salmon, I've done chicken
• 55:04
  Speaker 4: and broccoli.
• 55:05
  Speaker 3: Is it fast?
• 55:08
  Speaker 10: Nothing you're gonna do. Frozen foods is the best thing.
• 55:11
  Speaker 10: Like you have a bag of fries tastes like McDonalds.
• 55:14
  Speaker 4: Oh it does.
• 55:14
  Speaker 3: So now they make ovens that are air fryers, like
• 55:17
  Speaker 3: the toaster one that I mean, I don't mean. I
• 55:19
  Speaker 3: mean like you're a conventional.
• 55:20
  Speaker 4: My convention over made air fried chicken last night with
• 55:22
  Speaker 4: it just just cut up a potato, tossed it an avocado,
• 55:26
  Speaker 4: oil and salt, throw them and it's like fresh fries,
• 55:28
  Speaker 4: like right out of there. And it's it's too convenient,
• 55:30
  Speaker 4: like and that's why Lane's already pumping the brakes on it.
• 55:32
  Speaker 6: And like we're using this thing too much.
• 55:34
  Speaker 3: Like the oil create creates the crispyiness.
• 55:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, and even on like like tofu, and some
• 55:39
  Speaker 4: people don't like tofu. But you know, we'll eat it
• 55:40
  Speaker 4: cover every a couple of weeks. But it'll like crisp
• 55:43
  Speaker 4: it up.
• 55:43
  Speaker 6: It'll put a shell on it.
• 55:44
  Speaker 3: If you toss it potato cook a pike potato nice quick.
• 55:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I inside, but i'd have to check,
• 55:52
  Speaker 4: but I'm sure it's we'll get back to it. But
• 55:56
  Speaker 4: usually I just cut them up and toss them in oil.
• 55:58
  Speaker 5: Nacho's like. It's great.
• 56:00
  Speaker 4: It's it's quick too. It's pretty healthy, I guess, except
• 56:03
  Speaker 4: for the cancer part.
• 56:03
  Speaker 3: Apparently it's only except the cancer.
• 56:06
  Speaker 9: I think it's only if I think it's teflon that like,
• 56:11
  Speaker 9: there's stainless steel ones that are fine. But I think
• 56:13
  Speaker 9: if you scratch the teflon, the chemical.
• 56:15
  Speaker 8: Starts to seep out. But I don't know.
• 56:18
  Speaker 5: I've used it.
• 56:19
  Speaker 8: I mean you get it from your air fire. You're
• 56:22
  Speaker 8: gonna get it from like your and going outside.
• 56:25
  Speaker 3: So like if you have to go, at least go
• 56:28
  Speaker 3: well fed.
• 56:28
  Speaker 6: And I'm gonna go eating air fried food.
• 56:31
  Speaker 4: And I mean the air fried broccoli you like get
• 56:33
  Speaker 4: it like burned almost and it's like crispy. It's my favorite.
• 56:36
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 56:36
  Speaker 9: Anyway, the summer, the oven, you don't hate up the
• 56:40
  Speaker 9: whole house in the summer it's too hot to see, right.
• 56:43
  Speaker 3: We'll have a cookoff, have a microwave, an air fyer,
• 56:46
  Speaker 3: a deep fryers.
• 56:49
  Speaker 8: On the stainless steel pan. That's my.
• 56:54
  Speaker 4: Well, still just just an iron cast iron skill. You
• 56:56
  Speaker 4: can do amazing. Just thinks with that, and I think
• 56:58
  Speaker 4: that's probably pretty healthy unless you're using because.
• 57:01
  Speaker 3: Okay, web radio at Patris dot com is the email
• 57:04
  Speaker 3: address Jeff and new Brunswick. I was listening to the
• 57:08
  Speaker 3: conversation Tuesday about starting Drake May in week one. I
• 57:12
  Speaker 3: think we are forgetting why they brought Jacoby Brissette here
• 57:15
  Speaker 3: in the first place. He's an established middle of the
• 57:17
  Speaker 3: road veteran with a great locker room reputation, and he's
• 57:20
  Speaker 3: a solid leader. No one ever thought that Drake wouldn't
• 57:23
  Speaker 3: look better on the field by the end of camp.
• 57:26
  Speaker 3: Not starting Jacoby for the first few weeks at least
• 57:28
  Speaker 3: will deprive will deprive Drake of the thing he needs
• 57:32
  Speaker 3: more than anything, leadership training. All NFL quarterbacks are required
• 57:37
  Speaker 3: to be good leaders. Their primary goal is taking a
• 57:40
  Speaker 3: team of APEX athletes with individual goals and agendas into
• 57:45
  Speaker 3: battle against other other teams. Leadership is learned and practice skilled,
• 57:51
  Speaker 3: not something you're born with. I'm not sure about that.
• 57:53
  Speaker 3: Drake needs to see how Jacoby manages his weekly schedule,
• 57:57
  Speaker 3: how he handles dissent on the sideline, how he rallies
• 58:00
  Speaker 3: the team when they're behind, how he deals with teams
• 58:03
  Speaker 3: success and failure, how he handles coaches, the media, the
• 58:07
  Speaker 3: multitude of distractions and so on. What Drake did at
• 58:10
  Speaker 3: UNC will no doubt help, but it can't be close
• 58:13
  Speaker 3: to what he will see in New England. He's still
• 58:15
  Speaker 3: just a kid like Offens. I hope Drake is the answer,
• 58:18
  Speaker 3: and I'm excited to see him in action as soon
• 58:20
  Speaker 3: as possible. But I think starting him week one would
• 58:23
  Speaker 3: be a mistake. We have to rely on Gerrod and
• 58:25
  Speaker 3: AVP to make the right call on that one at
• 58:28
  Speaker 3: the right time. So what do you think about the
• 58:30
  Speaker 3: whole leadership?
• 58:31
  Speaker 4: I would respectfully disagree, you know, I think there are
• 58:34
  Speaker 4: some things that I do agree with of just getting
• 58:36
  Speaker 4: a feel for the games, But I don't think if
• 58:38
  Speaker 4: you set out for six games, it's gonna make you
• 58:40
  Speaker 4: a leader all of a sudden.
• 58:41
  Speaker 3: I think what he's saying is watching someone who is
• 58:44
  Speaker 3: a good leader, does that make you a good leader.
• 58:46
  Speaker 9: I think he'll go play quarterback at the university in
• 58:49
  Speaker 9: North Carolina and you probably have some of those intangibles
• 58:52
  Speaker 9: you need By that point.
• 58:53
  Speaker 8: It's not like he's a toddler.
• 58:54
  Speaker 4: I mean, we all know what's gonna happen, right Like,
• 58:56
  Speaker 4: I mean, it's gonna be hard. There's gonna be you know,
• 58:57
  Speaker 4: some games that they don't play well and you're gonna
• 58:59
  Speaker 4: have to face the media and explain why. And it's
• 59:02
  Speaker 4: not this like secret about how you handle those things
• 59:05
  Speaker 4: the right way. And he seems like the kind of
• 59:07
  Speaker 4: kid that understands that.
• 59:09
  Speaker 8: I kind of disagree with the part that you're like
• 59:11
  Speaker 8: not born a leader. You have like I think you
• 59:13
  Speaker 8: kind of I think some people have that. Some people
• 59:15
  Speaker 8: are just born with those personalities.
• 59:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think he kind of has it. I just
• 59:22
  Speaker 4: I wouldn't be worried that if he plays immediately that
• 59:25
  Speaker 4: he's not going to understand how to be a leader
• 59:27
  Speaker 4: for the team. I do agree with the point though, that,
• 59:31
  Speaker 4: like I said, I think on Tuesday, of just understanding
• 59:34
  Speaker 4: how a game goes with adjustments and and and understanding
• 59:37
  Speaker 4: how much things might have to change based on the
• 59:39
  Speaker 4: game plan that you had going into the game too,
• 59:41
  Speaker 4: when you get punched in the mouth and you need
• 59:43
  Speaker 4: to adjust, like so, I do think that there's an
• 59:45
  Speaker 4: element of that that would be helpful to understand, like, look,
• 59:48
  Speaker 4: we thought we were gonna be able to do this,
• 59:49
  Speaker 4: we got to go to this, and you know, Drake
• 59:51
  Speaker 4: may at that point might be like, I have no
• 59:53
  Speaker 4: idea how to execute Plan B, whereas Jacoby Brissett has
• 59:57
  Speaker 4: had that experience and has gone out there and run
• 59:59
  Speaker 4: into a brick wall, and look, our game plan is
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 4: not going to work. We need to adjust on the fly.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 4: So I do agree there, but ultimately, I just think
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 4: we're talking about little elements that aren't going to really
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 4: matter in the long run, and I ultimately just want
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 4: to start.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 3: I'm not saying that there's nothing to be learned by watching,
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 3: but does a hell of a lot more to be
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 3: learned by doing. And if Jacoby's on the sideline helping
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 3: him through those transitions, that's fine too. You know. Yes,
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 3: I think it was a great idea to bring Jacoby
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 3: Presett in because he is a you know, he's a
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 3: good locker room guys, veteran in the league. He can
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 3: teach Drake a lot, but he doesn't have to teach
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 3: him out in the field. He can teach him on
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 3: the sideline and camp. You know, listen, like I said,
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 3: unless he's mentally not ready. He will be the starter
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 3: week one. Drake May.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 4: One thing I think he did he say that everyone
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 4: expected Drake me to look better than Jacoby Pressett at camp.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 3: I think, yeah, writes what he says. I don't, Yeah, I.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 4: Don't really expect expect that. I mean, I think it's
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 4: certainly a possibility, and I would welcome that, but I
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 4: think really my more of my expectation was that Jacoby
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 4: Brissett just understands how to run the offense right now,
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 4: and it's a little bit smoother, and you know, at least,
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 4: I mean, there's no question on the field, the athleticism
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 4: is completely different, especially when you compared to past quarterbacks
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 4: that we're here with how Drake looks. But I just
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 4: think the execution, I'm expecting that should look better under Jacoby.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 4: And if it looks the same or Drake looks better
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 4: at that, then then what.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 3: Are we What are we doing now? May has stuck around, right,
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 3: he never left Foxborough, So I think.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 9: I read that with his girlfriend's been posting a lot
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 9: of like explore Boston area, TikTok.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 3: There you go.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 6: That's she got her ear to the ground.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 3: Where this locat Even though the team's not here. He's
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 3: still football.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I doubt getting ready.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 10: He's like, I'm just gonna leave the playbook here and
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 10: go check out the same real quick, right, you know.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 6: He's like, I've never been to a new state before.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 4: This is crazy different things in North Sorry, that's my
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 4: strange words.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 6: I went into that one.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 8: You gotta get another dialect on the sub.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 3: They can handle a rotary on the first try, then
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 3: he can handle being a quarterback. In the end of
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 3: the day.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 8: You go, sorry, you got a rotary.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 9: So West Springfield's putting in a new rotary and it
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 9: wasn't at a place where you formerly could take a left.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 8: People lost their minds. They don't know how to use
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 8: the rotary. People were taking a left into this rotary
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 8: to the point, or the construction company that's doing the
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 8: work how to put up cones to block.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 9: So you can't even use the rotary yet until the
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 9: signs are here because peoples.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 3: Rotary guy through through right, well, the born rotary, they didn't.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 3: They changed the lines on the road to make it
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 3: a little bit. I saw that.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 4: I saw that.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's a good addition. But if you're
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 3: coming from Falmouth, it backs people up more because before
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 3: you come from twenty eight and you just blow out
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 3: onto the rotary, but now they funnel you to one
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 3: line at least if you're trying to, you know, follow
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 3: the lines, and so it backs up a little bit more.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 6: Like what is it like?
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 9: And it was, no, we do there's like a famous
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 9: rotary that makes no sense. It's a new one and
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 9: it's in like the center mall of the town. So
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 9: I know that was in a side, but I think
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 9: Fred could sense, like, had it.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 10: Like some rotary story rotary here.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 4: In New England that we have rotaries roundabouts roundabout.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 3: Let's see who's this DARPN in New York City. Uh,
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 3: these two things are very likely to happen. Patriots missed
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 3: the playoffs this year and Gerrod Mayo was still the
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 3: head coach next year, and both these make us eligible
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 3: to be on Hard Knocks next year, and I think
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 3: we would be one of the most, if not the
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 3: most compelling teams to be on. So from that premise,
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 3: here are my questions for the crew. What's out with
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 3: that premise though? Is that still the case without Bill
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 3: that you would be one of the most intriguing teams
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 3: to be. I don't see why he would be any
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 3: more intriguing than any other team.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 10: By next year if they were bad, it would I
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 10: think everyone who like mysterious.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 5: So it's like, oh, now he can finally like who
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 5: are the.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 3: You know, maybe they will emerge this year, but right now,
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 3: who are the you know, intriguing characters on the Patriots.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 3: I don't know. No, No, Matthew Judon, ye, he's by
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 3: the way. Well story on him that he wanted wants
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 3: an extension. They made an offer, but they're not close,
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 3: that's the report. I don't know.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 4: I wonder with him, I wonder.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 3: They could move him.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I think they could.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 4: And it's it's it's almost like one of those Bill
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 4: moves like where you're like.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 3: Maybe the Red Sox bring them on before the trade.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 4: Does not probably not as crazy as Seymour, but that
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 4: kind of move where you're just like, you don't really
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 4: have a guy in back of him, but it's moving
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 4: on at a certain time from a guy that you
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 4: know you're not going to be able to.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 5: It'd be one of those things, right.
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 10: The NFL's a business, and I get it, but like
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 10: that would suck just the past for you know, post
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 10: Brady era. That's like one of the few bright spots,
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 10: Like there are not many players that can get a
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 10: whole stadium to do a celebration when you makes a
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 10: big play.
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 5: From a marketing perspect that somebody gets the juice is
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 5: flowing tough.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 6: That's what they love in football.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 4: You can't cut on with marketing.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 3: So here are his questions for the crew. Do you
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 3: want hard knocks off season or training camp for the Patriots?
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 3: I'm loving the Giants off season show, but I don't
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 3: think I want that stuff to be out there for
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 3: my team. Man, Yeah, I.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 9: Would be jealous of the Like I'd be like, I
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 9: want that access.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 3: The Giants to prove that. Yeah, so like I had
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 3: somebody in my own thing. I can't believe that's what
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 3: the Giants said. That was okay. So apparently they were
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 3: fine with it.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 10: Was it the NFL like gun the head, this is okay.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 3: That's the way to not have hard knocks anymore, is
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 3: that teams start complaining about that. I think NFL Films
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 3: has been famously cooperative with the teams. They don't let
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 3: things go out that the teams don't want to get
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 3: out there.
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 4: It's got to be that true.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 3: Now, I'm sure they they urge them a little. Hey,
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 3: come on, can we just use this. I'm sure there's
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 3: a lot of that, but at the end of the day,
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 3: the team has final say.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think Hard Knocks.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 10: I'm going to be very intrigued by the Hard Knocks
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 10: Division or Division series.
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 5: I think that would be cool. It's like Pats Jets.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 4: I just like they're changing it up because it's like
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 4: you can only see so many times training camp like oh,
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 4: this is gonna be a tough cut, or all this
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 4: guy's undrafted and he's really making a push, or you know,
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 4: like oh, here's this you know, this guy's family while
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 4: he's gone at training camp.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 6: Are the.
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 4: Stories kind of seeing all that? But I don't know,
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 4: it would be interesting, just especially from the perspective of
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 4: this show, because if we were seeing all the things
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 4: that we're seeing with the giants behind the scenes, like
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 4: it would be very interesting to come in here and
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 4: talk about it, or you know, be like, you know,
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 4: my god, you know Elliot Wolf saying exactly what Paul
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 4: just said, you know, like those kinds of things where
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 4: or they're saying exactly opposite of what we were saying.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I think it'd be cool.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 4: I don't know. I hear Alex's point though, of like, well,
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 4: everyone gets to see this now, and you know.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 6: It's not like you'd like to like that kind of special.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 9: Access, and we would be like learning what people's offices
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 9: look like from the TV.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 3: Let's see. DARPN also says while the Patriots staff is
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 3: getting filmed, what would be your fight club? As in,
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 3: we don't talk about fight club. Mine is Mahomes, Chiefs
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 3: and Andy Reid. No one should be ever in any
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 3: context making any comparisons with them. It only serves to
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 3: make you look stupid. Not sure I get what he's
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 3: so like things that you just shouldn't say if you're
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 3: on hard knocks.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 4: So like anything about another team or well, you know,
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 4: like Drake is having a good game, he's looking very Mahomes.
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 5: I would just don't mention anything from the past twenty years.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I know, that's I mean, especially if it
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 4: came here next year, that would be yeah. Like, because
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 4: people are ears up for either trying to carry over
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 4: things from the past or trying to end things from
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 4: the past, regardless of what they are. That's everyone's radars
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 4: up for that but at least if you were a
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 4: year removed, you'd probably have a little less of that.
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 3: And who would be the most compelling person overall on
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 3: offense on defense? Bonus, if your choice on offense was Drake,
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 3: may give me your second place choice. So it's still
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 3: talking about heart here.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 4: Who's the most compelling Kendrick Porn or Douglas like you know,
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 4: the the receivers with personality who are out in the world,
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 4: and you know Marcus Jones. I think I mean golfing music.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 10: I think I think the thing is people would want
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 10: Christian Gonzales and then just like, oh he's.
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 4: Very he's very quiet.
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 5: That's the thing.
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 10: I think it'd be like, oh, now you get to
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 10: see what we deal.
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: This year.
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, push him. I wonder what Gonzales is going to
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 3: be like this year besides how he plays, Like, what's
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 3: his personality island assassin?
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 8: I did a community event with him recently.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 9: He was wonderful at the community event, super talkative with
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 9: the kids, opened up about actually a lot.
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 8: I think I think it'll be a good character for us.
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 4: Hope.
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 6: So I mean White, if Kem White can kind of
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 6: start to.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 8: I almost talk. I almost hope he just like we.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 3: Got to do stuff with his girlfriend too, right? Who's
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 3: that Gonzales? Who isn't Jonathan Jones? Jonathan Jones's girlfriend is
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 3: from so now Brazil is a home market for the Patriots.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 3: There we go just like Germany.
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 8: She'd be great, she has great instam following.
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 3: Got to get stuff with her.
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 12: Uh.
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 3: Kyle and Pembroke writes in if you could add one
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 3: Belichick era Patriots to this team besides Brady, Gronk and Moss,
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 3: who would you add? Uh?
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 4: I mean, I like, take your pick of pass rushers,
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 4: you know, Willie McGinnis, which should be nice or left tackles.
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 6: Pass rushers are left tackles. I mean probably Matt Light.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 4: I guess I wouldn't.
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 3: I'm the first person that came to mind for me,
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 3: believe it or not. Was Welker Me too? Me too?
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 3: Like somebody a binky for Drake Man A chainmoder Yeah,
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 3: pretty really really reliable, always makes the catch, you know,
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 3: a critical third down plays.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 4: I feel like we at least have guys that are
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 4: in that genre, though, where like you just you don't
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 4: have a.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 6: Game changing Randy Moss.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 3: But I can't other than Randy Moss I can't think
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 3: of somebody.
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 8: I feel for me, it has to be a receiver.
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 22: I don't know, Branch, Troy Brown, yea Troy Brown in
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 22: his prime, Rodney Yeah, McGinnis, rabele Broose, bring back Seymour.
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 4: Seymour, sure, I mean he'd be I mean any of
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 4: our players that could be.
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 3: How different would Seymour look? Would Gerard Mayo as his
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 3: head coach than he did with Bill Belichick? Would he,
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 3: you know, unleash the kraken a little bit more?
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 6: I mean give into nerd talk.
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 4: I mean I think it's a little bit schematically different.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 4: Where back then with Seymour they played so much three
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 4: four front right, So now it's kind of more two
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 4: big body guys. And I almost wonder if Richard Seymour
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 4: will be more effective in the modern imagine him next
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 4: to Barmore, well him and you know him and Barmore,
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 4: so he can do both things. But instead of always
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 4: dealing with tackles, he's dealing a little more frequently with
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 4: guards and centers too. So you know, I think those
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 4: those could be an advantage for Seymour. I mean he
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 4: I think he could thrive in any scheme and have
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 4: done anything he was a Hall of Famer.
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 6: But yeah, I think I'd.
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 4: Be interested to see how they used him in this one. Now,
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 4: how they do things differently, you know, not as much bass.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 3: He's not. Neither one of them are Belichick era guys.
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 3: But what about either Ben Coates or Russ Francis.
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 6: Beast, I mean tight ends. Can they can run?
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 4: I mean one of the one of the little nuggets
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 4: that I got from the FTN dbo A thing was
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 4: like Hunter Henry is like the ultimate catch and fall
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 4: down guy, which everybody knows that, but it was like
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 4: he was like the league lowest in like yards after catch.
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 6: So but I mean it's fine. He's effective red zone touchdown.
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 3: A five yard that.
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 4: As the quarterback, and you know, like the offense, you
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 4: know he's getting it on, getting it hot like you
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 4: right on top.
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 10: We talked about last week with Jakobe Myers, like he
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 10: always catched the ball, like that's always the boom goes down.
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 3: All right, So you want to give me some nut
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 3: that you've been holding your No, no, I do.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 4: I think it's good, And I think we might try
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 4: to get Aaron Shots, who who was, you know, the
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 4: purveyor of dv O A and again it is at
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 4: FTN now no longer football Outsiders. So but these are
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 4: just some deuced nuggets, you know, nothing crazy, just you
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 4: know topics. It's it's maybe i'll spit something out and
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 4: you guys will be interested. But the big one is
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 4: the projection of wins, and they do have a mean
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 4: projection of seven point one Wow wins.
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 3: That's that's pretty high. And now what's the reasoning?
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 6: So well, let me let me get through a little.
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 4: Just in terms of overall on the clock zero to
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 4: five or zero to fifth overall pick twenty six percent
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 4: chance mediocrity is six to eight, uh, overall on the
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 4: forty six percent and playoff contender ninth to eleventh in
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 4: the draft twenty five percent, So they're a little bit
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 4: higher on that. I mean, there's definitely some you know,
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 4: murky you know, as to where they are, but six
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 4: to eight sounds like where they.
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 3: So if he's get Patriots higher than most, he's got
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 3: to have some teams lower than most.
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 4: Well, well, and I haven't gone through all the other
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 4: teams that I have done the AFCs, but I mean,
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 4: just for for comparison's sake, which I thought was interesting,
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 4: they have their you know, their projected wins over the
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 4: last four seasons. They estimated so twenty nineteen estimated eleven wins,
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 4: Patriots got twelve. Twenty twenty estimated seven point seven wins
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 4: they got seven. Twenty twenty one they estimated nine wins,
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 4: they got ten. Twenty twenty two, eight wins they got eight.
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 4: Last year five wins they got four. So last five
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 4: years they're pretty close in the in the in the environment. Now,
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 4: I'd like to just read a brief a brief passage
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 4: which I think Alex, especially.
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 3: With find recording to do.
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 6: No, this is good. This is good.
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 4: Though, this is the second paragraph of the Patriots preview,
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 4: which I'm gonna read because that has a direct impact
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 4: on some of the people in this room. Here. Mayo's
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 4: appointment as head coach marks a pivotal shift in the
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 4: Patriots approach. Unlike the secretive and often stoic nature Belichick,
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 4: Mayo brings a fresh perspective and openness to the team.
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 6: A few weeks.
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 4: Before the twenty twenty four draft, Mayo gave a candidate
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 4: interview in which he openly said the team was was
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 4: going to draft a quarterback. This marked the first stark
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 4: departure from the belichicking way. Even the Patriots social media
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 4: presence has shifted, with the team posting Goofy Goodwill Hunting
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 4: inspired parodies featuring current and former players, Mayo and others
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 4: inside the Patriots building. It's simply a more intimate look
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 4: inside the franchise. None of this is by coincidence. It
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 4: is a deliberate effort to usher in the new era.
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 6: Wow, that's kind of fun. A little shout out to
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 6: good Jewelry.
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 3: The year before.
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  Speaker 9: I know, I think Gerard being in it was a
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 9: big sitting point for people for sure.
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 4: For sure branded by so just to throw some other
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 4: these are kind of rapid fire, but you know, just
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 4: like adjusted notes.
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 6: And this is actually I'm gonna save.
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 4: This one to the end because I think that's a
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 4: bigger conversation. But uh, seventh straight seasons Patriots defense has
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 4: been in the top five of broken tackles, so very
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 4: very good tackling defense. And one of the points that
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 4: they make in this is the kid. We talk about
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 4: the carry over from Belichick to Covington and Mayo. Does
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 4: that continue that?
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 3: In other words, they don't, they don't misstack, they don't.
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 6: They were top five last five.
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 8: Years, contrary to what Twitter during a game makes.
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 4: You think, Yeah, twenty twenty three Patriots, oh face more
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 4: man to man than anyone else. I think that's to
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 4: your point, Fred, you don't scare anybody.
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 6: They just man you up. You're not gonna beat us
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 6: one on one.
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 4: Back to the defense. Twenty fourth pressure rate on first
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 4: and second down, their second on third and fourth down,
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 4: so early down kind of problems getting after the rusher,
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 4: but they're pretty good once they get to third down
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 4: and can scheme things up. But with the loss of
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 4: Judon last year, they led the league in defensive backsacks
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 4: and people coming from the secondary. So it just kind
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 4: of illustrates what they had to do without judea On
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 4: in the mix.
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 6: They really had to get creative without and.
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 3: You know, again we lost Steve Belichick and his and
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 3: Bill and I think those two minds were really good
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 3: at adjusting and you know, using what you have in
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 3: different ways.
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 4: Especially on third down when it's time to get creative.
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 4: Last year, Patriots only recovered eleven of thirty two fumbles,
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 4: So that's a regret.
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 3: In the ground. You came up with only eleven.
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 4: So that's a regression to the meansta, I think you
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 4: talked on Tuesday about something the defense needs to do
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 4: force more turnovers last year, that's just an example of
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 4: they kind of forced more, but they didn't really benefit.
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 6: Probably should should be up.
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 4: The second fewest opponent penalties in the.
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 6: League to Chicago.
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 4: So you know, we talked about Patriots getting all the
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 4: calls like they they did not.
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 3: So the other teams weren't called a lot.
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 4: The other teams were, you know, getting more penalties. Yeah,
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 4: against it, just a couple more to share with you guys.
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 4: Thought Devon Godchaw has an interesting player, and you know
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 4: they do have specific players. One thing that they point
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 4: out about Devon Godshaw a lot of tackles, not a
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 4: lot of stops. Now a stop is like you stop
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 4: them short of the line to gain or it's you know,
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 4: qualified as a victory. That's a big part of this
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 4: DV away status. Like you know, if it's the third
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 4: and two, did you get three? You know not if
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 4: it's you know, when you get you need, how you
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 4: get what you need. So just really near the bottom
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 4: of the league in terms of run stops that you know,
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 4: actually making a play on the ball. So I thought
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 4: that was topical, and then I would say the last
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 4: point is that they really like my gotcha bril Peppers,
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 4: uh top three safeties versus the pass and d v
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 4: o A yards allowed for pass and success rate.
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 6: I like him, so I had to throw that one.
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 2: I love him.
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 4: He he is, you know, garnering some elite praise. One
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 4: last point I make to his you know, last year,
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 4: I think we a couple of years ago, Evan said
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 4: it like Fantasy era, the advanced analytics didn't love Jacoby Myers.
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 4: They don't love Demario Douglas either. I don't know if
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 4: it's that kind of player, but he's another players. So
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 4: lots of great stuff in this I highly recommend pick
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 4: it up FTN. Like I said, we'll try to get
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 4: shots on the show interview him.
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 6: But I was, you know, pleasantly surprised by seven point one.
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 6: I think that's what did they do?
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 3: They do things differently than some of these other analytics.
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 4: I mean, the core, the core of this stat is
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 4: it's not predictive, it's what happened, and it just tells
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 4: you how long did they get what they needed to get?
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 4: You know, Then the comparison I kind of hinted at
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 4: was you know, first and ten you get two yards
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 4: that is not successful.
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 6: Third and one you get two.
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 4: Yards that is successful. So it really that's kind of
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 4: the heart of their statistics, you know. But there it's great.
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 4: It's one of the ones I use. It's not really again, predictive,
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 4: it's not something you say, but it's it's just a
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 4: really good, good number that doesn't you know, I don't know.
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 4: I don't get lost in the whole epa of it
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 4: all and all those things. I know those are other ones.
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 4: But they do it really well.
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 3: They invented DVA.
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 4: Aaron shots invented DVOA. They've been doing it forever. It's
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 4: personally one of my favorite stats to kind of look
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 4: at and you know, stack up how teams did.
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 6: But the thirty two team previews.
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 4: And you know, really thorough all the players. So yeah,
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 4: it's a great it's a great read. It's one of
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 4: my favorite things. I don't know if they did it
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 4: last year it was they had a falling out with
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 4: football outsiders, so bookod stuff. Little high on the Patriots.
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 10: Oh, the seven wins is interesting because like I'll be
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 10: throwed if they get seven wins. But like we were,
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 10: we were a missed field goal and a couple Aaron
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 10: throws away from seven wins? Are we just going to
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 10: be the same team with just a slightly better quarterback
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 10: like Pats were really close to show? Yeah, but that's
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 10: the NFL.
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 3: True, you know, that's the NFL, and that's what separates
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 3: it's not doing those stupid things. Eight five to five
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 3: pass five hundred is a ticket houtline. Brian's in Oregon.
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 3: What's up? Brian?
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 23: Hey, guys, how are you doing today?
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 2: Good?
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 23: You actually just hit on a roughlye what I want
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 23: to talk about. I'm stuck between emotions from this team
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 23: because I've been a long time saying back to the eighties.
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 23: I'm starred from the last couple of years of the
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 23: way the team has kind of fallen, the coaching, the
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 23: lack of offensive talent. But I'm excited for this year
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 23: to see what they do. I'm a little worried about
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 23: the coaching and the lack of Belichick and some of
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 23: the changing of the defense, But as far as the
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 23: wins for the year, I have a would you rather
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 23: for you guys, and that is would you rather the
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 23: Patriots win seven games this year? But they play the
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 23: same style of games they did, which was awful offensively,
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 23: just ten to six, you know, six nothing, just brutal
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 23: games to watch. Or would you rather than win two
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 23: games but then be more entertaining losing you know, thirty
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 23: four to thirty one, you know, thirty twenty eight, that
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 23: sort of thing and see some development in the offense.
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 5: Is the seven wins? Drake May like? Is he play well?
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 5: Is like?
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 3: Is it well? You just said it's just like thirty
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 3: to twenty eight, So obviously he has with the two wins. Yeah,
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 3: with the two wins, seven wins, so you're scoring, he said,
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 3: more entertaining offensively, he said, but what happens? More entertaining,
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 3: but now your defense is dropped off?
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 10: Right, Well, I think with the seven, if you do
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 10: seven wins, then you might have missed on Drake May too.
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 10: So I'll take the two.
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think. In other words, just like before you called,
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 3: Brian Latist was saying last year, the difference between four
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 3: wins and seven wins was just a couple of plays
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 3: that but it wouldn't have looked any better, you know.
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 23: Right, they were still they were still trains to watch.
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 5: Right, I'll take the two because there's a lot.
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 8: You know, it's so demoralizing.
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 9: Almost win every time, Like what does that do to you?
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 9: But you have capitalize, Yeah, but you can't execute it.
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 3: But now we go so like so you lose every
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 3: game thirty to twenty eight or thirty five thirty. Now
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 3: you go into next year saying we got to rebuild
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 3: our defense.
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 6: I know, I know it's hard.
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 4: It's hard for me to see them being a thirty
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 4: point team per game and they only win two games,
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 4: But I would probably take the two just because I'm
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 4: so sick of watching what he just described. It's horrible,
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 4: the defense trying to and the offense. Just thanks Brian,
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 4: watched that movie enough for couple.
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 10: Of years, Like I'm excited to see Matt Judon take
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 10: the field and they don't need to watch two three
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 10: and outs, Like yeah, I know, if Drake if we're
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 10: if we go two and whatever it is, and Drake
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 10: May is throwing three hundred yards and three touchdowns maybe
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 10: one pick.
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 5: I am final.
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 9: I know it's a problem when you're taking your bathroom
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 9: break when you're like, okay, I'll wait till the offense
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 9: is back on.
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 3: The like or you're watching red zone off the pass
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 3: are on, like, but I think that's unlikely, you know,
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 3: to you know, to have him play that well and
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 3: have the defense dropped off as that much. I hope
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 3: that's unlikely.
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, growing pains are all right.
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 4: I don't expect them to you know, be a thirty
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 4: point per game offense, but you know, a couple of
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 4: explosions like that would be would be nice.
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 8: Especially say some of the good teams too. And it's
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 8: a schedule.
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 3: You want that game where say this is the game
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 3: that Drake may.
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 15: An NFL quarter But coming out game it's hard though too,
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 15: because I mean I was talking, you know, we talked
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 15: to beating the season a little bit, mentioned a bunch
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 15: of the ninety four season where they you know, they
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 15: finished strong, and like just looking at the schedule with
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 15: the late.
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 4: Bye and then the final four games at Arizona, at Buffalo,
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 4: the lack here and then Buffalo.
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 6: Just a challenge with those two Buffalo games to really.
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 4: Put up a kind of performance, specifically with those last
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 4: two games that you're going to carry some excitement away. Like,
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 4: I mean, both games are pretty close last year, so
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 4: you know, hopefully they would be able to hang in there.
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 4: But it's it's still it's not like you had, Like
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 4: I mean, maybe they hammer Arizona and then the lack
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 4: looks like they wish they were still in California, and
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 4: you know, they hammer them and then maybe that that's
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 4: a that's a positive sign. But I just think specific
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 4: to those two Buffalo matchups, what do you expect? How
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 4: do they end the season here at home against Buffalo?
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 4: Who I mean, maybe Buffalo's sitting starters at that most.
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 10: Potential for a little mid season run. Yeah, around London
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 10: game and after it's just a little interesting.
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we had some jets at Tennessee at Chicago.
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 6: I mean it took again when people get all like with.
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 4: A schedule, I mean, that's as easy as it's going
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 4: to get in the NFL, I feel like.
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 6: I mean, and who knows what Aaron Rodgers is doing
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 6: at that point.
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 4: But like Will Levi's you know, rookie Chicago guys the
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 4: halfway through their season.
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 10: Like Rams coming to the East Coast, like you know,
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 10: oh come on, maybe I don't know.
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 3: Just the defense has to kind of hold the ground.
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 3: I look at the defense this year as sort of
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 3: a middle reliever, just hold the fort down until we
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 3: can maybe score some runs, you know.
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 6: Isn't too much to ask.
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 4: And that's you know, going back to Andy's thing where
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 4: it's like, I don't think they have to be elite
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 4: and the top three defense and you can only allow
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 4: ten points, Like that's not the expectation.
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 6: They can still be good enough.
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 4: And I think, you know, going back to the turnovers,
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 4: I think just getting more turnovers Jonathan Jones Gonzalez back,
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 4: like those guys they got, they got to get their
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 4: hands on some balls and take them away, and that
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 4: I think will really be a spark for the offense
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 4: that the offense didn't even get last year.
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 3: Really to be honest, all right, Chris from Virginia. More importantly,
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 3: he says, you guys have to try corn on the
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 3: cob in an air fryer four hundred degrees from twelve
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 3: to fifteen minutes. Spray the corn with spray, butter or oil,
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 3: a little bit occasion seizing or old bay.
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 5: He added that needed.
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 8: I'm intrigued.
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 3: Nothing better than good corn in the cop We're getting
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 3: close to it right now, getting close to the season.
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 8: I think it started a little early because I.
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 10: Had a really crazy video of a guy who bit
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 10: the whole he ate the corn.
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 5: But he bit into the cob and your purpose he
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 5: did it. Yes, it was insane and he ate it.
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 5: He ate it. It's a reaction one of those stitch videos.
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 5: He just like he was like this is good and
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 5: bit into the cob. Ate the whole thing.
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 6: Is the Cape known for corn? Or is that just
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 6: because I always get corn up there?
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 3: The Cape is Jersey is where you get Jersey corn. Absolutely,
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 3: it's the thing. Yeah, yeah, corn. I mean everyone thinks
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 3: Iowa and all that, and they probably get it earlier
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 3: in the season, but you know, mid to late August
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 3: September Jersey corn.
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 4: There's just such a difference though. When you get like
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 4: that early season.
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 8: Corn can smell it, smell it.
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 6: Like it's just so much more juicy. It's a big.
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 8: Kernels butter on the grill.
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 4: Love it and you got somebody's like here, let me
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 4: dip it in Mayo real quick, like wa wa whoa,
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 4: whoa whoa jail like you know, the like the Mexican
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 4: street corn that they do.
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 6: That is good though, that thing, it's you gotta be
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 6: right for you.
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 3: Were talking about I don't know if it was on
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 3: the air, but tacos earlier yeah, what makes a taco
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 3: a street taco?
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 6: Oh, well, usually there's soft tacos in there.
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 9: I don't know, you don't know soft taco messy cooked.
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 4: On the side, just like meat, like cilantro and onions.
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 8: Really simple.
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 3: That's I don't know.
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 10: Street like street tacos have a small corn tortilla base,
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 10: making them easy to grab and go.
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 6: Yeah, well there you go.
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 8: I did say that's messy.
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 3: We's messy.
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  Speaker 21: Yea.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 3: I like my tacos crunchy.
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 8: I like the place I was telling you about. You
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 8: should check that out. It's opening. It's in Dennis Taco
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 8: the it's a food it's a little food truck. Yeah, no,
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 8: it's good. They have like the Bria style.
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 5: So it's like, that's the best.
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 8: I don't know what to say it. It's like a
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 8: It's like there's a word in porg called more.
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 9: It's like the marinade that is cooked in Yeah, so
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 9: you can dip the hard taco into.
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 5: That and then they fry it.
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 8: They fry it in the sauce.
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 4: To you haven't lived.
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 8: So close to you too. I love Taco bell. I
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 8: love Taco Bell.
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 4: When I lived in La I still remember the first
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 4: time I was like, I think I'll try this taco place.
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 4: And and I had only ever been to Taco Bell here,
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 4: like Taco Bell and El Too, those are the only
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 4: two Mexican food and like wool Baby, it was.
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 9: You and Lane would love this place next time you're
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 9: in Dennis. Because they're from They're from Dojuana and then.
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 8: Grew up in San Diego and now for whatever reason
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 8: they are they.
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 3: In that Patriot Plaza.
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 9: Are No, it's like a random do you know across
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 9: the couffee the big cuffees.
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 4: Down on twenty eight I think it's.
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 8: On twenty eight. It's a big coffees and porium right
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 8: across the street. It's a little We were.
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 3: Just west Nnis. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 4: We were just at that new cuffeees. That thing's crazy.
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 9: Well it was a rainy day when I went, and
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 9: the cuffees was swamped and people were coming. So then
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 9: I got there at the perfect time because I ordered
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 9: my tacos and the guy was like, you just cleaned
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 9: me out.
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 8: I had to close like two hours early.
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 4: My sister was like, it's like Disneyland. And I went
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 4: there and I'm like expecting I'm like, this is.
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 9: Just I will say Cuffees quality unparallel. I have a
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 9: sweatshirt from the Provincetown Cuffees that I've had for fifteen
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 9: years and I still wear.
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 5: I had to throw.
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 6: I just had to throw some Cuffee sweat.
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 4: They lasted forever and it's good stuff.
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 3: Shout out Coffees, all right, Uh spain some merchant Yeah
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 3: speak spiing Fresno finally binged the last dance this week
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 3: A credible series. Just wanted to hear your thoughts broadly
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 3: comparing the Bulls dynasty to the Patriots dynasty run with
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 3: this uh whatever ways you want to, which for Mike
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 3: presumably means quietly uh pouting that hockey isn't involved. But like,
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 3: how do you compare the Bulls run to the Patriots run?
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 4: Well, I don't know.
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 8: I had a once in a generational player.
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 3: I mean they both had they had the great coach.
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 6: Based out there.
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 4: Maybe I'm wrong, correct me if I'm wrong, but I
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 4: feel like the Patriots had more. It was longer and
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 4: they were more kind of not I don't want to
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 4: say ebbs and flows because it was mostly flows, but
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 4: there were different teams like it was you know, it
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 4: would be like if well, Michael Jordan did it with
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 4: Pippin and all those guys, and then and then he
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 4: did it with a whole new team, Like I don't
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 4: gross like his team wasn't you know what I mean?
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 4: It was all kind of the same core right that
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 4: held their dynasty.
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 9: Basketball is so easy if you have two of those
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 9: crazy stars, you can change your whole dynamic.
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 8: Your team.
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 9: We're in football time and a time again we see
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 9: these teams get this player and you built hype it up,
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 9: and then it's just it's too hard of.
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 3: A bottom line, Patriots run better, longer, harder sport, too sport.
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 8: That's the thing.
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 2: I think.
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 9: Seasons and just playoffs more of a team sport, and
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 9: way more intangibles and fifty injury.
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 4: Guys and so many adjustments that have to happen.
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 10: And you know, Brady played through like three generations of
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 10: the NFL. You see that hit of him against the
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 10: Bills back in.
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 4: Two thousand, just launching himself.
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 5: And now you get touched into flag.
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 6: How many years?
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 4: What's the Bills? Is there like a number that people
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 4: have like I don't know when their first and last
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 4: titles were, but I just wonder what it is.
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 3: They won six? Right, how many did they win?
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 5: I thought you were trolling the Bills. I think that
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 5: the Bills real quick. They won six. It's six titles,
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 5: the Bulls with Jordan. Yeah.
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so I don't know, I don't know how long
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 3: their run was only maybe if there's a way that
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 3: you could look that up.
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 4: But still it was like the nineties, right, like it
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 4: was just the nineties.
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 3: Nineties, nineties wasn't even the seconds.
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah, last century.
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 3: But I don't think Phil Jackson is as good a
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 3: coaching basketball as Bill was in football.
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 4: Well it's interesting though, like, well, because don't you feel
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 4: like Phil's system.
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 3: It's only seven years.
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 4: Phil's system translated to the Lakers, and he had success
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 4: there too. I mean six Paul here to be like, well,
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 4: actually I don't know, I don't you know, enough nuggets
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 4: I to get myself in trouble, you know, but you know,
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 4: then the Lake person or the average fan.
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 3: So they won six titles two three peats to three peats. Wow,
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 3: that's pretty, that's pretty.
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 8: It's impressive.
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah, over nine years, it's just I mean, but but.
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 8: It's the greatest player.
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 4: Together, the greatest player with like a great men on
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 4: the cour Bill Russell R.
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 3: Right, they're playing against Sunny's car wash.
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 8: Don't bring up the old school basketball team.
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 3: George Mike and.
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 6: Back in the day.
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 4: Who's back?
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 8: Basketball is basketball?
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 2: Right? All right?
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 3: So got another half hour. So here's another debate that
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 3: I heard that I don't know. I'm not exactly sure
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 3: which side I take right now, but maybe somebody can
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 3: talk me in or out of it. So the Lakers
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 3: started counting the titles that they had in Minneapolis. We
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 3: started ye found out, you know, yeah, and Ia you know,
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 3: so they get so they have seventeen banners, so that
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 3: puts them up to seventeen. Without that, they're like.
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 9: The Lakers, but not the city of Los Angeles, right right.
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 9: I hate when people say the LA Lakers have seventeen.
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 3: No they do not, but that's what they're saying. You know,
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 3: it's no lakes.
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 8: People are, yeah, where's the lake?
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 3: So when you move your team, even if you're allowed
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 3: to bring the stats from the old team, when you
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 3: are you allowed to bring your titles with you, does
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 3: that count?
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 10: Like? So the Rams are they like? Can the Rams
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 10: in LA now count the greatest show on turf?
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 3: Can the Dodgers in La count Brooklyn. I don't think
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 3: they won any in Brooklyn, but had they well to like.
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 4: The Packers count their NFL like their NFL championships, Well.
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 3: They were the super they were always in green Bay.
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah right, yeah, so I think I think that counts.
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 4: But you still the only talk about Pittsburgh, right. I
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 4: don't know what the official number is with green Bay.
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 4: That's a good question.
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 5: They won. They won five in Minneapolis.
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 3: Five in mine, so they don't win years were those?
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 4: Like how crazy were we getting?
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 8: Like then?
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 10: Unless it's a nineteen forty nine, nineteen fifty nine to
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 10: fifty two, fifty three, fifty four?
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so should those count towards their legacy?
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 4: And those were NBA championships or is that an old league? Okay?
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 4: I was still on the NBA, so while the Celtics
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 4: were were they were kind of with them there.
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but the Celtics didn't start winning until Russell came in.
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 3: That was like nineteen sixty or fifty nine a little
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 3: bit later.
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I kind of think they should count. I'm crazy
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 4: or not, But like, I don't know what's the franchise.
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 4: I think I don't know, Like this, can it only
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 4: be when you were where you are.
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 3: And now when when Cleveland moved to Baltimore, part of
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 3: the deal was that they couldn't take any of the
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 3: Browns records, So.
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 4: And then the Browns got all their records back, the
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 4: Browns records.
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 6: Browns have never won it.
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 3: But when the Colts moved from Baltimore to Indianapolis, they
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 3: could they did take their records with them. Did you
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 3: know that It's weird? Yeah, because Modell and Cleveland, he
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 3: just did it like overnight, like the moving trucks just
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 3: showed up and and he did it under the cloak
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 3: of darkness. But the Colts was, you know, everybody knew
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 3: what was happening. It was the league sanctioned and all
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 3: that stuff, you know, so they allowed them to take
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 3: all their wreck.
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 10: I think the Lakers thing is interesting because they're they're
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 10: saying they have the most and that's where it gets interesting,
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 10: because like, did they.
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 4: Just decide to do this like the last couple of weeks,
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 4: like all of a sudden, They're just like surprised.
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 9: It was a narrative when the Lakers won in the
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 9: bubble too, because then they tied the Celtics. Yeah, okay,
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 9: because that was their seventeenth and then they both had seventeen.
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 9: I think the franchise can take them, sure, whatever, but
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 9: it's when people from Los Angeles claim them as their own.
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 9: When it's like you were in Minnesota and you were alive,
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 9: but like no one in your ancestry cheered for this team.
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 6: So that's like, did your grandfather roof.
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 8: Right, my great great grandfather.
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 9: If there's anyone from Minnesota originally from Minnesota that is
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 9: now in Los Angeles that has generations of lineage of
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 9: Lakers fandom, let me know.
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 8: I'll take back my words, but.
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 4: It is interesting with it. Like I mean, there's a
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 4: significant amount of teams that have moved.
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 8: But like Los Ange you just can't claim those the
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 8: Lakers can.
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 6: I Mean, the whole thing's just ridiculous.
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 4: They're still the Lakers anyway though, right, like like you're like,
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 4: come on this all thing.
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 5: Give the Texans the oil.
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 4: Like Minnesota gets all that they they have, all the titles,
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 4: Like Minnesota can hang the banners.
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 6: The Lakers are the Lakers.
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, all right, spee along the same lines, I'm
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 3: gonna get you all in trouble with Paul when he
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 3: returns your evaluation of the Bulls dynasty was pathetic and
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 3: the right and the great white snark will set you straight.
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 4: I look forward to that for sure.
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 3: So was it pathetic in that we were overrating it
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 3: or underrating it?
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 13: No?
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 5: Great?
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 8: I mean I was born in ninety four.
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 3: I don't two three.
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 4: I don't know. It's like it's like they we should
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 4: like w w PD, like what will Paul do or
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 4: what will Paul say? Is he going to be higher
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 4: on the Lakers dynasty than we were or the lower
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 4: on the Diggers? Because I think he's lower on Phil Jackson.
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 4: I think he's dismissive of the Kobe. I don't know.
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 4: I could be wrong, though, it's hard hard to get
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 4: in there.
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 3: He loves Superstars, he does love Superstars.
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 5: Two three pizzas crazy?
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, So I mean Jordan is Jordan?
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 4: I think Paul is going to say it was it
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 4: was better. It was great, not better than the Patriots,
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 4: but just better than what we were coming.
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 3: It's Jordan, the greatest goat in pro sports and the
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 3: same amount of Tom is a greater goat and then Jordan.
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 4: Was longer, harder sport.
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 3: MESSI that's fair, mess.
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 4: Can you can you give me globally.
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 5: No, I don't have enough. I don't have enough data
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 5: for that.
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 3: So Messy better than Pele. Yeah, yeah, if you watched
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 3: a lot.
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 5: Of I watched the Pale. Yeah he's playing against Farmers.
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 4: Okay, I did with Messi. I had a Malik Nabor's
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 4: situation though, too, when I first became aware of him,
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 4: and I was like, holy crap.
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 6: This guy is different.
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 10: Well, Bessie Renaldo, they were scoring so many goals that
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 10: now and a person scores fifteen goals, which is a
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 10: lot of goals.
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 5: It's not fifty goals in the season. What are we doing? Yeah,
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 5: like what he got averaging like fifty.
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 4: I just couldn't believe it. How effortlessly he moves with
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 4: the ball like he runs full speed.
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 6: It's it's like, it's just cool.
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 3: Messi saro to hot.
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 9: Like I was just talking about this over the fourth
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 9: of July week with like my family, that we live
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 9: in such an American bubble.
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 8: But then you realize, like like if.
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 9: You compare Messi and Ronaldo's like just their Instagram following,
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 9: for instance, Tom Brady's, it's like, I think Messi and
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 9: Ronaldo have something of like six hundred million followers, And
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 9: I don't know if Brady has like face.
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  Speaker 3: It's definitely more of a worldwide sport. But here's the thing,
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 3: and I'm probably gonna get all you.
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  Speaker 6: Got to use your feet in all the soccer.
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 3: All the soccer fans are going to get mad at me.
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  Speaker 3: But when we look at these other countries like Portugal
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 3: and Spain and France and Germany, pretty much the best
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 3: athletes in those countries are playing soccer, right, Like, if
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 3: you can play soccer, you play soccer in the countries.
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 3: And in this country we're doing this this debate. It's
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 3: not even close. The best athletes in our country are
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 3: not playing soccer. They're not because the money's not. For
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 3: whatever reason, they're not playing soccer. So what would happen.
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 5: If like Lebron James played soccer?
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 3: If they did, you know, the best athletes in our
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 3: country grew up that soccer was their main sport.
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 4: Like I would just want to take like NFL wide
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 4: receivers and we have soccer trials like from that position, right,
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 4: I got.
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 3: Heading you knows, not like the greatest.
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  Speaker 8: That's the thing.
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  Speaker 9: They're not crazy athletes. They're just kids that grew up
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 9: and they popped out of the womb on a farm
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 9: in South America, and there was already they learned how
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 9: to walk, they were dribbling.
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 3: He's a unicorn, right, yeah.
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 9: But now there's a kid that's sixteen scoring goals in
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 9: for Spain and it's like.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I mean, I'm a newbie getting introduced to these things.
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 4: I mean, we saw the facility in Germany, but like
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 4: the development and the signings.
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 8: That we don't have the infrastructure in the US.
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 9: Youth soccer is like so politicized here with the club teams.
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 9: You have to be a rich kid to really be
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 9: at these camps and on these special teams. And it's
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 9: not in South America. It's just a dirt field and
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 9: a rock ball.
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 4: Like that's what they're question I have, Alex is just
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 4: like what is the commitment from parents financially time wise,
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 4: because like, as a guy, you know, I have kids
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 4: who are like at that age of travel sports and
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 4: yead of a big conversation and it's a humongous expense
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 4: and time commitment. But in those programs does that do
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 4: they just kind of I mean, are those still problems
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 4: for the parents or are these are these more Well,
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 4: it's kind.
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 9: Of different too, because their kids aren't like playing varsity
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 9: sports and they're not going to like prep schools. If
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 9: you're good enough, you're in an academy at what thirteen
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 9: twelve years old? Sometimes young run Yeah, like you're sent
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 9: away and you're sent away right right, and you're in
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 9: these organizations and you're just that way, Like that just
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 9: doesn't really happen here. And also if you watch like
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 9: Matis can probably speak to this, watching like North American
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 9: soccer exclude Mexico, but like Canadian soccer and American soccer,
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 9: it's like it's almost a different product. It's like kick
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 9: and run, brute force, whereas you go to South America
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 9: or Europe and it's like skilled, it's like art to watch.
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 8: It's like the way they pass around, it's more natural. Yeah,
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 8: it really is, so you it would take generations.
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 10: I think the big difference is in the cities. Here
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 10: you got a basketball court, yeah, the city is. In Europe,
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 10: there's like little soccer fields.
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 8: Dirt soccer fields and street soccer, and.
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 5: That's what you need here for basketball.
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 9: And those kids are playing soccer on concrete, and that
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 9: the quickness of the ball moving across concrete there's no friction,
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 9: the level the skill they get from just that alone.
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 4: It's just the financial barrier something that is so interesting.
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 8: It's sad to see as parents like.
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 4: Hot, like you'd yeah, thousands and thousands.
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 8: Look varsity hockey and across high schools.
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 9: It's sad to see football programs, soccer programs, the varsity
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 9: they're just being totally stripped from these AAU and these
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 9: club teams.
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 8: It's sad. I hate it.
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 4: And and so many of these AU and club teams
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 4: are just like money grabs and.
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 9: Oh yeah, your kid's gonna make the d teams, but
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 9: they get the merch right and they get to wear
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 9: like the outfit and say they're on the junior whatever,
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 9: you know what I mean, Like it's just junior money.
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 9: If your kid is good enough in varsity soccer, they're
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 9: gonna get found if they're good enough. And at the varsity,
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 9: I don't know, it's just.
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 8: Going to be the next like.
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 6: Really good at baseball.
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 4: Right now, he's twelve years old, and it's like, okay,
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 4: you're out of Little league now, so how do you, like,
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 4: do you join one of these club teams where it's
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 4: you know, kids are on pitch counts and you know competitive,
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 4: and you know it's it's hard to navigate.
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 8: We just need rex sports better.
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 4: You wonder what the effect would be on American exports because,
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 4: like to Matisa point, not as much of a barrier
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 4: on basketball, Like you know, it's you need a ball
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 4: in a hoop and a lot of most towns have
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 4: them hockey huge barriers, you know, I mean skates.
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 6: Skate like travel.
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 4: I mean, how much does this stick? Exactly five bucks
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 4: and you get two sticks and you know, mostly make
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 4: through the year. If it was a Christian Brothers has
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 4: been indestructible. But you know, it's just how do you
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 4: remove those those barriers for young.
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 9: Shouldn't have that barrier. Like every kid one of the
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 9: first sports they play is soccer. But then it gets
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 9: to like you wonder why the kids are walking away
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 9: from it.
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 8: It's not as fun because it's just the parents and
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 8: the clubs. It's just too political.
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 3: Alex and Raleigh. I recently went to the Women's Soccer
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 3: League game down here the North Carolina Courage, and recently
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 3: chattaw with Tory Holt. He is part owner of the team,
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 3: and I asked him how much he and the greatest
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 3: show on turf expected to win that game, he said,
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 3: we beat them earlier in the season, so we were
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 3: flying high and didn't expect to lose. He was a
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 3: great person to talk to and really goes to show
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 3: how dominant the run was. Yeah, but they won, but
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 3: they didn't. Really. That was the game that the Patriots
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 3: showed they could compete anyway. Also, soccer take athletes don't
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 3: make soccer. Having the soccer IQ, the dedication to understanding
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 3: the game are such an undervalued skill in the American system.
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 3: The US system wants athletes first then soccer players. This
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 3: can be a whole show debate and I love it.
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 8: Yeah, that's exactly the point. We kind of just made
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 8: just the kick and run soccer run be big.
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 5: Ron James still be great, but he might. Yeah the technique.
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 8: Son, his first touch isn't like Messi's or like whoever,
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 8: name your any player from Europe, even some.
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 5: Reps players here.
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 6: I know, Yeah, I did well.
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 4: USA Hockey's dounning. Good job, like trying. I think they
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 4: tried to emulate these and they have the National Development
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 4: Program and they have Yeah, you know, you talk about
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 4: teaching the game and you know all the different computer
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 4: programs now, I mean the virtual reality stuff here, Like,
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 4: there's so much more going into all sports of understanding
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 4: the game on that never existed when I was a kid.
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 4: We never did, like, you know, it was just kind
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 4: of here's our breakout, you know, here's our four checks.
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 8: You know, you have a couple of drills in practice.
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but there wasn't that kind of detailed analytical insights.
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 10: You know.
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 3: One of the things in America, you know, United States,
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 3: we have a bigger pool of people. Obviously it's a
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 3: bigger country. But in these other countries, it seems like
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 3: there's only a few sports that everyone pays attention to,
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 3: you know, baseball, for soccer, skiing, maybe.
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 8: Underwater.
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 3: So like this, it doesn't spread out the talent pool as.
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 4: Much, whereas here you've got kids playing baseball, flag, football, hockey.
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 3: And then then I'll get into my Olympics rant, which
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 3: you know, I think the Olympics is ridiculous now, the
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 3: sports that they allow in break dancing, break dancing in
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 3: the Olympics, I mean, what are we doing?
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 4: What are we doing?
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 3: Skateboarding is in the Come on, it's kind of cool though,
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 3: skateboard it's a.
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 4: Little bit cool, cool, what's cool about the X Games.
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 8: They're on a half pipe doing like flips and stuff
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 8: with a little board this big.
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 21: That's rat I know what skateboarding is, but why is
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 21: it Olympics a lot of hawk though, so I mean
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 21: when you really think about it, though, how much different
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 21: is it from gymnastics really, like in terms of contorting
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 21: your body and trying to execute.
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 3: The only thing I'd say about gymnastics is that it
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 3: goes back to the Greeks. They were doing some form
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 3: of gymnastics back then. It was you know, tests of strength.
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 6: So you just go back to Fred, you go back
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 6: to the original. Carry a rock, throw a rock.
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 3: It's a rock. But even now the gymnastics, I mean,
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 3: I don't want to make fun.
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 4: It's a freak. I mean, like like it just swished
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 4: people into like ten bodies.
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 3: And you've got to imagine that the training that they
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 3: do for gymnastics, stunts, their growth does.
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 5: Twenty one is a big deal of someone Biles coming back,
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 5: but she's like sold.
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 9: They also well, especially field gymnastics. Gymnasts have a lot
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 9: of issues with like their hormone and balances.
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 3: They get older and stunts freaky and then it really
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 3: does gymnastics, the floor exercise and the beam. Okay, I
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 3: think the beam is one of the toughest things in
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 3: Oh my god, But what's with all the hand movement?
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 6: What about.
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 8: Like, I'm not watching a dance recital. I want to
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 8: see that.
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 3: Don't use music. They just go out there and they
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 3: show how strong and agile they are with all this.
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 3: And oh she picked Beyonce. It's really a crowd favorite.
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 3: I don't care. Just do your tumble, you know what,
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 3: what are we doing? It's so stupid.
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 4: We have a figure skating though, you feel similar along
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 4: those a little bit.
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 3: A little bit, but at least figure skating is what
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 3: it's supposed to be, dancing on ice, you know.
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 4: And do you have a problem with the sports that
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 4: include like style points, Like it seems like a lot
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 4: of the ones where you have people judging the style
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 4: rather than just you ran faster.
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 8: What else do you hit Olympics?
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 3: Oh, there's a whole bunch of them. Yeah.
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 5: The speed walking, Yeah, that's a dumb one.
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I know it's been around forever. But
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 3: the one where you're skiing your shoot.
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I don't like that one.
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 4: You know, what about the one we have to like
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 4: jump over a thing and go through water, and like
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 4: that's pretty cool, Like you know they have the hurdles, Yeah, like.
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 6: What steph Like what's the point of that? In the
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 6: middle of it.
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 3: Flace face plant right in the water, and then everyone's
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 3: like trampling.
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 4: Jump over a puddle like in the Olympics, Like what
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 4: do we doing?
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 3: But I do say one of the ones I had
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 3: the most respect for are those track and field people.
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 5: The sprinting is the best one.
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 3: Hell yeah, but even like the four hundred, little long
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 3: distance to saying they're insane, the shape that they're in.
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 4: I just wonder, like what is the peak of human performance?
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 4: And when when we hit it? Because no one's ever
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 4: gonna run let's just say the four. No one's gonna
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 4: run the four hundred in one second, So there has
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 4: to be.
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 8: We got to give these people st it's got to
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 8: be aligned, like.
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 6: It'll never get beyond. But it keeps wriittling down.
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 3: Slogan swimming, everyone's always breaking records.
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 5: And swimmings phelps and like how much better?
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 3: And I think it's interesting, like swimming has gone the
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 3: other like gymnastics. They hardly wear any clothes anymore.
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 8: The girls right, like, yeah, have an issue with the college.
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 3: Women smuggling grapes, and now they have and now they
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 3: have like the full short and we're guys are like
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 3: shaving their bodies and now they were they that was
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 3: such a thing, right you know, So it's.
• 1:49:59
  Speaker 4: Gone the other way, sleek like a fish dolphin.
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  Speaker 8: How much could that happen?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you never heard that before. I didn't.
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  Speaker 4: I think that's a river.
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  Speaker 6: What a woman watched The Woman where the Paris.
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  Speaker 10: The red line is going five miles an hour coming
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• 1:50:40
  Speaker 4: We can't do the Celtics, pray, We've got Olympic events
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  Speaker 4: going on.
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 3: So you're just finding out that the Olympics are in Paris,
• 1:50:47
  Speaker 3: just confirming that in my head, I thought, you haven't
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 3: watched NBC in four years. I watched a little bit.
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  Speaker 4: It's just crazy. I mean my own roughing experiences with
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  Speaker 4: you know, these kids are paying two twenty five hundred
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  Speaker 10: That's also the social media part too, Like when I
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  Speaker 3: Now. You want to see something competitive though, go to
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  Speaker 3: one of these team cheerleading competitions. Oh sure, Oh my god,
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  Speaker 3: that is cutthroat, cut throat.
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  Speaker 8: Bring it on, vicious.
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 3: The girls are vicious, Yeah they are, and like they're
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 3: out there like with bandage knees and you know, oh
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  Speaker 3: my god.
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  Speaker 4: And the guys that are involved in this they throw
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  Speaker 4: them and they like are doing oh yeah, and it's
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  Speaker 6: I'm just doing the cheerleading.
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  Speaker 8: Competitive cheerleading is so sick. Those girls do not get
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 8: enough credit.
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  Speaker 9: It's also like one of the most dangerous sports for
• 1:52:46
  Speaker 9: concussions that no one talks about.
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  Speaker 4: Girls hit the floor like they throw them off and
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  Speaker 8: One of my best friends was she's on like the
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  Speaker 9: So they're the ones that get thrown up in the
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  Speaker 9: basket tosses like on the parquet, and every time I
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 9: cover a Celtics game, it's like my friend getting thrown
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 9: out and I'm just like, I don't know where your
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  Speaker 9: head goes, just like God forbid they fall and just.
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  Speaker 3: They wear those guardile caps thels Andrew in l A,
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  Speaker 3: sound at the end it double r Yeah, football email
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  Speaker 3: jacket and abba. How about trading Judean for starting left tackle,
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  Speaker 3: then playing Kayden Wallace at right tackle where he belongs,
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  Speaker 3: and moving Mike and when you back to right guard
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  Speaker 3: where he belongs. By making that one trade, the Patriots
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  Speaker 3: would strengthen three positions on the offensive one it's playing
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  Speaker 3: a lot of Madden.
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  Speaker 5: It's just hard.
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  Speaker 4: It's hard to do player for player trades like that.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, what team's got an extra left tackle that
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  Speaker 4: they do? You know, we can slip him from the
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  Speaker 4: pass rusher. I think if jude On goes it's it's
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  Speaker 4: probably for a pick.
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  Speaker 6: It's probably for I.
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  Speaker 10: Mean I would then maybe kind of a third maybe
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  Speaker 10: like if you don't pay me, you can maybe get
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  Speaker 10: some more at the trade deadline. Like if there's a
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  Speaker 10: team that's.
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  Speaker 5: Like all out, like we're a player away, like all right, well.
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  Speaker 4: And he's such a guy that you could see a
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  Speaker 4: team being like we're we're you know. I mean not
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  Speaker 4: that the Patriots are close to the pass rush to
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  Speaker 4: the playoffs last year, but you could see them if
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  Speaker 4: they were being like, this is the piece that we're missaving.
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  Speaker 10: What if it's like the Ravens are a guy away
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  Speaker 10: and he goes back to the Ravens like at the
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  Speaker 10: trade deadline, Like I don't know.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah I could, I mean, I could see it.
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  Speaker 4: I'm kind of curious how how it's all gonna play out.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, I think next or.
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  Speaker 4: Two weeks when we go to camp, it's like, is
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  Speaker 4: Godshaw here, is judeon here? And of course they could
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  Speaker 4: be there, and then they just could be kind of
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  Speaker 4: hanging out and then we start getting the vibes of
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  Speaker 4: like it's a hold in.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 9: Well it is interesting too, because it's not like they
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  Speaker 9: haven't they they haven't been hesitant to extend a ton
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  Speaker 9: of guys, especially on the D so.
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  Speaker 4: Just right, but it's you know, it's the young guys,
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  Speaker 4: and that's like the message has got to be staring
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  Speaker 4: those two in the face, that like they're going out
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  Speaker 4: of their way to guys off their first contract and
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