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Jags Drive Time: Wednesday, November 7 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: Jeffu Wars did Jaguar? Jack Warris did Jaguars Drive Time?
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  Speaker 1: Ryan Sex text John Jay, Actually, Jaguars Drive Time starts
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  Speaker 1: right now. Good morning, Happy Wednesday to you. If you
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  Speaker 1: watch Jack's Drive Time yesterday, you learned that people are
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  Speaker 1: generally as happy as they make up their minds to be,
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  Speaker 1: says Abraham Lincoln. Hopefully this morning, as you're looking out
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  Speaker 1: your window, you have a nice sight sun coming up.
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  Speaker 1: Jaguars getting back to football today. The second half of
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  Speaker 1: the season kind of officially really begins when the Jaguars
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  Speaker 1: take the practice field a little bit later this morning.
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  Speaker 1: You've got your glasses out, John, how are you? And
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  Speaker 1: it looks like you've chosen happy same one. No, I'm
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  Speaker 1: not chasing that would be a poor choice. I don't
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  Speaker 1: think so. At three and five, I think maybe it's
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  Speaker 1: a good choice on your part. I agree, And yeah,
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  Speaker 1: clean those off. Maybe you'll have a different perspect that
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  Speaker 1: when we started here. All right, So here we go
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  Speaker 1: with Jags Drivetime, brought to you by the Duval Motor Company,
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  Speaker 1: who invites you to discover the Duval Difference at four
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  Speaker 1: locations on Atlantic and Cassette here in Jacksonville and down
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  Speaker 1: the road in Gamesville. We start this morning with a
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  Speaker 1: Jags drive time poll on Twitter kind of like, John,
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  Speaker 1: we want to see where you're at here, right, so
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  Speaker 1: what are your emotions? Oh no, that's the wrong poll. Um,
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  Speaker 1: we'll get the right one up. Here's the new poll. Ready,
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  Speaker 1: take that one down there, MACS. You appreciate it. I'll
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  Speaker 1: read it to you and then you can go find
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  Speaker 1: it on Twitter. It says my take on the Jags
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  Speaker 1: with eight games to play? Might take on the Jags
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  Speaker 1: with eight games to play. They're gonna show you pal right,
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  Speaker 1: so you are wildly optimistic. Um, wildly wildly optimistic. Uh. Second,
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  Speaker 1: I'm a wreck watching them play, meaning you're not sure
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  Speaker 1: how much more you can take based on the last
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  Speaker 1: four games. You're casually indifferent, which means you don't want
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  Speaker 1: to get your hopes too higher, too low. And then
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  Speaker 1: other tell us where you are A B, C or
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  Speaker 1: D might take on the Jags with eight games to play?
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  Speaker 1: Is our Jags drive Time pull of the day on Twitter.
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  Speaker 1: Caried away in John B. B. How did I know
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  Speaker 1: that happen? And how could you not be o? Well,
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  Speaker 1: I mean there was there was a little bit more
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  Speaker 1: reason to not be a wreck in London. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I think we forget that they played sounds different. I
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  Speaker 1: think the biggest thing to be encouraged by London about
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  Speaker 1: was that for the first time in a month, they
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  Speaker 1: got down and fought back in the second half. It
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  Speaker 1: wasn't and that showed you that, you know, we've all
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  Speaker 1: seen teams, especially late in the season, when they think
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  Speaker 1: they're out of it, right, that they fight, fight, fight,
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  Speaker 1: and then once they're down you just know it's over. Well,
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  Speaker 1: it is a sign that they don't think they're out
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  Speaker 1: when in particular, so Carson Wentz led that ninety six
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  Speaker 1: yard drive to go up seventeen six and portals comes
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  Speaker 1: right back up the field, right, I mean, so there
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  Speaker 1: was some of that in the second half. Maybe more
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  Speaker 1: to the point is that the defense finally did what
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  Speaker 1: the defense had done, which is create turnovers and feel
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  Speaker 1: position for the offense. Now, the offense obviously has a
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  Speaker 1: ways to go. We're going to talk about that in
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  Speaker 1: Big Things, but there's some reason for optimism. Also, as
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  Speaker 1: we told you yesterday, Leonard Fournette is back on the
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  Speaker 1: practice field. We'll see what that means. To have the
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  Speaker 1: Jaguars feature back back in the line up. But let's
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  Speaker 1: start where we always start. Big thing, alright, big happy,
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  Speaker 1: big happy things. Big thing one is expectations. What's fair
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  Speaker 1: Looking at the second half of the season. We've seen
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  Speaker 1: a lot of predictions. Some are highly optimistic, thinking this
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  Speaker 1: team is not going to lose another game. Whoa yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and I've seen some that think on Twitter, and I've
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  Speaker 1: seen some that think they're gonna lose every game. Hence
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  Speaker 1: our poll, by the way, scientific as it may or
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  Speaker 1: may not be. But yeah, for me to make an expectation,
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  Speaker 1: I was asked this question, it's hard because I think
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  Speaker 1: it all depends on if this team can get the
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  Speaker 1: running game back, if Leonard for Net can be a
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  Speaker 1: key point in this offense. I think it's a good expectation.
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  Speaker 1: But if not, I don't have high expectations. So it's
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  Speaker 1: hard to make a bold expect Okay. So one of
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  Speaker 1: the reasons why we're doing this is we started the
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  Speaker 1: season with really impossibly high expectations. That was where we
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  Speaker 1: were this super Bowl or bust, based on what this
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  Speaker 1: team had done last year and what they did in
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  Speaker 1: the off season to improve themselves. Right, right, So now
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  Speaker 1: here you are three and five and you are what
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  Speaker 1: your record says you are. So with eight games remaining, uh,
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  Speaker 1: four in the Division, three of those on the road,
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  Speaker 1: what's a fair expectation, John, for this football team? Is
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  Speaker 1: the first to expect them to make a run? Realistically, Um,
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  Speaker 1: I think there is a decent chance that they go
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  Speaker 1: three and one in November, uh and then and then
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  Speaker 1: two and two down the strap. Okay, so five and
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  Speaker 1: three is about as good as I could expect. I
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  Speaker 1: get that this team matches up well against Pittsburgh. I'm
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  Speaker 1: assuming you beat the Colts twice and that you beat
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  Speaker 1: the Bills, And then I get they match up well
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  Speaker 1: against Pittsburgh, but they're not playing at a level that
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  Speaker 1: makes you think they can beat what has become a
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  Speaker 1: hot Steelers team anyway, but it on and if they
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  Speaker 1: have loving on Bell back then and then you get
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  Speaker 1: to the you know, I just don't like their chances
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  Speaker 1: against Tennessee, right, and I'm not sure I like their
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  Speaker 1: chances against Houston. So the expectation is that they're a
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  Speaker 1: middle of the pack team, um, which I well, five
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  Speaker 1: and three down the stretch would put you a little
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  Speaker 1: above the middle of the pack for the second half,
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  Speaker 1: but for the season, which you're right squarely in the
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  Speaker 1: middle of things, and we're not talking about a division
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  Speaker 1: title anymore. We're not talking about the playoffs. You're talking
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  Speaker 1: about a team rallying. Now here's the hard part about that.
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  Speaker 1: This is not a building team anymore. I mean, this
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  Speaker 1: was a team that was built. So that expectation that
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  Speaker 1: we're not talking about the playoffs here in the middle
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  Speaker 1: of the season is a real downer. Yeah, there was
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  Speaker 1: no middle of the pack talk in August, right, because
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  Speaker 1: now next year is not about building and building off
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  Speaker 1: of what you did this year. Next year is about
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  Speaker 1: how do you change things? That's what becomes of this
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  Speaker 1: and um, yeah, it would be about how you change things.
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  Speaker 1: It would uh change things, Let's be honest, and we
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  Speaker 1: will talking about points next. That's how you change your
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  Speaker 1: offense and what you have to do to your defense
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  Speaker 1: to create the cap room and what you have to
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  Speaker 1: use with the draft, I mean for your defense. I
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  Speaker 1: guess the last eight games this season would show you
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  Speaker 1: how much you need to change with your offense. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I think so. If they if if they come back,
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  Speaker 1: and for net and Carlos Hide, I'm assuming that t
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  Speaker 1: J won't be back, not that he's not a good player,
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  Speaker 1: but the contract situation and running back is a position
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  Speaker 1: where you don't you move on unless it's an elite play.
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  Speaker 1: So they traded for Carlos Hide clearly to be a
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  Speaker 1: a guy moving forward, how they play, I think will
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  Speaker 1: determine what they think of the offense and and and
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  Speaker 1: what they think of their plan, because I think they
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  Speaker 1: like their plan. Nobody else does. But they haven't had
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  Speaker 1: a chance to see their plan and play out yet
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  Speaker 1: because the injuries, and we're gonna talk about that one points.
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  Speaker 1: Five and three is a fair expectation for this football team.
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  Speaker 1: Five wins in their final eight games. You look at
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  Speaker 1: the schedule, you see what and of course for an
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  Speaker 1: it has to be healthy for that to happen. Um,
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  Speaker 1: But with the injuries along the offensive line, I think
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  Speaker 1: five and three is fair, right. I think anything above
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  Speaker 1: that is gravy and anything below that is underachieving, which
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  Speaker 1: is what Calais Campbell told us to the locker room
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  Speaker 1: on Monday. They had done through the first half of
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  Speaker 1: the season. If they win more than five, I like
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  Speaker 1: their chances to be better than five and three. But
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  Speaker 1: if they win more than five, do you like their
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  Speaker 1: chances to make some noise in the AFC South race. Well,
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  Speaker 1: I think three and once possible in November. What you
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  Speaker 1: worry about with I shouldn't say worry, but what the
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  Speaker 1: reality becomes. Three and one would get you to six
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  Speaker 1: and six going in. I do wonder if as many
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  Speaker 1: I think it's going to take a um a massive
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  Speaker 1: effort to get to that point for this team. I
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  Speaker 1: don't think they're very good right now, but it would
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  Speaker 1: take an emotional November. I would kind of see that
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  Speaker 1: playing out similar to two thousand Brian if you remember
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  Speaker 1: when they were down one four straight, got back in
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  Speaker 1: it and then really just didn't have enough left and
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  Speaker 1: uh and I lost to the Bengals, lost the Giants.
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  Speaker 1: They were beat up team that year, and they had
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  Speaker 1: done all they could to get to seven and seven.
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  Speaker 1: I would sort of I could see that playing out
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  Speaker 1: the same way this year, just because when you do
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  Speaker 1: sort of a herculean effort to get back in something
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  Speaker 1: in our full strength, hard to keep it going right. Alright,
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  Speaker 1: moving along, next on the big list, all right, big
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  Speaker 1: thing too is points fleet So it's but no question
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  Speaker 1: that this Jaguars offense has a trouble scoring points. The
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  Speaker 1: first half of the season. But I remember us talking
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  Speaker 1: about the Colts defense at the beginning of the season,
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  Speaker 1: and Brian, you were the one to say, a man,
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  Speaker 1: that is a bad Colts defense. But John, I was
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  Speaker 1: reading an article you wrote the other day saying that
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  Speaker 1: they're not as bad as we once thought they were.
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  Speaker 1: They have a banged up secondary, not as many good players.
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  Speaker 1: But don't overlook this Colts team. Yeah, they're not a
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  Speaker 1: bad team. Their defense. Um. Talking to Mike Chappell, who's
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  Speaker 1: a friend of mine from when I covered other Colts,
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  Speaker 1: worked for The Star for twenty five years, he's the
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  Speaker 1: main guy up there. Um, they're good, they're better. Um,
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  Speaker 1: they're good because they're a good offensive team. His point was, Um,
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  Speaker 1: they're playing okay defensively, they're they're playing ben but don't break.
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  Speaker 1: But there's not a lot of playmakers on that defense.
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  Speaker 1: And let's take a bigger look at this than just
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  Speaker 1: the Colts game on Sunday. Let's let's look at if
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  Speaker 1: you take the top four teams in the league. You know,
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  Speaker 1: most people would tell you in some order in the
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  Speaker 1: power pool. And we'll do that at the end of
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  Speaker 1: the show, Chiefs, rams, Um, Saints and Patriots, Right, those
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  Speaker 1: are the top four scoring teams in football, right, top
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  Speaker 1: four Jaguars are tied for twenty nine. Big problem with
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  Speaker 1: this offense right now. However, when you look at the Rams,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know how good Jared Goff is. I haven't
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  Speaker 1: seen enough of him. He looks pretty good. Of course,
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  Speaker 1: he's got Todd Gurley behind him, who was driving that
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  Speaker 1: entire ship right setting up Brandon Cooks, the deep threat
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  Speaker 1: they traded for. It seems to me when you watch
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  Speaker 1: them and they've got Cooper Cup. They've got some other
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  Speaker 1: guys that that fit in. But there are two star
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  Speaker 1: offensive players on that team behind a good and not
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  Speaker 1: a great offensive line, but good. The whole thing is
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  Speaker 1: made powered is powered by Girly the running back. Right.
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  Speaker 1: So you said earlier, the Jaguars haven't been able to
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  Speaker 1: play the way they want to play. They they may
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  Speaker 1: stay with their offensive formula, understanding that the injuries have
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  Speaker 1: cost them, right, But when you look at the Rams,
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  Speaker 1: it's not as if the Rams are the Saints. It's
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  Speaker 1: not as if you've got the corded throws the ball
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  Speaker 1: all over the field to a bevy of wide receivers.
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  Speaker 1: This guy is using the running game to power what
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  Speaker 1: they do on offense. Yeah, I would hesitate to say
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  Speaker 1: that the Bortles is golf. No, I'm not saying that
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  Speaker 1: he is. What I'm saying is the style of play
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  Speaker 1: that the Rams employee doesn't seem to be the same
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  Speaker 1: style that the Jaguars want to play, but it is.
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  Speaker 1: It's similar, and I think the thing that's easy to
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  Speaker 1: forget is a relatively similar approach. Last season had this
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  Speaker 1: team fifth in league and offense and a sixth in
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  Speaker 1: points or reversing that it was it was. It was
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  Speaker 1: a better offense than never got credit for it um
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  Speaker 1: which I still believe is what they built this thing
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  Speaker 1: this season. It needed to be more consistent than way
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  Speaker 1: last season, but it made plays. That's gone away because
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  Speaker 1: they can't run. What worries about the second half of
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  Speaker 1: the season is Leonard Fournette was one reason it went away.
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  Speaker 1: The loss of Camera Robinson and Josh Wells, the losses
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  Speaker 1: off Arian Jenkins, lost in Marquis Lee, loss of Corey Grant.
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  Speaker 1: Those are still pretty big five pieces for what appeared
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  Speaker 1: to be a complimentary, versatile offense early. But you're not
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  Speaker 1: getting those guys back. You're getting for Nett back and
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  Speaker 1: you have hides, So I I would still like to
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  Speaker 1: see some of the two back, some of the creative
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  Speaker 1: running back centric stuff that they used early. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if it's realist. I think they're going to have
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  Speaker 1: that this week. But if these guys can stay healthy,
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  Speaker 1: maybe you start working in a little bit and get
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  Speaker 1: back to dynamic. Well. I don't even want to make
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  Speaker 1: the comparison that that Leonard fo Nette is Todd Gurley. Mean,
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  Speaker 1: Todd Gurley looks like a you know what do you
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  Speaker 1: call it? Once in a generation back? I mean, he's
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  Speaker 1: fourteen fifteen touchdowns on the season already midway point of
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  Speaker 1: the season. Um. But the efficiency, to use that word again,
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  Speaker 1: the efficiency of Blake Bortles is tied directly to the
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  Speaker 1: availability of three point nine to four point two yards
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  Speaker 1: per carry. They've got to get that if they're they
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  Speaker 1: have got to get forget three point nine, they gotta
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  Speaker 1: get four four yards to carry out of their running
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  Speaker 1: game over the second half of the season. What this
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  Speaker 1: team wants you would love to be the Rams with
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  Speaker 1: this defense. This offense doesn't have to be the Rams.
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  Speaker 1: It just can't be one point five points in the
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  Speaker 1: second in the first half over four games, right, you
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  Speaker 1: can't be twenty nine in the league at score. If
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  Speaker 1: you get marginally better offensively and get and start getting
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  Speaker 1: back to twenty one points, then you give yourself a
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  Speaker 1: fighting chance. That's what you're hoping for from the offense.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, the Rams is a pipe dream
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  Speaker 1: right now. If you can get some sort of production
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  Speaker 1: to make it seem like you have a chance, that's
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  Speaker 1: the hope. I didn't give you the impression that I
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  Speaker 1: think this team can be the Rams. I'm sure when
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  Speaker 1: people here that thing, Well, I'm not gonna be the Rams. Well,
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  Speaker 1: the style of play, hey, not to be the Rams
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  Speaker 1: for the Jaguars. Point that I'm trying to get, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: the point that I'm trying to make is the style
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  Speaker 1: of play is conducive to scoring points for the Rams.
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  Speaker 1: So and it worked last year for this team. So
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  Speaker 1: over the second half of the season, let's see some points, right,
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  Speaker 1: I'm all for it. In other words, the futility, the
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  Speaker 1: futility that we have seen over the last month doesn't
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  Speaker 1: have to continue just because the system isn't changing. Correct, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: come on board, let's go. What's next. Big thing? Three
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  Speaker 1: is the a f C South looking at the division here. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: the Titans who are formed four right now? You still
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  Speaker 1: you still don't say Titans, right, don't ten? Titans? Titans?
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  Speaker 1: All right, let's go Texans have a bye week. Washington Titans,
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  Speaker 1: Cleveland and Indie next, Colton Jags game is now kind
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  Speaker 1: of a pre elimination game. The South bigger than we thought.
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  Speaker 1: And and Ashley, you and I talked about this yesterday
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  Speaker 1: when the Titans beat the Cowboys on the road on Monday,
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  Speaker 1: Monday night, Um, it made this game Sunday even bigger
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  Speaker 1: because one team is going to be half a game
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  Speaker 1: behind the Titans and the other team is going to
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  Speaker 1: be way back down the road, way back. And truthfully,
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  Speaker 1: the way that this division is, I still think the
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  Speaker 1: Texans are uncatchable. I think the addition of d Marius
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  Speaker 1: Thomas gives their running games something. But if you're fighting
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  Speaker 1: for that last playoff spot, uh, it got a more
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  Speaker 1: difficult on Monday night. It's gonna be this way every
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  Speaker 1: week now. They've got to embrace the pressure. Hopefully they
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  Speaker 1: learned something from last year that helps them down the road,
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  Speaker 1: because it ain't going away. This thing is gonna be
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  Speaker 1: a fight. If you win on if you win on Sunday,
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  Speaker 1: it's gonna be a slugfest every week. Well, then you've
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  Speaker 1: got you really have three or four or five games
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  Speaker 1: in a row that you've got to win four out
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  Speaker 1: of those five to feel like you're in it. It's
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  Speaker 1: it's a much more important pressurized game, excuse me, for
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  Speaker 1: the Jaguars and is the cults. The cults are still
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  Speaker 1: in the build. They didn't come into this season thinking
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  Speaker 1: they were any good their expectations. They've got cap space.
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  Speaker 1: If they lose this and finish six and ten, they're
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  Speaker 1: not because they got a bunch checks to write. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and truthfully that's good for them because they're still in
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  Speaker 1: that money spot in the draft where they can build. Right,
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  Speaker 1: They've got their quarterback and cap room. You're right, the
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  Speaker 1: pressure is off of them. But on this team, it's
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  Speaker 1: with four straight losses going up there to face Andrew Luck,
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  Speaker 1: whom they have not seen in what two years? Wow, No,
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  Speaker 1: I lost Sunday could end the season. And a lost
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  Speaker 1: season and a lost Sunday ending the season, it starts
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  Speaker 1: talking the off season. This is it. Yeah, I must
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  Speaker 1: swin John. We say it every week. This week it
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  Speaker 1: really is. And as I said, on Zone Blitz on Monday.
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  Speaker 1: If you keep on talking about must wins enough eventually
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  Speaker 1: one really is right. One more thing on this, it
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  Speaker 1: doesn't appear that things are breaking the Jaguars away right now.
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  Speaker 1: By that, By that right, I don't mean with this
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  Speaker 1: with injuries, I mean in the division. Sure. So you've
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: got the Texans who win a game on Sunday when
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: the highest paid kicker in football mr Is a fifty
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: one yard field goal right at mile high, which makes
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: it about forty three yards um. And then Sunday you've
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: got fumble fumble, fumble right out of the gate for
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: the Titans, right, and the Titans still find a way
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: to win on a day that they start so horribly.
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: I thought that was an impressive win for the Titan
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: You bet it was. I'm not mean I think there
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: are three game losing streak will wind up being an admiration. Okay,
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: It's just it makes it. The resounding theme for me
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: when I turned the TV off on Monday night was
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: everything just got more difficult for the Jaguars, which they're
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: in a big enough hole now at three and five,
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: but with the Titans starting to come on and the
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: Texans getting things game was handed to them on on Sunday.
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: Watch out Now the job is much more distinct, it's
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: much more profound to find your way into the mix
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: before the season is over. I am I breaking any
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: news here, but they've lost four straight games, the Jaguars,
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: all of which as much as we talked about the
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: fight against the Eagles, they've been down double digits in
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: the second half and haven't led in the second half
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: since September. Uh. Whatever difficulties have happened, they've played their
• 17:53
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• 18:02
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• 18:05
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  Speaker 1: for Jacks drive time Wednesday morning. Jaguars have shuffled their
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  Speaker 1: practice schedule. Uh, I'm not sure what it means, except
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: that it means we'll have uh Blake Boardles live for
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: you sometime in the eleven o'clock hour. What it means
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: on the field Sunday, that's to be the time. Yeah.
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: Things are a little bit different this week here for
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: the Jaguars and in the second half of the season. Um,
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: but when it comes to Wednesday, things are exactly the
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: same for us. After our first commercial time out, it's
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: time for go ahead. Why ruin a good thing? I'm
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: about to you hear that riff and you just think
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: not just let it play out. Every Wednesday he's still singing. Yeah,
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: every week he's worried. Joe Joe, Yes, he's still it's
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: gonna get worse. Well you've been singing or the record both?
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: Oh okay, alright, alright, Well we're hoping that next week
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: we get something you know, happy. No, well, yeah, next
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: week will be nice. However, this week, hope we're gonna
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: need it's a little luck. So we're gonna butcher wings. Now.
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: I didn't think you'd ever do that with a poem
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: of art. Nothing beating Andrew could just help us out.
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: You could make this whole damn thing work out. Beating
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: and Drew la shouldn't be that hard. We just need
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: the offense exploding. There is no wind to a week
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: and do together. Sometimes they write them hells. There is
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: low should write this London brevity a Brevey. Just do
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: not turn your back on Blake Borders forever, because if
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: he can do it, and if he can do it,
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: looks really screwed. Beating and just be the spark. Maybe
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: it lies in the hands have each chart. Let us
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• 22:46
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• 22:52
  Speaker 1: to win all win those games. Luck will have to change.
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: Will rely on a look with the name love Jane.
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: At least we will look good even if we don't play.
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: We know wishes muck Jimmy luck. What an't appearance that
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: he is beautiful? Someone's gonna make sure he gets to
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: hear this song. I think we can do that. From
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: our resident music critic, Paul McCartney was a member of
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: the band called the Beatles. That was a solo record,
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: Ashlyn on London Towns records were pieces of vinyl that
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: were set on turntable. It's very kind of both of
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: you to say. Paul McCartney and wings with his wife
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: Linda ex wife Linda. John was singing along over here. Yeah, yeah,
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: they didn't get divorced. Who's the one that he got
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: divorced from? Didn't you have a big didn't McCartney have
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: a big? Jane Asher? Okay, I can't keep track of
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: it all. Yeah, all right, okay, there you go. Well
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: then there's this good the zone. Oh it's already all right,
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: John from Jacksonville. You're writing yourself again. As a little
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: quick go ahead, I apologize. It is easier to gain
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: disrespect than to gain respect. An an f C Championship
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: game team gets bumped from two primetime games to one.
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: I look at other prime time matchups between teams with
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: losing records. In our case, it could have been between
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: a good Steelers team and a four and five Jacks team.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: I understand coaching players commented they didn't earn it. Explain that,
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: oh well, unless your people, and I'm sure you guys
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: covered this yesterday. You know, the little flex thing. But
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: fands we're not happy. Well, and I guess I don't
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: get that. I understand anger towards the team for not
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: playing well enough to maintain their spot in that game,
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: but it didn't surprise me that they got flexed, and
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: it didn't particularly anger me. You're three and five. Uh,
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: the last two times you were on national TV, you
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: played horribly. The game was over by the midway through
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: the second quarter, and you can say what you wanted about. Well,
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: there were other teams or there are other teams that
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: maintain national TV games. I guess that's what the argument is. Well,
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: it's a different market. Well, and so Monday Night Football
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: next week is New York and San Francisco, two of
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: the statistically worst teams in the league, worst records in
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: the league. But it's New York and San Francisco, which
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: will draw more people even for bad teams than Jacksonville.
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: Because if that was a Sunday game might get flexed.
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: You can't flex off of Monday and Thursday because you
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: can't change the schedule that late. You can't, so it's
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: really just a Sunday centric But it might even stay
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: on if it was a Sunday night game because of
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: the two markets, New York and San francisticality, and this team,
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: if it's going to be on prime time, has to
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: earn it more than others. That's the reality and always
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: has but always has been. That is not new because
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: all the way back to when they got their very
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: first prime time game here, Monday night football game, which
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: was then the big one, they had to earn it.
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: They had to be good and they only got one
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: that year nine seven, right they did. They had They
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: won a ninety five when they were a new team
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: against Green Bay here when T n T still had
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: the broadcast if you remember. But but that was the
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: team had to have. Absolutely that was a novelty at
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: that point. But in nineties seven it was that first
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: time where they went, okay, they picked the Jaguars because
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: the Jaguars are good. They were coming off of that
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: run to the a f C Championship game. That's the
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: only way, and it's always been that way. That's the
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: difference in market size. They can adjust it. They can
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: make them put every team on once, or they can
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: adjust the salary cap based on revenue sharing and all
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: of that stuff. But when it comes to eyeballs on TV.
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: You can't just market size to market size, right, So
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: I wasn't surprised. I wasn't necessarily upset because again, I
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: feel like if they had played well in against Kansas
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: City and Dallas, if they had been this team that
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: we saw last year, which was that a dynamic, uh
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: compelling team to watch, it was a state they're not
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: compelling to watch right that if you were NBC, would
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: you want this team on right now? Well, you saw
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: the Twitter poll right right, the respondents say they're wreck watching,
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: not because they're compelling to watch this. This team played
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: its way off of NBC for the last month. I
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: think that most people understand that. Intrinsically, they understand it.
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: There's a there's a little anger at that because they
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: wanted the, for lack of a better term, glory that
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: comes with being on national television. They've had this um
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: NBC Sunday Night Football package has been the primetime package
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: since the two thousand seven season, and the Jaguars have
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: never appeared on it. In the postseason, they were on
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: a Saturda in Pittsburgh. They've never been here for a
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: prime time regular season game. People were excited about So
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: I get why they're unhappy with it, how and there
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: are a couple of people, by the way, uh, some
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: folks from Europe that were coming over for the game
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: that are extremely unhappy with it because it's impacting their
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: ability to see the game bringing it to a one
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: o'clock kickoff. So there is a little bit of that,
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: But you can't deny, and most everybody would tell you
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: that when you're playing the way that they are, they
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: get it. They don't deserve it right where they got shafted?
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: Can I say shaft you just the internet joke? They
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: should have gotten a home Monday game. Uh, but that's
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: that's a six month old story that should have happened
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: way back when, uh, way back when being April. But
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: they should have gotten more in the Monday Night package.
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: But I can perfectly understand why NBC took out of
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: you know, and by the way, it wasn't two primetime
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: games to one, although it seems that way. They also
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: quietly we're told that they weren't good enough to be
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: the primetime game against Miami in late December. Remember that
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: was a flax game. There were a couple of other
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: people involved in that. But you would have thought with
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: Miami and Jacksonville, you had a good chance to play
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: that game early in the season based on what we
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: thought this team was going to be, and that one
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: was taken away too. They decided that they weren't good
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: enough for that game, so they got two really good
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: You know, nobody thinks of the four fIF CBS spots
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: is big spots, but those are big spots. They've had
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: three of those already and performed poorly in two of them,
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: horrifically poorly. From the don't want that, So right there
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: you go, all right, next next Bob from South Carolina.
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: One thing for sure in the NFL, success is often
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: not for long. Derek Carr, Dak Prescott, Jamis Winston, Blake
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: Boardles and their respective teams. Senay a few a few
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: recent ones. Yeah, I mean it's uh. People want to
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: judge quarterbacks always based on one year. And that's why
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: I'm still a little gun shy on anointing to Shaun Watson,
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: uh and some other young guys like that, because with
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: that position, if if you would have told anybody two
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: years ago that Derek Carr would be available or would
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: be an option, people would have jumped at it, and
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: they thought he was the next rising star and has
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: a franchise defining contract to prove it um and he's not.
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: So it it takes time. I do think we've seen
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: enough from Blake to know what he is. I didn't
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: include that to say that they shouldn't make a change
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: after this season, but it does show you that circumstance
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: and being in a good situation early in a career
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: can often make a quarterback look much better than he
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: actually is. The one that really stood out to me
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: on that listens jamis Uh, you know, coming out of
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: Florida State, number one pick in the draft, and they
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: did exhausted work on that guy. Uh, the folks down
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: to Tampa did. And when they were here for the
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: practice sessions last year, I remember watching prototypical I mean
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: almost Cam Newton ask in terms of his physique. You know,
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: this great, big guy with an absolute cannon for an
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: arm and was throwing the ball accurately when we watched
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: him play last year. And now all of a sudden,
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: you know he's cast aside for Ryan Fitzpatrick. You it's
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: different doing that to a number one overall pick, the
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: guy that you you know you bring in to be
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: the hallmark of the franchise. That was the hallmark draft
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: pick that year, and now you put him on the bench.
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: I don't know how you get him back. It's well,
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: when you bent between games and don't start somebody, it's
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: awfully hard to bring him back. And it's it's been done.
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: It happens. Nothing's unprecedented, but it's rare. Okay, last month,
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: let's go to Dawn from Florida, Oh Zone. This season
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: has spelled in many ways. Like the two eighteen season seasons,
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: both seasons look promising based on the previous year. Both
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: of involved significant injuries on the O line. Do you
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: think the Jags can finish better this year than they
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: did that year? I'll defer to Brian a little bit
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: on exactly what happened in two thousand eight. Uh, it
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: does feel similar. I'm in this one. I wasn't in
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: that one. I think they'll finish better than five and
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: eleven this year. Um, but there are some similarities. Uh,
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: and I'll let you speak to well. How similar there?
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: You know, I don't don't recall, to be honest, I
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: went back and looked. I don't recall the offensive line
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: being as big a story that year as it is
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: this year right where you lose two left tackles, that
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: seems sort of just got old, right, I mean they did,
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: and so they played in two thousand seven. They exceeded
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: expectations and they went to the divisional round. And so
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: they paid Jack del Rio, they paid David Garrard. They
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: went out and gave Jerry Porter a ten million dollar
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: signing bonus to come in from the Raiders. He had
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: one touchdown, catching was a non factor the entire time,
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: so they were upgrading their offense. They thought they had
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: a decent defense. Now, the difference being when they paid Porter,
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: they paid him extended as opposed to paying Moncreef, which
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: was a rent. Right. Well, I had to go back
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: and look at that. There was ten million dollars in
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: bonus money that they brought in that may have been
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: spread over two years, but it was basically a one
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: year ten million dollar contracts. Yeah, sort of the same deal.
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: They went out and they traded Marcus Stroud for third
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: and fifth round picks, right, just they traded Dante fowler Um.
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: But they used those to move up and take Derek
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: Harvey from Florida, who was a total bust right. Basically,
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: what that team did was they looked at two thousand
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: and seven and they said, we're close. All we need
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: is a receiver and a pass rusher and we're done.
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: And so they went and they got the best receiver
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: they thought they could get, who wasn't any good, and
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: he took the money and ran I could kill the
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: entire rest of the show with stories about Jerry Porter
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: in his time here. Um. They went and moved up
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: in the draft. By the way, Joe Flacco was the
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: quarterback was sitting where they ended up where they were.
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: They traded with Baltimore. Baltimore went back and took Joe Flacco.
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: That would have been a better move for the Jaguars
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: in hindsight, but because they had paid David Gerrard, they
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: weren't even thinking that way. They jump up to eight
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: to take Derek Harvey and he holds out and he
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: does nothing, so they get nothing from that season and
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: it was a total loss. Um. They're similar in that
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: the Jaguars went and augmented their roster, you know, in
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: sponsor wide receiver um on the offensive line to help
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: the running game. But they're different because there's more talent here,
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: and they did more the year before, UM, and they
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: there's a lot of similarities, but I don't think they're
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: the same. I just don't. I don't know how to
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: describe it. I mean, yeah, they paid the quarterback here. Yeah,
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: they went and upgraded the roster here. Yeah, they're swinging
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: for the fences here, right. I mean, didn't Dave Caldwell
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: say at the combine they're gonna try to finish this
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: thing off, right? So the mentality is very similar. Um.
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: That team wasn't as talented as this team is. Also,
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: it's sorry to break the future and things like this.
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: That team in retrospect took so long to come out
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: of it, Um because the talent was on the decline.
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: I tread was at the end. I don't feel like
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: the young talent on this roster is going to if
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: this season would go five and eleven, six and ten,
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: I don't feel like the young talent on this roster
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: would leave it barren moving forward. I think there are
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: pieces to build with that I believe are better than
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: the pieces at that time. And I'm saying this time,
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: I'm saying the same thing. I think that the talent
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: on this team, especially on the defensive side of the
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: bowl is significantly better. Um, you know, I mean I
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: think Deeedie Westbrook is a better wide receiver than Dennis
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: north Cutt for sure. You know, uh, you don't have
• 35:49
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• 35:52
  Speaker 1: Lewis at that point. They had Morris Jones Drew who
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: is just coming into his prime, and you've got Leonard
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: that you know, you you spent the fourth pick in
• 35:58
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• 36:00
  Speaker 1: you don't think that he has the capability to become
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: that kind of a performer for you, well then you
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: blew that draft pick. Right. So there are a lot
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: of similarities. Um, I guess the big similarity is the
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: question at quarterback. Yeah, which is but that's sort of
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: a true thread. Do any team that's not there? It
• 36:21
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• 36:23
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  Speaker 1: thing on the on that two thou team, and you
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  Speaker 1: tell me whether it's there or not. That two thousand
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: eight was a You knew that if they didn't get
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: home that year, that there were going to be changes,
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: right you just you knew that that after the mistakes
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: of the past, you felt like that team had to
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: win um or else. And obviously there were changes after
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: that season. I don't do you have that sense here?
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: I think the next eight games to tell you the
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: next eight games when you're three and five, if you
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: if you show so much depends on if the offense
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: can show in the last eight games that this approach, uh,
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: it can work. Then you know, you go five and three,
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: you go four and four, you show signs of life.
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: You certainly the last month can't repeat itself twice. You
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: wouldn't think. Well, the change that they made in two
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: thousand eight was they fired Jack Harris and elevated Jeane Smith.
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: So I mean they were looking for a change in
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: the front office as much as anything, um a change
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: in direction of change in leadership, although Jack stayed, um,
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: I just I don't get that vibe. No, No, I don't,
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: And I'm trying to. I'm trying to answer the question
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: because as I sit and think there there are a
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: lot of similarities right in terms of what they did
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: personnel wise, and what they did with the cap and
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: how they took things. And you know, they extended Jack,
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: but they extended Tom and Dave and Doug here, So
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: there are a lot of similarities. It just doesn't feel
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: the same as two thousand eight felt. I think there
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: would be similarities any time that you had a team
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: that's a game away from the super Bowl, or with
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: that team was two games way from the super Bowl
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: and you and you add a couple of pieces of
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: trying to get there. I think most teams would typically
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: take that approach. Most teams are not going to change
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: their quarterback or change their structure when they're that close.
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: So any any team that got there and fell back
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: was going to be compared to the two thousand eighteen. So,
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: you know, it's an interesting conversation to have because when
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: you really dig into the weeds, you do find a
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: lot of similarities. I just have this sense that the
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: talent on this defense is significantly better. And that wasn't
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: a bad defense, but it's significantly better. Um, And so
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: I just don't I just don't have the same feeling
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: about this team that I did about that you sort
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: of got to find out over the last few games.
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: Are D D. Westbrook, Shark born at Norwell Lender. Those
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: to me feel like the core guys Cam Robinson. Perhaps
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: if he comes back from the A C I, which
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: I'm about assume you will do, they think that's a
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: core and you can add a couple of spots to
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: that and get his offense. But alright, young ladies, time
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: for you? Are we ready? I missed time off? Anyway?
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: Go ahead? Ash has number one, something we asked almost
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: weekly when we have a game. Who has a big
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: game this week? Who starts the second half of the
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: season off strong, gets this team hopefully back on the
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: winning track. Who has a big game? Bryan, you were quick,
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: quick on the gun there, let's see it. I say
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: it's a big game this week. The Colts are not
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: a powerful defense. Uh, they're not a big body defense.
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: And last year t J. Yelden hadn't played in the
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: first six games and ran for two yards in the
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: sixty seven yard touchdown. I say, has a big game
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: against the defense that isn't ready for prime to I
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: still don't. I don't think they're all that good, but
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: they have Andrew Luck and um and he puts them
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: in positions where they can be good. But I say,
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: for net a big games with fair what do you got?
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: I'm in a different direction figured Brian would say for
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: I had a little time, so I drew some exclamation.
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna say d D Westbrook. He's been more consistent
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: and better this year than I think people given credit for.
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: It's been. It's been a little lost. If they were
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: having a good year, Uh, and he was having these numbers,
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: you'd be talking about him. You're surprised by him, aren't you,
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: Because we talked in camp and you weren't sure what
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: he was. Yeah, I mean it's uh. You weren't sure
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: after last year. Uh. And you're never sure with a
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: second year player what he's going to turn into in
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: terms of work ethic and approach. And he's turned into
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: a player who obviously worked to improve this offseason, knows
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: the offense better. Um, I think for Net needs to
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: have a good game for this to happen. But at
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: some point in this league, if you're gonna start turning around,
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: you gotta get production out of the wide receivers. Uh.
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: And it's I think if if they have a good
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: game offensively, which I leaned toward them having because I
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: just I just don't think this can go on forever.
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: And I think Deed Westbrooks the guy I um just
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: a little perspective on him. So he came in with
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: the off the field troubles at Oklahoma and just talking
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: to people last year, they they kind of thought he
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: had a little bit of in him, you know what
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: is this guy? And he wasn't very mature and was
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: kind of a pain in the butt. And this year
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: he hasn't really been. I mean, I've been really impressed
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: with him. Uh. This week in the locker rooms, he
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: talked when no one else wanted to talk. Right. Heelan
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: Coles a second year guy too and has had some
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: big games. It doesn't want to talk right all of
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: a sudden, He's beyond that. This guy is growing up.
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: He is a leader in a room that lost its
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: leader in Marcquise Lee and Dante Bank. Griep is not
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: a leader. He's become that. I've been very impressed with
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: the way that he's handled himself. For a guy that
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: slid to the fourth round because of some off the
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: field trouble, he has risen above it. Yeah. I don't
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: know that he's ever going to be a rock star
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: number one receiver. Uh. Maybe he will, but he not
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: everybody is. But he is looking more and more to
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: me like a guy who's going to have a long,
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: productive career and who is definitely a good draft pick,
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: uh in the fourth round. And as he pointed out
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: after the Jets win, which seems so long ago, when
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: he made catches over the middle, that he's tough too.
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: He's not just fast, so he's really tough. Yeah. A
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: lot of a lot of admiration for that young man
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: in the way that he's grown. Yeah, it's out to me.
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: When I asked him about the drop balls, and he
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: really hasn't had that many drop balls this season, But
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: I asked him about the group as a whole, how
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: do you fix that? Yos, And he's talking about the
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: fundamentals and he never said, you know, he didn't point
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: out himself that he didn't have that many drop balls,
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: and I was more still talking about Keelan Cole and
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: d J. Chark against the Eagles, but it kind of
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: spoke about the group as a whole, which made me
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: show that he was kind of a leader there. There's
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: some key drop passes against the Texans to you know,
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: the receiving corps has got to be better over the
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: next couple of weeks. All right, John, You're home away
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: from home, Indianapolis. Favorite part about Indie. Oh boy, I've
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: never been there. I can't really chime in that much,
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: but I'm excited to go. I've heard good things. I've
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: heard it's cold, good sports bars, it is. It is cold.
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: You're gonna say low thirties isn't cold. What is John
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: doing here? He's using his phone. I'm curious. What mean?
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: My real answer is leaving because we were ready to
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: leave Indie as a family, and we're very glad to
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: be back in Jacksonville. And uh, I was. I was
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: ready to get home. But the downtown and it's uh,
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: it's not something you experience a lot when you live
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: in a place. We didn't go to downtown India whole lot,
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: because you know, we're married with a kid. We're not
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: gonna get the club while you're missing it. And he
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: missed that. Did they miss it? They have no idea
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: how much they missed it. Um. But it's a great
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: little downtown and it's set up for events. It's set
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: up for Final Fours and and for Super Bowls and
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: uh so it's it's a very convenient downtown, a very
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: good downtown. And uh I'm glad to be living in
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: this town in Jacksonville. Does that look like a shoe? Right?
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: Walkability is for what you're talking about. You get to
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: the hotel and you can walk to dinner, you can
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: walk to church, you can walk to them all, you
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: can anywhere you're going. You can walk everything is downtown.
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: You never have to get into Caburn uber. I love it.
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: I have. We've been going there so long. I have
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: a little routine where I go hit mass and then
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: dinner and I do the whole thing in a walking loop.
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: By the time I get back, there's a college football
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: game on and I just relax. It's it's a it's
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: a great little routine and I think it's um. You know,
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: when the Jags went into the a f C South.
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: It felt awkward because it was kind of a leftover division,
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: right teams Tennessee, Jacksonville, Indianapolis and the new Houston team
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: that didn't really necessarily fit with any of the others.
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: Um but Nashville is a terrific uh downtown and Indianapolis
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: is a great trip for the downtown and it's a
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: quick trip. I mean it's an hour and a half
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: and you can just stop there, you know, like Houston
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: it is. I'm sure if you're from Houston. It's completely
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: different aspects of Houston. But there are neighborhoods in Houston,
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: and we stay in one of them when we stay
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: way out in Memorial City that I kind of like
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: to So, Okay, it's not a bad division from that perspective.
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: You begged to death. It's not the Old West with
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: Seattle in Kansas City and San Diego and Denver. I mean,
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: those were those were the days. But it's not bad.
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: All right, Last one, John, You've already said this, but
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: let's look at the quarter. We know how Doug Moron
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: likes to go in quarters. What is the record this
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: quarter and on the second half of the season. I
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: gotta do some racing. Here we go racing a lot.
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: This is the way we're racing. John said three one
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: earlier in the show. Let's see if he sticks with him. Yeah,
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: we have no time for drawings. I'll go yeah. I
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: think they beat the Colts twice, and I think they
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: get to two and two in the a f C. South.
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: I think they're three and one, which puts them at
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: six and six. John, and with exclamation point, excited about it,
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: because that's why you see the low actimation points. And
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: if you go three and one, you entered December with
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: a chance. Yeah, at this rate, you're three and one.
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: You go three and one, you're six and six. I
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: think most people would consider that a victory. And I
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: think it would get people excited. It would keep the
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: conversation going. Uh, it would show it needs to be
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: a decent three in one. I mean, you know, you
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: don't want to have a thirteen ten thirteen table, but
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: I say that get it. How you get it? Get
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: to three and one? If your next point deferential is
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: plus four, you'll take it, meaning you win all four
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: games by a total plus one oh thirteen twelve, Right,
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: take it. That'd be really good. They'd better than three
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: and one. That's what I'm saying. Who cares how you
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: do it? Just do it? All right, that's it, that's all.
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: That's all I have. I liked your drawings, John, all done.
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: I excelled in kindergarten. I bet I bet you did.
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: I bet those were good for you. Yeah, they weren't
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: moving right along. Time for top tweetst tweets, tweets, top tweets.
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: All right, the first top tweet, and it was a
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: big one. It was across Instagram and Twitter. Last night,
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: Leonard for Net tweeting out submit yourself to God, Resist
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: the Devil. Happy to be back at Jaguars and he
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: said let's go Jaguars on his Instagram story. I hope
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: his impact on Sunday is as big as that seven
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: around his neck. Yeah, let's hope. So. I can't believe
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: he's not leaning forward with that thing. But what what
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: is that made of? But what was that thing cost?
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: I don't have one. I don't know. That chain started
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: when I was king the lock one day and he
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: goes Yo zone like that change, and I said, hey,
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: do I want like it? I told him shop and said,
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: I don't wear it a lot around here. Yeah, yeah,
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: I've I've never seen it would embarrass me. I wouldn't
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: want to be around you. And this week it feels
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: like a restart. Yes. The thing that's too bad is
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: your restarting with your head barely above water and you
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: better start swimming. Um. So hopefully this is a push.
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: Hopefully this buys a push, and hopefully we look back
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: on this is the first half the season with the
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: last season and that this kid is the rock star
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: that I know. He's wearing a number seven, but when
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: I saw that, I immediately wished it was four. As
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: in a reminder that he was the fourth overall pick
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: in the draft, which is a featured position at a
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: position that hadn't been featured that way in a while
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: for reason, because he was a powerful downhill runner in college.
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: He needs to play like number four in order to
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: get this team where it wants to go. Another guy
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: back on the practice field this week. This one's for you,
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: Brian Tyler Patman tweet about less Miles possibly taking the
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: Kansas head coaching job. Front runner. If that man wants
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: the job, they better give it to him, all right,
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: So here you go. Um, Kansas is a terrible football team.
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: The basketball. Yeah, good basketb the one last night. Um,
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: I asked Tyler Pattman because we had never had never
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: have had a Jayhawk in here ever, practice squad, uh,
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: you know, workout. Never. So I said to him at
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: an event this offseason, Hey, you're the first jayhawky goes
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: I finished Ocoma State kind of went ouch, right, he
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: finished as a cowboy, So I would say give him
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: the job too, But that's me Patment is not proud
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: to be a Jayhawk. Well, I bet he was watching
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: the basketball team. Yeah, really, I'd be proud to leave
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: it there all right. Last one goes to ESPN NFL
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: stats Top and red zone offenses this season. You saw
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: a big column and then in the tiny little column
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: is the worst red zone offense and you see the
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: Jaguars thereon offense. Yeah, and that gets back to as
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: much as we talked about the injuries, as much as
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: we talked about a lot of things, there's still some
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: key things they're not doing. Uh the turnovers and takeaways,
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: which we haven't talked about a couple of weeks, but
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: that's still a real thing. And they were very good
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: here last year and they're not this year. And that
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: was lost injuries has something to do with that. But
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: if you if you, if you score those two touchdowns
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: in the red zones stead of field goals in the
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: fourth quarter against Philly, you may come away with a win.
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: And that raised that stat you might be born four
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: at this point, right, I mean that's how they probably
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: look back at the Titans probably something similar there. So
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: you're five and three with a bad three games streak,
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: and you feel better about you and in the red zone.
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: And I had to have to go back and look
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: at the Texas that they didn't get to the red
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: zone against the Titans? Did they? And I think they
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: made it to the red zone against Tennessee, But that
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: game against Philadelphia had two point blank opportunities each time
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: you ended up with a field goal. And you said it.
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: They were very good in the red zone last year,
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  Speaker 1: one of the better teams in the league. And that
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  Speaker 1: that got lost, that got lost amongst the a f
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  Speaker 1: and plus seventeen and all of that, they were very
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  Speaker 1: efficient in the red zone. Eight games left. What can
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  Speaker 1: How many? How many inches? Yeah? Okay, and that's for
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  Speaker 1: With eight games to play, They're gonna show you pal
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  Speaker 1: uh too, indifference or other Let us know uh. The
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  Speaker 1: updated by the crew on Happy Hour this afternoon. I'm
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  Speaker 1: a wreck. I think that's funny. I don't know why. Um, well,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not funny all the time, So thank you, You're welcome.
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  Speaker 1: I'll take it. Let's go to power rankings for whatever
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  Speaker 1: they're worth, a great thing asterisk next to them, but
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  Speaker 1: our evaluation the top of the league. And here you go, John,
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  Speaker 1: it's asterisk astricts. Yeah. I figured you're craz Yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: know you should correct me. Um the same as it
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  Speaker 1: ever was. I mean, this is tricky because you've got
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  Speaker 1: four teams that I think are basically inseparably. Any one
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  Speaker 1: of those top four teams right now, I think he'd
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  Speaker 1: be surprised. Within the super Bowl, I have the Eiefs
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  Speaker 1: over the Patriots because the Patriots beat them in New England.
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  Speaker 1: But I have the Saints over the Rams even though
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: the same is true. So there's no logic to my rank.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if there's right. There's actually my power rankings, Saints, Chiefs, Rams, Patriots, Chargers,
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  Speaker 1: twenty three Jaguars, John, the same thing. The top four.
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  Speaker 1: You can make an argument for all of them. I
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: was just really impressed with that Saints when watching that
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  Speaker 1: game and actually getting to watch it. They're an impressive team.
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  Speaker 1: I went with the Saints as well at the top
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: just because the magnitude of the game. Chiefs beat the Browns.
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: You know they they're going to beat the Browns. Um.
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: The team that I was really impressed with was the Chargers.
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  Speaker 1: I couldn't move them up in front of any of
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  Speaker 1: those other teams because they all want impressive games. Um.
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  Speaker 1: But boy, going on the road and beating Seattle, even
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  Speaker 1: the Seattle that isn't quite as good as it has
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  Speaker 1: been in recent years. That's a tough place to play,
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: and it's a difficult, long road trip. And their kicker
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: was missing all over the place, and they still held on,
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: and they still held on, and Philip Rivers was making
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: really good throw Melvin Gordon continues to impress. You know,
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: one of the better backs in the league, and he
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: just gets forgotten about out on the West Coast. But
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  Speaker 1: I think he'll make a nice run in the second
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  Speaker 1: half of the season. I really like the Charges. I
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: left Jaguars where they work because they didn't play. If
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  Speaker 1: the Jaguars can't win it, I would like to see
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  Speaker 1: the Charges win it because of Philip Rips. I hate
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  Speaker 1: him when your team's playing him, but everything you here
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  Speaker 1: about him is he's one of the best guys in
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  Speaker 1: the NFL. It'd be cool to see him take quick
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: story about Philip gros uh and so big Catholic and uh.
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: He came in last year and had a priest that
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  Speaker 1: I know and asked him to come and do Mass
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: for him and some of the other guys on Friday night.
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: After Mass, he said, where can I spend some money
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  Speaker 1: and help people? So there's a community down in Hastings, Florida.
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: You didn't give my name. Anyway, he went and spent
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  Speaker 1: three thousand dollars on groceries and uh and drove them
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  Speaker 1: down to this community out by Hastings and filled the
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  Speaker 1: pantry for both the men's in the women's house for
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: the entire month after he was here. Um eight kid,
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  Speaker 1: this great family guy. The last time we were out there,
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  Speaker 1: I saw him on the field throw in the ball
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  Speaker 1: to all of his kids, all of them that could run. Um.
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  Speaker 1: Every word on him is that he is a tremendous
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  Speaker 1: human being. And people that I know that have interacted
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  Speaker 1: with it say, you you have no idea. So I
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  Speaker 1: cheer for him to thank You's a heck of a player.
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: Um all right, speaking of heck of Joe Fortunato, you're
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: a heck of a singer. Your vocal range man, here
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  Speaker 1: we go. Uh. Max Hockman's in the other room. He's
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