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E114 Honi & Michael: From Hustle To Holy Space- How Stillness In Us Transformed Our Marriage · Ascension Alchemists™ — God Led Sacred Marriage For Purpose & Impact. A Couple's Embodied Walk with Presence of God ALMighty

• 0:02
  SPEAKER_03: Blessings and welcome to the Essential Alchemist Podcast.
• 0:05
  SPEAKER_03: It's your host, Reverend Honey Borden.
• 0:07
  SPEAKER_00: And your host, Michael Abramson.
• 0:09
  SPEAKER_03: We're delighted to be with you today as we are continuing the evolution of sacred marriage and sacred partnership.
• 0:20
  SPEAKER_03: And today's topic, Michael and I wanted to express how being present with the presence of God Almighty on a daily basis, how it is changed us from the doing into the being, and how our marriage has shifted into a different expression of love that we are experiencing.
• 0:51
  SPEAKER_03: So we wanted to unpack this and go deeper into it.
• 0:55
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you, honey.
• 0:56
  SPEAKER_00: It's such a deep, enriching conversation.
• 0:58
  SPEAKER_00: And we wanted to thank each and every one of you for joining us today across the world and just taking this moment to really listen with an open heart because I find what honey and I are going through has been so life-changing.
• 1:13
  SPEAKER_00: And it's truly experiential, in which I wish someone may have taught this to us at a younger point of our lives because we keep coming back of like, wow, if I would have only known this earlier.
• 1:27
  SPEAKER_03: It's interesting because we're just about to enter in about a month, we're entering how we met 10 years ago.
• 1:34
  SPEAKER_03: And it was it was beautiful, but it was so wonderful and magical and amazing, yet it was also tumultuous.
• 1:43
  SPEAKER_03: We went through so much and it wasn't fun.
• 1:46
  SPEAKER_03: Our relationship, you know, it would hit these spikes of incredible and then like you know, insane falls.
• 1:55
  SPEAKER_03: And we had so much conflict that we couldn't really move through in a let's say in a gracious way.
• 2:05
  SPEAKER_03: And it took a while.
• 2:07
  SPEAKER_03: So coming, it's like coming into 10 years, we we're so different.
• 2:13
  SPEAKER_03: And where we are now is amazing to experience the space that we've entered.
• 2:24
  SPEAKER_03: Doesn't it seem like we've entered a whole new space as we go into this 10-year?
• 2:30
  SPEAKER_03: And within this space, I'm noticing the different person that I've become.
• 2:40
  SPEAKER_03: And coming off of this whole journey of the menopause and what took place with the presence of Christ and the transformation in me, I'm noticing that it forced me to change.
• 2:56
  SPEAKER_03: It really forced me to change.
• 2:58
  SPEAKER_03: So from that change, I've really moved from that doing into being so present.
• 3:06
  SPEAKER_03: And in this presence, not just present, but being present with the presence of God throughout the whole day.
• 3:15
  SPEAKER_03: It wasn't like before, it was just the morning and sometimes in the evening, but I found myself being so present with the presence of God all throughout the day.
• 3:24
  SPEAKER_03: So I'm noticing me being so different, and I'm noticing you being different, and I'm noticing our relationship is so different.
• 3:35
  SPEAKER_03: It's like it's so funny.
• 3:37
  SPEAKER_03: It's like the relationship that I always wanted, right?
• 3:41
  SPEAKER_03: And that you want it, but we're in it now.
• 3:44
  SPEAKER_03: It's 10 years later.
• 3:46
  SPEAKER_00: And I feel like it's really been a labor of love in which we've recognized not only within a relationship, but I feel as most recognize in a relationship, it takes quite a bit of not just work, but commitment and discipline to really look at the awareness of like why do these patterns come up?
• 4:08
  SPEAKER_00: What's moving through?
• 4:10
  SPEAKER_00: And it does take what you said, presence, and not only presence, but it's like we almost had to like stop, refine, and create this space to really feel and see a deeper lens before because when we met, we were like literally off and running.
• 4:30
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, and for many of us for so many years, for so many years we were running, we were hustling, we were grinding, and it just it's almost comical of like how fast can we move?
• 4:41
  SPEAKER_00: How quickly can we go throughout the day and not pause or take that time and space to really step back and just become aware of what life, what God is giving us right now.
• 4:55
  SPEAKER_00: And I feel that space is really this beingness that again, it requires a very deep level of consciousness to observe it without judging it, being in discernment, but really embracing it and surrendering what a lot of us have been taught of this going, doing, consuming, and stepping back and saying, wait, God has given everything we've already needed.
• 5:24
  SPEAKER_00: Now it's creating that space and that openness for us.
• 5:28
  SPEAKER_00: And don't you believe it really takes an individual journey before we can even unite?
• 5:35
  SPEAKER_00: Because if I'm in a space or you're in a space and there's a lot of contraction or a lot of density, it requires our own inner responsibility of how we meet that.
• 5:46
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, and at the same time, I feel like during that time, it was a season.
• 5:50
  SPEAKER_03: That was a season we were in when we were inside, like when there's a harvesting season, you're not you're extremely active during harvesting.
• 5:59
  SPEAKER_03: You're not sitting back, and we've entered a different season.
• 6:03
  SPEAKER_03: Like we're now in the season that it's it's seeding, right?
• 6:07
  SPEAKER_03: We're seeding, and it's it's very different.
• 6:11
  SPEAKER_03: I don't see how this space that we've entered within, how this would have been applied 10 years ago.
• 6:23
  SPEAKER_03: There is a season for seeding, there's a season for harvesting, there's a season for the fruits, there's all kinds of seasons.
• 6:31
  SPEAKER_03: And in this season where we are, what is interesting, it just happened to be this, it's just, you know what it is?
• 6:40
  SPEAKER_03: It's like the design of God's, let's say, architectural design is so perfect, it's uncanny, like it's truly miraculous.
• 6:54
  SPEAKER_03: For I can only speak from my part right now, and some of the listeners might listen, like going through that menopause journey, and then here is this clear menopause, and it's it it it everything stacking up to bring attention, so then it forces one to completely stop and completely pause, put everything on pause because it's interesting, men on pause.
• 7:24
  SPEAKER_03: So, as I went on pause, you had to go on pause, and there's this been shifting of okay, now the old ways that I was doing things no longer can work for where what is in front of me, what's in front of you, what the divine creator has orchestrated cannot be sustained by these ways of the past.
• 7:51
  SPEAKER_03: So we have to pause, we have to remove our you know, jackets and coats and you know, put the old car garments up.
• 8:00
  SPEAKER_03: And now what's the new way?
• 8:02
  SPEAKER_03: The new way is ease, the new way is within this space, creating space, allowing the debris to shed away, to walk with unwavering faith, complete trust, complete devotion, complete conviction, creating space to so throughout the day we are more present with the one who created us.
• 8:31
  SPEAKER_03: So we're in touch, is that personal relationship with that that living eternal light, that Christ within, so that we can cast the burdens upon the inner Christ, leave them by the wayside.
• 8:44
  SPEAKER_03: So it it opens up so much space on the inside.
• 8:49
  SPEAKER_03: So within that, the breath I found, my breath is easier.
• 8:54
  SPEAKER_03: I've found that I'm much more relaxed in my body.
• 9:00
  SPEAKER_03: In my body, I've moved into this place where my body feels it's in trust.
• 9:07
  SPEAKER_03: I don't experience fight or flight in it.
• 9:10
  SPEAKER_03: I can actually relax in this body, and from there, my mind is erasing what you're gonna do, how you're gonna do it, when you're gonna do it.
• 9:19
  SPEAKER_03: Like it's not there.
• 9:21
  SPEAKER_03: I have moved into this trust that you got this, you're all good to go, and I can I can really be this space of beingness.
• 9:31
  SPEAKER_03: So from here, what's happening?
• 9:34
  SPEAKER_03: I'm finding myself that I'm very present in today.
• 9:40
  SPEAKER_03: And I'm I'm not chasing tomorrow, I'm not chasing next week because I have full trust God's taking care of tomorrow and next month as well.
• 9:51
  SPEAKER_03: So this is a huge one for me, which is contributing to our relationship, to our marriage, because before my signal on the inside, my nervous system would be signaling so much and so concerned about in three months, in six months, and what we had to do.
• 10:12
  SPEAKER_03: And it seemed like my engine was continuously running.
• 10:17
  SPEAKER_03: There was no true rest in that space.
• 10:20
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I believe like when those that are listening, and the lifestyle that sometimes we create and we don't understand how fast we're moving, or sometimes we don't recognize what's going through is that it really takes a reset.
• 10:35
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 10:36
  SPEAKER_00: And that reset, personally, I feel in a relationship has really given ourselves the opportunity to say, okay, what we were doing in the past, we were doing the best that we could.
• 10:49
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 10:49
  SPEAKER_00: And a judgment of how great, challenging, difficult the problems that came up, the triggers that came up.
• 10:56
  SPEAKER_00: Yet in becoming in greater awareness that each of those phases were allowing us to observe and see, wow, here's a greater way we can meet this.
• 11:08
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 11:09
  SPEAKER_00: And I feel what we keep because within this space.
• 11:12
  SPEAKER_00: Because within this space it gives an opening.
• 11:14
  SPEAKER_00: And the other night Because we're not reactive.
• 11:16
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 11:17
  SPEAKER_00: And the other night we were having this conversation over dinner, or right before dinner, it was like, isn't it amazing when you just look at the physiological aspects of the human body and how this body naturally wants to live in peace, be in peace.
• 11:35
  SPEAKER_00: The heartbeat is an appreciation when there's space and opening, the blood flows, the chief flows, the muscles feel relaxed.
• 11:43
  SPEAKER_03: Parasympathetic nervous system is calm.
• 11:46
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 11:46
  SPEAKER_00: And so when we look at what And that the brain is harmonized.
• 11:50
  SPEAKER_00: And when we look at that body's interaction of what it does on a natural basis, then we look within a relationship of where our thoughts and feelings and emotions are like running around like scared chickens without their heads with their heads cut off.
• 12:07
  SPEAKER_00: It's almost like our body is communicating one way, but in our relationship, we're on a whole different level.
• 12:15
  SPEAKER_00: And so I feel like in this reset, what we've learned and what we've practiced is this refinement of creating more space and creating more time to really just be an aware.
• 12:28
  SPEAKER_00: And 10 years we couldn't done that because that consciousness wasn't there.
• 12:33
  SPEAKER_00: We were off running, and perfect timing allows us now.
• 12:37
  SPEAKER_00: And it's like, wow, if my body appreciates peace, my heart likes to be relaxed.
• 12:42
  SPEAKER_00: How then can I attain that when I'm communicating to you?
• 12:46
  SPEAKER_00: When I'm expressing to you, can it be slowed down?
• 12:49
  SPEAKER_00: Can it be brought in a way where we're now communicating more from a place from the heart versus our mind being overloaded?
• 12:56
  SPEAKER_00: Because it was interesting when we were talking the other night, it was like, wow, if we're constantly in stress and we're constantly in this contraction of fight or flight of dysregulated central nervous system, imagine how energetically that places that contraction and limits the space within every aspect of a relationship.
• 13:16
  SPEAKER_00: So I feel like it's like this opening within us to allow our greater love, our greater God essence, our greater being by slowing down, by being.
• 13:27
  SPEAKER_00: And most important, what I felt you said was wow, how many times are we allowing in the relationship versus wanting?
• 13:36
  SPEAKER_00: Because from that want, we know that there is a need, there's a lack.
• 13:40
  SPEAKER_00: And it's like, can I just allow it?
• 13:42
  SPEAKER_00: Which of course takes patience.
• 13:44
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 13:45
  SPEAKER_00: And underneath patience, of course, takes trust.
• 13:48
  SPEAKER_00: And underneath trust takes belief that it will happen without forcing, tugging, pulling, pushing, grinding.
• 13:56
  SPEAKER_00: And it's been this, I feel, beautiful transformation that we've recognized within ourselves.
• 14:02
  SPEAKER_00: But most important for those that are listening, when giving that space in a relationship, it feels like it gives this comfort and ease that allows us to grow deeper in our love.
• 14:17
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 14:17
  SPEAKER_03: So a few things you said that was important.
• 14:20
  SPEAKER_03: And for our listeners, like, you know, maybe some of you can relate to this.
• 14:24
  SPEAKER_03: We're not talking about giving space to each other.
• 14:27
  SPEAKER_03: That's not what I want to just clarify that.
• 14:30
  SPEAKER_03: What we're speaking of is when we are giving ourselves permission to be present, let's say, in the morning, being so committed and devoted to that personal relationship with the one who created us.
• 14:51
  SPEAKER_03: And when we're leaning on that, when we're leaning on that presence to be our provider, to be our defender, to be our protector, to be our redeemer, to be our savior, everything.
• 15:04
  SPEAKER_03: When we're leaning on that, what happens is there's a space opens up because usually our human mind, and we we have been from that striving and from that running around, and also let's say controlling.
• 15:26
  SPEAKER_03: Well, we're we're trying to have the human do it or so from there, it seems like there is a limitation on the inside.
• 15:35
  SPEAKER_03: So we have to, from our human, we gotta put some kind of control of it and dictate the day in a certain way.
• 15:42
  SPEAKER_03: But what happens when we're leaning on the presence of God Almighty, there is a space that opens up because we're giving the power and the will to the one who created us, to the one who knows us, to the one that has designed us for this specific purpose we've been created, the one who knows our destiny before we know it.
• 16:09
  SPEAKER_03: So when we're leaning back on that, what happens?
• 16:13
  SPEAKER_03: There is a relaxation.
• 16:15
  SPEAKER_03: And within that relaxation, I found myself, and it's just more recently, that wow, there's space inside of me.
• 16:24
  SPEAKER_03: So within this space, what happens is in communication with Michael, like even yesterday we were communicating something, and there was something like it was just a slightly different way of seeing something.
• 16:36
  SPEAKER_03: I found myself I was much more compassionate, very gentle, very caring, very loving.
• 16:44
  SPEAKER_03: So, in this space, because the pipes are not backed up, there's a space where God's grace is coming into their relationship, into our sacred marriage, and our sacred marriage is being met with the beauty and care and compassion and understanding of God Almighty.
• 17:09
  SPEAKER_03: So that's where this heavenly kingdom is being experienced within us, and it's so beautiful.
• 17:18
  SPEAKER_03: Versus before it would have easily gone into trigger and into getting mad at each other, and so this is showing us when there is that space, because we have the internal space, that internal space within the marriage has also opened up.
• 17:40
  SPEAKER_03: So, as I allowed it, as you allowed it, so the marriage is not bunched up, contracted, there's space in it, so we can have conversation about conversation, we can have different ways of seeing things, and it doesn't have to go into conference.
• 17:59
  SPEAKER_03: We can have healthy disagreements and talk through it.
• 18:03
  SPEAKER_03: Things aren't so edgy and there is an edge, so there's there's this beauty of like, huh, and even something like yesterday, we were, you know, we there was a conversation we had in the park.
• 18:14
  SPEAKER_03: So, for example, there's space where we can go sit in the park, middle of the day, enjoy the sun, eat and talk.
• 18:23
  SPEAKER_03: There's this there's this space to do different things that is very nurturing and nourishing.
• 18:29
  SPEAKER_03: So, like yesterday, even we talked in the middle of even something you didn't like, but it was while you you were uncomfortable in discomfort, because it was held in this beauty of space, you were able to so beautifully move to the discomfort.
• 18:47
  SPEAKER_03: And that that was such an incredible winning for both of us.
• 18:52
  SPEAKER_00: And I love what how you speak of that because I'm sure the viewers that are listening are curious about this space.
• 18:59
  SPEAKER_00: And I feel in a relationship, especially one that's very committed, mission-driven, and knowing that you're here to serve, that there is an individual responsibility of creating that space.
• 19:12
  SPEAKER_00: And in creating that space, I feel like there's a letting go and releasing a lot of what we've noticed these past several months and probably this year, of old aspects of ourselves that no longer serve, whether it's through forgiveness, whether it's looking at old patterns, a lot of forgiving ourselves, a lot of forgiveness.
• 19:33
  SPEAKER_00: Forgiving ourselves, forgiving each other.
• 19:35
  SPEAKER_00: Forgiving each other.
• 19:36
  SPEAKER_03: Have you forgiven me a lot?
• 19:38
  SPEAKER_00: So many times in the morning.
• 19:40
  SPEAKER_00: I use you.
• 19:41
  SPEAKER_00: But you know what the greatest thing about you?
• 19:43
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I've forgiven you a lot.
• 19:45
  SPEAKER_02: So I have.
• 19:47
  SPEAKER_00: But you know what's great about forgiving the partner?
• 19:49
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, she is just the catalyst, or he or she is just the catalyst to then say, Oh, what is she reminding me, mother, father?
• 19:57
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's always mother, mother.
• 19:58
  SPEAKER_00: It's always it comes back, so it's like a gateway to say, Oh, if I can forgive, then what does that start to do?
• 20:04
  SPEAKER_00: It's gonna lift that heart.
• 20:06
  SPEAKER_00: It starts to lift, but it gains closer to letting go because when we give into forgiveness and we allow, we forgive, it's like I'm allowing myself to let go and release.
• 20:19
  SPEAKER_00: And many times we're resisting, not accepting, because some pain is like that's not right.
• 20:25
  SPEAKER_00: And then all of a sudden I have to do it.
• 20:27
  SPEAKER_00: But can I just forgive and allow?
• 20:29
  SPEAKER_00: And that power of forgiveness that I feel that we've been giving each other opens up more space.
• 20:35
  SPEAKER_00: And then what's really interesting is when we either of us may repeat that same, let's say, behavior, behavior, action, it doesn't create the response.
• 20:48
  SPEAKER_00: Actually, we're able to accept each other more because we've created that sacred space and letting go.
• 20:53
  SPEAKER_00: And what I love about this space, this sacred space that is arising, I feel like it's giving us the opportunity to grow and expand in a part of us that we weren't even aware when we met each other.
• 21:08
  SPEAKER_00: Because we were, when we both met, there was so much happening that we were on survival, Mike.
• 21:16
  SPEAKER_03: Like literally, we were just on survivor.
• 21:18
  SPEAKER_00: And when we're in that survival mode, it's like, how do we create this space just to feel relaxed, to feel peaceful?
• 21:24
  SPEAKER_00: So what I cannot just be more bedazzled by is like, wow, here we are sometimes in a society that wants us to go, that wants us to run, that wants us to keep going.
• 21:34
  SPEAKER_00: But then we're like, wait a minute.
• 21:37
  SPEAKER_00: When we slow down and embrace what life is and still get done the responsibilities, the work and what we have to do, it becomes easier to live together, it becomes easier to express together, it becomes easier to love together because all of a sudden it's like we're not so contracted of all the things we think we have to do or we think we should, because we We're literally slowing down our nervous system, aligning it with our God Almighty presence, and most important, embodying what God designed us to do.
• 22:11
  SPEAKER_00: And it's so funny how it's like taken us to the magical fifth decade of our lives, literally, like five decades, we had to go through this whole journey and now look at wow, who would have ever thought by regulating our central nervous systems, becoming more aware of our thoughts, emotions, mind are not our true reality.
• 22:34
  SPEAKER_00: We're not our mind, we're not our thoughts, we're not our emotions, we're not our feelings.
• 22:39
  SPEAKER_00: It begins to feel like, wow, don't you feel like something's been taken off your shoulders?
• 22:44
  SPEAKER_03: I feel like literally, I I I really feel there there's a part in the Bible that talks about you know the old coat, removing the old coat, right?
• 22:55
  SPEAKER_03: Like there is this old coat that carried so much weight on it.
• 23:00
  SPEAKER_03: And it's the way that we didn't know any better.
• 23:03
  SPEAKER_03: This is you know, coming from the survival brain that as a child we chose to operate this way, one with another.
• 23:13
  SPEAKER_03: Really, like you know, for me, some of you will relate, as a child, the household was not safe.
• 23:21
  SPEAKER_03: So I couldn't be vulnerable, I couldn't be no stable, I couldn't be vulnerable, I couldn't be, I had to be very strong because if I I talked about it before, if if I was a little bit weak, even as a girl, I would I was such a tomboy boy to protect myself.
• 23:39
  SPEAKER_03: So because of that, there was no room for me to, you know, be, I had to always be busy and I always had to be active.
• 23:49
  SPEAKER_03: And also I felt like I was my mom's grandmother.
• 23:53
  SPEAKER_03: So I was so responsible so early on, starting like at the age of five.
• 23:57
  SPEAKER_03: So because of that, doesn't you know that that became the operating system, the survivor operating system doesn't mean that's the way I'm supposed to.
• 24:07
  SPEAKER_03: That doesn't mean that's my truth.
• 24:09
  SPEAKER_03: That's what I this that's what I had to live till you know years later, going through so much thing that's that it on the inside is like, no, this is not the way.
• 24:19
  SPEAKER_03: Something has to change because it well, it didn't just feel good, just a lot of you know health challenges and what have you.
• 24:28
  SPEAKER_03: So coming and I even though I've had a relationship with God, it it I did not have it till the way that I've had it in the last few years, and especially the last three years, that level of conviction and on to this year.
• 24:46
  SPEAKER_03: Oh my goodness.
• 24:48
  SPEAKER_03: So because the presence of God Almighty has been so clear, and I've placed the presence of God first throughout the whole day.
• 24:58
  SPEAKER_03: Like I took my attention off of you, I took my attention off of my kids, I took the attention of my mother and everybody else.
• 25:05
  SPEAKER_03: I put the attention of God, I chose God first, and and then throughout the day, as much as I can, and and going through the day with God's promises over me, what has happened?
• 25:19
  SPEAKER_03: It really has allowed that space of relaxation, relaxation before it became in my body, it was renewed in my mind, Michael.
• 25:30
  SPEAKER_03: So, because my mind was operating from all sorts of ways.
• 25:35
  SPEAKER_03: So as I renewed my mind in God, the relaxation, the peace of God first entered my mind.
• 25:44
  SPEAKER_03: So then while there are 70,000 thoughts through the day, my mind is not rice, racing all these thoughts, there's actual quietness in my thought.
• 25:56
  SPEAKER_03: Isn't interesting, but but what's interesting because for so long I would get up, so many of you would relate, you get up, you're bombarded with just thoughts, it's never-ending thoughts.
• 26:08
  SPEAKER_03: Of course, there are, but they're there, there's not even a quietness inside of you to hear the voice of God.
• 26:16
  SPEAKER_03: So I decided to renew my mind and turn the volume of the voice of the thoughts in me and turn up the volume of God far greater, and that's when in my physical body, the body is peaceful.
• 26:38
  SPEAKER_03: You've noticed I walk, you know, because you see me like usually my walks are so fast.
• 26:44
  SPEAKER_03: You've noticed how slow I walk.
• 26:45
  SPEAKER_00: And you said something very powerful.
• 26:47
  SPEAKER_00: You turn down the volume of your thoughts, yes, and you turned up the volume of God of God.
• 26:54
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 26:54
  SPEAKER_00: Isn't it amazing when you so that I can hear?
• 26:57
  SPEAKER_00: And isn't it interesting that when you turn up the volume of God, it automatically gives you the stability, the security, and the safety because there's that automatic awareness of like God is my source, God is my supply, God is my protection.
• 27:14
  SPEAKER_00: And then that becomes an automatic muscle where it seems that now I'm following my autonomic nervous system because now I'm linking that by placing God first, creates that peace of mind, the peace of mind creates the peace of heart, then everything becomes more relaxed, and in that and in that relaxation, it's like imagine the shoulders come down, things are relaxed, so that we don't have to move so fast, we don't have to be so busy, we don't have to go so hard because there's this automatic knowing that God is here right now with us, and God is helping us see that everything is already happening in his eyes, and all we have to do is trust and have faith.
• 27:58
  SPEAKER_00: But most important, really give our energy to him as much as we possibly can from the moment we wake up and to the moment that we go throughout the day, so that this funny mind that has just been on this old program that has allowed us to continually feed this old story.
• 28:18
  SPEAKER_03: Well, something else, Michael, like in mind, in I can speak in my body, and you can maybe speak on your body.
• 28:26
  SPEAKER_03: So when my mind would race, it was always the list of to-dos.
• 28:33
  SPEAKER_03: And you never like those to-do lists.
• 28:35
  SPEAKER_02: I you never like it.
• 28:36
  SPEAKER_02: I had to do that.
• 28:41
  SPEAKER_00: You all have to-do lists.
• 28:43
  SPEAKER_00: And this is going to be a triggering for most people because I wouldn't see the to-do list for the day.
• 28:48
  SPEAKER_00: I would sometimes casually walk by honey's desk, and it wasn't one through ten.
• 28:53
  SPEAKER_00: It was like one through ten, then the fifteen, then the twenty-five, thirty, then the thirty, and then just like scratch it off.
• 28:59
  SPEAKER_00: I'd be looking at these lists, the to-do lists, and I'm like, man, this looks like my monthly list.
• 29:03
  SPEAKER_00: Here she is, scratching it off, scratching off.
• 29:05
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm like, this to-do list looks like a jail cell.
• 29:09
  SPEAKER_00: It looks like it's incarcerating honey into it because it was like, I gotta do this, this, this, this, this.
• 29:14
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm like, when we have a to-do list, which God bless, I know it's important to write things down.
• 29:20
  SPEAKER_00: God bless, it's good to keep organized, but where is the space in between for the magic of God to bless us in between the to-do lists because we get so busy that we condense and actually just let's check that because that was my way of okay.
• 29:36
  SPEAKER_03: Go ahead.
• 29:37
  SPEAKER_03: We actually take the space, it's true, it's true.
• 29:40
  SPEAKER_00: That space we're talking about.
• 29:41
  SPEAKER_00: As soon as we over-control and try to plan our day from the minute we wake up to the minute we go to bed, we don't put God into control anymore.
• 29:51
  SPEAKER_00: We actually turn our mind and ego and say, I'm controlling the day, and literally God has no power over me because this is what I have to do, and if I don't get it done, and then it's like, wait a minute, but that's what I'm saying, the ego or the God.
• 30:04
  SPEAKER_03: Well, it's not even the survivor brain, right?
• 30:07
  SPEAKER_03: So right.
• 30:09
  SPEAKER_03: So we we we had shared, we had shared before, is because through the human, we've been trying to live life through the human, not with the assistance of God Almighty.
• 30:22
  SPEAKER_03: So when the presence of God Almighty reveals itself to us and we move into that space, we experience that on the inside.
• 30:31
  SPEAKER_03: So then our mind is relevant and is relaxed.
• 30:34
  SPEAKER_03: We don't operate in that way.
• 30:37
  SPEAKER_03: So I have not I have not made to-do lists.
• 30:42
  SPEAKER_03: If I write something down, is because so I actually don't forget, you know, but it's not I have to, it's not that because it's shifted on the inside.
• 30:54
  SPEAKER_03: Part of it is because I don't have to make all of those things to make myself feel safe.
• 31:02
  SPEAKER_00: Because that's what the traditional is.
• 31:04
  SPEAKER_03: That's what it well, safe, but also accomplishment, productivity, so that somehow on the inside we communicate that I'm okay.
• 31:14
  SPEAKER_00: I'm enough.
• 31:15
  SPEAKER_03: Well, I don't it wasn't for me was enough that I'm mostly like I'm okay.
• 31:20
  SPEAKER_03: Like it's almost like you know, when you've grown in an unstable environment where it's been very shaky, stability is everything for you.
• 31:31
  SPEAKER_03: When you haven't felt protection, you know, like for you, these are ways, these are the ways that I have a lot of compassion with this that you somehow develop as a way, as an attempt to protect yourself, make yourself feel okay and be okay.
• 31:46
  SPEAKER_03: And if you do this, then it's somehow on the inside, it's almost like guaranteeing your safety.
• 31:52
  SPEAKER_03: Interesting.
• 31:53
  SPEAKER_00: But but it's I never correlate the I never correlated the to-do list was actually feeling was making you feel more safe and stable.
• 32:02
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, because because you're taking charge, so life bad things don't happen to you.
• 32:08
  SPEAKER_00: And that's even even greater because I would never put the bad things are not happening if I do my to-do list.
• 32:15
  SPEAKER_00: It's very interesting.
• 32:16
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 32:16
  SPEAKER_00: Because then all of us says, because then that belief that belief can also say if I don't do the to-do list, then bad things can happen to me.
• 32:26
  SPEAKER_00: So I must do the to-do list.
• 32:28
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, because it is, it's it is a weird because when life, when you have felt so out of control, I'm talking about people like that have experienced so much trauma, like I have, you know, life happened to you as a child.
• 32:44
  SPEAKER_03: You don't recognize life is happening for you as a child.
• 32:47
  SPEAKER_03: So when these things are happening, whether it's war, whether it's revolution, whether it's guns, whether it's murders, whether it's like, I mean, oh, the the list goes on and on, right?
• 32:57
  SPEAKER_03: Or when when you're experiencing that, you know, you you want to somehow find safety.
• 33:04
  SPEAKER_03: So if you take charge and you control your surroundings, you can feel safer.
• 33:13
  SPEAKER_03: So there's nothing, and some of you may relate, and that's it's beautiful.
• 33:17
  SPEAKER_03: You gotta do what you gotta do.
• 33:19
  SPEAKER_03: There comes a point where then there's a breaking point because it's no longer sustainable.
• 33:25
  SPEAKER_03: So you go through all of that, and you may get, you know, you may have health issues and all of that.
• 33:31
  SPEAKER_03: That's gonna bring you down to your knees.
• 33:33
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 33:34
  SPEAKER_03: Well, you're gonna come down to your knees to then be like, okay, this cannot go on anymore.
• 33:39
  SPEAKER_03: So let me now, because I'm mature enough, I'm older enough, I can handle it, I'm not a child anymore, and I I can manage my inner child better, so I can lean on the presence of God Almighty for my protection, for my safety, for my security.
• 33:57
  SPEAKER_03: And and if you're in a marriage like me and Michael, being able to be vulnerable to share so that way your partner can raise into the role that they're supposed to be, then it gives you the opportunity to actually lean back.
• 34:13
  SPEAKER_03: So there's that space open up because then you know that then I'm more available for listening deeper, I'm more available to be even greater compassionate, I'm more available to preparing food and not have to feel stressed, carrying that level of stress, because I can be more present and I can actually enjoy, enjoy life, like really enjoy life today, not have to be so concerned about what's gonna happen tomorrow.
• 34:46
  SPEAKER_03: These are all the blessings that come.
• 34:48
  SPEAKER_00: But let's just really break it down.
• 34:50
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, go ahead.
• 34:50
  SPEAKER_00: Let's just really break it down why this space is so important.
• 34:54
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm gonna share very true, raw, and real.
• 34:57
  SPEAKER_00: Go ahead.
• 34:58
  SPEAKER_00: We know that both of us before we met, and we've spoken this to many individuals looking for love.
• 35:06
  SPEAKER_00: Many that were like, Well, if you want the one that you love, yeah, you're gonna have to create space in your time.
• 35:14
  SPEAKER_00: And you know, when you look at the people out there that are so busy and they're going, and I have my to-do lists, and I have everything, and I'm I'm so in my lane, and I'm and there's no space.
• 35:24
  SPEAKER_00: There's no space for love.
• 35:25
  SPEAKER_00: There's no space for love.
• 35:26
  SPEAKER_00: Like literally, you're like there's no space for love.
• 35:29
  SPEAKER_00: And everyone's like, Well, I'm I'm manifesting my dream partner, and I'm doing my vision boards, and I'm this, but there's absolutely no space of love because there's no space for yourself.
• 35:38
  SPEAKER_00: So that's true.
• 35:39
  SPEAKER_00: So you create that space for your divine partner, you create your space for your soulmate to come in.
• 35:43
  SPEAKER_00: All of a sudden, you come together, and then all of a sudden it gets busy, and all of a sudden you may have children, all of a sudden you have the job, you have the house, you have all these things, it gets busy, busy, busy.
• 35:52
  SPEAKER_00: But let's just break it down.
• 35:53
  SPEAKER_00: Let's break it down.
• 35:55
  SPEAKER_00: What happens if the ultimate goal is to create the space in our relationship so that we can actually give the love to each other that we've always been dreaming about?
• 36:08
  SPEAKER_00: Meaning, like, meaning like one day I'm just sitting there and honey's like, you know what?
• 36:15
  SPEAKER_00: I'm just gonna fly you.
• 36:17
  SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna fly you to Mexico right now.
• 36:19
  SPEAKER_00: I know right now you'd love to go to the beach and serve.
• 36:22
  SPEAKER_00: And you know what?
• 36:22
  SPEAKER_00: We're just gonna hop on a plane and go because whatever we're doing, we can do on a computer, but that space is so open that maybe there's a dream, maybe there's something that you can surprise the per the person.
• 36:33
  SPEAKER_00: My point being is what happens if that space opens up.
• 36:36
  SPEAKER_02: Did you just land a seat on?
• 36:38
  SPEAKER_02: Did you just see a vision in me?
• 36:42
  SPEAKER_02: That was very clever.
• 36:43
  SPEAKER_02: Were you seating it's when you're seating like a vision?
• 36:47
  SPEAKER_02: You just like inserted a vision into me.
• 36:50
  SPEAKER_00: Look at that.
• 36:51
  SPEAKER_00: That has surf, that has waves.
• 36:53
  SPEAKER_00: But point being is what happens if it gives the opportunity to express love to your partner because there is that space and the joy that we know when we express our love to our partner, it's a direct expression back to us.
• 37:09
  SPEAKER_00: It's like a yeah, it's like a two it's like a two-way street where it gives that opportunity not only to express it, but you receive it at the same time.
• 37:17
  SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
• 37:18
  SPEAKER_00: Imagine for the one, yeah.
• 37:21
  SPEAKER_02: Because you just said something.
• 37:23
  SPEAKER_00: So hold that.
• 37:24
  SPEAKER_00: Imagine for those that are going through challenging times, those that are having difficulties in relationships, those that are like, I just want to create more space.
• 37:32
  SPEAKER_00: Well, what happens if it's just looking at the lifestyle and saying, how can I now open that up in my work, in my childcare, in my job, that there are pockets that give the opportunity to unite our love in the way that God has always intended.
• 37:55
  SPEAKER_00: In the way that we've always dreamed, in the way that beyond every single thing that we think we should have, could have, would have done, there's that opening to say, hey honey, let's get on the paddle board.
• 38:06
  SPEAKER_00: It's a beautiful day.
• 38:07
  SPEAKER_00: Let's allow this because we know by offering that, it's actually allowing our hearts to bond deeper because we're just allowing that sacred space to be seated with the love that we so enjoy to give to each other.
• 38:23
  SPEAKER_03: Absolutely.
• 38:24
  SPEAKER_03: Absolutely.
• 38:25
  SPEAKER_03: You you should you shared it so well, Michael, and two things that I want to share around this.
• 38:31
  SPEAKER_03: One is that as we individually allow this space to open up, this space also forces us to show up differently.
• 38:43
  SPEAKER_03: So, for example, one of the things I I cut back on clients so much, and I chose to only work with only a few select clients.
• 38:53
  SPEAKER_03: And that became raising my prices so much more so that I can give myself the space.
• 38:59
  SPEAKER_03: And that was that stretch that I had to go through.
• 39:02
  SPEAKER_03: And as I did that, that opened up, that also influenced you to be more interesting with the presence of God Almighty, so that you can also shift things yours, so that you can give yourself also space, because that that space let's just be honest.
• 39:24
  SPEAKER_03: A lot of times we want it, but we don't actually allow it, right?
• 39:28
  SPEAKER_03: There's a difference between wanting and actually allowing.
• 39:33
  SPEAKER_00: Because we're being distract distracted by the all the outer things that are taking that time away.
• 39:37
  SPEAKER_03: Absolutely.
• 39:38
  SPEAKER_03: But what I'm saying is there has to actually be an actionable step as well.
• 39:43
  SPEAKER_03: So as I chose those steps, that was the step of love.
• 39:48
  SPEAKER_03: So I can give myself this space because because God Almighty renewed my mind that I've given everything to you, so will I trust it?
• 39:59
  SPEAKER_03: So as a result, I had to let go.
• 40:01
  SPEAKER_03: I had to let go, okay, I'm not gonna serve these types of clients anymore, so I'm gonna move into this.
• 40:07
  SPEAKER_03: So there is an actionable step with that to then allow the space.
• 40:11
  SPEAKER_03: So therefore, that greater love can naturally express out into the relationship between us and be shared.
• 40:22
  SPEAKER_03: So it's almost like I call it it's an expression of the Holy Spirit that freely it's it's it's that innocence and beauty, it's its own child, right?
• 40:33
  SPEAKER_03: So alive that can be between us and is not is not is not going to be put in a box or like in a closet because we are trying to control it.
• 40:45
  SPEAKER_03: We allow it allowed to it's allowed to be free and play and all of that.
• 40:51
  SPEAKER_03: So that becomes an individual responsibility on that, so that the way I saw it was these pipes that are from heaven down to us, they're usually backed up, clocked up by all of these concerns, worries, fears, and stuff we have.
• 41:14
  SPEAKER_03: So when we leave those on the altar of God's heart, and we say, God, I I cast this on you, take it from me, you open it up, so then more blessing comes, more financial blessing comes, more gifts, more opportunity comes because there's space for us to actually freaking receive it.
• 41:35
  SPEAKER_00: Wouldn't you describe it very simple?
• 41:38
  SPEAKER_00: Like when you have a plant and you take a plant and you create you literally replant it in a huge pot.
• 41:52
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 41:53
  SPEAKER_00: And as you take this plant and put it into the huge pot, all the roots have all this space to grow.
• 41:59
  SPEAKER_00: That's right.
• 42:00
  SPEAKER_00: You have all this extra room to say, wow, I was constricted, I was growing in this small little plastic cup that was given, and now I'm placing it in a way that gives me all this space and all this room.
• 42:15
  SPEAKER_00: And before I know it, look what the plant's doing.
• 42:19
  SPEAKER_03: And the plant, however, has the right environment, love, right?
• 42:22
  SPEAKER_03: It has if you that take that plant, if it has to be in the sun and water, but if you put it in a in a dark place, it is not gonna grow.
• 42:32
  SPEAKER_03: Of course.
• 42:32
  SPEAKER_00: But I'm saying the the fact of like imagine when it's placed in an environment that it can grow, or even like when you're a uh a plant is growing, and then all these weeds are growing, and so you're decluttering the weeds, you're decluttering the negative thoughts, you're decluttering the negative emotions, the density.
• 42:49
  SPEAKER_00: It's like, wow, with the proper environment, with the proper light, the proper water, the feeding it of love, the feeding it nutrition, then it grows abundantly, and it's like giving that extra sacred space because, like with all, in that space, there's that less constriction, less contraction, more of a peace and relaxation.
• 43:11
  SPEAKER_00: And honestly, honey, that's how I feel we were meant to live.
• 43:16
  SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
• 43:17
  SPEAKER_00: When we sleep, we don't sleep in stress.
• 43:20
  SPEAKER_00: When we are enjoying, there is a natural relaxation.
• 43:24
  SPEAKER_00: And so when we allow that to go through our own relationship, I feel like what's so beautiful about being in a relationship is we not only unite it within ourselves, but we remind each other.
• 43:39
  SPEAKER_02: That's right.
• 43:39
  SPEAKER_00: When one other person is maybe in that constricted area, hey, do you know are you aware?
• 43:46
  SPEAKER_00: Are you aware that you're a little frustrated?
• 43:48
  SPEAKER_00: Hey, do you know that you just got this blue in the face?
• 43:51
  SPEAKER_00: And the way that we can do that through love, without judgment, through compassion, without negativity.
• 44:00
  SPEAKER_00: Then there's this way that the gift of this relationship, the gift when people are in this space, is we get to help remind each other when we may fall out of that which we do quite a bit, and then come back and saying, Wow, imagine one individual having that space, but then you bring two together.
• 44:20
  SPEAKER_00: And that two go ahead.
• 44:21
  SPEAKER_03: Yes.
• 44:24
  SPEAKER_03: It just landed on me.
• 44:26
  SPEAKER_03: Have you noticed that, for example, this this amazing space that you and I have entered in our sacred marriage that that is so rich, it's so abundant, it's so beautiful, it's truly so heavenly right now.
• 44:40
  SPEAKER_03: It's it's something you and I both always wanted.
• 44:44
  SPEAKER_03: Isn't it interesting?
• 44:46
  SPEAKER_03: It is absolutely not dependent on what we do.
• 44:53
  SPEAKER_03: Isn't it interesting?
• 44:54
  SPEAKER_03: Before we would have to like organize in between our busy event, organize this, organize this, organize this to squeeze in fun so we can have fun.
• 45:04
  SPEAKER_03: Isn't it interesting?
• 45:05
  SPEAKER_03: Here we can just walk to the park right here and sit and do absolutely nothing, and we're just so happy and content.
• 45:13
  SPEAKER_03: Isn't it interesting that we don't have to squeeze like arousal to enjoy, to have like excitement and joy?
• 45:21
  SPEAKER_03: And also that goes with sex, right?
• 45:24
  SPEAKER_03: Like it goes from from that, like you know, having to have sex, like on this idea that it's this way in order for us to feel love.
• 45:34
  SPEAKER_03: Whereas it it's so different because it's throughout the whole day that level of intimacy, that level of care, that level of just just that level.
• 45:44
  SPEAKER_03: Isn't it interesting?
• 45:45
  SPEAKER_03: So it's not like I have to go, I have to go do this and this and this and that to satisfy because that that is a that was with um with our old mind, with this renewed mind, we're so content in the joy throughout the day.
• 46:08
  SPEAKER_03: It's so different.
• 46:10
  SPEAKER_03: And it's shifting, it's shifting that and I'm not relying on you, you're not relying on me.
• 46:14
  SPEAKER_00: It's it's becoming more interdependent of ourselves, and I feel you know, a lot of it, you know, to be virtually honest, is that busyness had to slow down to a point of just recognizing what already God is providing at every moment.
• 46:32
  SPEAKER_00: And I feel in that space of allowing that space of surrender, without giving power away or losing, that that just space that's just ultimately created between the things we think we have to do, and just allow that in a relationship.
• 46:50
  SPEAKER_00: To me, it's like the magic automatically starts to generate because the seeds we've planted, what people love to do in relationship, it's naturally being guided because now it's like the seed of the plants like, oh, now I have space and room to grow.
• 47:05
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, you're not planning so much, so it's just like it's just so organic.
• 47:09
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's it's very it's like I look at it as like a flow that's naturally evolving.
• 47:16
  SPEAKER_00: And you know, when you really see it, our human being has been a human doing life, and we've been programmed to do that.
• 47:25
  SPEAKER_00: There's nothing wrong with doing, but like anything else, if the computer's constantly on and it's constantly running, it's like we don't have to live a life of exhaustion.
• 47:35
  SPEAKER_00: And I feel in our relationship, which I'm grateful for all of the challenges, yeah, all of the areas that have come up.
• 47:45
  SPEAKER_00: It's like a tenure.
• 47:47
  SPEAKER_00: You know, when one graduates as a professor and and and enters their doctrine, it's like I've earned 10 years of math practice.
• 47:56
  SPEAKER_02: Are we gonna give each other medals?
• 47:57
  SPEAKER_02: Well, medals, we should we should really get some kind of I don't want diploma.
• 48:01
  SPEAKER_02: I want what what is that Nobel Prize?
• 48:03
  SPEAKER_02: It's a graduation.
• 48:04
  SPEAKER_02: Why don't we do give a Nobel Prize to each other?
• 48:06
  SPEAKER_00: I think it's a graduation.
• 48:08
  SPEAKER_00: I think it's a it's a completion.
• 48:10
  SPEAKER_02: I I think it's the Nobel Peace Prize.
• 48:14
  SPEAKER_00: All I know, and and for those that are hearing this, it may take you five years, it may take you two years, because the level of consciousness that's shifting in the greater God essence that's not only shining through us, but what we see every day, I believe God is being anchored so deep.
• 48:31
  SPEAKER_03: The key of it is God, Michael.
• 48:33
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 48:33
  SPEAKER_00: And it's being anchored so deep within ourselves, within our relationships, within the world, that when we're together and partnerships and unions and marriages are now anchoring it, then to me it's like the greatest sacred gift to share because with two, we're reflecting that energy back and forth.
• 48:52
  SPEAKER_00: And when we're reflecting that space that we get to celebrate and be joyful and be happy, then I feel like it's this emanation between us that's expanding our and gives others the opportunity to see this is a whole way that it can be done in ease and peace and grace.
• 49:14
  SPEAKER_00: It can be done where you're still, and this is the big living testimony where you can still earn, you can still complete, you can still be as successful.
• 49:25
  SPEAKER_00: And this is the thing that I think a lot of people, especially the minds, are like, wait a minute, if I have more space, am I gonna get done?
• 49:31
  SPEAKER_00: I've noticed personally, our success in our 10 years has been at its highest at this point.
• 49:38
  SPEAKER_00: Our financial success.
• 49:39
  SPEAKER_00: Our financial success and our relationship cut back.
• 49:43
  SPEAKER_00: And our relationship success and our family success.
• 49:46
  SPEAKER_00: The more we've given more sacred space individually within ourselves, and that's requiring healthy boundaries, requiring not letting distractions outside, we are at our highest point because we've actually have embodied that.
• 50:03
  SPEAKER_03: And you really, you, you have really experienced that transformation of financially within you.
• 50:10
  SPEAKER_00: And would you also say when I first met you, that was already within me.
• 50:14
  SPEAKER_00: So when we went to a beach, I would say, honey, just sit on the beach more than an hour.
• 50:20
  SPEAKER_00: I still don't know if I would have known it.
• 50:22
  SPEAKER_00: But but did you see that stillness and that ability?
• 50:27
  SPEAKER_00: But I'm just saying that like you could see that when I would do things, I would have a greater level of patience and stillness to lead through things because to me there was no rush or busyness that I had to be there or do something.
• 50:39
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not saying that's right or wrong, good or bad.
• 50:42
  SPEAKER_00: There's an excitement, there's an excitement energy where there'd be this level of being in a person.
• 50:47
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, we've had two different upbringings, two different operating systems.
• 50:52
  SPEAKER_00: But the gift of like when, say, in a couple, there may be one being that is off the charts going like speedy Gonzalez from the galactic level.
• 51:01
  SPEAKER_00: There may be one person, which someone at one point called me turtle speed, but we know that turtles are full of wisdom.
• 51:08
  SPEAKER_00: That there is this pace where it might seem slow, but not slow because it's just embracing the moment of what life gives us.
• 51:16
  SPEAKER_00: And I feel right now, you've always been amazing at that.
• 51:18
  SPEAKER_00: We've been embracing that.
• 51:20
  SPEAKER_00: Sure.
• 51:20
  SPEAKER_00: We've been doing it more together.
• 51:22
  SPEAKER_00: We can actually go throughout a day without feeling like we have to do something.
• 51:27
  SPEAKER_00: And I'll say, I've noticed it within your sleep, I've noticed it within our peace.
• 51:34
  SPEAKER_00: And most important, I've noticed it in our relationship of just feeling this deeper level of trust and faith because now it's not as tight and contracted.
• 51:46
  SPEAKER_00: And I feel part of it, what we've been doing, we've been unwiring, unlock like literally detaching the aspects of who we are so that greater space can open up, letting go of fears, letting go of worries, letting go of stress, letting go of old programs.
• 52:02
  SPEAKER_00: It's like literally letting go of the old self so that our true self, our God self, can finally come through and be in this divine relationship that's allowed us to live in our greater space.
• 52:14
  SPEAKER_03: How our marriage co go to where it's destined to go, to lead where it was always designed to go, like how the vision was coming.
• 52:26
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, this is so good.
• 52:27
  SPEAKER_03: This was so good.
• 52:28
  SPEAKER_03: So, Michael, let's have a quick little recap.
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  SPEAKER_03: I'm gonna ask you if I if some of our audience wants to know, like on a personal level, if you were to say five to seven things that you do every single month, that you've been so intentional that's made the change in you.
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  SPEAKER_03: What are those?
• 52:46
  SPEAKER_03: Quickly go through them.
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  SPEAKER_00: Immediate gratitude.
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  SPEAKER_00: Number two, self-love activities, expressing self-love within myself.
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  SPEAKER_00: Number three, forgiveness.
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  SPEAKER_00: Number four, celebrating, counting the wins in my day to build my confidence and build my strength, physical exercise, whether it's walking, going to the gym, getting outside, increasing faith, belief, trust within myself.
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  SPEAKER_00: And finally surrender, surrendering the resistance that wants to fight in my mind of something that wants to somewhere come up and grab my horns.
• 53:33
  SPEAKER_03: I love it.
• 53:35
  SPEAKER_03: There's one, may I add one to you as well?
• 53:38
  SPEAKER_03: Sure.
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  SPEAKER_03: You actually have increased your expression of love towards me more.
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  SPEAKER_00: And you know why?
• 53:51
  SPEAKER_00: I tell you why.
• 53:52
  SPEAKER_02: If you want to say why.
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  SPEAKER_03: So thank you.
• 54:28
  SPEAKER_00: I appreciate that because that was faster than I could imagine, Radal.
• 54:31
  SPEAKER_03: You did, you said that really, really quickly.
• 54:33
  SPEAKER_00: What was interesting about all of those, for those that are interested in the life mentoring that both Honey and I do individually, and as a divine union, those are all pieces of the puzzle that I work with clients in embodying.
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  SPEAKER_00: So if I could turn the question to you, and you were to say five to seven areas that you really could apply within yourself, what would you give the audience?
• 54:55
  SPEAKER_03: Well, not could apply.
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  SPEAKER_03: I have been applying.
• 54:58
  SPEAKER_00: I'm sorry, have been applied.
• 55:00
  SPEAKER_03: That's okay.
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  SPEAKER_03: So, first thing, first and first, first, first.
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  SPEAKER_03: God is the source of everything.
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  SPEAKER_03: My having my entire consciousness and entire focus placed on the presence of God over me in me and over my life.
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  SPEAKER_03: That's absolute number one.
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  SPEAKER_03: Number two is changing, changing my food, my relationship with food has been very, very important.
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  SPEAKER_03: So I've recently added fish and changing a few things.
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  SPEAKER_03: That was very necessary.
• 55:38
  SPEAKER_03: Just because I operated this way here for so long, I had to shift things.
• 55:44
  SPEAKER_03: So being being totally okay with shifting the foods around, that is for this season of my life.
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  SPEAKER_03: Number three, being being much more vulnerable in communication and being able to say, being able to be very courageous about the areas that are vulnerable, that has been but to the right person, to the right person, and the ability to actually say that, not keep it on the inside.
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  SPEAKER_03: Number four, having not boundary on other people, putting a boundary on myself, the boundary of absolutely not accepting any kind of negative thought that my thoughts come in, they are not permitted, not allowed to enter my field.
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  SPEAKER_03: So putting the strongest boundary on that.
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  SPEAKER_03: I don't know what number we are.
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  SPEAKER_03: Number six.
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  SPEAKER_03: Number six, this is a very important one.
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  SPEAKER_03: What really has helped is to change the way that I see you.
• 57:04
  SPEAKER_03: Not anything like that.
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  SPEAKER_03: I'm smiling.
• 57:15
  SPEAKER_03: If he's behaving this way does not mean he's not a man of God, he just may not be aware of it right now.
• 57:23
  SPEAKER_03: So let me remind him that he's a man of God.
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  SPEAKER_01: In love.
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  SPEAKER_03: In love.
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  SPEAKER_03: So I'm not like, so I don't have to get angry, I don't have to get fresh, I don't have to get frustrated.
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  SPEAKER_03: And number seven is allowing myself to really, really receive God's blessing in all ways, in all kinds of ways in my life, allowing for me to be in this space of receptivity where I'm receiving the goodness, the greatness of life, the way God has already blessed me, but I can actually experience it so I can bring the blessing into this life far greater.
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  SPEAKER_00: Hallelujah.
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  SPEAKER_03: Those are some of the lessons.
• 58:15
  SPEAKER_00: I hope that each and every one of you could hear that because out of this whole episode, I feel these last couple minutes of what we've had to do to shift and change, these are all simple yet profound levels.
• 58:33
  SPEAKER_03: And there's so much more.
• 58:35
  SPEAKER_00: Daily practice, discipline, commitment, and responsibility.
• 58:39
  SPEAKER_00: Some words that may all be triggering, but when we use the discipline to be disciplined to our guide nature, not a punishment, but to what we were brought here to do, then it just becomes a daily practice that becomes easier as we go.
• 58:55
  SPEAKER_00: Practice makes perfect.
• 58:56
  SPEAKER_00: And I thank you, honey, because I feel by sharing this in our experiential practice and living it shows the fruits that we're able to not only share, but to live as an example and show that each and every being has the ability to do this.
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  SPEAKER_00: We are no different than you.
• 59:17
  SPEAKER_00: And each of you can do this, have the opportunity to do it.
• 59:21
  SPEAKER_00: It just becomes creating that sacred space that allows us to grow into the fullest version that we're here to do of what God has already declared us to do.
• 59:32
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, destined us to do.
• 59:34
  SPEAKER_03: And I feel that for those of you who listen to this, if this has quite a bit of value for you, please share it with somebody else.
• 59:42
  SPEAKER_03: And for those of you who are struggling, it's okay.
• 59:44
  SPEAKER_03: Just know we truly believe we went through it, we've struggled, and we've pulled ourselves out of it so we know what that walk is, so we can help others, and especially if you're a couple, you're you know you're in a mission-driven, you know, God-oriented marriage partnership, you've come together, we'll be more than happy to help you because the most important part of this is accountability.
• 1:00:10
  SPEAKER_03: Now we can we are very blessed, we can hold each other accountable and remind each other, and also our accountability is with us.
• 1:00:18
  SPEAKER_03: So sometimes we can, if you need extra help, we can truly help in that mentorship.
• 1:00:26
  SPEAKER_03: And that's where I believe because we've walked it, we are a living testimony of what's possible, and we can help you navigate.
• 1:00:35
  SPEAKER_03: So feel free to reach out info at ascensionalchemist.com and we will definitely customize one for you.
• 1:00:42
  SPEAKER_00: And we're so grateful that two weeks from today, I will be having our next conscious of all men's gathering where I'm hosting a dear brother, Mr.
• 1:00:52
  SPEAKER_00: Michael Mitucci.
• 1:00:53
  SPEAKER_00: Yay! And I'm so excited because he's a dear friend I've known for as long as I've met honey, 10 years.
• 1:01:01
  SPEAKER_00: And it's going to be an opportunity on Wednesday, October 28th at 8 p.m.
• 1:01:07
  SPEAKER_00: So please, for those men and ladies that you would like to invite your brothers, husbands, fathers, sons, this is a great opportunity for men to come together to be respected, honored, and held in its highest level of light.
• 1:01:19
  SPEAKER_00: So their fullest version come out.
• 1:01:21
  SPEAKER_00: Email me at info at ascensionalchemist.com.
• 1:01:25
  SPEAKER_03: Finally, next week Wednesday, we have our true prosperous living mentorship.
• 1:01:30
  SPEAKER_03: So what we are experiencing in this walk, Michael and I are allowing it in ourselves and experiencing a greater prosperous way of life.
• 1:01:40
  SPEAKER_03: So we're going into the 10th martial.
• 1:01:42
  SPEAKER_03: It's been an incredible almost a year mentorship, and you can sign up and experience all the different replays that we've had, and it is life transformative.
• 1:01:54
  SPEAKER_03: If you truly want to experience a prosperous life under the provision and governance of the God Almighty, you'll see what we have allowed within ourselves and what we are sharing.
• 1:02:09
  SPEAKER_03: So you too have that opportunity.
• 1:02:11
  SPEAKER_03: So feel free to reach out.
• 1:02:12
  SPEAKER_00: And after this episode, I tell you, I don't know if you're feeling it, audience, but I feel like creating even more sacred space for myself and for this relationship.
• 1:02:22
  SPEAKER_00: Like it really gives the ability to say, What am I saying?
• 1:02:25
  SPEAKER_00: Of course I'm inspired because I'm in literally to a point of saying, How can I create more space for God to bring the essence of the magic?
• 1:02:34
  SPEAKER_00: Because all of the prayers, all the dreams, all that we've been putting out of what we know requires that space.
• 1:02:42
  SPEAKER_00: And imagine now it's like, hmm, how can I create more space throughout my day, throughout my week, throughout my month and year, so God can sprinkle everything that's been destined for us.
• 1:02:54
  SPEAKER_03: Totally.
• 1:02:55
  SPEAKER_03: I have one more, one more tiny one I have to add to my list because I feel we dishonor if I don't say it.
• 1:03:02
  SPEAKER_03: It's been what we number eight.
• 1:03:05
  SPEAKER_03: It would be the deeply, deeply, deeply, deeply daily being in a prayer and being in the what the God's promises has been over our life.
• 1:03:21
  SPEAKER_03: I feel, and a lot of it comes from scriptures.
• 1:03:25
  SPEAKER_03: That has made a ginormous difference.
• 1:03:27
  SPEAKER_03: I just had to honor that.
• 1:03:29
  SPEAKER_03: I had to honor that because that that Christ's presence with that daily prayer, living a life of devotional prayer.
• 1:03:38
  SPEAKER_03: Wow.
• 1:03:39
  SPEAKER_00: Prayer is your daily activation, inspiration, yeah, conviction.
• 1:03:43
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's my conviction.
• 1:03:45
  SPEAKER_00: So thank you.
• 1:03:45
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I had to add that.
• 1:03:46
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• 1:04:15
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• 1:04:17
  SPEAKER_03: Have a beautiful, blessed day, and thank you so much.
• 1:04:19
  SPEAKER_03: Thank you, Michael.
• 1:04:20
  SPEAKER_03: Thank you, honey.
• 1:04:21
  SPEAKER_00: This was a great episode.
• 1:04:22
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• 1:04:25
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