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The missing link between food, fuel, and performance · Cultural Wars | America Out Loud News

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Informed dissent, the intersection of health care and politics with Dr.
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Jeff Barkey, board certified primary care physician.
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And Dr.
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Mark McDonald.
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Board certified child adolescent and adult psychiatrist.
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All right.
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Welcome everybody.
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We're on another great episode of informed dissent.
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I am flying solo again.
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And the good news is I've got an incredible guest on, and that is Dr.
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Ann Deweese Allen.
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That name sounds kind of funny, and you may not know who she is, but after this conversation, you're gonna want to know her.
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And she's done some pretty incredible things.
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Dr.
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Ann Deweys, welcome to Informed Descent.
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Thank you so much.
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Um, I I decided I'd really love to talk to you as soon as I heard the name of your of your of your podcast.
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Okay, that sounds really interesting.
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I'm gonna do that.
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Awesome.
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Well, it's great to have you.
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First of all, just to start, um, I called you Dr.
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Anduise Allen.
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Tell us about your doctorate.
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What is your doctorate in?
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Well, I I tell you what, one one interesting thing.
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I decided to go back to school and learn some more.
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So I went to Harvard Medical School.
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I get into Harvard Medical School, right?
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Oh my god, help me please, right?
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To study AI nutritional neuroscience.
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But before that, um, I got a scholarship uh in environmental science and engineering, and I studied that for five years, and then I went to work for the environmental protection agency, where I was a combinatorial chemist for the EPA, studying polycorrelated biphenals and radium 222 and drinking water.
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Well, are you are you speaking English right now?
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Uh not actually, no, actually no.
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Um, I spent five and a half years in Japan, so I I speak a little bit of Japanese.
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We could we could do that.
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Yeah, let's go out sushi.
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That's perfect.
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Oh my god, the food though.
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Oh no, come you know what?
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They don't have any ice over there.
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You don't allow to have ice.
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Oh, interesting.
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So, yeah.
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So I spoke at the Tokyo Convention Center on a patent I'd received.
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I received the first patent on Larginine to be utilized as sickle cell uh and gene in the gene department, and I worked with NIH and Johns Hopkins for five and a half years, and the president of the National Medical Association on my research in sickle cell and what we could do to mitigate sickle cell.
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Uh then I worked for NASA and I did the project for NASA in the middle in the mitigation of side effects of microgravity in space flight, Project Jupiter and astronauts.
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Um Wow, I don't I don't current, I don't currently have any plans to go to space, but if I do, I know who I'm calling.
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Did you working with the various government agencies?
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Did your path ever cross with uh Dr.
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Anthony Fauci?
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No, but I know of him.
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I know of yeah, yeah.
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So it's been very fascinating.
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Well, you know, one of the things about microgravity is that we're trying to, you know, colonize the moon and to get Jupiter.
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But the problem is uh if you if you're in microgravity for even a short period of time, like the astronauts where they got stuck up there, and then you know Elon Musk had to go get them, which was nice of them, very kind thing to do.
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That the problem is that as soon as you get into microgravity, you start breaking down muscle mass, uh, and the heart is a muscle, as you know better than I do, uh what happens then.
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So we have a real problem with colonizing anything where there's microgravity.
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So they try to use you know heavy-duty equipment and and sports equipment and and and lifting weights.
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That doesn't work.
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You know why it doesn't work?
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Because you're still in microgravity.
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Yeah, so I guess you need to create a a little mini atmosphere where there is gravity similar to the Earth's gravity, if you're gonna live there for any extended period of time.
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But I got a better idea for you.
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I like your idea a lot.
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I got a better idea for you.
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So NASA said, okay, they they did a contest of 67,000 chemists across the world, and if you could come up with some solution that would have to do with with space flight, okay, great.
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So I submitted my document on the mitigation of side effects, blah, blah, blah.
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Uh, and it had to do with arginine.
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So the patent I got an alarginine for sickle cell when I lectured at the United Nations General Assembly on that, uh, which was loads of fun.
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Was that if you can get arginine to cross the blood brain barrier?
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It's an amino acid, right?
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Huh?
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Arginine is an amino acid.
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Yes, it is.
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But it's how do you how do you patent an amino acid?
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Okay, I'll tell you how.
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You can go look it up.
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It's very juicy, but here's the deal.
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Um, so I started the glycemic research institute 35 years.
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So I've been running the glycemic research institute and doing the largest amount of clinical studies in the United States.
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We're the only, in fact, glycemic research institute's the only institute that's that's recognized by the United States government um to be valid to make certain claims on obesity diabetes, same things like that.
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So when I got the patent on arginine, it was because I wanted to force that little one amino acid, one amino acid.
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If you just have a steak, right?
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That's great.
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If you got a steak, you're gonna have the whole protein chain.
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Well, guess what?
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Guess what, folks?
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Protein is not a fuel.
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Now, who who cares?
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The gut brain acts as cares.
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The gut brain acts as cares if you don't give it a brain fuel and a body fuel.
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So that's why I studied AI nutritional neuroscience, because I wanted to figure out like, wait a minute, you know what's wrong with the food chain?
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It's not the human beings that are wrong, it's the food and the beverage and the things now.
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So if you think about it, everything that goes in your mouth.
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Now, what we determined in clinical trials, which I've done thousands of with University of Florida professors of medicine, uh IRB board approved.
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Um, even published in the anyway.
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I don't want to bore you with JAMA, but uh the point is that it's not anybody's fault that they're getting fat and obese and diabetic, because what we're doing is we're putting things in our mouth that shouldn't go in our mouth.
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Our cleaners, sugar alcohols, anything that fools the brain, okay.
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And it's very easy to fool the brain because the brain's built, and especially in 300,000 years, the brain hasn't changed in evolution.
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So I I hired a professor of anthropology at the University of California and said Riverside, and I said, Okay, please come work with me because I need to understand evolution so that I can create products that that deal with the evolutionary problem.
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So that the issue is go back to Cromanion Man.
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They did not have artificial sweeteners, they did not have sugar alcohols, and they didn't trick the brain.
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So, for example, I'll give you a good example.
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So, for example, uh give you a good example.
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Right now, people should not be eating bananas.
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Right now, people should not be eating bananas.
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Children should not be eating bananas because bananas increases the progenitor fat cells.
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Children should not be eating bananas because bananas increases the progenitor fat cells.
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Obesity begins in the womb.
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Obesity begins in the womb.
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What the mother ate genetics, blah, blah, blah.
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What the mother ate, genetics, blah, blah, blah.
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But the point is that in a child in the first year after birth, okay, if you have bananas, even in that just that first year, you're going to create more progenitor fat cells.
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But the point is that in a child in the first year after birth, okay, if you have bananas, even in that just that first year, you're gonna create more progenitor fat cells.
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So that was fine in the jungle when they had no hierarchy foods.
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So that was fine in the jungle when they had no hierarchy foods now.
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Now we got McDonald's and we all this food that we can just clam in our mouths.
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So that you know, we can't use diets because they don't work, they go against evolution.
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You just drink diet coke.
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Just diet coke, that works, right?
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Yeah, well, I won't tell you who did the clinical trials on that, but uh okay, I had to do a four-hour podcast on Clear Channel about that very subject.
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Yeah.
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Subject was if you take a soda, I'm not gonna say who's soda, just a cola, okay?
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And you can go to glycemic research institute and see that four hour podcast that I did with the National Medical Association and Johns Hopkins and uh uh NIH, all the head of genetics because sickle cells about genetics, let's face it, epigenetics.
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Yes, um, and the we're the way I'm dealing with epigenetics is put those genes on a dimmer switch.
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We can't get rid of the genes, but we could down regulate them.
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So if you take the FTO obesity gene, for example, which is why Oprah has trouble losing weight.
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A lot of people have the FD obesity gene, particularly African Americans, it means that you got a gigantic butt, which is great.
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I'd love to have that.
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Oh, I'd love to have that, but I don't have that.
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Um, is that's where all the fuel goes.
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So the if you look at the problem of what's going on with why we're getting fatter and more obese, obesity is connected to type 2 diabetes.
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Type 2 diabetes is connected to Alzheimer's, Alzheimer's is connected to all kinds of cognitive decline because we're tricking the body, we're putting fuel in the mouth.
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Now, you mentioned before L arginine, and you have a patent for it.
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How do we get L arginine into the brain and how does it help us?
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I love that you said that.
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I love it so much.
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So here's what's the problem.
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In the whole it like so if you have a steak, okay, let's go back.
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Thanks you for putting me back on track.
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Okay, you're okay, or anything that has contains protein, it might be egg, cheese, whatever you want.
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It's the protein chain.
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The protein chain does not automatically do divide itself up into individual what's called free form amino acids.
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So a free form amino acid is an amassid and one amino acid that you take specifically out of the food chain and you just use that.
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So I thought, okay, well, how am I gonna do that?
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Because you know, I don't know that kind of trick.
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Well, it just so happens that the Japanese were building a giant fermenter uh in Tokyo, and what they were doing is they were isolating arginine, they were isolating arginine from all the other amino acids.
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Why?
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Because they were giving it to cows to make them have more muscle mass.
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So I'm like, okay, wait a minute.
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They're giving an amino acid isolated arginine to cows, so that that's how they came up with Kobe beef, because Kobe beef doesn't have a lot of fat.
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So they thought, okay, how can we make these cows have less fat and more muscle mass?
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Well, oh, guess what?
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Arginine increased the muscle mass on cows.
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So I thought, well, you know what?
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If as a mammal, okay, it's a mammal.
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If it's a mammal, it has to follow certain functionalities on this planet.
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So I thought, okay, I'm gonna contact Japan.
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So my my grandfather was a cultural attached to Japan, and I said, Hey, listen, can you um because I'm from DC, born and raised in DC, right?
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My dad worked in the White House.
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So I probably pull a few strings.
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I said, Can I have some of that arginine for cows?
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Yeah, so they sent me some of the arginine for cows to our laboratory in Hackensack, New Jersey.
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Lovely place to be.
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If you like all right, so then I thought, okay, what am I gonna do with this?
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So I said, if this works in a mammal, okay, humans are a mammal.
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What if I could get that arginine to cross the blood brain barrier?
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Okay, and here's how you do it.
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It's called Avogadro's number, 6.022 times 10 to the 23rd.
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It's called alcohol, which is predicting the outcome, and it's called quantum physics and quantum dynamics.
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So I have to figure out the molecular and the molar mass by using Avogadros number.
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These people are gonna hang up on you, I swear to God, right now.
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They're gonna go, that's it.
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She's talking about quantum figures.
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I'm hanging up the dam.
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Um, okay, she wants to tell us about diets, okay, bitch don't work.
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So, all right.
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So I said, if I can figure out the molecular and the molar mass, because you have to use the Daltons, the Daltons are okay, anything that helps cross cross the blood memory is called a Zwitter ion.
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Oh my god, you don't want to hear this shit.
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Anyway, so I figured it out.
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I figured it out how to make biomolecules that basically did whatever I told them to do by programming them to do it.
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Then I got it arginine to cross the blood brain barrier, and what's the point?
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The point is if we stimulate growth hormone and we stimulate testosterone, the male's favorite thing in the world.
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Look, I there's only two, there's only two channels.
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There's the male channel and the female channel, and we're a different species, got different species because men are based on growth hormone and testosterone, make babies.
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Where's the men's thing?
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Eat food, make babies, have sex, and we're over here in another lane that's completely different.
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So I said, All right, does it work in men and women the same way?
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So I got the arginine to cross the blood brain barrier and to turn back on the growth hormone switch in the brain.
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The human body starts decaying at age 23.
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That's when aging starts in every single human being, and that's why chroman man would die age 25 or 30, because get off the planet.
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We don't need you anymore.
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Get out.
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Okay.
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There's more food for somebody else.
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Get off the planet.
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Okay.
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So if we could turn on that key to have your body produce natural growth hormone.
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Now, I am not all about anything artificial.
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I'm not about putting testosterone patches on people.
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We know the problem with that, but not thought, okay, testosterone.
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As your testosterone goes down in the male, as it goes down, okay, your risk of prostate cancer goes up.
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So you don't see a 16-year-old with prostate cancer.
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You see somebody that's way older than that, okay.
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So what we know is if you have natural testosterone, it's going to help you prevent you from having prostate cancer.
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So I got to turn that back on.
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Yeah, let's give me some testosterone.
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I got to turn on the growth hormone switch, which is the hypothalmic pituitary axis.
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Which, which is the hypothalmic pituitary axis.
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And how can I do that?
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And how can I do that?
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The same way they did it with cows, except I did it for humans.
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The same way they did it with cows, except I did it for humans.
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So I said, okay, I gotta find some guinea pigs.
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So I said, okay, I gotta find some guinea pigs.
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I gotta find some guinea pigs who'll let me give them some arginine.
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I gotta find some guinea pigs who'll let me give them some arginine.
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Oh my god, where can I find the largest grazing dinosaurs on the earth?
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Oh my god, where can I find the largest grazing dinosaurs on the earth?
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Oh, that's called power lifters.
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Oh, that's called power lifters.
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Yeah, that's what I'm gonna do.
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Yeah, that's what I'm gonna do.
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I gotta give me some power lifters who'll be suckered into taking this arginine, right?
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I gotta give me some power lifters who'll be suckered into taking this arginine, right?
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And hope.
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In hopes of gaining more muzzle math.
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So I called the um I I called the every single uh organization I knew or could get a hold of that were powerlifters.
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So now I got a hold of the the biggest uh group of power lifters in the world, right?
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And they were getting ready to go, uh go globally, uh to you know, to lift weights.
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God, I don't even know what they do.
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All right, so I called him, I said, uh, aren't you guys getting ready to go to Russia?
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You're gonna be drug tested.
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I know what they were taking, some horse stuff.
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Okay, fine.
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They knew it, I knew it.
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Everybody knew it.
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Uh Arnold knew it.
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And in fact, Arnold Schwarzenegger invited me to come lecture with him on the only science that's ever invited to come lecture him.
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That's a whole nother story because he was promoting my arginine at the Arnold Schwarzenegger class thing.
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So I so I made the arginine, which tastes like dead fish in a pier.
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Oh my god, it's so bad.
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It's a powder, huh?
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It's a powder.
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Yes, it has to be powder.
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Here's here's something for your audience.
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Arginine won't work if you take it in a capsule.
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If you got a bottle of it and you got a capsule, throw it out.
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It doesn't work that way.
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The minimum amount of arginine that is effective for nitric oxide, okay.
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So if you'll remember, uh, the nitro the Nobel Prize for nitric oxide, Dr.
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Naro, okay, which I made his products, okay, for um the the production of growth of not growth hormone, but just test nitric oxide.
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Okay, so anyway, all right.
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So now here's these here are these group of gigantic power lifters.
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So I so they all came to Washington, DC, like 15 of them.
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Oh my god, do you know what we had to do?
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We had to go in all you can eat places, all you can eat, because they did, they did all you can eat, okay.
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And then the manager came up and said, Um, you know, Anduise, can you take this group out of here?
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Because they're they've eaten everything in the whole restaurant, and it says, you know, all you can eat.
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And I was like, okay.
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I said, I tell you what, if we take Dawn Reschel out into the parking lot and she can pick up a car, will you let them stay?
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He goes, Yeah, so we did.
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All right, so now I'm working with this group of males and females power lifters.
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Uh one guy was was lifting a thousand pounds, and it's it was amazing.
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I said, perfect.
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I said, Okay, I'm gonna have to drug test you and make you gotten off those horse steroids, okay?
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Because you're starting to, and all kind of weird stuff was going on because of those growth hormones that they were taking um illegally and steroids and blah blah blah.
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You don't want horse steroids, okay.
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That's not good.
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All right, so I I started and I said, Look, it tastes really bad.
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Sorry about that.
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I said, Look, just drink it, okay?
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And then I had to figure out so I was the first science to figure out what the what is the the dosage for arginine.
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I didn't have any clue.
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So I started out with three grams, nothing happened, four grams, nothing happened at five to six grams.
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We got nitric oxide, but at between 10 and 12 grams of arginine at a time, at one time with a blood brain barrier carrier made of biomolecules so that the Zwitter ion would cross the blood brain barrier.
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Okay, you it just won't cross the blood barrier.
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You gotta ease it into crossing, like, oh, you need to come over here.
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There's good stuff over here to get it to cross the blood brain barrier.
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Okay, now we were using up to 10 grams a day and 12 grams a day, which everybody told me would probably kill them, but no, and what happened was they started gaining muscle mass, reducing body fat.
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Now, one of the interesting things we did was I worked with Mr.
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Universe, Miss Galaxy.
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Um, I've worked with Bruce Springsteen.
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I designed Bruce Springsteen's products and he used them on stage.
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Um, and with the formula, you know, formula drivers.
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Uh I worked with them, and I also worked with the masters tournament and creating David Duval, a golf drink that would do the same thing.
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So the point is, I've tested this in hundreds, hundreds of athletes.
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Now, what happened with this group with the power lifters was they went to Russia, okay, and to and all in every country, uh competing in power lifting, and the subjects of mine that took the product were listed lifting a woman, a female was lifting and squatting 650 pounds, drug-free.
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Wow.
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Other guys were lifting over a thousand pounds drug-free because that's what arginine did.
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Arginine creates muscle mass on its own, and that's why I did the NASA project because they lose muscle mass.
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Got it.
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Uh, that's why they can't walk when they get back.
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They got all crazy.
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Um, so you can create muscle mass just by stimulating the natural growth hormone, pituitary gland axis, uh, and as well as testosterone, but it's natural testosterone.
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I don't like the testosterone patches.
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I don't like anything that evolution did not produce.
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So, Dr.
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Andrew Wees, we're nature.
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We started this conversation, and you were describing uh how diets don't work and all the efforts to lose weight haven't been helpful.
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People are putting poison in their body, that is in part why they're not able to lose weight.
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Yeah, and you created this patented product called L-arginine that uh crosses the blood brain barrier, increases nitric oxide, yeah, and naturally increases growth hormone and testosterone.
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Yes, and the end result is more muscle, less fat, and don't ultimately weight loss.
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Arginine on its own, right?
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In burning muscle fat.
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Okay, so you know, I did all the research for Hershey Foods for the candies.
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We won't even talk about that, but there's a great, a great clinical trial.
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And what we're trying to find out is what's making us fat in chocolate or something else.
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What is making humans fat?
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Okay.
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So I've been studying that for 35 darn years.
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Okay.
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So with with the bodybuilders, here's what we saw.
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When I gave it to um one of my athletes was a guy who said, I want to be Mr.
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Mr.
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Universe.
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Okay, okay, great.
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So he said, Well, I'm gonna take that arginine stuff because I saw that some friends of mine that are power lifters, um, are are taking the product.
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And I said, Okay, so when I gave him the arginine, because I figured out the dosage now and how to make it and how to make the product manufacture the product.
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So I said, Okay, I gotta make this product for everybody.
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And I was just giving it away to the athlete tree, just giving it to say, okay, so what I found out, this is crazy.
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So what I found out, this is crazy.
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You ready for this?
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You ready for this?
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Yep.
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Yeah, it turns out that I can't use the same arginine or the same um or or or say even a performance drink, okay?
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It turns out that I can't use the same arginine or the same um or or say even a performance drink, okay?
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As you know, one of the performance drinks that I made, it's on every grocery store, is now worth 20 billion dollars.
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As you know, one of the performance drinks that I made, it's on every grocery store is now worth 20 billion dollars.
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And that was a patent line.
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And that was patent line.
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Can I tell everybody the name?
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Can I tell everybody the name?
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No.
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No, no, okay.
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No.
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Okay, I won't.
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I won't.
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But I'll be killed in my sleep.
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But I'll be killed in my sleep.
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Do you want to they'll blow up my car?
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Do you want to they'll blow up my car?
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Oh, we love them.
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Oh, we love them.
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They're so good.
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Yes, we love them.
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Anyway.
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So, by the way, of the arginine, within the first few years, we generated over a billion dollars in sales globally of arginine.
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But the point is that I got shocking news.
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It's like, wait a minute.
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The formula that I made for the power lifters doesn't work in bodybuilders.
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It doesn't work in golfers.
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It doesn't work in football players.
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It doesn't work, it doesn't work for any other group.
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And like, oh my God, what's wrong?
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They're all males.
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They may weigh the same thing.
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So you could look like, you know, you could be a stick, um, a stick man, and you know, make maybe weigh 115 pounds.
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You can still make babies.
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It doesn't matter what you weigh, but for women, it does matter what you ask.
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What why doesn't it?
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Why doesn't it work in other athletes and only in power lifters?
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This is crazy.
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All right.
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So imagine.
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So I started making charts to go, I gotta figure this out.
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I have to figure this out.
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So what I found out was in Mr.
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Universe, right?
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I was like, oh my god, this is not.
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I've got to make a different formula for him.
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And I'll tell you what.
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You ready for this?
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Yeah.
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Body builders and power lifters, right?
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They're not burning any muscle glycogen, are they?
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Oh.
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They're not running.
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I used to be a marathon runner with Frank Shorter.
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He won the gold medal, and I didn't even come close to that.
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Okay.
22:54
I remember him.
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Yeah.
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Oh my God.
22:56
Well, he was a hoot, University of Florida.
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Oh my god, greatest guy ever.
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And we used to say, why can't we catch him?
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He looked like a wet rat.
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Why can't we catch this guy?
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Unbelievable.
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So if you take a power lifter and you try to make him a long distance runner, it's not gonna work.
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Right.
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Which he needs a different kind of fuel.
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He needs a different kind of brain and body fuel.
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That's called the gut brain axis.
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So then I said, I gotta figure out how to change the whole callic response.
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Because if you change a cephalic response of anything coming into the mouth, then you change the entire gut brain axis.
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So I had to rewire the gut brain axis.
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Did it work?
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Yes.
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Is it working now?
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Yes.
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Can we could totally control the gut brain axis?
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Yes, we can by what you put in your mouth.
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Whether you spit it out or not.
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So, like I said, with the Coke, right?
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We put some, we put soda on on human tongues, right?
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And they switched it around in their mouth, our human subject, and spit it out.
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Like I said, you can go read about this trial at glycemic.com.
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Uh and just look at the podcast.
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Okay.
24:01
Four hour podcast.
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And what happened was the craziest thing happened.
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Um, is that the body doesn't act like we thought it does.
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It's way much more smart and more complicated.
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So if you switch it around in your mouth and you spit it out, you gained weight by up to 20% of what's called increasing your adipose tissue fat cells, uh, downregulating your your brown fat.
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Okay.
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So what we saw was wait a minute, why is that?
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It's because it stimulates insulin.
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If you put something in your mouth that's over 1.5 times sweeter than the natural sugars on the planet, like monk fruit, stevia, uh, sugar, honey.
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If you go above that hierarchy, then you've screwed up the entire gut brain axis because the brain and the body don't know that what that means.
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It doesn't understand.
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It hasn't changed in 300,000 years, and it's not ready to change.
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So that what happened was the artificial sweeteners were stimulating the brain to produce insulin, enough enough insulin to cause diabetes if you kept doing it.
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But there was no fuel.
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There's no fuel.
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Wow.
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I was the first scientist to bring monk fruit into the United States from China.
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I'm not Dr.
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Ann Duis Allen.
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We're gonna take a really quick break, and I want to continue on this conversation.
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I know listeners now are thinking, where do I get a hold of this L-arginine stuff?
25:30
Uh, and how can it help me?
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And then I also want to take a step back because you've got an incredible compelling personal story that I'd like our audience to learn about uh in 1983.
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Uh, and I want to hear more about that.
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All right, welcome back.
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We're talking with uh Dr.
28:44
Anduese Allen.
28:45
By the way, that's kind of a funny name.
28:47
Tell me about your name.
28:48
An D E weese W E E Allen.
28:53
Face little D E, Capital W E E S.
28:56
Last name is Allen.
28:58
Where's that name from?
28:59
Founded.
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And they um they they took over an island in Charleston.
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Remember this in 1690, okay?
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Um and they so they called it Dewey's Island.
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Now, that was in 1690.
29:13
So fast forward, um, they fought in the revolutionary war and the civil war, and that didn't go so well for them.
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Even now, do you know what they call it?
29:21
It's not the civil war, it's the wall between the streets.
29:24
That's my grandmother.
29:25
Okay, whatever.
29:26
So that's where I got fucked with that now.
29:28
Gotcha.
29:29
Gotcha.
29:30
So um, complete your story.
29:32
We uh we found out that L arginine works with some of the power lifters, but not other athletes.
29:38
And uh you need him to basically readjust the gut brain access and uh and found out that you put sweet stuff in the mouth even for a second and it stimulates insulin production without the fuel, and we can actually create diabetes without somebody eating anything.
29:55
Exactly right.
29:57
That is exact, and it's crazy when you really think about it, right?
30:00
So I thought, okay, since it didn't work in the bodybuilder, what's missing?
30:04
What's different?
30:05
You know what was with it and missing and different?
30:08
A different kind of fuel, a different kind of fuel.
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So it turns out there's all different kind of fuel.
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Protein is not a fuel.
30:16
So if you take arginine and you put it back, say in a bowl of of egg salad, then that arginine is going to go back to being in the protein chain.
30:26
It won't cross the blood brain barrier, it won't do anything other than give you protein.
30:30
But protein is not a fuel.
30:32
So, if you're for example, if women have a protein drink before they exercise, that's totally the wrong thing to do.
30:39
Okay, it's gonna keep them from burning fat.
30:42
But that doesn't happen in males.
30:43
It doesn't happen.
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So if we have an understanding of how our machine works, how does this machine work?
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That's the only way we're gonna survive.
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Because now we're changing our genetic structure.
30:54
We're changing our genes.
30:56
And what is sickle cell?
30:57
It's epigenetics.
30:58
Putting your genes on a dimmer switch.
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So I can take the FT obesity gene and shut it off.
31:05
Now, you know what makes you fat?
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When something comes in your mouth, it either triggers the fat gene, okay, and the fat mechanism, which is called lipoprotein liphase, LPL.
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If you what if you could turn off that key?
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What if you could put food and beverages in people's mouths and you could turn off the key to the fat cell?
31:24
What if you could turn it off?
31:25
Yeah, that's fantastic.
31:27
How do people do that?
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Okay, it's called key code fuel, right?
31:31
And uh and seconds to performance, and I I have I have 52 registered trademarks, by the way, to make sure that I cover it.
31:38
Um, but anyway, the the point is now I see this bodybuilder, and I realize what's the difference?
31:45
It's the arginine, it's the same dose.
31:47
It's because he was using a different kind of fuel.
31:50
And I went, oh my god.
31:51
So I started charting all the athletes.
31:54
I was working with lots of athletes on everything football players, baseball, Chicago Cubs, you name them.
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I was looking for any kind of guinea things, okay?
32:02
And I said, All right, okay, so look, this is what I gotta do.
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It's a matter of fuel.
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It's the fuel coming into your mouth.
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Do you okay?
32:10
So I I said, okay, all the way, they take a rope, right?
32:14
Go all the way to the left, and that's where golfers are.
32:17
Now, go all the way to the right side of the rope.
32:20
Okay, let's say the rope is 10 feet long, and guess what you're gonna find?
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The animals on this planet that use the most fuel for brain.
32:29
Are you ready for this?
32:31
Yeah.
32:31
Chest masters.
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Or what?
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They're not moving out of that chair, are they?
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Chesters.
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They're burning brain fuel.
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Just like gamers.
32:42
So I said, oh my god, that means every athlete needs a different kind of fuel.
32:48
So then I started had to have to start.
32:50
Thank God I'm a combinatorial chemist.
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I started making biomolecules, but what did I make them out of?
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They all have to be organic and natural, or the brain won't accept them.
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Because the brain knows anything artificial.
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So I had my friend Pride of China bring me back something called monk root.
33:08
In the 90s, in the 1990s, I was getting a monk root from China.
33:13
So we bring it back, we take it to the lab, and my my lab came and say, all right, Andrew, what are you gonna do with that stuff?
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I go, I have no idea.
33:20
I have no idea what it does.
33:22
But I want to use it as a sweetener, okay?
33:25
And so I I've done the largest study on monk roots than anybody in the world.
33:30
Glychemic Research Institute, go there, you can read all about it, right?
33:34
Massive trials for 30 years on monk fruit and stivia.
33:38
Okay.
33:38
I know exactly how they work, I know what they do.
33:41
Stivia doesn't work.
33:42
A lot of a lot of people are now using monk fruit as sweeteners along with along with Stivia.
33:48
And you know, of course, they'll claim that it's natural and better for you than sugar.
33:52
But here's the problem.
33:53
Here's your problem, okay?
33:55
The problem is if I just took the monk fruit, right?
33:58
And let's remember that stevia takes a very bad pathway.
34:01
It takes a glucose pathway.
34:03
Now, you know, you know, we understand now that glucose could cause metabolic dysfunction.
34:08
Dietary post can call metadens, okay.
34:10
No more, get it out of the products.
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And I've noticed the Gatorade, I have the same patent attorney as they did.
34:16
They got it out of there.
34:17
Okay.
34:17
So look, if you just take a sweetener, right?
34:20
Oh, it's natural.
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It's got monk fruit and stevia in it.
34:24
Where's the damn fuel?
34:26
Where's the fuel?
34:27
Your body needs, your brain needs fuel.
34:30
And your body needs fuel.
34:32
Now, the brain is a greedy little pig, okay?
34:35
And the brain will take the fuel first and say, oh, what's coming in the door?
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There's monk freed and stevia, there's no damn fuel.
34:42
The body can't run.
34:44
The brain can't won.
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So, what do you think happens when you deprive the brain of fuel?
34:49
You think cognitive decline could be the result?
34:52
Yes.
34:52
If the brain doesn't have any fuel, you get cognitive decline.
34:57
And that eventually turns into Alzheimer's.
34:59
Now, Alzheimer's is also genetic, so it's getting very complicated.
35:00
Alzheimer's is also genetic, so it's getting very complicated.
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So I thought, oh my God, I have to make a different drink, okay, that's not just arginine.
35:03
So I thought, oh my God, I have to make a different drink, okay, that's not just arginine, it has different fuels in it for different athletes.
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It has different fuels in it for different athletes.
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So if we have a chess master all the way on the right, and he's not really moving, okay?
35:14
So if we have a chess master all the way on the right, and he's not really moving, okay?
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He's burning up fuel in his brain from a highly accelerated rate.
35:19
He's burning up fuel in his brain from a highly accelerated rate.
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Now, when the brain runs out of fuel, you know what it does?
35:24
Now, when the brain runs out of fuel, you know what it does?
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It's gonna start looking for fuel elsewhere.
35:27
It's going to start looking for fuel elsewhere, like in your muscles, in your heart and other places.
35:29
Like
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So this is called fuel partitioning.
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Fuel partitioning is when you put something in your mouth and it doesn't have a direction.
35:39
It doesn't know where to go and it doesn't have you how to be utilized.
35:41
But if you make natural organic biomolecules, which I did using monk fruit, but then I saw, wait, there's no fuel.
35:49
So then I had to take, I went out and took all kinds of fruits, like pomegranate fruits and different fruits, and made sure they were low blood seminars.
35:58
Remember, I've done 35 years in clinical trials.
36:00
I have the largest database in the world of every sugar on the planet and every artificial sweetener and every single glycoside.
36:07
So I know by the way, if I can interrupt you, Dr.
36:10
Anduese Allen created the glycemic index that we're all familiar with that measures the effect on your blood sugar with uh very various creeds that we eat.
36:20
Yeah, and here's the shocker.
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After 35 years of doing this my whole life, and luckily getting major patents on it, um, okay, I I realize that's not gonna work because guess why?
36:33
You go to the glycemic research and you get a number.
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Oh, it's a 55 on the glycemic index, and here's your glycemic glows.
36:40
So what?
36:41
What does that mean to human beings?
36:43
What does that mean?
36:44
So for all the, you know, I work with the largest food companies in the world, Procter and Gamble.
36:49
And we say, okay, here's the glycemic index of this, and okay, so what?
36:53
So now you know what I'm moving to?
36:55
Glycemic intelligence and metabolic thermodynamics.
37:00
Because what good is the glycemic index if we don't know how to utilize it?
37:05
How does that help the gut brain axis, right?
37:07
So now I have to change everything I'm doing in saying, forget just knowing the number.
37:12
You need to know glycemic intelligence and metabolic thermodynamics.
37:16
In other words, you need to know what that food is doing.
37:19
You need to know what it's doing to your brain and to your body.
37:21
How's it affecting your gut brain access?
37:23
Is it is it storing in your fat cells?
37:25
If you put something in your mouth and it turns back ket code called lipoprotein lipase, it's going into your fat cells, babies.
37:32
It's going in there.
37:33
So if a woman today eats a banana, so I when I lecture to uh to mothers, I say, please don't give your children any bananas for the love of God.
37:41
I'll tell you what you do.
37:42
Go over to to uh go over to Walmart and get the frozen fruit, right?
37:47
And and and bring the frozen fruit back, put it in a blender with some ice, and then put some protein in it.
37:54
You don't need to go buy something.
37:56
So now I'm I'm saying, oh my God.
37:58
So, all right, so now I was supposed to make a baseball drink, but now I'm like, okay, they're different than football players.
38:05
So I've had to create different drinks for different fuel uses.
38:10
So in the end, we got the golfers.
38:11
Oh my god, they ride around in a golf court.
38:14
And if you give them fuel that they're not using, it goes in their fat cells.
38:19
Think of so they're out there drinking drinks that don't have any fuel in them, right?
38:24
Or they're they're they're drinking drinks to do, and but they're not burning the fat because they're not really moving.
38:30
So that's what I'm saying.
38:32
So, Dr.
38:32
Andrew Wees, there's a whole audience of thousands of people that are listening to this from chess players to golfers to weekend athletes, the people that work out most days of the week.
38:45
How should how do they know what fuel that they should be?
38:49
I'm so glad you asked me.
38:50
And here's the here's the issue.
38:52
What's the first letters of diet?
38:54
It's dye, okay.
38:56
Humans are not going to work with diet.
38:59
It doesn't work.
39:00
You're telling, you know what?
39:01
Humans survive by what?
39:03
By eating something, by eating something.
39:06
So, you know, with m uh McDonald's was brilliant.
39:10
They're brilliant.
39:11
Men crave protein to make testosterone, to make babies, to make muscles.
39:16
But we women, we want some potato chips into chocolate.
39:20
Why?
39:21
Because women, once a month, are want to start their husband with a fork and take a fork and stick it in his ass.
39:27
They want to kill you at certain points in the month.
39:30
And I would say, okay, I will defend you in court for that.
39:33
I will defend you in court.
39:34
It's not your fault.
39:36
Stick it with stick a fork in his ass and I will defend you in court.
39:39
Okay.
39:39
Fine.
39:40
Because women, when they're either going through menopause or every month, we're going to go whacked out, right?
39:45
And you know we're whacked out because you, but you can't say we're whacked out, but yeah, we're whacked out because they need serotonin.
39:51
I'm glad you said it, not me.
39:54
Well that yeah, I know you're one of a kind, okay.
39:57
You're evolved, you're evolved.
39:59
But by the way, have you have you written a book on this that describes the different fuels and needs that different athletes and so forth have?
40:08
Listen, I tried that, right?
40:09
I had the number one selling book at Amazon for about five years on the glycemic index.
40:14
And then I realized that's not gonna work.
40:17
Because when science changes, I change.
40:21
I'm not just gonna say, okay, I'm good for now.
40:23
Oh, this, I know this, and I'm not gonna learn anything else.
40:26
It's constantly changing, okay?
40:28
So I mean, talk about AI and nutritional neuroscience.
40:31
That is some new stuff right there, okay?
40:33
But what it means is I don't do anything artificial with the AI.
40:37
I use AI to figure out my algorithms and the molecular molar mass of the biomolecules that I make and left, which we all made with natural and organic products and fruit.
40:47
All of my products are grass-aproved by the Food and Drug Administration, okay?
40:52
Every one of my biomolecules is safe, organic, and natural.
40:57
So I'm I'm fixing the food chain by giving you back the foods that we ate when we first got on this planet.
41:03
Um, because if we try to go well, look what's happening.
41:06
Okay, so um, I mean, that's why I don't write books or whatever.
41:10
I say, I'll do podcasts, okay?
41:12
I do I do a lot of podcasts, right?
41:14
I'll do podcasts to tell people like what the hell's going on with your body and how do you control it?
41:19
How do you control your body?
41:21
You control it by what you decide to put in your mouth.
41:24
So men go to McDonald's to get the testosterone.
41:28
That's me.
41:28
Me, he didn't man, we get a burger.
41:31
But women, the majority of women, okay.
41:34
I did all the research for for Burger King, okay?
41:36
And I designed a product for them from children that was low glycemic.
41:40
Uh which worked out very well.
41:43
So the point is that women, if they go through McDonald's, right?
41:47
Guess what they want?
41:48
French fries and a milkshake.
41:50
Because the milkshake will serotonin and the French wash will make them happy, although they go in the fat cells.
41:55
So I'm saying we don't change people, change the food, change the why are we trying to change people?
42:00
Change the pictures.
42:01
Why are we trying to change people?
42:02
That's crazy.
42:02
That's crazy.
42:04
So what role now does your L-arginine patented product play in people that are trying to get healthy?
42:04
So what role now does your L arginine patented product play in people that are trying to get healthy?
42:11
Okay, that's just one.
42:11
Okay, that's just one.
42:13
That's just one of the 200 products that I've designed.
42:13
That's just one of the 200 products that I've designed.
42:17
Of all I have patents, okay, is that I'm trying to create natural foods, natural organic foods, right?
42:17
Of all I have patents, okay, is that I'm trying to create natural foods, natural organic foods, right?
42:25
And and what we did, we did 100 trials in children.
42:25
And and what we did, we didn't trials in children and our biomole.
42:28
And our biomolecules are safe in children and children with diabetes.
42:34
So now I'm making the first chocolate candy for children that is safe for children, organic and natural, and will not go in their fat cells and will not create pre-cogenitor fat cells.
42:46
That's being manufactured right now.
42:47
I've done 10 years.
42:49
Huh?
42:50
Where do we get some of that?
42:51
I'm gonna send it to I I've spent ten years on this chemistry.
42:55
And there are a lot of big companies.
42:57
I won't say they're saying, but I'm not doing that.
42:59
I'm gonna make sure everybody gets chocolate at a reasonable price.
43:03
I'm not gonna have it.
43:04
Um we're not gonna do it.
43:05
I don't care about money anymore.
43:06
But you created a lot of these products.
43:08
Where do people find out about your products and where they can purchase them to consume them?
43:13
Um, okay, well, you know, I don't I'm not trying to sell anything and I never have.
43:17
You know what I sell?
43:18
Science.
43:18
I sell science.
43:20
Uh science never lie and people do.
43:22
So um now we just opened up a new corporation that we've been manufacturing all my products.
43:28
Whether it's and I'll tell you what, you're gonna love.
43:30
I made a chocolate budge drink for women, and now I've done ten years of clinical trials on this in women, okay?
43:37
I made a so to keep them from stabbing you in the ass with a fork, right?
43:41
So I mean chocolate fudge drink.
43:43
Hey, you remember Yu-Ho chocolate drink, how good that was?
43:46
Yes.
43:47
I made it taste like a youhoo chocolate drink, right?
43:50
But it's all natural, it's organic, it's grass-proof and NSF approved.
43:54
You know, I already know that.
43:55
Come on, where do we get it?
43:56
I need to I need to prevent my ass from being stabbed.
43:59
Where do I get that stuff?
44:01
I have to tell you that on the on the next round, but I'll tell you if I get to come on your lovely show.
44:06
Uh so all these all these companies have come to me, but they want to charge outrageous amounts of money.
44:12
Okay, like the one company I licensed arginine to, they sold a billion dollars of my argyne.
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I'm like, what how'd you do that?
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How'd you do that?
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Well, we charge the arm and leg, but I said, No, I don't like that.
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I don't like that.
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I'm not doing that, I'm not doing that.
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It has to be reasonably price.
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So I keep getting these companies that, you know, that just want to suck people dry.
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I'm not doing it.
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I won't do it.
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All of a sudden, just in the past year, I found the most beautiful people, incredible lovely people.
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They're normal, they're happy, they they like to have fun.
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They were recently in my house for like a week and we had a blast because my dog did chase them around the whole time.
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But anyway, um, so they're going to come out with every product that I had.
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And I said, I'm not doing it unless it's at a reasonable price.
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That's right.
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So anyway, I took the monk fruit, right?
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And I took, I then I put it into my product.
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Then I took fruit, natural organic fruit from the earth, and I made a sweetener that won't go in your vat cells.
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But yet it's it's it's sweet enough to sweeten anything on the face of the earth.
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So why are we using sugars and artificial sweeteners and crazy stuff to put in our body when it's screwing up our entire gut brain access?
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So you know, if uh and it's called metabolic thermodynamics, right?
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It means putting the body back in homeostasis like it should be.
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We need to go back to how it should be, but by the way, where do where do people learn more about you if they want to follow the work you do ultimately buy your products?
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What's the best way to learn about what you're doing and follow the work that you're involved in?
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We're building a website and it's uh global nutritionintelligence.com.
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We're just putting up that website, and I said, it's gonna be all science.
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You're not gonna uh advertise anything or try to sell anybody anything.
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I want all science so these people can understand how but here's the thing.
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We can't train the whole population of the earth on how what to eat and not to eat.
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We need to create foods and drinks that will satiate them, like chocolate and chocolate budge drinks and things like that, so they can satiate their their desire for higher archy food, but yet it's not going to make them fat or diabetic.
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That's my whole goal to fix the human race so we don't we start messing up our genetics.
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Because remember, the kids under us are going to get the genes that we're changing right now by using artificial ingredients.
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It's changing our genetic makeup, and I can't have that.
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Um, Dr.
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Andrewis Allen, I want to change uh change direction a little bit uh because I want my audience to learn a little bit about your story of what happened in 1983 when you woke up one morning unable to swallow.
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Would you mind sharing that story and how you overcame a pretty significant health problem in your life?
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Yeah, and I think that's that's why I do what I do today.
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I I had to make a a deal with God to let me live, you know.
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You better not break that kind of a you know, can't break that kind of a bond.
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But anyway, they can also go to glycemic.com, which is the glycemic research institution, and just click on uh click on um any of those buttons, and you can see my bio, see my cancer stories, see the whole thing.
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Okay, so when I was very young, I was marathon running, and I was getting ready to go to the Olympics and marathon running with Frank Shorter.
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And uh I was also two weeks away from getting married to the love of my life, absolutely.
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We were in DC.
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And uh I had a wedding breast sitting that day.
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I found the the coolest guy on the face of the earth ever.
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Um ladies, you know what I'm talking about.
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Oh my gosh.
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Um and so all of a sudden, and I had run two miles that day, and all of a sudden I couldn't swallow anything.
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I couldn't even swallow water.
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And I thought, hey, wait a minute.
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I'm a vegetarian, I don't drink alcohol, I don't exercise.
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Um, I might have a glass of wine one, but I'm really healthy.
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Um I I will lift weights, I do Tai Chi.
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I mean, I was really healthy.
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I said, Well, there's nothing wrong with me, because I'm healthy, obviously, and um, but I couldn't, so by the end of the day, my fiance said, You still can't swallow anything?
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I said, No.
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And he said, I said, You're going to the hospital.
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I said, No, I'm not, you can't make me.
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I'm not going to hospital.
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I'm not going.
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And he goes, I know how to get you to the hospital.
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Yeah, he pulled a dirty one.
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He called my mother and mayor come over.
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Okay.
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And so she made me, they made me go to the hospital.
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And I said, Look, let me out of here.
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I got things to do, and you know, I got a wedding to prepare for, and the doctor said, Okay, look, I just want to do some x-rays.
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And I said, There's nothing wrong with me.
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I was just determined to get out of there.
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And so, you know, they did some cat skins, and my and my mother was there, and then she called all my sisters and brothers, and they came to the hospital, and then the Jeff was sitting there, my fiance, oh my God.
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And then the Jeff was sitting there, my fiance, oh my God.
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And so the doctor came in there and said, he said, uh, listen, Antoise, I know you're young and healthy, and we've got a problem.
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And so the doctor came in there and said, he said, uh, listen, Anduise, I know you're young and healthy, and we've got a problem.
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I thought, what do you mean?
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I thought, what do you mean?
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He said, You have stage four terminals, someone's gonna stop ageal cancer.
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He said, you have stage four terminals, someone's gonna stop a geal cancer.
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And I'm like, I said, What are you talking about?
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And I said, I said, what are you talking about?
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I don't have any cancer.
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I don't have any cancer.
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He says, You have stage four stomach and estophageal cancer.
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He says, You have stage four stomach and estophageal cancer.
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I said, What's the survival rate for that?
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I said, What's the survival rate for that?
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He goes, less than two percent.
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He goes, less than two percent.
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I said, No, I said this can't.
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I said, No, I said, This can't be.
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It can't be.
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It can't be.
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So I I was just crying.
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And I said, You tell my husband, my fiance, my future husband to go away.
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I don't ever want to see him again.
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So they went out there and told my family, and my family went for sure, and Jeff wouldn't leave.
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And they said, We have to do surgery on you immediately.
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And I said, No, nobody's cutting me open.
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No, no, no.
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I have to get married.
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I said, uh I won't do it.
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And he goes, Look, we have to try.
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And I said, Well, why are you gonna try?
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He said, Because you're so young and healthy, we think your heart can survive nine and a half hours of surgery.
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And I go, What do you mean, nine and a half hours?
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Well, we're sorry, but we have to cut out your ribcage.
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Uh, we have to move your stomach, we have to remove your distal osophagus.
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Uh, and I went, I said, I don't believe it.
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I don't believe it.
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This can't be happening to me.
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It just can't.
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It can't be happening to me.
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And he said, Look, you think about it, we're gonna go talk to your family and talk to Jeff, and maybe they can talk you into it.
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And I thought, oh my god, my life's over.
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I'm gonna be a horrible looking human being.
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Oh my god, you can't do this to me.
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You can't cut me.
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And I said, Well, actually, we have to cut you in half, uh, all the way around the circumference of your body.
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And I was like, Oh my god, you can't do this to me.
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You just can't.
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So my mother was crying, my my sisters and brothers are crying.
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I wouldn't let Jeff in.
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And they said, Please, please, please go through the surgery, please.
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And I said, Okay, but uh I don't want to.
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All right, so they put me to sleep, and I just remember waking up and I didn't know where I was.
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I just knew that somebody had cut my nose, a whole hole end of my nose and soda tube in it.
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And I looked at my body, it had huge and huge huge pieces of metal holding my stomach together, and there were three tubes sewed into my side, and I thought, oh my god, oh my god, just it's over.
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It's over.
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So the doctor came in and he goes, Look, I'm really sorry.
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He said, you know, we did everything we could.
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And I said, You took my riplane out.
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Give it back.
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Well, of course I was full of morphine.
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And we had to take it out.
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And I said, Don't let anybody, don't let my don't let my fiance see me like this.
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Please don't let him let me see me like this, please.
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And so he said, Okay, we will we won't let him in.
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And I said, What do I do now?
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What happens now?
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And he goes, Well, you can't have it in a sip of water for 32 days.
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I went, what do you mean?
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He said, You probably won't eat for a year or a year and a half if you do survive.
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And they said, No one's ever survived this surgery.
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And and I went, Oh my god, oh my God.
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I said, I can't this is not true.
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This is not happening to me.
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I'm a pretty young girl.
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Don't you see that?
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I want to get married.
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What are you doing to me?
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I just went, berserk.
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And so they were giving me morphine shots in my legs every two hours, 24 hours a day.
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And I was screaming in pain.
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Uh, because the pain from taking out my rib cage, the pain from all of these things holding me together, these metal clasps, and I was in agony every second.
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And if I move, then my then the tube came out of my nose, and they had to sew it back into my nose.
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So Jeff was Jeff was sitting on the outside my room, and the nurses came in and said, He loves you, he wants to come in, he wants to see you, and I said, No, I will never see him again.
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I don't want him to see this horrible Frankenstein monster that I've turned into.
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No, I won't let him in.
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Let my sisters in, but not him.
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He sat outside of the of that room for 32 days.
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And that's incredible.
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We've got just a couple minutes left, but please continue.
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And obviously, it's been 40 plus years since this diagnosis.
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Yes.
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And uh, and you're still around kicking, making a huge difference.
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But I'll tell you why.
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Okay.
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At that time when they said nobody's ever survived this, okay.
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So then my father came in and he goes, I know your idol is Linus Paulin.
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Three Nobel Prize.
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Everybody knows who's Linus Pauling is.
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And he was my idol in school.
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I said, he called Linus Paulin, and Linus Pauline called me back at the Lombardi Cancer Center, and I put the doctor on the phone and said, I want her to have arginine and vitamin C.
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Oh, and that's where it started.
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Yes.
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And now I'm the only long-term survivor of that.
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I married the guy, I'm healthy, I'm happy, and I'm so glad to be alive.
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Wow, what an i what an incredible story.
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And by the way, if you go to her website, glycemic research institute, there is a long uh description of this entire journey.
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What role did faith play in your recovery and your life now?
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Oh, I'm really glad you asked me for that, because you know, we're we're we're French Huguenots, okay?
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And came over on a boat in 1690.
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Um, and so we didn't, you know, we talked about God, and I've got, but I I'll tell you what, I got so desperate in that in that room in the hospital, after I've been in there for 32 days.
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Um, and they said, We gotta pull some of these tubes out, and we can't put you to sleep.
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And so, oh, and they said, and I'm like, oh God, is there any more trauma that you can do to me?
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I looked, and they came in my room and took all the the mirrors out of the room.
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Um, I thought, oh my God, and I hadn't seen Jeff.
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So I'm sitting there and I said, Okay, God, you know what, I don't have any other choice.
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God, if you will just let me live.
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And um, PS, if I can still be pretty and have nice hair and not look like a but I can tell him I said that would be really good also, but you know, just saying.
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And then all of a sudden, this bird flew over to the window, and we were like 14 stories up, right?
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In DC.
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And this bird looked at me and he was just looking at me.
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And then the bird kind of morphed into uh like it was flying around the room, and I thought, oh, I'm so full of I'm so I'm full of medication, I don't know, but it wasn't.
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And and the bird said to me, You're not going to die.
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And I said, Oh, I'll make you a bet.
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I will I will become the greatest chemist on the face of the earth.
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I will figure out things to help people.
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I will figure out things to make people live.
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I swear to God, if you just let me live, I will spend the rest of my life helping manhood.
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And and that was then the bird flew away.
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Wow and on the city.
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What a wonder what a wonderful story and a testament to your faith.
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And I'd love to keep talking, but we are actually out of time.
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So um learn more about Dr.
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So um learn more about Dr.
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Anne Joe Allen at glycemic research institute, and we will of course have her back on, especially once her delicious life-changing products uh come out of the market.
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Anne Deweys Allen at Lysemic Research Institute, and we will of course have her back on, especially once her delicious, life-changing products uh come out on the market.
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But um, Dr.
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But um, Dr.
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Anne De Reese, thank you so much for joining us on Informed Descent.
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Anne Deweys, thank you so much for joining us on Informed Descent.
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Well, thank you for having me.
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Well, thank you for having me, and I I I I'm so glad to have met you.
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And I I I'm so glad we've met you.
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Absolutely absolutely.
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Absolutely absolutely.
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We will have to do this again soon.
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We will have to do this again soon.
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You've been listening to Informed Descent with Dr.
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Jeff Barkey, Board Certified Primary Care Physician, and Dr.
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Mark McDonald, Board Certified Child, Adolescent, and Adult Psychiatrist.
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