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Austin Ekeler Talks RB Market + Keenan Allen & Mike Williams Talk Justin Herbert vs. Philip Rivers · Bussin' With The Boys

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to another episode of Busting with Your Busting with
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  Speaker 1: the Boys. I'm your host, will come thum. We got
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  Speaker 1: the boys in the bag, Jack Mitch Taylor. The boys
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  Speaker 1: out in Canada right now, battling fires apparently out in
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  Speaker 1: Western I think Western. I don't want to butcher at
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  Speaker 1: Western BC. Like there's a lot of wildfires and fires
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  Speaker 1: going on. The boy they had to evacuate. My wife
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  Speaker 1: was on a bachorette out in California, out in Palm Springs.
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  Speaker 1: Her flag gets canceled yesterday because of the hurricane situation.
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  Speaker 1: So places are flooded out there. People aren't able to
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  Speaker 1: get out. There's a lot of shit going on the
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  Speaker 1: West Coast. It's thankful to be in a landlocked state
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  Speaker 1: like Tennessee, be in the middle of the country where
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  Speaker 1: you can stay away from all the danger. Before we
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  Speaker 1: And like many of you, the boys have been hitting
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  Speaker 1: the road a lot lately. We're actually gonna be hitting
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  Speaker 1: the road a lot come this fall, especially in September.
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  Speaker 1: I think we're busy all four or five weeks, I
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  Speaker 1: believe for our fall tailgate tour, which we can get into.
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  Speaker 1: So shout out to all.
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  Speaker 2: The boys out there.
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  Speaker 1: Game recognizes game, and I know there's a lot of
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  Speaker 1: We're going out to Nebraska for the bust and Bowl
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  Speaker 1: in week five. I know there's gonna be a lot
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  Speaker 1: Busting with the Boys. Guys, if you're watching on YouTube
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  Speaker 1: I know we're gonna have probably a lot of Chargers
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  Speaker 1: fans tuned in. Oh, somebody's calling me. Actually have to
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  Speaker 1: not take it right now. There's probably gonna be a
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  Speaker 1: lot of Chargers fan tuned in. But we are almost
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  Speaker 1: two four hundred thousand subscribers. That is fucking insane the
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  Speaker 1: growth that's happened. Shout out to the boys in the back, Jack, Mitch, JP, Garrett,
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  Speaker 1: all the boys who have been a part of growing
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  Speaker 1: this thing. Dude, four hundred thousand subscribers is insane, is
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  Speaker 1: truly insane.
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  Speaker 2: Mitch.
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  Speaker 1: I know you and JP said down at the beginning
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  Speaker 1: of the year, or we're going over Hey, let's reach
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  Speaker 1: reach for ambitious fucking goals, goals that we might not touch,
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  Speaker 1: but let's paint something. Let's just paint a picture and
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  Speaker 1: fucking go after something. I know you guys had a
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  Speaker 1: very ambitious goal of seven hundred and fifty thousand by
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  Speaker 1: the end of the year. Also with a realistic goal
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  Speaker 1: you like to call it a five hundred thousand by
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  Speaker 1: the end of the year. Right now, it seems like
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  Speaker 1: we're on pace, but you guys have been fucking murdering it.
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  Speaker 2: Man with a with a big fall coming up.
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  Speaker 3: I think there's a chance we could reach our not
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  Speaker 3: the very ambitious goal of fifty k, but five hundred
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  Speaker 3: thousand I think is definitely in the cards, and especially
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  Speaker 3: for what it looks like we have playning this fall,
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  Speaker 3: I'm feeling pretty good about it.
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  Speaker 1: I know, man, it's one of those things. Hey, I
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  Speaker 1: have to take this phone call. I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 4: What did you end on saying we might be able
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  Speaker 4: to hit that goal?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: I was saying, how with everything we have playing in
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  Speaker 3: the fall, there's definitely a chance that we could be
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  Speaker 3: hitting that five hundred k.
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  Speaker 1: You gotta get I know, dude, that push, just the
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  Speaker 1: push from the different fan bases.
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  Speaker 4: We're gonna be doing a lot of shit this year.
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  Speaker 2: I know.
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  Speaker 1: We're doing our fall tailgate tour where we're going to
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  Speaker 1: six different colleges.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah it's six, yes, six stops, but they haven't been
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  Speaker 2: announced yet.
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  Speaker 4: They have not and there's still time, like we need.
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  Speaker 1: If you're watching right now and you want the boys
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  Speaker 1: to come by, come to your guys' college game, drop
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  Speaker 1: it in the chat of where he wants to go.
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  Speaker 1: The only thing we have kind of locked in right
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  Speaker 1: now is the Bust and Bowl. That's week five, Michigan
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  Speaker 1: at Nebraska. We will be in Lincoln. We will be
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  Speaker 1: at Memorial Stadium, but we have not announced. We're still
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  Speaker 1: kind of working through the stops are gonna go to.
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  Speaker 1: We're bringing the bus. We bought an extra bus so
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  Speaker 1: that way we could drive it and only gets up
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  Speaker 1: to fifty five.
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  Speaker 4: It's got a hole in the middle of the floor.
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  Speaker 1: But the boys we found it somewhere down in the
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  Speaker 1: uh somewhere in the sticks of Georgia for sale on Craigslist.
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  Speaker 2: We bought that thing.
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  Speaker 1: We're now we're going through a lot of hoops, insurance wise,
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  Speaker 1: and everything else to get this thing on the road.
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  Speaker 1: But we will be going on the Fall Tailgate tour.
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  Speaker 1: We got the bus and ball. Like I said, we're
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  Speaker 1: gonna be in some stuff at the pro level as well.
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  Speaker 1: Obviously we got the Tysontown Taylor. The Boy obviously is
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  Speaker 1: a Titan through and through. So we'll be doing stuff
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  Speaker 1: here locally. And yeah, man, I hope we fucking do bro.
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  Speaker 1: I hope, Like dude, if we hit seven hundred and
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  Speaker 1: fifty thousand subscribers on YouTube, that would be nuts, man.
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  Speaker 1: So hey, tell your group, chests, tell your friends, tell
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  Speaker 1: the boys that we need everybody. It's gonna take everybody.
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  Speaker 1: We did some cool interviews this last week right when
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  Speaker 1: we got back from Italy. We hit the ground running
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  Speaker 1: the next day, flying out to LA. We got out
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  Speaker 1: to LA We got to sit down and go to
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  Speaker 1: the Chargers training camp.
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  Speaker 2: We gotta go.
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  Speaker 1: We got to go to the Raiders training We got
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  Speaker 1: to do, got to do some collapse with some cool podcasts,
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  Speaker 1: The Fighter and the Kid.
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  Speaker 2: That one is out.
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  Speaker 1: I would assume the Bad Friends pod that we did
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  Speaker 1: with Santino and Bobby Lee, that'll be out this week.
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  Speaker 1: I would assume if not, that one will be out soon.
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  Speaker 1: And then we also I had to fly out on
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  Speaker 1: Thursday after the Richison Show. We got to go on
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  Speaker 1: the Rich Eisen Show, which was the coolest fucking thing
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  Speaker 1: in the world. Been watching that dude since I was
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  Speaker 1: just a little pup and now seeing him, like I
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  Speaker 1: don't know, just getting to be on his set and
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  Speaker 1: everything else.
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  Speaker 4: It's just one of those like damn, this is this
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  Speaker 4: is fucking awesome.
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  Speaker 1: And then the Boy the Boys got to go out
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  Speaker 1: to Steve O's house and sit down with Steve O's
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  Speaker 1: so that interview will come.
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  Speaker 4: But sometime in the future.
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  Speaker 1: We got a lot of things we're working through right now,
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  Speaker 1: some cool segments we're trying to build out for the fall.
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  Speaker 1: We got a new show coming out this fall, which
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  Speaker 1: will be announced soon. We fucking bet the buses coming back.
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  Speaker 1: We got new merch coming out, new new uh the
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  Speaker 1: Boys theme merch for this year for college teams, NFL teams.
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  Speaker 1: You know how we start small until we can build
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  Speaker 1: demand somewhere else. So the Boys got a lot, a
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  Speaker 1: lot of irons in the fire right now. We probably
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  Speaker 1: need to bring somebody else on board. But anyway, we
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  Speaker 1: had a hell of a week out in LA that.
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  Speaker 2: Was all time.
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  Speaker 1: I want to say it was on what was it
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  Speaker 1: Wednesday where we kind of had like the twelve hour day.
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  Speaker 1: It felt like, I mean, we had a lot of
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  Speaker 1: fun in between. Then we hit Are Tough, but Wednesday
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  Speaker 1: was like we obviously went out and hit the arcade
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  Speaker 1: and play some mini golf. We were out in the
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  Speaker 1: sun right because we did ray Or, we did The
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  Speaker 1: Fighter and the Kid. Then we went out to the
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  Speaker 1: Raiders training camp. By the way, sitting down with coach McDaniels,
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  Speaker 1: that one's gonna come out next week. The way we're
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  Speaker 1: gonna roll them out this episode. Austin Eckler, Mike Williams,
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  Speaker 1: and Keenan Allen. We said down with those three. They
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  Speaker 1: were combined forty like around forty minutes, when only got
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  Speaker 1: to talk to Austin for like ten minutes. It sucks
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  Speaker 1: because I really wanted to get into the running back
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  Speaker 1: market stuff. Mike Williams and Keenan Allen they joined us.
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  Speaker 1: They'll be rolling out today and then on Thursday. You
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  Speaker 1: can expect to see us again on Thursday. We'll be
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  Speaker 1: dropping the Derwin James interview on Thursday, and the next
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  Speaker 1: Tuesday you will see Coach McDaniel from The Raiders. He
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  Speaker 1: was honestly a lot of fun to sit down with.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't know what to expect those low key a
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  Speaker 1: little nervous My boy a Merebdula just said they got
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  Speaker 1: done not having the greatest practice in the world. So
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  Speaker 1: he's kind of got that light about him that he's
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  Speaker 1: a little bit of a stiff.
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  Speaker 4: He was not at all sitting with us.
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  Speaker 1: I think this interview that comes out with Coach mcdamzels,
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  Speaker 1: I think a lot of people are gonna like it
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  Speaker 1: and enjoy it.
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  Speaker 4: But that's kind of what you guys can look forward to.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, we got to hit the Raiders' training camp
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  Speaker 1: and then that day we had to stay up north
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  Speaker 1: in northern La, so we hit mini golf. We're playing
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  Speaker 1: the arcade, We're sweating our fucking asses off, and then
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  Speaker 1: we go and do Bad Friends pot at like seven
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  Speaker 1: pm at night, seven thirty at night.
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  Speaker 4: Finally get back to the hotel like ten.
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  Speaker 1: You know, we have to drive like forty minutes back
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  Speaker 1: down where a hotel was fortunately missing all the it
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  Speaker 1: was after all the traffic. But we had a bit
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  Speaker 1: of a day on Wednesday, hit it Thursday morning with
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  Speaker 1: the richis and show and then was out.
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  Speaker 2: But it was a hell of a week. Man.
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  Speaker 4: Now we got back into the swing of things. I
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  Speaker 4: get back.
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  Speaker 1: My wife's gone for her bachelorette party for the weekend,
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  Speaker 1: storm rolling solo dad duty all weekend.
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  Speaker 4: I log and a half hours on my garment of sleep.
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  Speaker 1: One night, boys, I fell asleep crashing on the couch
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  Speaker 1: at like nine point thirty and didn't wake up until
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  Speaker 1: like five The next morning, went over, went over to
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  Speaker 1: my bed, slept till about eight thirty. But it felt
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  Speaker 1: like I can't remember the last time I've slept ten
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  Speaker 1: and a half hours, slept really past I usually struggle
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  Speaker 1: to sleep like past eight o'clock, but I don't know
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  Speaker 1: the last time I've logged like an actual ten and
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  Speaker 1: a half hours. But hella fun weekend, get a little
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  Speaker 1: weekend with the daughter with Rudeley, and now we're we're
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  Speaker 1: back kicking this week. Boys, we got some stuff. We
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  Speaker 1: got some segments coming up. Shout out, I know for
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  Speaker 1: Trophy Game. And speaking of being out in the ra
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  Speaker 1: at the Raiders' training camp out in La Josh Jacobs
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  Speaker 1: just signed.
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  Speaker 2: I think he's going back.
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  Speaker 1: The rumor is, are the articles that are coming out
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  Speaker 1: right now, is that Josh is going back to training camp.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm fired up because we need the boys
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  Speaker 1: firing on all cylinders.
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  Speaker 4: We need the Silver and Black rolling this football season.
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  Speaker 1: I think Josh Jacobs is one of the best, if
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  Speaker 1: not the best running back in the league right now,
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  Speaker 1: especially with the numbers he put up last year. I
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  Speaker 1: know he was wanting to hold out for a long
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  Speaker 1: term deal or a longer deal. The whole running back
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  Speaker 1: market in general, That's why I can't wait for you
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  Speaker 1: guys to listen to Austin Eckler coming up. But the
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  Speaker 1: whole running back market in general has been kind of like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, vocalizing their their concerns about the the the
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  Speaker 1: devaluing of the running back over time. You had guys
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  Speaker 1: going into this offseason back when they had the FaceTime call,
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  Speaker 1: when the running backs were kind of stand up and
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  Speaker 1: vocalizing their their concerns and and uh and frustration. You
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  Speaker 1: had Dalvin Cook, not Austin Eckler, he's up after next year.
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  Speaker 1: But you had Dalvin Cook, Saquon Barkley, Josh Jacobs, anybody
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  Speaker 1: else that was uh that was looking for a deal,
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  Speaker 1: Ezekiel Elliott.
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  Speaker 2: You had four go ahead Mitch maybe I know he
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  Speaker 2: was like kind of up and now that he is there.
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  Speaker 1: Anymore, right, you kind of get to be the feature back,
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  Speaker 1: the main back.
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  Speaker 2: Uh.
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  Speaker 1: You had those four backs, Zeke, Dalvin Cook, sa Kwon
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  Speaker 1: and Josh kind of hole down doing their thing, being
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  Speaker 1: hopeful for long term deals. But obviously the back and
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  Speaker 1: forth here all of those running backs got one year deals,
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  Speaker 1: some soft one year deals. I want to say, Dalvin
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  Speaker 1: and Zeke, we're like in that four to six range
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  Speaker 1: for a year. Saquon, I want to say, he signed
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  Speaker 1: a one year for like ten and ten and some change. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: But did he sign the tag or did they just
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  Speaker 1: modify the one year deal. Maybe you signed the tag
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  Speaker 1: and then you modify. I have no fucking clue. And
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  Speaker 1: it seems like Josh Jacobs is about to be in
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  Speaker 1: the same boat. All running backs were hopeful they could
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  Speaker 1: get long term deals done. It seems like you chalk
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  Speaker 1: this one up as the owners. You know, the leverage
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  Speaker 1: is hard. Man Quon was in a podcast recently talking
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  Speaker 1: about you could just say fuck it, like fuck the
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  Speaker 1: team and fuck ownership and everything else and hold out
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  Speaker 1: because your leverage is you playing right. But at the
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  Speaker 1: same time, you're in the most selfless team game there is,
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  Speaker 1: and there's a part of you that doesn't want to
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  Speaker 1: do anything. There's a big part of you that doesn't
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  Speaker 1: want to do that because you don't want to send
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  Speaker 1: that message to the team because even though it's you
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  Speaker 1: negotiating against the ownership, right it's like it's you negotiating
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  Speaker 1: for your deal. You still have the internal the internal
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  Speaker 1: conversations that go on amongst the players, amongst the coaches
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  Speaker 1: that just some guys can feel slight as some guys
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  Speaker 1: can It's like, man, at what point is enough money
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  Speaker 1: and enough? Like, hey, we're we're looking to the future
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  Speaker 1: of the running back here trying to save the running
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  Speaker 1: back like species as a whole. But how far do
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  Speaker 1: you go to try and do that without sending the
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  Speaker 1: wrong message and not even that, but playing in the
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  Speaker 1: window that you can play in, Like the NFL stands
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  Speaker 1: for not for long, but the shelf life as an
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  Speaker 1: NFL player is very small, and it's like, how far
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  Speaker 1: are you willing to go to try and acquire a
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  Speaker 1: contract that you feel like is necessary for the running
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  Speaker 1: back market to kind of value itself back up in
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  Speaker 1: the ranks.
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  Speaker 4: Data doesn't like play into their hands.
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  Speaker 1: It's like when you get past that second contract, or
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  Speaker 1: when you get past that first contract, the tread on
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  Speaker 1: the tire, it thins out. Man, It's like, how much
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  Speaker 1: Dereck Henry's basically the only running back to prove that
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  Speaker 1: you get better in the second contract. I'm not saying
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  Speaker 1: that running backs aren't fucking great in the second contract,
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  Speaker 1: but it's one of those things like Derek's one specimen
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  Speaker 1: that's kind of proving the okay, he still can put
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  Speaker 1: up two thousand yard scenes and everything else. I think
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  Speaker 1: this year will be a big year that will play
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  Speaker 1: into that data. It's like the guys like Austin Eckler,
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  Speaker 1: Derrick Henry, Saquan Josh Jacobs, Ezekiel Elliott, these type of
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  Speaker 1: backs that were absolute studs in their earlier years when
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  Speaker 1: they're getting these long term deals, you need them to
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  Speaker 1: still perform like fucking studs, like horses in their later
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  Speaker 1: twenties to help that data show that, hey, the running
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  Speaker 1: back can carry that type of load. Because we stay
• 14:24
  Speaker 1: with Austin and I wish again, I wish we had
• 14:26
  Speaker 1: more time with Austin and very smart cat. You see
• 14:30
  Speaker 1: that he's very business savvy, is savvy. He understands the
• 14:34
  Speaker 1: complexities that come with the running back market and the
• 14:38
  Speaker 1: value and the businesses and the ownership being an owner
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: versus being an employee. And Austin says a lot of
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: good stuff. But Austin's story is a great example of
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: not necessarily running back by committee. But there's some hungry
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: motherfuckers that are out there that's just waiting on the
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: opportunity to get their shot.
• 14:55
  Speaker 2: Austin is one of those examples.
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: Because you go back to where Melvin Gordon was holding
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: out for a deal at the time because he wanted
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: a bigger deal for the running back.
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: I wanted to say, maybe.
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: Who's old boy from from the Arizona Cardinals at the time,
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: David Johnson might have gotten a big deal. I can't remember.
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: Somebody got something. I want to say Melvin Gordon wanted
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: something like that. Maybe it was Ezekiel Elliott and Melvin
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: was holding out for something more right. He was kind
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: of like trying to leverage his ability. He's coming off
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: of a prime year and was trying to leverage himself
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: in those times where he was holding out. A guy
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: like Austin Eckler, an undrafted, fucking free agent that's cutting
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: his teeth on special teams and realize he can tote
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: the rock around the team. Realize he can tote the
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: rock round in training camp. Because when your starter's gone
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: and your best abilities availability, when somebody's gone, you're next up.
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: That next man up mentality, there's gonna be a hungry
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: motherfucker or a diamond in the rough. At some point
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: along the way, a story like Austin Ecklers proves that
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: that he comes in, he overtakes that job.
• 15:53
  Speaker 4: He becomes the mainstay of running back.
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: He becomes like the dude it all running back, run,
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: pass catch, put his face in the fan in pass ball,
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: pass pro and all that. And then you find yourself
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: that the game's gonna go on and go with or
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: without you. Austin's now gonna position himself of being an
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: old head and being somebody who's got to kind of
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: carry that towards for those perennial backs that can be
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: older and still tote the rock. But it's just interesting
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: because ultimately, like guys got to look out for themselves.
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: You got to take those you got to take those
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: contracts when you feel like you can. I'm saying all
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: that because Josh Jacobs he was holding out I would
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: assume for three to.
• 16:27
  Speaker 4: Five year deal.
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: Maybe he possibly wanted maybe a longer term deal, and
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: maybe there was something on the table. I know we
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: were there at their training camp. It sounded like there
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: was something on the table at some point in time.
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: And he doesn't see that contract. He doesn't get that
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: because they couldn't agree to terms before that July seventeenth,
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: franchise tag date June seventeenth, somewhere in the summer. Then
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: when you miss that opportunity to get a longer term deal,
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: it is now signed the franchise tag or get on
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: a one year deal at most. So Josh is now
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: in a position where he plays on this tag. Hopefully
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: he knocks it out of the fucking park. To where
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: he can look at getting a multi year deal, but
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: if not, you play yourself out of that contract that
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: you could have gotten, where you miss money. That's why
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: it's it's always such a tough spot to be in
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: as a player because you've got to bet on yourself.
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: Owners.
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: They're not going anywhere. They know the ball is gonna
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: continue to balance, they know that the rosters are gonna
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: look different year and in year out. They're not going anywhere.
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: Their shelf life is as long as they want it
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: to be. So it's just tough negotiating against time, for
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: your for the boys, for yourself, balancing it all. But
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: I'm fired up Josh's back in camp obviously because I'm
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: root for the Silver and Black this year. I'm not
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: sitting in the seat of being a fan watching the
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: boys unless a call shakes up in December or January,
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: like I was talking about with the head.
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: Coaching GM while we're out there in Vegas.
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: But so you guys will love the conversation we had
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: with Austin, Keenan and Mike that'll be coming up. Let's
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  Speaker 3: My shout out no free shout out this week goes
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: to this is technically week zero of college football season.
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: We do not.
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: We have college football every Saturday from now until January,
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: which is absolutely unreal. So my shout out goes to
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: those college football hype videos that you watch to get
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: ready for the season. I know, I personally used to
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: watch them before my games. Oh yeah, you would just
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: be sitting on the bus like juiced up, getting goosebumps and.
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: Stuff, and there we read.
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: It just fires you up so much to get out
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: there and just like play football. Like I'll still watch
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: them nowadays just to get ready to sit on my
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: couch and watch it. But there might be a college
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: football high video coming out of Busting for or College
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: Football Tour canne Foreshadows.
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: Do stuff about that. I do like a good motivational video.
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: I haven't seen it yet, but it's in the Lab
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: of Cooking.
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: Really yeah, I do love that. And you say, watch
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: get hyped up just to sit on your couch. No, man,
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: there's like a there's a nostalgia that comes watching a
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: fucking motivational video like that, and you watch back in
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: the day when you know, in August, when the paths
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: are popping and fall Camp was happening. Maybe like me
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: back in middle school, Headstrong was getting hype. Like you
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: get a song that just pulls you in, that brings
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: you back to a moment when you were fucking lacing
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: up where they're putting on the paths, getting on the
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: court doesn't fucking matter, and it just fires you the
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: fuck up that you yeah, get to sit on the
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: couch and root for your favorite team, but it brings
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: you back to a moment to where it gives you
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: that nostalgia, missing it and knowing that the season is here,
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: like the weather's here and everything else, and you're fired
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: up to be hanging with the boys or whoever you're around,
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: just to get motivated and verbally assault some people at
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: the television and dropping the group chats and throw your
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: sack there on the table and let him know that
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: you won in fantasy football, like the air is coming, bro.
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: I love that shout out amongst us.
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: It is amongst us, Jack, what do you.
• 21:10
  Speaker 5: Got kind of going off with mitches saying football's back,
• 21:14
  Speaker 5: but my shouting of your shout out.
• 21:16
  Speaker 6: Goes to parlays.
• 21:18
  Speaker 5: The gambling gods always are against us, but this weekend
• 21:23
  Speaker 5: also kind of a partial shout out shouting over your
• 21:25
  Speaker 5: shout out to Sean O'Malley, the bantamweight champion of the world.
• 21:30
  Speaker 6: I took a nice little parlay.
• 21:33
  Speaker 5: It was Sean O'Malley any any kind of win so knockout,
• 21:39
  Speaker 5: TKO or submission before two and a half rounds, and
• 21:43
  Speaker 5: it was like plus four eighty five. Put like fifty
• 21:47
  Speaker 5: bucks on it and won like four hundred dollars. So
• 21:50
  Speaker 5: it was it was a nice little treat on Saturday,
• 21:53
  Speaker 5: and I was I'm a big Sean O'Malley fan, so
• 21:56
  Speaker 5: just see him win.
• 21:57
  Speaker 6: The belt and also get a little coin on the side.
• 21:59
  Speaker 5: It was not so like I said, Football's right around
• 22:03
  Speaker 5: the corner. Cannot wait to be thrown out.
• 22:05
  Speaker 6: Bets.
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: Also nasty parlays.
• 22:07
  Speaker 6: Yeah we might be.
• 22:09
  Speaker 5: We might be having some parlays coming out here in
• 22:12
  Speaker 5: the next few months, along with some content, so stay
• 22:16
  Speaker 5: tuned with that. But yeah, shout out to winning a parlay.
• 22:19
  Speaker 5: It's kind of like cheats system.
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: Some of the boys getting in front of the camera
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: a little bit more with something we got cooking this fall.
• 22:25
  Speaker 5: We'll see, we'll see what goes on. But yeah, shout
• 22:27
  Speaker 5: out to to a nice wager.
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: Dude, I'm so excited to stay in that show up
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: and obviously build the hype for that, like it's gonna
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: be fun.
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: It's gonna be a great fucking time.
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: And also Big Cat, he tweeted it yesterday over the weekend,
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: the Pro Football Football Show, Your boy is coming on
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: as a co host. So I'm fired up as as
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: one of the main stays on the show with a
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: big Cat. I want to say Casey is is one
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: as well. I want to say Dave is gonna be involved,
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: Taylor's gonna be involved, Kyle Long, we got a like
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: a revolving fourth chair. We got a revolving fourth chair
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: with my Big Cat and Casey. But that's gonna be
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: a fucking good time. And I know last year, the
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: last two years they've had Dion Sanders on, So you
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: go from one Hall of Famer to the next. Very excited,
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: very excited to be on the Pro Football Football Show.
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: We're gonna be rolling around a lot this fall. And
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: it's gonna be exciting. I think we have the tailgate
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: tour stuff spaced out enough, start off hot in September,
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: then we get.
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: To sit back.
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: Maybe it's either one or two in October, but we
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: really get to pour into this Spootober and then we're
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: looking at you know, one or couple in November, and
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: again we're starting to iron those things out.
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: But we don't.
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: Last year we learn like how quickly like that flame
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: can burn at both ends when you're trying to get
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: absolutely everywhere. But we're gonna have a lot of fun
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: stuff happing man getting out and frequenting Chicago and everything else.
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: My shout out, I know, free shout out brought to
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• 23:54
  Speaker 1: when you sleep in and your infant doesn't wake up
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: until like you wake you hear him, sir, and I
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: heard Roostern at like eight thirty. Rue wakes up at
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: she usually we put her down at seven. She sleeps
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: till seven, but she's usually up at like six thirty
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: and then chills in the crib until about seven or
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: until we go up and get her and since mom's
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: out of town. It was just your boy. And when
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: I knocked out on the couch that night, I was
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: trying to stay up to watch the Sean O maleyfil
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: to watch the Chano Maley fight and that it's a
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: great shout out Jack because I'm fired up that he's
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: a champion. But I was trying to stay up and
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: watch that fight. Ended up dozing off and fall asleep,
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: but get it back in bed, like go go to
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: my bed at like five in the morning, thinking like
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: I'll probably just sleep. I felt kind of awake, but
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: I was I'll sleep a couple more hours and I'm
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: sure i'll wake up here at six thirty or seven.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: And when I start to hear rooster, like eight thirty
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: in the morning, and she's being cool, calm and collected,
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: like that's a that's a good feeling when you get
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: all of your sleep in as a parent and your
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: little one that isn't bothering you, they're not interrupting your sleep,
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: like they're not ready to go, and you're like, okay,
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: let's get going. Like she was just chilling and in
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: a good mood in her crib at like eight thirty
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: in the morning, so dad was fired up.
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: That's my shotow.
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: No free shot out is when you get when you
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: get to sleep in as a parent and your little
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: ones not making a fuss in the morning, and you
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: get to kind of still like enjoy your morning.
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: But that's my that's my shout out, no free shoutout.
• 25:10
  Speaker 5: Boys, it's someone who does not have kids at some
• 25:13
  Speaker 5: point probably will.
• 25:15
  Speaker 6: It scares me a lot.
• 25:16
  Speaker 5: Having to give up those precious moments of sleep on
• 25:19
  Speaker 5: like a weekend.
• 25:20
  Speaker 6: That's why I know I'm not ready to be a dad.
• 25:22
  Speaker 5: It's because I'm not ready to wake up at six
• 25:25
  Speaker 5: am and deal with a kid.
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: And that's okay, bro, that's okay. It's like it's like
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: people like man, you like, yeah, you gotta there's we're
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: all selfish. We're all selfish human beings, man, all of us.
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: We're all in our own world. We're all in our
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: own ego. We all want the ship to work out
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: our way. And when you do have a kid, like,
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: it's it's over your selfishness. Your selfishness is now you
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: have to pick your shots and windows. You have to
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: plan and organize. That's the one area where we've my
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: wife and I we've we've gotten a.
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: Lot better at is.
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: It's like utilizing calendar, which has been a learning curve
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: for your boy, but utilizing the calendar planning ahead, communicating
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: at all times. It's like this morning, I was like,
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: oh fuck, I saw in the calendar that we were
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: supposed to shot the intro ten And I'm sitting here like, hey,
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: I'll be in before a little bit before eleven. When
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: it's like Charles's flight got canceled and comes to Monday,
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: and now it's gonna get canceled till Tuesday. It's like, man,
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: I gotta remember to hit up the boys and let
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: him know whenever flights get canceled. I'm not gonna have that.
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: I can't get up at six to work out. I
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: have to wait. I have to wait until our babysitter
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: gets there, our nanny gets there at seven thirty, so
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: then I can go work out and then get all
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: that stuff in. But yeah, bro, trying to plan out
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: your selfishness throughout the week and the weekend.
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: It doesn't stop, like it's just never.
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: The key is.
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: Routine, Jack, And you'll know this when you're when you
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: become a parent.
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: I'm already becoming one of those older motherfuckers like, here's
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: the key, here's how you do it.
• 26:52
  Speaker 5: I'm not ready to be selfless for someone else. I
• 26:55
  Speaker 5: can be selfless, but not enough to bring someone into
• 26:59
  Speaker 5: the world.
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you lose it. You lose it.
• 27:02
  Speaker 5: Man.
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: You realize like you have to prioritize other ship. If not,
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: they'll be there'll.
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: Be some some lows somewhere, you know what I mean.
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: Like you might want your couple hours of freedom, but
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: it's got to be like structured out in a way
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: where I don't know. That's why I sneak off and
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: stay at the bus, tell about fucking as long as
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: I can. Then you go home, then you do the
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: then you do the dad thing until you put them down.
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: And then when you put them down, it's like you
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: got a decision to make to I want to separate
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: and go watch TV on my own and kind of
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: like beating myself, or do you build the relationship with
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: the wife, because then that's that's those are the times
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: where you get with the wife. Then you wake up
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: and you do it all over again. But yeah, bro,
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: you you kind of lose that. That's why it's uh
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: when you get to sleep in and get to kind
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: of like, oh man, I'm glad like a ruse being
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: cool and just kind of hanging in her care carib
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: right now, like she's having a good time with her
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: tiger and lion and stuffed animals in there.
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: That you get that selfishness a little bit back when
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: you probably do again like.
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: That, like yeah, listen listening to my boys who have
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: like older kids, man, Like you're going to soccer games
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: like your weekends are around them.
• 28:11
  Speaker 5: I mean I remember growing up playing like travel basketball
• 28:14
  Speaker 5: and like all the sports. And I have three other siblings,
• 28:17
  Speaker 5: so like my parents' lives were our lives.
• 28:20
  Speaker 6: They weren't their lives.
• 28:21
  Speaker 5: It was them taking us to practice and going to
• 28:24
  Speaker 5: extra like curricular school stuff. You know, making lunches is
• 28:28
  Speaker 5: just yeah, it doesn't stop it.
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: Making Man, you're so right, bro, Like yeah, like that's
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: you look back and you realize how much like your
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: parents actually do for you, or if money gets tight,
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: how you're now with a different family going to that
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: traveling going to that traveling tournament, staying with your buddy
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: thinking it's awesome. But now when you get older, you realize,
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: like all the sacrifices like your parents make just so
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: you can have a childhood like that to go to
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: all the games and go to all the weekends and
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: everything else. It's like in the future, you know, knock on,
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: way we keep this thing going and float and ascending,
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: like you're gonna have to play, Oh the soccer teraments
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: this weekend. You got this this weekend. Maybe dance this weekend.
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: Who knows what they're gonna be into. Maybe debate. We
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: got a little debate match up this weekend, four years
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: older on the debate team or some shit. But you
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: never know how it's gonna change. Man, It's just like
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: you're just in it. A lot of highs, a lot
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: of like, oh fuck, I gotta kind of like let
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: this go. I gotta I gotta like reprogram my brain
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: to think a little bit differently, because if you think
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: too much like selfishly, you're just gonna get pissed off
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: at everything else. Yeah, exactly, just mad like man, yeah,
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: oh fuck man.
• 29:36
  Speaker 6: Twisty Question of the week.
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: Oh, we want to get into the twisted question.
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: We got a twist the question before we get into
• 29:41
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• 29:45
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• 30:19
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• 30:22
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• 30:24
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• 30:28
  Speaker 1: I'm saying. But light goes one way, twist the tea
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: goes the other. They're fucking representing the boys. So go ahead,
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  Speaker 1: grab yourself a twisted the tea anywhere today. But this
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• 30:40
  Speaker 3: All right, so we cat we have two that we
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: can do here and we can pick which one we want. Okay,
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: first one, would you rather the ability to change the
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: past or see into the future?
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: Have only done one like that before? Okay? To me?
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: It be to me it'd be changed the past. Would
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: you either it be summer forever or winter forever? Oh?
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: I mean, and I said, I said for something. This
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: was more for like me. If you wanted it to
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: be fall forever or spring forever, we could do whatever one.
• 31:15
  Speaker 6: I think maybe fall in winter and spring and summer together.
• 31:19
  Speaker 6: I don't know. That's tough. That's so tough.
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: I think you have to do summer right.
• 31:32
  Speaker 6: No more football ever?
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: Why there's football? There's what do you know?
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: You're saying, like you get the phone. Oh you're saying
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: you get the months with it, like you only get
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: Are you just saying?
• 31:43
  Speaker 5: Well, yeah, I think that's the case. Like it's so
• 31:45
  Speaker 5: you only get what like the weather. It's not like
• 31:47
  Speaker 5: it's hot all year as cold a year.
• 31:49
  Speaker 6: It's like you get the.
• 31:50
  Speaker 4: End of November until what the beginning of March.
• 31:53
  Speaker 6: Yeah, that seems fair.
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: Or you get from like is it May to August, June, July, August,
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: one of the end of May, end of May, the
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: beginning of August.
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: For what summer summer. Yeah, summer really goes into like September.
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: My birthday's first day summer. When's your birthday?
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: June twenty first, that's the first day of summer.
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: That's no, that's bullshit.
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: First day of summer is first day.
• 32:25
  Speaker 5: No.
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: I believe that the fucking internet might say that the
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: first day of summer is June twenty first, but the.
• 32:31
  Speaker 4: First day of summer it is no later than June first.
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: I could argue some of the back half of some
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: of the back part of May, like whenever school is out,
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: summer summer is here.
• 32:41
  Speaker 6: I would agree that those first few weeks.
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: Of June, let's just say summer is officially now June first.
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: You're just saying like when it gets warm or no.
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying like that's just what it is. Sure, well,
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: I I yeah, I guess you got. I mean, if
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: it's if it's only the months I'm gonna go winter
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: then because you get football, I personally, I'm more of
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: a I would rather play in the in the cold
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: than play in the heat. I would rather be cold
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: than be hot, because I get extremely like I can
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: just get too antsy man, Like you can layer up
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: in the cold.
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: I think it's easy. It's easier to warm up than
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: it is to cold cool down. Yeah, you can always
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: put extra blankets on, extra sweatshirt, sweatpants, but you cannot
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: like once you like are in shorts and a T shirt.
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: Like you can just take your clothes off, but you
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: can still be hot with your clothes off.
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm gonna go ahead and say winter.
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna say winter, holiday season, playoff, football, super bowls,
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: still in still in the winter. You know what I'm saying,
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: What else do you need? But what else do you need?
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's the that's like the most uh. I
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: feel like when you have the most perspective, when you
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: have the most gratitude is when you're in holid season, enjoin.
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: The people you love.
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: Like, yeah it's a little cold outside, Yeah the winner
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: can be a little shitty, But I think that that's
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: what creates the mentality.
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: I'm with you. I agree, Sam, we're all going winter. Yeah,
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: you need to find another one where we disagree here, No,
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: I think that one solid.
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: I think people I think people think we're crazy for
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: doing winter. It actually reminds me of this poem I
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: was reading earlier. Let's see here. This poem is brought
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: to us by UH. Was shared by Brian Peters, a
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: great follow on Twitter Brian underscore Peters ten. But it's
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: a poem called good Timber by Douglas Malik. Listen to
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: this one, boys. The tree that never had to fight
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: for sun and sky and air and light, but stood
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: out in the open plane and always got its share
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: of rain, never became a forest king, but lived and
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: died a scrubby thing. The man who never had to
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: toil to gain and farm his patch of soil, who
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: never had to win his share of sun and sky
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: and light and air, never became a manly man, but
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: lived and died as he began. Good timber does not
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: grow with ease. The stronger wind, the stronger trees, the
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: further sky, the greater length, the more the storm, the
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: more the strength by sun and cold, by rain and snow.
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: In trees and men, good timbers grow where thickest lies
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: the forest growth. We find the patriarchs of both, and
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: they hold council with the stars, whose broken branches show
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: the scars of many winds and much of strife. This
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: is the them and law of life? Does that not.
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: Juice you up? You were speaking right there.
• 36:09
  Speaker 4: That's Douglas Mallick dude. Shared by Brian Peters, now shared
• 36:12
  Speaker 4: by Will Compton on Busting with the Boys. That's a
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: good poem. That's a good poem to have.
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: That shows you're built in a winner, You're built in
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: the trials and tribulations of life. You feel me, jack,
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: That right there doesn't get it get you excited for
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: gambling this fall? If that right there doesn't get you
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: ready to fail miserably on a parlay and a lot
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: of bets. Only just read that poem and come back
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: the next week ready to swing. Time to set sail, boys,
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: Time to set sail before we do as we set sail,
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: Set sail with some fucking whiskey that makes you feel
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: like a man, That makes you feel like those timber
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: trees standing strong, standing tall.
• 36:53
  Speaker 4: We got a few bottles right here.
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: One.
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: They're known for their Rye whiskey. Whistle Pig is one
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: of the most credible, probably believe, the most credible rye
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: whiskey brand in all of the fucking land out in
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: the mountains of Vermont. They craft an incredible rye whiskey.
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: They're known for their sixth year, which we have right here.
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: That's their most popular, best price point, flies off the shelves,
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: But some of their hitters. I'm holding their ten year phenomenal,
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: phenomenal ride by the way.
• 37:22
  Speaker 4: But their twelve year might be my personal favorite.
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: Now, if you have the you have the wallet to
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: get yourself the uh the boss hogs of the world,
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: go ahead and dive yourself in there. Uh, but we
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: also have a whistle pig. Wanted to do a bourbon whiskey.
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: They chose Busting with the Boys is one of their
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: only maybe their only brand to uh do a bourbon with.
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: They made a bourbon on their own and then they
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: had Bust with the Boys make a bourbon on our own. Um,
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: you're gonna taste some sweet, some some heat up front.
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: You're gonna smell a little bit of caramel. You're gonna
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: taste a little little bit of that black pepper heat
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: right at the very tip top of your throat when
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: you're about to swallow to where you're a little scared.
• 37:59
  Speaker 4: You're a little nervous walking into the cave.
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: However, as it goes down your throat, picture yourself in
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: the backyard on a fall autumn day, the football game's
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: about to kick off in noon, and you're swinging in
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: a hammock in the backyard. That's how it goes down
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: your throat. Smooth, soft, easy, and it's just warmly on
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: the very tip top of your gut. You can find
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: this whistle Pig whiskey, especially our bourbon, as you see
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: with the sticker up top here. You can find our
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: bourbon sold at any whistle Pig retailer. Wherever you get
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: your whistle Pig, call up your local retailer, ask if
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: they have the bustle with the boys.
• 38:30
  Speaker 4: Bourbon, Say you want ten of them, and then go
• 38:32
  Speaker 4: pick it up.
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: But go ahead and grab yourself a bottle of whistle
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: Pig whiskey and kick your kiss, your work day, goodbye
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: this summer this fall, and kick it off with a
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: ride ay. Kick it off with the ride ay and
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: a little bit of bourbon with the boys. That was
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: a smooth That was a smooth little adver read for
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: the boys. For whistle Pig Man, they should definitely clip
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: that and use it as like they're opening video on
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: their website. Should we do a tier talk? I thought
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: I thought of a fun little tiar talk. Are we
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: able to do a tiar talk? Best things about August?
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: We're in the months of August. There's a lot of fomo.
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: You see all the football clips going on and everything else,
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: and there's a little bit of fomo about like getting
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: involved more with August. I feel like the first day
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: at school, So I mean, you're picking your first outfit
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: to go back, Like you can feel the energy of
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: football season in school coming and that spirit is in
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: the air. And what better way to kick it off
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: than to talk about some of our favorite things about
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: the month of August. I fucked the god here, dude,
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: fuck the gods. Let's make it about us. What we
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: got to here be football comes back. I mean that
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: is God's here, all right, God to your football comes back.
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: Mitch, you go ahead with your tier talk. I get
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: a couple of seconds, or now, sure you get a
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: couple of seconds. Let me.
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: I'll go ahead and get in online. Favorite things about
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: August football being back is on my list.
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: That's all that really matters.
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: Favorite things about August. My my Tier three is gonna
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: be specific Nebraska football coming back. You know the boys
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: are in training camp right now. They just unveiled their
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: new locker room. Their new facilities are getting put together.
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: The boys have some rule aid, they have some momentum
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: going into the season, and you feel it every year
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: with Nebraska football. You know the farm owners they're ready
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: to come to the facilities and cook their fucking wagu
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: steaks and their thick ribbies for the boys.
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: Like, hey, after practice, we'll cook.
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: We'll be outside and you're having that tomahawk and eating
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: it off the bone with the bone in your hand,
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: and you just know that Nebraska football's coming back. That's
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: my tier three, is that little tickle about Nebraska football.
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: My tier two is gonna be prepping for that fantasy
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: football team. The group chats are starting up again for
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: fantasy football. The shit talkins in the air. The whoever
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: won were last year, their shit still doesn't stink. They
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: can talk down to everybody else, the ones who suck,
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: the one who's got to I think the loser of
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: our the loser of our fantasy league this year is
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: going to have to sit at a restaurant with a
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: blow up doll, with the sex doll. And I'm trying
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: to get in the stipulation that it has to be
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: on Instagram Live. But my Tier two is gonna be
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: prepping for that fantasy football draft. There's nothing like like
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: getting ready seeing what's happening in the preseason, seeing what
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: guys you're gonna pick up. When I was in the
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: trenches with the boys, I'd go up to, you know,
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: the Derrick Henry's of the world.
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: Hey, where we at? Like, how you feeling about.
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: You're gonna get the rock twenty to thirty times a
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: game again this season, you think, because I'm thinking about
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: taking you one overall.
• 42:05
  Speaker 4: Hey, Christian McCaffrey, Well, how's the body feeling?
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: Up and down? Up and down?
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: Years put together a hell of a year last year,
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: and your boy took him first overall, Christian McCaffrey, and
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: it fucking paid off. My Tier one, My Tier one.
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: Here in the pads popping, here in the pads popping. Yeah,
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: Football's back. Football's back is God teer, but specifically the
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: sounds of football. When you hear the pads popping, the
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: pads come on, the shoulder pads come on for the
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: first time, and you start hearing it.
• 42:42
  Speaker 4: You start hearing the boys.
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: Kissing throughout the country, laying the wood, knocking, somebody's dick
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: in the dirt. Some no name comes out of nowhere,
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: kenne Vacaro. He was on the He was on the street,
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: as you would like to say, when he got either
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: cut or whatever from the New Orleans Saints, was waiting
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: for an opportunity. He had to sign a minimum deal
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: with the Tennessee Titans. Comes to the Titans, comes to
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: the Titans. Middle of camp. I want to say he
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: was running with the second team, third team. Don't fucking remember,
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: but all I do know this, the motherfucker laid the
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: wood on somebody to set the tone his first day
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: out in pads. That led to him obviously taking over
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: the reins, being the starting safety for a couple of years,
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: and then re up into a big deal. But took
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: advantage of an opportunity coming back in. But it all
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: started when he came to camp on a minimum deal
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: and laid the fucking pike to somebody.
• 43:36
  Speaker 4: No, homo, actually you know what. No pause, But that's
• 43:39
  Speaker 4: my tier one.
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: When you start hearing the pads pop, it gets you
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: a little giddy inside, It gets the blood flow below
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: the belt.
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: That's my tier one. That is my tier talk. I'll
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: be doing a one word yeah, go ahead, football.
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: Hard, one word, boner, legendary. All right, go ahead, Mitchell Jack.
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: I got it.
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna not revolve everything around football like you did. Uh,
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: not a football guy. I mean it is, but it's
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: got to. I mean it's football. Is everything that you
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: just said, fantasy football, pats popping, Nebraska football, it's all.
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: It's all the same thing. I'm right there with you.
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: I'm getting juiced up too. But my Tier three.
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: The reason it's Tier three, it's because it kind of sucks,
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: but like a part of it makes you sort of
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: excited a little bit. But school's back like being able
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: to Yeah, it sucks going to school. It sucks doing
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: your homework and sitting in class, so you really don't
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: give a shit about But you're kind of like back
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: with your boys, sort of back at the cafeteria table back,
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: just like messing around in the parking lot after school.
• 44:49
  Speaker 4: You're just back with your boys, just chasing tail.
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: Yes, and that's being.
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: Too nervous to actually chase it for real, telling your
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: boys your yeah, yeah, don't do that, don't yeah.
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: My my tier two this is dependent on where you
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: grew up. Like some parts of the country might be
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: a little bit different, but like the weather starts to
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: sort of change, Like you'll get that little like that
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: little tease in August where it's like it's like seventy
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: five in the mid afternoon, like one of them good days.
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: It's like up in Pa.
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: You'll get that every every now and then, like maybe
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: you start seeing like that one tree that's a little older,
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: a little weaker, it starts to change its colors a
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: little earlier, Like you start to get that that fall vibe.
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: It's hey, it's it's coming, it's here, and my tier one.
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: I guess this sort of has to do with football,
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: but it's those summer workouts with your team, with your
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: with this squad you're going in football season with just
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: be like.
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: Hey, it's here, we're about it. We're about to do
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: this thing. It's our year. Beginning of the season, during
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: the summer workouts, you've been seeing how much work you've
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: been putting in, Like we're going undefeated this year. We're
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: in prs. You're in them prs have weight, just light weight,
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: doing your thing.
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: Just with that with it being in the air and
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: just being so close you can almost taste it. It's
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: it makes those workouts a little bit easier. It's my
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: tier one.
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: That's solid, very solid.
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: You know, you know, Mitch's one of them kids too.
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: Who took the picture serious?
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: Oh for sure, mild good like took the photo serious,
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: h my tiar talk.
• 46:37
  Speaker 5: Number three is coming in is just back to school,
• 46:40
  Speaker 5: and it relates for adults and kids in school, because
• 46:43
  Speaker 5: I remember, you go all summer long, like in high
• 46:46
  Speaker 5: school or middle school or whatever, and you're actually pretty
• 46:48
  Speaker 5: excited for that first week back, see a lot of
• 46:50
  Speaker 5: the old friends, kind of show off.
• 46:52
  Speaker 6: Some new shoes or new shirt, whatever it may be.
• 46:55
  Speaker 5: And then also if you're on the opposite side of
• 46:56
  Speaker 5: it as an adult parent kid or or someone without kids,
• 47:02
  Speaker 5: one your kids are back in school, more time for you,
• 47:05
  Speaker 5: or just like normal places where kids are being you know,
• 47:09
  Speaker 5: out of control, whether it's like a public pool or
• 47:12
  Speaker 5: the gym, they are now subjected to school, so they're
• 47:15
  Speaker 5: no longer in the free world. Yeah, kind of get
• 47:18
  Speaker 5: them out of the way, so it's kind of like
• 47:19
  Speaker 5: a nice deal for both of them.
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: Back to school.
• 47:23
  Speaker 5: Number two is probably gonna be Friday night Lights. It's
• 47:29
  Speaker 5: like the first month where high school football comes back
• 47:31
  Speaker 5: and where I grew up. I was really close to
• 47:34
  Speaker 5: Brentwood Academy. I didn't go there, but I lived a
• 47:38
  Speaker 5: street over, so every Friday night when they had a
• 47:40
  Speaker 5: home game, you'd see the lights getting fired up. You're
• 47:42
  Speaker 5: the announcers on it, and then like you could just
• 47:45
  Speaker 5: like feel the energy of the crowd from a few
• 47:47
  Speaker 5: streets away. And that's kind of like the first moment
• 47:50
  Speaker 5: where I feel like fall is starting to like break.
• 47:53
  Speaker 5: So whether it's football or Friday night lights, it's kind
• 47:56
  Speaker 5: of all encompassing. And I think number one for me,
• 48:03
  Speaker 5: I don't want to like pick yock years, but it's
• 48:05
  Speaker 5: my favorite time of year.
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: It's fantasy.
• 48:07
  Speaker 5: Like my boys and me like take our fantasy league
• 48:10
  Speaker 5: extremely serious. Our commissioner does like seven or eight different
• 48:17
  Speaker 5: polls so that we can really figure out what we
• 48:19
  Speaker 5: want for our league this year.
• 48:21
  Speaker 6: And we just finished up our last one.
• 48:23
  Speaker 5: And I think our draft is like the first week
• 48:26
  Speaker 5: of or maybe like Labor Day weekends, like a week
• 48:30
  Speaker 5: before football actually starts. So yeah, it's like the first
• 48:33
  Speaker 5: time when you're really starting to like, no, the football
• 48:37
  Speaker 5: is making a return. You've got a chance to take
• 48:40
  Speaker 5: another run at a championship. You gotta start dialing in.
• 48:43
  Speaker 5: You start hitting the forums, really doing your research. So
• 48:47
  Speaker 5: it's just like a really good time of year where
• 48:49
  Speaker 5: things start pushing away from hot weather, away from summer
• 48:53
  Speaker 5: into a more structured.
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: Friday night light.
• 48:56
  Speaker 6: It's football time of year.
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: So that is me solid. Nice.
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: Did you we get a speaking on fantasy football? Should
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: we do a bust with the boys league?
• 49:16
  Speaker 5: I was just gonna mention that after this, So I
• 49:19
  Speaker 5: think so, And I'm willing to like set it up
• 49:21
  Speaker 5: for us and we can just have like pretty standard
• 49:23
  Speaker 5: rules and if we.
• 49:25
  Speaker 6: Want to get three other people, how many we have
• 49:27
  Speaker 6: seven it would be here.
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, we get clumbs.
• 49:31
  Speaker 5: So we get to add in like two more people
• 49:33
  Speaker 5: and make it a ten man league to like standard
• 49:37
  Speaker 5: PPR snake draft. I mean, unless anyone else wants to
• 49:41
  Speaker 5: do other styles of draft.
• 49:43
  Speaker 6: That's my method.
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I like that. I like that as well.
• 49:47
  Speaker 6: No, like defensive however.
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: We we boosted the defensive stats a little bit, okay,
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: to give defense more of a rule like that in
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: uh in fantasy.
• 49:57
  Speaker 5: But yeah, I know we tried to do that last
• 49:59
  Speaker 5: year and I think it just kind of got away
• 50:01
  Speaker 5: from us and the season started and we're like, okay,
• 50:03
  Speaker 5: maybe next year.
• 50:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you're right, You're right about that.
• 50:06
  Speaker 5: Down to to get one organized and get us all
• 50:09
  Speaker 5: in like a draft here in the next few weeks.
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: We should do that.
• 50:11
  Speaker 6: It'd be a great thing to.
• 50:13
  Speaker 5: Like just have like a ten minute segment what we're doing,
• 50:16
  Speaker 5: and we can do like a funny punishment, Yeah, a
• 50:19
  Speaker 5: loser that people are gonna obviously want to watch.
• 50:22
  Speaker 3: I was thinking, like, one, it could be like a
• 50:24
  Speaker 3: little segment we do on the show and like kind
• 50:27
  Speaker 3: of something for the people to keep up with, but
• 50:28
  Speaker 3: also like we have that punishment at the end of
• 50:31
  Speaker 3: the year.
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: Like, yeah, what's the punishment going to be? I can't.
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: I said something like you gotta go bald, but the
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: loser should have to transition to the other sex. I mean,
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: that's that's it.
• 50:47
  Speaker 6: I mentioned this in my fantasy up.
• 50:49
  Speaker 5: I mean this year is that you had to drive
• 50:51
  Speaker 5: to Mount Rushmore and take a selfie and drive back,
• 50:55
  Speaker 5: which just the thirty six hour commute there and back.
• 51:01
  Speaker 4: How would you know that somebody wouldn't just buy a flight.
• 51:05
  Speaker 5: Oh, we'd like have to get like an update like
• 51:07
  Speaker 5: every hour on the road, like you in the car.
• 51:09
  Speaker 6: So like, yeah, we wouldn't. We wouldn't let someone get away.
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: It could be fun.
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: That's better than probably, you know, right, Your last thing
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: we need is to get get caught at having things
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: around what they do. You see the people, like some
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: of their fans sometimes come after us, and I'll just
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: be like surprised, like I didn't I didn't know, but
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: maybe in the subconscious mind I saw it somewhere, you
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like you just saying.
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: Like we do the exact same thing. Part of my take.
• 51:41
  Speaker 5: Maybe comments on the YouTube ooh yeah, yeah, if you're on,
• 51:46
  Speaker 5: if you're watching right now, leave a good comment on
• 51:48
  Speaker 5: what the punishment should be if you lose, you get
• 51:51
  Speaker 5: last place.
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: In our fantasy football league.
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: All right, let's get into our Let's get into our
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: last segment before we start getting into the uh the
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: interviews with the Chargers. This segment is brought to you
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  Speaker 1: But the shittiest question, the shittiest moment, Let's go with
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: the worst parts of training camp. Let's go with the
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: worst parts of training camp. I wrote a few down
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: because I was thinking the other day. I was like, man,
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: because there's times where you're like mistraining camp. But then
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: you like try and remind yourself, like why you don't
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: miss training camp?
• 53:18
  Speaker 4: Shittiest parts of training camp. I'm gonna say.
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: Going live when you have live periods, when you're in
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: the thicket training camp and the coaches want like a
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: live period every day, the very first live might get
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: you a little spicy, get you a little sauce up,
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: especially if you're somebody trying to make the roster.
• 53:37
  Speaker 4: You're like, okay, let's fucking turn it up.
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: You go goal line live or something like that, although
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: goal line is fucking a blood bath at times, but
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: going live when your body is just it's like when
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: you wake up, when you wake up in bed, you
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: feel it in your feet, your ankles, your knees. You're
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: getting down, you're trying to do some movement, you're trying
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: to do some yoga, some stretches to get your blood
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: flown a little bit. You feel them is on your feet,
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: you feel them aches in your joints, and you're like
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: a man.
• 54:05
  Speaker 4: The last thing I want to do.
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: I hope coach doesn't call live period and it's hot
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: as fuck out there, and then live period gets called up,
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: like hey, I hear there's gonna be some live today.
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: The ones don't have to go, but the twos and
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: threes are gonna make you guys go live, like move
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: the ball the full field or a full period of live.
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: You're like in scrimmage and you're just like, man, fucking
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: for what that's one another one? Chafing if you're not
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: loaded up with that gold bond, dude, Chafing in camp
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: is the fucking worst because you're wearing like, you know, spandex,
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: You're wearing all that stuff, but at the tip top
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: of your thighs, man, your ass crack, you can start chafing.
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: And if you get in some bad chafing situation, which
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: I've been in before, it sucks.
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: It is the most uncomfortable. Shit.
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: You feel like a pussy because you're like you're kind
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: of like wading a little bit and you kind of
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: want to tell people, but you don't want to tell people.
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: Chafing sucks. And then the another shitty part, this is
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: probably the worst feeling, is when there starts to get
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: a rumor floated around that the second half of the
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: day is gonna get canceled or you're gonna have a
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: movie night, only to get in the mindset that you're.
• 55:10
  Speaker 4: You're not going to be on.
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: The field, like, oh hell yeah, this is coming at
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: the perfect time in camp. You start joking with your boys,
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: only to learn that nothing is canceled and you're going
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: out for that afternoon practice or.
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: Joke through, whatever it is.
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: And then you you also learn on top of that
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: you have to sit in meetings after that ship and
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: not even meetings are canceled.
• 55:33
  Speaker 4: But when you get pranked, you get you get.
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: Duped into thinking that it's a movie night or the
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: second half the day is canceled, and only for it
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: to be a rumor that really pisses you off.
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: It happened.
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: It happened when you were at the Titans where we
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: thought it was gonna be a movie night because we
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: would do movie nights in Washington. But that really pissed
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: me off. But those are probably the worst parts about
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: Those are the shittiest parts of training camp. Oh oh yeah,
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: for two minutes sucks for me. Granted I played D three,
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: so it's a lot different. But like when you we
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: would always be an offense.
• 56:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, two minute on offense and we would always do
• 56:11
  Speaker 3: it first period of the day.
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: You're done stretching and stuff.
• 56:14
  Speaker 4: You're not two minutes to start practice.
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're not even really ready to do anything. And
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: next thing.
• 56:20
  Speaker 3: You know, you're going down the field to too, like
• 56:23
  Speaker 3: and everybody knows like you're non stop running and as
• 56:26
  Speaker 3: a receiver, like you are cooked by like fifteen minutes
• 56:31
  Speaker 3: into practice.
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: And now you think, I think everybody hates practicing two
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: minutes do because you're right, I mean being it's like
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: I consider like, oh, being a white linebacker in.
• 56:38
  Speaker 4: Two minutes like that, you're you're not in a more.
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: Vulnerable spot, but being a receiver, and you got to
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: run fucking every route.
• 56:44
  Speaker 4: It's tempo, get on the ball, it's clock management.
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: The only one who can seem to enjoy it's probably
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: the fucking quarterback because we're always doing two minutes at
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: the end of practice, and you're nobody's wanted to do
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: two minutes after doing all those periods of everything else.
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: Dog rape.
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: Sometimes we do put the ball down, like right after stretch,
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: so you're not even any type of warmed up and
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: you're doing put the ball down, like put the ball down,
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: move the ball like competition out there, popping ready to go,
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: No individual nothing to really lub yourself up from outside
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: of the bullshit, bullshit calistenics.
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: You do in the in the warm up that competition stuff.
• 57:25
  Speaker 3: You're doing camp, though, did you guys ever do like
• 57:29
  Speaker 3: not necessarily one on ones, but we did this thing
• 57:32
  Speaker 3: called ten lines. You line up on the goal line
• 57:35
  Speaker 3: and you have like that rubber thing in between you,
• 57:37
  Speaker 3: and it's just mono y mono, just whoever can push
• 57:40
  Speaker 3: somebody back.
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: The first Oklahoma drill, like it.
• 57:42
  Speaker 3: Wasn't Oklahoma drill because it was just like you're lined
• 57:44
  Speaker 3: up like offensive defensive lineman. It's just like a blocking drill,
• 57:48
  Speaker 3: like you just literally just have to drive the other
• 57:49
  Speaker 3: person back.
• 57:50
  Speaker 4: We didn't do that in the in the NFL, but
• 57:52
  Speaker 4: we did.
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: Like the first two years in college at Nebraska, You're
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: standing around like, man, I hope coach don't put me
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: up against some motherfucker.
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: Now. The way we did it, like we would call
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: each other out like.
• 58:02
  Speaker 4: Nice, I like that, Like I immediately go after the kicker.
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: Like I we had your ass out here.
• 58:08
  Speaker 3: We had like an all American corner and everybody knew
• 58:11
  Speaker 3: it was me versus him. So like every single time
• 58:14
  Speaker 3: we did it, it was always him and I your
• 58:18
  Speaker 3: boy one.
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: A lot of the time.
• 58:20
  Speaker 4: You want that, dude, you know you're stronger than in
• 58:22
  Speaker 4: the weight room.
• 58:23
  Speaker 3: This dude was stronger than me and he's a beast
• 58:26
  Speaker 3: and he still is. But like, we just always got.
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: Him in the leverage game. Yeah, I love that. Get
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: under him, get fucking drive the pads. Yeah. Ah. Man.
• 58:37
  Speaker 4: Again, it's like the you miss it and then.
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: Some parts of you just don't miss all that physical
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: that physicality.
• 58:47
  Speaker 4: But football is just amazing.
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: Dude.
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: You're imposing your will on somebody else, and you're doing
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: it with a with a a group, you know what
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: I mean. Everybody's kind of got like a different role,
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: a different element, a different fit in the scheme.
• 59:04
  Speaker 4: You're all trying to kind of accomplish the same thing.
• 59:07
  Speaker 4: I fucking love it.
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: Man.
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: Let's get in these how long we been going an hour? Fuck,
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: let's get in these interviews. If you're new here, we
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: always do long ass. We call him intros. I don't
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: even know why we call him intros. This is just
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: the podcast. But again, if you've been sticking around, make
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: sure to subscribe, leave comments. Let's get into these interviews
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: with the Chargers, Keenan Allen, Mike Williams, Austin Eckler. Brought
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• 59:42
  Speaker 2: But without further ado, here are the interviews.
• 59:45
  Speaker 7: First stop at the training camp tour Los Angeles, California,
• 59:48
  Speaker 7: where the Chargers were sitting here with Austin Eckler, one
• 59:51
  Speaker 7: of the best running backs in the entire league, and
• 59:53
  Speaker 7: also will is Old.
• 59:55
  Speaker 4: One of the best landlords in the game.
• 59:56
  Speaker 7: Yeah, the best is the Yeah, when you were at
• 59:58
  Speaker 7: the Raiders, you stay at his place, right He charged
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 7: me rent.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: I paid rent. There was there was.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 4: He's a phenomenal landlord. He's the business man, is he?
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, He's got a couple of things going on.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: You got an app, You've got real estate, real estate,
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: a lot of nonprofits.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah, huge real casey juju.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 8: You guys just we just built the way right down
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 8: the beat right down the street here for Long Beach Bolly.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 9: So a lot of stuff going on. He does a
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 9: lot of stuff.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 7: No ship, how was well? Uh, I guess when you got.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 8: Back, how was I mean, there wasn't really much in
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 8: the house, like there was like I just got the house.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 8: I was like, look, man, there's not a lot in there.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 8: There's enough to get buy though, and so that's I
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 8: guess that was enough. So it wasn't too much. And
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 8: you saw You're like, I bet there was a there
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 8: was a food left in the fridge, but I mean
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 8: that if that's it, then I'm like.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 7: Whatever, we'll take out your throwing the garbage, yourself had
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 7: a couple of the anything else was Intactpee.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 4: And Garrett, we're out there and I burnt the pizza
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 4: in the house.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 7: A little smoke coming out of the oven. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 7: little smoke coming out of the oven. He's still own
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 7: that place now.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 7: When you think about we'll get the football and stag
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 7: when you think about the ending of football, like what
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 7: is your end goal with all these.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 8: Different Yeah, Man, for me, I'm really trying to just
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 8: continue to expand myself, expand my capabilities, and put myself
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 8: in positions to actually challenge those And so even like
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 8: right now, I've basically doubled my team this summer, and
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 8: I have two new things that I'm starting, starting this
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 8: website that's like a big aggregate of like all the
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 8: NFL players, like foundations and like merch lines and things
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 8: like that, so it's like a one stop shop. And
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 8: then I had like this discord event company that I'm starting.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 8: So all of these things are always going on, and
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 8: I think I find myself where I get like, I
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 8: get impatient. I want to go do more, you know,
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 8: like football is going on, but it's like, Okay, I
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 8: still have time to do stuff, and so I continue
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 8: to build these different like situations where I can build
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 8: a team around a company, build a company, let that
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 8: thing operate, and then I build another one and I
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 8: do another one. And so that's where I am right now,
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 8: and I've been doing that for like four years now,
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 8: so all my endeavors are kind of starting to add
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 8: up and starting to grow this empire.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: I was gonna say, how do you go about compartmentalizing
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: all that while playing football? Yeah, so making sure you're
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: not in the meeting room thinking about yeah.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 8: Yeah, really when I'm here at football, when it's time
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 8: for football, like I am totally locked in at football,
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 8: just like when I'm thinking about those things, it's like
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 8: I'm only hyper focused on those And so when I'm
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 8: here and going into year seven, you know how it is,
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 8: you learn how to be a pro, You learn how
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 8: how the offenses work. You know pretty much every offense.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 8: Now I've learned three of them. They're all the same.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 8: We just call it different things. And I've gotten to
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 8: a routine. I love working out like that's that's what
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 8: I do. And so that helps where it's like I'm
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 8: already wanting to work and do the things that are
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 8: going to help me with football just on my own,
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 8: and so then when it comes time to football, I'm
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 8: already ready to go physically, and now it's just learning
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 8: the mental stuff.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 7: When you came out and got in the NFL, when
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 7: did you start to feel more comfortable about doing stuff
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 7: outside of football?
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: Oh?
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 9: Great question, because yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 8: When I first started, right, I was I was undrafted,
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 8: six string, had a scratching claw to get on the team,
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 8: up on special teams, and for me, that was what
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 8: I was hyper focused on, just making sure I could
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 8: implement myself into this league and trying to make an
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 8: impact and be consistent and show that okay, I can
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 8: I can play at this level with this team or
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 8: some other team ended up being this team, and then
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 8: got a routine going was consistent. That's what I would
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 8: like to say, Like people say oh, you're this great
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 8: running back. Like what differentially, I'm just really consistent within
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 8: my job. You'd be surprised how far I can take you.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 8: But once I got into my second year, I really
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 8: figured out how to start being a pro. So after
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 8: my second year, going into my third year, I was like, okay,
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 8: like I got a good grasp on this. I've I've
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 8: just pretty much established myself. You know, I've had success.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 8: The coaching staff trust me, right, I know how to
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 8: actually get ready for season. And then that's when I
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 8: started getting into real estate and bought my first rental properties.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: Who were some of the veteran mentors that you like
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: learn from and be like, Okay, after a year or two,
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: I've kind of learned how to be a pro. Who
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: are some of the guys you watched from afar or
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: directly influenced.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 8: In the locker room, you know, there's so many different
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 8: types of people, There's so many different clicks and things
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 8: like that. And so we had our running back room,
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 8: and Melvin Gordon was like the guy that was in
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 8: front of me. He was he was just like the
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 8: number one in our locker room for a while in
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 8: uh in the running back room and for us, like
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 8: during the time here, like we all work together, but
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 8: when you go home, you're on your own.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 9: And so like when we were.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 8: Here, like yeah in the meeting room, like like I
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 8: see how much he understands the game and things like that.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 8: So that was something I was able to learn from here.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 8: But then you know how it gets when you get
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 8: outside the doors, it's on you.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 9: What do you want to do?
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 8: And it goes back to even how I even got
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 8: to this point, Like I was so focused in college too,
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 8: but I thought I was going into business, and so
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 8: I was hyper focused on business building, my my connections,
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 8: my relationships, my capabilities in the business world. But that
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 8: that that drive and grind was also playing over into
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 8: my football career where I was trying to increase my
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 8: scholarship and so that demeanor coming into the PROB level, right,
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 8: it was the same thing it was like when it
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 8: was when I was done with the season or on
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 8: my own time, like I'm studying, I'm like, I'm making
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 8: sure that I can pick up any little thing that
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 8: I can to make sure I'm consider didn't do my job,
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 8: because you don't want it to be something that you
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 8: didn't do to cause you to fail right where it's
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 8: like I should have I should have done this, and
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 8: that would like nah, I couldn't do that to myself.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 7: You know when you're you bring up Melvin Gordon, Yeah,
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 7: he's been on our podcast.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: Me.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 9: Yeah, we were telling this offseason a yeah, but.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 7: You you walk into your room, undrafted guy scratching a
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 7: call on. You see this dude, he had the career
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 7: he did at Wisconsin, You see him balling out in
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 7: the league, and then you start to obviously overtake and
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 7: essentially take his job at the end of the day, Like,
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 7: was there ever a dynamic shift that you noticed throughout
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 7: the time that he was here once you started to
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 7: become the guy.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 8: No, for us, it was I mean for me, I
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 8: was like super higher focus on whatever role I had.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 9: At the beginning, it was just special teams.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 8: It was like, all right, Austin, you had a great
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 8: you know, preseason on special teams to like five tackles
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 8: and special teams in the preseason games and it was like, Okay,
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 8: well this guy can run, he can tackle it, and
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 8: so yeah, I was decent at running back, but I
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 8: wasn't making crazy plays. My plays that I were making
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 8: was on special teams, so I'm running down on special teams.
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 8: And then my third, my third game in my rookie year,
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 8: I get my first ever carry and it was a
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 8: thirty four yard ripper right up the freaking middle for
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 8: a touchdown. Oh yeah, yeah it was thirty cheese. Yeah,
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 8: this is a little trap play. Yeah yeah, cheese mouse trap.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 8: We have a whole bunch of codes, code names and stuff. Yeah,
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 8: and so yeah, rip it up and yeah, thirty four
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 8: yard touchdown.
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 9: I'm just full of emotion.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 8: And I think that was kind of like, okay, like
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 8: maybe this guy can play offense a little bit. And
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 8: then actually Brandon Oliver, the guy that was in front
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 8: of me, ended up like tweaking his hamstring or something.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 8: So then I did become the number two, and then
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 8: I did started playing more offense my rookie year, and
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 8: they're like, okay, like, yeah, he's consistent, knows what he's doing.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 9: You can trust him in the game.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 8: And then going into the next year, I was like
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 8: half and half like and it was like half offense,
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 8: half defense. And then the next year after that was
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 8: the year that Melbourne held out for the first three games,
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 8: and so then I was they were like Okay, Austin's
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 8: gonna get a test. Let's see if he can hold
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 8: the rope. We come out, I have an overtime like touchdown.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 8: I go off the first game I had like three
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 8: touchdowns like one hundred and sixty seventy yards, and then
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 8: start establishing myself like okay, like this guy can actually
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 8: play football, and that they took me off with special teams,
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 8: and I was just strictly that'd.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: Be the best feeling in the world.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, yeah, So there's progression that you saw within
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 8: and really it wasn't that I was doing anything crazy,
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 8: just doing my job, doing at a high level, doing
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 8: it consistently, and you know, it carries over into so
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 8: many different things, you know, all the aspects that I
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 8: have outside of football as well. Like I see in
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 8: my mind where it's like I take a project and
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 8: I apply those same at the principles that I live
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 8: by to it. And that's how I'm able to build
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 8: and do so many because I'm not in the in
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 8: the weeds and doing trying to do every little thing.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 9: I'm just trying to do my portion of it.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 8: And then I'll set it in especially for the companies,
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 8: I'll set up other people to do their portion of it,
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 8: and my portion is to oversee it right, right, And
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 8: when I'm in this room, it's like, Okay, my portion
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 8: is to play running back, right.
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 9: I'm not trying to do as much too much.
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 8: I'm trying to play running back to the highest level
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 8: that I possibly can. And the rest of the team
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 8: is right those teams that I put around myself as well.
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 9: So it's something that can rinse and repeat and I
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 9: can just keep doing.
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you've definitely you've obviously established yourself as like a
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: premiere back in the league. You're businessman, you can tell
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: you always see the wheels turning up top. Yeah, all
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: the headlines with the running back market and everything else. Ye,
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: Dalvin Cook, he just took a he just accepted a deal.
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: Ezekiel Elliott. Yeah, kind of softer deal. Yeah, one year deals,
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: franchise tags and all that. You've been somebody who's seems
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: to be like one of the leaders of that running
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: back group.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 2: Where do you.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: See this market going? How do you see all this shifting?
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: Like what is the strategy in your mind as you
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: see it from a bird's eye view?
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 8: Yeah, you know there's been a new narrative that's been
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 8: coming out because of the contract situation that's going on,
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 8: and for us as running backs right now, I think
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 8: it's important.
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 9: For us to talk about it.
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 8: And what we can do is one thing which I
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 8: think is amazing, to keep doing what we're doing right
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 8: now as far as playing, like keep making a huge
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 8: impact on your team. You know, there's average players in
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 8: the NFL, but then there's the outliers, and those outliers
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 8: are the guys that are setting the new markets, pushing
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 8: the boundaries. And the reason they're doing that is because
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 8: they're not the average. So when we have these narratives
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 8: that are coming out where they're comparing the outliers to
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 8: the average, it really hurts us, you know, and that
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 8: that's not fair to those guys. You know, you can't say, oh, well,
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 8: running backs in general only get this many yards.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 9: What about those guys? What about you know, you know Josh.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 8: Jacobs who just ran for sixteen hundred yards and all
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 8: those touchdowns and basically carry the Raiders offense. You know
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 8: what about ze I mean, Saquon what he's been doing.
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 8: You know, Tony Pollard, those guys that are not the average,
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 8: right and when you compare them to that you could
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 8: probably justify, yeah, if you shouldn't be paying anything, but
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 8: you could do that for every position.
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 9: You know, why are you doing that for the running
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 9: backs right now?
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 8: And so for us, what I want us to do
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 8: and what we've decided is let's keep talking about let's
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 8: try to change this narrative understanding make up.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 9: Let people know that, hey, we can still make a
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 9: big impact.
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 8: And you see that, you go ask the Giants, fans
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 8: and the coaching staff how big of a you know,
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 8: impact Saquon is on the field right to when he's
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 8: not on the field, and they'll tell you that. And
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 8: so for us, it's it's talking about that and so
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 8: people understand that you cannot compare the outline to the
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 8: average and then justify paying them because of that. And
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 8: then another thing that we need to do is continue
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 8: to keep balling out, continue to do that right and
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 8: as we do that, I mean, time will show as
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 8: it has in the past, that yes.
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 9: We can make an impact on our team.
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 8: And not all running backs make a huge impact, but
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 8: the ones that do, we need them to step up.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 8: Like me, there's this theory around twenty eight year olds like, oh,
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 8: you know, that's when they start dropping off. I'm twenty eight,
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 8: so it's on me, so on my shoulders, go out
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 8: there and prove them wrong.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: You know, where do you see the market going? Like,
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: where do you want it? Where do you guys like
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: want it to go? Collectively?
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean I think it just wanted to stay consistent,
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 8: just like every other market is. You know, I'm not
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 8: saying we have any guys that are pushing the top
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 8: and need to bust open the market cap right now
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 8: and are the best new thing. I think Christians still
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 8: at that level and holding it down at the top.
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 8: You know, you could make some arguments from some other guys,
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 8: but no one's even getting close to those types of
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 8: contracts where it's like you're telling me they're that far
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 8: away and I can't believe that.
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 9: I don't buy that.
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 8: And so there's been a decline as far as you know,
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 8: these reupping of contracts. And you know, we saw it
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 8: with a franchise tag where it's like now, instead of
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 8: giving Saquon all those three guys write a chance to
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 8: go get an open market. They've been tagged and they've
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 8: been you know, stuck at an artificial set number. Are
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 8: they worth that maybe maybe not, but they don't get
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 8: an opportunity, and so you won't know, and so it
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 8: messes up our market. So now when you're getting compared
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 8: to people, how the market works, Oh well, sak one's
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 8: only getting ten, so we're gonna give you less than
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 8: that because you're not as good as him.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 9: But maybe he should be making fifteen sixteen, fifteen, I
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 9: don't know.
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 2: We don't know.
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 9: One's going to know because he never got to the
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 9: open market.
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 7: Because it seems like with a lot of position group,
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 7: it's like the next guy up, the next guy up
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 7: who's played well enough, he just resets the market, and
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 7: then that guy resets it. Yeah, exactly, it always off.
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 7: It's a lineman, which is all I really know. Like
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 7: some guy sets the market and then six months later
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 7: there's a new line.
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 2: Then there's a new line.
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 7: One thing you brought up a little bit ago that
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 7: was a notable point is you're saying the biggest thing
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 7: is for guys just to stay and keep balling for
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 7: their team.
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 2: Was there ever a.
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 7: Discussion for you guys like we need to hold out
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 7: as a running back group. It's because it seems like
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 7: like if you're being undervalued, so much. Someone must have
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 7: brought that to the table, like do we just hold
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 7: out of this whole thing?
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 8: Yeah, no, it's definitely been brought up. You know, you
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 8: can go back and forth or whether that's that's good
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 8: or not. I just I just know as a collective,
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 8: it puts a lot of pressure on not necessarily the
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 8: older guys, but the younger guys, you know, because it's
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 8: like if you have a rookie or first year or
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 8: second year or even a bubble guy that's like, I
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 8: need to make the team.
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 9: And now you're asking the holdout.
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 8: It's like, man, that's that's a tough spot to put
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 8: a to put anybody like, you're not gonna get paid either,
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 8: So we're taking a risk here and getting everyone on
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 8: board with that. It takes time, and it takes I
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 8: think a reason that would be bigger than just the
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 8: running backs and maybe you know, as a collective of
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 8: the entire union, but now I think it comes down
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 8: to everyone's individual you know kind of situation like do
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 8: you think that's going to be a power move for
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 8: you not to sign your franchise tag or to hold
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 8: out based off of you know, your Senate scenario. And
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 8: it's it's all individual what you what do your what
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 8: does your team think you can do?
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 9: What are the commerce says that you have?
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 8: And because maybe the team is interested in getting something done,
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 8: but you're close, but you're not You're not on the
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 8: same page yet, so maybe you hold out to maybe
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 8: kind of close that small gap, or if you're really
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 8: far apart, it's like, ah, I don't know. If you
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 8: can hold out, it might not do anything, you know.
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 8: So I think there's different factors that play into everyone's situation,
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 8: a lot of different variables.
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: Do you feel like, what are the conversations like when
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: it comes to the thought of the running back having
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: their own union?
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 8: No, no, I mean I've heard narratives like that. I
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 8: think those are coming from outside sources. I've never heard
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 8: any of our guys say that. It doesn't really make
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 8: sense to me because if we're not utilizing our own
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 8: union that we have now, which is a lot more
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 8: powerful because it's all of us than what makes me
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 8: think that we're going to do it.
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 2: On our own right?
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 8: And I mean, who's going to run that, you know,
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 8: who's going to set that up? Like it's not just like, oh,
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 8: we just started union. The union is us. We are
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 8: the we are the union, you know, so if you
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 8: want to do something, let's do it. Let's get it done.
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 8: Like you already have the power to do what you
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 8: want to do with your individual union, you know, like
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 8: we can do it right now. What are you waiting for?
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 8: You know, if you want to start your own union,
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 8: why would you not like conversations like we had, Like
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 8: that's what it is. It was the running backs. There
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 8: was no there was no other position beside running backs
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 8: on that. So basically we already have that noise. So
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 8: I don't I just I think that's extra work. That's unnecessary.
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 9: Brother.
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  Speaker 7: We appreciate you coming on. I know, literally twelve o
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 7: two right now, you have to work out of twelve five.
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 2: We could clearly talk to him for hours, for hours.
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 8: We gotta run back, We gotta run back in the bus. No,
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 8: you've been trying to get me out there. We'll make
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 8: it happen. We'll make it happen. Hopefully get it done
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 8: this next offseason and I'll have a whole empire to
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 8: unload on you guys and let you guys know how's going.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, awesome, good stuff.
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  Speaker 1: whatcome the busting with the boys? First quest, who's the
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 1: biggest try hard on the team?
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 9: The biggest try hard on try hard? You pretty much
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 9: can pick any defensive guy defense.
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 10: I feel like defensive players always try hard. Yeah, they
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 10: just yeah, they're extremely walk through.
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 9: Yeah, to walk through, bro, the defensive guy you want
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 9: to pick to give some some defense.
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: Now for the for the defensive side, the offensive line
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 1: is is taught to go at an unreasonable pace.
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 7: Unnaturally though you think those big guys want to be
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 7: running up and down the field like that yelled at.
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 4: But it comes from the coaches. They like put some
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 4: resks on, like hey.
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 7: We need some finish down lineah, finish with the ball
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 7: carrier goes running double route sixty yards, gets tackled at
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 7: the five yard line.
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah he's trotting down there. Yeah, you know.
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 7: Joey Bosta though he's the guy you look at and
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 7: you think probably not try hard.
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 9: Guy in practice the only one that don't Kali don't
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 9: really try hard either, Like yeah, because there's like an
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 9: understanding like I would have made the play. Most of
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 9: the guys is like I gotta get to my spot.
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 9: I can't let you block me. I gotta like bro relaxed, Bro,
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 9: Like you're probably not even gonna make the play, Bro.
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 2: You made you.
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 7: You bring up a great point, like getting to a
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 7: point where you know like you're good enough, you made
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 7: the roster. Not only made you made the roster, but
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 7: you're a fucking star. Like when did that creep in
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 7: for you? There was a little bit of there had
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 7: to be some time there in the beginning.
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 9: You're little insurance, say after probably after I made the
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 9: Pro Bowl. Yeah, I already thought I was pretty good,
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 9: but then I made the Pro Bowl and it was
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 9: like all you made it with one of the guys,
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 9: I was like twenty sixteen. That was after my ACS.
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 9: So twenty sixteen, I think maybe twenty seventeen you did.
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: You had comeback Player of the Year in Yeah, yeah,
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 1: eventem right, that was same year.
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 7: Okay, it was sixteen season, seventeen Pro Bowl.
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 9: Yeah, something like that something like that, that.
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 2: Is that is wild.
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 7: And then from from then on, did it change your
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 7: workout or just how you practice?
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 9: No, I still practice hard. I'm not I'm not try hard,
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 9: but I go pretty hard in practice.
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 2: You do, don't think I go hard? God, it's a teammate.
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 2: What's Kenny like as a teammate? Amazing? You know real
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 2: now I'm being serious.
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 10: He's like a coach, really, I mean he everybody go
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 10: to him for, you know, examples of how to run
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 10: a route. What do you think on this coverage? If
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 10: he playing me like this, how should I run it?
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 10: I feel like a lot more people go to him
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 10: as far as you know running routes before a coach.
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you are nasty.
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 7: You're right, running it is? Has that always been like
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 7: a really important thing to you or did you realize early.
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 2: I was always been shifty.
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 9: I used to play running back and I was like,
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 9: uh not very Sanders obviously, but I was like that
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 9: was my play style, Like yeah, Barry Sanders, lt I
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 9: make guys missing, you know all? And then I got Yeah.
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 9: My sophomore year high school, I went up to like
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 9: six three. So then I just had to take it
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 9: out of a receiver. But I can't there hear me
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 9: play style Nah, not have been levey On Bell something
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 9: like that shift.
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 7: Hey, Leveon Bell was different move he was almost like
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 7: standing still for a little bit.
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 2: He was different.
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 7: Glitching Madden like this was just kind of falling around.
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 7: He stand away from the hold to open and then
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 7: get him.
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 9: There any other running back do that? The coach is yelling, No.
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 2: Mike Commlin, dude.
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 7: He he just seems like he's got away with unique
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 7: personalities like Roethlisberger, ab and Le'Veon on the same team.
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no question.
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 10: A.
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Is there an art running around?
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 9: Absolutely? You gotta have a vision. It's definitely art man.
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 9: You gotta set this guy up. You gotta paint a
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 9: picture where he don't where he believes it.
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 1: You know what's like something practical that you're able to
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 1: just like say out loud because I feel like a
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 1: lot of it is probably just got to be instinct.
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 9: Yeah, a lot of it instinct. But I think more
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 9: than that, this leverage. Once you know a guy's leverage,
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 9: I can make him play the leverage more than he's
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 9: supposed to. Like you know what I'm saying. I can
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 9: really make that for people that don't so leverage. It
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 9: starts with the safety. So if it's two safeties, he's
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 9: gonna have inside leverage. If it's one safety, he's gonna
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 9: have outside leverage. So once you could figure that out
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 9: and you can see that pre snap, if he has
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 9: outside leverage, I'm taking him outside as far as I
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 9: want to take it. And now now the inside is
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 9: that much more open, you know what I'm saying, saying
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 9: thing with the outside. If he's inside leverage, I'm taking
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 9: him inside.
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 2: Is that something you had to learn early?
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 9: Absolutely comfortable with you. I mean, like for a rookie,
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 9: it's hard to do. I tell him all the time, like,
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 9: look at the safety is if it's too high, he
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 9: got inside leverage. But it's hard to like, yeah, you ain't.
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 4: You ain't just about to like he said, he's still
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 4: not comfortable.
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 10: I do it sometimes, but yeah, I feel like he
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 10: pushed it to like the farest point to where it's
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 10: like but he still do it.
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 7: Though, Like in your mind, when you're pushing somebody with
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 7: outside leverage out, you think about that redlining practice.
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 10: Yeah, I'm like, he's not gonna move and then I'm
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 10: gonna come back in. He's gonna be waiting on me,
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 10: but you try.
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 2: To push to the gatory pile.
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 7: I'm taking him, Yeah, taking him out there, and he
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 7: gotta play it.
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 2: He gotta play it. Yeah. Do y'all sell scout.
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 1: Do y'all sell scout a lot to where you're like, Okay,
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 1: I need this route to match up to what people
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 1: are obviously preparing for, and this is how it can
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 1: make it look like this, to change it up.
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 9: That's where the art part comes in. You make everything
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 9: look the same. You know what I'm saying. They don't
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 9: know what's coming.
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 7: So yeah, off of the line, I don't know how
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 7: this is for you, but like just watching you on
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 7: the outside, it's like, that's cool.
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 2: It just seems like they're running. Seems like they're running.
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 7: And then I know you, like you sit there and
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 7: you're like you know, qwo jet blah blah blah blah,
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 7: and you're all right, boys, good luck and just run
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 7: like a slant.
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 2: You're like, I didn't really do anything, did he know?
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 7: Thinking about leverage and all that stuff, It's wild how
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 7: many like mini games are being played on one on one.
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 9: S mass for sure, especially when you're playing against a
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 9: good guy. Yeah, and he knows his leverage, but he
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 9: don't really have to play that leverage. That's why I
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 9: like playing against the Patriots. They're tough, man, because like
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 9: it's one high, so they're playing outside leverage, but they'll
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 9: play ahead up and they won't move, just like, man,
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 9: I don't know I'm gonna get in there today.
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 7: It's wild the Patriots, Like, I mean, they obviously have
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 7: talent on their team, but they've made a living for
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 7: themselves being like a team that just like is really
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 7: well coached and get it done. And then you think
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 7: of one on one outside guy, like you'd be like, oh,
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 7: this is no problem, this is as talented as me,
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 7: blah blah blah blah. But they're just so dialed the
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 7: fucking and they just spin the wheel on defense. They
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 7: could run a three four one week and the next
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 7: week they're running five exactly. We have no idea we're
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 7: gonna do.
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 9: Every time we played him wrong, we're wrong, dude.
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 7: And then they bring Himen Chung back in the day
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 7: he go down and play the safety and be like
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 7: you like, now count him, and you're counting all that.
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 1: It was in their defense, Like they're known for trying
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 1: to take out the you know, the better weapon as
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 1: much as they can. So even though the dude's playing
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 1: head up, he's probably knows that he's got some inside
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 1: help somewhere.
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 7: But you say, hey, when you're when you're playing the Patriots, Mike,
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 7: like early in your career, this man's getting doubled over here.
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 7: It had to be nice double both guys.
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 10: I like it early on. And then they started trying
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 10: to double both of us and they had step and
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 10: it was like that were doing it was like punt.
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 9: No, it was crazy. It was double vice. Really no,
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 9: it was single. It was me and Stephan and then
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 9: they double him with JC.
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 2: That's you got to do that.
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 1: You guys played fantasy No, I don't know fantasy football.
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 2: If you look at the numbers on the.
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 10: Team, I think, hey, for sure, for sure, I think
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 10: you are some heavy hitters.
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, are some heavy hitters. Sometimes you gotta like pick
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 1: and choose, like which one do we think? So you
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 1: get the ball more?
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 2: We got to I know if I'm on the I
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 2: know if.
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 1: I'm on the team, like I'm coming up, I have
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 1: one of you guys draft. I'm let's say, hey, I
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 1: need a I need something this.
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 2: I need something this week. I say, don't get mad
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 2: at you don't if you don't put up numbers.
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 4: You know, Jay reed, like I always said, you and
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 4: read on my fantasy and I'll come.
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 2: Up to him and be like, hey cat, two balls
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 2: last week. I'm gonna need you to pick it up.
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to move on. It's great. I have
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 2: to move on from you.
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 7: Do you guys get a tweeted out quite a bit
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 7: from people on their stasy teams?
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 7: Have you guys have been like a Todd girly situation
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 7: where you get the ball and the touchdowns right there,
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 7: but you know, for the betterment of winning the game,
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 7: you can't you can't score.
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 2: What do you think you would do in that situation?
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 2: Was that? To me?
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 7: Selfishly? I'm thinking stats, baby, we had contract to you're
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 7: coming up. It could be three years away. They got
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 7: to remember this touchdown?
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 2: You know? What was the situation on Todd?
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 7: So it's like usually like in a four minute situation,
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 7: were they already well basically the white flag and they'll like,
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 7: let you score. It's more of a running back thing.
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 7: They'll like, let you score to get the ball back.
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 7: Only being down nine and now gives them more time
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 7: to do that on sidekick. So the situation for you
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 7: is I'm.
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 9: Think for running back you gotta just go down.
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 2: Gotta go down.
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 7: But for you you can kind of play am or receive.
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 7: I'm not always in this step. You get your bubble
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 7: Street and you coach.
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 2: We have two possessions.
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 7: Want me to do exactly.
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 2: You gotta get a stop. You can't let us twice.
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 2: We can't let us score twice.
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 7: Let Bosa and Khalil go to work, bro and cook it.
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 7: I need you, Yeah, Mike, for you when you got draft, like, actually,
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 7: let's go back to just draft.
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 2: In general, for both of you.
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 7: When you guys were you're twenty fourteen thirteen, twenty thirteen, Uh,
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 7: where did you guys want to go? You've been here
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 7: long enough now it's okay if you don't see the charges.
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 7: But where did you want to go?
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 2: I really didn't have a place I wanted to go.
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 7: Who are you a fan of?
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 2: Growing up?
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 10: I like Randy Moss Adrian Peterson, but I didn't want
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 10: to go to Minnesota. Yeah, where'd you go? Where'd you
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 10: grow up at? I know you went to Colna, I
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 10: grew up.
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 7: You're coming out this ghost far You never thought about
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 7: going to the University of South Carolina.
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was an option. It was an option.
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 4: Boy, hope he's a bigger he's a game cock.
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 10: Or yeah, that's why I was gonna commit, and it
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 10: happened he went to Clinton. On the day when I
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 10: went to commit, I just peked the Clemson had wait wait,
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 10: wait wait.
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 2: I grabbed.
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 9: Where.
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 10: I told my family I'm going to South Carolina. It
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 10: was like thirty minutes from the crib. I'm like, yeah,
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 10: we're going there. And then on commitment day, I grabbed
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 10: South Carolina had put it down, grabbed Clemson.
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 2: My mom was, what are.
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 7: You doing fucking away?
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 2: He's confuted.
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 7: There's no way you just had that.
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 10: But it's crazy because I had to commit me day,
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 10: my coach, my high school coach, had a long talk
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 10: with me because he knew I was going to South Carolina,
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 10: but he wanted me to go to Clemson. And he
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 10: had a long talk with me before like we had
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 10: the delayed thing and all.
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 2: Clemson.
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 7: What was like the what was the reason why you
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 7: should you talking.
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 2: About quarterback situation?
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 10: South Carolina didn't have like a real elyaite quarterback like
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 10: Clemson got some guys coming in receivers. I had to
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 10: learn from saying me and them. South Carolina didn't have nobody.
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 10: But that was my main thing. I'm like, I go
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 10: to South Carolina. I'm gonna be the star. Like, go
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 10: right now, be the star.
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 2: A little bit, get a little bit.
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 7: Everybody all right, you can't get in trouble anymore.
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 2: Nil is a thing.
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 7: Clear got some cash, new car.
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 10: I was driving the buick, Buick like old buick, pointing
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 10: at the point, B yeah locked. Then with me, how
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 10: much did you get paid to go to college?
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 9: I wish man, I was on my way to going
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 9: to Alabama. Though we probably got some bread, no question.
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 9: I didn't get nine though, wouldn't take no U huh No.
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 2: They was they Yeah, they was there. They was going.
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 2: They was gonna they were gonna show some love.
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 7: They it's like almost like they almost said say at
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 7: this point, like they pay people. They Derek in the pond,
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 7: He's like, I got paid in rings, which is a
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 7: hell of a thing to say. Yeah, crazy that it
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 7: goes hard.
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 2: I went on to visit.
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 9: Everybody got chrystlers. You know, it's crazy.
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 2: See that again.
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 9: Everybody everybody at the dorm had a christ had a
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 9: Crystler Chrysler three hundred, three hundred, three hundred, crushing like jeeps, Like, bro,
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 9: what's up?
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 7: Three hundreds got to be the wimber ones doing no way?
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 7: They said, they hook it up when you get their
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 7: systems rams. You hear about Matthew Stafford when he was
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 7: gonna leave early. No, he came out to his mailbox
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 7: and there was five hundred thousand dollars sitting in his
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 7: mailbox for him to stay for another year. Now, obviously
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 7: he was the first overall, but he's like, this is
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 7: fucking nothing. Great end up believing, but sec rules like that. Dude, No,
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 7: I think he gave it back. I didn't hear from him.
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 7: This is like a game of telephone friends a friend.
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 2: Now I'm here. You know I would have kept this.
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 2: You would have kept it. Quite somebody took it. I
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 2: don't know where it's AT's like once you leave paul it,
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 2: I ain't heard it up. That's what I'm every day.
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 7: You think dudes leaving college and then get in trouble
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 7: like Reggie Bush is a perfect example. Like they took
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 7: his heisman away. Yeah, Like I'm Reggie Bush I'm just
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 7: going to go to a trophy shop back. Hey make
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 7: me a replica of the heisman I won that thing.
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 7: It doesn't matter.
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 2: Clear day, Clear's day.
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 1: They do need to give that ship back to They
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 1: got to give that shack to then a hurry, like
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 1: when you got drafted here, most of the dynamic like
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 1: between y'all two, because you're obviously a first round pick,
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 1: you're very established come back player of the year, Pro Bowls.
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 2: See.
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 10: It was different because when I first got here, I
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 10: was dealing with my back, so I missed OTA's training
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 10: camp like the first four weeks of the season, so
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 10: I was just in the rehab room just trying to
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 10: get right. I wasn't really in meetings like that. I
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 10: was just trying to get healthy. So it was a
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 10: little different. It started off slow. I mean once I
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 10: hit the field film room, my main thing was how
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 10: could I learn defenses to make my job a little easier,
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 10: And just hearing them talking meetings and stuff just made
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 10: everything a lot quicker for me, learning a lot faster
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 10: and just yeah, play fast.
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 2: Was there a go ahead?
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 7: Was there like a dynamic between you two coming in
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 7: like you're being the first round pick?
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 2: How what you were you and Mike Cammon. I was
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 2: a year four. But did you sign the same contract yet?
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 9: Year he signed was? Uh was the year I made
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 9: the pro bo?
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah? So that was right after the a C.
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 7: Now was there a little bit of a like are
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 7: they trying to replace me? Because you guys are similar players?
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 9: How I was feeling when we first did it. Yeah,
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 9: I was sitting next to trap like, oh, they trying
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 9: me right now?
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 2: They trying me.
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 7: It is stressful sitting there watching the draft.
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, being like I'm like, they trying me.
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 9: When we drafting the first round receiver this year, I
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 9: thought they was trying me again, trying me again.
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 2: I think I'm kidding.
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 4: No, you extended it at this point when they had
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 4: drafted him.
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 7: Uh yeah, yeah yeah yeah, oh so you there's no
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 7: trying you know, we'll just bring in more talent to
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 7: help him out there.
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 2: So he was while I was here?
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 9: Why Michael was here? So No, I actually got extended
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 9: the year before. I told nice year and then again
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 9: so that what I got, I got extended the year
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 9: he got here, and then I got another one.
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 7: Uh three years later. Congratulations, you're the same year as
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 7: like you Cory Davis and one other receiver. You guys
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 7: went like three in a row, right, John Ross John Ross.
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 2: John retired this year.
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 7: Every fantasy person was like, this is the guy I'm
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 7: taking early in. Yeah, yeah, I mean you run a
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 7: forty like that. You know, the casual washers I said,
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 7: they're going this is my fucking fantasy correct.
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 2: Just looking for that when you're coming out.
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 7: Obviously you guys get picked boom boom boom, like three
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 7: in a row. Are you thinking like there's a little
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 7: rivalry here?
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 9: Nah?
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 2: Me and Corey was training together for the Campine. It's awesome, dude.
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 10: Yeah he col He cool as fuck. We was training,
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 10: We was talking about it. I think he had like
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 10: hurt his ankle or something, so he was just kind
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 10: of rehabbing their XO. So, yeah, we was talking about it. Uh,
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 10: we was talking about who's going first.
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 7: There wasn't a little something there like I want.
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 10: To go to Tennessee. Tennessee came and worked me out
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 10: at Clemson. It was like, yeah, we're gonna draft you.
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 9: That's the crazy thing about the draft. It is why
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 9: lots of your face you know what I mean, I'm
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 9: gonna draft you.
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 2: We love you. If you get to ask this over with,
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 2: everything was smooth, but yeah went the other direction.
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 7: Yes, So when the Titans came on, they were the
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 7: first one to pick right. Yeah, it was That's when
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 7: the domino effect happened because they took Core and they
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 7: took Dori.
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 2: Jafteven six seven. I was seven.
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 7: Yeah, all that had to hurt after me. Yeah, So
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 7: how did you feel when they when they say, hey,
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 7: I'm gonna draft you. Then all of a sudden they
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 7: take another wide receiver.
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 2: It wasn't Trivin, it was Tennessee. So I went really tripping.
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 2: That hurts? Oh that is funny. I was really Trivia.
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 2: I mean Philip Rivers. Yeah, a good situation. Talk about
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 2: Philip Rivers. Great.
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 4: Obviously never got a chance to win the Super Bowl.
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 1: We talk about Phil and then obviously the difference, the
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 1: differences with him and and justin.
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 9: Like I said, being a coach on the field, Phil
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 9: was definitely he ran the whole offense, like meeting room,
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 9: everything go through Phil. Uh, changing players at the line
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 9: field here to play, come in the helmet.
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 2: No, we ain't running that.
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 9: He changed changed the whole play. Uh yeah, without feel
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 9: I ain't.
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 2: I ain't. I ain't I ain't.
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 9: I ain't I probably not here right now. Yeah, Phiel
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 9: was the guy man for sure.
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 7: How long did it take you too to get that
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 7: kind of connection where you're like, this is my dude, Probably.
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 9: About halfway through my rookie season, say your rookie year
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 9: was My rookie year was solid. I wasn't even gonna
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 9: play like that. But then Malcolm Floyd got hurt. Then
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 9: I got right in and I was kind of the
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 9: number one. Uh it was Malcolm Andie Roy. He had
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 9: like a toe injury or something like that, so he
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 9: didn't play that much. So it's really just me and
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 9: Gates and Danny Woodhead.
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 2: So he would that's right, man, damn oh, I would
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 2: hear that. Philip Rivers.
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 1: I don't know how far away he lived, but he
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 1: would be like watching film and doing everything on his car.
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 9: Yeah, he went from here to San Diego, so his
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 9: whole ride is film study.
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 2: He just had a driver in a spinner van.
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure he living like Enciinnita's or something like that.
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 9: Carls Back, Yeah, Rancho Rancho Center.
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 2: I think an hour drive. Yeah, for sure, he ran
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 2: back man Field.
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 9: Lead a game we play Sunday away we get on
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 9: the bus. He already film study and breaking down the
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 9: blitz Blitz tape next team.
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 2: That's fucking wild. He playing around.
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 9: He wasn't because he got to run the Blitz meet.
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 7: He's got to run the So he's studying film for
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 7: the next week already, he's got to do the blitz.
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 7: He already put that one in the past. When you
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 7: guys got the bus. How do you guys feel when
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 7: you're coming back from plays and you might not have
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 7: the best game, Like, how how quick are you to
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 7: watch that film?
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 2: I probably won't watch it.
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 7: You won't watch it really if.
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 2: I had a back game.
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 7: Yeah, So for me, if I had a bad game,
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 7: I would literally be on that plane essentially in a
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 7: blender in a blender ye, just sitting there mentally like
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 7: what the funk happened to you? Myself for the hour
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 7: flight Mason.
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 9: I've been doing essence like high school. Though, you have
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 9: those a couple of bad plays and then all you
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 9: think about is the bad place some five touchdowns, But
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 9: damn I could have caught that one though.
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 7: Yeah, all the time, and it's a mental warfare for sure.
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 7: But I feel like people don't understand, like the NFL
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 7: is really like, you know, to show up on Sundays
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 7: and play like I feel like the casual fan still
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 7: doesn't know that. No, and you go and you have
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 7: a bad game or a game you don't want this,
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 7: this is going to be the one. You see the
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 7: matchup and you're like, I'm going to fucking end this game. Yeah,
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 7: and then it goes to the exact opposite and you're
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 7: like trying to reseat the season fraud Is it over?
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 2: Phrasy? What was it like for you? Your perspective? Philip
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 2: Rivers uh similar Uh.
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 10: I felt like he's someone I needed coming in as
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 10: a rookie, just somebody who was future Hall of Famer. Uh,
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 10: having a guy like Keenan and kind of take a
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 10: lot of pressure, you know off my game just now
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 10: getting all that attention. But yeah, Philip Rivers was like
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 10: somebody that you can go to about anything, you know,
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 10: film study, routes, whatever. I feel like he was a
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 10: coach also like him, like Philip Riverles was just to go.
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 10: He knew the offense so well. It was like, it's crazy,
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 10: what are the differences with him and Justin Herbert.
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 2: I think experience at this point.
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 9: When I got with him, I think he was on
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 9: year ten or eleven, so he already ten years in playoffs.
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 9: The boys was going like fourteen and two every year.
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 9: Back back to LT and them. They was crazy back then,
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 9: so I think definitely experienced. He knew every defense, anything
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 9: you could throw at him. He knew the whole offense.
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 9: So we changing players at the line, like, I don't
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 9: even know what played checking too?
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 2: What's that?
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 10: Bro?
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 6: I don't know.
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 2: I don't know, bro, this is what to do? I
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 2: don't know.
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 1: I mean it was crazy, and dip pointed, how disappointing
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 1: is it when you guys it feels like you have
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 1: great regular seasons, you get super close, you lose a
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 1: close one in the playoffs.
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 4: It seemed like for a minute there, a year in
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 4: and year out.
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's tough.
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 9: Actually, see Sean maryon do an interview the other day,
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 9: he was saying, for them to get for for us
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 9: to get to the playoffs, we got to go through
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 9: Tom Brady, Ben Roethlisberger. Uh well, now it's Pat Mahomes,
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 9: Joe Burrow, Josh Allen like these the guys we gotta
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 9: get past. So, I mean, it ain't like we're playing
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 9: against Division two teams and we just thinking it up right.
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 9: We were playing against some good guys and last year
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 9: we lost to Trevor Lawrence.
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 2: He's a great guy too, so on the comeback, while
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 2: come back, he come back.
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 9: He never supposed to get high like that. That was
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 9: when Steph Cray Ship like just got hot. Like we
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 9: didn't get a stop offense. We couldn't do ship. So
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 9: it can be like that, man, any any.
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 7: Giving you had to go in the halftime being like,
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 7: damn we boys, we had no route here.
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 9: We're one touchdown in the first half and we had
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 9: like five turnovers. So it wasn't it wasn't you were
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 9: playing so bad?
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah they were, they were. Yeah, I don't know. It
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 2: was one of those ones. Man. Yeah, that's gotta be tough. Uh.
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 4: What's it like playing for coach Daley? And do you
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 4: love going for it as much as you guys?
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 2: Do? I love it? Yeah? Yeah, we love it for sure.
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 9: It's another opp you know, we get another opp It's uh,
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 9: we want the ball, man, Like we want the ball.
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 9: We want to lose with the ball in our hands,
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 9: and uh that's what we want to do.
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 1: Y'all are always ready to go for it when he's
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 1: being aggressive because he obviously he'll take a lot of
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 1: heat whenever it doesn't work out and it costs a
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 1: game or whatnot. But are you guys as offensive players? Like,
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 1: are you guys always like hell yeah, let's drop another thing.
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 9: So once he once he makes the call, it's like, oh, yeah,
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 9: for sure, we're going for it. It might be sometimes
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 9: before the car it's like, damn, we gotta punt all.
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 2: We're going for it. Oh ship, let me tighten up,
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 2: let me tighten up.
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, man, I was, uh the Raiders game
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 1: a couple years ago when y'all just kept fucking it
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 1: was like the last couple of series and it it
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 1: felt like it lasted an hour long because y'all kept
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 1: converting a third and long and even fucking fourth and long. Anyway,
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 1: just reminiscent on the old days. Yeah, back when ball
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 1: was life. Yeah, back when was I thrust it. I
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 1: got us into the playoffs, we beat him, almost recovering.
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 1: Then I got a I got a totally different question.
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 1: But we were just in an out burger. We're to
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 1: you has a stance at an out burger as far
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 1: as fast food Burger.
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 2: It's a little bit like Starbucks. It's a little overrated.
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 2: To me, I think it's a little What makes it uprated?
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I feel like it's not the best
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 2: with the burger is a big deal breaker? What's that again?
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 7: You can't get anything with the burger obviously, don't know
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 7: about secret menu shake.
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 2: No, we don't want no animals. But it's overrated, though.
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 2: What's better? A lot of spots better like Burger one.
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  Speaker 7: I'm a five guys, guys, guys, is not a fast
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 7: free places, fast casual.
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  Speaker 2: What what does that even mean? It's no drive through,
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 2: no drive through? Okay, yeah, don't even worry about boys.
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 2: This is going well, This is going.
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 10: Well.
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 2: To go five guys better? That guy is better? Also
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 2: three times as much, is it? Yeah?
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 7: I mean you guys, football does the last forever. You
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 7: guys need to work on your finances. You can't be
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 7: going to five guys every single day. Twenty five dollars
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 7: for a burger I digress.
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 9: That might be the only one that's better. Don't I
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 9: like Burger king to hang them out of you, I
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 9: could do. I'm a whopper.
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 7: That is a that's a wild one.
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  Speaker 2: I'm a. I'm a whopper guy. I don't know why,
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 2: but I don't.
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  Speaker 7: But Burger King, I don't think Burger King's ever had anything.
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 7: It's ever French toasticks. I don't think there's a difference
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 7: between cause crazy.
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 4: Who are a couple of guys that give you problems?
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 2: Back wise? Well lie Backer? So I don't know, mm
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 2: hmm nobody.
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 9: I ain't never really had like one person that really
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 9: gives me problems, Like.
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 2: Okay, who's had your number more more so than you'd like?
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 9: Mmm?
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 2: Revers?
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 9: Reavers did me dirty one time when you played against
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 9: It was my second year and the game plan was like,
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 9: we're not even gonna throw his way.
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 2: We know he's gonna match you today, Kennan, and we're
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 2: not even gonna mess with him. That was the game plan.
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 2: I never feel I've never felt so like, bro, this
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 2: is crazy.
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 9: Ended up having like two catches for one yard. No way,
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 9: I didn't even get open. I ain't gonna hold it.
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 9: I was running route some time, like I know I
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 9: ain't gonna get the bob, but I'm gonna try it
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 9: right here.
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 2: Let me see that was boom Man. He was just
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 2: right thriving me, like no, no, he was tough. Is
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 2: he the goat? There you go. It's not even close.
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 9: Really, yeah, my age I ain't talking about and I
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 9: mightn't play against them, but yeah, it's not even.
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 7: Close imagining that guy.
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 9: Yeah, we came you today and he played for the Patriots,
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 9: so it's like a double yeah, you know, to play
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 9: and he the best, Like, come on, that's cheap.
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 2: How about for you? Mike? I don't know, I ain't
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 2: never really they all be the same. Yeah, they just can't.
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 9: We don't really get matched a lot, man, Mike, don't
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 9: get matched a lot. Like we only got matched by
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 9: Stephan and j C. The Patriots again, that might be it,
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 9: like matched him last year.
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 2: Uh oh.
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 9: Yeah, most of the we don't get it. We don't
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 9: get a lot of it because they gotta go like
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 9: too high. They gotta run shell against us, and they'll
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 9: just double me. You know what I'm saying, Like they're
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 9: gonna Yeah, that's awesome team that plays with men. Honestly,
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 9: it don't even matter who it is. If they play
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 9: man and they don't have help, they're not gonna win.
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 9: I love that answer, Mike, the same Oh to what
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 9: oh they got a roll?
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's one thirty boys. Thanks for joining us.
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 2: For sure, Yes,