Latest / The Calcio Guys / 2024-25 Champions League & Europa League Preview - Ep. 240 Ft. Nick Dianni
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- 0:27Speaker 1: And just like everyone predicted, you Didnaise in first place
- 0:30Speaker 1: in the city after four weeks hearing the couchul guys,
- 0:33Speaker 1: as everyone predicted. This week, Johnny, Adriano and Nicholas, we
- 0:36Speaker 1: are gonna wait for Nick Deyani. He's gonna join us later.
- 0:39Speaker 1: We're gonna talk some Champions League which kicks off tomorrow,
- 0:42Speaker 1: Europa League which kicks off next week. Uh, but City
- 0:45Speaker 1: I matchday four guys.
- 0:47Speaker 2: First of all, hey, you guys doing pretty good.
- 0:51Speaker 3: Pretty good?
- 0:53Speaker 1: Uh, Jenny, you're probably in the best mood out of
- 0:55Speaker 1: all of us because Napoli. I mean, I know I
- 0:58Speaker 1: just mentioned Youdnase. So first of all, shut up to them.
- 1:00Speaker 1: Three wins a single draw this season. Uh, they beat
- 1:04Speaker 1: They beat Parma today three to two. This is you know,
- 1:08Speaker 1: it almost feels like this is the new Bologna. You know,
- 1:11Speaker 1: Bologna is kind of back to the mid table self.
- 1:13Speaker 1: And I know it's early, guys, but you definitely has
- 1:16Speaker 1: the potential to be the new Bologna in the in
- 1:18Speaker 1: the sense that you know, this is not a team
- 1:20Speaker 1: that's really come out of nowhere. They've you know, been
- 1:22Speaker 1: in the middle of the table in the past few years.
- 1:24Speaker 1: They have money, they they have good development. They just
- 1:26Speaker 1: never got the job done. So it will be interesting
- 1:28Speaker 1: to see if we're not. You know, we're not gonna
- 1:29Speaker 1: put them in the top four just yet, but you know,
- 1:32Speaker 1: it's interesting to see. But the team want to talk
- 1:34Speaker 1: about is a team that when the school that's so
- 1:36Speaker 1: two years ago, struggle last year and they're back with
- 1:39Speaker 1: new coach Antonio Conte John your team uh for nothing
- 1:43Speaker 1: win this past uh this past weekend against Cality, which
- 1:47Speaker 1: caused the Cality fans to have a talk with their
- 1:49Speaker 1: players ce me line, including the mascot.
- 1:51Speaker 3: I don't know that was the.
- 1:53Speaker 2: Greatestop was on the pitch.
- 1:57Speaker 4: There a moment that photos. I gotta love you gotta
- 2:04Speaker 4: love the memes of it.
- 2:06Speaker 2: It's hilarious. It's like, what it's a flamingo.
- 2:08Speaker 1: No, I've never seen this mask BeO. I didn't know
- 2:11Speaker 1: City I had teams had mask. I mean, I know
- 2:13Speaker 1: you you've has one. I don't know if other teams
- 2:16Speaker 1: have one.
- 2:16Speaker 3: You guys know one has like mask the devil there,
- 2:20Speaker 3: but yeah, I know that one. It's like a strange one.
- 2:23Speaker 3: It's like it's kind of like the that was it.
- 2:25Speaker 3: The Philadelphia Flyers uh, what's what's his name? Gritty gritty? Like,
- 2:30Speaker 3: what is that guy? Like? We don't even know what
- 2:32Speaker 3: he is? Like, I felt like.
- 2:33Speaker 2: They just an orange fuzzy monster, That's what it is.
- 2:36Speaker 3: Like. Yeah, but yeah, I find Ky's uh mascot kind
- 2:41Speaker 3: of reminded me of something of that, of that genre
- 2:43Speaker 3: of thing. But yeah, so a moment having not only
- 2:47Speaker 3: the players but the mascot getting true to party by
- 2:51Speaker 3: that by the quartera.
- 2:54Speaker 1: But yeah, Jenny for nothing against Klity Lukaku scored again.
- 2:59Speaker 1: I forget, is it three goals already on the season.
- 3:03Speaker 2: So for who for? I think it has three goals?
- 3:07Speaker 1: Three goals, the Lorenzo scored, Cavaras scored, and uh so
- 3:12Speaker 1: four different goal scorers. This is This is coming after
- 3:16Speaker 1: a two to one win last well, last time out
- 3:19Speaker 1: and three nothing win before that. That was after they
- 3:22Speaker 1: lost nothing in their first game, not plague. Uh but
- 3:25Speaker 1: it almost feels like already Conte's uh you know he
- 3:29Speaker 1: has a team in the right direction.
- 3:30Speaker 2: Well yeah, he definitely, uh you need to happen.
- 3:33Speaker 4: I guess a small I thought his adjustment period would
- 3:36Speaker 4: have been a little bit longer, but it seems that
- 3:38Speaker 4: he found some kind of footing for the team, and
- 3:39Speaker 4: they grounded himselves quite quickly. Like right now they have
- 3:44Speaker 4: not only did they tighten up offensively, but they're getting
- 3:46Speaker 4: a little cleaner defensively.
- 3:48Speaker 2: You know, they're they're the golden French goals plus five.
- 3:52Speaker 3: Uh.
- 3:52Speaker 4: They only let in four so far in four games,
- 3:54Speaker 4: which is one goal per game, which is not the worst,
- 3:56Speaker 4: especially considering mad is not the most consistent keeper. So
- 4:03Speaker 4: you have to be extremely happy with this result. There's
- 4:05Speaker 4: no way to look at it in a negative light.
- 4:07Speaker 4: Everyone performed very well. I know some fans, for example,
- 4:11Speaker 4: don't even don't even like, for example, Politano had a
- 4:15Speaker 4: very iffy game, but Netta is coming in off the
- 4:17Speaker 4: bench just is kind of competing for his spot, it
- 4:20Speaker 4: seems at this point and the point where it seems
- 4:21Speaker 4: like nets is doing much better than Polly Dono and
- 4:23Speaker 4: that in that right slot. So the formation of the
- 4:27Speaker 4: three four two one is actually uh kind of working
- 4:31Speaker 4: out for them, you know. I found that it's a
- 4:33Speaker 4: I find it's a weird formation, but it gives cave
- 4:37Speaker 4: had a most more room to play around with, and
- 4:40Speaker 4: I think that's what the very important thing is. Like
- 4:43Speaker 4: I think Conte realized that Kata Scalia is a very
- 4:46Speaker 4: like if the team wants to do well, he needs
- 4:48Speaker 4: to be activated the most, and I think right now
- 4:50Speaker 4: he found a way to activate him, you know. And
- 4:53Speaker 4: plus it helps to have a guy like spin At
- 4:54Speaker 4: Sola on that left side for him, like we've like,
- 4:57Speaker 4: like I've discussed so many times where it's like Insignia
- 4:58Speaker 4: had that insane run because you had the spined Zlo
- 5:01Speaker 4: on his left wing and that's like, so that's until
- 5:03Speaker 4: up until Spinetzel's injury. You know, that left syc was
- 5:06Speaker 4: deadly for Italy. Same concept here. He's not the spin
- 5:10Speaker 4: At Zola of the euro Cup, but he's still you know,
- 5:13Speaker 4: a bit of a threat.
- 5:14Speaker 2: So it helps out uh.
- 5:15Speaker 4: And then Lukaku just you know, finding the goal scoring
- 5:18Speaker 4: touch is very crucial, very big. But at the end
- 5:22Speaker 4: of the day, it is Caliari Uh. It is a
- 5:24Speaker 4: win that's expected that you should take from there. Then
- 5:26Speaker 4: they're still a good team. But you know, they only
- 5:29Speaker 4: have two draws, they only have one goal for this
- 5:31Speaker 4: entire season so far. I thought Roma had a rough
- 5:35Speaker 4: time scoring. You know, these guys have it worse, you know,
- 5:39Speaker 4: So it's more like, Okay, they they went in and
- 5:44Speaker 4: they had to get a win from this game.
- 5:45Speaker 2: This is not a game that you get a draw.
- 5:47Speaker 4: It looks extremely poor if you get a loss. So
- 5:49Speaker 4: it's like like a wins, a WS is what is expected.
- 5:53Speaker 4: But a four zero win is very nice, you know,
- 5:56Speaker 4: Like I would have been okay with a two zero
- 5:57Speaker 4: or whatever, but four zero win, especially when it comes
- 6:00Speaker 4: from all angles or you know, from all places on
- 6:02Speaker 4: the pitch, because if you know, like gets that gets
- 6:06Speaker 4: if he gets gets it, like if you got to
- 6:10Speaker 4: center back involved in scoring a nice nice set pieces
- 6:13Speaker 4: and stuff, that that's how you know you're gonna have
- 6:15Speaker 4: a good season when you like, you know, when you
- 6:17Speaker 4: when you're even your set pieces are working out for
- 6:19Speaker 4: the players that don't always score so.
- 6:22Speaker 2: Great win makes me really happy.
- 6:24Speaker 4: Uh fuck, they're starting to make me believe, which is
- 6:27Speaker 4: not a good I don'tant I don't want them to
- 6:28Speaker 4: make me believe.
- 6:29Speaker 2: I don't want to crush my hopes. I don't want
- 6:31Speaker 2: them to to give me excitement.
- 6:34Speaker 4: I'm trying to ground myself down and I'm trying to
- 6:36Speaker 4: be realistic.
- 6:37Speaker 2: You know, there's super way to go you have to
- 6:41Speaker 2: watch out for.
- 6:42Speaker 3: But but yeah, no, and another point that you another player,
- 6:46Speaker 3: sorry that you that you mentioned, and that is David.
- 6:49Speaker 3: I think it's like what three assists in three games
- 6:51Speaker 3: or three appearance that he's made, so yeah, you know,
- 6:54Speaker 3: not just another another touch of brilliance, I guess in
- 6:57Speaker 3: the Mercato, a player that maybe people didn't really have
- 7:01Speaker 3: much of expectations for, not really sure what to expect,
- 7:03Speaker 3: and really making an impact and like you said, Jenny,
- 7:06Speaker 3: maybe even pushing for you know, for that starter spot,
- 7:11Speaker 3: for that starter spot if it be that. So yeah,
- 7:14Speaker 3: I know, that's that's another I think point that I
- 7:17Speaker 3: wanted to kind of emphasis there or emphasise, sorry, because
- 7:21Speaker 3: it's it's crucial to get you know, these attacking players
- 7:26Speaker 3: all activated, and I think so far, so good. I
- 7:29Speaker 3: don't know if it's going to be you know who
- 7:31Speaker 3: it's going to be, but whoever it is, I think
- 7:33Speaker 3: has stepped up so far. And Lukaku, man, it's just
- 7:36Speaker 3: it's it's crazy how much of a different player he
- 7:38Speaker 3: is under Antonio Conte. It's it's like night and day.
- 7:42Speaker 3: So I know, before the season started, and that's kind
- 7:46Speaker 3: of where my prediction was trying to hold on to
- 7:49Speaker 3: not Winnletos is reliant on on Lukaku and and really
- 7:53Speaker 3: working their magic again. And you know it's a small
- 7:56Speaker 3: sample size, but so far, so good.
- 7:59Speaker 4: Agreed, Agreed, And you know, like I, like I said,
- 8:02Speaker 4: with the entire UH season, just to focus on UH.
- 8:07Speaker 4: There's no external things besides the Copytalia like you should
- 8:11Speaker 4: really you should really be fighting for that Champions League spot,
- 8:14Speaker 4: like you should sorry for that scudetto Champions League spot.
- 8:17Speaker 4: Is it's like it's I'm not saying it's a guarantee,
- 8:22Speaker 4: but with the quality roster that they have and the
- 8:25Speaker 4: management and what they have available and what their schedule is, like,
- 8:28Speaker 4: it's expected. It's I'm not but I'm not saying that
- 8:31Speaker 4: I'm being fully like full of myself in say a Napolis,
- 8:35Speaker 4: Oh yeah, they're an easy top four team. No, No,
- 8:37Speaker 4: at the end of the day, you have to earn
- 8:38Speaker 4: the top four spot. But what I'm saying is that
- 8:40Speaker 4: when you look at it on paper, for being realistic,
- 8:42Speaker 4: that's expected. Now the scudetto is what the goal is
- 8:45Speaker 4: because because your competition is overloaded with with their schedule,
- 8:50Speaker 4: I'm not saying you're better than them on the pitch
- 8:52Speaker 4: quality wise, they might have better quality than you in
- 8:54Speaker 4: certain positions. I'm not saying that they're they're they're fall
- 8:58Speaker 4: in and out the best team in the league. But
- 9:00Speaker 4: where you have the advantage where they don't is the
- 9:02Speaker 4: light schedule, and that's what you need to play into.
- 9:05Speaker 4: That's what you need to capitalize on. So that's why
- 9:09Speaker 4: the goal for the school eto Fernapoli. That's if you're
- 9:10Speaker 4: gonna go for the school that you could go for
- 9:12Speaker 4: it this year.
- 9:13Speaker 1: You could.
- 9:14Speaker 4: You could, It's not it's it's it. This is how
- 9:17Speaker 4: you're gonna have to capitalize on it. That's your only
- 9:19Speaker 4: way of This is your avenue. If you don't, if
- 9:20Speaker 4: you don't capitalize on this avenue, there's no I don't
- 9:22Speaker 4: see that any other wave of them winning it. You know, like, uh,
- 9:25Speaker 4: this is the because then like like if you do
- 9:27Speaker 4: Mike Top four, then they're gonna have the same schedule
- 9:29Speaker 4: as all their competitors, and now it's like, okay, well
- 9:30Speaker 4: you're gonna have to be better.
- 9:31Speaker 2: Than them on the pitch as well besides schedule wise.
- 9:33Speaker 2: But I'm really going off on a.
- 9:35Speaker 3: Ramble here, no. I think also just to say is
- 9:37Speaker 3: like their biggest test will be obviously this weekend right, Yeah,
- 9:40Speaker 3: I think it's it's Juvenopole or Juve. I don't know
- 9:43Speaker 3: who's home, but it's I think it's there. It's their
- 9:46Speaker 3: biggest test so far, and we'll see it's you know, Conte,
- 9:50Speaker 3: you know, pointing events again. And not to say that
- 9:53Speaker 3: the opposition that they've put so far has been terrible.
- 9:56Speaker 3: I mean, they got shocked in the week one against
- 9:59Speaker 3: the hell Us, but the three now and we all
- 10:01Speaker 3: remember that. But I think their biggest test and there,
- 10:03Speaker 3: you know, their their first true test, is going to
- 10:05Speaker 3: be you know, this coming weekend against against Juva, and
- 10:08Speaker 3: I guess maybe after that, you know, maybe we can
- 10:10Speaker 3: kind of get a better gauge and see how they perform.
- 10:12Speaker 3: If they lose and you know, they perform, well, it's
- 10:15Speaker 3: one thing. If they if they weigh an egg, that's
- 10:17Speaker 3: another thing. If they dominate and v Juve again, that's
- 10:20Speaker 3: another talking point. So I think there's three different avenues
- 10:23Speaker 3: for you know, for this team obviously this coming weekend
- 10:26Speaker 3: in terms of how they end up playing and the
- 10:28Speaker 3: result that comes with that. But it's gonna be their
- 10:31Speaker 3: first true test. And kind of like when nick I mentioned,
- 10:33Speaker 3: I think last week or a couple of weeks ago
- 10:35Speaker 3: about you know, Roma and their first test and you know,
- 10:39Speaker 3: against the game against Juva, and it's kind of now
- 10:42Speaker 3: the same. Now it's not boys turned for that first
- 10:44Speaker 3: true test.
- 10:45Speaker 4: I think agreed, agreed, and you've has always been the
- 10:49Speaker 4: big game. It's always the game that Napolodani looked towards.
- 10:53Speaker 4: And now you've ben ten are slowly you know, like
- 10:55Speaker 4: they also look towards it too, because there is a
- 10:57Speaker 4: challenge to it.
- 10:58Speaker 2: It's no longer.
- 11:00Speaker 4: It's no longer a Jason versus the Golaia situation, even
- 11:03Speaker 4: though culturally it feels that way. It's now they're actually
- 11:06Speaker 4: too good combet. It's it's a recent it's it is.
- 11:09Speaker 4: It's not a historic rivalry, it's not at all, but
- 11:12Speaker 4: it is a very strong rival in the league just
- 11:14Speaker 4: because of like what it embraces in terms of the
- 11:16Speaker 4: cultures in Italy. So even if one team's bad and
- 11:19Speaker 4: one team's good, it's always always like a big game
- 11:22Speaker 4: that circled on the calendar, and it's especially for a
- 11:25Speaker 4: team like Juventus. I guess we'll get to it soon
- 11:27Speaker 4: with Nick that they're looking to find a way to
- 11:29Speaker 4: get like a bounce back into the League, like they're
- 11:31Speaker 4: right now, they're stumbling a bit.
- 11:33Speaker 2: If they get that win versus Napulli on Saturday, that.
- 11:35Speaker 4: Would be huge for Juventus, and that's gonat changes. Everything
- 11:38Speaker 4: changes for you a and that could be a very
- 11:40Speaker 4: big bounce for them too. So they're definitely going to
- 11:42Speaker 4: be putting all in in that game too because they
- 11:44Speaker 4: know that what it can do for them if they
- 11:46Speaker 4: get the results from there.
- 11:47Speaker 3: Sote who's home, Nick, I don't know if you look.
- 11:49Speaker 1: It up, I don't know, but I know who is
- 11:54Speaker 1: home right now waiting for us as our friend Nick Diani.
- 11:56Speaker 1: So we're gonna we're gonna put you some Champions League
- 11:58Speaker 1: and Europa League coming right up. Welcome back to couch
- 12:02Speaker 1: you guys joining us now. Nick Yanney from the Kicks
- 12:04Speaker 1: and Picks podcast. Feels like you're probably a number one guest, Nick.
- 12:08Speaker 1: How's it going?
- 12:09Speaker 5: It's gone, man, appreciate it. It's a great distinction to
- 12:11Speaker 5: have them honor. Thank you guys for having me back.
- 12:14Speaker 1: Of course, Always we love I always love it.
- 12:16Speaker 3: Always always a pleasure, love you.
- 12:18Speaker 1: Guys, always a pleasure, Always a player, always a player, guys.
- 12:26Speaker 1: Champions Leap is back this week, new format new format
- 12:31Speaker 1: that we all have to learn. I thought I learned it,
- 12:33Speaker 1: but every time I think about it, I forget about it.
- 12:35Speaker 1: But thirty six teams play eight games, giant table for everyone.
- 12:41Speaker 1: No groups. Top eight advance to the Round of sixteen.
- 12:45Speaker 1: Teams nine to through twenty four advounced to the knockout phase.
- 12:49Speaker 1: Teams twenty five through thirty six get eliminated entirely. I
- 12:53Speaker 1: think that's it, guys.
- 12:54Speaker 3: Is that MI correct sounds about right?
- 12:57Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't have any teams in the
- 12:58Speaker 2: Champions League, so I haven't been.
- 13:02Speaker 3: It's basically a super league. We spoke about this a
- 13:04Speaker 3: couple of weeks ago, but it's Champions League in quotations.
- 13:07Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, exactly. So you know, I kind of want
- 13:12Speaker 1: to talk about more than just the Italian teams. That's
- 13:15Speaker 1: why we have you on Nick. You know you're the
- 13:18Speaker 1: expert in terms of betting odds and favorites, and I mean,
- 13:20Speaker 1: right off the bat, we know who the favorite teams
- 13:24Speaker 1: are already. You name Man City and Real Madrid. You know,
- 13:26Speaker 1: easily top two as favorites, especially Real Madrid. They are
- 13:30Speaker 1: the kings of this competition. But we'll see if there's
- 13:32Speaker 1: still the Kings. In this new format, is there a
- 13:34Speaker 1: team that's already the betting favorite to win? To win
- 13:38Speaker 1: it all come out? I guess next May or next
- 13:40Speaker 1: next June, whenever the final is.
- 13:42Speaker 5: Yeah, so you hit the nail on the head. The
- 13:44Speaker 5: two teams that are always the favorites are the two favorites.
- 13:48Speaker 5: The interesting thing here is there's two ways to bet
- 13:51Speaker 5: on it at this point. You can bet on the
- 13:54Speaker 5: Champions League winner from the start, right right now, you
- 13:56Speaker 5: can say, I believe in this team are gonna win
- 13:59Speaker 5: the chat in the league normal futures betting market. The
- 14:03Speaker 5: difference with this new I believe they're calling it the
- 14:07Speaker 5: league stage right the one big table. Right through those
- 14:12Speaker 5: those eight games, you can kind of separate the betting
- 14:16Speaker 5: into just focusing on the league stage. And I think
- 14:19Speaker 5: that's kind of cool. That's kind of interesting because you know,
- 14:23Speaker 5: you not everything is equal. You can kind of take
- 14:26Speaker 5: a look at the particular team obviously how strongly you
- 14:29Speaker 5: feel about them or their depth. But the schedule comes
- 14:32Speaker 5: into play in a big, big way because not everybody
- 14:36Speaker 5: plays everybody else. Right, you can be a strong ish
- 14:41Speaker 5: team but have a really easy schedule. You can be
- 14:44Speaker 5: the best team and have the hardest schedule. So I
- 14:46Speaker 5: think that gives another layer, you know, of a nuance
- 14:51Speaker 5: into this. Right, it's brand new, it's brand new for everybody.
- 14:56Speaker 5: The one thing, the other thing that really it takes
- 14:59Speaker 5: away from, in my opinion, is kind of that home
- 15:01Speaker 5: field advantage. I think it's way more luck of the draw.
- 15:06Speaker 5: You know, at this point in time. You know, if
- 15:07Speaker 5: you had, you know, two teams that are evenly matched, right,
- 15:10Speaker 5: let's say I'm just looking at them, Leo from France
- 15:14Speaker 5: and stut Guard from Germany, if they were going to
- 15:16Speaker 5: play each other, let's say that you know they're neck
- 15:18Speaker 5: and neck teams. Well, you know, you get to play
- 15:21Speaker 5: the other one at your home field, right, no matter what,
- 15:24Speaker 5: that's a big, big advantage. Well now only one of
- 15:27Speaker 5: them gets to play the other at home. So like
- 15:29Speaker 5: just trying to understand scheduling, trying to understand you know,
- 15:35Speaker 5: the fixture. That's how they're impacted. What other competitions these
- 15:38Speaker 5: teams are in, what you know, what the league schedule
- 15:41Speaker 5: looks like. Obviously domestic leagues, we already just came off
- 15:44Speaker 5: of an international fixture list, you know, two weeks of that.
- 15:50Speaker 5: It's it's tough to make edge or tales with boys.
- 15:52Speaker 5: I mean, I think that's I'm looking most forward to
- 15:54Speaker 5: the chaos. I think that's the point I'm ultimately getting
- 15:56Speaker 5: to is, you know, these players play a lot of games.
- 16:00Speaker 5: They got some tired likes. This's early in the season,
- 16:01Speaker 5: but we just watched a thirty eight game season on
- 16:05Speaker 5: top of Champions League, on top of the Euros, on
- 16:07Speaker 5: top of the Copa America. All these top teams have
- 16:10Speaker 5: players that are impacted. So we're what week four into
- 16:14Speaker 5: the domestic league season, and we've already had two friendlies,
- 16:18Speaker 5: We've had tough games, and now we have Champions League
- 16:20Speaker 5: spanning three days of this midwek and I believe next week.
- 16:23Speaker 5: So I think we're going to lose a little bit
- 16:27Speaker 5: of what we've known, what we've come to love right
- 16:30Speaker 5: the way it was Champions League and the group stage,
- 16:32Speaker 5: and you know, planning for that, but I don't know.
- 16:36Speaker 5: I'm trying to be positive about it and say it's
- 16:38Speaker 5: not just the catch grab for UEFA and the clubs,
- 16:41Speaker 5: but it's gonna be good for the fans also, right
- 16:44Speaker 5: where we're gonna get see more games and it's going
- 16:47Speaker 5: to be absolutely hectic So that's what I'm trying to
- 16:51Speaker 5: come to terms with here from the betting front, right,
- 16:54Speaker 5: Man City is still your favorite, Real Madrid is still second.
- 16:58Speaker 5: What's going to happen after that?
- 17:00Speaker 3: Anybody's guests, we're about for the Italian teams, like I mean,
- 17:05Speaker 3: in terms of the Italian teams and Champions League. Since
- 17:08Speaker 3: we are on the culture guys tonight, what are your
- 17:11Speaker 3: what are because I don't know you know better than me,
- 17:13Speaker 3: but maybe the favorite I guess it would be Inted,
- 17:16Speaker 3: but just maybe I don't know if the odds are
- 17:19Speaker 3: all available for all the Italian teams, if you can
- 17:21Speaker 3: give us some information on that.
- 17:22Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely so for the league stage winner, uh Inter
- 17:26Speaker 5: is the Italian team with the best odds. They're plus
- 17:29Speaker 5: two thousand. So just to level set, Man City is
- 17:32Speaker 5: plus three hundred, Real Madrid is plus five hundred. You
- 17:36Speaker 5: have Arsenal and Bayern Munich who are both at around
- 17:38Speaker 5: plus seven hundred. Everybody else is plus one thousand or higher,
- 17:42Speaker 5: So Inters a plus two thousand, you have plus three thousand,
- 17:46Speaker 5: ac Milan plus four thousand, out a lot to plus
- 17:49Speaker 5: five thousand and.
- 17:52Speaker 3: Weld on.
- 17:52Speaker 5: Yeah, we we don't have to talk about so.
- 17:55Speaker 4: You're telling me if I play some fiber dollars on Inter,
- 17:57Speaker 4: my future is for Inter to win, to win the
- 18:00Speaker 4: Champions League, I can make a hundred bucks off five dollars.
- 18:04Speaker 2: Say it was plus two thousand, right, yeah, okay, let's go,
- 18:07Speaker 2: let's stop it in, let's go.
- 18:09Speaker 5: Yeah, that's crazy.
- 18:11Speaker 2: Those are really high odds, don't don't you find I.
- 18:14Speaker 5: Think they have a tough schedule. I think all the
- 18:16Speaker 5: Italian teams really got a broad deal, not a rod deal.
- 18:19Speaker 5: But I think there's not really an easy schedule between
- 18:23Speaker 5: the teams. I think I don't personally rate Liverpool or
- 18:27Speaker 5: Dortmund or let the Go or PSG better than Eater.
- 18:30Speaker 5: I just think they have more favorable schedules.
- 18:32Speaker 3: They're still good teams.
- 18:34Speaker 5: There's still good teams.
- 18:35Speaker 3: At the end of the day, they're still good teams.
- 18:38Speaker 3: And then and then exactly the next point before is
- 18:40Speaker 3: that like are you playing the Liverpools theos at home
- 18:44Speaker 3: or away or you know, so it's all it's all
- 18:47Speaker 3: I think, all a bit of a mess. But you know,
- 18:51Speaker 3: so it really depends. I mean, it's no longer like
- 18:53Speaker 3: you said, Nick, you have that custion of, you know,
- 18:55Speaker 3: feeling that you know you have your home fans behind you.
- 18:58Speaker 3: You might get you might the game, I get the
- 19:00Speaker 3: game against I don't know, aston Villa at home. Uh,
- 19:04Speaker 3: and then you know you're a way to city or
- 19:06Speaker 3: whatever the case may be for whatever these teams. So
- 19:09Speaker 3: it's really you know, a hit or miss. Yeah.
- 19:12Speaker 1: Actually I want to run through the opponents for each
- 19:15Speaker 1: of the Italian teams. Now Skunter, they were in paul One.
- 19:18Speaker 1: It feels like they got the toughest draw.
- 19:20Speaker 5: Uh.
- 19:20Speaker 1: So they got Leipzig, Man City, Arsenal Byron Levery, Cusen,
- 19:23Speaker 1: Red Star, Belgrade, Young Boys, Monaco, Sparta, Prank Atalanta, Real Madrid, Barcelona, Arsenal,
- 19:29Speaker 1: Shaq Dardnets, Celtic Young Boys, Stutg Gott's stormts v f
- 19:37Speaker 1: B Stutgart. You've a Man City, Leipzig, Benfica, Club Club
- 19:42Speaker 1: brug ps v Einhovid, lil f f f v f
- 19:46Speaker 1: B Stutgart, Sorry, and Aston Villa, Milan, Liverpool, Real, Madrid, Club,
- 19:51Speaker 1: brug Bayern, Lever, Cusen, Red Star Belgrade, the Mozagreb, Girona
- 19:54Speaker 1: and Slova and Bretislava and finally Bologna, Bruce Dorman Liverpool.
- 20:00Speaker 1: Like the Nets, Benfica, Lil Sporting, UH Sporting Club, UH,
- 20:05Speaker 1: Monaco and ascon Villa, And so you know, looking at
- 20:09Speaker 1: these uh you see it scrolling across the bottom, Inter
- 20:14Speaker 1: it feels like they have some really tough opponents. It
- 20:16Speaker 1: almost feels like Bologna got a better draw all things
- 20:19Speaker 1: considered that they're in pot four.
- 20:21Speaker 3: Uh.
- 20:21Speaker 1: Sure they're gonna be playing Borucia, Dorman, Liverpool. But other
- 20:25Speaker 1: than that, Okay, I'm not saying these other clubs are
- 20:28Speaker 1: the way Bologna is playing. They're not gonna be, but
- 20:30Speaker 1: just in terms of talent, just overall, if Inter had
- 20:34Speaker 1: Bologna's UH schedule, I think would be a lot easier
- 20:36Speaker 1: for Inter. They seem like they have a tough draw.
- 20:40Speaker 1: You know, looking at the pot two teams out Tolanta, Juve, Meanlan,
- 20:43Speaker 1: it feels like it's it's pretty even. Maybe Meanlan has.
- 20:47Speaker 3: UH is the easiest.
- 20:49Speaker 1: I think, yeah, I think you has the easiest. Atalanta
- 20:52Speaker 1: Attalanta maybe a bit harder than than Melan, but it's yeah,
- 20:57Speaker 1: it's it's so hard to predict, especially because this is
- 21:00Speaker 1: the first year. We don't know what the past is like,
- 21:03Speaker 1: so it's interesting. Obviously, a lot of these teams, uh
- 21:07Speaker 1: kind of share opponents, like Aston.
- 21:09Speaker 5: Villa, he's playing everybody.
- 21:12Speaker 1: Yeah, Bologna and Uve they're playing Bologna Uve. So you know,
- 21:17Speaker 1: a couple of a couple of the Italian teams they
- 21:19Speaker 1: share opponents. But yeah, it's it's weird. It's it's so
- 21:22Speaker 1: hard to compare when you have and you're not playing
- 21:25Speaker 1: the same opponents.
- 21:26Speaker 5: And this is what I'll say, man, you know we're
- 21:29Speaker 5: talking about you having an easier schedule. Let's say at
- 21:33Speaker 5: home to PSV PSV. Please Chris correct me if I'm wrong.
- 21:38Speaker 5: I believe they were Dutch champions last year, right, it's possible,
- 21:43Speaker 5: or if they weren't, they're damn sure a perennial contender,
- 21:46Speaker 5: right for the last two or three four years? Uh
- 21:49Speaker 5: away to Leipsig, Right, a team that has already beaten
- 21:55Speaker 5: I can't even the German team that was unfeated last
- 21:57Speaker 5: year already beating Levercusen this year. Thank you, I'm sorry.
- 22:02Speaker 5: Why don't you guys bring me out now? You're having
- 22:04Speaker 5: second thoughts here?
- 22:06Speaker 3: Right?
- 22:07Speaker 5: Top four, top five team in Germany year after year. Leo, Okay,
- 22:10Speaker 5: that that one's maybe okay, Villa Champions League team you
- 22:13Speaker 5: know obviously, right, top top sixteen for the past three
- 22:16Speaker 5: or four years. Man City Club Breus who made it
- 22:20Speaker 5: out of the group stage last year in Champions League, right,
- 22:22Speaker 5: I mean away not the easiest fixture. And then you
- 22:25Speaker 5: got Benfica, who's top three, top two, top one in
- 22:28Speaker 5: Portugal every year.
- 22:29Speaker 3: So where is this is Juventus?
- 22:35Speaker 5: By the way, Juventus that didn't score a goal the
- 22:37Speaker 5: last two games.
- 22:38Speaker 3: Vent just that that hasn't been in Champions years remember
- 22:42Speaker 3: the Spicy by twenty thousand years later, they haven't been
- 22:46Speaker 3: Champions League. But this is Juventus if they want to
- 22:48Speaker 3: be serious about one hundred team.
- 22:51Speaker 5: That you should be absolutely agree with that.
- 22:53Speaker 3: Yeah, I remember you made.
- 22:54Speaker 5: The last time in the Champions League they lost to
- 22:56Speaker 5: Maccabee and the same Benfica team, right or sporting.
- 23:00Speaker 3: He always gives us issues and champions It feels like
- 23:03Speaker 3: you guys always get Benfica and Bruges. I feel something,
- 23:08Speaker 3: you know what I mean, It's it's always that.
- 23:09Speaker 1: But well I think that's who they played in their
- 23:11Speaker 1: europe League run.
- 23:13Speaker 3: Yeah or yeah, whatever, that's why.
- 23:16Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I agree with you on hundred percent.
- 23:19Speaker 5: These are teams Juventus should aspire to be. These are
- 23:22Speaker 5: teams that you know, don't match up right in terms
- 23:25Speaker 5: in terms of aspirations, you know, historical significance. But yeah,
- 23:30Speaker 5: there's no lamps. I mean it's not it's not the
- 23:33Speaker 5: same game a lot.
- 23:34Speaker 3: I'm not saying much over a team, but I think
- 23:36Speaker 3: I think, you know, if if if Uventus are serious,
- 23:39Speaker 3: I think they're their biggest task is who city in
- 23:42Speaker 3: the in that sure sure city? And who else is
- 23:44Speaker 3: who else is a quote unquote big team in their group?
- 23:48Speaker 3: It's them in city.
- 23:49Speaker 1: I mean life stick is good. There's a reason they
- 23:52Speaker 1: were in one.
- 23:53Speaker 3: Yeah, but that people get the league that they play in.
- 23:57Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I mean, I don't know. I think Uventus
- 23:59Speaker 3: are stronger than most of those teams. And this is
- 24:01Speaker 3: a meal. And as to saying this, like, if they're
- 24:03Speaker 3: serious and they want to be you know, taken seriously,
- 24:07Speaker 3: I think, you know, they have no choice but to
- 24:11Speaker 3: to you know, to go into the back in the
- 24:13Speaker 3: Champions League and uh and and take care of their
- 24:16Speaker 3: business because I don't know, uh you know, I know,
- 24:19Speaker 3: into the betting favorites, but I don't know. I wouldn't
- 24:22Speaker 3: I wouldn't put it past Juventus to to get out
- 24:24Speaker 3: of there, you know, with I don't know how many
- 24:27Speaker 3: points it is going to be. Is gonna is going
- 24:29Speaker 3: to get you in that top eight? Maybe we can
- 24:30Speaker 3: talk about that, but you know, I don't know. I
- 24:36Speaker 3: I don't know, like what's like, what's what's the over
- 24:38Speaker 3: under on like how many points they should be getting
- 24:40Speaker 3: to to, you know, to secure that top eight. I
- 24:44Speaker 3: don't know, but I think they have the chance to
- 24:47Speaker 3: do it. You know, in terms of who they're playing.
- 24:50Speaker 2: What was the league that you wanted to find out
- 24:52Speaker 2: who won last year? Was that it was the Dutch League?
- 24:54Speaker 5: Right, yeah, yeah it was.
- 24:55Speaker 2: I didn't hope in No one on the league PSV
- 25:00Speaker 2: right yeah, yeah, yes, So.
- 25:02Speaker 5: Yeah, they won the league last year.
- 25:03Speaker 2: So that I mean, don't seven point second place for
- 25:06Speaker 2: fire Ord.
- 25:09Speaker 3: Yeah, but the Italian League or or Dutch League, I
- 25:12Speaker 3: mean I'm sorry, you know you're going to call a
- 25:13Speaker 3: space of spade there, I.
- 25:15Speaker 6: Mean Dutch League, Yeah, twenty twenty twenty four, Man, I
- 25:18Speaker 6: think you have to you know, like an Ord that's
- 25:21Speaker 6: that's been in the final of European competition, what three
- 25:25Speaker 6: three times in the last five or six years.
- 25:28Speaker 5: You got i AX, who's you know, every every team
- 25:32Speaker 5: in this competition is picked the player from one time
- 25:34Speaker 5: or another. It's I get what you're saying, but I
- 25:39Speaker 5: got to see it from you first before I you.
- 25:41Speaker 3: Know, no, absolutely, but I want to say here first
- 25:44Speaker 3: that they should. They have the excuses and it should
- 25:49Speaker 3: be for all the Italian teams for that matter. I
- 25:50Speaker 3: just I'm just saying you have it because I think
- 25:52Speaker 3: they have. In terms of schedule wise, I think they
- 25:54Speaker 3: have the best chance to advance and pick up the
- 25:57Speaker 3: most points. Not saying that they not saying that they're
- 26:01Speaker 3: that they're better than you know inther because in are better,
- 26:04Speaker 3: but I think they should. I must say they will,
- 26:08Speaker 3: but they should pick up the most points in terms
- 26:11Speaker 3: of the Italian teams maybe battling with with in their depending,
- 26:15Speaker 3: but I think in their schedule is a bit tougher
- 26:17Speaker 3: and we'll see how much they can handle this year
- 26:20Speaker 3: in terms of another year of fighting for Scudetto and
- 26:23Speaker 3: fighting the champions. Nick, what do you think? Am I
- 26:27Speaker 3: wrong for saying that? Or or you're a fan? I
- 26:29Speaker 3: mean I think I think this is.
- 26:33Speaker 1: We talked about it last week, like this is a
- 26:35Speaker 1: young team. Look they're struggling against emply. You know the
- 26:40Speaker 1: magic already from the first two games, has already worn off.
- 26:44Speaker 1: This is a team with so many new transfers, a
- 26:46Speaker 1: new coach, new system. Yes, obviously I want them to
- 26:49Speaker 1: finish top twenty four advents in the next round. That
- 26:52Speaker 1: has to be the goal. Yeah, but on paper, yes,
- 26:56Speaker 1: they probably got a favorable draw. They could have got worse,
- 27:00Speaker 1: you know, more difficult teams to play against. But we
- 27:03Speaker 1: know from Champions League anything could happen, and these are
- 27:05Speaker 1: teams that you don't play against normally. Sure it's easy
- 27:09Speaker 1: for us to say, uh, you know, it's just Einhove
- 27:11Speaker 1: and I you know, it's just lip Sickpick is probably
- 27:13Speaker 1: the team I'm worried about most, pretty much as much
- 27:16Speaker 1: as Man City. That that that that's gonna be a
- 27:19Speaker 1: tough game. I think, I think that's and that's a way.
- 27:23Speaker 1: So that's probably one game that Juve is probably already
- 27:27Speaker 1: the underdogs. I don't know when they I don't know
- 27:29Speaker 1: if it's tomorrow that they play uh or they play
- 27:32Speaker 1: Einhoven tomorrow.
- 27:33Speaker 3: I early game, it's it's you Einhoven Okay tomorrow in
- 27:42Speaker 3: or in.
- 27:45Speaker 5: Okay.
- 27:46Speaker 1: But you know, I wouldn't I wouldn't bet money for
- 27:50Speaker 1: them to finish top eight. Let's put it that way,
- 27:53Speaker 1: especially after especially after seeing you know, the performances from
- 27:58Speaker 1: the last two weeks. It's someone just appointing, but it's
- 28:00Speaker 1: also growing pains and this champions Lee is going to
- 28:04Speaker 1: be part of the growing pains.
- 28:06Speaker 5: And it's impossible to make the comparison only but like
- 28:09Speaker 5: you know, take the Champions of Holland, right are they
- 28:13Speaker 5: at least they six place team in Italy?
- 28:18Speaker 3: We ask depends what you ask. I mean, you might
- 28:22Speaker 3: say yes, I might think no and whatever.
- 28:24Speaker 5: But okay, but the point is we just watched you.
- 28:27Speaker 5: It's not apples to apples. It's impossible to make the comparison.
- 28:30Speaker 5: We just want you a struggle to end. Believe. We
- 28:32Speaker 5: just watched them struggle against Roma team who's looked really,
- 28:35Speaker 5: really bad so far this year. So you know, psc
- 28:40Speaker 5: winning their league has to count for something, right, look
- 28:43Speaker 5: at teaming it.
- 28:43Speaker 3: Away from them. But you know, at the same time,
- 28:45Speaker 3: we're talking about Yve, we're not talking about we're not
- 28:48Speaker 3: talking about Atalanta, all due respect, that has no history
- 28:53Speaker 3: in this in this in this competition, has no aspirations
- 28:56Speaker 3: to do well. They have the aspirations obviously to do well,
- 28:58Speaker 3: But you know the DNA, you know, you've all the
- 29:05Speaker 3: only thing that matters for you is to win, right.
- 29:07Speaker 3: We always say that, right, it's their model. Right. It's
- 29:11Speaker 3: not about playing good, it's about winning. Right. So again,
- 29:14Speaker 3: my only point is not discrediting any opposition that they're
- 29:18Speaker 3: going to play. But my point is that if you've
- 29:21Speaker 3: a what have they been searching for for the past
- 29:24Speaker 3: twenty seven years? Twenty eight years?
- 29:26Speaker 4: What is it?
- 29:27Speaker 3: They haven't won the Champions League. They've been searching for
- 29:31Speaker 3: the Champions League. They brought in Ronaldo, they brought on
- 29:33Speaker 3: all these pieces for the Champions League. They haven't done
- 29:36Speaker 3: it yet. If they're serious, that's my point. If they
- 29:38Speaker 3: want to be serious about the competition, they need to
- 29:42Speaker 3: go all out. And I'm not saying they're gonna win
- 29:45Speaker 3: it like. It's still a hard competition to win. Don't
- 29:47Speaker 3: get me wrong. It's not easy. It's not just saying Okay, yeah, tomorrow,
- 29:49Speaker 3: I'm gonna win the Champions League. No, I get that.
- 29:51Speaker 3: But at the same time, you know, I think you know,
- 29:56Speaker 3: and it pains me to say because I'm a rival fan,
- 29:58Speaker 3: but if I take off that cap, you know this
- 30:01Speaker 3: is a good team. I think and their coach, well, yes, okay,
- 30:05Speaker 3: there's two weeks of struggle, but we're we're singing the
- 30:08Speaker 3: same tune when they when they start off the season. Well, no,
- 30:11Speaker 3: so it's it's it's it's gonna be an up and
- 30:13Speaker 3: down thing. I think the going paints. The next point
- 30:15Speaker 3: is is our Nick not Danny our Nick? Is? Uh
- 30:20Speaker 3: is is definitely something to look at, but I don't know.
- 30:23Speaker 3: I think they have what it takes too two to
- 30:28Speaker 3: do well. And and again my whole point is if
- 30:30Speaker 3: they're serious about this Champions League and about this this
- 30:33Speaker 3: this competition, they they should go far.
- 30:39Speaker 1: How about uh, how about the other Italent teams?
- 30:43Speaker 5: Nick?
- 30:44Speaker 1: I know we talked about inter you said they're betting favorites.
- 30:48Speaker 1: What what do you think about their trap, Johnny? Johnny's
- 30:50Speaker 1: been quiet, Maybe Jenny give your opinions too.
- 30:55Speaker 4: Honestly, I don't have much in terms because, like I said,
- 30:58Speaker 4: I've kind of tuned out for Champions because none of
- 31:00Speaker 4: my teams are in it.
- 31:01Speaker 2: It is an interesting concept of how they're formatting it
- 31:03Speaker 2: this year.
- 31:04Speaker 4: But I mean, regardless whether my teams are in it
- 31:08Speaker 4: or not, you know, it is a fair point where
- 31:10Speaker 4: it's like internationally, you know. Besides, I mean, like look
- 31:14Speaker 4: recently in the in the in the lower cups. Let's
- 31:17Speaker 4: say you know, we've been having appearances in the final.
- 31:19Speaker 4: Then you know, like inter has also done great work
- 31:21Speaker 4: and in like recent history and all some of the
- 31:24Speaker 4: Italian teams I've been doing well in champions like too,
- 31:26Speaker 4: at least making semi finals appearances. You know, it's time
- 31:30Speaker 4: to I think, even though it is kind of like
- 31:34Speaker 4: a negative sense, maybe something like this could be a
- 31:37Speaker 4: positive for for the Italian teams especially you have eight
- 31:40Speaker 4: games to play in qualifiers, I guess, so you know
- 31:43Speaker 4: what I mean, you have it. It's not your usual
- 31:44Speaker 4: it's not your usual six where it's like okay, well
- 31:47Speaker 4: you're you're like like you can either be out of
- 31:49Speaker 4: it early on or you can have to climb up.
- 31:51Speaker 2: Eight games. You have a little bit more wiggle room
- 31:53Speaker 2: and stuff.
- 31:54Speaker 6: It.
- 31:54Speaker 2: It does add more to the load, but it could
- 31:57Speaker 2: be also also be a blessing in disguise. That's just
- 31:59Speaker 2: me being full.
- 32:01Speaker 4: The different different opponents and different matchups could be beneficial
- 32:04Speaker 4: to the team because sometimes you get put in this group,
- 32:06Speaker 4: why might all blurry all of a sudden, Hello, focus
- 32:09Speaker 4: camera Okay, there we go.
- 32:12Speaker 5: I'm back.
- 32:13Speaker 4: Almost got final snapped there for a second. Yeah, it's
- 32:18Speaker 4: just like sometimes you know, like you get put in
- 32:20Speaker 4: this group of death where it's like no matter who
- 32:22Speaker 4: you face, you're you're you're screwed. Like look at Bologna
- 32:26Speaker 4: for example, Like now Bologna, they got gutted. They got
- 32:28Speaker 4: gutted after in this offseason, like we all knew, we
- 32:31Speaker 4: all expected it, right. But you know, for if you're
- 32:34Speaker 4: a fan of Bologna, the fact that you get eight
- 32:36Speaker 4: games in Champions League, and if you're if Joey Supputo,
- 32:39Speaker 4: he's rolling in the doll already, but he's making more
- 32:41Speaker 4: dough now getting eight, getting at least four.
- 32:45Speaker 2: I think he's got four.
- 32:46Speaker 3: Home games about more or less.
- 32:48Speaker 4: Yeah, it's yeah, yeah, you know like instead of instead
- 32:51Speaker 4: of only getting three, now you get four.
- 32:53Speaker 2: Uh you get the additional one for income. It's definitely
- 32:56Speaker 2: the same is going to sell out.
- 32:57Speaker 4: Whether it's a win loss, you get to see you
- 32:59Speaker 4: have to play at different like it for them, you know,
- 33:01Speaker 4: maybe those eight games can be nice because you might
- 33:03Speaker 4: get some some surprises from them.
- 33:05Speaker 2: So all in all, it could be a blessing to
- 33:09Speaker 2: this guy. I'm a bit more on a hopeful side.
- 33:11Speaker 4: But it's so hard, especially as the first time of
- 33:14Speaker 4: this format, it's so hard to make a like you
- 33:16Speaker 4: just got to throw something against the wall and hope
- 33:18Speaker 4: it sticks. You know, your teams can either crash and
- 33:21Speaker 4: burn or a team can you know, like because of
- 33:23Speaker 4: this whole like expanded format might actually beneficial for them
- 33:26Speaker 4: because they might get matchups, they might dodge certain matchups
- 33:29Speaker 4: that might have been terrible for them in group stages
- 33:31Speaker 4: so to speak, and and now actually get favorable matchups
- 33:34Speaker 4: and have like a like a bit of a like
- 33:38Speaker 4: what's the word I'm looking for it not like a
- 33:40Speaker 4: masked success, but like.
- 33:42Speaker 5: Uh it's like, uh, you take advantage of what's in
- 33:45Speaker 5: front of you, right.
- 33:46Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's just just you know, look of the draw.
- 33:49Speaker 5: I guess that's probably I think I think you both
- 33:52Speaker 5: made outstanding points. I mean, don't have to go back
- 33:54Speaker 5: to what you're saying and then Johnny, what you touched on.
- 33:57Speaker 5: I mean, at the end of the day, we got
- 33:58Speaker 5: five teams in this competition right as a league, so
- 34:01Speaker 5: we've been doing something right. Okay, you want to You're like, man,
- 34:05Speaker 5: I can't. In hot I'm sorry I'll apologize. I'm just
- 34:08Speaker 5: you know, I'm trying to I'm trying to be level
- 34:11Speaker 5: headed and not and not prop up the Italian teams
- 34:13Speaker 5: because it's it's pretty easy for us to do that,
- 34:16Speaker 5: but we've clearly done something very right to get to
- 34:19Speaker 5: this point. This, to me is going to show Okay,
- 34:23Speaker 5: do you know was it real?
- 34:24Speaker 3: Like? Do we you know?
- 34:25Speaker 5: Now we're playing four or five teams from England, We're
- 34:28Speaker 5: playing the best teams from Germany, and everybody's playing each other.
- 34:31Speaker 5: Spain is having a resurgence from a from a love
- 34:33Speaker 5: legal standpoint. I mean, let's see. You know, you look
- 34:38Speaker 5: at a Bologna I wonder, right because they look like shit.
- 34:41Speaker 5: They have a coach who I don't particularly like. I'll
- 34:45Speaker 5: let you know. I'm sure you guys have commented on
- 34:46Speaker 5: that plenty, but we already know they're you know, they're
- 34:50Speaker 5: not finishing top four. There's it's it's statistically impossible, right,
- 34:53Speaker 5: they don't have the squad to do it. There's teams
- 34:55Speaker 5: better than them. They've started with zero wins. I think
- 34:57Speaker 5: in four games. How much emphasis do they now put
- 35:01Speaker 5: into these eight games?
- 35:02Speaker 3: Right?
- 35:03Speaker 5: I think maybe they go all in and this this
- 35:06Speaker 5: every game is is ah, you know, is a final
- 35:08Speaker 5: for them because there's some teams that are beatable or
- 35:13Speaker 5: at least on their level, or at least we perceive
- 35:15Speaker 5: to be on their levels. So it's just gonna be
- 35:18Speaker 5: an unreal dynamic. I think that's just what we can't
- 35:21Speaker 5: account for at this point in time until we see it.
- 35:24Speaker 3: And especially for them too, you know, I mean love
- 35:27Speaker 3: of them or hate the coach, you know, you tell
- 35:28Speaker 3: you know, everybody has their opinions on him, so that's fine.
- 35:31Speaker 3: But still a coach that has brought a few Dentina
- 35:35Speaker 3: team in conference league has some quote unquote European experience,
- 35:40Speaker 3: if you will. I know it's the third tier, but
- 35:43Speaker 3: you know, still having that in his back pocket to
- 35:46Speaker 3: kind of know what to expect. Obviously, you don't know
- 35:48Speaker 3: what to expect on Champions League Knights because they're always different.
- 35:51Speaker 3: Like like Nick said, there, but yeah, no, I mean listen,
- 35:57Speaker 3: I I I like what John he said, because I
- 36:01Speaker 3: think those eight games, I'm sorry, those four games sorry
- 36:04Speaker 3: at home are everything for for Bologna. I think this
- 36:08Speaker 3: season because especially after everything that happened in terms of
- 36:12Speaker 3: getting gutted, coach gone, star players gone, the people. Basically
- 36:16Speaker 3: the people that brought you to this competition are gone
- 36:20Speaker 3: for the most part, you know, and you kind of
- 36:23Speaker 3: have to do it on a different way that you
- 36:26Speaker 3: kind of got there. Is obviously not an ideal thing,
- 36:29Speaker 3: but it's gonna be huge. I think, you know, those
- 36:34Speaker 3: four games that especially for a team that hasn't touched
- 36:37Speaker 3: a competition of this, of this, of this magnitude and
- 36:40Speaker 3: in quite some time. Uh, it's uh, it's it's definitely
- 36:44Speaker 3: something to to cherish and win, win or lose. I
- 36:47Speaker 3: mean it's it's you know, they're not gonna they're not
- 36:49Speaker 3: gonna win them all, and hopefully they don't lose them all.
- 36:52Speaker 3: So we'll we'll see what happens. But I don't know,
- 36:54Speaker 3: I'm thinking I'm the I'm the least optimistic about is Milan.
- 36:59Speaker 3: I think that's kind of where my uh, you know,
- 37:02Speaker 3: my my sentiments are for that, because if you want
- 37:05Speaker 3: to talk about a team point bad, it's it's it's
- 37:08Speaker 3: me want.
- 37:13Speaker 1: Guys. I mean, look, we have sorry Johnny and Nick,
- 37:18Speaker 1: but uh, you know, Roma monopoly lots, so you guys
- 37:22Speaker 1: not aren't in it. But let's just say it. In
- 37:26Speaker 1: terms of betting odds, let's say as fans, let's say
- 37:28Speaker 1: as fans of Italian teams. Obviously me as fan IT fan,
- 37:33Speaker 1: you gotta go out odds and stuff. Do you guys
- 37:37Speaker 1: have any expectations at all from these Italian teams? Because
- 37:40Speaker 1: I know we just spoke out nauseam about Juve, but.
- 37:44Speaker 2: I expected to go the furthest Yeah, fur furthest.
- 37:52Speaker 3: Yeah. Like what do you think?
- 37:53Speaker 4: What do you think?
- 37:54Speaker 3: Like the points are Sorry to cut you off, Nick, Like,
- 37:56Speaker 3: that's so hard to say, Like what's the what's the what?
- 38:01Speaker 3: What's like a good number of points for them to
- 38:05Speaker 3: do we even finish like top eight or fish? Like,
- 38:08Speaker 3: we don't even know that, you.
- 38:09Speaker 5: Know, And that's that's the variable. And like to talk
- 38:13Speaker 5: about Bologna, right because as had their schedule pulled up,
- 38:17Speaker 5: you have a home game against Shaktar, which is the
- 38:19Speaker 5: first game. You have a home game against Leo to win.
- 38:22Speaker 5: If you have a chance of progressing, you have to
- 38:25Speaker 5: get six points in those two games. Right then you
- 38:28Speaker 5: look at the rest of their schedule, very difficult. Do
- 38:30Speaker 5: they pick up another win? Do they pick up two draws?
- 38:32Speaker 5: Now you're talking about eight points? Does eight points do it?
- 38:36Speaker 5: Like for any of these teams. I don't know because
- 38:38Speaker 5: they you know, there's eight teams that are going to
- 38:42Speaker 5: get eliminated, do we do we think there's teams who
- 38:45Speaker 5: aren't going to get two wins, Like it's just.
- 38:49Speaker 2: Every win is what two points to three?
- 38:50Speaker 3: Sorry?
- 38:51Speaker 2: I missed out on that point.
- 38:52Speaker 5: It should be three? Right?
- 38:53Speaker 3: Three?
- 38:53Speaker 1: Three?
- 38:53Speaker 5: Yeah?
- 38:54Speaker 2: Eight points does nothing?
- 38:57Speaker 5: Might be enough to get you really close to that.
- 39:01Speaker 3: You think eight points does something or does nothing? Sorry
- 39:03Speaker 3: I didn't. Johnny thinks nothing, and Janny, you think it
- 39:07Speaker 3: might and.
- 39:08Speaker 5: It's gonna be right. I mean, I think like nine
- 39:09Speaker 5: points is probably a nine to ten like has to
- 39:11Speaker 5: be the for for any team I would imagine, But
- 39:14Speaker 5: we don't know. I mean, like, how many points is
- 39:16Speaker 5: Celtic gonna? Guess?
- 39:17Speaker 2: It's fair enough.
- 39:19Speaker 1: It's a fair point.
- 39:20Speaker 5: He's brought Islaviac in the gap, like, yeah, I don't
- 39:22Speaker 5: know it's a.
- 39:23Speaker 1: Fair point because the max is eight times it's twenty
- 39:27Speaker 1: four points. Yeah, the way I see it, nine to ten,
- 39:30Speaker 1: it's fifty percent. It's yeah, you'll what's.
- 39:33Speaker 3: The max twenty four? He said, yeah, twenty four points.
- 39:36Speaker 1: Of the max eight times three, right, Johnny.
- 39:39Speaker 2: Eight times three is twenty four.
- 39:41Speaker 4: But the way I see, it's like, okay, so there's
- 39:44Speaker 4: hold on, let me just count the teams here, So
- 39:46Speaker 4: thirty six.
- 39:47Speaker 1: Yeah, the thing is so for you know, if you
- 39:51Speaker 1: get nine points for let's say twelve teams to finish
- 39:54Speaker 1: less than that, it's tough. I would say ten is
- 39:56Speaker 1: probably a bit more realistic.
- 39:59Speaker 3: Eight.
- 39:59Speaker 5: Sorry, I thought it was the state teams that got eliminated.
- 40:01Speaker 5: I'm gonna change my Yeah, even I don't even have
- 40:05Speaker 5: it's gonna be twelve.
- 40:07Speaker 4: It's top make make it for sure, and then from
- 40:10Speaker 4: ninth to twenty fourth you're in the playoffs to make
- 40:14Speaker 4: it into the next round.
- 40:15Speaker 3: Yeah. Well yeah, Nick explained it, but like, I don't
- 40:18Speaker 3: know it. Ten ten even seems too old in my opinion.
- 40:21Speaker 4: Might be Wait, I see, it's probably gonna be at
- 40:24Speaker 4: least two or three teams are gonna be undefeated for sure.
- 40:29Speaker 2: Yeah, they're probably. It's there's really like it's I honestly.
- 40:36Speaker 4: You think because my brain is kind of like using
- 40:39Speaker 4: like I know, it's let me please let me explain
- 40:42Speaker 4: before you guys laugh for interrupt me. So my brain
- 40:45Speaker 4: is kind of using the whole trading card game tournament
- 40:48Speaker 4: mentality where they have eight rounds of Swiss before they
- 40:51Speaker 4: do any type of top cut elimination round, right, and
- 40:54Speaker 4: it's all at the end of these rounds, there's always
- 40:56Speaker 4: gonna be maybe one to two teams or in this case,
- 41:00Speaker 4: decks that are always going to be undefeated, that are
- 41:02Speaker 4: always so I'm kind of and especially like in the
- 41:04Speaker 4: tournament of like thirty six teams, they're always is gonna
- 41:07Speaker 4: be like it's enough rounds to have like at least you're.
- 41:09Speaker 2: Gonna be like maybe one or two teams are gonna undefeated.
- 41:11Speaker 4: So maybe three was a bit over zealous when I
- 41:13Speaker 4: say on the feed and maybe just wins and draws,
- 41:15Speaker 4: but you know, you could like it's like to make
- 41:18Speaker 4: the like to make it to the top eight spot,
- 41:20Speaker 4: like you can't have more than I would have. Like
- 41:23Speaker 4: I'm gonna be a bit over zealous and say you
- 41:25Speaker 4: can't have more than one loss. If you already have
- 41:27Speaker 4: more than one loss, I don't think you're making that
- 41:28Speaker 4: top eight spot. Like you could have one loss and
- 41:30Speaker 4: a couple of draws is fine, but like you can't
- 41:33Speaker 4: have two plus losses.
- 41:34Speaker 3: So what so like it's like I say, like the
- 41:37Speaker 3: eighth place team, what what what's the lolways they can
- 41:39Speaker 3: have in terms.
- 41:40Speaker 4: Of I'm not saying that absolutely right, Like, it could
- 41:45Speaker 4: be like six one and two, like the eighth place team.
- 41:49Speaker 4: They could be sorry, that's that's nine games, my bad,
- 41:51Speaker 4: six one and one. It could be you know, it
- 41:53Speaker 4: could be like a it could be like a five
- 41:55Speaker 4: to one and two. Maybe it's hard because then you
- 41:58Speaker 4: have to compete with the other six one and one
- 42:00Speaker 4: sort of five one and two stye breakers that are
- 42:02Speaker 4: involved too.
- 42:02Speaker 1: Yeah, I think besides looking at the points, I think
- 42:05Speaker 1: three wins is probably good enough to get you through
- 42:08Speaker 1: in the top twenty four.
- 42:09Speaker 3: That's realy.
- 42:10Speaker 1: Let's say three wins, that's nine points. You know, maybe
- 42:13Speaker 1: a draw wins the draw.
- 42:16Speaker 3: As you're saying, yeah, yeah, I think at that minimum, yeah.
- 42:22Speaker 2: Four wins would put you. Four wins I think would
- 42:24Speaker 2: put you in the realm of a playoff spot.
- 42:26Speaker 3: I think twelve point twelve twelve points I think is
- 42:29Speaker 3: at the bare minimum. I think because ten is not enough,
- 42:32Speaker 3: I don't see it, and twelve is even for me,
- 42:34Speaker 3: it's even kind of iffy. But I would say.
- 42:36Speaker 4: Twelve, I would say three or less, Yeah, twelve points,
- 42:40Speaker 4: So three or less wins will probably put you in
- 42:43Speaker 4: the elimination zone.
- 42:43Speaker 2: I feel like that's probably what's gonna happen.
- 42:46Speaker 4: I think I think that's the minimum cut off because
- 42:48Speaker 4: but then again, it's the first time we see a
- 42:50Speaker 4: format like this, right, So it's so we don't even
- 42:53Speaker 4: know what the standard is.
- 42:54Speaker 2: We we're just we're just making educated guesses or in
- 42:57Speaker 2: the words of.
- 43:00Speaker 4: Educated, it's a unique format that.
- 43:07Speaker 3: Use. This thing is crazy And.
- 43:09Speaker 5: Like you said, you're down on Melan. Dude, I'm looking
- 43:12Speaker 5: at their fixtureless. It's that's difficult, tough, But dude, it's
- 43:16Speaker 5: it's front arted. I mean, the last four games, you
- 43:20Speaker 5: pretty much still control your own destiny.
- 43:22Speaker 3: Right.
- 43:23Speaker 5: Not easy, not easy to travel to the Czech Republic,
- 43:26Speaker 5: not easy to travel to Serbia.
- 43:28Speaker 3: But we can't even travel to part of mine. When
- 43:32Speaker 3: you imagine, imagine in Czech Republic.
- 43:34Speaker 5: Or whatever in their hands. Man, I don't know.
- 43:37Speaker 3: Yeah, it's gonna be tough. I think it's gonna be tough,
- 43:40Speaker 3: you know, to start off the tournament. You know, I
- 43:42Speaker 3: know it's it's cliche, but it's not the saying. You know,
- 43:45Speaker 3: it's not how you start, how you finish. But they
- 43:49Speaker 3: need some sort of hope at the beginning. They play
- 43:51Speaker 3: Liverpool tomorrow to kick things off. You know, they obviously
- 43:56Speaker 3: have a have a rivalry there historically in this competition.
- 43:59Speaker 3: You know, but again it's it's it's not the present,
- 44:02Speaker 3: it's not the past, it's the present. And you know,
- 44:04Speaker 3: what we're seeing on the pitch, we're gonna need to
- 44:06Speaker 3: see more in my opinions as as as a mean
- 44:08Speaker 3: fan and just you know, if if you support you know,
- 44:11Speaker 3: the league and you want to see it talent teams
- 44:13Speaker 3: do well, you're gonna you're gonna need to see more.
- 44:15Speaker 3: So it's gonna be tough. And because like we're saying,
- 44:19Speaker 3: you know, yeah, okay, those three wins, maybe maybe four
- 44:22Speaker 3: wins are gonna be good. But you know, there's you know,
- 44:26Speaker 3: what is it? How many teams are there? Thirty six teams?
- 44:28Speaker 3: You said in this competition, there's thirty five other teams
- 44:30Speaker 3: you're you're you're bottling against. And if and if you're
- 44:33Speaker 3: in a in a tiebreaker with I don't know, four
- 44:36Speaker 3: or five six teams at that you know, twenty like
- 44:40Speaker 3: eighteen to twenty four range there and you're maybe that
- 44:44Speaker 3: that automat not that odd team out at twenty five
- 44:46Speaker 3: or what have you know, it's I don't know how
- 44:49Speaker 3: the tie breakers are gonna work into as it goes
- 44:50Speaker 3: for is it is it what? I didn't really look
- 44:53Speaker 3: into it. I don't know if you guys know, but
- 44:56Speaker 3: it's gonna it's it's gonna be tough. So obviously finishing
- 44:59Speaker 3: strong is is good and there's quote unquote easier games
- 45:03Speaker 3: like like you're saying, and I agree with you there, Nick,
- 45:05Speaker 3: But I think the start is also important because you know,
- 45:10Speaker 3: if you start off already on the back foot. I
- 45:14Speaker 3: don't know currently how I how I feel about the team.
- 45:18Speaker 3: I don't know if they're gonna have enough to uh
- 45:20Speaker 3: to to finish the job when it counts.
- 45:23Speaker 1: Uh, you guys want to move over to Europa League
- 45:26Speaker 1: now we can get more Joanne involved and Nick as well.
- 45:30Speaker 1: So it's it's interesting because the Champions League starts this week,
- 45:34Speaker 1: but Europa League starts next week. That's because Champions League
- 45:37Speaker 1: has six games on Tuesday, six games on Wednesday, six
- 45:41Speaker 1: games on Thursday. Wow, and then uh, the Europa League
- 45:45Speaker 1: next week actually has games on Wednesday and Thursday. But
- 45:48Speaker 1: then after that is when they go back to the
- 45:51Speaker 1: regular you know, Champions League Tuesday, Wednesday, Europa League Thursday,
- 45:55Speaker 1: and I believe Conference League is on Thursday Thursday's two.
- 45:59Speaker 1: So your be league has same format as as Champions League,
- 46:02Speaker 1: thirty six teams, top eight uh go through to the
- 46:06Speaker 1: round of sixteen, ninth, ninth through twenty four knockout phase. EUROPEA,
- 46:11Speaker 1: the Conference league's a bit different because there are twenty
- 46:14Speaker 1: six teams. You only play six games in the league phase.
- 46:18Speaker 1: They only start, I think in October. But we're going
- 46:21Speaker 1: to focus on Europa League with Roman and Latzio. So
- 46:26Speaker 1: Roma's opponents are Eintrack, Frankfurt, Tottenham, Braga is easy, uh
- 46:35Speaker 1: Dinomkiev Union sat Gil was not gonna lie I've never
- 46:40Speaker 1: heard of this team, Bill yeah, and if elf I
- 46:47Speaker 1: f Elfsburg again not a team I've heard of. Lazio, Porto,
- 46:52Speaker 1: i ax Far and Virus Leon Victoria plays in Midgeland
- 46:57Speaker 1: RFS and Bashka's us in that Pot four is interesting
- 47:03Speaker 1: because I read the dam Man I read the wrong list.
- 47:08Speaker 1: I thought I thought Latcho was gonna be playing, but
- 47:10Speaker 1: streaked Us I read I'm track fact first list at
- 47:14Speaker 1: the end. Sorry, guys, it's Porto I as we all
- 47:17Speaker 1: associate that, Braga, Ludigretsnie and twenty. I was so excited
- 47:22Speaker 1: to see to Seemobile versus Latcho. I read the wrong
- 47:26Speaker 1: damn list. Oh well again, hard to predict how many
- 47:29Speaker 1: points you need, but if you already know what's gonna
- 47:32Speaker 1: happen to Roma, Yeah, but it feels like for Roma Lazo,
- 47:35Speaker 1: I don't know if they're the betting favorites. Obviously, menus
- 47:37Speaker 1: in this tournament is in this tournament. It's different this year, Nick,
- 47:41Speaker 1: because no teams from of the Champions League will go
- 47:43Speaker 1: down to Europa League after so this is really just
- 47:46Speaker 1: Europa League proper. So one of these teams right now
- 47:50Speaker 1: and the tournament is gonna win the thing, win the
- 47:51Speaker 1: whole thing. So obviously Roma Lacho, I don't know how
- 47:56Speaker 1: how how favored they are, Nick, Do you do you
- 47:59Speaker 1: know what the odds are on them?
- 48:00Speaker 5: Yeah, give me a second, let me just pull it up.
- 48:03Speaker 5: I was prepared.
- 48:06Speaker 1: I apologize, no, no, no.
- 48:08Speaker 2: In the meanwhile, well, while Nick does this the research,
- 48:10Speaker 2: I'm gonna add some humor to the pod.
- 48:13Speaker 4: I'm not a betting man, but if I was a
- 48:14Speaker 4: betting man, I already know exactly what Roma's record is
- 48:18Speaker 4: going to be in the Europa League.
- 48:20Speaker 2: Again four all four and four four losses, four draws.
- 48:25Speaker 4: That's how it's gonna be get eliminated from the Europa
- 48:28Speaker 4: League competition.
- 48:29Speaker 5: Roma is the third favorite. Plus eight hundred.
- 48:33Speaker 1: Bet who's your top two?
- 48:36Speaker 3: Man? You and uh and.
- 48:40Speaker 2: Top three?
- 48:41Speaker 5: That's a lot of that's a lot of Premier League
- 48:43Speaker 5: tax man. No way either of these teams really. I
- 48:48Speaker 5: mean maybe Tattenham as a decent squad, but.
- 48:51Speaker 3: I've been struggling terrible, Yeah, terrible.
- 48:55Speaker 5: They don't look good. So see that had a really
- 48:57Speaker 5: good year last year. They've fallen off their their right
- 49:00Speaker 5: up there. So romas plus eight hundred lots of just
- 49:04Speaker 5: plus fourteen hundred and.
- 49:07Speaker 2: I take I take that lats future.
- 49:11Speaker 5: I mean like it's I don't know, I feel like,
- 49:14Speaker 5: who's lots of coach?
- 49:16Speaker 3: That's a good pint, Michael, only about only time, baby,
- 49:21Speaker 3: I don't know this, Like.
- 49:23Speaker 2: If you guys would have kept Sady he has Europa
- 49:25Speaker 2: League experience.
- 49:26Speaker 5: Right, yeah, So this this competition too, to me is
- 49:31Speaker 5: just a complete blood bath. Right, there's the five six
- 49:35Speaker 5: teams that everybody's going to gravitate Torus because you know them.
- 49:38Speaker 5: The rest of these teams are like you want to
- 49:40Speaker 5: talk about travel go to some of these these venues,
- 49:44Speaker 5: man like it's going to be a blood bath. And
- 49:48Speaker 5: a lot of these teams have been in the Champions League, right,
- 49:51Speaker 5: Galatas Rise usually in the Champions League, I ex Bennerbotch,
- 49:56Speaker 5: some of the Greek teams that you know, none of
- 49:58Speaker 5: them I feel like made it this year, right, but
- 50:00Speaker 5: like Puk and like Piacos and teams like that. So
- 50:05Speaker 5: like the team that you've never heard of, like there's
- 50:09Speaker 5: going to be three or four or five of them
- 50:11Speaker 5: into the second round this year. It's just it's going
- 50:13Speaker 5: to be wild to watch, There's no question.
- 50:16Speaker 3: I think. Another point, like, I like, what again our
- 50:18Speaker 3: nick said there you know, no team from from Champions
- 50:21Speaker 3: League is coming down, So that's something not only is
- 50:23Speaker 3: it a new format, but that's something new as well.
- 50:25Speaker 3: We're not those those you know, third place teams that
- 50:29Speaker 3: are going to come down that are still more times
- 50:31Speaker 3: than not a heavy hitter is not coming down to
- 50:34Speaker 3: this competition. So that's also I think something to look
- 50:36Speaker 3: out for personally, just as you know, an outsider, I
- 50:40Speaker 3: think that's you know, just I don't know for me.
- 50:43Speaker 3: Not only is it, like I said, not only is
- 50:45Speaker 3: the format different, but you know, just not having that
- 50:48Speaker 3: pressure of oh my god, Barcelona's coming down or you know,
- 50:51Speaker 3: I don't know, I like to go was coming down,
- 50:54Speaker 3: or you know, Uva is coming down or whoever it is.
- 50:58Speaker 3: You know, like you don't have that worry anymore. You
- 51:01Speaker 3: kind of know what you're going to potentially come up
- 51:03Speaker 3: against later on in this bood bath of a competition.
- 51:07Speaker 3: But I think that's also just another thing to kind
- 51:10Speaker 3: of look out for. One thing I wanted to kind
- 51:12Speaker 3: of ask, you know, round table, and uh, does any
- 51:16Speaker 3: of the Italian teams get eliminated entirely and don't make
- 51:22Speaker 3: the top twenty four in your guys opinions for this
- 51:26Speaker 3: every Italian team? No, in just in both competitions in
- 51:29Speaker 3: the long Champions League and it's only Bologna. You guys
- 51:32Speaker 3: think that are not going to make it maybe.
- 51:34Speaker 1: If you're in the Europa League, but I don't know
- 51:37Speaker 1: about that. Their confidence they're conference sorry conference league, but
- 51:40Speaker 1: again got a.
- 51:41Speaker 5: Tough schedule too, man in the Champions League. I don't know.
- 51:46Speaker 3: So would we say it's only Bologna that doesn't make it?
- 51:49Speaker 5: Like it's definitely yeah, easily easily.
- 51:55Speaker 3: Okay, So Roma makes so Roma and lots. You'll make
- 51:58Speaker 3: it pass in YOURUYS opinion. Yeah, dude, we have you
- 52:05Speaker 3: guys here, so listen.
- 52:07Speaker 5: Latsio may not you gotta yeah, I don't. I don't
- 52:11Speaker 5: know where they're playing. I think their games are in
- 52:12Speaker 5: Germany this year, so traveling there maybe not as bad
- 52:18Speaker 5: as it normally would be. I think Nice is a
- 52:21Speaker 5: good team out of France. Twente is a team that's
- 52:24Speaker 5: given Latzio and Italian teams problems over the past five
- 52:27Speaker 5: six years. Porto is good, Ludigrettes. I think Latsio will
- 52:33Speaker 5: be happy to have that game at home. I Ax
- 52:35Speaker 5: away is tough, so Siadad is tough, Braga away in
- 52:39Speaker 5: Portugal is tough. I mean, I don't know what do
- 52:43Speaker 5: you What do we think we're getting out of this
- 52:45Speaker 5: Latsio squad? How I mean, I think they're gonna put
- 52:47Speaker 5: a little more importance on this competition compared to when
- 52:50Speaker 5: Saudi was in charge, So I you know, I do
- 52:53Speaker 5: like that. I think that they're a much younger team there.
- 52:58Speaker 5: I'm not going to say they're strong in terms of talent,
- 53:01Speaker 5: but they're probably a little better spread out in terms
- 53:04Speaker 5: of depth, you know, bringing guys like Usterviely. I think,
- 53:08Speaker 5: you know, if he's healthy, that's that's really good. I
- 53:10Speaker 5: think they have two or three guys off the wing
- 53:12Speaker 5: that could come in and play up front. So I
- 53:16Speaker 5: like what they've done. I think a reset was needed.
- 53:21Speaker 5: But if they put a little bit of emphasis on
- 53:23Speaker 5: this competition, they should be able to make the next round.
- 53:29Speaker 5: I mean, they're certainly not going to win the competition,
- 53:31Speaker 5: but it's not an easy it's not an easy draw,
- 53:34Speaker 5: but it's manageable. You know, if last year in Champions.
- 53:37Speaker 7: League you can make it out of a group with
- 53:39Speaker 7: Athletico and Iyanoid, who were the Dutch champions at the time,
- 53:45Speaker 7: you could make top eight, and then you know against
- 53:47Speaker 7: these teams, right, I think you.
- 53:49Speaker 3: Have to be able to mhm. There has to be
- 53:52Speaker 3: always a goal in mind. I think for these for
- 53:54Speaker 3: these teams, I know Jenny's not so high on Romans
- 53:58Speaker 3: chances with no wins, but I don't know. I think
- 54:02Speaker 3: that's before the wins.
- 54:03Speaker 2: They need to figure out how to score goals.
- 54:07Speaker 3: I think it's it's called it's commed, you know. I
- 54:13Speaker 3: think it's if it has to come. I think for
- 54:17Speaker 3: for them, I don't know, I'm maybe it's me trying
- 54:20Speaker 3: to be too optimistic. I don't know. Again, like kind
- 54:22Speaker 3: of maybe my point earlier. Maybe I'm just too optimistic
- 54:24Speaker 3: on it and and think more than what it is.
- 54:26Speaker 3: But and if I'm wrong, I'm wrong, that's that's totally fine.
- 54:30Speaker 5: But hold on, you guys brought me on. Let's talk
- 54:33Speaker 5: about Roma for a little bit here. I mean, Johnny,
- 54:38Speaker 5: I love you first and foremost. I mean, let's get
- 54:40Speaker 5: that out of the way. Let's put it inside.
- 54:42Speaker 1: Yes, I don't love your teams, but I love you.
- 54:44Speaker 5: A lot of my very good teams. A lot of
- 54:47Speaker 5: my very good friends are Roma fans, dude, you know
- 54:52Speaker 5: well the legends, And we went through a lot of
- 54:55Speaker 5: the same thing also, right, Like both of our teams
- 54:57Speaker 5: needed to move on from the manager. Both did it
- 55:00Speaker 5: around the same time, and I think we both naturally
- 55:04Speaker 5: got a boost from it, right. And I'm not trying
- 55:06Speaker 5: to knock that OSSI that Assi, to me is in
- 55:09Speaker 5: this class of all these guys like Pierlow is another
- 55:15Speaker 5: shining example of it. Right in Zogie people in Zogie
- 55:18Speaker 5: is another example of it, because they were players that
- 55:22Speaker 5: we adored and because they were legends of the game.
- 55:25Speaker 5: You know, we think they're automatically going to be great coaches,
- 55:27Speaker 5: and a lot of them, some of them turned out
- 55:29Speaker 5: to be okay, most of them haven't proven that yet.
- 55:32Speaker 5: Peerlow has been fired from every team he's been on, right,
- 55:34Speaker 5: So that Aussie was fired from what Sadi Setia chiat
- 55:37Speaker 5: team in the past. So was he ready to take
- 55:41Speaker 5: this on? It wasn't fair of him to take it on, right.
- 55:44Speaker 5: So I'm not saying I judge him if he fails,
- 55:46Speaker 5: but he may not have been ready for this.
- 55:48Speaker 3: Oh you're saying, you're saying what I was.
- 55:50Speaker 2: But I've been saying, yeah, your team that acquire right now?
- 55:53Speaker 5: You know, they fell off a cliff the last what
- 55:55Speaker 5: five six seven games of the season last year, and
- 55:58Speaker 5: yeah it was how they started this year. And you
- 56:01Speaker 5: got you know, Dibala, what was the saga he's going
- 56:03Speaker 5: to leave? He's not going to leave. Is he going
- 56:05Speaker 5: to be hurt? When Deballa's world class? Right when he's
- 56:09Speaker 5: on he's a little bit older, and now he's kind
- 56:12Speaker 5: of the guy that's dictating how the team has to
- 56:14Speaker 5: play in terms of formation. Pellegrini is affected. Baldante can't
- 56:19Speaker 5: really see as much game time as he should. What
- 56:22Speaker 5: a soule have to do to accommodate him. It's just
- 56:25Speaker 5: a weird, weird situation where like Roma's performances don't meet
- 56:31Speaker 5: their aspirations outside of winning that Europa League, right made
- 56:34Speaker 5: Champions League, and like what's the goal? And it's the
- 56:38Speaker 5: same question I ask about Loatzio, but like Roma actually
- 56:40Speaker 5: has a sid solid owner and investment behind them, So
- 56:43Speaker 5: like I just don't understand the vision and I don't
- 56:47Speaker 5: think it's necessarily dead Ossie's fault, but like I have
- 56:50Speaker 5: to agree with you, man, like what's the outlook in
- 56:52Speaker 5: this competition for the way they're playing right now, for
- 56:55Speaker 5: the way they've played the last six seven months.
- 56:57Speaker 4: No, like you're preaching acquaid it last week and many
- 57:01Speaker 4: weeks before, where I'm like, maybe he did Assie a
- 57:03Speaker 4: bit too much, much more than he can chew. I said,
- 57:07Speaker 4: like I last last week's episode, I said, I don't
- 57:10Speaker 4: say this in a way of me like crapping on
- 57:12Speaker 4: de Assie. I'm not saying this in a way of me,
- 57:14Speaker 4: you know, tarnishing Dedosie's legacy or whatever.
- 57:17Speaker 2: I'm just saying that, you know, it was very nice
- 57:19Speaker 2: of him to step up when he had to.
- 57:21Speaker 3: But I don't.
- 57:21Speaker 2: I think this was a bit more than he can handle.
- 57:23Speaker 3: Uh.
- 57:24Speaker 4: You know, like I said that he needs to learn
- 57:25Speaker 4: how to adapt to his roster. I think his roster
- 57:27Speaker 4: is too much star quality for him to handle. In
- 57:30Speaker 4: terms of like like sure you can put him as
- 57:32Speaker 4: as an assistant manager. I think he'd be great. We
- 57:34Speaker 4: have we have past history, past issue to show like
- 57:37Speaker 4: he was he was he was an equipment manager slash,
- 57:40Speaker 4: you know, assistant coach for the for the for the Euros,
- 57:42Speaker 4: and you know, the team did very well.
- 57:44Speaker 2: And I think in a mentor role so to speak.
- 57:46Speaker 4: Like that, like not that's the main voice in the
- 57:48Speaker 4: in the dressing room, but as like a supportive voice,
- 57:51Speaker 4: I think he'd be perfect.
- 57:52Speaker 2: Right now, he's not ready to be the leading voice.
- 57:55Speaker 4: So I just think it's because it almost like, Okay,
- 57:57Speaker 4: well we're gonna get it of Morino just a little bit.
- 57:59Speaker 2: Earlier than his contract.
- 58:01Speaker 3: Uh.
- 58:01Speaker 4: And the easiest cheapest cost for us right now would
- 58:04Speaker 4: be Daniellly that I'll see. I think the only reason
- 58:06Speaker 4: why management went with that is because he's a bandetta.
- 58:08Speaker 4: You definitely take it for no matter what price we
- 58:11Speaker 4: throw at him. Uh, the fans won't hate the decision
- 58:14Speaker 4: because we get that. A'll see, because the fans, no
- 58:16Speaker 4: matter what, it's that o's see, we're gonna get They're
- 58:18Speaker 4: gonna get behind them no matter what.
- 58:19Speaker 2: So it kind of softens the blow a bit.
- 58:21Speaker 4: This was management essentially just protecting themselves from the pushback
- 58:26Speaker 4: of friyan Mourinho, even though the fans are kind of like,
- 58:28Speaker 4: I wasn't a fan that was getting fed up with Mourinho.
- 58:30Speaker 4: I know he's frustrating and stuff, but the man's pedigrees
- 58:33Speaker 4: in international competitions and Rome always did well international competitions
- 58:36Speaker 4: with him. Yeah, you know, like they didn't hit top
- 58:38Speaker 4: four when they always want to, and it sucks. It is,
- 58:41Speaker 4: it does suck, But City A has gotten tougher. It's
- 58:43Speaker 4: gotten tougher in terms of hitting that top four mark.
- 58:46Speaker 4: It's it's you have to like a lot of the
- 58:48Speaker 4: top four teams usually is because they get hot at
- 58:49Speaker 4: the right moment.
- 58:51Speaker 2: So what I'm trying to my brother apologize for that.
- 59:00Speaker 1: There's some gonna beating in the box.
- 59:02Speaker 2: One second.
- 59:03Speaker 1: Let me just be my mic.
- 59:06Speaker 3: The honey the honeymoon, the honeymoon phase.
- 59:08Speaker 4: With yeah, sorry sorry, back on all my family and
- 59:12Speaker 4: just obviously I tell them, guys, be quiet and doing
- 59:14Speaker 4: my podcast.
- 59:15Speaker 2: Everyone starts yelling. That's how it usually goes.
- 59:18Speaker 1: It's just normal. Then it's normal.
- 59:21Speaker 4: About a few years ago, when I was trying to
- 59:23Speaker 4: get my teaching degree done at the University Laval, I
- 59:26Speaker 4: had to do an entrance exam to assess my French,
- 59:28Speaker 4: my French competency, and I told them, guys, I'm doing
- 59:31Speaker 4: a French exam.
- 59:32Speaker 2: It's it's live on camera.
- 59:34Speaker 4: I cannot I cannot have any noise in the background
- 59:36Speaker 4: because automatic fail. I'm doing that this time to this time.
- 59:39Speaker 4: Please any total silence in the house. I asked them
- 59:42Speaker 4: to do that, not kidding them. First minute as I
- 59:45Speaker 4: start the exam. One minute in, my brother yells the
- 59:48Speaker 4: room next door, well, where the fuck is my lunch.
- 59:56Speaker 3: Now? Man?
- 1:00:00Speaker 4: Uh anyways, but back to the whole that ussy thing.
- 1:00:03Speaker 4: Just I think it's the guy who was just put
- 1:00:07Speaker 4: in a position where you was set up to fail.
- 1:00:10Speaker 2: I'm I'm not mad at him. I don't blame put
- 1:00:12Speaker 2: this blame at at all on him.
- 1:00:14Speaker 3: I I.
- 1:00:16Speaker 2: Know that it's too much for him to handle.
- 1:00:18Speaker 4: The players are not like I'm pretty sure the players
- 1:00:21Speaker 4: don't hate the guy because you know they they probably
- 1:00:23Speaker 4: understand the situation that he is in too. And I'm
- 1:00:25Speaker 4: pretty sure the players are trying their best because if
- 1:00:28Speaker 4: you look what they're expected goals last game was two
- 1:00:30Speaker 4: points something. They were expected to score more than one offense.
- 1:00:33Speaker 4: And every game if you watch their games offensively, they
- 1:00:36Speaker 4: are producing chances. It's not they just can't capitalize.
- 1:00:40Speaker 3: I don't know what it is.
- 1:00:41Speaker 2: Just there's just no there's no closing killer instinct, you know.
- 1:00:44Speaker 4: And and if maybe maybe, like Nick Deanni said before,
- 1:00:50Speaker 4: like dove Bick will eventually come in and like eventually
- 1:00:52Speaker 4: like start picking up the pace which he needs to
- 1:00:55Speaker 4: he needs to. You you lose Lukaku from last year,
- 1:00:58Speaker 4: so dove Bick is you're now your true number nine.
- 1:01:01Speaker 2: You need him to be that number nine, you know,
- 1:01:02Speaker 2: like ma say, Lukaku was some kind of savior last year.
- 1:01:05Speaker 2: But the guy wasn't poor either.
- 1:01:06Speaker 3: Last year.
- 1:01:07Speaker 2: He was a he had a good season. He was
- 1:01:08Speaker 2: finishing up those chances.
- 1:01:10Speaker 4: So if if you need Dovviick to be that finisher
- 1:01:15Speaker 4: and the guy so far now he's he finally scored
- 1:01:17Speaker 4: four games in Uh, maybe he needed an adjustment period.
- 1:01:21Speaker 2: You know, who's to say, But at the end of
- 1:01:23Speaker 2: the day, you're a professional, you know.
- 1:01:24Speaker 4: CIDIA is a tough league to play in defensively, because
- 1:01:28Speaker 4: all the managers are tactically strong. The managers are tactically strong,
- 1:01:32Speaker 4: whether they're the higher ups or the lower downs, it's
- 1:01:34Speaker 4: like they still have an idea of how to how
- 1:01:36Speaker 4: to manage against certain teams. That's why we see these
- 1:01:39Speaker 4: surprise upsets every once in a while, Like that's why
- 1:01:40Speaker 4: we see Amplely getting all these great results, you know,
- 1:01:43Speaker 4: like for a team, but that quality of a roster,
- 1:01:45Speaker 4: not saying that they're a terrible team, but they're not
- 1:01:47Speaker 4: a strong team either. So tactically ded Austin doesn't have
- 1:01:51Speaker 4: that that super ability to keep up with the rest
- 1:01:53Speaker 4: of the managers. So he needs his talent to kind
- 1:01:55Speaker 4: of step up. And if his talent's not stepping up,
- 1:01:58Speaker 4: and that's why that's why you get with only two
- 1:02:01Speaker 4: goals in so far this season in four games, and
- 1:02:03Speaker 4: they're looking at the bottom ten right now. They're very
- 1:02:06Speaker 4: close to the relegation zone, which is something I've never
- 1:02:08Speaker 4: seen in my life, you know, like I've never.
- 1:02:10Speaker 2: Seen them this low before.
- 1:02:11Speaker 4: So twenty four games in there's still a lot more
- 1:02:14Speaker 4: to play for. That's why transitioning into Europa League competition
- 1:02:19Speaker 4: gets much stiffer. But maybe silver lining the factor sho'm
- 1:02:23Speaker 4: playing against domestic competition, you might have that edge in
- 1:02:28Speaker 4: terms of like knowledge of tactics or maybe player quality,
- 1:02:32Speaker 4: knowing how to you know, shut like counterplay or whatnot.
- 1:02:35Speaker 4: So I hope that some divine intervention happens and that's
- 1:02:39Speaker 4: what that's the actual experience for Europa League. But if
- 1:02:41Speaker 4: we're going with the consistent results so far, I'm gonna
- 1:02:44Speaker 4: go four and four, I'm saying four losses, four draws,
- 1:02:48Speaker 4: lock it in.
- 1:02:49Speaker 2: They're gonna get eliminated for Europa League.
- 1:02:51Speaker 5: To true, it's a tough like that's the question I have, Right,
- 1:02:55Speaker 5: Like your team that has aspirations, you let Tamby go
- 1:03:00Speaker 5: and like that. I don't understand, right, you're trying to
- 1:03:03Speaker 5: cut wages or financial fair player or some other bullshit.
- 1:03:05Speaker 5: Okay I could, but like you're trying to improve your squad.
- 1:03:09Speaker 5: You don't just have one like all these every team
- 1:03:10Speaker 5: in Italy, right with maybe one to two exceptions, as
- 1:03:13Speaker 5: one striker, you need to go to somebody off the bench.
- 1:03:16Speaker 5: You can't do it somebody gets hurt. Oh well, fucked right.
- 1:03:20Speaker 5: So you're taking a guy that scored twenty five goals
- 1:03:24Speaker 5: almost thirty goals two years ago. Granted he got hurt.
- 1:03:26Speaker 5: I understand that, but you don't lose your talent like that.
- 1:03:29Speaker 5: That to me was just you know, I couldn't comprehend
- 1:03:32Speaker 5: that move. Good for Melan, I think it's a smart
- 1:03:34Speaker 5: shirt pickup, But you want to compete and try to
- 1:03:38Speaker 5: make top four, you want to try to make it
- 1:03:40Speaker 5: out of your group in this Europa League. I don't know, man,
- 1:03:43Speaker 5: you can't expect DOM to think I think it'll.
- 1:03:46Speaker 4: I think it's just because they're trying to go with
- 1:03:48Speaker 4: a whole false nine mentality of a formation.
- 1:03:50Speaker 2: I think that's that's that's what they're trying to go for.
- 1:03:53Speaker 4: I mean, hey, in terms of fin the cultural reasons,
- 1:03:55Speaker 4: I'm not mad because I have Ye Tammy and leau
- 1:03:58Speaker 4: My as two of my three forwards, so I'm good.
- 1:04:00Speaker 4: I kind of it's often's the blow bit, but I
- 1:04:03Speaker 4: guess for them, they just fell like, Okay, they have
- 1:04:05Speaker 4: so much talent up quote unquote talent upfront.
- 1:04:07Speaker 2: Maybe Tammy's expendable.
- 1:04:09Speaker 4: I do agree though, that it sucks because it'd be
- 1:04:11Speaker 4: nice to have do like the whole you know whatnot
- 1:04:14Speaker 4: believed in terms of like you have your starting striker
- 1:04:17Speaker 4: and then you had Simone come off on the bench,
- 1:04:18Speaker 4: you know, just like you know as the one two
- 1:04:20Speaker 4: bunch as the finisher. Maybe you could do the same thing.
- 1:04:22Speaker 4: Maybe instead of having Tammy as a starter, you have
- 1:04:24Speaker 4: top pick and then you just then you just put
- 1:04:25Speaker 4: in Tammy for the last twenty five thirty minutes, or
- 1:04:27Speaker 4: you can do vice versa because that both players are
- 1:04:29Speaker 4: capable of doing vice versa. Yeah, you know, Tammy missed
- 1:04:32Speaker 4: out the entire season last year with that injury. The
- 1:04:35Speaker 4: talent's still there, he's he's still a really good player.
- 1:04:39Speaker 2: I don't know why the prem never saw that. He
- 1:04:41Speaker 2: still has a lot of talent, you know, it's we're.
- 1:04:43Speaker 3: Seeing it with Still he's still relatively young.
- 1:04:47Speaker 4: I think, like what twenty seven twenty I don't know,
- 1:04:50Speaker 4: but he's six twenty six, I think, Abraham.
- 1:04:53Speaker 1: Let's see, I'm not sure, twenty seven in two weeks.
- 1:04:58Speaker 3: In two weeks, okay, So like relatively relatively young, I
- 1:05:02Speaker 3: mean there's still there's still something to give. I think
- 1:05:05Speaker 3: there's still something in the tank. There so far it's
- 1:05:07Speaker 3: been okay. I mean on was Gonn gonna be wrong?
- 1:05:09Speaker 3: He scored over the weekend. Uh, you know that's that's great.
- 1:05:12Speaker 3: But yeah, I think it's more. And we spoke about
- 1:05:16Speaker 3: this deal before it happened, and then obviously after it happened,
- 1:05:19Speaker 3: you know, with the whole swap with soule Makers and Tammy,
- 1:05:21Speaker 3: and I think and I think we kind of mean
- 1:05:24Speaker 3: Johnny both agree it was In my opinion, it's it's
- 1:05:27Speaker 3: still more of a plus for me one then than
- 1:05:29Speaker 3: it would be for for for for roma in terms
- 1:05:33Speaker 3: of just even the position player. Because now, like we're saying,
- 1:05:36Speaker 3: like if if Dove it goes down, like who do you, like,
- 1:05:39Speaker 3: God forbid it doesn't happen, or you know what if
- 1:05:41Speaker 3: he dries up and you need something off the bench,
- 1:05:43Speaker 3: who do you turn to as your as your quote
- 1:05:46Speaker 3: unquote number nine year striker. Like, I don't know, I
- 1:05:49Speaker 3: really don't see another option, the false nine. I'm really
- 1:05:52Speaker 3: just not a fan of person. That's my personal take.
- 1:05:55Speaker 3: But it's just for me, it's it's I don't know,
- 1:05:59Speaker 3: I'm not a fan of that formation. But that's you know,
- 1:06:01Speaker 3: here nor there. But I don't know, Uh, you know,
- 1:06:04Speaker 3: I think do big is it's gonna I think it's
- 1:06:05Speaker 3: gonna be more of a work in progress. He scored finally,
- 1:06:08Speaker 3: everybody was behind him. You saw it, and listen. I
- 1:06:11Speaker 3: think everybody still is playing for the Ross. I think
- 1:06:13Speaker 3: things will come around for Roma. How fast or how
- 1:06:17Speaker 3: so that will take. Only time will tell. But you know,
- 1:06:21Speaker 3: I don't know Roma. I mean Milan has done time
- 1:06:25Speaker 3: and time again with burning legends as coaches. We've seen
- 1:06:28Speaker 3: it multiple times over the years. Hopefully Roma is not,
- 1:06:31Speaker 3: you know, part of that same uh same thing, But
- 1:06:35Speaker 3: we'll see. I think that that. I don't think he's lost.
- 1:06:38Speaker 3: I don't think that ROSSI even though maybe he's been
- 1:06:40Speaker 3: more than he can true, you can see all these things.
- 1:06:42Speaker 3: That's fine. He hasn't lost the locker room. I still
- 1:06:44Speaker 3: think the players are playing for him. I think they're
- 1:06:47Speaker 3: in my eyes looking outside in. I know Johnny knows
- 1:06:50Speaker 3: more than me, but uh, they're still playing for him.
- 1:06:53Speaker 3: I think they're still buying into what he's what he's
- 1:06:54Speaker 3: laying out there. And I think obviously they're all as
- 1:06:57Speaker 3: a as a unit. They want to do well, and
- 1:06:58Speaker 3: they want to progress in and competitions, and they want
- 1:07:01Speaker 3: to see the to as far as they possibly can,
- 1:07:03Speaker 3: so I think it'll come, but it's gonna be a
- 1:07:06Speaker 3: tough road to get there.
- 1:07:08Speaker 1: Lastly, guys, I just wanted to quickly bring up Conference
- 1:07:11Speaker 1: League since uh Fuarantina is in it. I got confused.
- 1:07:15Speaker 1: It's the same format again, thirty six teams. It's just
- 1:07:18Speaker 1: that they play six games instead of eight. So that's
- 1:07:21Speaker 1: why I thought there was less teams because they play
- 1:07:23Speaker 1: less games. But no, they just play less games. I
- 1:07:26Speaker 1: guess by you know Yuepha's choice. A lot of teams
- 1:07:29Speaker 1: you've never heard of, a lot of new teams have
- 1:07:31Speaker 1: never even played in European competition, so for them, obviously
- 1:07:35Speaker 1: you know this is this is great, including a team
- 1:07:37Speaker 1: called Noah from Armenia and the New Saints from Wales.
- 1:07:43Speaker 1: So not the New Orleans Saints.
- 1:07:44Speaker 3: The New Saints, so not the Old Saints.
- 1:07:48Speaker 1: Not the Old Saints.
- 1:07:50Speaker 5: Let's see go to Armenia. Be the first team to
- 1:07:52Speaker 5: go to Armenia in this competition. Let me know how
- 1:07:55Speaker 5: they make out. Like, let's let's keep an eye on that, right,
- 1:07:57Speaker 5: I don't want to be a team that Guys, there
- 1:07:59Speaker 5: that sphere is going to be like nothing else.
- 1:08:02Speaker 1: Well, for sure, for sure. So obviously the only one
- 1:08:05Speaker 1: Italian team is Fiorentina. So they play Lask Lask or
- 1:08:12Speaker 1: Lasak MD where you got your eye surgery from Austria,
- 1:08:16Speaker 1: Apple from no.
- 1:08:17Speaker 3: Sponsor by the way, guys, no sponsored.
- 1:08:19Speaker 1: Sponsor sponsor, Victoria dig Gleamytish from Portugal, the New Saints
- 1:08:25Speaker 1: from Wales, Saint Gallen from Switzerland, and Paphos from Cyprus
- 1:08:32Speaker 1: another of those teams who have never played in the
- 1:08:34Speaker 1: European competition. Look at the teams in this competition, Chelsea
- 1:08:38Speaker 1: stands out, but I mean Fiorentina, considering they went all
- 1:08:41Speaker 1: the way to the final last season, they have to
- 1:08:43Speaker 1: be one of the favorites too, right.
- 1:08:45Speaker 5: Nick, third betting favorites. So you know that Chelsea plus
- 1:08:48Speaker 5: one eighty five real Patis is plus four hundred, Fiorentina
- 1:08:51Speaker 5: plus five hundred. That makes sense.
- 1:08:53Speaker 1: I think that's fair.
- 1:08:54Speaker 5: Yeah, every other I mean the next you know, Pathanicos
- 1:08:57Speaker 5: get Copenhagen, those are the the next teams after that
- 1:09:02Speaker 5: at right after them plus sixteen hundred. All about plus.
- 1:09:06Speaker 3: Sixteen hundred's the big plus twenty five hundred.
- 1:09:09Speaker 5: So no, they have to be favored. I mean I'm
- 1:09:14Speaker 5: a little worried just at how they've started the season
- 1:09:17Speaker 5: and also they really struggled and qualifying. They played a
- 1:09:20Speaker 5: team out of I want to say Austria, right if
- 1:09:27Speaker 5: somebody or Hungry, one of those countries.
- 1:09:29Speaker 3: And yeah, yeah, they went they went toward Academy.
- 1:09:34Speaker 5: And they didn't look good. So that was that was
- 1:09:38Speaker 5: a struggle. So that does worry me a little bit.
- 1:09:40Speaker 5: It's kind of weird to me that a team, you know,
- 1:09:43Speaker 5: that makes it to the final of the year prior
- 1:09:44Speaker 5: has to go into qualifying. But maybe they'll toughen them
- 1:09:47Speaker 5: up a little bit, but they haven't started the season
- 1:09:49Speaker 5: that well and I kind of like their squat.
- 1:09:51Speaker 3: Right there too though quite a few changes, yeah, a lot.
- 1:09:55Speaker 5: Of changes new coach, but they they you know, we've
- 1:10:00Speaker 5: seen that they have aspirations to do well in this
- 1:10:02Speaker 5: competition and I think they at least deserve to be,
- 1:10:05Speaker 5: you know, co favorites or in the top three, no
- 1:10:08Speaker 5: doubt about it. They should. You know, you want me
- 1:10:11Speaker 5: to say confidently, if the Italian team is going to
- 1:10:13Speaker 5: make it out of the first phase, I think the
- 1:10:16Speaker 5: team is going to make it out of that first thing.
- 1:10:17Speaker 3: That's the bet. That's the bat guy. So listen to Bianni,
- 1:10:20Speaker 3: that's that's the surefire. But no, I think I think
- 1:10:23Speaker 3: they finally have to get I don't know if they
- 1:10:25Speaker 3: have to, but I think it would be nice for
- 1:10:27Speaker 3: them to finally get over that hump, you know, making it?
- 1:10:29Speaker 3: Did they make it in the final twice in a row,
- 1:10:30Speaker 3: two years, two years in a row? Right, forgot that
- 1:10:33Speaker 3: right and they they end up boosing both of them?
- 1:10:37Speaker 3: Was a west Ham and no Sevilla. I can't think
- 1:10:42Speaker 3: of the first teams.
- 1:10:44Speaker 1: West was twenty twenty three. I forgared who they lost
- 1:10:46Speaker 1: to last year.
- 1:10:47Speaker 3: It was west Ham the first year, and then Washo
- 1:10:50Speaker 3: I think was Sevilla?
- 1:10:51Speaker 5: No somebody from Portugal?
- 1:10:53Speaker 3: No? Was it Portugal? Okay, anyways, well I was going to.
- 1:10:57Speaker 1: Get Bacosco teams.
- 1:11:01Speaker 3: True, true, true, true true true.
- 1:11:02Speaker 1: Now they're playing against Cyprus teams, so you know they
- 1:11:05Speaker 1: get downgraded on the islands.
- 1:11:06Speaker 3: Yeah, they go for a vacation after to Greece there,
- 1:11:09Speaker 3: but no, it's I think it would be nice for
- 1:11:12Speaker 3: them to maybe finally get over the hump. Two finals
- 1:11:14Speaker 3: in two back to back years. Again, I know I
- 1:11:17Speaker 3: agree with Danny. I think I like their squad I
- 1:11:19Speaker 3: think it's a change in squad, so you can't really say, okay, yeah,
- 1:11:22Speaker 3: they made two years in a row and now that
- 1:11:24Speaker 3: where you know they should be there again. I think
- 1:11:26Speaker 3: it's it's it's you know, managic expectation, I think, is
- 1:11:29Speaker 3: what I would say. But you know, I like their chances.
- 1:11:32Speaker 3: Obviously they're you know, in the top three betting wise too,
- 1:11:35Speaker 3: so if you want to make some money maybe on
- 1:11:37Speaker 3: a future is bet there it would be an interesting
- 1:11:39Speaker 3: way to go as well. But I think, you know,
- 1:11:42Speaker 3: new coach, a coach that has obviously no European competition
- 1:11:45Speaker 3: experience in Palladino, which is something to look at. But
- 1:11:49Speaker 3: again I don't know. I've personally liked Pauladino. Uh you
- 1:11:53Speaker 3: know Amonza and just his his his his come up
- 1:11:57Speaker 3: and not to Fierdentina. A bigger a bigger market, a
- 1:11:59Speaker 3: bigger Yatsa. So it's it's it's obviously a bigger step
- 1:12:02Speaker 3: for him. But you know, even though they watched some
- 1:12:04Speaker 3: key players, you know, Niko Gonzalez, Milenkovic, you know, to
- 1:12:08Speaker 3: name a few, I still I don't know. For me,
- 1:12:12Speaker 3: I like their squad. I think it's not a finished product.
- 1:12:16Speaker 3: I don't think there's a lot of pieces from here
- 1:12:19Speaker 3: and there grabbing you know, the Keens, the Bolvas of
- 1:12:21Speaker 3: the world, you know, kind of just plug and play.
- 1:12:23Speaker 3: But at the same time, I still like their squad
- 1:12:26Speaker 3: and I think, you know, they have I think they
- 1:12:30Speaker 3: have a fighting chance to to do well. You know,
- 1:12:33Speaker 3: maybe again, I don't know who they're Nick said who
- 1:12:36Speaker 3: they're playing, but I don't know, you know, if and
- 1:12:39Speaker 3: when they'll play the Chelsea's of the world or the
- 1:12:41Speaker 3: you know, the real Betises of the world. But I
- 1:12:45Speaker 3: don't know. I would just for me personally, just like
- 1:12:47Speaker 3: their chances.
- 1:12:51Speaker 5: Agree a lot of a lot of players with something
- 1:12:53Speaker 5: to prove, which I like, right you talked about you know,
- 1:12:57Speaker 5: cast away from his team team, and I love Nico's
- 1:13:04Speaker 5: opinion on him because like it's a guy. To me,
- 1:13:07Speaker 5: his head hasn't always been there, but the talent's definitely there, right.
- 1:13:11Speaker 3: Like, you know, still young, still young.
- 1:13:14Speaker 5: He scored you know last year obviously had a terrible year,
- 1:13:17Speaker 5: but you know, you scored almost thirty goals a PSG.
- 1:13:21Speaker 5: I don't I don't care who you are. You scored
- 1:13:22Speaker 5: in the thirty goals. I don't care what league it is. Yeah,
- 1:13:25Speaker 5: you know, that's something to there's something there.
- 1:13:28Speaker 3: He's on the pitch. You need to be on the
- 1:13:29Speaker 3: pitch to score, right, So.
- 1:13:31Speaker 5: He's got what four or five goals already this year
- 1:13:33Speaker 5: between competitions, so I definitely like to start that he's
- 1:13:36Speaker 5: off to. I think Coponi is really a good player.
- 1:13:39Speaker 5: So I think there are pieces there for sure. Like
- 1:13:42Speaker 5: I said, they a lot of guys with something to prove,
- 1:13:45Speaker 5: and I think that's a good strategy for, you know,
- 1:13:47Speaker 5: to get a hungry team, especially in a competition like this.
- 1:13:51Speaker 1: Absolutely, but it's funny Chelsea. They could become the first
- 1:13:56Speaker 1: team to win the Champions League, Europa League and Conference League.
- 1:13:59Speaker 1: So oh, I don't know how serious, how serious they're
- 1:14:03Speaker 1: going to take this competition. We'll probably see some of
- 1:14:06Speaker 1: their players that they'll you know, I know they have
- 1:14:09Speaker 1: a lot of depth. They always send out plenty forty
- 1:14:12Speaker 1: guys on on loan, but maybe they're copy keeping a
- 1:14:15Speaker 1: couple of them this year the playing uh these games
- 1:14:17Speaker 1: in Champions League.
- 1:14:19Speaker 3: Sorry, Comin has already done it though he's three, you know,
- 1:14:21Speaker 3: hasn't he already done.
- 1:14:22Speaker 1: It as a coach? Yeah, but not not one club.
- 1:14:24Speaker 1: But I don't think any club.
- 1:14:26Speaker 5: Is that the thing that there their conference league roster
- 1:14:29Speaker 5: can look completely different than their page, like they can
- 1:14:33Speaker 5: submit an entire entire It's insane.
- 1:14:37Speaker 3: Their loney squad, their lone squad can compete in conferencely,
- 1:14:41Speaker 3: That's how crazy it is.
- 1:14:43Speaker 1: They're probably all loaned out to the New Saints in Wales.
- 1:14:47Speaker 3: And and and the Cyprus team.
- 1:14:50Speaker 1: But guys, I think, uh, I think that'll do it
- 1:14:52Speaker 1: for us, unless you guys have other questions for I.
- 1:14:54Speaker 3: Think just before we wrap it up, wrap it up.
- 1:14:56Speaker 3: I think just one thing I wanted to add in
- 1:14:59Speaker 3: before we wrap it up is big weekend in Sadiya
- 1:15:01Speaker 3: this weekend, not only to mention you know you're uh
- 1:15:05Speaker 3: Champion League Europe week conference and all that stuff is
- 1:15:07Speaker 3: coming back in these next weeks. Uh, Big weekend in Sarayah.
- 1:15:11Speaker 3: Some big matchups. The Juve NAPO game, the debby I
- 1:15:17Speaker 3: think obviously are to two games to look at. Nick,
- 1:15:20Speaker 3: remind me who's who's Alat playing Fidentina. I think that's
- 1:15:24Speaker 3: still a respectable matchup this week. So big weekend in Sarayah.
- 1:15:29Speaker 3: I think some some big tests, uh for for some
- 1:15:32Speaker 3: of these teams. We said a bit before you came
- 1:15:34Speaker 3: on Danny about you know, Juve and up there. You know,
- 1:15:37Speaker 3: these are some some big tests now, especially for ANAPA.
- 1:15:41Speaker 3: They're really their first two maybe big test. You know,
- 1:15:45Speaker 3: me one is gonna get destroyed by INTE over the
- 1:15:47Speaker 3: weekend in the derby. But you know that's nor here
- 1:15:49Speaker 3: nor there. But I say that as a reverse reverse jinks.
- 1:15:54Speaker 3: You know, I want that hopefully to put that in
- 1:15:56Speaker 3: the atmosphere. Hopefully something magically happens. But yeah, I know,
- 1:16:01Speaker 3: I just I wanted to throw the guys big matchups
- 1:16:03Speaker 3: on this weekend. Said yeah, match day, match day five,
- 1:16:05Speaker 3: so definitely tune in.
- 1:16:08Speaker 5: Top almost top the top.
- 1:16:11Speaker 3: Yeah, it is the top, top top versus bottom, Top
- 1:16:14Speaker 3: versus David talking about David versus Goliath.
- 1:16:17Speaker 1: And if you imagine you asked, if you asked someone
- 1:16:20Speaker 1: that being the season, if this would be a top
- 1:16:22Speaker 1: versus bottom game, they'd be like the top Union. Well,
- 1:16:26Speaker 1: switch through.
- 1:16:29Speaker 2: Reverse all four and four Roma against.
- 1:16:33Speaker 1: Was it three three one?
- 1:16:35Speaker 3: And I haven't lost the game?
- 1:16:36Speaker 5: Right?
- 1:16:37Speaker 2: Is that?
- 1:16:37Speaker 1: That's crazy?
- 1:16:38Speaker 5: What a comeback today to huh?
- 1:16:40Speaker 3: And they were down to goals? Yeah, I saw. I
- 1:16:42Speaker 3: didn't see the game, but I saw the I saw
- 1:16:44Speaker 3: the score update at the end there they you know,
- 1:16:46Speaker 3: they really turned around and yeah, I know you're you're
- 1:16:50Speaker 3: big on it, but were they weren't they? Were they not?
- 1:16:52Speaker 3: Were not talking about this that they were a relegation
- 1:16:54Speaker 3: side team last season?
- 1:16:56Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely, on your.
- 1:16:57Speaker 3: We said it on your show. I think about I
- 1:16:59Speaker 3: don't know the year they escape.
- 1:17:01Speaker 5: I think we got back three points or four.
- 1:17:03Speaker 1: Points, kind of had to come in and save them.
- 1:17:06Speaker 5: Yeah, so I mean they had something like what eighteen
- 1:17:10Speaker 5: draws or something really.
- 1:17:12Speaker 3: Really really really Yes, I remember that, and that's that
- 1:17:15Speaker 3: was what It was a big talking point at the
- 1:17:17Speaker 3: end of the season. And I remember coming on Kicks
- 1:17:19Speaker 3: and Picks and we kind of spoke about it. And again, listen,
- 1:17:22Speaker 3: it's only four games. We can ship, we can say,
- 1:17:25Speaker 3: we can do what we can say. But it's pretty crazy,
- 1:17:27Speaker 3: you know, right, three wins, one draw, four games. Their
- 1:17:30Speaker 3: matchups hasn't been obviously the biggest teams. I don't think
- 1:17:34Speaker 3: they'd be. Okay, sorry, maybe lots of sorry to all
- 1:17:38Speaker 3: the lots of lots of you out there, but no,
- 1:17:42Speaker 3: but listen, it's it's it's something and who's the coach
- 1:17:44Speaker 3: reminded me of who's coaching them, not.
- 1:17:51Speaker 1: Just one of one of yeah, one of three non
- 1:17:55Speaker 1: Italian coaches in the city and the only one that's
- 1:17:59Speaker 1: not from Mediterranean country, So maybe they need some more
- 1:18:02Speaker 1: not Mediterranean coaches.
- 1:18:04Speaker 3: Food for food for thought. I don't know, right, what's
- 1:18:06Speaker 3: his name.
- 1:18:06Speaker 1: Run cut Run, I think, I think.
- 1:18:13Speaker 3: Listen. I don't know that's run But where he came from,
- 1:18:15Speaker 3: I don't know, but listen. Germany, Germany. Okay, there you go.
- 1:18:19Speaker 1: So no humor in this guy. Germany takes seriously serious
- 1:18:24Speaker 1: younas in first they have they have three wins. They
- 1:18:27Speaker 1: had six wins all total last season.
- 1:18:29Speaker 5: You don't half way half way at their wind And uh,
- 1:18:33Speaker 5: Luca looks really good there in the middle of that
- 1:18:34Speaker 5: big was six six six seven years.
- 1:18:38Speaker 3: Alone in the middle there. Yeah, I mean another hand
- 1:18:43Speaker 3: we scored.
- 1:18:44Speaker 5: You know.
- 1:18:46Speaker 3: Also, no, I listened. It's something again food for thought,
- 1:18:51Speaker 3: you know, joking aside about the coach and all that,
- 1:18:53Speaker 3: you know, it's it's something to look at. So again,
- 1:18:55Speaker 3: that's kind of why I wanted to bring it in there,
- 1:18:57Speaker 3: just because there's a big matchup this weekend and say, yeah,
- 1:19:00Speaker 3: you know, obviously a tough uh you know, to conclude
- 1:19:03Speaker 3: the week. Uh you know obviously midweek with with all
- 1:19:05Speaker 3: this Champions League, what bath of a talk. But I know,
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- 1:19:12Speaker 3: only did that be the juvenapi or the culture guys,
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