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- 0:00Allow me to ruin your Christmas. It's more than a suggestion. Actually, it's not a suggestion during
- 0:04this episode of your mic. It's the name of my third novel, which I published independently
- 0:10back in 2022. Now, what does my third novel have to do with your journey as a podcast host? Well,
- 0:18everything. Now for some context. I had written the book Allow me to ruin your Christmas as a way
- 0:27of hashing out some feelings. Some would probably say anger management issues after reading the book,
- 0:34which is now an audio book in the form of a podcast. Just search Allow me to ruin your Christmas
- 0:40on your favorite podcast app and boom, you can listen to it for free. So it was really I would say
- 0:47more along the lines of dancing with my shadow while also lampooning the stereotypical
- 0:56hallmark channel happy ending movie trope plug in a different geography plug in a different
- 1:03kind of character, but the plot is always the same. The guy gets the girl and it's a happy ending
- 1:10and everyone lives happily ever after blah, blah, blah, blah. So I had fun doing the exact
- 1:18opposite. And the result was a pretty fun thrill ride that got a little grim and gruesome and
- 1:28dark at times. Now back to the writing process. It was fun. However, the editing part, the part
- 1:39that came after the actual creativity. That's where your podcast journey comes into play.
- 1:46So if you were to treat the perfectly imperfect manuscript as you would your podcast journey,
- 1:55you would know that you're going to get kicked in the teeth quite often. Me getting kicked in the
- 2:01teeth would actually be my editor quite literally dying suddenly over the course of a weekend.
- 2:10And it was horrible. Somebody died. A wife lost her husband, but wait, the plot twists even further,
- 2:22because if that's not enough, his partner who's now tasked with editing all the books under their
- 2:29publishing house's name is locked out of his machine, not a password in sight, including my book.
- 2:39So guess who had to start all over when it came to editing allow me to ruin your Christmas. He did.
- 2:48And so me trying to be the empathetic guy was like, hey, this is really horrible and
- 2:55I don't feel right. You have with you having to start all over knowing how much it meant, how much you
- 3:04know your business partner meant to you. And this is all just a loss. He was one of your closest
- 3:09friends. And I just don't feel right doing this. And that's in addition to it being a lot of work
- 3:17having to start all over because there are all these projects that there are other projects that
- 3:20they're working on as a publishing house, an indie publishing house. And so this was me trying to
- 3:27lighten the load. And the answer I got was, well, we still need to push forward with a fall 2022
- 3:35release date. Otherwise, it's going to mess up the system with Amazon. And I don't know what I
- 3:40don't know. And of course, I didn't know that there is a process that it was going to get messed up
- 3:45and it would ruin their back end, whatever. And so I was thinking to myself, and of course,
- 3:51I was right in hindsight that this was not going to go well. And it didn't. The book was published
- 3:58with a few typographical errors. And after doing some podcasts, guest appearances, I had learned
- 4:07that typically a few errors is acceptable in the indie in the indie publishing space. And I will
- 4:16say as a reader of both indie and traditionally published books, I've actually read some books where
- 4:24that were traditionally published where there were more than just a handful of grammatical mistakes.
- 4:30It happens. We are perfectly imperfect people. So how does this relate to your creator journey
- 4:40as a podcast host? Well, you've got to prepare to be shocked and surprised when things literally
- 4:54go off the rails over the course of a weekend. And when you think that things could not get worse,
- 5:01there's another plot twist. And then there's another plot twist, and then there's another,
- 5:10and another, so on, and so forth. Listen, at the end of the day, somebody died.
- 5:17That somebody was my editor for the third novel, Allow me to ruin your Christmas. And not only did
- 5:23his business partner have to start all over again. The book was put out with a few errors.
- 5:34We could not delay the release. And then, and then because life is full of twists and turns.
- 5:43In 2023, I was dropped from the publishing from the publishing house due to poor sales,
- 5:57more twists and turns. How about literally two people showing up to a book signing?
- 6:04How about more than a thousand dollars in ads run and no more than 50 books sold?
- 6:14So really, the lesson here is, are you doing it because you're expecting an actual monetizable ROI?
- 6:27Are you doing it for fun? I was a little bit of both. I wrote that book out of the three. I wrote
- 6:37that book as like the one where I had the most fun writing. And I think it was because I, by that time,
- 6:45knew what it took to structure a novel and create characters and write in a first-person POV.
- 6:55I knew how to write in a way that would dazzle certain readers who were into that kind of a twisted
- 7:01plot. And so it was fun. It was less trying to figure out stuff and more about me ruining people's lives.
- 7:11Which is a very twisted thing to say. But when you're an author, when you're a writer of fiction,
- 7:15that's literally what you do. How can I torture people? Now, when it comes to your podcast,
- 7:20Journey, you definitely do not want to torture people. The process itself can torture you,
- 7:24which is why I'm having this episode and this conversation with you one-on-one is because
- 7:28the podcast journey, like an author journey, like a business owner journey, like an entrepreneurial
- 7:35journey, will no doubt kick you on the teeth over and over and over again. And when you fall down,
- 7:43sand is going to get kicked in the face, kicked in your face. And then after you get your teeth
- 7:48kicked in, you fall down and you get that sand kicked in your face, you're going to get punched in
- 7:52the stomach. And then someone's going to stomp on your kneecap. And then you're going to get up
- 7:58and you think you're going to be okay. And there's blood and sand all in your face and it's grimy
- 8:03and blended in together. And then you're on your two feet, but barely. What happens after that?
- 8:11What happens? You get clothes lined and you're back on the ground once again.
- 8:19It's not easy. Growing a podcast audience, like writing a novel, like building a business,
- 8:28is far from easy. It can be simple. It could be systematized. It could be monetized.
- 8:36Never is it going to be easy. And the struggle is always, always guaranteed. Even when you have
- 8:45something systematized, operationalized, there's always going to be something that will go awry,
- 8:58a botched recording, a battery dying out, and then realizing, oh crap, I don't have a spare
- 9:07battery. When you run out of memory on a card, when the internet goes out at your office or in
- 9:17your home studio, and you have zero control over that, when you're supposed to be recording,
- 9:24the only day of the month where you can get into the studio to record. And what happens?
- 9:31You get sick and you lose your voice. No control over that.
- 9:39Our journey as creators, whether we're podcasters who are also business owners and entrepreneurs,
- 9:45or for podcasters and authors, or what have you, is always going to be full of twists and turns
- 9:52and things that go wrong and things that don't go as planned. How we bounce back
- 9:59says more about our journey and who we are than our best piece of work. At least that's what I think.
- 10:10And I stand by my work. I'm just throwing it out there that maybe just maybe when things
- 10:20do not go well and things are messed up, how we get back up and how we adapt, how we overcome
- 10:33really tells the story of who we are and what we do and the meaning behind it.
- 10:42So this Christmas, this New Year's, I wish you all the best and in 2026, I am rooting for you.
- 11:00And I hope that whatever, whatever got in your head, whatever was living rent free in your mind
- 11:09in 2025 will be laid to rest in the upcoming year. Really appreciate you listening.
- 11:18And if you have found this story, the story of allow me to ruin your Christmas, if you found it
- 11:24useful or insightful, please feel free to share with the podcast host in your life. Until then,
- 11:31keep your mic hot.