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What is the Doctrine of Imminency? · The Week in Bible Prophecy

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  Speaker 1: The Week in Bible Prophecy, a Prophecy Watchers podcast.
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  Speaker 2: So JB. Welcome here to our podcast, and we're talking
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  Speaker 2: about different topics, especially related to the Preacher Rapture. And
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  Speaker 2: one of the ones that I think anybody that reads
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  Speaker 2: Scripture or is looking to come to after exte Jesus,
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  Speaker 2: they're studying the Bible and they come to the plate
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  Speaker 2: of understanding that the Preacher rapture deals with something called imminency.
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  Speaker 2: That's kind of a fancy word for some What is imminency?
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  Speaker 2: How is it connected? What's the biblical background?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, So, imminency is a foundational doctrine related to the rapture,
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  Speaker 3: and we believe it's it's clearly taught in scripture and
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  Speaker 3: it is simply the belief that the rapture could happen
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  Speaker 3: at any moment. Doesn't mean it's going to happen at
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  Speaker 3: a certain time where you can pick a date or
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  Speaker 3: predict a date, but it means it could happen at
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  Speaker 3: any moment imminency. And a lot of people confuse it
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  Speaker 3: with other similar sounding words that aren't the right word,
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  Speaker 3: but it's I am am, I am not then see why,
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  Speaker 3: meaning at any moment and so the rapture could have
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  Speaker 3: happened at any time in Church age history. Nothing there
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  Speaker 3: are no prophecies that must be fulfilled prior to the rapture.
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  Speaker 3: So in other words, we can't sit around and say, oh, well,
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  Speaker 3: the Temple hasn't been rebuilt yet, so I know the
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  Speaker 3: rapture's not going to happen today. Or this hasn't happened,
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  Speaker 3: or that hasn't happened, so I know the rapture can't
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  Speaker 3: happen today. No, it could happen at any moment. And
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  Speaker 3: we derive that from really a theological synthesis, not so
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  Speaker 3: much from a single chapter and verse. We don't have
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  Speaker 3: a thus say that the Lord the rapture is imminent,
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  Speaker 3: but we clearly have the teaching that the next event
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  Speaker 3: on the timeline of God's prophetic plant is the rapture
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  Speaker 3: and everything else comes after that. And since the rapture
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  Speaker 3: is a signless event, there's nothing again that says this
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  Speaker 3: has to happen first. Like, for example, in the back
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  Speaker 3: of my book What Lies Ahead, which is over your
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  Speaker 3: biblical prophecy, I have a appendix called Sequential Order of
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  Speaker 3: End Times Events. Well, what do you think is the
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  Speaker 3: number one item on that list the rapture, right, that's
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  Speaker 3: what happens next, and so by definition it means it
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  Speaker 3: could happen anytime because it's a signless event. So there
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  Speaker 3: are biblical proofs that we can theologically make the case for.
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  Speaker 3: For example, the big one is proving that the church
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  Speaker 3: will not face the wrath of God. Step one, step two.
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  Speaker 3: Then you prove that the seven year Tribulation in its
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  Speaker 3: entirety constitutes the prophetic wrath of God. This is where
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  Speaker 3: the pre wrathers get off. They say, no, no, parts
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  Speaker 3: of the tribulation aren't wrath, and the wrath didn't come
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  Speaker 3: until later. The problem with that is Revelation six' one
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  Speaker 3: the anti or six to Two antichrist is, unveiled and
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  Speaker 3: they're already hiding from the wrath Of god with the sealed.
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  Speaker 3: Judgments so the wrath Of god is the entire seven year.
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  Speaker 3: Tribulation it's variously referred to as The Great day of
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  Speaker 3: The Lord's, wrath the day Of, wrath the Overflowing, scourge
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  Speaker 3: the time Of Jacob's, Trouble daniel seventieth. Week you got
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  Speaker 3: all kinds of terms for that seven year period throughout
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  Speaker 3: The Old, testament and once you've demonstrated that that's the,
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  Speaker 3: wrath and that the church doesn't go through the. Wrath
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  Speaker 3: they've got to be out of here. Beforehand SO i
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  Speaker 3: think it's it's clearly defensible and teach taught in, scripture
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  Speaker 3: but it's more of a theological.
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  Speaker 2: Concept, well does any of the thief language you think
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  Speaker 2: contribute either by application or to the idea of a
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  Speaker 2: thief coming as a surprise or being at a time
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  Speaker 2: of being Annown do you think that that has any.
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  Speaker 3: APPLICATIONS i in my chapter on, imminency we actually bring
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  Speaker 3: in those. Verses i'll come back to the thief and
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  Speaker 3: some of those in a, Moment but there are some
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  Speaker 3: where it talks about eagerly expecting or at the end
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  Speaker 3: of The bible last verse in The, bible Come Lord
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  Speaker 3: jesus Or, marinatha.
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  Speaker 2: Right as we see the day approaching whatever.
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  Speaker 3: Rate, yeah so if it wasn't, emminent those exhortations would be.
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  Speaker 3: Meaningless why would you eagerly wait for something that you
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  Speaker 3: know is not going to happen for one hundred?
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  Speaker 2: Years?
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  Speaker 3: Right if it's you, know IF i know my grandparents
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  Speaker 3: are coming to Visit tuesday, Afternoon i'm not going to
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  Speaker 3: tell my kids go wait by the window On, monday
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  Speaker 3: because you're. Great you, KNOW i know it's not going
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  Speaker 3: to be least twenty four hours till they get, here.
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  Speaker 3: Right so all of these passages that use opic dekamai
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  Speaker 3: as The greek, word which by the, way it's used
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  Speaker 3: seven times in The New, testament and all seven times
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  Speaker 3: it refers to the, rapture so eagerly awaiting implies. Imminency
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  Speaker 3: it would make no sense otherwise as far as the
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  Speaker 3: watchfulness passages in for, example The all Of it, discourse
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  Speaker 3: AND i know you've said, that, YEAH i, mean but
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  Speaker 3: in other, Places, yeah the issue we don't want to
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  Speaker 3: hang our hat on imminency with that because those same
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  Speaker 3: terminologies are used of The Second, coming which clearly is not.
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  Speaker 3: Imminent in other, words a second. Coming they're all kinds
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  Speaker 3: of signs and things that must happen before, it the
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  Speaker 3: abomination Of desola being chief among, them battle of armourged
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  Speaker 3: and those types of. Things so you, know the exhortation
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  Speaker 3: to watchfulness of the Second coming is in the context
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  Speaker 3: of the fact that it'll be a time of unprecedented,
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  Speaker 3: deception and even Though israel should have understood and predicted
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  Speaker 3: it and recognize that it's, coming they will still be
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  Speaker 3: caught up and mis. Led so there are different reasons
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  Speaker 3: to be adjoined to. Watchfulness but clearly the opic decamai
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  Speaker 3: and the eagerly awaiting and some of those passages employer.
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  Speaker 2: Eminence, yeah that's kind of WHERE i land to is
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  Speaker 2: in those those some of those scriptures that talk about
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  Speaker 2: kind of a surprise at an hour you don't. Expect,
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  Speaker 2: WELL i see that as contrary to The Second, coming
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  Speaker 2: Where jesus, says you, know, hey when you see these,
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  Speaker 2: things you, know so that you can kind of see
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  Speaker 2: the build. Up but let's go back to. Something BECAUSE
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  Speaker 2: i would always trick the church WHEN i would teach
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  Speaker 2: on this Is i'd, say how many of you believe
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  Speaker 2: That jesus can return tomorrow and set up as earthly?
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  Speaker 2: KINGDOM i would, say, no, no, Yeah but they, Realized,
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  Speaker 2: see they failed to understand the distinction between the preacher,
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  Speaker 2: rapture which is, imminent and the Second, coming which is
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  Speaker 2: well laid out in the sense of AND i, go,
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  Speaker 2: hey this is.
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  Speaker 3: Why this is one of.
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  Speaker 2: The reasons why we recognize that we're taught or so
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  Speaker 2: often that, Hey jesus can come Back jesus come, back
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  Speaker 2: but he can't come back tomorrow because otherwise scripture has
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  Speaker 2: to be.
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  Speaker 3: Fulfilled, Absolutely, yeah there's a lead up, clearly The daniel's
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  Speaker 3: four hundred and ninety year, plan which is the key
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  Speaker 3: to Understanding bible, prophecy as Doctor walbard would, say you,
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  Speaker 3: know has been, suspended and there's a gap between the
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  Speaker 3: four and eighty third year and the start of the
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  Speaker 3: four and eighty fourth, year between the sixty ninth week of.
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  Speaker 3: YEARS a shabuua means a seven year. Period it can
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  Speaker 3: mean a seven day. Period but if you compare scripture scripture,
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  Speaker 3: context all these determined meaning and it you, know in
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  Speaker 3: this Context daniel was talking about, years talking about seventy
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  Speaker 3: years That Jeremiah brovid, side so he, says, no it's
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  Speaker 3: a seven next four hundred and ninety or seventy times.
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  Speaker 3: Seven so shabu it's the same word that's used when
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  Speaker 3: who was. It jacob had to work For rachel and
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  Speaker 3: he had to work for a shabu and then he
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  Speaker 3: pulled the old switcher ru and he had to work
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  Speaker 3: for another shehbua right because he Got leah at. First so,
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  Speaker 3: ANYWAY i know we're about out of. Time BUT i
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  Speaker 3: just wanted to clarify. That you know that Seventieth week Of,
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  Speaker 3: daniel you, know The daniel nine itself demands a gap of.
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  Speaker 3: Time we don't come back and put that in. It you,
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  Speaker 3: know there's clearly after this some things will, happen and
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  Speaker 3: then after that the peace treaty will be, signed so
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  Speaker 3: that has to be. Fulfilled so you're, right The Second
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  Speaker 3: coming is by no means. Eminent we know when it's
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  Speaker 3: going to, happen but yet Many jews will still be
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  Speaker 3: called off or just like they were in the first.
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  Speaker 3: Century but the rapture is absolutely, imminent which is why
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  Speaker 3: we're told to be.
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  Speaker 2: Watching there's A i always think in terms of if
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  Speaker 2: you were A jewish, person maybe not in the church,
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  Speaker 2: whatever but understanding Some New covenant, Theology New testament theology
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  Speaker 2: that between seventy a. D in nineteen forty eight you
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  Speaker 2: would have you'd be, like, oh because there's this gap
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  Speaker 2: where there's No, israel that the temple has obviously been.
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  Speaker 2: Gone but once in that period IT'S i always call
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  Speaker 2: it like a gap, period not for the, rapture because
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  Speaker 2: the rapture could happen in, there but in the sense
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  Speaker 2: of that your. Excitement you'd be, like, WELL i can't
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  Speaker 2: be excited When i'm living in eighteen sixty or even
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  Speaker 2: seventeen twenty because there's No, israel there's no. Temple but
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  Speaker 2: yet you read it and you're, like, wow who knows
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  Speaker 2: when this is going to. Happen so we recognize that
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  Speaker 2: the distinction has to be there between The Second coming
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  Speaker 2: and the.
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  Speaker 3: Rapture, yeah no, Question, yeah and for nineteen forty eight
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  Speaker 3: will open the. Door it exciting dime.
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  Speaker 2: And sixty seven so, yeah, right and. Sixties this is.
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