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- 0:00Speaker 1: Quite some time, and he has attempted to use loopholes
- 0:05and technicalities to get it tossed. Thankfully, Judge Kaplan is
- 0:11not having it, and Prince Andrew is going to have
- 0:14to answer these accusations in a court of law. Now,
- 0:18of course, this is not a criminal case, right, so
- 0:21it's not like he's going to go to prison because
- 0:23of this. But at the very least he's being held
- 0:27responsible in some aspect of justice here, as opposed to
- 0:34him just sliding underneath the radar and never being held
- 0:39to account. At the very least, the spotlights being put
- 0:43on him, and people who might not have been aware
- 0:46of what was going on are going to become aware
- 0:49of what's going on very quickly, just like with Epstein
- 0:52and then the Maxwell trial. How many folks out there
- 0:55had no idea what was really going on with these two.
- 0:59I'm guessing a lot of people, and I'm guessing a
- 1:01lot of people that found their way to this podcast.
- 1:05I've got a lot of emails from a lot of
- 1:08listeners who really had no idea the true scope of
- 1:11what was going on here. You know, they heard the
- 1:13rumors and the innuendo, and then of course some of
- 1:16the more batshit crazy conspiracy theory stuff, and you know,
- 1:21that drives people away. They're like, oh, the whole thing's
- 1:23a conspiracy theory. But then they start to get some
- 1:27real information about what went on here, information backed up
- 1:31with sources from the media such as I DO, or
- 1:34with court documentation or whatever, and people start to realize
- 1:38that this was never a conspiracy theory. This was a
- 1:42criminal conspiracy from the very beginning. And somebody like Prince Andrew,
- 1:48of his status, of his wealth, of his power, being
- 1:52involved with someone like Jeffrey Epstein and Glenn Maxwell. It
- 1:57would seem absurd to people who are not following some
- 2:00thing like this closely. But the reality of the situation
- 2:03is the reality of life these so called elites. It
- 2:08seems like all of them are wired incorrectly and that
- 2:11all of them are fed up. Once you get a
- 2:15certain amount of money, you automatically become some kind of
- 2:17robber baron. It would seem now, when I talk about
- 2:21the rich, I'm not talking about people that are making
- 2:24you know, a couple of million dollars or anything like that.
- 2:27I'm talking about generational wealth, the kind of wealth you
- 2:31see with these hedge fund type people with the Maxwells
- 2:35of the world. Those are the uber elite, the super elite,
- 2:40not what I call the working rich. The working rich
- 2:43are the people who might have accumulated a few million
- 2:45dollars throughout their years of working. But they're not part
- 2:48of the party either, and they're not invited up to
- 2:52the top floor, no more than you or I are welcome.
- 2:58So when I talk about the rich, I'm talking about,
- 3:00you know, the Trumpian class of rich, the billions when
- 3:03you have that be after your name, even the hundreds
- 3:06of millions, right, These people are they're all wired funny.
- 3:10And then they'll get up there and they'll talk about, Oh,
- 3:12I give to this charity or I give to that charity,
- 3:15and then you hear two weeks later that they were
- 3:18involved in a trafficking ring, or they were involved in
- 3:21nexium or whatever it is. The truth of the matter
- 3:27is that these people, the so called elite, the robber barons,
- 3:30the people in the financial sector, they don't care about
- 3:33any of us. And if you think someone like Prince
- 3:37Andrew cares about, you know, the most vulnerable amongst us,
- 3:42or the poor or the downtrodden, he doesn't care. All
- 3:46he cares about is enriching himself, increasing his wealth and
- 3:51continuing to you know, climb that social ladder that all
- 3:55of them are trying to climb. And if anybody thought
- 4:00he was ever going to take responsibility what he did here,
- 4:03I mean for what he did here of his own accord,
- 4:05you weren't paying attention. I saw someone post earlier on
- 4:10Twitter talking about how it's time for Prince Andrew to
- 4:13hire some lawyers that are going to try and ruin
- 4:16Virginia Roberts breaking news, dumbass, He's already done that. What
- 4:21do you think Brettler is? What do you think Marty Singer?
- 4:23In the firm that they work at and that Marty
- 4:26Singer owns, does they specialize in this? I uploaded two episodes,
- 4:34one about both about Marty Singer, excuse me and Prince
- 4:37Andrew Episode one and two. Episode one will be uploaded
- 4:44at eight thirty and then episode two will come after that.
- 4:48But it's a look back episode of when Prince Andrew
- 4:52first announced that he was hiring Brettler and what my
- 4:55response to it all was. I knew exactly what the
- 4:58strategy was going to be then, because that's the kind
- 5:01of lawyers that these dudes are so there's so many
- 5:05people who have no idea about this case but who
- 5:08like to interject themselves into it. It's so beyond odd
- 5:12to me, Like, if you don't know about something, why
- 5:15are you popping off about it? You know, one thing
- 5:19I've learned in my forty one years on this planet
- 5:22is that I don't know anything. Barely know my name
- 5:26at half the time. Never mind you know, thinking I
- 5:28know everything about everything. But Prince Andrew hiring these lawyers
- 5:36signaled right away what his strategy was going to be,
- 5:39and this ruling today from Judge Caplan is also signaling
- 5:43that this strategy might not be the best one for
- 5:46him and might not be the way to victory. In fact, honestly,
- 5:51I don't think there is a way to victory for
- 5:53this dude. I think that he's going to have to
- 5:59pay up civilly here. There's going to be a judgment
- 6:01against him one way or the other. If it ever
- 6:04comes down, if he ever at pays it, that's a
- 6:06whole other matter. But I think the judgment eventually is
- 6:09going to go against him, and as far as criminally speaking,
- 6:14I highly doubt it. But this is this signals bad
- 6:18news for his civil case here with Judge Kaplan already
- 6:23basically saying, look, this getting off on the technicality stuff
- 6:26isn't going to work. You're going to have to prove
- 6:29it in the court of law and prove the merits
- 6:32of what you're saying here. So let's jump into this
- 6:35article from CNN and let's see what Eric Levinson and
- 6:40Lauren de Valley have to say. Headline. Judge rules sexual
- 6:46assault lawsuit against Prince Andrew can move ahead. A federal
- 6:52judge in New York on Wednesday denied a motion to
- 6:55dismiss laws a lawsuit against Prince Andrew filed by Virginia Roberts,
- 7:00who alleges she was sexually trafficked to the Royal when
- 7:03she was underage. Now, all of this alleges and this
- 7:07that the other thing. That's fine and well, when we're
- 7:09talking about the situation with Andrew, nothing has been proved.
- 7:12It has been proved in court, right, so of course
- 7:15it's alleged. But when we talk about Jeffrey Epstein, I
- 7:19don't know why they still say one of his accusers
- 7:22pretty obvious that Jeffrey Epstein did what these girls are
- 7:26saying to them, It's pretty obvious. He did it, or
- 7:29the estate wouldn't pay out all that money. He wouldn't
- 7:32have gotten arrested the second time. Maxwell wouldn't be indicted.
- 7:36You pick up what I'm putting down here, folks. So
- 7:38there's no alleged when it comes to Jeffrey Epstein. Come on,
- 7:41that's ridiculous. Miss Roberts's complaint is neither unintelligible, nor vague
- 7:47nor ambiguous. Judge Lewis Kaplan wrote in the ruling, it
- 7:51alleges discrete incidents of sexual abuse and particular circumstances at
- 7:56three identified and identifiable locations identifies to whom it attributes
- 8:01that sexual abuse. So basically, Caplin is saying there's grounds here,
- 8:07there is grounds here. She is saying that the exact
- 8:09spots where it took place, she's saying that the locations
- 8:14are identifiable, and she's identifying whom it happened with. So
- 8:20I don't know how anyone who's looking at this from
- 8:23a non biased view like a judge should be, could say, Ah, yeah,
- 8:28I'm gonna dismiss this. There's nothing there. And the fact
- 8:31that Andrew's two thousand dollars an hour lawyers thought that
- 8:34this strategy was gonna work is It's just crazy to me.
- 8:39It is just crazy to me that they can't read
- 8:41the temperature of the room. At this point, still Roberts
- 8:46alleged in the lawsuit that the late financier, the late financier.
- 8:50That's what they're still calling this guy, the late financier.
- 8:53But if it was one of their political opponents, they'd
- 8:56be calling him, you know, Himmler or or some other
- 9:00crazy insert name here. You see what they do, folks.
- 9:03They pick and choose what they want to pour down
- 9:07your throat, and they act like attacking their political opponents
- 9:11is more important than you know, naming Jeffrey Epstein for
- 9:14what he is, the late financier. What are you going
- 9:16to offend Jeffrey Epstein? What's he going to come back
- 9:19from the dead and sue you. Let's just call the
- 9:22guy what he is, okay, A pedophile, a human trafficker,
- 9:25a piece of trash, you know, all of that works.
- 9:29Trafficker enforced her to have sex with his friends, including
- 9:32the Prince, and that Andrew was aware she was underage
- 9:35seventeen in the US at the time. She alleges the
- 9:39Prince sexually abused her at Epstein's private island in the
- 9:42US Virgin Islands, at his mansion in Manhattan, and at
- 9:45his former girlfriend, co conspirator, fellow human trafficker, general all
- 9:51around scuzbag and bipudal serpent, Glene Maxwell's home in London.
- 9:58Prince Andrew has denied the allegation and had moved to
- 10:02dismiss the suit. CNN has reached out to his attorneys
- 10:05for further comment. You know, they're not going to comment.
- 10:08They have nothing to say. They don't want to say
- 10:10anything because they know the deal. What can they possibly
- 10:13say at this point that is going to help their cause.
- 10:17Everything they say they've said in the courtroom already, and
- 10:20it's not good. They're not out here to try and
- 10:24win a pr battle anymore. It's a hatchet job. That's
- 10:28why Brettler was hired. The ruling sets up a dramatic
- 10:32series of legal proceedings for Queen Elizabeth the Second's third
- 10:35child that could have major ramifications for Buckingham Palace. The
- 10:40long running allegations against Andrew sixty one have already dramatically
- 10:44tarnished his public standing, and he stepped back from royal
- 10:48duties in late twenty nineteen. Or did he they gave
- 10:53that perception, but it sure seems to me like he
- 10:55was still, you know, hanging out around Balmoral, hanging out
- 11:00with Mom. What did he really have taken from him?
- 11:03Some of those patronages still can come up with enough
- 11:06money to spend two grand an hour for lawyers. Right,
- 11:10Oh yeah, I know, I know Mom's not paying for that,
- 11:13right stop it. You know that the Queen is paying
- 11:16for his legal fees one way or the other. And
- 11:19you know that if there was a settlement here, she'd
- 11:21be paying for that as well. Andrew has until July
- 11:25fourteenth to potentially answer questions about the case under oath
- 11:28following a ruling made by Kaplan last year. If the
- 11:31case is not settled, Prince Andrew could face a trial
- 11:34date between September and December of twenty twenty two. So
- 11:40obviously not anytime soon soon, but it is on the horizon,
- 11:45and you know it's going to be keeping Uncle Touchy
- 11:47up that night sweating, even though he says he can't.
- 11:51This guy is really dug himself a hole, hasn't he?
- 11:55Going on to that Emily Maitliss interview was one of
- 11:58the worst decisions of this man's life. Well, besides, you know,
- 12:02hanging out with Epstein and abusing traffic girls, but going
- 12:06on to Emily maitlis As the show just made it
- 12:09so much worse for him because he can't even fall
- 12:12back on the I don't knows anymore or anything like that,
- 12:15because he was completely exposed in that interview and anyone
- 12:18who watches it can tell the dude's lion. It's not
- 12:21like he's up there being truthful with anybody providing receipts
- 12:25pointing to this or that to say, hey, look I'm innocent.
- 12:28You can talk to so and so. Has he ever
- 12:31done any of that? And you would think that if
- 12:33Buckingham Palace had evidence that would help exonerate him, they
- 12:37would bring it forward. I'm guessing none of that exists
- 12:40because when he was going to hang out with Epstein,
- 12:43I'm sure it was a wink, wink, nudge, nudge to
- 12:45whatever the security detail is to. You know, how about
- 12:48we keep this one off the books. Boys, let's keep
- 12:50this one off the record. Now. Do I have evidence
- 12:52of that? No? But you don't think that happens. You
- 12:56don't think these guys are buddy buddy with the Prince.
- 12:58You don't think his security detail wants to be boys
- 13:01with the prince, of course they do. Buckingham Palace declined comment,
- 13:07saying we would not comment on what is an ongoing
- 13:10legal matter, and that's been their approach pretty much throughout
- 13:14this whole thing, to not comment. But you would think
- 13:17that they'd come out and they'd show empathy towards the survivors,
- 13:20but they don't really care about that. It's all about
- 13:23protecting the firm, making sure the monarchy is protected, making
- 13:27sure the Queen isn't tarnished. Who cares about the girls
- 13:30that were abused by Jeffrey Epstein's BFFs, I mean by
- 13:34Prince Andrews BFFs. I mean, it's absurd, right, You would
- 13:38think that the monarchy, the Queen, they'd be coming forward
- 13:42and they'd be saying, look, we have a lot of
- 13:43empathy for what happened to these girls. We're gonna let
- 13:46this legal process play out and you know, we want
- 13:50everyone to understand that you know something, But no, it's oh,
- 13:54we have no idea, no comment. It's crazy. You people
- 13:58represent England and that's the you can do. Huh. Robert's attorney,
- 14:04Sigurd McAuley said the judge's ruling is another important step
- 14:07in Virginia's heroic and determined pursuit of justice as a
- 14:10survivor of sex trafficking. The civil suit stems from the
- 14:14sprawling and disturbing allegations against Epstein, the wealthy sex offender
- 14:19pedophile who befriended a series of powerful men despite a
- 14:23sketchy history, a group of powerful women as well. Let's
- 14:26not forget all of those powerful women that were around
- 14:29Jeffrey Epstein as well. Remember, folks, these everyone's a gray character,
- 14:34men and women alike, and Jeffrey Epstein sure had his
- 14:38collection of both. Ditney Epstein pleaded guilty in two thousand
- 14:43and eight the state prostitution charges, and July nineteenth and
- 14:47July twenty nineteen was indicted on federal sex trafficking charges.
- 14:52Prosecutors accused him of carrying out a decades long scheme
- 14:55of sexual abuse of underage girls, flying them on private
- 14:59planes to his properties in Florida, New York, New Mexico,
- 15:03and the US Virgin Islands. He died by suicide, allegedly
- 15:07in prison, before he could face trial. And it wasn't
- 15:10just him obviously, right, how about those pilots that were
- 15:13flying all those girls around, they just get carte blanche.
- 15:15They just get off because they go and give a
- 15:18few words at the trial. I want did they get
- 15:20an agreement? What kind of agreement did they get? Did
- 15:22they get clemency, did they get immunity for their testimony?
- 15:25Or did they just do it out of the kindness
- 15:27of their souls? Where were they after the first arrest?
- 15:31So what about all of the other people that were
- 15:33involved here? You know, you have sex trafficking and Epstein
- 15:37wasn't flying the plane, right, so everybody who was involved
- 15:41needs to be caught up in this net. Maxwell, his
- 15:46former girlfriend, a co conspirator, general all around scusbag and
- 15:50human trafficker, was arrested in twenty twenty and accused of
- 15:54facilitating the abuse scheme. A federal jury convicted her in
- 15:57December on five federal accounts, including sex trafficking a minor
- 16:02and conspiracy. Roberts was not one of the four women
- 16:06who testified Maxwell's trial that they had been abused. Still,
- 16:10she was mentioned in the trial when Carolyn, one of
- 16:13the survivors, testified that Roberts had recruited her to come
- 16:17to Epstein's home in Palm Beach, Florida. So again, I
- 16:21don't know how Virginia wasn't called at this trial. I
- 16:24don't know how some of the other survivors weren't called
- 16:27at this trial, but hopefully at the sentencing portion they
- 16:31will be called for those witness impact statements. Caplin's ruling
- 16:39Wednesday allowed the lawsuit to continue, but he did not
- 16:42determine the facts or validity of the case. So he's
- 16:45letting it continue, meaning he wants to see more. He
- 16:48didn't determine one way or the other what's true or
- 16:51what's not true yet, but there is enough there for
- 16:54him to want to see more and to get this
- 16:56ball rolling. The Prince's attorneys at argue that Robert's lawsuit
- 17:01violated the terms of her two thousand and nine settlement
- 17:04agreement with Epstein in Florida, in which she agreed to
- 17:07general release of claims against Epstein and others. That settlement,
- 17:12which was released to the public last week, shows that
- 17:14Epstein paid Roberts five hundred thousand dollars to drop the
- 17:18case without any admission of liability or fault. The Prince's
- 17:22name does not explicitly appear as a party, so again
- 17:26very vague. It goes against everything that Andrew was saying previously,
- 17:32so I'm glad that Kaplan recognized it as the bs
- 17:35that it is. However, Robert's attorney, David Boyce, argued the
- 17:40settlement is irrelevant to her claims against the Prince, noting
- 17:44Andrew did not know about it at the time and
- 17:47it didn't apply to him. In the ruling, Kaplan wrote
- 17:50that both sides put forth the reasonable interpretations of the
- 17:53settlement's meaning. So what that means is he wants to
- 17:56see more. He wants both sides to argue in front
- 17:58of him their case so he can get to the
- 18:01bottom of it. That's basically what Judge Kaplan is saying here.
- 18:05The agreement therefore is ambiguous. Accordingly, the determination of the
- 18:10meaning of the release language in the two thousand and
- 18:13nine agreement must have waited further proceedings, he wrote. Roberts
- 18:17broader case under the Child Victims Act, a New York
- 18:20state law enacted in twenty nineteen that temporarily expanded the
- 18:24statute of limitations in child's sex abuse cases to give
- 18:28survivors more opportunities to seek justice. Prince Andrew's attorneys argued
- 18:33that the law is unconstitutional, but the judge rejected the argument,
- 18:37citing another judge's analysis that this line of argument was
- 18:41creative but without merit. So again loopholes and technicalities. Oh
- 18:47the law is wrong. Oh, the law is unconstitutional. Not
- 18:51that I'm going to defend myself with evidence at trial.
- 18:54None of that what Roberts alleges and claims may. Prior
- 19:00to filing her lawsuit, Robert's alleged that in two thousand
- 19:03and one, Epstein brought her to London where she was
- 19:06introduced to Prince Andrew and went dancing at a nightclub
- 19:09with Epstein, Maxwell and the Prince. In a BBC interview
- 19:14broadcast in twenty and nineteen, Robert said she had been
- 19:17taken to the Tramp nightclub, where Robert's alleged Andrew asked
- 19:21her to dance and was sweating all over me. And
- 19:24now you know, Andrew says he can't sweat. He you know,
- 19:27he's not a sweater. He has a condition that makes
- 19:30it so he can't sweat. Who's ever heard of something
- 19:33so absurd? I know there's cases out there, right, but
- 19:36all of a sudden, Andrew's one of these people as well, right,
- 19:39He hits the lottery for genetics as far as being
- 19:43born a royal, and he just happens to have this
- 19:45condition too. Huh, the only one in the family with it.
- 19:52After Andrew has denied the claims, telling the BBC in
- 19:55twenty and nineteen it didn't happen. I can absolutely categorically
- 19:59tell you never happened. I have no recollection of ever
- 20:02meeting this lady, none whatsoever. Yes, see how the story
- 20:06has changed. Huh. Now it's wait, it's unconstitutional. Wait, wait
- 20:10a minute, Hold on a minute. I had no idea here.
- 20:12I'm protected. Oh, it's not that I don't know her.
- 20:15Because now at the trial, when he goes under oath,
- 20:18is he going to say the same thing he claimed
- 20:23in that same interview that he could not sweat due
- 20:26to a rare medical condition and that on the night
- 20:28he is alleged to have had sex assaulted. You mean
- 20:31with Roberts, he was in fact taking his daughter to
- 20:34a party at a Pizza Express restaurant and Woking, southwest
- 20:38of London. Imagine all of these scumbags using their kids
- 20:42and their families as some kind of alibi or a crutch. Oh,
- 20:46I was taking my daughter to get pizza. Meanwhile he's
- 20:48out molesting people and abusing people, absolutely disgusting. Robert's lawyers
- 20:56asked Andrew in court filings to provide documents proving both
- 20:59of those claims. Andrew's team responded that he was unable
- 21:03to do so because he has no documents proving a
- 21:06medical condition that prevents sweating and cannot identify anyone he
- 21:10encountered at the pizza restaurant. Now, remember he's super famous, right,
- 21:15if you were at the pizza restaurant that night, you
- 21:17would remember, if you know the queen's son was there.
- 21:20It would be like us going to a pizza shop,
- 21:23I don't know, a pizza hut and the Obamas are
- 21:25hanging out. You're gonna remember that. You mean to tell me,
- 21:28not one person remembers you at this party. You can't
- 21:31get one person to corroborate your story. Huh oh, yeah,
- 21:34we should all just believe you though. There should never
- 21:36be a trial here. You should never be deposed, not you,
- 21:40Prince Andrew, give me a break already. And thankfully, finally,
- 21:46after all this time, that's gonna change. And it looks
- 21:50like this dude's going to have to sit down under
- 21:53oath and answer questions, and we all know how well
- 21:57Andrew does when he's being interviewed. All right, folks, that's
- 22:03gonna do it for tonight. Tomorrow morning, we'll be back
- 22:06with a little bit more. Obviously we'll catch up on
- 22:09the Glenn Maxwell situation, and obviously tonight you can also
- 22:13expect more context episodes to see you through. If you'd
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- 22:36The link we discussed can be found in the description box. Folks.
- 22:40So the phone call took place today between Prince Andrew's representatives,
- 22:46his new lawyers that are based in Hollywood, and the
- 22:49prosecutors and the judge. And it looks like from the
- 22:53reports we're hearing that the judge wasn't having any of
- 22:56Prince Andrew and his legal team's nonsense. In fact, when
- 23:00it's so far as admonishing them for making things way
- 23:04more difficult than they had to be. Pretty much figure
- 23:10that would be the case. Right. Look, these judges, like
- 23:13I said, earlier. They're like feudal wards, right, you mess
- 23:18with these dudes, it's like going into a badger den
- 23:21and taking a whiz on one and expecting it not to,
- 23:23you know, go crazy on you. So with Andrew and
- 23:28his team all of the bluster about how they were
- 23:32just going to ignore all of this, we knew that
- 23:34wasn't gonna be the case, because being tried in absentia
- 23:39is never the proper route to go if you're looking
- 23:41to you know, prove your innocence. So I figured that
- 23:45they'd be ready to feel this call. But it's nice
- 23:49to see the judge giving them a bit of a
- 23:51slap here and telling them that he's not playing games
- 23:54pretty much no more. Bs. Let's get down to it
- 23:59is basically what the judge is telling them. So let's
- 24:03jump into this article from Law and Crime and author
- 24:06Adam Klasfeld, and let's see exactly what in the hell
- 24:10went on today during that phone call. Headline Federal Judge
- 24:16Skewer's lawyer for Prince Andrew for making service more complicated
- 24:21than it is. And again, it really that's really what
- 24:24it comes down to, right, this guy is ducking and
- 24:28dodging like rip Torrents throwing wrenches at him and he's
- 24:31in dodgeball, when in reality he should accept this summons
- 24:37and come and challenge these accusations in court. He's such
- 24:41a big, tough guy, right, He's such a war hero,
- 24:44such an honorable dude. Then what are you running for? Bro?
- 24:48What are you hiding out at your mom's house for?
- 24:54Don't make it more complicated than it needs to be.
- 25:02Prince Andrew has disputed that the woman accusing him of
- 25:05sexually abusing her as a seventeen year old served him
- 25:08properly with a lawsuit. That argument appeared to land poorly
- 25:12in court on Monday, when a federal judge signaled that
- 25:15this is a losing battle. Look, there was no doubt
- 25:19in my mind that this was going to be the result. Right,
- 25:24he wasn't going to get off on the service of
- 25:27this warrant. They weren't going to be able to use
- 25:32that as a way for him to wiggle off the hook.
- 25:36I was pretty confident that Boys and Schiller and the
- 25:40rest of the legal team would have been very thorough
- 25:43leading up to all of this. This is very high profile.
- 25:47This isn't something you throw together in a day or
- 25:48two right, and with the legal office. I am sure
- 25:52that this is something they've been preparing for for quite
- 25:54some time. So I am sure that they went through
- 25:57everything they needed to go through, you know, had a
- 26:00mock situation that they ran before them and came up
- 26:05with the best way to go about serving this guy
- 26:08that would have some weight with the court. It's not
- 26:12like they just woke up one day and they were like,
- 26:14all right, we'll show up at insert castle here and
- 26:18we'll just do whatever we want and say we serve them.
- 26:21There's a certain process that goes along with it, and
- 26:24those steps have to be followed. And according to this judge,
- 26:29those steps were obviously followed. And Andrew and his team
- 26:33are the ones playing games. You have a pretty high
- 26:38degree of certainty that he can be served sooner than later.
- 26:42US District Judge Lewis Kaplan told the Prince's lawyers during
- 26:45a telephone conference, let's cut out all the technicalities and
- 26:49get to the substance. He added, Man, is this judge
- 26:52hanging out listening to the podcast This me and this
- 26:55guy might be kindred souls. I am so tired of
- 26:59technicality when it comes to these trials and these situations.
- 27:03Of law. How about we get down to who's innocent
- 27:05and who's guilty. Shouldn't that matters? Shouldn't that be like
- 27:10the most important thing? But it's really not right. It's
- 27:13a game of technicalities and loopholes that these people are playing,
- 27:17and the one who's the most proficient at that, the
- 27:20one who is the most skilled at that, is going
- 27:23to be the best lawyer in the room. It has
- 27:25nothing to do with guilt or innocence anymore, and hell,
- 27:28maybe it never has. Again, I'm not some kind of
- 27:31expert in the field of you know, a judicial law,
- 27:36most certainly am not. But I'm also not going to
- 27:39be gas lit or bullshitted by these people. So when
- 27:44it comes down to this kind of situation, it's nice
- 27:48to see the judge himself bringing up technicalities and pointing
- 27:54out that he's not going to stand for it. Let's
- 27:57get to the substance, Let's get to the meat on
- 27:59the bone. Why are we dicking around around the edges.
- 28:07With that remark, the judge made clear that ducking service
- 28:10is not likely to be a successful gambit to avoid
- 28:14a lawsuit by Virginia Roberts, one of the most outspoken
- 28:18victims of the now deceased pedophile Jeffrey Epstein. And so
- 28:22this can only be considered a w for Virginia here
- 28:25in round one, right, So they're going to have to
- 28:29answer for this. There's gonna be no running, there's gonna
- 28:31be no avoiding the service. And if him and his
- 28:34law team don't show up to any of these trials
- 28:39or whatever, then this judge is going to render a
- 28:42decision in absentia and it's not going to turn out
- 28:45well for Prince Andrew. So, like I thought from the jump,
- 28:49old boy is over the barrel. And all of those
- 28:51people who thought, oh, because he's a royal, he's gonna
- 28:54avoid this, well, a lot of people didn't have any
- 28:57clue about what's really going on here. There are all
- 29:02sorts of different levers and methods put into place via
- 29:07treaties for these exact kinds of situations. Now, of course,
- 29:12him being a royal definitely throws a wrench into things,
- 29:16but obviously this judge and I'm sure other judges don't
- 29:20really care about that, and pretty much proving it right
- 29:24here by telling Andrew he's gonna have to answer for
- 29:26this in court. You're not gonna get off on this
- 29:28on a technicality. You're not gonna just push this away.
- 29:32You're gonna have to sit down, and you're gonna have to,
- 29:36you know, defend yourself here. Roberts alleges in her lawsuit
- 29:44that the Duke of York sexually assaulted her as a
- 29:46teenager in three places, Epstein's New York mansion and private
- 29:51island in the US Virgin Islands, and to Ques sex
- 29:54trafficking Gallaine Maxwell's London home. So Prince Andrew it wasn't
- 30:00a one time thing either, right, multiple times he's accused
- 30:04of this. You would think that a guy like Prince
- 30:09Andrew wouldn't need to be hanging out with Jeffrey Epstein.
- 30:15And furthermore, imagine Jeffrey Epstein or anybody showing up with
- 30:19their buddy Glaine Maxwell and some little young girl who
- 30:22looks like she's about oh, if you look at the
- 30:24picture sixteen seventeen, maybe they show up with her in
- 30:28tow and you're the Prince of England. You don't ask
- 30:30any questions. You don't say, all right, hold up, who's
- 30:33the kid? Guys? What's going on here? Is this someone's niece?
- 30:36What are you guys doing with this kid here? She
- 30:39on like a school field trip or something. Can I
- 30:41see her parents' release for him that's allowing her to go.
- 30:47I mean, nobody asks any questions with these all these
- 30:49young looking girls hanging out. Oh it's not my business.
- 30:53Oh it's not, bitch, it is your business. Do you
- 30:58think that if you're hanging out at the dope spot
- 31:00and it gets raided, you're not going to jail. So
- 31:03why should these motherfuckers be allowed to get away with
- 31:05enabling and in some spots even being an accessory. It
- 31:09would seem because the law is not put on the
- 31:15books for you or me. It's meant for people like
- 31:18Prince Andrew. It's meant for people like his whole circle,
- 31:21his whole entourage, all of his friends. Notice how long
- 31:26they were able to get away with the shit they
- 31:28were getting away with. Doesn't work like that for everybody else,
- 31:35does it. So again, it's nice to see this judge,
- 31:38at the very least make this guy wiggle on the
- 31:41hook for a little while. Maxwell, whom Roberts claim turned
- 31:50her into a sex slave, can be seen in the
- 31:52background of a photograph showing the Prince's arm around the
- 31:55then teenager's waist. Roberts made the same allegations against the
- 31:59Prince during her since settled twenty fifteen lawsuit against Maxwell.
- 32:05So this dude has been under the microscope for all
- 32:08of this time, right, everybody has at the very least
- 32:12gotten a whiff of what's going on, and still nobody
- 32:18has forced him to speak to the authorities. So that
- 32:20shows you what the royal family thinks about these survivors
- 32:23of sexual abuse. It shows you what the Queen herself
- 32:27thinks about these girls, and it's pretty pathetic. Sometimes you
- 32:34have a defective child, and the Queen most certainly has
- 32:37a defective child with Prince Andrew. Dude's head is not
- 32:40right hanging out with Jeffrey fucking Epstein after he was
- 32:45a convicted sex offender. Look, remember before you these guys
- 32:48can make the excuse, oh, we had no idea what
- 32:51he was, even though they did, right, but they can
- 32:54at least make that excuse. Afterwards, Well, that excuse goes
- 32:58bye bye. So there is no excuse for you hanging
- 33:01out with him at that point. But Monday's hearing revolved
- 33:08the less around the allegations of the lawsuit than the
- 33:11proprietary of US courts to hear the case at all,
- 33:15and that exactly was That was what the meat and
- 33:18potatoes of today was. Will this case stand on its
- 33:22own two feet here in America? Will this case be
- 33:26something that is worth the court looking at? That's what
- 33:29this whole entire thing was today. And it certainly looks
- 33:32like the judge is signaling that Andrew better bring his lunch.
- 33:38We believe that this is a baseless, non viable, and
- 33:41potentially unlawful suit, argue the Prince's lawyer, Andrew B. Brettler,
- 33:47a Los Angeles based attorney known for representing Hollywood luminaries
- 33:51accused of sexual misconduct. Look at this cast of characters.
- 33:55Armie Hammer, I mean, did his parents hate him? By
- 33:58the way, who's gonna last name's Hammer? Already? Now you're
- 34:01gonna name me Army dude who was bound to be
- 34:04a sickle from the jump? Huh? Danny Masterson another fine
- 34:08member of society, Brian Singer's gross disgusting close ass. Did
- 34:13I say gross enough? And then Brett Ratner as well, Boy,
- 34:17this guy has a nice stable, almost one to rival. Mister.
- 34:21I kept my underpants on Dershowitz. Huh, pretty nice? How
- 34:25that works? Look these lawyers. They're gonna do whatever they
- 34:29possibly can to make sure that this case does not
- 34:32go to trial. They don't want this in front of
- 34:35a jury or a they don't want that. Everything that
- 34:39they do, every move that they make, is to try
- 34:42and set this up as an illegal service of this
- 34:46warrant or the whole entire thing in general is illegal.
- 34:50All about technicalities. You notice nobody's running around screaming from
- 34:54the rooftops about how innocent Prince Andrew is. Right, where's
- 34:58his legal team with a presser talking about here's this evidence,
- 35:01that evidence, this and this and this is why our
- 35:04client is innocent. They can't even do that. They can't
- 35:09even bring that to the table and try and swing
- 35:11the narrative in their way. That's how hard or pressed
- 35:14they are here for the facts, and when the facts
- 35:17are in short supply, it's probably a good idea to
- 35:22keep you a yap shut. Robert's attorney, David Boys, insisted
- 35:28that the service was proper. We've proceeded to serve Prince
- 35:31Andrew in several ways pursuing to Article ten of the
- 35:35Hay Convention. Boys said, and that's what I was talking
- 35:39about a little bit ago. There's all kinds of different
- 35:41conventions that have been signed by a treaties between the
- 35:44United States and the UK and elsewhere obviously, but in
- 35:47this case, specifically between these two nations. And to think
- 35:53that David Boys and his team wouldn't know what they're
- 35:56doing here as far as making sure all their ducks
- 35:59are in a row and every things lined up correctly,
- 36:01I just that that was a step too far for
- 36:04me to take. I highly doubt that a legal team
- 36:08such as this is not going to have everything in order, right.
- 36:13So when people were talking about how it wasn't even gonna,
- 36:17you know, get by the judge, the judge is gonna
- 36:20get rid of it because it wasn't served correctly, I
- 36:23just I had my doubts that would be the resolution
- 36:26now from here. Who the hell knows, But I kind
- 36:32of figured from the jump that he wasn't going to
- 36:35be able to ignore this, right what I've been pretty
- 36:38consistent in that messaging. He can't just ignore this. He's
- 36:41going to have to face it one way or the other.
- 36:46That is the treaty under which Prince Andrew disputes service.
- 36:49But Judge Caplan skewered the Prince's lawyer for making matters
- 36:53more complicated than they need to be. And that's the
- 36:56mo of these guys right there, these high profile lawyers,
- 37:00they're looking to make things way more complicated than they
- 37:03need to be. The longer they can draw this out,
- 37:07the more chance that the prosecution's case crumbles. That's exactly
- 37:11how it always works with these guys, and that's what
- 37:14you're seeing here. They want to battle over technicalities until
- 37:17the cows come home. What they don't want to battle
- 37:19over is truth and lies. I'm sure you know that
- 37:27the Hague Convention is supplemental Caplin told Bretler, adding that
- 37:31he can order service effected upon a foreign national under
- 37:34federal rule for f three of the United States Code. Again,
- 37:41anyone who thinks that the long arm of the federal
- 37:44government can't reach out and touch you if you're in
- 37:47a different country, they are sorely mistaken. It all comes
- 37:51down to the will of the United States. If the
- 37:54federal government wants to pressure allies into turning people over,
- 37:58they're going to turn people over if they if they
- 38:02want to press their allies into getting statements, they're going
- 38:05to get whatever cooperation that they want. For the most part,
- 38:08but the caveat is does the federal government have the
- 38:13willpower to expend the political capital necessary to do so?
- 38:19And in this instance, I do not think that we
- 38:22will see that, right, the extra pressure, the you know,
- 38:27complete tightening of the fist, if you will, because I
- 38:31don't think it's going to be necessary. I think that
- 38:34Andrew is in a position now, especially now, where he's
- 38:38going to have to answer these charges, and all of
- 38:41the technicalities, all of the loopholes, all of the slippery
- 38:44slopes on Earth or in the universe aren't going to
- 38:48be able to help him from the eventual reality that
- 38:53the train of justice has left the station. That rule
- 39:00offers wide latitude for serving a foreign person by other
- 39:03means not prohibited by international agreement, as the court orders.
- 39:08Judge Caplan indicated that he would likely grant that order
- 39:11and is unlikely to change his mind on that front.
- 39:14So Judge Kaplan is looks like he's gung ho here
- 39:18on at the very least hearing all of the evidence
- 39:20in this case. And at the end of the day,
- 39:22that is exactly what you have to hope for. Right
- 39:24It's the first step getting this through. The first barrage
- 39:29of you know, anti aircraft fire that the defense is
- 39:33going to throw up into the sky. And thankfully, it
- 39:37looks like Judge Kaplan is seeing the bs here, has
- 39:40seen the nonsense and doesn't want to deal with it
- 39:43and wants to get right to the substance of the matter.
- 39:45What kind of evidence do you have, Let's see it.
- 39:47I'm busy, I want to go play golf. Me and
- 39:50the rest of my soul called elite buddies have a
- 39:52ten thousand dollars a day, a ten thousand dollars a
- 39:55plate function to go to. Let's go. Let's get things moving.
- 40:01So I don't think we'll see any sort of tom
- 40:05foolery going on here with this. Judge seems like he
- 40:08wants to streamline this and get it rocking and rolling.
- 40:13The Duke of York denies the allegations. For years, federal
- 40:16prosecutors in the Southern District of New York described the
- 40:19Prince as unhelpful in their investigation into the Epstein case.
- 40:24The district's former US attorney, Jeffrey Berman, released a statement
- 40:28declaring that Prince Andrew provided zero cooperation in connection with
- 40:33the matter, and when that happened, we discussed how irregular
- 40:38that is. That is not the kind of thing that
- 40:41the federal government usually does, especially in a high profile
- 40:44case like this. What it looks like is they were
- 40:48trying to leverage him. They were trying to use a
- 40:51public opinion in their favor to get him to start
- 40:54to yap. While it was a decent try, there's no
- 41:01way that this guy is speaking to anybody at this point.
- 41:07I mean, is there anybody out there listening that thinks
- 41:10he's innocent of these charges? And if so, look I
- 41:13would love to hear why you think he's innocent and
- 41:17see some of the at least circumstantial evidence that points
- 41:19in that direction. Because every path I take, every alley
- 41:25I look down, every trail I traverse, I come to
- 41:32the same destination. And that destination is this dude is
- 41:37guilty as fuck. His successor, current US Attorney Audrey Strauss,
- 41:44made a point to say that her office would like
- 41:47to have the benefit of the Prince's statement when Maxwell's
- 41:50charges were made public. Yeah, it would definitely help, right,
- 41:55And it's another reason why he didn't give that statement.
- 41:59Him and Glad and Maxwell are thick as thieves, aren't
- 42:01They real close friends and they understand that their fates
- 42:06are intertwined at this point, Andrew's more so than Gallan's,
- 42:11because Glane's already rotting in a cell. So I would
- 42:16not even think for a second that, you know, the
- 42:22old princely boy here is feeling comfortable. Maxwell's criminal case
- 42:29will go to trial in November inside the Southern District
- 42:32of New York, the same courthouse where Roberts filed her
- 42:35civil lawsuits against the Prince and Maxwell. All Right, folks,
- 42:39well there you have it. Figured i'd hop in the
- 42:42studio when we'd update that right now while it was
- 42:44hot off the press, and then we'll move on tomorrow
- 42:47morning and we'll add some meat to the bone, some context,
- 42:50whatever it may be. But one thing you can guarantee
- 42:54is that we will be back tomorrow morning and we
- 42:57will do it all over again.