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• Hali&Alicia: Happy Eve of Halloween. Happy Eve wicked messy crew. HALLOWEVE HALLOWSEVE HALLOWSEVE Isn't that actual Halloween? No. It's Halloween's Halloween, so the Eve of Halloween. You're wrong. No, yeah. I looked it up earlier, so I know you're wrong. Well, IT'S the day before Halloween, and I got my ghosts on and Alicia's Autumn. I'm Autumn themed. I wore something scary the last two weeks. Yeah, you did. They just couldn't see the back though. But yeah, you couldn't, but just know that I It was scary. I was creepy. It was scary. so we are just recovering from my Halloween party, guys. HALI died. I died. And came back to life. And then I actually died from the flu. Like, yep. And now we're and now we're Getting back and prepping for Halloween tomorrow, our favorite holiday, as you can tell by our logo. Yes. Okay. so we have some stuff to talk about. bravo news, but let's start with covering RHONY Okay. And then Salt Lake. And then if we have time, we can talk about the summer house drama. Yes. Because it's shit which is posted to our Instagram and Facebook as well. So you can also check out the visual that Alicia made for us on what we'll discuss if we have time. Yep. Wicked Messy Podcast. That is our handle on Instagram. Yep. And you'll see at the end of this video too. Okay. episode eight of RHONY season sixteen. Havana fights. Yes. Which I like that one. Me too. That was a good one. Yeah. now we start off by ERIN talking about planning Abe's birthday, Cuban themed celebration. Mm-hmm. I do want to say what if I were Abe, I'd be like, this party is not for me. Why are you making my birthday parties about you? leave me out of this. I know. And where's Abe's opinion on anything? Abe got screwed this episode. He really did. But I will say Erin finally said a positive thing about Abe and said that he is a very good dancer and his hips can move and he can salsa and I was like wow you said something nice about your husband. Congratulations. Yeah. Yeah I think she said It's true what they say about a Latin lover. Yeah, and that too. Yes. poor Abe. He's about to get fired. good old Justin from Salt Lake if she keeps talking like that. I know. don't sexualize your husband on camera. Doesn't go well for them. No shit. Ladies. Abe is bald, but I think he used to be cute back in the day, I believe. Yeah. He's not a bad looking guy. No, he's not. But And what did Sai say? He's a JubAn. A Jewish Cuban. Which I thought was funny. I've never heard that. Me neither. Yeah. It's clever. We also have Jessel and Pavit filling Pavit in on a gossip. so she's catching him up from the trip that they just got back from. And I hate how they do this. Like obviously you call you saw your husband the second you landed. Yeah. And now we have to pretend to have this scene. I know. And then PAVIT takes some shots at ERIN and says she looks like she's fifty. He didn't even mean to at first though. That's what made it good. I thought she was fifty. Really? Yeah. Well, I don't know what I thought she was. I know. She must be in late forties, right? She has four kids. I know. Three kids? No, four, right? She's got the baby. She's got the no, three. I don't know. She has three, I think. I don't know. Let's see what the internet says. She was born in nineteen eighty seven. So she's three years older than me. so so she's only thirty nine? She doesn't yeah. She's not even forty. AS OF 2023 SHE IS THIRTY SIX YEARS OLD. Yeah, so she's thirty nine. Yeah. I will say she doesn't look thirty nine. No, she looks in her forties. She easily. But I I don't think I associate that with like having that many kids. And her oldest seems older. The son. I know, but I don't know. Jessel doesn't seem that old. No, she doesn't. You're right. Neither does SAI And it's not that Erin's gotten like a c crazy amount of work done. And but also I think Erin is beautiful. The whole cast is beautiful. I'm I don't mean it like that, but I mean she just she doesn't look thirty nine. No. She's definitely had a lot of work done though, probably. You think so? Subtle things. Yeah, probably like a little on her nose, on her chin. She's probably had like a little bit of a lifts or fillers and then our boobs probably have been done. Well yeah. The boobs for sure, I would assume. Yeah, especially if she BREASTFED Interesting. okay. So sh yeah, so Jessel says, Hey, listen, the girls are saying Erin said that you were batting for the other team. Takes him a little bit to understand whatever and He says, I only project straightness, ask me any of my gay friends. I know that was such a weird statement. I was thinking dummy. Yeah, listen, if he's not gay, then he's just not that into our those are the two options. Either way, it's not great. There is something that comes up on the preview for next week where Jessel is saying, I think PAVIT hates me. So I'm interested to see how that plays out in the next episode. Yeah, he obviously does not like Well, she's an asshole to him. Remember the whole goodwill thing? Okay, you can take care of that. Yeah, but what if she's only an asshole to him because he's always an asshole to her? Yeah. This could be like a situation. Yeah. We'll see. We'll see what happens. She's I'm unsure about her these days, too. I know. TBH. Yeah. She's back and forth. so SAI'S divorce. Yeah, so then we're gonna have Daisy at SAI'S apartment. Yep. For some sushi. For some sushi. and Sai is just kind of recounting what had happened to her. She was walked up on by some guy in sweatpants. Yeah, with a shirt on. She thought she she was getting robbed. Yeah. But he was just serving her divorce papers. And they're LIKE OH my God, I thought that was only in the movies. I was You thought that was only in the movies? Yeah, I don't know ABOUT that. but so SAI then starts talking a little bit about. Erin as well. Yes. Yeah. and repeats what she said that you said you liked last week. She said, Well, listen, when Erin drinks, she just gets loosey goosey. Yep. So I think Erin's gonna have to be a surface level friend and not the friend that I call at 3 a.m. when I'm in jail. Yeah, she side-eyes her, she doesn't trust her anymore and cause she doesn't feel like she took accountability, which is what I pointed out. Because Erin really doesn't, because it's always a BUT after I'm sorry, or I shouldn't have done that. Always, yeah. No accountability. Yeah. Now we also see those two girls, SAI and Daisy talking crap about HAILEY back to her response about what her job was, and they're saying she's always speaking in a circle. Yeah. You never know what she's getting at. Yep. But SAI does call Daisy out again for her complaining at MOSKITO. And then Daisy says, Well, I sent her an orchid. Yes, thank you, orchid. Yeah. And then we cut to ERIKA getting the orchid and being like, What the fuck? She's not impressed. No. At all. And she's like, where was this kindness at MOSKITO Island? Damn right. Yeah. And it's like, that is an apology orchid. how is that a thank you orchid? yeah. Thank you would say thank you. Exactly. and then IN SAI'S confessional, she does say that Daisy's been a hater for as long as she remembers. So maybe she doesn't have the awareness of it. I DON'T FUCKING KNOW. this next scene, I don't was this Abe and ERIN'S vacation home or just their REGULAR HOME? Yeah, this is the SAG home that flooded. Yeah, they're looking at the progress of this house that she compared to Hurricane Katrina and it's gorgeous. What the fuck is going on here? It's down to the studs. What? Isn't that where they had the party? No. What is going on? No, no, no. They're renting a townhouse where the party was. This was the SAG house that was flooded, that we saw the footage of it being flooded and all this property being ruined. Yeah. And then now this guy's like, this is gonna cost you two to three million dollars and they both look like they were gonna have a heart attack. yeah. They don't have any money right now. And I didn't realize the mold was the issue of the aftermath. So it's not the actual water damage, it's the mold that then takes over. So they had to rip everything out. Like there's nothing in that house right now, pretty much. I mean at that down to the studs. Yeah, at that point you just knock it down. Honestly. Like it's crazy. I know. Maybe that would be five million and But two to three million, that sucks. That it doesn't sound like they can do it. No. then we have Daisy going over CAROLE'S which I thought was a weird combo. Yeah. So I did find that to be very odd. the second that Daisy walks in, CAROLE says you need to take your shoes off. Daisy lies because she's a pathological liar and says, these shoes were taken out of the box in Dale's car. From Zale's and I just walked up your stairs and CAROLE goes, Let me see the bottom of your shoes. And she CAROLE says, Those aren't new. Ew. But then I noticed that CAROLE has shoes on and I they get I think they're flip flops or something, and she steps on her own carpet and then you see her take a step back and take her flip flops off and walk on the carpet. I was like, What are you doing? But what but your house? But we don't know maybe those are inside shoes. Like maybe she just wears those. But why did you step back and take them off? To prove a point, don't wear that in my house. Maybe. Okay. I don't know. Yeah, weird. That's weird. She's weird. She's fucking weird. and then she we going off weird, she brings up this analogy of an onion versus a MCINTOSH apple. Yeah. so in reference to SAI So we're talking about how SAI is kind of hard to read, and Daisy says she, you know, a lot of onions to peel back. And a CAROLE says, Well, I don't like onions. I like apples, MCINTOSH apples. But she says Daisy's a MCINTOSH apple too. And I'm No, she's not No, she's not. She's a hundred percent not. but you can't convince me that CAROLE was not referring to Bethany when she was saying I've been burned by onions before. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because it's true. No, it's like that is Bethany. But then Daisy, which is this is just so fucked up. do you get on a reality TV show and then your 20 year friendship is out the window because she makes this bold statement that SAI doesn't have any empathy? She was raised without any empathy in her house and with her parental figures. Don't say that. Not good. SAI is gonna be so upset. Okay, but here's the thing. Did you think I I understand how it came across? Do you think in that moment Daisy meant that as trying to protect Sai and be like she just doesn't she just doesn't know any better. I DONT.. or do you think it was her kind of feeding the fire? Feeding the fire. I think she's wrapped up in this reality TV world now and she's like, I'm on film right they're filming me and I'm just gonna I feel like she said, yeah, just enough things that could be considered nice that she could like when it's played back she can like, Well I said you have many layers, like there's a lot to you. Right. But also she didn't When CAROLE said, Well, you know what happens when you bite into an onion? You get more onion. Yep. It's gross. And, you know, Daisy didn't defend it. So it's like she was o it's almost like she wanted to act the illusion of trying to be a good friend, but wanted SAI to look as bad as possible. Yep. Yeah, a hundred percent. And then there's also Daisy complaining, I missed this. This was even before the SAI conversation, complaining that she did get a private jet to MOSKITO Island. I'm like, Can you just leave this alone? She should, but I it I do want to say though, she made a good point. She was like, MOSKITO Island is full of billionaires that have private jets to get to their private island. And I'm not saying that she should have been invited to the jet, but there's a lot of talk about jets. And I'm wondering, does ANKUR have a PJ? A hundred percent, but they're not just because you own a private, well, you don't I don't even know if it's technically owning a private jet because you have to then pay the stewardess, you have to pay the pilot, you have to pay for the fuel. But if you're a BILLIONAIRE I know, but I'm not, I don't know. I wouldn't expect my husband to be shipping everyone out no private jet. Of course not. So that's why I'm like, fuck off. Unless you guys literally were like, we want a private jet to go there and we're all gonna put money in. But for fine. But for ERIKA to say, I've never flown any of my friends out, it's like Yeah, but why? 'Cause it's expensive, probably. Maybe maybe ANKUR isn't a huge spender. probably not. It's just I'm The rich get richer for a reason. But it is I just I feel that it is odd. Especially because usually and this is a good thing, by the way. This means she's not a monster if what I'm saying is true, but it's like your first year on Housewives. You have more money than all the girls on the cast put together. Okay. Most people in this position try to really peacock. Yeah. And they will pull out all of the stops. And then the girls are ungrateful anyway. So I'm not saying she should have done that. Yeah, thank God she didn't. But I'm just really trying to figure things out because why wouldn't you just do that to shut her up or like do some Because she's above it. Did she pay for their business class? Because they were in the pods. They were laying down. No, I agree. I don't think she should have, but I find it odd that she didn't. Yeah. I can think of a million reasons why she should have. But she's also not, it's her husband's money. No, I know. And she's not, yes, her dad was a doctor. They lived in Texas. They probably had a beautiful house and everything, but I don't think she she didn't have money like that. No, no. So maybe it's not even like I totally get it. And I'm sure there's a reasonable explanation for all of it. But something something feels off, not in a sneaky way, but s we're not being told like something. Yeah. Like it's just weird. Maybe ANKUR'S controlling. See, that's kind of what I was getting at. Yeah. But he seems lovely though. That's the worst part is I can't no matter what way I twist the story, it still doesn't make sense. But I have a feeling he's not gonna be on this season much at all. And maybe that's a a big red flag. Yeah. Because he'd slip and be a little controlling. We'll find yeah, we'll find out something he seems so sweet though. He does, he really does. Something's GOING ON. Just kinda go lucky. happy go-lucky. okay, so now we're at CAROLE at HAILEY'S house. And CAROLE'S wearing a Ferrari race jacket. I can't keep up with this woman. I'm done with her. but yeah, so HAILEY, who's claimed she's been sick since the trip, but she's wearing full glam, is opening up about Not just wearing full glam, she had her glam team come and do her makeup in her bed. Yes. I can't with this woman. Yes. And CAROLE was like, hmm? Yeah. Maybe Hayley really would not be caught dead without makeup. And is like I feel like she'd actually would look good. I'm not saying she wouldn't, but maybe she wouldn't. Even though we saw that crunchy picture of her when she was in her twenties in college. Yeah. Do you remember? And she obviously But I don't know. She didn't look bad, no. She's like, I don't Average. Yeah, weird. so, anyways, HAILEY starts talking to CAROLE about the possibility of things are starting to look a little differently with my marriage. And what if I did find the right person? Right. How are you married and you're on camera telling CAROLE, well, maybe if I found the right person, you're married. RUBIN is gonna see this. well then it even goes into how she's like saying dating women is better and different and blah blah blah and talking about sex positions and lesbian sex as Pilates, which I don't understand that. Well What do you mean you gotta hold the position? Well I guess you can't just flop and let it happen. Yeah. you have to hold come on, think about it. You kinda can flop if they're down there. Yeah, but not the person doing that. Yeah. She it sounds like she might be the one. Gotcha, okay. Yeah, I don't know. Or even I don't know, haven't done it before, but I'm like the more I think about it, I'm like, yeah, that probably would suck. And CAROLE'S like, I have muscles and I've never gotten with a girl. I know CAROLE, shut the fuck up. Wait, but HAILEY said something not to be a total man hater. But I thought this was iconic. Quote unquote. And she's serious. This is and I think what makes her really quick TV gold is she does not mean to be funny. She does not mean to do what she's doing. It's just her. Yeah. So she says, Men bring nothing to the table unless you want to have babies and this and that. Dude. She also says, but if you date a woman, you understand why men die first. Yeah. And CAROLE'S sitting over here, like, yeah. That's not what happened to me. I just like you said, I don't know how RUBIN puts up with this. there's something weird about their marriage. Well, let's tell the people what we know. So, for something in this tr I don't see any notes on it, but something triggered me. because later in this discussion, she says, because CAROLE says, Well, do you want a kid? And she says, Well, Ruben's like my kid. Yeah, and I thought that was odd. So I said something clicked, and I said, Who the hell says that about a 90 year old man? And then I look it up. you thought he was 90. I thought he was at least 70. I did too. 65. Yeah. 50, 40? Yeah. Not 39. Guys, this man is 39 years old. He looks like he's very young. He looks like he's like in fucking tech or something. Not he looks like Mark Zuckerberg. That's a meek little thing. Wait, you have to put that picture on the screen for 100%. Guys, this is crazy. He RUBIN is young. I'm thinking younger than HAILEY. And so does he live on Martha's Vineyard? That's what she was alluding to. And later in the season, we're going to her Martha's Vineyard house. I know. So like we're gonna Well, no, we're going to CAROLE'S. Car what? CAROLE'S husband's Martha's Vineyard house. The Kennedys all have houses on Martha's Vineyard. I'm pretty sure it's CAROLE'S house. I don't think so. No? I don't know. I'd be shocked. I feel like it is. We've had her on seasons and seasons and seasons and never has she ever brought us to her to a house in Mark's vineyard. Yeah. But I I don't know. I feel like in one of the previews she was saying it was her house. I don't know, but that if she did, that would be cool because then Healy could have a little buddy. Yeah, but the Kennedys aren't gonna be happy. I would be shocked. Although it would make more sense why they'd be all pissy if she did actually bring cameras onto their family owned property. So that could make sense. Yeah. I don't know. We should we'll remember that. Yeah. okay. And if it is HAILEY'S house, we better see RUBIN. Or even at HIS store. HAILEY, I know. I know. But maybe he's embarrassed. We should go there next summer. We should find a store, dude. We should. We should. We should go there anyways. we need to see the owner immediately. Immediately. I have a tank Rolex that I need him to look at. All right, let's get to the party. The Abe's party. OH MY God. start off with Daisy asking for the PJ too, ERIKA. I know, like right away. God. Right, because ERIKA jokingly approaches Daisy about the apology plan. Yes. The apology orchid. Daisy says it was a thank you, not an apology. Daisy had a lot of good zingers. She did. this season. She did. now, so as you said, we have the private plane expectations for the private island. It's but again, ERIKA only bitches about it in her confessional and really doesn't say much to Daisy face to face. It's like, girl, speak up. You're a billionaire. I know. She money equals power. And just tell her to shut the FUCK UP Literally, literally, fuck off. Tell her. All right, we're gonna have to take a quick, not in not an actual break, but break from life because they're trying to trick us here, HALI. Why? Bravo is trying to make us believe that fucking CAROLE bought the jacket that Daisy tried to buy on camera in episode two from the real real. Why do you think that's them trying to trick us? Because in real real life, CAROLE has posted online that or said on Watch What Happens Live, Daisy owns the jacket now because she bought it from CAROLE and she upcharged her for it. So Daisy owns it now. Well, that would be that would be assuming that any of that was true. That's what I'm saying. you don't think you think CAROLE'S lying that she sold it to her? I don't know. I just I really don't know if I believe that. I know, what are the odds? And SAI'S reaction was not big enough. that's such an insane coincidence that if somebody I'd be like, it would take me a while to even process that. Because it's just But Daisy did look shocked. I guess. Yeah. I I I just have a gut feeling that that was Bravo bought it. I think it was just a paid advertisement by the real real. I think that that's what they do, Okay. That's what I think. because it is it is a small world, but something felt off about that. And I don't like when they try to like sneakily do that. Yeah. Like just put it on as a commercial. There's forty commercials. It's a television. Like just make it the real real. Yeah, that doesn't make sense. so we meet a new girl named DEVYN DEVYN Simone, who's obviously been brought in by Erin to take down SAI. well no, she's brought in by Jessel. She's Jessel's friend. Yeah, they're BFFs. and she likes and Jessel likes SAI now, right? Yeah. So maybe she will. Well Jessel Previously it said that she tried to get them to get coffee or whatever and DEVYN was so down because she's like, Well, Jessel, if you like Sai, then I'm obviously gonna like her. And then SAI did some investigating, saw DEVYN'S Instagram and said, No, it's irritating. I don't like her grid. Yeah. And I'm not gonna meet her. And then they also had some sort of introduction at some point and SAI was like kind of bitchy. Yeah. So DEVYN was like, This is a weird taste in my mouth. I know. DEVYN is so pretty. And she I think she's joining. That was absolutely an introduction episode. Yeah. No doubt. So she's gonna be a friend of She had the that energy for sure. Absolutely. but we did skip that the SAI found out that Daisy complained about her sushi day date at her house and said it was grocery store, sushi, and then Sy's comeback is that Daisy serves supermarket shrimp cocktail. Costco. Costco Costco. Costco. And I'm like, I can't. And Daisy's husband is standing right there. I know. When Sai's attacking Daisy, saying, Why the fuck did you say that in my sushi? He didn't say a damn thing. No, he didn't say anything. He said nothing, didn't even bat an eyelash. Daisy's like, Honey, do you want some ceviche? So I was like, speaking of fish, by the way, your wife is a bitch. Yeah. And he's just sitting there like He's like, I know. I'm getting a divorce soon. And and now while this scene is happening, we also have Daisy and SAI talking shit about each other's fish markets and their conditions. Daisy says that SAI'S fish market buys fish from her fish market. but I guess Sai's the fish market in Brooklyn is called Fish Tails. And I thought that was funny. That's what Sai says. You would never catch me fucking dead in the fish market. We went to one when we were in Italy. Disgusting. It was insane. Disgusting. I don't want to see that shit. SOME OF THEM throws fish. And she said I was like, it doesn't even smell like fish at my fish market. I'm like, that's not possible. No. What? No. She's like, it's very clean. I'm yeah, you can be clean, but you can't unfish the fish. NOT Rancid, but you still smell fish. I would hope so. Yeah. What the fuck? meanwhile, all this is happening, and no, sorry. So Jessel arrives two hours late. Jessel does arrive very late. Erin is getting overwhelmed telling her kids to just go to bed. Yes. CAROLE and DEVYN are bonding over SAI not being liked by either of them. Yes. Okay. We're getting a flashback of what you were saying of Jessel, DEVYN, ERIKA in a pool. DEVYN reveals the Instagram thing. Okay, Jessel walks in late. And SAI'S a bitch, and they have this fake ass hug. DEVYN and SAI. Yeah. DEVYN like okay. Jessel says in her confessional that she does feel bad about being late because she actually does like Abe and it's not his fault that he's married to an absolute moron. Yep. but that little argument between ERIN and Abe that was literally insane. And I didn't realize how similar to Arabic because he says khalas and halas in Arabic is stop. It's almost the same word. And that's exactly what he was saying to her. stop enough. And it's halas in Arabic. But halas in Ger so she was owner to saw it. Yes. And that was a different side to Abe, because I was like, damn. But he didn't even speak poorly to her though. He didn't until that point because he was like, Shut the fuck up. We have a fucking babysitter. Why the fuck are you worried about the fucking kids? And I was thinking the same fucking thing. I'm like, Erin, shut the fuck up. Yeah. Abe says in his confessional, now they're paying. Abe to have a fucking confessional. I know. But he does say in his confessional. WELL HE SHOULD TO defend himself. He pay I know, I know. He paid someone to put the kids to bed. He and he deserves a night off. And that this is an example of how Erin doesn't understand boundaries. Yep. Yep. It's like, what but if I were Abe, but then you can't really argue because you're on camera. If I were Abe though, I would have just been like, We hired someone, so either sh that person that I pay can do it, or I don't give a shit. Do it if you want. This is my party. Well, literally all he did was, let's go, sweetheart. Let's go. And then brought them to the babysitter upstairs on the s the fifth floor or whatever the fuck floor it was. What is the problem? I don't Erin is a problem. That's the problem. So while this is happening, maybe she gets like you and I when she's hosting and she's just overwhelmed, and then that was THE CHERRY ON TOP. sh I think that was absolutely because the drama had nothing to do with her and she looked very stressed. Yeah, she called him a psycho. She was being mean to him. I know. She's like, all right, you psycho after he said KHALAS I know. so CAROLE admits that she told HAILEY about the sushi thing. Yeah. Yeah, but she played it off like, Who did I tell? yeah. I'm like, my god, just come with it. OH, by the way, Jessel is pulling a daisy during all of this and talking shit about Aaron's house. She says, Why are there bars on the window? Who killed Barney and made them yeah. And it was the exact shade of Barney, by the way. Are you serious? I actually thought it wasn't the exact shade of Barney. I thought it was a little off. I could not believe how it should be a little bit lighter. We didn't talk about it, but my god. I think if you saw a picture of Barney, you'd be No, that's not a Barney. Close. Have it pretty locked up here. I don't know. Well, I will pop up a picture of the couch and the Barney on the pod. Awesome. Perfect. Can we also talk about I missed this, but CAROLE'S tiger couch that she got from her mother in law in the beginning? Yeah. You didn't like that? I loved it. I was I did like her furniture and stuff. I like the end table. It was like an X. It was like stone. No, the tiger couch. Honestly, I didn't look at the couch. I don't really like CAROLE, so I really didn't pay attention too much during that scene. And I don't like Daisy, so Well, it was a great couch. But it's gone now, I guess. She had to get it reapholstered because it was falling apart. okay. Also, the it came to light that CAROLE is avoiding SAI and they did a flashback of CAROLE was at HAILEY'S and then freaks out, which I thought that was weird. Like SAI rings a doorbell or says, like, Hello, I'm here 'cause she's coming to see HAILEY. And CAROLE'S like, Who is here? As if like the feds were coming. I'm like, whoa. Dude, she's weird. She did. SAI was right though. So I was why did you leave the second I came? Dipped. And CAROLE I have a dermatologist anyways. I have a dermatologist appointment. No, you don't. You don't just decide to go to the dermatologist. You have to make an appointment. no, you don't. No longer and just say I don't like you. Literally, literally. SAI'S is a big girl, she can take it. And she already got the hint. She's saying in her confessional, You don't like me, but I thought we were okay. Yeah. Stupid. So SAI is now trying to get CAROLE'S attention. Yes. CAROLE, CAROLE, CAROLE. She has no manners. And Daisy is trying to coach her in the situation and tell her, Hey, maybe don't do that. She she sees herself as helping, but SAI is absolutely experiencing it as being a fucking badgered. But if you are friends with this girl for twenty years, it just seems very interesting to me that you wouldn't know that SAI'S not the girl to publicly say, Can you say that politely? 'Cause SAI says, Fuck you, I'm not your kid. She d who the are you a Daisy? Anyone, anyone that's met Sai one day would know not to reprimand her, let alone in a room full of her own enemies. Literally, but they go at it and a Embarrassing. Everyone exits the room. CAROLE'S like, this isn't my vibe. I'm out. I'm like, stop using the word vibe, lady. You're 80 years old. It's disgusting. I know. She kept being this is not my vibe. I'm like, it's not even really about you. CAROLE, it's not even about you. It's about you, but it's not about you. STOP Honestly, CAROLE, if you just told SAI I DON'T like you, she wouldn't be screaming your name and trying to get your attention because you're dodging her. CAROLE'S like, I am never giving anyone the time of day that tries to get my attention like that. Uh-uh. I know. Shut that. You think you're so good, lady, and you're not. Okay. You were in the mud with the rest of the pigs five years ago when you were still on the original show. Like, don't act like you are like this like fucking pinnacle of maturity. You're not. No. TUBE socks, McGee. Literally. so by the way, CAROLE is smoking a black and mild out the window. Was that a black and mild? Was that a blunt? What was happening? you think it might have been a blunt? I don't fucking know. Whatever it was. Yeah, I was like, this is so weird. Are we in an apartment? Yeah, she's sitting in the she gotta fall out the window. With her fucking fedora. Literally, literally. So Meanwhile, Daisy and SAI though are going back and forth, and I wrote these quotes down that Sai's like, I don't give a rat's cock if she likes me. Who says that? A rat has a cock? It's brilliant, honestly. And then I don't know if you left your Marbles in Battery Park. I CAN'T with these bitches. She's good though. She is good. It's good. She good. fucking Daisy could never do. No, Daisy was like, I'm just trying to help. Daisy talks. That's why you don't have any friends. No one likes you. Nobody likes you. Okay, SAI.. so then Daisy slams the door, and Jessel makes sure to get one more gut punch in, and she says, we shouldn't slam these doors. They look like they're going to crumble. Don't you think they're gonna crumble? And what's this green puffer thing? Green puffer. Obviously it was a decoration for the kids. Literally. Shut up. OH MY god. But the decorations were not good. Wait, did you know that everybody knows this besides me, apparently. What? Erin's an interior decorator? No, I did not know that. What the heck? I know. So the fa you should have made sure rough. You should not have I th I th I thought the house I really liked it, but I'm also you would want that many floors and stairs? That seems like a nightmare. It's like FIVE FLOORS! I'm talking about the interior decorating. you liked the Barney couch. You liked I did. I but truth be told, I'm not like I I definitely don't have an eye for decorating, so I'm not like I THINK YOU DID a good job with your house. That's deck that's Halloween decoration, Samuel. Not that. No, I didn't decorate anything else. The tables you got, the kitchen table you got. Don't sell yourself short. But you know what I And you the fireplace. It's not like my thing. So it's like for the fact that it's not your thing. I like your house better than this townhouse. OH WOW! Okay. Well, I did, I did like the townhouse, but not to the level of an interior decor designer. That's what I was getting at. It wasn't like horrible, but for someone And it's gonna be on TV, wouldn't you make sure e everything? Why are you renting a townhouse? Sag Harbor is not your main house. I don't think they have no they definitely don't have money. But to be throwing it on rent crazy. So it it ends with Daisy going into the other room and calls Sai a condescending see you next Tuesday. Yep. And then we'll see what happens on next week. Yeah, so I thought that was a good episode. That was a very good episode. I was laughing. Crazy how the party had that much chaos. And Erin was just getting away from the fighting. She was like, I want nothing to do with this. She really dodged every single time. She did not have one disagreement with anyone besides her husband. I know. I know. Which is the worst thing to do. It is the worst thing. So we have Real Housewives of Salt Lake City, season seven, episode seven, Star Signs and Struggles. Okay. So Heather is throwing a Jupiter year party. Yep. and let me just start by saying this is not a good episode for BRITANI Let me tell you that. my god, she should not have come back on this show. She should not have come to this event, that is for sure. I know. She, okay, we'll get to it. Wrong with her. She's not well. Seriously, something's wrong with her. Yeah. so Heather is driving up with TRIPP. Yep, and he says he's nervous. He's dressed the nines, by the way. he looks great, and I which doesn't seem like him if he's a repair guy. That outfit was a hundred percent picked out, bought by Heather. 100%. Like that that man has never worn a suit in his life. Yeah, I know. rides a fucking motorcycle. Exactly. so they walk into the party. But in the confessional during this car ride, Heather says she's in love. I just want to point that out. She did. She does drop the L word at that point. She says they've been together for six months now and she's in love. And I'm like, YIKES-A-RONI! Don't go too fast, honey. she's already way past that. You got a lot of money. You got a boom in business. Yikes. But, anyways, yes. Yeah. there are men dressed in togas. Yeah. She was acting a lot different than she typically would if TRIPP wasn't on her arm. Normally she'd be all over those guys. And she'd be like, you're so attractive. And like just very flirty. And I was like, Whoa, she's barely look she's looking, but she's looking away really. I know. I thought that was interesting. Me too. so everyone's dressing for the Zodiac theme. Wait, but then we have Brandon and Bronwyn in their car coming to the party. yep. We have them. And Brandon discloses to BRONWYN sh which I was like, You're so dumb. Why would you ever say this? That he was jamming out to the glam kittens initially and then realized Bronwyn was upset and stopped. And they did a flashback and he lost. She was pissed when he said that. I it was a little hard for me to focus on anything on the scene other than BRONWYN'S horrible outfit. In her horrible hair? Brush her hair. I think I have a theory because out of nowhere the lady this whole time has had a very like a bob almost. A specific bob. And now she's just wearing this wig that's down to her ass. Like what did Brandon tell you that he liked it one time and now you've made it your entire personality? It's not a good look. No. And you should have someone brush it, but you're gonna keep wearing it. Yeah. And it looks bad. Trashy. It's a bad wig. Go talk to Meredith. She obviously is doing better in that area. Yep. now we also have Angie and Mary driving in a car together. Yes. Angie, as always, is doing too much and says, I'm an Aquarius, so this is because I'm a water sign. And I love your outfit, Mary. And Mary goes, Well, I didn't dress up. This is just a dress. And Angie's like, well, why? And she says, Because I'm a Libra, what am I gonna do? Wear a frickin' scale. Production immediately cuts to Whitney, Rose walking into the party, who's also a Libra, who also is wearing a BROUGHT scale. Yes, she did. Like an old like Greek scale or whatever. exactly. so Mary is clearly over this and seems genuinely done with Angie before they even arrive. And she's DONE with everyone, I feel like. But but it felt especially confusing since Angie is supposed to be her best friend on the cast. Again, I think this goes back to what we said last time that that Mary does know that there's trouble in paradise for Angie, and Angie has not told Mary yet. Yes, I we're gonna I think she's holding on to that. you're not actually a good friend if you haven't filled me in on your life. Mm-hmm. I it has to be something like that because it is very obvious that it was not explained to us, but it will be. Yeah. now we have Whitney who sees Tripp and gives him a big hug in her confessional. She says she's a big TRIPP fan. She really likes him for Heather. They've been out with him, with Justin and her and Heather and TRIPP. Yep. And she reveals that Heather is saying that she's having a lot of sex and Whitney is jealous. Yes. and then Heather starts revealing what happened at that last scene, last episode, when they were all out to eat. Lisa, Angie, Mary, Heather in that. Lisa s made a comment, what is she going through a divorce? Weird thing to just throw out there, first off. But then Whitney quickly is like, OH yeah? She's talking shit about me? Well, she doesn't realize John talks to Justin and they're not financially doing well, and he can't stand her and he hates his life. Yeah. And I'm not YOU ARE not even drinking. Yeah, what? Right? It doesn't you don't need liquor to be a jerk. Yeah. And also, I don't know if their finances are bad. Like I I don't know. I don't believe that Lisa has the amount of money that she makes it seem like, but I also don't think that she's doing in any trouble. No. She's friggin' she just got a deal with Wendy's. You can go and get no today it was revealed she got a partnership with Mac cosmetics today. wow. See, she's f crazy. Yeah. She's fine. Yeah. so also QUAI and Bronwyn are both Virgos. Yeah. So apparently Bronwyn's stupid outfit, she's supposed to be the virgin. QUAI'S in all red, so she's the vixen. Yeah. BRITANI'S a Gemini, and for some reason she's wearing her high body count hair. I know. Why did she do that? No. High candy count. Yeah. Who said that, Mary? Angie. Angie. It's funny. Heather also hired a mystic, which I guess is somebody that reads compatibility between SPIRTUAL GIRL READING? YEAH I DIDN'T understand that. Angie and Mary do it together. Mary brings up that her son was a scorpion. Angie Scorpio Scorpio. my god. Scorpion. I said her son Scorpion son is what I wrote down. Scorpio. Wait, so I'm confused. So is Angie an Aquarius? No, she's a Scorpio. She's Scorpio. so why was she talking about her water sign? I don't know. Scorpio is what type of sign? I thought it was Must be water. I thought it was fire. No No Water sign. I was gonna say I don't think so because I don't because Scorpio's right above mine, which is Sagittarius, and I'm a fire. Okay. All right. So any but we also find out, and I did not know this, so I just said I'm a Sagittarius. Lisa and Meredith are Sagittariuses too. I know. That's crazy. And their days, birthdays one day apart. That is so funny. It is. You know what? These two are the only ones having any friggin' fun on this cast. I know. They're the only ones that are gonna walk away from the season. Looking good, I think. I know. Because they don't care. I know. everyone else is getting so upset. But only because they're together. Well, yes. Only when they are together. Yeah. But they they're the only ones that have an actual friendship, as far as I can see right now. I know. I know. And we're gonna gravitate to that as viewers. Yes. Yeah. So yeah. BRITANI approaches Seth, Meredith's husband. my gosh. as saying, Hi, how are you doing? Lisa, who is just Happens to be at the bar at the same time where this is all happening, just pipes in and says, you know, what makes you think he wants to talk to you? I don't think the feeling's mutual. And then Seth kind of says, Well, I don't really talk shit about you, BRITANI. Seth is like, I don't care about this. And Meredith kind of like tries to stop the CONVO and get in the middle. Yeah. And then Seth says he has to leave. But then when Meredith is walking him out, it was almost like a hot mic it it it r it was like she did this on purpose to be like, I can't believe you left then. So now you make it seem like you're uncomfortable and you're leaving, but you actually have an obligation. I'm like, what the fuck is happening? Wasn't that weird? Very fucking weird. Like I didn't Then after the phone call too, saying he couldn't find the driver He obviously did not call her. I know. Or he did and was like, what the fuck? Like, I don't know. I don't know. Weird. It was weird. They are not like I don't care what anyone says. They are not good. They HAVE NEVER BEEN GOOD. He was going to see his girlfriend. First shirt. Yeah, that's fucking weird. Very weird. I didn't like that. And I'm just so over Meredith the way she talks. What do you mean? and then she says to fucking BRITANI. She says, You're a complete weirdo freak. Stay away from me. A WEIRDO freak. my God. I do love it. my God. So Angie decides to tell Bronwyn that BRITANI has been kind of investigating her property records and doing some digging. and Bronwyn explains, yeah, again, I'm not on the deed, but she's a trustee. Yep. So Angie says, I do have one more thing to tell you. And Bronwyn declines wanting to know and laughs and says, Angie, you're like a the game of telephone at Salt Lake or something. Yeah. And then she goes, you don't want to know? And BRONWYN goes, I don't want to know. And she goes, Okay, so I will not tell you that Lisa is telling people that Brandon is a PR stunt. Yeah, exactly. And she's like, she cannot believe it. She even goes up to Brandon. Yeah. BRONWYN goes up to Brandon and says, Can you believe the girls are saying this is a PR stunt? And that was a Very weird interaction because it was like Brandon didn't even respond at first, and then at the end he's like, That would be a lot of money. And I'm like, What the fuck? This is fucking weird. She was almost looking at him, like, say the right thing. I know, I know. What what do you think, Brandon? Yeah. It was weird. Like, okay. And obviously, if it's not a PR stunt, then he's just using you. What don't you get? Well, so this is what I wrote down too. While Angie was stirring the pot telling Bronwyn all this shit about BRITANI Lisa's flirting with Brandon. Then it cuts to Brandon fli like not flirting, but chit-chatting with BRITANI'S daughter. And I'm like, he gets around here, every female. And she was lit up like a Christmas tree. She was like it. Feeling the combo. I know. And I'm like, there's a lot of guys at this party. Why is he with every female? Mm-hmm. Not looking good. No. so ch Then they all all the girls kind of navigate to this little table, and then BRITANI leaves whoever she was chit chatting with who's not on the show, and comes over to the table. And Bronwyn is like, What did she say? BRITANI says, Did I walk in on something? And Bronwyn's like, Did you want to? And I'm like, my God. She is she's crazy. She's crazy. She says she's professionally curious, is the reason why she was looking into this house sale and if Bronwyn's name was on it and Angie's property value. Totally. Professional curiosity. Totally. and when she says that about the professional curiosity, at this point it's pretty much a group setting. All the girls are just standing around. Yeah. QUAI says that she finds it a little bit invasive. And BRITANI out of nowhere just kinda says, Well, I know things about you too. I know a lot about you too. And then that's creepy. She's creepy. BRITANI'S creepy. Then calls QUAI a whore. Well, well and QUAI says well, QUAI says first, makes a comment about BRITANI being an attention whore and BRITANI says, Well, at least I'm not a whore. And QUAI says, Well, at least I have a husband. Which she knows cuts BRITANI TO THE CORE! That's like But going back a little bit while Bronwyn and BRITANI are going back and forth, the one thing that offended BRITANI was Bronwyn calling her a nim NIM-CUM-POOP Yeah. I laughed at She said, Don't you call me that? She c yeah, she was very NIM-CUM poop. It was the fuck Bronwyn. It was funny though. Who says that? And there's candy in BRITANI'S hair. And Angie eats it. And Angie eats it, which is disgusting. It is disgusting. I feel like though Angie and QUAI in there, not Angie, whoever else was saying that Whitney and QUAI were like in their confessionals and stuff. I'm like, relax. She just got her hair done. I know. I know. We what okay, so we also have We also But then everything disperses pretty much and then it's Angie and BRITANI at a separate table. Okay. And Angie's saying, like, you did this to yourself. You need to cut the shit. And then here comes the victim of BRITANI every time, which Bronwyn called. She said in a few minutes, you're gonna be the one in tears and being the victim after you're stirring all the shit up and doing things you shouldn't, talk about things you shouldn't. And then Angie's wiping our tears because she feels bad. Which was two faced. Which wicked. You don't stir the pot, then help the person. Well, Whitney even calls out Angie for being two faced. And Mary agrees. I know. Mary does not Mary's pissed. Mary is pissed at Angie. Yeah. so Whitney also walks by Lisa and says, You're gonna want to call John. You better get your phone, you're gonna wanna call John. I didn't like that. I thought it I thought it was a good I like you gotta give a little bit more context. And like, when was there even a conver- She never even actually brought that to Lisa's attention unless production cut the scenes. Well, I think it was more just of a like acknowledged something. And you every time something happens, something bad happens to you, you have to call your husband. So heads up, a bomb's about to drop. And so I took that. Okay. Okay. And it got her. You could see her face. You could see Lisa's face drop when she put two and two together. She's John, Crap, what? Yeah. now Whitney asks Lisa, Do you want me to be unhappy? And Lisa says, I want you to be happy so you'll stop going on stage calling me a cunt. Yes. Couldn't believe it. I know. so meanwhile, Mary's questioning Angie's behavior towards BRITANI. And now bring in the whole flower debacle. So Angie Angie. Told BRITANI that Mary and the other girls have been saying that she BRITANI goes to nursing homes to get into their will. Yeah, get their pension. That randomly hit a nerve with BRITANI. She starts that's when she started crying and ANGIE'S wiping her tears. She said, That is something really special to me. I can't believe that it's being held against me. Meanwhile, Heather's trying to give her half-ass, half-baked speech. and tells Angie and BRITANI to zip it. The speech is a whole lot of nothing. It's like our sisterhood, we need to straight. I'm like, you guys don't. There is you out of all the franchises, you guys don't get along the most. Literally. And unfortunately, I don't know how much longer this will go if people are unwilling to film with each other. And that's that's where we're going. Okay. Yeah. so Mary ends up talking to BRITANI about the About taking the flower arrangements from Mary's event. Yep. And says my husband went out of his way to get you guys that. I'm just confused. You weren't gonna take the flowers home. Why? I don't know, what does it matter? Just stop painting. Like BRITANI'S annoying. You can paint her as that, but you can't paint her as these other things. she obviously is not a thief. Well, she no. And she's obviously not doing anything to these old people. And also she twisted the way that Mary was going off a little bit and then I think the thing about going through grief and everything, and then BRITANI says that doesn't count or that doesn't matter or something like that. And then Mary really ran with it. And I'm like, looking back at the scene, I don't really know. It is clear as day she was not talking about. BRITANI was g just gave a long sentence but Mary was talking over her while she was still talking. If you watch it in real time or when they do the flashback, any way you flip it, she was was not saying that ABOUT HER GRIEF And I felt that and the scary thing is I don't think that Mary made it into that for the cameras. I think if no one were there, that is the maybe how Mary is. Yeah. yeah. She will take your reality, her reality, and make it so. A hundred percent. Because she really felt I could feel that Mary was hurt. Mary truly believed that, but it's almost because that's what she believed of BRITANI. I know because it was so clearly not that. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. And I don't like that because she roped all the other girls in and Because listen, to label someone as being insensitive after your son died, that is like really gross. And BRITANI BRITANI clearly didn't do it. No, she didn't. And I don't felt that like that. Honestly, this whole episode I kinda like felt that BRITANI is a stupid ass and does stupid things, talks about stupid things, but it's not the worst we've ever seen on the Housewives. And now it's like you're you're like beating someone that's already down. My only the only thing I do wanna say though is BRITANI should know better than to approach Mary. Yeah. Her son just like there is no world even for any reason to go anywhere near her. And I mean that. But no. I do think though throughout this season she's been fine with Mary and the times where Mary has been willing to come out and be around her, she really hasn't approached her. So maybe if she felt like, okay, I gotta finally like try and touch base with this woman. I've sent her flowers, I've texted her, and I'm not getting anything. I don't know. I and I I get it, but her son died. There's nothing worse. She doesn't like you, and now is not the time to do it. But we still don't know the actual reason why she doesn't like her. It's not the flowers. But it doesn't matter why her son died. Leave her alone. Right. If you know she doesn't like you, just And it's not malicious, and that's the bad part. I I mean she's not doing it in a malicious way, but who does that? I know. So it goes both ways. But Mary was I don't like how she did that to BRITANI AT THE END. I don't either. No, I really felt bad for BRITANI. But there's so many scenes of just BRITANI being like, and imagine being at a party like that on a show, and every single girl on your reality TV show really doesn't like you or doesn't want to talk to you, and you're talking to Randos at a par like. And her daughter was there. She was somewhere. I don't know. She's there for her mom. I don't know. Because I'm telling you, if my mom was getting roasted like that, I'd be like, bitch. Yeah, who are you? Yeah. Yeah, I know. Yeah. Anywho, all right guys, so currently we are going to talk about quickly the summer house drama. Yep. So essentially what has happened, as you are all aware, we have Kyle COOKE commenting on a photo dump that West West Wilson posted. Yep. And essentially says, You're a coke head that ruined my ex's life and career. Yep. West replied to a different comment, basically insinuating that Kyle was controlling. Yeah. And then Amanda responded to that person with a bullseye. Like, yep, exactly. Mm-hmm. So then Kyle came out, I think it was this morning. But also Amanda was taking shots at Kyle by saying, Someone said those puppies look really thin. please give the dogs back to Kyle. And Amanda said he doesn't want THEM. Yeah, you think that's true? I don't Probably because Kyle is DJing and shit faced every single day. Those dogs should never go with Kyle. That person who comments is a fucking idiot. Yeah. Can't have dogs when you're a DJ? No, I don't think he should, but to say he doesn't want them, that's like that doesn't sound great. No, just like that was just do you think he d doesn't want them or do you think he's just responsible? But also I don't know. I don't know. But Kyle then came out today being like, I there were emotions were running hot when I did that. However, HALI pointed out that this was also around the time that it was disclosed that they're not Amanda and West are officially definitely not filming for Summer House, obviously, or in the city. Which Amanda then publicly said to someone in a comment that the reason she's not filming in the city is because of the public hate. And not that West isn't a part of it. Yeah. Right. Well, I I think they go hand in hand. It's like the hate would be too much on your own if you had your person. But don't you want A COMEBACK? But then you would get more hate, but don't you get I know. All right, guys. Yeah. It has been a doozy of a day. It has. I hope everybody has a safe, happy Halloween. By the time you heard this, it will be three days after Halloween. It will be November. So happy November. Happy November. And we'll see you on the flip side in another week. Ta-ta. Later. Bye.