Latest / Best of Business / Jenee Tibshraeny: NZ Herald Wellington business editor on the Government's bid to discourage investment into flood prone areas of the country
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- 0:16Speaker 2: Sixteen past six on newstalks 'B. An inquiry into climate
- 0:19Speaker 2: adaptation has seeing politicians of all stripes agree the government
- 0:23Speaker 2: should not try to stop the values of properties that
- 0:26Speaker 2: are vulnerable to the effects of climate change from plummeting.
- 0:30Speaker 2: Through this, they're looking to discourage investment in flood prone areas.
- 0:33Speaker 2: Seems to make sense, right. Janet Tibtrainey is the New
- 0:35Speaker 2: Zealand Herald Wellington Business editor and it is with us
- 0:38Speaker 2: this evening. Heyjan A, Hey Jack, So just explain this
- 0:41Speaker 2: to us, because it's rare that we see politicians of
- 0:43Speaker 2: all stripes agreeing on anything, but this does seem like
- 0:45Speaker 2: a bit of a no brainer. Yeah.
- 0:47Speaker 3: Look, I think this is interesting because this issue around
- 0:51Speaker 3: how do we respond to climate change? You know, do
- 0:54Speaker 3: we let communities stay in flood prone areas when there
- 0:59Speaker 3: are big disasters? Do we bail people people out? Do
- 1:02Speaker 3: we pay for them to relocate? If so, how much
- 1:05Speaker 3: do we pay? Do we compensate them fully? These are
- 1:07Speaker 3: really thought awny gnally questions, and I feel like politicians
- 1:11Speaker 3: have been putting off addressing this issue for quite some years. Interestingly,
- 1:15Speaker 3: now we have members of the Finance and Expenditure Committee.
- 1:18Speaker 3: These are politicians from across the political spectrum agreeing to
- 1:22Speaker 3: some high level principles around how we need to deal
- 1:26Speaker 3: with this issue going ahead. So they've done this inquiry,
- 1:30Speaker 3: they've released the report, they've agreed to some broad principles.
- 1:32Speaker 3: These are the ones you sort of said in your intro. Jack. Basically,
- 1:35Speaker 3: they're saying that that the government can't sort of stand
- 1:39Speaker 3: behind property owners and it can't protect people's wealth. So
- 1:43Speaker 3: if you own a property and your insurer decides, actually
- 1:46Speaker 3: this is a very high risk area, your premiums are
- 1:48Speaker 3: going to go through the roof. You might not be
- 1:50Speaker 3: able to get some type of insurance cover. You know
- 1:53Speaker 3: that it's really hard your property value your property value fools,
- 1:56Speaker 3: it's unfair, it's not fun situation to be and thus
- 1:59Speaker 3: saying well, we can't really do anything about that, and
- 2:02Speaker 3: in fact, we kind of need to see the price
- 2:06Speaker 3: of properties reflect the risk, and if the pricing reflects risk,
- 2:10Speaker 3: that will push people to live in in safer areas.
- 2:14Speaker 3: So it's actually quite a bold statement they're making just
- 2:17Speaker 3: as a high level principal.
- 2:19Speaker 2: Comment, Yeah, what are the insurers saying.
- 2:23Speaker 3: Look, the insurers are welcoming this. They want some direction
- 2:27Speaker 3: because you know, they're at the front line of this.
- 2:29Speaker 3: They're getting flat because they're adjusting premiums in line with risk.
- 2:33Speaker 3: They think it's great that politicians are signaling that they
- 2:37Speaker 3: might take some sort of lead. I think insurers will
- 2:40Speaker 3: also be pleased that politicians support risk based pricing. You know,
- 2:44Speaker 3: they support making people who are have properties in higher
- 2:48Speaker 3: risk places pay more because that is the you know,
- 2:51Speaker 3: that is the approach insurers have been taking, and there's
- 2:54Speaker 3: always some debate around that because you know, do you
- 2:58Speaker 3: really make people pay what their risk really is or
- 3:00Speaker 3: do you share some of those costs? You know, do
- 3:03Speaker 3: you have a bit of cross subsidization. So it sounds
- 3:06Speaker 3: like the politicians are aside with that. But you know,
- 3:10Speaker 3: this is all just commentary and a report that the
- 3:13Speaker 3: committee has published. We yet to see any government policy
- 3:17Speaker 3: or laws or anything like that that really gets into
- 3:20Speaker 3: the nitty gritty of how do we deal with this. Now,
- 3:23Speaker 3: just one more thing in this jack that the committee
- 3:26Speaker 3: members say that ultimately this is going to cost us money.
- 3:29Speaker 3: You know, if we're paying to relocate people. For example,
- 3:32Speaker 3: if there's another big storm, then we need to think
- 3:34Speaker 3: of ways of generating money to pay for that. Now,
- 3:37Speaker 3: to me, that sounds like there might be some sort
- 3:39Speaker 3: of future tax or levy to pay for it. So
- 3:42Speaker 3: that's the sort of gnally end that needs to be
- 3:45Speaker 3: worked through.
- 3:47Speaker 2: Perhaps less likely to be political consensus on that point today.
- 3:51Speaker 3: Well, exactly, exactly, all.
- 3:53Speaker 2: Right, hey, thank you. That is really interesting to training
- 3:55Speaker 2: the New Zealand heralds Wellington Business Editor. It's just gone
- 3:58Speaker 2: twenty past six on newstalk's 'b For.
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