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Ohio State Football Insider: Young Cornerbacks Standing Out · Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Buckeyes Tomorrow morning for Thursday, April ninth, I'm
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  Speaker 1: Gerderman here on the indoor field that what he has.
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  Speaker 1: Athletic center Buck I has just wrapped up for spring
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  Speaker 1: practice number ten. They got five to go, including the
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  Speaker 1: spring game, which is now like a week and a
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  Speaker 1: half away. Somehow, we're almost We're nearing the end of
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  Speaker 1: spring ball at a very rapid pace. One Wednesday, we
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  Speaker 1: got a chance to talk to the o'histed corners and
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  Speaker 1: the Ostate safeties as well as corners coach To Malton
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  Speaker 1: and safety's coach Matt Grey. You want to hear about
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  Speaker 1: the safeties, you can do that on the Buckeye Weekly
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  Speaker 1: podcast feed. On this show, we're gonna be talking about
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  Speaker 1: the corners and what we heard from Walton and Devin Sanchez.
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  Speaker 2: Who are the two guys we got to chance to
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  Speaker 2: talk to.
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  Speaker 1: And I know people are going, well, why didn't you
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  Speaker 1: get a chance talk chance to talk to Jermai Matthews,
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  Speaker 1: got a chance to talk to him earlier in the spring.
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  Speaker 1: So this is not like WHOA, what's going on there?
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  Speaker 1: Nothing to be concerned about. That's just that was the
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  Speaker 1: interview schedule. We just talked to him a little earlier on.
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  Speaker 1: Let's start with with Tim Walton. You were not over there,
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  Speaker 1: you were talking to matt Guror so I'll just want
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  Speaker 1: to run through some thoughts and you can you can
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  Speaker 1: share some thoughts here. A lot a lot of the conversation,
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  Speaker 1: Like you know, Devin Sanchez, you kind of know what
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  Speaker 1: you got with Devin Sentiz, You kind of know what
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  Speaker 1: you got with Jermaine Matthews. Some of the other guys though,
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  Speaker 1: who you know, the guys who are fighting for that
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  Speaker 1: third spot. Dom Kelly I was one of the most
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  Speaker 1: people I was most interested to hear him talk about.
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  Speaker 1: Said he loves the consistency he sees from Dominic Kelly.
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  Speaker 1: He of course, is the transfer from Georgia. Played one
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  Speaker 1: season at Georgia. He said it's been level headed and
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  Speaker 1: called him a smooth operator. He said, the nice thing
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  Speaker 1: is you know what you're going to get, and when
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  Speaker 1: you have a guy who you're bringing in, you know,
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  Speaker 1: that's that consistency that you know what you're going to get.
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  Speaker 1: It sounds so boring, but it's like, that's what they're
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  Speaker 1: looking for.
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  Speaker 3: That's a coach's dream. When you put a player out there,
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  Speaker 3: it's no mystery. And that's why over the years the
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  Speaker 3: coaches will tell you is he game ready? This guy's
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  Speaker 3: not game ready. And if they're not game ready and
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  Speaker 3: they have to put him in a game, boy, that's
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  Speaker 3: a scary situation. But with Kelly, the thing that I'm
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  Speaker 3: interested in seeing is say something happens to a corner,
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  Speaker 3: say something happens to Devin Sanchez, or say something happens
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  Speaker 3: to a safety.
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  Speaker 2: I guess is what I should say.
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  Speaker 3: And then you know, do you put Jermaine Matthews in
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  Speaker 3: the slot because you're confident in Dominic Kelly, or is
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  Speaker 3: it still a point where're like, well, we don't want
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  Speaker 3: to lose, don't take Matthews away from corner.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm interested eventually to.
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  Speaker 3: See like are they to that point where no, we've
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  Speaker 3: got three three guys that could all play. And really,
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if he was asked about this yet
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  Speaker 3: and it's kind of gone away. What about this three
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  Speaker 3: corner rotation? How you is there a potential for that
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  Speaker 3: as well? And do you need to do that anymore
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  Speaker 3: without the pace of play is in football?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, he was asked about moving Jermaine Matthews inside
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  Speaker 1: and if that was a possibility, because right now it
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  Speaker 1: seems like Earl Little is the guy who is getting
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  Speaker 1: the most reps at that Nickels spot and they consider
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  Speaker 1: him a safety. So you're going from a couple of
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  Speaker 1: years where it was Jordan Hancock who was a corner
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  Speaker 1: and Lorenzo Styles who's a corner, to now you've got
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  Speaker 1: a guy who you know in the line on his
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  Speaker 1: player bio says safety, but he's in that same kind
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  Speaker 1: of position. He said, they don't know yet about moving
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  Speaker 1: Jermaine Matthews inside. He said he's been playing both corner
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  Speaker 1: spots outside. They have been playing inside over the years,
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  Speaker 1: so you know, they they know they can just plug
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  Speaker 1: and play with him, and it just he said, it
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  Speaker 1: is just great to have chess pieces where it's like
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  Speaker 1: you know, they got to figure out what's the best
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  Speaker 1: you know, like much like we talked about with the
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  Speaker 1: offensive line, you find the best five and then you
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  Speaker 1: figure out how you align him up. If Dominic Kelly
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  Speaker 1: is ahead of where one of those safeties is, well
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  Speaker 1: then maybe that changes where or it's Cam Calhoun or
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  Speaker 1: it's whoever, but it you know, and maybe it's Jay Timmins.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe j Timmins works his way into that rotation somewhere.
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  Speaker 1: But you know, they're still sort of figuring it out.
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  Speaker 1: He didn't want to, you know, he didn't want to
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  Speaker 1: like dive in and I'm gonna ask him, like, well,
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  Speaker 1: if the season started today. They said, well, thankfully the
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  Speaker 1: season doesn't start today, so they don't have to They
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  Speaker 1: don't have to figure that out.
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  Speaker 2: Choose not to answer that question. Yeah, it is.
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  Speaker 3: Interesting to think about, well, we could do this, we
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  Speaker 3: can do this, We've got these options. We've got these options.
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  Speaker 2: Now.
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  Speaker 3: Go contrast that as you're watching Google Ohio states starting
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  Speaker 3: secondary in twenty.
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  Speaker 2: Twenty, make sure safe searches are in.
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  Speaker 3: Like twenty twenty one, because that's a far cry from
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  Speaker 3: where they are now to what they were then. When
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  Speaker 3: you're just putting guys out there hoping that this will work,
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  Speaker 3: knowing that it's probably not, and then Alabama knew that
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  Speaker 3: it was not in a twenty twenty National championship game.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, it's they've ohigh, State has come a long
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  Speaker 3: way and building back both rooms.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure.
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  Speaker 1: And I think Tim Walton deserves a lot of credit
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  Speaker 1: for that and Matt Greary deserves a lot of credit
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  Speaker 1: for that because they have lost guys even through you know,
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  Speaker 1: Tim Malton lost a couple of guys to the portal
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  Speaker 1: in Aaron Scott and Bryce West and really haven't missed
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  Speaker 1: a beat.
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  Speaker 2: Greary too, and Greory do as well.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know they you have They've brought some
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  Speaker 1: guys into the portal. You brought You've brought in some
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  Speaker 1: some talented freshmen and you know, so you've got they've
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  Speaker 1: just kind of kept things rolling there. Uh. Jay Timmins
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  Speaker 1: in that nickel position.
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  Speaker 2: Uh.
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  Speaker 1: Tim Walton said he's very competitive, has a great skill set,
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  Speaker 1: great hip fluidity, very poised, and takes coaching well. And
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  Speaker 1: that's that's one of those things where you want to
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  Speaker 1: of all the stuff I've listed there, like those are
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  Speaker 1: all good things. Takes coaching well is for a coach,
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  Speaker 1: maybe the most important of those, because then the growth
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  Speaker 1: comes so much faster if you come in with fluid hips.
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  Speaker 1: But you're not taking coaching well, it's going to take
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  Speaker 1: you a while to get.
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  Speaker 2: On the field. And it's not just taking it well,
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  Speaker 2: it's using it well. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Taking it well is like Okay, I don't put up
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  Speaker 3: a fight and I just just you know, it could
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  Speaker 3: just wash right over.
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  Speaker 2: Well, he's sure. He sure does take coaching well, it's.
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  Speaker 3: Just like just goes right over. But you take it,
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  Speaker 3: you put it on the field. You can take it
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  Speaker 3: from the classroom to the field. And what they try
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  Speaker 3: to suss that out and recruiting big time as they're
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  Speaker 3: talking with players, talking with coaches, talking to as many
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  Speaker 3: people as they can when they're vetting these guys and
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  Speaker 3: Jordan Thomas j Timmins, the two true freshmen seem to
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  Speaker 3: be I have been vetted and are kind of what
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  Speaker 3: you're looking for what a coach likes well.
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  Speaker 1: And Walton said that even with Don Kelly, who went
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  Speaker 1: to Georgia, he said he knew him from recruiting, like
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  Speaker 1: he coaches said, coaches know guys like you get to
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  Speaker 1: know players a lot during that recruiting process. Guys coming
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  Speaker 1: to camp, how do you take coaching? Well, we're going
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  Speaker 1: to run you through the paces on one of those
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  Speaker 1: turf fields at noon on a sunny you know, a
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  Speaker 1: sunny ninety degree June day, and we'll see how you
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  Speaker 1: take coaching. Then when you've got Ryan Day standing there
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  Speaker 1: watching you, and the defensive coord and ender standing they're
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  Speaker 1: watching you and all that, how do you do with
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  Speaker 1: the You know, we're gonna we're gonna turn the pressure
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  Speaker 1: up a little bit and see how it works.
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  Speaker 3: And we saw that with Daraine Matthews as a recruit
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  Speaker 3: where they just they ran him and ran him and
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  Speaker 3: ran him and pushed him and you're seeing the results.
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  Speaker 2: Yep.
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  Speaker 1: He also said Earl Little called Earl Little outstanding. This
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  Speaker 1: is Tim Wolton called him a fireball. Say it plays
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  Speaker 1: the game you want to play it the way you
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  Speaker 1: want to play it and embracing the culture. And so
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  Speaker 1: he's moving around quite a bit. Jordan Thomas I asked
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  Speaker 1: him about him as well, said he's missed a little
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  Speaker 1: bit of time this spring, so he's sort of catching
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  Speaker 1: up there. But you know, when he was asked, what
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  Speaker 1: are you looking for in freshmen? Like Jordan Thomas and
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  Speaker 1: Jay Timmins. He said, guys who are very mature, guys
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  Speaker 1: who love to compete, very coachable, guys who can process
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  Speaker 1: the game, and guys where football is important to them,
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  Speaker 1: like football is a priority to them. And that's you know, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: they wanted to pay attention to clauses and all that
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  Speaker 1: kind of stuff, but they want this to be a priority.
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  Speaker 1: And it sounds like for both of those guys they're
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  Speaker 1: kind of checking those boxes.
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  Speaker 3: It's no different than any major or anything you're going
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  Speaker 3: into school, like if you're applying or I've got to
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  Speaker 3: write this essay, you know, I want to be part
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  Speaker 3: of this zoology.
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  Speaker 2: Do animals really matter? Do? Yes? They do? Show it,
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  Speaker 2: prove it, Like do animals matter? Team?
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  Speaker 3: I could take a relieve you're not getting in, you know,
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  Speaker 3: so it's like, can you take it?
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  Speaker 2: Do you like football? Eh?
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  Speaker 3: You know, like the idea of it, but you know
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  Speaker 3: you got to as much like they're always here.
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  Speaker 2: So if you don't love it, then you you're gonna
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  Speaker 2: learn to hate it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, And if you get to zoology and the list
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  Speaker 1: of majors, you're you're out.
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  Speaker 2: That's it. That's one.
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  Speaker 1: So you're maybe college isn't for you. Last thing was
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  Speaker 1: talk talk to Devin Sanchez a little bit. He said
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  Speaker 1: last year he was a little timid, he was nervous
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  Speaker 1: last year at times. He said that that's going now.
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  Speaker 1: He said that actually wore off kind of at the
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  Speaker 1: end of last season. He said, you got to a
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  Speaker 1: point where just I don't care who's in front of me.
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna just I gotta win this rep kind of thing,
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  Speaker 1: and going up against Jeremiah Smith, which you have seen
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  Speaker 1: some clips on social media of him going against Jeremiah Smith,
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  Speaker 1: and he said, I win some, he wins some, but
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  Speaker 1: it's just it is best on best and just this
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  Speaker 1: is the tony.
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  Speaker 2: What sharpens are iron? Iron? In fact, that is fat?
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  Speaker 2: That is correct.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, So this is one of these things you hear
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  Speaker 1: all the time, but something we feel like we have
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  Speaker 1: to talk about because it's you're not just doing it
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  Speaker 1: in terms of the on field, like who won that rep,
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  Speaker 1: but you're going back and forth and you're sharing like, hey,
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  Speaker 1: what did you see it when you beat me on
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  Speaker 1: that rep?
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  Speaker 2: What did you see? What?
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  Speaker 1: What was I doing that allowed that to happen?
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  Speaker 3: And you see that a lot on the practice field,
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  Speaker 3: where afterwards you've got defensive guys talking to offensive guys
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  Speaker 3: and yeah, it's it's arpening, sharing, sharpening herd, but also
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  Speaker 3: teaching each other, giving each other tips and you know
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  Speaker 3: if you would have done this or I would have
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  Speaker 3: done that, And that's that's a team that when when
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  Speaker 3: they're communication at all positions, but as a team it
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  Speaker 3: is pretty cool as well.
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  Speaker 1: Right, Communication, that's a major I can handle. So all right,
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  Speaker 1: so no more zoology. We're going to keep it nice
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  Speaker 1: and safe in the school of communication.
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  Speaker 2: I could take communication or leave it, really, So there
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  Speaker 2: you go. Quick update on the cornerbacks.
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  Speaker 1: You want to hear about the safety so you can
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  Speaker 1: hear that on the Bucket Weekly podcast feed. We'll be
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  Speaker 1: back in here on Friday with more interviews. I do
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  Speaker 1: not remember who we were talking to, but it'll be someone.
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  Speaker 2: Specialists, maybe somebody else.
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  Speaker 1: It might be a specialist Friday, so that'll be that'll
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  Speaker 1: be interesting. Get a chance to talk to Connor Hawkins,
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  Speaker 1: the new place kicker, as well as Robbie Disher, the
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  Speaker 1: new special teams coach, and Joe McGuire and probably probably
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  Speaker 1: other guys as well. So we'll be talking a long snapper, yes,
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  Speaker 1: get a chance to ask him about being named for
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  Speaker 1: first name for roadhouse, last name for lethal weapons, The Greatest,
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  Speaker 1: the Greatest eighties action movie.
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  Speaker 2: Uh well yeah, his middle name, you know what it is,
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  Speaker 2: Chuck Norris.
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  Speaker 1: Should be Chuck Norris.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, So there you go.
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  Speaker 1: Uh your update on Ohio State football and eighties action movies.
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  Speaker 1: You want to hear more about those two things, you
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  Speaker 1: can find us at Bucky Huddle dot com and at
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  Speaker 1: YouTube dot com slash Bucky Huddle. But I'll do it
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  Speaker 1: for today. Thank you guys all for joining us. Have
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  Speaker 1: a great day. We'll talk to tomorrow.