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Joy Reid Says Trumps Win Was a Four-Year Insurrection · The Wes Carroll Morning Show

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  Speaker 1: The news, opinions, commentary, and interviews you need to start
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  Speaker 1: your day. You're listening to The West Carrol Morning Show.
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  Speaker 2: Wednesday morning, eighth day of January. I'm Wes, thanks for
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  Speaker 2: joining me midweek this first week of the new year.
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  Speaker 2: And we are getting closer and closer to the inauguration
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  Speaker 2: and things are heating up. You got Biden trying to
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  Speaker 2: see what the things he can hurdles he can create
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  Speaker 2: for the new Trump administration. And then you've got Trump,
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  Speaker 2: who is he wants to take over all sorts of
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  Speaker 2: places Canada, Greenland renamed the Gulf of Mexico to the
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  Speaker 2: Gulf of America. It's an interesting time. How much is
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  Speaker 2: you know, talking season how much is really things planning.
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  Speaker 2: This is not the first time he's talked about Greenland,
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  Speaker 2: because that goes back, you know, prior to the pandemic.
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  Speaker 2: There was discussion, I guess back in around twenty nineteen
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  Speaker 2: when he first started talking about that. He says, it's
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  Speaker 2: critical for you know, keeping the war on global terror
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  Speaker 2: and things. You got to have some protections. Greenland is
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  Speaker 2: the key and it's needed. Folks in Greenland saying eh.
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  Speaker 2: Denmark says eh. And then his son Donald Trump Junior
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  Speaker 2: visiting in Greenland, and a lot of discussion about that's
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  Speaker 2: all come back up again, but also this discussion about
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  Speaker 2: Canada fifty first state and all those sorts of things.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I don't know that one big new state,
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  Speaker 2: you know, it would as I think someone on Van
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  Speaker 2: Jones or somebody pointed out, it would be a really
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  Speaker 2: big blue state. That's what it would be. So I
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  Speaker 2: think some of that has to be thought out if
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  Speaker 2: they really want to do it. I don't see it happening.
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  Speaker 2: I don't. But we know that there's a leadership change
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  Speaker 2: coming in in Canada and it's you know, we talked
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  Speaker 2: about this yesterday as Trudeau ready to you know, he says,
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  Speaker 2: announces that he's going to be stepping down, and that's
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  Speaker 2: because the uh, the X man cometh like he was
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  Speaker 2: not going to be he was not going to continue
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  Speaker 2: to hold power there because there is a its own
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  Speaker 2: conservative wave coming and that's where things are eventually heading.
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  Speaker 2: And so with all the talk, all the conversation, Biden
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  Speaker 2: wants to you know, he's trying to stop any offshore
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  Speaker 2: drilling in the US. He wants to make it as
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  Speaker 2: tough as possible for drill, baby, drill, and slow things
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  Speaker 2: down as much as possible. At some point when you're
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  Speaker 2: just doing everything you can to look past asked the
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  Speaker 2: votes and the interests of the American people in the
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  Speaker 2: name of a very small group of people that you're
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  Speaker 2: trying to continually make wealthy. And I'm talking about a
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  Speaker 2: lot of the Green New Deal people specifically. Look, scientists,
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  Speaker 2: do you go science, you go do your thing. I'm
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  Speaker 2: not going to dispute the real science behind any of it.
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  Speaker 2: That's not what I want to do. I don't advocate
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  Speaker 2: doing that, but I do question, you know, the alarmists.
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  Speaker 2: I question the people that this is their cult religion.
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  Speaker 2: And I'll just point out to you that every time
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  Speaker 2: we have a cult religion that screams from the rooftops
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  Speaker 2: that the world is going to end and then it
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  Speaker 2: doesn't end, they typically lose a lot of their credibility.
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  Speaker 2: And I think part of that may be reflected in
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  Speaker 2: this election. I don't know, but I know that if
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  Speaker 2: this new administration is slowed down on being able to
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  Speaker 2: lower fuel prices, potentially lower price is in general that
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  Speaker 2: have been hiked up by inflation, decrease our ability to
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  Speaker 2: sell some of our natural gas to places like Japan,
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  Speaker 2: who really wants it, and you know, we have all
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  Speaker 2: these complications that are wrollong. Biden also says he wants
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  Speaker 2: to push some things forward to slow down and potentially
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  Speaker 2: make a path for banning cigarettes, which a lot of
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  Speaker 2: the folks at the Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms Department saying, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that would be great for the drug dealers. That would
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  Speaker 2: be great for the crime syndicates all around the world
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  Speaker 2: China and in Mexico and anybody that wants to bring
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  Speaker 2: much more potent illegal drugs into the forefront. I think
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  Speaker 2: we got And don't get me wrong, I'm not necessarily
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  Speaker 2: pro cigarette, but I'm pro freedom. And I think if
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  Speaker 2: I have to constantly and I don't really want to
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  Speaker 2: have to smell a citygarettes, they don't. I don't care
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  Speaker 2: for him. But it's it's not as prevalent anymore as
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  Speaker 2: just the constant smell of weed in the air. Again,
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  Speaker 2: I think that there's a lot of negative effects to
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  Speaker 2: weed that don't get talked about, and we've we've talked
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  Speaker 2: on this show about some of the connections to things
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  Speaker 2: like dopamine levels and increases in schizophrenia and things like that,
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  Speaker 2: so I think we just kind of let it roll
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  Speaker 2: overall kind of as a country, as a state. It's
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  Speaker 2: just sort of everywhere, and we just kind of go, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you know, here it is. People are going to do it,
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  Speaker 2: might as well just let them do it. I'm not
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  Speaker 2: advocating for, you know, throwing everybody in jail, because I
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  Speaker 2: don't know that that really had any positive effects on
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  Speaker 2: society in general. But as far as trying to get
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  Speaker 2: rid of cigarettes, you know, a good luck b I
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  Speaker 2: do think that there's a lot of a lot of
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  Speaker 2: crime syndicates with an eyebrow the air, waiting to see
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  Speaker 2: how all that plays out. I do want to talk
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  Speaker 2: this morning about Joy Reid on MSNBC. Is she one
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  Speaker 2: of the ones that had to take a pay cut?
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  Speaker 2: I think so there were some that had to take
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  Speaker 2: a pay cut. Joy Reid basically referring to this year's
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  Speaker 2: January sixth, this year's certification of the election and getting
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  Speaker 2: ready for the inauguration, she had a lot to say
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  Speaker 2: about the transfer of power that's begun as of January sixth.
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  Speaker 2: She says, this transfer of power was violent, and it
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  Speaker 2: was the most violent in US history. This transfer of
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  Speaker 2: power that started back on Monday, she said, I hate
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  Speaker 2: to be a fly at the picnic table, but you
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  Speaker 2: can't peacefully transfer power to an insurrectionist simply because it
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  Speaker 2: took them an extra four years to finish the job.
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  Speaker 2: This is from her show The Readout, and she highlighted
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  Speaker 2: clips from the Capitol and wanted to make sure everybody knew.
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  Speaker 2: She says that they were this January sixth insurrection. That
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  Speaker 2: we've all heard the label because it was intended to
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  Speaker 2: be a label to keep him from being able to
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  Speaker 2: run for president again. And she says that that was
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  Speaker 2: the beginning of this violent transfer of power that it's
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  Speaker 2: continued on for four years. She says it's a lie
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  Speaker 2: most Republicans and even some of the media want to
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  Speaker 2: tell you because it makes Republicans feel better, and apparently
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  Speaker 2: making Republicans feel better is really important. And she says
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  Speaker 2: that the lie is. She says January sixth, from that
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  Speaker 2: date forward, pretending that this is no longer. What today
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  Speaker 2: means is, to put it lightly, an insult to every
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  Speaker 2: cop that was injured that day, every terrified congressional staffer, remember,
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  Speaker 2: every Capital worker who had to clean up the feces
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  Speaker 2: the Trump mobs smeared on the wall into every decent
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  Speaker 2: notion anyone ever had about this country. That's what she
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  Speaker 2: says is a lie. And she basically says that as
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  Speaker 2: the riots being downplayed by conservatives was just a normal
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  Speaker 2: tourist occasion and really not that big of a deal.
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  Speaker 2: And she says it was a big deal. It was
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  Speaker 2: an insurrection. That word again, they like the word, the
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  Speaker 2: first violent sacking of our capital since the War of
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  Speaker 2: eighteen twelve. She says, Trump's second impeachment was literally for
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  Speaker 2: incitement of an insurrection. And the idea of forgetting that
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  Speaker 2: as if moving on and pretending there's no harm, no foul,
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  Speaker 2: and preparing to quietly reinstall the chief insurrectionists without comment
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  Speaker 2: is frankly a shameful idea. Okay, so a few things
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  Speaker 2: to break down. There's a lot that she said there. Oh,
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  Speaker 2: she also said, it's not a day to commemorate. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: we've got to do it because that's what some of
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  Speaker 2: y'all voted for or failed to vote and cleared the
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  Speaker 2: way for. But for God's sakes, let's at least have
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  Speaker 2: the decency and dignity to be a little embarrassed. And
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  Speaker 2: she referenced the Supreme Court saying the fact that so
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  Speaker 2: few voters found his actions disqualifying the Supreme Court Conservatives
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  Speaker 2: negation of the Constitution's insurrection clause so our shameless Chief
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  Speaker 2: Justice John Roberts could clear the way for this reelection.
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  Speaker 2: All of it is sorry, utterly shameful. All right, few
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  Speaker 2: things here. Just because you're accused of something, it doesn't
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  Speaker 2: mean you were found guilty of it. We should know
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  Speaker 2: that because that's one of the key tenants of the
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  Speaker 2: way our justice system works here. It's part of the
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  Speaker 2: rule of law that we live by. And impeachment is
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  Speaker 2: merely an accusation. It's a charge. So you can say
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  Speaker 2: his second impeachment was literally for the incitement of an insurrection.
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  Speaker 2: And let's just acknowledge. If we're going to acknowledge all
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  Speaker 2: of these things that joy Read seems to think are
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  Speaker 2: so important, let's acknowledge the fact that at the time
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  Speaker 2: we had Nancy Pelosi who basically was saying, we're gonna
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  Speaker 2: do this impeachment because we can. He'll be the first
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  Speaker 2: one to be impeached twice. That was the reason for
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  Speaker 2: the impeachment. The impeachment didn't have anything to do with
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  Speaker 2: the insurrection. A term that the media and the left
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  Speaker 2: pushed forward into this incident. Look, call it what you
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  Speaker 2: want to call it. Was it a scary moment and
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  Speaker 2: our history, Sure, because I don't think anybody really knew
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  Speaker 2: what was about to happen. But you're taking the words
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  Speaker 2: of the then president and saying, we know he meant
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  Speaker 2: for him these people to do this, We know what
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  Speaker 2: his intentions were, we can read his thoughts and minds.
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  Speaker 2: It's not something that holds up in court, and it's
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  Speaker 2: not something that is going to see the light of day.
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  Speaker 2: The impeachment was merely just we're just going to embarrass him.
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  Speaker 2: We want to hang him with two of these impeachment
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  Speaker 2: He's going to have to bear that two scarlet letters,
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  Speaker 2: if you will. We want to hang us around his neck.
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  Speaker 2: We want to say he was impeached for something that
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  Speaker 2: ended up being a complete lie and completely fake and
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  Speaker 2: it didn't have enough votes to actually convict him, and
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  Speaker 2: then to say we're going to impeach him again because
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  Speaker 2: we can. Dave Barry had a great line in his
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  Speaker 2: book Dave Barry Slept Here, a sort of History of
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  Speaker 2: the United States, where he said, this is the second
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  Speaker 2: time I referenced Dave Barry, I guess already in twenty
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  Speaker 2: twenty five. That's good, But he said, referencing the Adam
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  Speaker 2: bombs in Japan, we dropped our first bomb to end
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  Speaker 2: the war. We dropped the second bomb because we had
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  Speaker 2: another bomb. That's exactly how this all played out, because
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  Speaker 2: they had an opportunity to impeach him a second time.
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  Speaker 2: No president had been impeached twice, No president has been tried.
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  Speaker 2: There's no the proceedings that he went through, the indictments
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  Speaker 2: that he went through, the push to hang this felon
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  Speaker 2: label on him before the election, that the American people said,
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  Speaker 2: we don't care, we don't think this is real, or
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  Speaker 2: we just want to get the country back to some
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  Speaker 2: sense of order and common sense. And you can argue,
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  Speaker 2: well Trump common sense, but yes, people want common sense
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  Speaker 2: and that they want to know that there's consequences for actions.
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  Speaker 2: If someone robs a business, they want to know that
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  Speaker 2: that person might actually go to jail. They don't care
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  Speaker 2: about made up charges and accusations against a rival politician.
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  Speaker 2: That as much as everybody wanted to blame Biden for
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  Speaker 2: and technically as the president, technically as the candidate for
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  Speaker 2: the Democrat Party. Sure, Buck's got to stop somewhere. But
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  Speaker 2: we're learning now that he hasn't been doing anything for
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  Speaker 2: three years, So can you blame him for that? There's
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  Speaker 2: so much anger and just bitter vitriol. Can't believe Trump
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  Speaker 2: pulled this off. We had everything going against him. We
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  Speaker 2: stacked the deck as much as possible, and the guy
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  Speaker 2: dared to win again. They thought they had it stacked
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  Speaker 2: against Hillary. They really did. They thought they had everything
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  Speaker 2: that they wanted and it didn't happen. And then she
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  Speaker 2: starts throwing shots at voters who didn't turn out when
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  Speaker 2: she says that some of y'all voted for it or
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  Speaker 2: failed to vote and cleared the way, but have the
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  Speaker 2: decency and dignity to be a little embarrassed. I enjoy reach,
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  Speaker 2: should be embarrassed for this. I appreciate the strategy that
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  Speaker 2: she's going for, but it's time to move on. Most
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  Speaker 2: people have Most people are saying, let's just let's try
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  Speaker 2: to find the positives. Let's try to figure out how
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  Speaker 2: to work with the guy. And he's got four years
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  Speaker 2: and then he's gone. He's got four years and then
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  Speaker 2: he's done. You want to dig in, you want to
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  Speaker 2: fight him every inch of the way. Just make him mad.
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  Speaker 2: You've seen what happens when you make him mad, right,
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  Speaker 2: you understand. And you got politicians. You got people coming
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  Speaker 2: out originally people saying we're gonna fight Trump on the border,
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  Speaker 2: that are coming around and going, eh, I don't know
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  Speaker 2: if we're gonna fight him on this. We're gonna fight
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  Speaker 2: him on the border. No, maybe not, Maybe we won't
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  Speaker 2: do that so much. Maybe we'll try to work with him.
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  Speaker 1: Here.
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  Speaker 2: The governor of Massachusetts, Mara Healy said, will not cooperate
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  Speaker 2: with any mass deportation efforts. Now she's saying she hopes
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  Speaker 2: he gets the border fixed. You got Facebook and Meta
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  Speaker 2: Instagram saying we're gonna start trying to do things a
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  Speaker 2: little more like X. I don't know that they said
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  Speaker 2: it that way, but that's basically what they said. We're
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  Speaker 2: going to change the way we do fact checking. You
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  Speaker 2: got Mark Zuckerberg, you got Meta kinda trying to turn
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  Speaker 2: the corner here and go, maybe we need to stop
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  Speaker 2: digging in and fighting everything that Trump's gonna do. Maybe
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  Speaker 2: we should start trying to figure out how to appeal
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  Speaker 2: to everyone else. See, it's one of those things where
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  Speaker 2: when it feels like piling on people is effective and
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  Speaker 2: it seems fun. Everybody says, yeah, let's all pile on,
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  Speaker 2: let's dig in, and let's all pile on. And then
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  Speaker 2: the reality hits where it's, you know what, the piling
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  Speaker 2: on isn't necessarily working. And then people say, oh, so
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  Speaker 2: it's working to not pile on people. Maybe we'll go
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  Speaker 2: in that direction. And that's where it seems to be going, right,
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  Speaker 2: seems to be making a change, at least in that direction,
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  Speaker 2: at least for some. But you got the people like
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  Speaker 2: joy Read that are just going to dig in and
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  Speaker 2: they're never ever going to come around. They're just going
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  Speaker 2: to dig in and hold on for dear life, and
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  Speaker 2: they're hoping that maybe they'll get some sort of an
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  Speaker 2: audience back, because the audience at MSNBC, the audience at
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  Speaker 2: CNN is not there anymore. She just not can they
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  Speaker 2: come back? Of course they can. It's like a pendulum.
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  Speaker 2: Politics is like a penulum. There's always a chance for
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  Speaker 2: things to come back. It typically does. But she's got
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  Speaker 2: to hang on for dear life and hope that she
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  Speaker 2: on this. Typically we do have sing on a more
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  Speaker 2: of a national slant to a lot of the news stories,
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  Speaker 2: at least at the beginning of the show, and I
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  Speaker 2: wanted to mention this in here Weatherington's funeral service. And
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  Speaker 2: this is per Mark Rice at the Ledger Inquirer saying
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  Speaker 2: that First Baptist Church twelfth twelfth Street downtown at Columbus
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  Speaker 2: is where the funeral will be on Thursday tomorrow at
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  Speaker 2: three pm. There'll be a visitation that is happening on
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  Speaker 2: the same location at two o'clock, an hour before the service.
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  Speaker 2: So this coming from the McMullen Funeral Home and Crematory
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  Speaker 2: sharing that information. Weatherington was eighty seven years old, served
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  Speaker 2: as mayor two thousand and seven to twenty eleven, police
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  Speaker 2: chief eighty one to ninety five. And I'll just speak
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  Speaker 2: on a personal note, okay, And I'll be honest. You
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  Speaker 2: live in a city like Columbus up into a certain
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  Speaker 2: point in time, you don't necessarily pay a whole lot
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  Speaker 2: of attention to who the mayor is right, you get
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  Speaker 2: to a point where it's kind of off the radar
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  Speaker 2: a bit. So he was one of the first mayors
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  Speaker 2: that I really paid any attention to, just being honest
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  Speaker 2: as a young man and serving from seven to twenty eleven,
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  Speaker 2: so that was a time when I was getting started
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  Speaker 2: really in news talk radio. We had him in the
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  Speaker 2: studio a number of times. He was always a kind man, always,
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  Speaker 2: you know, when you spoke with him, you felt like
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: you were talking to him and he was listening to you.
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  Speaker 2: And had some great conversations with him, even him entertaining
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  Speaker 2: some of my silly theories and ideas that I had
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  Speaker 2: that as I'm prone to have as far as from
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  Speaker 2: a conversational standpoint. But yeah, just one of those public
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  Speaker 2: servants that you know. I know there's probably people who
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  Speaker 2: maybe didn't care for him as a mayor. I don't
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  Speaker 2: think there's many of those people. I haven't heard many
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  Speaker 2: people speak ill of him in his time as police
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  Speaker 2: chief and mayor. But yes, coming up on Thursday the ninth,
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  Speaker 2: that is the funeral service three o'clock First Baptist Church
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  Speaker 2: to twelve twelfth Street in downtown Columbus. Wanted to pass
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  Speaker 2: that along and very sad to learn about his passing.
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  Speaker 2: All right, let's move on speaking of silly things, right,
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  Speaker 2: And I'm telling you, you know, I say silly things sometimes,
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: and this is kind of one of those things. But
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: it's a real thing, and it's just a conversation topic
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: that I want to discuss. Do you carry spare underwear?
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: Some people do this. Apparently a lot more people than
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: I would have thought do this. A survey found that
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: nearly half of respondents keep back up underwear with them.
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: Seventy percent of those who carry the spare underwear have
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: had them come to the rescue. Younger generations leading the charge,
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: sixty percent of Gen Z fifty seven percent of millennials
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: keeping back up underwear just in case. The study also
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: revealed that most people think underwear should be replaced every
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: two years, but some hold onto theirs for much longer. Hey,
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: if they still fit, they still do their job. You
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  Speaker 2: know why I throw them out? There's no reason. I
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: think the people telling you to throw them away every
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: two years or part of the big underwear. You know,
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: you can't listen to big underwear. They want you to
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: throw them out and buy some more, all right, so
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: you maybe have new Year's resolutions. I hope you're still
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: going if they're important to you and they're good for you.
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  Speaker 2: They're not one of those silly ones like my thirteen
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: year old has tried to say, I want to eat
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: chocolate every day. So some people, I guess, have decided
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: that they want New Year's resolutions for their pets. Survey
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  Speaker 2: of pet owners found forty four percent of created resolutions
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: for themselves and their pets. Now here's the catch. Of course,
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: it ties into some of those good things, exercising more,
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: cutting back on treats, eating healthier. They also want to
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: spend more time outside, take better care of their help
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: throughout the upcoming year. Those are all good things. Those
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: are good things that you want to do with your pet.
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: You want to do it for yourself, and then you
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: also want to do it for your pet, so it
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: makes sense that you would want to share that with them.
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: That's a good thing. That'll do it for this Wednesday
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  Speaker 2: edition of the show. Thanks to our sponsors and patrons.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you for listening. I'll catch you back here tomorrow morning.
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