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Before the Cover-Up: Inside Epstein’s Earliest Florida Victim Account (Part 3) (5/13/26) · The Vault: The Epstein Files

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  Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
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  Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're going to pick up
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  where we left off with Michelle Pegan and her interview
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  with one of the survivors during the initial investigation into
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  Jeffrey Epstein down in Florida. Pegan, So you're in the
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  kitchen area. What happens next? Answer from the survivor. We
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  were waiting there, we were talking just about how cool
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  the house was. I'm like, oh my gosh, I've never
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  been in a house like this. And then the lady
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  and the man came in. Jeff I'm pretty sure, like
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  ninety percent positive. And he walked in. He was like
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  in a T shirt and pants, not pants, but you know,
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  like maybe like kind of dressy. And he was like hello.
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  She's like, hi, Hayley, and then he said hi to me,
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  and then he said hi to the girl. He knew
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  the girl and he knew Hayley. But then he said,
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  I don't remember your name, but the girl was like, oh,
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  she's like I know that. He didn't remember her, but
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  he knew her, do you know what I mean? Pegan,
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  Uh huh answer, He didn't remember her name, but he
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  knew she was, and then she's like, oh, hi, and
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  she's like who are you, and I'm like, I'm redacted.
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  And then he's like, okay, well, then follow my I
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  don't remember the lady's name, but she she he said,
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  follow her redacted upstairs. So she's like, come on, and
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  then we walked upstairs and I thought she gets interrupted
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  by pegan by herself answer yes, I thought that Haley,
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  because she said that she was gonna get paid. So
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  I thought Haley and the girl was gonna get paid
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  and like, you know, like private privacy, and because it
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  was just him and her and the other girl in
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  the kitchen, and so I went upstairs and as I
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  was walking upstairs, there was a picture of him in
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  like a different country. And then I'm like, that's really cool,
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  and the lady said, isn't it? And she was just
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  walking upstairs and there was like a door and then
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  it was like to a little inaudible, this big and
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  it had a couch and a couch and it was
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  like another walkway towards that way, and then walk towards
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  like keeping walking forward, and then to my right and
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  there was a bedroom and then we turned right again
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  and there was a bathroom a big It was humongous.
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  And the bathroom it wasn't like a bathroom bathroom. It
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  was like a sitting area with a shower there, humongous shower,
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  like a jillion people could fit in the shower. And
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  then it was humongous. And there was like a door
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  here and you opened it and there was like a
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  little desk with paper and pads and stuff, and I
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  don't know inaudible, like sitting on the couch right here,
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  like against my there's this big, long couch and it
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  was pink and green, hot, pink and green. And there
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  cut off again by Pegan the room or the sofa.
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  Answer the sofa, Pegan, okay. Answer And there's a table
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  with a phone on it. And during when I was
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  giving him a massage, he made a phone call. But
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  I don't remember what he just said, like he said
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  four words and hung up. Yeah, I don't remember, Pegan.
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  But the lady, So you were upstairs and you're sitting
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  down and the lady's there. What she doing? Answer? Oh,
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  she's Well, there's a closet right here with a table
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  in it, like the massage table. Pegan near the sofas.
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  Answer yes, like a door on each side, and on
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  towards the door, there's the door for the table. She
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  took that out and there's like a safe and then
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  she put it in the middle. It's this way like
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  long ways, and then she put like put like cloth
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  over it. But she's looking around the room, I guess,
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  just to look like she was remembering something. I guess,
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  like where the lotion was. And there are like pictures
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  of like naked girls on the walls, and there was
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  like there was like one big mural of naked girls
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  like butts. And then towards the door, there was like
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  a cabin in here, like a built in thing like
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  an audible, and there's draws in it. And she opened
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  the last drawer and there was a whole bunch of lotions,
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  like millions and millions of kind devlotion. And she picked
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  up three kinds of lotions and put them on like
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  an armoire kind of thing with a mirror. And the
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  end she said it there, and then after she told
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  me sit here for five minutes, like just sit here,
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  And eventually he came in and was like hi, I'm Jeff,
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  and I'm like hi, and he's like I'll be right back.
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  You can take your clothes off, and then he left
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  and there's a bedroom out there, and he just went
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  out there, and I don't know, but there's like pictures
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  out there. I think. I don't remember he took off
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  his clothes and put a towel on him, but I
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  don't know if there was a towel thing back there,
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  because it's like I don't remember. Question did he undress
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  in front of you? Answer? No, he didn't, but he
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  took his towel off in front of me. Answer or
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  question okay, so he came back in Answer Yeah, he
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  came back into the room and he was but gone
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  where you dressed? Answer? I was in a bra And
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  he said no, I mean't get naked, and then I
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  was I went like that, and he was, you can
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  keep your and underwear on, but get down to your
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  bron underwear. So I took off my pants cause he
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  was real stern about it, like take off your pants,
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  and then I just took off my pants and then
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  he laid down on the table. But like after he
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  was laying on the table, he took off the towel
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  just enough, you know, like you could see Pegan. Did
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  you see him naked? Answer? Yes, I did. And it
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  was disgusting. Pagan, I don't mean to I know, maybe
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  it's disgusting, but can you describe him? Did he have
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  any marks, tattoos? Was he hairy? Answer? Yes, he was
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  really very hairy on his chest and his back and
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  towards Okay. I don't mean to sound gross, but Pegan, no,
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  say it the way you would say if you were
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  speaking to one of your best friends. Answer okay, Pegan
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  inaudible answer Okay. He was laying on his belly side,
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  so his butt was like up and there was like
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  he had a very hairy back all the way to
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  hear and then there was just like a hairy butt
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  line going down to his butt. Pagan, Okay, answer is
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  so gross. Okay, then, Pagan, did you see in front
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  of him? Answer? Yeah, because he got off the table,
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  he like turned this way so everything showed towards me,
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  and then he got off and then he went and
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  whacked off and then he came back in. But he
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  was very hairy on his chest area and I just
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  looked like for one second and it was very very disgusting. Okay,
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  That's all I have to say about that, Pagan. Do
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  you know what it means? And I have to ask
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  you because there are some people that don't to be circumcised. Answer, No,
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  I don't. I don't really know, but I think he
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  was on steroids because he was a bill guy and
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  his wienie was very tiny, pagan, His wi wi was
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  very tiny. Answer yes, question and when you mean we
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  wei you mean what answer his penis pagan? Yes, his
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  penis okay? Answer yes, his penis pegan. People will call
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  it different things, all right. I just wanted to make
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  sure we know. Okay, he laid down. He took off
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  his towel and he laid down. Answer he laid down
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  on the She gets cut off by Pegan. Did he
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  take the towel completely off or just open it? Answer? No,
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  completely off Pegan. Okay, where did he put the towel?
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  Answer on the floor, right like the table underneath. Question? Okay,
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  so he laid down, took off the towel. What happened next? Answer?
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  And then he's like at the lotion. So I grabbed
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  the lotion, which I had to walk almost naked, but
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  I was in like a thong. So yeah, my butt
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  was showing. And he the table is like, I mean
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  the sink was you know the lotions were right there
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  and I was over here, and he was like, go
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  get the lotions, just so I could walk past him
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  with my butt showing to get the lotions. So I
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  go get the lotions and he's like, okay, like this lotion.
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  And then I took the lotion and he's like, squirted
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  on your hands and then massage clockwise on my back
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  cause I didn't know how to do it. And then
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  he's like telling me where he would like massage here
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  and hear the right to the left, down, more up more.
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  So I was just massaging and he turned and started
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  having a conversation, Oh what happened to Haley? And I'm
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  like inaudible my ex boyfriend in audible, what's your boyfriend's name, Zach?
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  And he was kind of questioning me, and then he
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  said he's like could you stop? I need to go,
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  And I just stopped and I'm like okay. He got
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  off the table, he put the towel over him, he
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  bent down, got the towel, and then he left the
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  room and you could hear him like, you know, you
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  could obviously tell what he was doing, just like question.
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  I don't I won't look at you, but do what
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  he was doing what you heard, I know, it's kind
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  of embarrassing. Answer he was making sex noises, you know,
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  Like I don't. They were very strange noises. That's all
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  I can say. Question okay, answer, I don't know how
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  to describe them. They were very strange. Question can you
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  imitate them? Answer? I don't. I don't want to make
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  a fool of myself. Question you won't. You're not making
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  a fool of yourself. You know it might say it's
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  sex noises. He may say I was singing. Answer okay.
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  He was like, then MP cuts her off, Pegan cuts
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  her off. I won't look at you. Go ahead. So
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  they go through all of it. She talks about. She says, yes,
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  groaning noises, that's it. Okay. That was really embarrassing. It
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  really was. He was making those kinds of noises. And
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  then he walked back into the room, took off his
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  towels again, laid back down on the thing, and then
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  he wanted the same kind of massage. But he was like, oh,
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  you was your inaudible a little bit more. Question you
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  were massaging his back? Answer? Yeah, And then he's like,
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  could you turn over for a second, go back out
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  of the room. He turned over and he said, Okay,
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  please massage my boobs. And then I was massaging his
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  boobs and he's like, he's like, oh, like as I
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  was doing it. As I was massaging, he was making
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  the same noises again, like oh my god, it's so
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  embarrassing to do this. Begone. I won't look answer. He
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  was going, oh, making those noises. And like five minutes
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  after that, he then he turned back around and he
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  started touching himself and I think the massage was like
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  half an hour, because I don't know the time. I
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  think it was a half and an hour to forty
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  five minutes. And then I was done. And then he
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  I think he was like a safe somewhere because around
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  us he didn't have his wallet or something. Because right
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  when we got out the door, he left to go
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  put the towel on again. And he put the towel
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  on again and went out of the room and he goes,
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  you can put your clothes back on. So I put
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  my clothes back on, and he walked right out there
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  like two seconds and then comes back like within two seconds,
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  and he's like, here's your money. And then he gave
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  me three hundred dollars and one hundred dollars bills and
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  they were like brand new because they had like one
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  crease in them, and that's when they folded in half.
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  And he said thank you for your time, and then
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  he left and he said, you can see your way out.
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  And as I was walking and I got lost because
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  there are so many different rooms and I got lost
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  walk back downstairs, and Haley was just smiling and giggling
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  like I guess it was what the lady was saying.
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  And then she looked at me and she looked back
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  at the lady and she's like the lady's like, oh,
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  by Haley because it was time to go, because I
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  guess because I was done. And then when we left
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  the same way we came in, and then Haley's like,
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  oh my gosh, Hailey goes, did you like it? Like
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  how much did he give you? How much did he
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  pay you? And I'm like three hundred, And I was
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  kind of like three hundred, Haley, because the girl was
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  like this, she was looking at me really weird. The
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  other girl that was with her, she was really quiet though,
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  and then she just looked at me really weird, like
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  she's trying to gaze into my eyeballs. And then we
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  went into the car. And we got in the car,
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  Haley's like, let me see what he gave you. And
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  then I showed her my three hundred dollars and she
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  was like, we're going to Marshall's and then give me
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  back my money and I put it in my back pocket.
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  And then she was trying to get me to describe
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  what happened. So I told her what happened, and she's like,
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  you could do this every Saturday. He's like so rich,
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  and I was just kind of like, yeah, we could.
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  And then she put the music on. And then when
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  we were leaving, the lady was walking outside and eye
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  in audible one of the cars really fast, but she
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  was going to the passenger seat and she opened the
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  door and then closed it. Pegone, what did Haley's friends say?
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  Did you say anything about it? She was like interested
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  in what happened, Like when we were talking. We got
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  into the conversation and she was like giggling and laughing
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  like I think I wouldn't say. I mean, I don't
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  know inaudible or not, but she was acting surprised, you know,
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  like giggling. She was just like giggling and laughing along
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  with Hailey, and then Haley goes on and then when
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  I was giving the guy the massage, she goes, I know, Hailey,
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  she's been working with me for a long time. And
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  then when I came back downstairs, Hailey goes, you only
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  paid me two hundreds, so pagone he liked you better answer.
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  I don't know, all right, So we're gonna wrap up
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  this episode right here, and in the next episode, we're
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  gonna pick up where we left off. All of the
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