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Breakfast Club Classic: Cedric The Entertainer Learned Never To Gamble With Michael Jordan, Talks 'The Neighborhood' + More · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 1: Don't get no ribs.
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  Speaker 2: You know, there we go morning.
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  Speaker 3: Everybody is stee j n V. Just hilarious. Charlamagne the
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  Speaker 3: guy we are the breakfast club law La Roses here
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  Speaker 3: as well. We got a special guest in the building,
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  Speaker 3: the legend entertainer.
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  Speaker 1: Back morning, Good morning morning.
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  Speaker 4: It was so good man, all this well, I can't complain.
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  Speaker 4: Great scene, jazz something everybody.
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  Speaker 1: Man.
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  Speaker 3: The first thing Cedric said when he walked in is
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  Speaker 3: you know, today's bring your kids to work there. He said,
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  Speaker 3: ye ain't bring your kids, kid.
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  Speaker 4: Black kids, hots and everything just tear up everything like no, no,
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  Speaker 4: it was. It was a bunch of little white kids
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  Speaker 4: on the elevator. I was like, okay. It was like
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  Speaker 4: they had on their little quarter zips and everybody was
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  Speaker 4: looking like they looking like little business people. I thought, okay,
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  Speaker 4: I was expecting it. You know, if you got like
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  Speaker 4: how kids, I got six, like I said, it would
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  Speaker 4: have been crowded.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so that coming I got.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, So that's that's that's American right there.
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  Speaker 2: That's so that's gonna change.
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  Speaker 1: Right now.
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  Speaker 2: Anyway.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, how you feeling though, brother, feeling good Man? Been
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  Speaker 4: in the city, chilling man, I've been uh you know,
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  Speaker 4: here doing Broadway. So I've been like here through the
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  Speaker 4: blizzards and and now the weather is starting to break
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  Speaker 4: a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: It changes like from day to day though, That's what
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  Speaker 1: me New York was like.
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  Speaker 4: One day you had your little nice little shirt, short
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  Speaker 4: sleeve on, and by the time that the night come, you.
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  Speaker 2: Need to yeah crazy, I.
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  Speaker 4: Mean scarfed up, barring people clothes. I'm like, let me
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  Speaker 4: get that jacket from me.
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  Speaker 3: So what got you back in the in the Broadway
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  Speaker 3: between all of you know, the comedy specials, you being
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  Speaker 3: on the road, the movies.
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  Speaker 1: What made you say?
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  Speaker 3: You know what, let me sit down for a minute
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  Speaker 3: and just focus on it.
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  Speaker 1: Was a good transition, man.
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  Speaker 4: You know, after doing the sitcom for eight seasons, so
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  Speaker 4: you know, we did the Neighborhood, it wrapped up and
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  Speaker 4: eight season. That's a blessing, man. But you know, I
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  Speaker 4: wanted to do something different. I didn't really want to
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  Speaker 4: be another TV dad or just kind of go straight
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  Speaker 4: to that. And the opportunity to do Broadway was gonna be,
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  Speaker 4: you know, just one of these places where you get
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  Speaker 4: to try your real acting chops. You on this stage
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  Speaker 4: once they once some lights come up, you out there
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  Speaker 4: you know this is this is you know, this is
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  Speaker 4: the dojo for for real actors. This is where they
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  Speaker 4: go to work and get stronger, and so, uh it
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  Speaker 4: was a blessing.
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  Speaker 1: Man. I ran into Debbie Allen last year.
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  Speaker 4: I come to see Othello and saw Denzel and knew
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  Speaker 4: he was doing all these August Wilson plays just kind
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  Speaker 4: of you know, spoken into existence, really manifested it. So
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  Speaker 4: uh then I saw Debbie and Debbie Allen and she
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  Speaker 4: called me, and uh, you know, it was just it
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  Speaker 4: lined up perfectly. The time, the timing from when we
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  Speaker 4: were wrapping the Neighborhood to when they was gonna start
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  Speaker 4: this was perfect. So it's been and it's been great. Man,
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  Speaker 4: it's been a great transition. I want you to come
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  Speaker 4: see it if anybody you know, no, no, this is real.
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  Speaker 4: This is August Wilson's Joe Turns coming Gone ground man.
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  Speaker 4: August Wilson is a great American African American play right,
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  Speaker 4: great play right period though. But he's got you know,
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  Speaker 4: shows like Fences and my Raimi's Black Bottom and all
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  Speaker 4: these Denzel's is has committed to do all of them
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  Speaker 4: as a film, so he'll we'll do the plays and
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  Speaker 4: then they'll make a movie out of it. And so, uh,
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  Speaker 4: that's been that's been a blessing. But no, it's it's
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  Speaker 4: it's serious work. And then you know Taraji's co starring
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  Speaker 4: and uh and we got Reuben Santiago Hudson and Joshua
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  Speaker 4: Boone and some dope people in here.
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  Speaker 5: It's bad when you think about this play right coming gone,
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  Speaker 5: did you feel pressure walking into that legacy or did
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  Speaker 5: you walk in like I'm stevy to entertained.
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  Speaker 2: I got it?
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  Speaker 4: No, man, I mean you know it's one of those
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  Speaker 4: things that you know, you you definitely don't want to take,
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  Speaker 4: you know, for granted, like, yeah, just your fame is
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  Speaker 4: gonna work in this space, right because this is like
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  Speaker 4: Sincere Broadway. You know, it's it's the big time you
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  Speaker 4: you on the floor seats of acting as far as
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  Speaker 4: what you know, what the world sees, right, and so
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  Speaker 4: you know you're.
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  Speaker 1: You got to come in there and hold it down.
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  Speaker 4: And you know that this other like Tony Award winning
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  Speaker 4: people into play, including you know, working for Debbie Allen.
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  Speaker 1: You know she ain't get ready to play no games.
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  Speaker 4: So it's just it was the one where I wanted
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  Speaker 4: to be prepared, and I came in after doing the Neighborhood.
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  Speaker 1: So I literally finished the Neighborhood on Tuesday.
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  Speaker 4: And had to be here Sunday, And so I felt
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  Speaker 4: like I was behind, Like you know, actors was kind
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  Speaker 4: of off book already and I'm still in there liking rehearsals.
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  Speaker 4: Like so, I was a little nervous for a while.
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  Speaker 4: But Debbie she got me. She was like, look, you good,
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  Speaker 4: just keep working, keep working. We got the time, Just
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  Speaker 4: keep working.
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  Speaker 1: You good.
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  Speaker 4: I was like, all right, cause it is intimidating. You
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  Speaker 4: do feel like, you know, all these you know, high
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  Speaker 4: level actors, like being in the scene with Denzel or somebody.
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  Speaker 4: You know, you'd be like, what am I gonna be
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  Speaker 4: able to really hold this down?
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  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? So but I trust it, though,
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  Speaker 1: you know, how.
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  Speaker 2: Do you get somebody to feel something serious?
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  Speaker 1: Though?
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  Speaker 5: As soon as you walk on, I might just laugh
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  Speaker 5: because it's said, you know what I'm saying, your disposition
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  Speaker 5: a deposition.
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  Speaker 1: Let me talk to my lawyer.
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  Speaker 2: Your disposition is just funny when you're walking around.
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  Speaker 4: It's so true though, man, And I think you know,
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  Speaker 4: it kind of happens too with the audience, like you
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  Speaker 4: know right away when they see me, it's this idea
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  Speaker 4: that and you know, and so that we actually encouraged it.
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  Speaker 4: So I don't play away from the fact that I
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  Speaker 4: make people laugh. But the character is this sincere guy,
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  Speaker 4: you know, Seth Holly. He owns a he owns a
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  Speaker 4: boarding house in nineteen eleven. So all the people are
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  Speaker 4: kind of the great migration, people coming up from the
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  Speaker 4: South coming north Way in Pittsburgh, and it's about people
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  Speaker 4: coming transitioning, trying to find their life, find their footing,
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  Speaker 4: find where they're going.
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  Speaker 1: And so I own this boarding house.
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  Speaker 4: So I just played them as like one of them
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  Speaker 4: og you know, uncle grandfathers, you know, and they funny
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  Speaker 4: even though they serious.
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  Speaker 1: So you so once you see.
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  Speaker 4: Me like like locking to the role, you'll understand the
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  Speaker 4: serious parts and then you'll get But I kind of
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  Speaker 4: did that in Barbershop too, Like it's moments in the
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  Speaker 4: in Barbershop movie where I'm really sincere and you you
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  Speaker 4: can believe it and then and then as opposed to
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  Speaker 4: like the moments where I'm just telling jokes. So this
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  Speaker 4: is more that it's more like the sincere of the character.
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  Speaker 4: But I have an opportunity to be myself and to
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  Speaker 4: let people laugh. And I didn't get to do that
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  Speaker 4: in the American Buffalo. The first time I did Broadway,
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  Speaker 4: it was all serious. It was David Mannon, and I
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  Speaker 4: remember my audience would want to laugh at things that
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  Speaker 4: weren't funny, but.
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  Speaker 1: They just needed that release because it was me. They
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  Speaker 1: was like, God, that's crazy. Like I didn't say nothing.
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  Speaker 3: How the schedule schedule you know, man, because I mean
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  Speaker 3: you're doing what eight shows?
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  Speaker 1: The eight shows a wig.
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  Speaker 4: You do one Tuesday, two Wednesday, one Thursday, one Friday,
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  Speaker 4: two Saturday, and one Sunday.
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  Speaker 1: So it's a it's a grind.
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  Speaker 4: You got one day off, so Monday Mondays is the
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  Speaker 4: only day off and you got to try to get
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  Speaker 4: it all in whatever.
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  Speaker 1: You know, your relaxation, your bills.
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  Speaker 4: Pay your doctor visits, everything got to happen on that Monday.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, you gotta rest.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, because I mean, when you doing these shows, you
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  Speaker 4: know you do have to project.
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  Speaker 1: They have you miked up a little bit.
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  Speaker 4: I think it's more, you know, more modern than it
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  Speaker 4: used to be the old way where you add like
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  Speaker 4: project everywhere, but you are micd up. But still it's
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  Speaker 4: important to let the back of that thea to hear
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  Speaker 4: your voice right, and so you can't really count on
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  Speaker 4: the microphone. So it is an opportunity. So we do
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  Speaker 4: all these little warm up exercises and stuff like that
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  Speaker 4: to kind of keep yourself uh where you know, where you.
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  Speaker 1: Let people hear you. I got I got a good voice.
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  Speaker 4: Though, I got like a nord natural kind of big,
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  Speaker 4: big voice, so that I just you know, I got
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  Speaker 4: that Saint Louis.
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  Speaker 1: So sometimes people don't understand what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 2: I guess you could have did radio. You could have
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  Speaker 2: been in a with Jerald verisody.
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  Speaker 1: Written now over. You don't have to say, you know.
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  Speaker 3: I was wondering with that being said, do you ever
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  Speaker 3: get nervous? Like, what's the craziest thing that ever happened
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  Speaker 3: while you were acting?
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  Speaker 1: Right?
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  Speaker 3: Did somebody forget their lines? Did you forget your come
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  Speaker 3: out too early? Did something the lights go out? What
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  Speaker 3: was the craziest thing that happened while.
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  Speaker 4: You Yeah, well, one one I come out. It's a
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  Speaker 4: scene where I drop a bucket. And this bucket it's
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  Speaker 4: got like got like pots and pants in it. Because
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  Speaker 4: that's what I do as a little side hustle. I
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  Speaker 4: make pots and pants and so it drops and bucket
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  Speaker 4: fall over and then it's like two levels of the
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  Speaker 4: stage and they started to roll where it would have
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  Speaker 4: fall into the audience, and so I'm like looking like
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  Speaker 4: other people talking about It's like I just go and
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  Speaker 4: get it because I see about to roll off the stage.
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  Speaker 4: So it's just one of these moments where need for
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  Speaker 4: me to scoop it all up. It's just making more noise.
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  Speaker 4: I turned around. I was like, and it just kind
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  Speaker 4: of walked off. But it was one of those moments
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  Speaker 4: where you have to decide, like it's live. So when
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  Speaker 4: things have happened, you just gotta kind of go with it.
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  Speaker 4: I definitely like early on and drop lines where you
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  Speaker 4: just you like, I I don't know where I am
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  Speaker 4: because there's so many words like August Wilson right with
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  Speaker 4: a lot of words and these speeches and it's kind
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  Speaker 4: of like you know, nineteen eleven vernaculars, so you gotta
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  Speaker 4: kind of like say it a certain way.
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  Speaker 1: And then but it's it is.
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  Speaker 4: It's one of those things that once you get to
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  Speaker 4: doing it, and like all of us, we learn to
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  Speaker 4: trust each other. It's almost like with like a trapeze family, right,
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  Speaker 4: like you gotta you gotta know like the other person
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  Speaker 4: when I let go, like this your job, you catch
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  Speaker 4: me like So that's and that's know what happens we
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  Speaker 4: be out there, Like if you see somebody losing it
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  Speaker 4: and you can tell they off, you just go and
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  Speaker 4: catch them, just run up and take them to the
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  Speaker 4: next thing and like let it go, because the audience
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  Speaker 4: don't really know unless they know, you know, like it's
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  Speaker 4: people that's super theater folks, and they're gonna be like,
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  Speaker 4: you know, you guys drop the line and seem.
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  Speaker 1: To you hope not, but it is.
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  Speaker 4: It is folks like that that are very like super
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  Speaker 4: Broadway and they they're coming there for that.
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  Speaker 1: So you know, we don't we don't want to, you know,
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  Speaker 1: but we we we.
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  Speaker 4: Actually Debbie works are so hard that it's not like
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  Speaker 4: we we do that a lot. It just happens, you know,
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  Speaker 4: because your brain is just gonna slip sometimes out there.
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  Speaker 4: You know, it's every night sometimes you do two shows.
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  Speaker 4: That's when it really happened when you do two shows,
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  Speaker 4: because you feel just to know this, like even when
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  Speaker 4: you perform like stand up on a multiple show night.
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  Speaker 4: You know, like I said this joke already you like,
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  Speaker 4: so you'll be out there.
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  Speaker 1: Thinking like.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, yeah, you be looking around like like yeah,
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  Speaker 4: you say that's it twice?
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  Speaker 1: Is there?
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  Speaker 4: No, that's the that's the only thing you know that
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  Speaker 4: the playwright, you know, these guys like that's who this
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  Speaker 4: play is called August Wilson's Joe Turner's coming on. So
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  Speaker 4: it is he the top of the food chain on here.
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  Speaker 4: So you gotta do you gotta do the words, and
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  Speaker 4: that's what's important.
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  Speaker 1: And so I mean there are.
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  Speaker 4: You know, kid like it's times where you may be
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  Speaker 4: a variation where it's just come out your head the
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  Speaker 4: way you would say it, but you still need to
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  Speaker 4: be saying the context for the most part. Yeah, you
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  Speaker 4: don't get to just kind of take take a full
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  Speaker 4: left turn and just like hit him with the new
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  Speaker 4: joke that's in your head, Like I got I got some.
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  Speaker 1: Bars for this.
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  Speaker 6: I would say, people understand you keep saying August Wilson.
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  Speaker 6: I know, people understand how like major all Wilson is
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  Speaker 6: Like a certain group of people. When I went to
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  Speaker 6: at Dell State, it hit anything theatrical, they focused on
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  Speaker 6: August Wilson, Like it's kind of like Shakespeare, but it's
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  Speaker 6: our version of Shakespeare like people lean so heavily in
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  Speaker 6: on August Wilson.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's got like, uh, it's eleven or ten plays
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  Speaker 4: for sure in the series, and I believe it's eleven
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  Speaker 4: of these all just super I mean, very important plays.
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  Speaker 4: They kind of tell the story of us, like you know,
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  Speaker 4: history from slavery and then these different stages of our culture,
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  Speaker 4: Like Joe Turner Coming Gone, is this stage when slavery
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  Speaker 4: was over and people are looking and trying to find
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  Speaker 4: who they are, and they were looking for their families
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  Speaker 4: because people have been separated, and yet you know, in
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  Speaker 4: the South they would still keep people.
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  Speaker 1: And it's one character Loomis.
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  Speaker 4: His character has been captured and he was trapped for
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  Speaker 4: seven years and then he gets out and he's looking
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  Speaker 4: for his wife and he comes and stays that boarding house.
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  Speaker 4: And so he's a guy that's on the journey to
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  Speaker 4: find like his life and his footing and all this stuff.
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  Speaker 4: And yet you know, I've never been a slave, my character,
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  Speaker 4: so I'm kind of arrogant and a little bit you know,
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  Speaker 4: a little bit of such a much in a way,
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  Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: But but all of.
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  Speaker 4: It you learn from everybody else's journey as it goes along.
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  Speaker 1: So this was really special about it.
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  Speaker 4: And now I think that's what makes his writing as
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  Speaker 4: far as the stories of African Americans, really resonate with
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  Speaker 4: us because it's spiritual, it's funny, it's like it definitely
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  Speaker 4: is like it's written heavy, but because it's us, like
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  Speaker 4: culturally black people in there talking to us and you
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  Speaker 4: know they laughing, it's just like, yeah, it's the same
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  Speaker 4: quality of going to any black film where you you know,
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  Speaker 4: where we people sitting there, and because it's theater, it
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  Speaker 4: feel like we in your living room, like you sitting
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  Speaker 4: in that audience.
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  Speaker 1: Like you don't do that? Why you going to that? Girl?
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  Speaker 1: You know you hear that all the time, Like you
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  Speaker 1: like y'all black? Ya black?
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  Speaker 4: I said, hell yeahbec Well, y'all suppost be talking to
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  Speaker 4: us like this. But but it's all right. You know,
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  Speaker 4: we we learned to embrace all of that. That's the
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  Speaker 4: energy that that's uh, that feels like love and the
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  Speaker 4: love that you want to get, you know, that celebration
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  Speaker 4: of who we.
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  Speaker 2: Are what the Broadway expose about.
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  Speaker 5: I guess your craft and your skill set that TV
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  Speaker 5: and stand up never did.
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  Speaker 4: Man you know, I think it's that that idea that
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  Speaker 4: of connection, right, it's something that you have to have
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  Speaker 4: as a stand up where you connect to an audience.
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  Speaker 4: But I think the idea of being able to do
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  Speaker 4: the combination because then you know, as an actor, you
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  Speaker 4: you get to stop and start over and go, you know,
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  Speaker 4: and look look for that that feeling that you want
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  Speaker 4: or you didn't say the words quite the way you
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  Speaker 4: wanted to land, you know, a scene. But I think here,
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  Speaker 4: you know, it is this this ability to take what
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  Speaker 4: isn't innately you power, like like this ability to connect
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  Speaker 4: with people, this ability to be somebody that you recognize
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  Speaker 4: and then turn it on and then and go out
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  Speaker 4: there and be it right, you know, right at the moment.
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  Speaker 4: And I think that's what I try to do because
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  Speaker 4: my character starts off the plate, so I have to
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  Speaker 4: bring you into this play like right away, right, you know,
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  Speaker 4: And I think I look at that as my job,
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  Speaker 4: like the job as well somebody started then you know,
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  Speaker 4: that's pretty much how it is. Right Like you're gonna say,
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  Speaker 4: a man, you the first one out here. You got
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  Speaker 4: to make it happen, and you know, and it's it's
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  Speaker 4: Taraji and I but you know, we're on there and
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  Speaker 4: we're kind of setting up the pace and then it
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  Speaker 4: just goes and so you know it's important that I
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  Speaker 4: think that I had to learn to take trust what
• 15:43
  Speaker 4: I do, you know, as a stand up, like the
• 15:47
  Speaker 4: ability to walk out there on your own, which is
• 15:49
  Speaker 4: the craziest sport of them all. I kind of feel
• 15:51
  Speaker 4: like stand up is like you you don't have no support,
• 15:54
  Speaker 4: you know, can't get a drum or some or none
• 15:56
  Speaker 4: of that.
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: Like that's the hardest thing to do.
• 15:58
  Speaker 5: Yeah, being a standup going up there by yourself talking
• 16:01
  Speaker 5: to hundreds thousands people.
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: Trying to make them laugh. Yeah, that's the expectation to laugh.
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: I think that's the hardest thing to do.
• 16:08
  Speaker 3: I think it's I think it's Broadway because see, at
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: least staying up comedian and you practice you on your own,
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: But Broadway you got to play off of what somebody
• 16:15
  Speaker 3: else does. What y'all got line, But if they mess
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: up their lines or they forget their lines, so you
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: forget your line. See jokes, you practice that.
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: Both of them.
• 16:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but I mean, but but stand up, stand up
• 16:27
  Speaker 4: to me is still a little bit more is I
• 16:30
  Speaker 4: kind of agree, because you just don't have no balance,
• 16:32
  Speaker 4: like say in a in a in a Broadway play,
• 16:34
  Speaker 4: if you do mess up and you've been you've been rehearsing,
• 16:38
  Speaker 4: somebody else can pick it up for you. It's almost
• 16:40
  Speaker 4: like in a band, right, like if you drop all,
• 16:43
  Speaker 4: you forget the lyrics, they just start playing. You know,
• 16:46
  Speaker 4: you know, like I mean, you used to go to
• 16:48
  Speaker 4: to see like new edition them boy around, He'll just
• 16:51
  Speaker 4: tell you the thing.
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: For thirty five minutes, he was saying, you, man, I'm here.
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: I paid money. You should be right now.
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: Be like, man, y'all go ahead.
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: Man, But I figured with comedians, I figured there was
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: for both of y'all. I figured there's this one joke
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: y'all got in the cut just in case y'all forget
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: y'all get a brain fart or brain freeze and be
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: like I forgot where I was. That y'all could just
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: go back to that. Y'all don't have that.
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: I mean, man, Sometimes it's that's tough, though, Like if
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: you lose your balance something on stage, sometimes you know
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: it is a.
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: It could take a minute to turn.
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: It back on right, just to kind of find your
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: way back to it because a lot of it is
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: in the setup you and like wrote a joke and
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: you did the set up, and then you forgot, like
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: you forgot where you're at, and you're like, oh, man, man,
• 17:44
  Speaker 4: I blew the setup. I kind of blew the joke
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: because I blew the setup. Like now, I don't know
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: if I can go back and reset it up. I'll try,
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. But most of the time
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: you have to move on, maybe mad. You be like, man,
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: I ain't.
• 17:57
  Speaker 7: Get to do this joke last night, and that's one
• 17:58
  Speaker 7: that you really wanted to do.
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: I hate when my gang can tell me that too,
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: that you know, you'll come up to be like you
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: need to do so and so tonight you be like, man,
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: that audience would have killed you know you like man,
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: you hate when you do that like this, But that
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: is that, that's that free willing spirit of being a
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: stand up though up there, because you a lot of
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: times you are you got, you got your routine, but
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: then you you just kind of you have to go
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: at sometimes you just be out there.
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: Did anybody doubt that you could do the role?
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: No?
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: You know, no, no, no, not right away. I think
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: that was really great. I had great confidence. Debbie was
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: the main person that really need to be behind me.
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: I think that you know, probably some of the other
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: actors may be you know, and not saying I don't know,
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: I didn't know them personally, but at the time, but
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: I think that, you know, people assume that you are
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: just gonna come in and not take it serious and
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: like kind of take your your use your fame or whatever,
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: your popularity and just kind of come in and and
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: not respect the words like because that's that's the thing
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: about brad Way kind of to everych point is that
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: it is a sincere space.
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: Even though the play can be fun, the space is real.
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: And I just and Don Chito doing the play up
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: here too, and we went to lunch before and you know,
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: he considered a serious actor, so we just had you know,
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: at dinner, just was talking about it.
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: But he was like, man, you know, you are natural,
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: like trust it.
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: Don't don't get all in your head about you gotta
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: be some other thing. You know, you be yourself and
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: it'll show up and then it'll you will make the
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: character real. And that's what That's what I really embrace
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: more than anything.
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: Proof.
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah, with with iOS, which is dope, that's dope too.
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: We went to go see that I wanted.
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: I wanted to ask you another one.
• 19:44
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I want to say, like the play, right, the
• 19:45
  Speaker 5: play explores a bunch of differ stuff.
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 19:47
  Speaker 5: He talks about finding your trauma, finding yourself after trauma.
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: It talks about identity freedom.
• 19:51
  Speaker 5: What part of that personally hit you?
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: Man?
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: You know, I think it is the the eye idea
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: of me is like continued discovery, Like what I had
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: to What I realize is that when I was making
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: this choice, that I wasn't comfortable or really still happy
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: with being like successful my whole life. Right, Like if
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: I say, well, man, I've been successful for a long time.
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: I had a lot of TV shows and all these things.
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: It was an emptiness that needed that something else needed
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: to happen, And that happens in the play where you
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: like where some where you're looking for something else and
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: this choice to kind of almost you know, because Broadway
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: is not it's big time, but it's lower money, right, Like,
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: so you make a choice, Like you make a choice
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: to come in and do this for six women. I've
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: been here since February and we run till July. So
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: this is a long time of like a right, I'm
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: just gonna butt and then you work a lot.
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: You work different.
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: You work every day, eight shows a week. It's totally different.
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: Like you said, you might do a movie. You got
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: three days on you come in, do your little scenes
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: and leave, and you know, you got a trailer and suv.
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: Outside and it's shiny.
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: You know, this ain't that shiny, Like you know, I
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: got to get my own lunch and you know, it's
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: just that kind of thing. Yeah, no, it's it's it's
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: broad when you do your own makeup, it's everything. Everything
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: is like this is what you do, Like this is
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: not you know, but they you know, they make it
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: comfortable for you.
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: But it's not.
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: It's not the not the whole glam squad and all
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: the big old shiny stuff that you get when you
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: do movies.
• 21:36
  Speaker 6: So it's don't bring your own squad with you because
• 21:38
  Speaker 6: I know some people will bring their own people.
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah no, not with that for that money. Do your guy,
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: I brought my wife.
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: I gotta rent apartment I got, you know, my kids
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: will pop up.
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: But you know, like I'll bring my team in for
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: certain things.
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: But you know, like like mainly like like big press
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: runs and stuff like that.
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: But you know, like just on a daily basis. Now
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: that's every day, every day, you know, And I mean
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: I have to get them a place to live, they
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: have to have travel.
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: I'm like, is it true that that Michael Jordan made
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: you quick gambling?
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: I got no. I just lost money playing with him
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: playing golf one time. You know, But this is mj Like,
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: you know, he'll gamble on anything. So I'm just trying to,
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: you know, be be a I'm trying to be in
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: the game, you know, just play And I.
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: Bet a thousand dollars a hole and lost every hole.
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: So you lost every hole every goddamn.
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: That's a lesson learned.
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: And he wouldn't his money. He wanted his money because
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: a billionaire.
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: So you know, no, when you gamble, you got to pay.
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: That ain't playing like that.
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: You be like, like, what do you like what you pause?
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: Man's not that type of hole.
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: Cut it out that you'd be like out a thousand
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: dollars every hole.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well you be thinking you're gonna win one of them.
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: You know, do you play golf.
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: You didn't win nothing, but you gotta know you gotta
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: actuate wage.
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: But what you know, you try to get favors you like, hey,
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: give me four strokes?
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: Is who give me three times? Please? That was just man,
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: this is gone.
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: Man. Man, you realize how now you trip out? How
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: golfs down? Actually, like wow, man, stick.
• 23:29
  Speaker 8: Out the bag. Swich to me the whole way. I
• 23:37
  Speaker 8: keep losing my balls.
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: Black a lot, there's a lot.
• 23:41
  Speaker 8: I didn't notice that.
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: Everybody playing golf like Buddy a lot.
• 23:52
  Speaker 8: Man.
• 23:52
  Speaker 5: You know, it's funny because you talk about the money
• 23:55
  Speaker 5: you're not making with Broadway. But I don't know if
• 23:58
  Speaker 5: we understand you just did with The Neighborhood No. One
• 24:03
  Speaker 5: hundred and fifty six episodes. I think the last episode
• 24:06
  Speaker 5: is next month, right.
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, the last episodes will come on next month. Yeah,
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: and I think the last few and uh man, it
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: was that's that's a blessing because you know, like I did.
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: We did five.
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: Seasons on Steve Harvey, five seasons on soul Man, and
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: then eight on on on on a Neighborhood.
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: Respect respect all of those sitcoms. It is a little different.
• 24:29
  Speaker 5: No, this is no Yeah, syndication forever, and it's one
• 24:35
  Speaker 5: of those things that you know, we had a great
• 24:38
  Speaker 5: time during the show.
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: I mean, you know, of course it's to Sheena Arnold legendary,
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: every show she been on, being Crazy, Max greenfelt amazing,
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: Beth Bear, the whole cast was just so and we
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: enjoyed each other so much. Man, So it was one
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: of those shows you really didn't want to see come
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: to an end, but you know, you you also get
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: it too, like it just sometimes it's just like all right, cool.
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: We but we felt like we could have told more
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: stories forever, Like, you know, I had a great writing staff.
• 25:04
  Speaker 6: I thought there was supposed to be a plan spin off.
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: No, we had two that didn't work. We did.
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: We spent off with We spent off with Tracy Morgan.
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: We had to show Crutch that was gonna be on
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: Paramount Plus. We shot eight of those with Tracy and
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: as the New York version of my character, like it
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: was dope with his adult kids moved back home, and
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: then we had we shot on with the boys, my
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: two sons where they had their own life, and they
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: decided not to go forward with it. And so it
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: was one of those things that we did, like you know,
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: really economically, you know, it was like trying to do
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: something for a budget because it was during that time
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: where CBS was up for sale and it was all
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: that you know, it was lawsuits and the president was
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: suing them. It was crazy, man. So you know, they
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: just didn't They were really nervous about moving forward on
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: anything like that, you know, where it was going to
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: cost them money. So so it was one of them
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: kind of situations where the politics of it, I feel.
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: Like hurt that. But this show should have had the.
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: Spin off, Like when you think about a show that's
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: that successful in eight years, they should have.
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: It should have been at least another.
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: Show that ran for a while and we tried a
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: couple of different versions but it never worked. So like, yeah,
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: and doing something after Young Sheldon, like you know, so uh,
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: it's a couple of them that that kind of spent
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: like that. But you know, it's been The execs over
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: on the CBS side been great, man. We've been having
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: you know, we've been talking trying to figure out something
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: else to do.
• 26:32
  Speaker 5: So you know, I want to ask you, like, you're
• 26:34
  Speaker 5: a comedian, right, and there's certain things I know comedians
• 26:36
  Speaker 5: want to check off their list.
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: Having a hit sitcom is one of them.
• 26:39
  Speaker 5: Yeah, man, when you look at the neighborhood, you say yourself,
• 26:42
  Speaker 5: you say to yourself, man.
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: I did that, oh for sure, Man, definitely, and you know,
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: and we was able to executive produce it and being
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: in you know, and be in control, like I was
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: able to like be in control of the show, like
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: I can say what happened and what didn't go and
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: all these kind of things, and you know, a part
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: of casting and all that. So I definitely feel like,
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: you know, we checked that box, you know, and and
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: and really feel great about the show, like how it
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: represents you know, definitely a lot of aunties and you know,
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: but I mean it's captured more and more because it's like,
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: what's that traditional television it'll get it don't get quite
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: like I didn't feel it like when it was on,
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: like it get that love like back say, with Fresh
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: Prints and everything.
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: These were the only shows you watch.
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: But now we kind of got like you know, we
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: got like cable and streaming and all these things that
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: the neighborhood felt like, man, it's popular, but it didn't
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: feel like when you walk out, you get that crazy love.
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: But now in syndication it is, it's crazy because I
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: did when I did the view, Yes, the other day,
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: they mentioned the neighborhood and the crowd screamed and just
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: caught me off guard because like you know, when I
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: walk around it, you know, it's it's a degree of like,
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: you know, everybody been knowing me for their whole life,
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: Like it's someday I realized, like, man, I've been around
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: a long time. But it's that that idea of the
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: show being so popular that it's it's a different kind
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: of a you know, I guess that ear that you
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: hear when people are like, oh man, no, that's one
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: of my favorite shows.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: I like that. So I'm glad that, you know, that.
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: Syndication kind of got into more people's homes because I
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: think people just didn't on a regular basis watch you know,
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: like your appointment TV like we used to do with
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: The Cosby Show and stuff like that.
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: When you talked about you talked about checking things off
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: your list, right, is there anything else that you want
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: to check off your list that you haven't done yet
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: as of yet?
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: I don't know, man, you know, I still I still
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: kind of want to do like you know, like like
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: like kind of like a like a one hour kind
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: of you know, dramedy kind of thing.
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: I love I love like that feel of I ain't
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: really land there, like in that insecure space. I mean,
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: I know that was thirty minutes, but I like that
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: more things that feel authentic, like real real or or
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: you know, cool detective. I don't know something something that's
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: but that combination that's you know where you know he
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: humorous but he's funny and it's dramatic and it's dope storytelling.
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: So we looking at all those kinds of spaces. I
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: directed a few episodes of The Neighborhood directed. I don't
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: really I like directing, but I don't, you know, so
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: I checked that box too, because it's one where that's
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: the that's a triple job.
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: People don't know.
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: When you direct, you got to be there before the
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: project start, you do the project, and then you there
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: after the project. So it's not like when you act,
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: you go, once you do your job, you out, you
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: like deuce it. So I was like, I don't know
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: if I really want to love directing because it's that
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: it's it's like all the way with the project. It
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: actually can last a whole year on one project you're like,
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: I'm tired.
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: Of this one.
• 29:45
  Speaker 7: So that's the most difficulting because I actually heard Martin
• 29:47
  Speaker 7: talking about that too, within line between love and hate,
• 29:49
  Speaker 7: like yeah, to direct, and he was in it and
• 29:52
  Speaker 7: writing and then producing. Then you know, when everybody else
• 29:54
  Speaker 7: go home, he can't. He got to be So that
• 29:56
  Speaker 7: is one of the hardest jobs.
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, direct the thing is the one where you
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: you gotta have the most commitment. And I and I
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: realized that too once I've done a few movies that
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: they actually it is talent, right, Like you know a
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: lot of times the director seems like this other person,
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: but a talented director will make the difference. So you'll know,
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: you gotta you gotta always take that in, you know. Now,
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: that's a question I asked. That's why I haven't done
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: a lot of movies because I always want to know,
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: like who directed now, because you don't get you don't
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: get to you don't get a lot of missus as
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: black people. Like if you miss then people just feel
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: like you blew it, like you know what I'm saying.
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: And then and then oftentimes, unless the director is already famous,
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: then the the success of the movie gonna land on
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: the stars, the success or the failure.
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: But if the director famous, then they might be in
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: it as well. But if they're not, then it's like,
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: say the movie wasn't yeh bomb, You'd be like, well
• 30:53
  Speaker 4: nah this dude, yeah.
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: Two days.
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: So but yeah, that's the So that's the thing I
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: think I desire, you know, few things now that other
• 31:08
  Speaker 4: than just kind of looking for like cool roles to
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: take my audience on different journeys.
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: That's all I look for.
• 31:14
  Speaker 6: Now when you're making your next project, right, Like, what's
• 31:16
  Speaker 6: the happy medium between having big name casts and the money?
• 31:19
  Speaker 6: Because when they announced the Neighborhood deadline said that it
• 31:22
  Speaker 6: was an issue of cost because of the big name cast.
• 31:24
  Speaker 6: But how do you You're going to have big name
• 31:27
  Speaker 6: people because of your relationships? Right, So where do you
• 31:30
  Speaker 6: fall in that?
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: Well? I mean you know that.
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: I mean you realize it's even more so now and
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: it's very interesting because you know, you got like streaming,
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: you got micro dramas, you got all these things where
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: people definitely trying to cut the costs and you have
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: to decide on that. I mean, it's some super talented
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: people out here, so a lot of times, you know,
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: like after being on the Neighborhood for eight seasons, I
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: also know that you can cast without having to have
• 31:53
  Speaker 4: big names anymore. It's just talented people out here that's
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: like they could do the job right. But it's important
• 31:59
  Speaker 4: to have somebody that you can market, Like, somebody got
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: to be famous enough to come on the Breakfast Club, right,
• 32:04
  Speaker 4: otherwise you can't promote it right if they don't, you know,
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: so if you if that person don't have enough of
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: a you know, of energy to come to be booked
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: on shows, then you just can't get it out there.
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: So that's the important part. So that's where you balance it.
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: You know, when you're looking at that budget, you kind
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: of look like, all right, cool, I need I need
• 32:23
  Speaker 4: at least one or two other people that can be
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: known to go out there, and then I can I
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: can cast all around that.
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: So uh, I think that's the biggest thing.
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: And then you know, after eight seasons, that's where everybody
• 32:36
  Speaker 4: needed raisers. And that's when you knew like, all right,
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: this show getting ready to be this show to be
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: done because going on the Friends Days, right when you know,
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: all right, everybody getting a million dollars an episode, they're like, no,
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: we don't do that no more. So that kind of
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: like became very clear that that's that's what's gonna happen here.
• 32:53
  Speaker 5: That's how you know TV in a bad space when
• 32:55
  Speaker 5: they show can be performing viewership one. Yeah, but if
• 32:59
  Speaker 5: it costs too much, we can't afford to pay y'all
• 33:01
  Speaker 5: no more, no, no.
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: No, the cut it down.
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: And that's you know, and and I mean it becomes
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: the case, right and you realize that because you want
• 33:11
  Speaker 4: everybody to eat with you, like you know, and that
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: because they will be willing to pay me, you know,
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: like like, well, say you know you're gonna come do
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: another season. I'm like, well, but y'all got to take
• 33:20
  Speaker 4: care of everybody else. And then that that's literally what happened.
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: It was like I was like because I had gotten
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: a couple of different big.
• 33:30
  Speaker 4: Raises throughout the whole time, so and I was like, well,
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: I'm not getting ready to bet that guy, Like well
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: I'm just the only one eating, you know, I'm not
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: gonna do that. That ain't even cool, Like, you know,
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: everybody need to, you know, break people off. And then
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: but when you look at that number and what people want.
• 33:44
  Speaker 5: It, and you know, like and what if they just
• 33:48
  Speaker 5: moved to a more affordable neighborhood, man.
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: Nobody.
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: Now we all the Hulu somewhere I don't know, Like no,
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: I don't know, man, uh no, it was one of
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: those things like you know, I don't know if you
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: CBS came forord you then I don't know you pretty
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: much just it man.
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: I mean Netflix, they the only ones going.
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: You'll think about getting together, but like, you know what,
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: let's let's just cut out our our fee a little
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: bit so we can stay on television. It brings so
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: much more than just that.
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: All of those talks. But I mean, it really ain't
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: just the actors though.
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: Then, you know, the writers, everybody like this a whole,
• 34:31
  Speaker 4: you know, everybody, all the union people, everybody can get
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: it eight seasons they all won't they so that number
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: just keep climbing. So the actors all agreed. We you know,
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: we definitely wanted to just keep doing it. So we
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: was all like, come on, we can do it. Were good,
• 34:46
  Speaker 4: everybody good with where we're at, Like let's do this right.
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: So but that didn't really work for them.
• 34:52
  Speaker 5: So it's you really diversifying your portfolio. I saw you
• 34:55
  Speaker 5: and Anthony Anderson y'all got the barbecue spot.
• 34:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, AC Barbecues been growing in It's been
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: four years now, so yeah, we got the we got
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: the restaurant in la We got a cookbook coming out
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: in May, uh and then we got the sauces in
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: the rubs everywhere all the stores and the Krogers and
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: Amazon and all that kind of stuff, and so, h man,
• 35:18
  Speaker 4: it's been it's been fun. We started that as a little,
• 35:20
  Speaker 4: you know, a little one of those kind of pet projects,
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: like you know, like when we got that from uh,
• 35:25
  Speaker 4: George Clean and when they started casting.
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: Egos, like the friends just got together.
• 35:29
  Speaker 4: Me and Aunt used to be you know, on our
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: golf trips, grilling and hanging out, and so we came
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: up with the idea and the concept was working.
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: Man.
• 35:37
  Speaker 4: We loved the idea of barbecue, loved the fact that
• 35:40
  Speaker 4: it was cultural and it was different.
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: Like so we like we win.
• 35:43
  Speaker 4: You know, I'm from Saint Louis and from Compton, and
• 35:47
  Speaker 4: but we went to South Carolina, we went to Memphis,
• 35:51
  Speaker 4: we went to Texas, we got all the different We
• 35:54
  Speaker 4: wanted to honor what we decided. We just wanted to
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: honor the idea of that that cookout energy. And so
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: it wasn't about our particular sauce. It's all about the
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: culture of barbecue. And so that's what the book about,
• 36:05
  Speaker 4: the husky and a handsome god, the grilling that's coming out.
• 36:08
  Speaker 4: So that's gonna be dope, man. And so that's uh
• 36:11
  Speaker 4: that that's been good. We're just gonna keep building it,
• 36:14
  Speaker 4: keep growing it. That's a you know, that's one of
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: those things that business is hard. You recognize, like, you know,
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: these things you wish they just were successful overnight, but
• 36:23
  Speaker 4: you had to really grind on them because the restaurant
• 36:25
  Speaker 4: business is tough right now too. So but we end
• 36:28
  Speaker 4: up saying we got a sexy little spot, but we
• 36:30
  Speaker 4: we're gonna have to move out of there because we
• 36:32
  Speaker 4: don't have uh, we can't we can't do uber eats
• 36:37
  Speaker 4: and stuff because we in the mall because the drivers
• 36:40
  Speaker 4: can't park right. So it's like we realized, like, man,
• 36:43
  Speaker 4: we missing out on a lot of them little yeahs.
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: So so it's that kind of thing. So we just
• 36:48
  Speaker 4: but but it's sexy and people love it. We've been
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: having a great time with it.
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: So it is common to really have good barbecue.
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: Man.
• 36:53
  Speaker 5: Because you're from Saint Louis, I'm from Stacking Line. I've
• 36:55
  Speaker 5: been seeing some videos. There's this spot in commed they
• 36:57
  Speaker 5: called Kitchen's corner.
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: That's more around this.
• 37:00
  Speaker 4: Blue thatfter man, the boys cold man, it's a couple
• 37:05
  Speaker 4: of it's a it's a it's a it's a couple
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: of different barbecue places out there. But my man Bloodsoe,
• 37:11
  Speaker 4: who was one of our big he was one of
• 37:14
  Speaker 4: our big advisors and let us on.
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: He started Bloodso's. They got a big, big barbecue brand.
• 37:21
  Speaker 4: It's a couple of guys over there, man, uh they
• 37:24
  Speaker 4: be yeah, they get down and a lot of those
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: you know, because Compton is one of those uh one
• 37:29
  Speaker 4: of those places where people migrated from right, so people
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: from everywhere right and these family his his his family
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: from Arkansas.
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: So his and his dad used to do the barbecueing.
• 37:39
  Speaker 4: And then then he like the he the real chef
• 37:41
  Speaker 4: with us, like ain't cooked more than anything. I'm gonna
• 37:44
  Speaker 4: taste you know. Okay, I mean I can.
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: Get down, but but I'm more like.
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: We could use some a little correct power. Man.
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: Well the kitchen corner look at man.
• 38:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah, oh yeah that's the other Yeah, yeah, yeah, these
• 38:06
  Speaker 4: guys it's dope right here.
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: I'm going I need to go to comment like that.
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah you see the Paul.
• 38:15
  Speaker 9: That that you have on is that who said is that?
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: This was not no? This is like this is the
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: status and this game you know, this is.
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: From the the little Cowboy era that was rocking.
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: I like that. I see you got the three mics
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: on the side, but I did.
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I'll find the little pins.
• 38:40
  Speaker 4: You eded that added that kind of stuff like that.
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: But yeah, I still but I do have I do
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: my hat. I do have my hat brand. I don't
• 38:47
  Speaker 4: I have the who said that. I got the egg
• 38:49
  Speaker 4: and butters, which are a little more high quality hats
• 38:52
  Speaker 4: to now, like, so I do those two.
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you did it right, man, Oh career, you just
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: that you've done everything.
• 38:59
  Speaker 4: The yeah, man, just keep it simple and you know,
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: I really feel blessed by that part of it.
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: Man.
• 39:05
  Speaker 4: They just really just kind of stay steady, stay grinding,
• 39:09
  Speaker 4: you know, stay humble, and and just go get it.
• 39:12
  Speaker 4: Like I don't even worry about like the ups and
• 39:14
  Speaker 4: downs of it, you know, because you'll have moments in
• 39:17
  Speaker 4: your career where you up, you know, and it's super
• 39:19
  Speaker 4: up but then you know. But but in general, I
• 39:22
  Speaker 4: like to entertain people, and I like, you know, so
• 39:25
  Speaker 4: I was looking out there, I was like, man, I
• 39:27
  Speaker 4: got a book too, and I was looking at it
• 39:28
  Speaker 4: because y'all got all everybody's books. I was like, I
• 39:30
  Speaker 4: ain't come up here for my book though I think
• 39:32
  Speaker 4: it was like a year ago. I don't think I
• 39:33
  Speaker 4: came to promote my book. So I was like, man,
• 39:35
  Speaker 4: I need to get my book of y'all library. Man,
• 39:37
  Speaker 4: Like it was everybody's book was out there. But you know,
• 39:40
  Speaker 4: like all the things you get to do in this
• 39:43
  Speaker 4: life and his career has been been super blessed man.
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: So I like it.
• 39:47
  Speaker 4: I like to you know, I like that spirit of
• 39:49
  Speaker 4: that being. You know we talking about this one time
• 39:51
  Speaker 4: we was together. I like this spirit of.
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: Just you know, you get a little more controversial than
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: I am, but it genuine like good people.
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: Let me not put myself like.
• 40:07
  Speaker 4: Where you where you do it, like just like events
• 40:10
  Speaker 4: and stuff, solid dude man, like you know, but then
• 40:14
  Speaker 4: you realize, like you look online like people be mad
• 40:16
  Speaker 4: at him.
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: Man, like that, what do you do? I was like, okay, yeah,
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: it ain't in the library.
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: I love seeing comedians. I see like more and more
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: comedians working with each other, work work, work, we get
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: up there.
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: I've seen the recently.
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: I was I love to see comedians working with each other.
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: I see.
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: I feel like there's a shift where at one time
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: it was like everybody was going at each other, but
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: now I see more and more comedians getting together going
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: out on the road. Do you notice that as well?
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, man, I mean I really like that too. Man.
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: It's because where I come from, that's where really what
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: it was like we all like just kind of rock together.
• 40:59
  Speaker 4: Of course, you know, Kings of Comedy is one of
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: the you know, the more kind of famous versions of that.
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: But but even like right after Death Jail, when Death
• 41:07
  Speaker 4: Jail first blew, that's how.
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: We went out and got bigger.
• 41:11
  Speaker 4: Like everybody was on these big tours and you could
• 41:13
  Speaker 4: mix and match and people. And I did it with
• 41:16
  Speaker 4: Comic View when I like, after I host the Comic View,
• 41:18
  Speaker 4: we used to do a tour, put everybody out.
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: There and we just go and have fun.
• 41:22
  Speaker 4: And you you, and it's great to see like comics
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: just out there working together and having a good time
• 41:27
  Speaker 4: and so.
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: And it's a lot of like a lot of love
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: in general.
• 41:33
  Speaker 4: Like you know, you have you have one or two
• 41:35
  Speaker 4: like you know, gunfights in the in the in the
• 41:37
  Speaker 4: comedy business or whatever. But I don't even think they
• 41:40
  Speaker 4: be you know, it's just it's just the sign of
• 41:43
  Speaker 4: the times. I think, you know where people just be
• 41:45
  Speaker 4: want clicks and they just say wild stuff and then
• 41:49
  Speaker 4: you know, you see somebody in person.
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: It's not Kings of Comedy too, or they do a
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: Kings of Comedy? Can you do a Kings of Comedy?
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: Two?
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: We are we are talking about it.
• 42:01
  Speaker 4: We you know, you know it's it's you know, I
• 42:04
  Speaker 4: talked to Steve and d L the other day.
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: We all we had to.
• 42:07
  Speaker 4: Offer and so now we're just trying to figure out
• 42:09
  Speaker 4: if that's gonna make sense and why, you know, how,
• 42:12
  Speaker 4: why how and why we do it right now?
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: Uh?
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: You know?
• 42:15
  Speaker 4: B yeah, well, you know, we were definitely gonna do
• 42:19
  Speaker 4: something with burning there. I don't know how exactly we're
• 42:22
  Speaker 4: gonna figure it out, but we're not leaving Bernie out
• 42:24
  Speaker 4: of it. We already talked to the family and stuff
• 42:26
  Speaker 4: on how we're gonna make sure that that he a
• 42:29
  Speaker 4: part of this situation too. And then you know, it's
• 42:32
  Speaker 4: a lot of you know, it may be that idea
• 42:35
  Speaker 4: like how you put somebody on next, it's a lot
• 42:37
  Speaker 4: of like these guys is out here that's like how
• 42:39
  Speaker 4: and you be like, all right, cool, how we pass
• 42:41
  Speaker 4: that torch and say what's next?
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 42:43
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, and maybe do it like
• 42:45
  Speaker 4: that with you know us doing like smaller sets and
• 42:49
  Speaker 4: you know, I don't know, we're gonna figure it out,
• 42:51
  Speaker 4: but we liked the idea of knowing that it was
• 42:54
  Speaker 4: such a big brand and we all out here still
• 42:56
  Speaker 4: doing it and you know we might as well might
• 42:59
  Speaker 4: as well have some fun with it.
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: What do you see? This is my last question. Who
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: do you see out here now that reminds you of you?
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: Man? But I got somebody, man, But I want to
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: know if more like me. I don't know.
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: I mean, he had actually called his own lane more
• 43:15
  Speaker 4: than anything, but I probably would say a little real
• 43:17
  Speaker 4: like his but he ain't kind of been his own
• 43:19
  Speaker 4: thing for a long time now, but like he was
• 43:22
  Speaker 4: in that space and then I don't know, man, like uh,
• 43:26
  Speaker 4: like this is kind of like just like dib and
• 43:29
  Speaker 4: dab and do a little bit of everything.
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: Like I don't know.
• 43:33
  Speaker 5: Who you me just on a straight comedy level, Chico,
• 43:37
  Speaker 5: b oh cheeko, I see, I see you see.
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: I don't know why.
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: I just like that could be your son or something.
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: Chico Chico, Chico.
• 43:44
  Speaker 4: I love this last clipp you got the way he
• 43:46
  Speaker 4: do the Oakland dudes up there.
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but yeah.
• 43:48
  Speaker 4: Chico, Yeah he be to be swagged up and you
• 43:52
  Speaker 4: know he Yeah, I love all them dudes though. Man,
• 43:55
  Speaker 4: my guys man, like all Carlos and DC, Young Fly,
• 43:59
  Speaker 4: all them guys, Clayton, all them, you know them, Them
• 44:02
  Speaker 4: guys is fun, man, They and they all they all
• 44:04
  Speaker 4: like just tight comedians and and.
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: And good at what they do.
• 44:08
  Speaker 4: But yeah, Chico, Chico is definitely fired with it man,
• 44:11
  Speaker 4: and and and and and a lot of fun.
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: We did some shows together. Yeah. He cool, dude.
• 44:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I like a lot of these guys, man, I
• 44:18
  Speaker 4: like I like the kid mo Joe Brooks too. I
• 44:20
  Speaker 4: like him a lot. I like Ronnie Jordans. I like
• 44:23
  Speaker 4: a lot of these guys. They made me laugh. Yeah
• 44:28
  Speaker 4: enough credit at no no no, yeah and then yeah,
• 44:34
  Speaker 4: so man, it's been fun.
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: But you know, and.
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: Good him in gas Station Pills.
• 44:41
  Speaker 5: Man, it's a show called It's a show called I
• 44:43
  Speaker 5: Got a Story to Tell on tov okay and he
• 44:45
  Speaker 5: played Gastion intended that selling gasistion and pills.
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: Oh my god.
• 44:49
  Speaker 4: Man, yeah yeah he did. It's funny because he did
• 44:54
  Speaker 4: this corporate event not too long ago. I was at
• 44:57
  Speaker 4: and it was hard, like the audience was hard for him,
• 44:59
  Speaker 4: but he was just like steady man.
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: So you know, for comedians, you know when a when.
• 45:04
  Speaker 4: A comic just like drive through it. We you know,
• 45:08
  Speaker 4: I'm dying over there. I'm like, man, because he.
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: Just driving through.
• 45:13
  Speaker 8: He like, I ain't y'all, y'all understand what I'm saying.
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: But I was like, he just murdering.
• 45:21
  Speaker 4: I'm like, man, I gave him, I said, boy, are
• 45:23
  Speaker 4: you crazy man, because that's that's where the comic is.
• 45:26
  Speaker 4: Like sometimes it just ain't gonna be your room, but
• 45:28
  Speaker 4: you just like, look, I ain't thinking about y'all. Man,
• 45:30
  Speaker 4: it's Joe Funny.
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: Ladies and gentlemen said it.
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: Entertainer.
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: You can check him on broad Away. Joe Turners come
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: and gone.
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: I'm coming to see.
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely. All right, Well, we appreciate you for joining
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: the stir Creture Man. Thank y'all.
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: Man, entertainer, it's the Breakfast Club.
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: Good morning. Yeah,