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- 0:00Speaker 1: Section fifty nine of Discourses of Epictetus by Epictetus, translated
- 0:06Speaker 1: by George Long. This LibriVox recording is in the public domain.
- 0:11Speaker 1: Read by Christine Rocker, March twenty third, twenty twenty two, Westford, Massachusetts,
- 0:17Speaker 1: Book three, Chapter three. What is the matter on which
- 0:21Speaker 1: a good man should be employed? And in what we
- 0:24Speaker 1: ought chiefly to practice ourselves? The material for the wise
- 0:29Speaker 1: and good man is his own ruling faculty, and the
- 0:32Speaker 1: body is the material for the physician, and the allptus.
- 0:36Speaker 1: The man who oils persons the land is the matter
- 0:41Speaker 1: for the husbandman. The business of the wise and good
- 0:45Speaker 1: man is to use appearances conformably to nature. And as
- 0:49Speaker 1: it is the nature of every soul to assent to
- 0:52Speaker 1: the truth, to dissent from the false, and to remain
- 0:56Speaker 1: in suspense as to that which is uncertain, so oh,
- 1:00Speaker 1: it is its nature to be moved towards the desire
- 1:04Speaker 1: of the good, and to aversion from the evil. And
- 1:08Speaker 1: with respect to that which is neither good nor bad,
- 1:11Speaker 1: it feels indifferent. For as the money changer banker is
- 1:15Speaker 1: not allowed to reject Caesar's coin, nor the seller of herbs.
- 1:21Speaker 1: But if you show the coin, whether he chooses or not,
- 1:24Speaker 1: he must give up what is sold for the coin.
- 1:27Speaker 1: So it is also in the matter of the soul.
- 1:30Speaker 1: When the good appears, it immediately attracts to itself. The
- 1:35Speaker 1: evil repels from itself. But the soul will never reject
- 1:39Speaker 1: the manifest appearance of the good anymore than persons will
- 1:43Speaker 1: reject Caesar's coin. And this principle depends every movement, both
- 1:48Speaker 1: of man and God. For this reason, the good is
- 1:51Speaker 1: preferred to every intimate relationship obligation. There is no intimate
- 1:56Speaker 1: relationship between me and my father, but there is between
- 2:00Speaker 1: me and the good. Are you so hard hearted? Yes?
- 2:04Speaker 1: For such is my nature, and this is the coin
- 2:07Speaker 1: which God has given me. For this reason. If the
- 2:10Speaker 1: good is something different from the beautiful and the just,
- 2:13Speaker 1: both father is gone neglected, and brother and country and everything.
- 2:19Speaker 1: But shall I overlook my own good in order that
- 2:22Speaker 1: you may have it? And shall I give it up
- 2:25Speaker 1: to you? Why? I am your father, but you are
- 2:29Speaker 1: not my good. I am your brother, but you are
- 2:32Speaker 1: not my good. But if we place the good in
- 2:35Speaker 1: a right determination of the will, the very observance of
- 2:39Speaker 1: the relations of life is good. And accordingly, he who
- 2:43Speaker 1: gives up any external things, obtains that which is good.
- 2:47Speaker 1: Your father takes away your property, but he does not
- 2:50Speaker 1: injure you. Your brother will have the greater part of
- 2:53Speaker 1: the estate in land. Let him have as much as
- 2:56Speaker 1: he chooses. Will he then have a greater share of modesty,
- 3:00Speaker 1: of fidelity, of brotherly affection. For who will eject you
- 3:05Speaker 1: from this possession? Not even zeus, for neither has he
- 3:09Speaker 1: chosen to do so. But he has made this in
- 3:12Speaker 1: my own power, and he has given it to me,
- 3:15Speaker 1: just as he possessed it himself, free from hindrance, compulsion,
- 3:20Speaker 1: and impediment. When then, the coin which another uses is
- 3:24Speaker 1: a different coin. If a man presents this coin, he
- 3:27Speaker 1: receives that which is sold for it. Suppose that there
- 3:31Speaker 1: comes into the province a thievish proconsul. What coin does
- 3:36Speaker 1: he use? Silver coin? Show it to him and carry
- 3:40Speaker 1: off what you please. Suppose one comes who is an adulterer,
- 3:45Speaker 1: What coin does he use? Little girls? Take a man,
- 3:49Speaker 1: says the coin, and sell me the small thing. Give,
- 3:53Speaker 1: says the seller, and buy what you want. Another is
- 3:57Speaker 1: eager to possess boys. Give him the coin and receive
- 4:01Speaker 1: what you wish. Another is fond of hunting. Give him
- 4:05Speaker 1: a fine nag or a dog. Though he groans and laments,
- 4:09Speaker 1: he will sell for it that which you want for
- 4:12Speaker 1: another compels him from within he who has fixed determined
- 4:17Speaker 1: this coin against or with respect to this kind of thing.
- 4:22Speaker 1: Chiefly a man should exercise himself as soon as you
- 4:25Speaker 1: go out in the morning, examine every man whom you see,
- 4:29Speaker 1: every man whom you hear. Answer as to a question,
- 4:33Speaker 1: what have you seen a handsome man or woman? Apply
- 4:36Speaker 1: the rule? Is this independent of the will? Or dependent? Independent?
- 4:42Speaker 1: Take it away? What have you seen a man lamenting
- 4:46Speaker 1: over the death of a child? Apply the rule? Death
- 4:50Speaker 1: is a thing independent of the will? Take it away?
- 4:54Speaker 1: Has the proconsul met you? Apply the rule? What kind
- 4:58Speaker 1: of thing is the proconsul's offen? Independent of the will?
- 5:02Speaker 1: Or dependent on it? Independent? Take this away? Also, it
- 5:07Speaker 1: does not stay in examination. Cast it away. It is
- 5:11Speaker 1: nothing to you. If we practiced this and exercised ourselves
- 5:15Speaker 1: in it daily from morning to night, something indeed would
- 5:19Speaker 1: be done. But now we are forthwith caught half asleep
- 5:23Speaker 1: by every appearance. And it is only if, ever, that
- 5:27Speaker 1: in the school we are roused a little. Then when
- 5:30Speaker 1: we go out, if we see a man lamenting, we
- 5:32Speaker 1: say he is undone. If we say a council, we
- 5:36Speaker 1: say he is happy. If we see an exiled man,
- 5:40Speaker 1: we say he is miserable. If we see a poor man,
- 5:44Speaker 1: we say he is wretched. He has nothing to eat.
- 5:48Speaker 1: We ought, then, to eradicate these bad opinions, And to
- 5:51Speaker 1: this end we should direct all our efforts. For what
- 5:55Speaker 1: is weeping and lamenting opinion? What is bad fortune? Opinion?
- 6:01Speaker 1: What is civil sedition? What is divided opinion? What is blame?
- 6:06Speaker 1: What is accusation? What is impiety? What is trifling? All
- 6:11Speaker 1: these things are opinions and nothing more, And opinions about
- 6:15Speaker 1: things independent of the will, as if they were good
- 6:18Speaker 1: and bad. Let me in transfer these opinions to things
- 6:22Speaker 1: dependent on the will, and I engage for him that
- 6:25Speaker 1: he will be firm and constant. Whatever may be the
- 6:29Speaker 1: state of things around him, Such as is a dish
- 6:33Speaker 1: of water, Such as is the soul, Such as is
- 6:37Speaker 1: the ray of light which falls on the water. Such
- 6:41Speaker 1: are the appearances when the water is moved, the ray
- 6:44Speaker 1: also seems to be moved, yet it is not moved.
- 6:48Speaker 1: And when a man is seized with giddiness, it is
- 6:51Speaker 1: not the arts and the virtues which are confounded, but
- 6:55Speaker 1: the Spirit, the nervous power on which they are impressed.
- 7:00Speaker 1: If the Spirit be restored to its settled state, those
- 7:03Speaker 1: things are also restored. End of Book three, Chapter three,