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RHONJ: Is It Time for the Gorgas to Go? PLUS Love After Lockup's Monique & Derek · Reality with The King

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  Speaker 1: Their time is up.
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  Speaker 2: Teresa already says she's never talking to them again, and
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  Speaker 2: that makes me even sad to repeat that because I
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  Speaker 2: have nine siblings and I know how much family means
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  Speaker 2: to me. But I have to admit if I was
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  Speaker 2: in Teresa's shoes, and if I saw my sibling use
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  Speaker 2: the show to start drama, allegedly to get a buck,
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  Speaker 2: I won't talk to them either. Stay tuned, we'll be
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  Speaker 2: still talking and tweeting about. On this episode of Reality
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  Speaker 2: with the King, I would get my thoughts on whether
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  Speaker 2: or not it's time for the Gorgas.
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  Speaker 1: To leave the Real Housewives of New Jersey.
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  Speaker 2: I know, I know, child if that's a scandalous question,
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  Speaker 2: but I really can't wait for you all to hear
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  Speaker 2: my thoughts has their time on the showrunner's course.
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  Speaker 1: Hmmm, let's discuss.
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  Speaker 2: But before we get into all of that, Child, I
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  Speaker 2: talked to one of my favorite couples.
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  Speaker 1: On reality television.
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  Speaker 2: No, I'm not talking about doctor Wendy and her fine
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  Speaker 2: husband Eddie. Hey, happy Eddie. Yes, I talked to one
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  Speaker 2: of my other favorite couples. Love After lock Up starts
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  Speaker 2: Monique and Derek. Yes, Child, we are getting into love
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  Speaker 2: at the lock Up on the podcast, I spoke to
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  Speaker 2: them about the relationship, family issues with Derek's sisters, and more.
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  Speaker 2: Let's get into an excerpt from my interview with Monique
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  Speaker 2: and Derek. Okay, Ray drops, Yeah, look, I ask.
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  Speaker 1: Bully and received. I tweeted that after watching Love After lock.
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  Speaker 2: Up, which is my newest obsession, I said, I must
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  Speaker 2: talk to Monique and Derek.
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  Speaker 1: I love the cast. I'm biased.
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  Speaker 2: I love Monique and Derek the most.
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  Speaker 1: I'm invested. I'm into it.
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  Speaker 2: I'm happy to report that Carlos King is talking to
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  Speaker 2: the stars not only of Love After lock Up, but
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  Speaker 2: also life after lock Up. I'm talking about the breakout stars.
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  Speaker 1: Monique and Derek. How y'all doing. I'm good. You look
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  Speaker 1: as beautiful as ever. Monique, thank you, Derek. You look
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  Speaker 1: all right too.
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  Speaker 2: I told people, I said, look, Derek's very handsome, He's
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  Speaker 2: easy on the eyes.
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  Speaker 1: And Derek, I think you know that, don't you.
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  Speaker 3: I appreciate everything, thank everybody for the compliments, but it's
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  Speaker 3: all only couple of matter.
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  Speaker 4: It's hers.
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  Speaker 2: How does it feel to be celebrities? Is that something
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  Speaker 2: that the two of you are getting used to?
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  Speaker 5: It's definitely taking some time to get used to because
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  Speaker 5: I'm a pretty quiet, reserved person.
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  Speaker 2: So I don't know if I would call you quiet
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  Speaker 2: and reserve money bag Monique.
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  Speaker 6: No, I really am, though.
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  Speaker 5: So it's like when people approach me on the space,
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  Speaker 5: it's kind of like I have social anxiety.
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  Speaker 7: It's like, what do you know?
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  Speaker 6: Everybody call me cousin sister, but it's all of.
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  Speaker 2: No even with me, Like, look, I have been producing
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  Speaker 2: reality TV for over fifteen years. I feel like you
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  Speaker 2: to our family because you two are so authentic when
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  Speaker 2: it comes to living your life on the show. So,
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  Speaker 2: first of all, Monique made you go on Facebook and
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  Speaker 2: hit the tab of a pin pal penitentiary program.
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  Speaker 1: To find love.
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  Speaker 7: I actually was not searching for a pen pal.
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  Speaker 5: I actually was just uglate and not on Facebook just scrolling,
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  Speaker 5: you know how, like you just be nosy, just scrolling
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  Speaker 5: on everybody page or like a news peak. So I
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  Speaker 5: had came across like this little pin pal thing or whatever,
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  Speaker 5: so I clicked on it and the first thing I
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  Speaker 5: saw was Derek's picture, and I was more and so
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  Speaker 5: attracted to what he wrote and what he said rather
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  Speaker 5: than his pictures. And it said he was getting out
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  Speaker 5: in like three months because he was still serving his
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  Speaker 5: fed time.
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  Speaker 7: So it took me like actually a couple of days
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  Speaker 7: to like reach out to him.
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  Speaker 6: So text him.
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  Speaker 2: So, Derek, you are allowed to have a phone in prison,
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  Speaker 2: because she just said she texts you.
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  Speaker 3: No, not allowed to have a phone, but we have
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  Speaker 3: our ways to text, Like it's a third party service
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  Speaker 3: that you might be able to like get to forward pictures.
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  Speaker 3: You taket a picture and they nailed the pictures to you.
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  Speaker 5: He didn't have a sebhone in prison. It was just
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  Speaker 5: how the prison system work. They had a number where
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  Speaker 5: you can.
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  Speaker 2: So what was it that he wrote that made you say,
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  Speaker 2: let me give this guy an opportunity to get to
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  Speaker 2: know me and each other better.
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  Speaker 6: Basically you just.
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  Speaker 5: Seemed like a really smart intelligent person. He basically was
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  Speaker 5: looking for a friend. He didn't seem like the typical
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  Speaker 5: like jail dude, Like he was basically looking for a
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  Speaker 5: friend like and I was just intrigued by it.
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  Speaker 6: And like, plus he was getting.
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  Speaker 7: Out in a couple of months, so.
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  Speaker 6: I was like, we can to see the word go.
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  Speaker 4: You know, I ain't had to say much.
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  Speaker 3: It ain't take much, didn't take much, but I said
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  Speaker 3: said all.
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  Speaker 4: The right things.
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  Speaker 5: He basically you said all the right things, and I
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  Speaker 5: felt like, you know, we would have had a good connection.
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  Speaker 6: So I didn't go into it.
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  Speaker 5: Like this, this is just going to be my man
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  Speaker 5: or whatever. I'm just like, oh, he's seemed like a
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  Speaker 5: pretty cool person.
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  Speaker 4: Because she was she was still playing the field.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I was still saying another man, you know what
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  Speaker 5: I'm saying. But I wasn't getting that.
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  Speaker 4: Emotional connection connection with and she'd get for me. And
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  Speaker 4: I gave her.
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  Speaker 3: I gave her everything that they wasn't giving it. I
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  Speaker 3: was getting it to her from jail from prison.
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  Speaker 5: So it's like when I first reached out to him,
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  Speaker 5: it was like we was bonded and connected.
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  Speaker 4: We know each other, didn't know each other as a
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  Speaker 4: friend first, so it was more so it was like
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  Speaker 4: the word she used it I love so much, was
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  Speaker 4: she said no pressure.
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  Speaker 3: So it was like, that's how I'm open minded. So
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  Speaker 3: when she was saying no pressure, so it wasn't like
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  Speaker 3: I'm forcing a relationship or friendship or anything. It was
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  Speaker 3: just like organically informed by I was just talking to
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  Speaker 3: each other, getting to know each other, what she liked,
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  Speaker 3: what I like, and it was just coming all together
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  Speaker 3: like that.
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  Speaker 4: We were just laying the foundation to what you see today.
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  Speaker 2: Was Monique the first woman to hit you up as
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  Speaker 2: a pen pal that was not in prison, not at all.
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  Speaker 3: It's plenty of other women women two And I told
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  Speaker 3: her that that's the good thing about it.
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  Speaker 4: I was honest about that, and she knew that.
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, you ain't the only one, and yeah, you
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  Speaker 3: probably gonna ask when did we make it official? And
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  Speaker 3: that's when I stopped that because it was I was
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  Speaker 3: getting a lot of motions. I have motion, and she
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  Speaker 3: I told her that I have motions, not just not
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  Speaker 3: just bbw's either, not just I had another flavors too, shape,
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  Speaker 3: the sizes, I had, all the other colors real hard
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  Speaker 3: because it was the others, you know. Quote unquote, my
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  Speaker 3: preference was they was hitting me up too. So I'm
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  Speaker 3: just saying I gotta put out there. I gotta let
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  Speaker 3: my baby know it wasn't just everybody think it was
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  Speaker 3: just hurt that restout.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, it wasn't just hurt there.
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  Speaker 6: We know it wasn't just me.
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  Speaker 4: We know, but they don't know.
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  Speaker 6: The definitely knows.
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  Speaker 1: Well.
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  Speaker 2: One of the things that we want to know, Derek,
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  Speaker 2: is the fact that your sisters made comments that Monique
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  Speaker 2: was not the stereotypical type of woman that you were
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  Speaker 2: accustomed to, and they questioned your attraction to her. So
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  Speaker 2: when you talk about these other women who signed on
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  Speaker 2: the pen pal penitentiary program on Facebook, what were some
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  Speaker 2: of the type of women that you were dating, what
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  Speaker 2: they look like prior.
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  Speaker 4: To me being incarcerated or the ones that was reaching
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  Speaker 4: out to me?
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  Speaker 2: Well, well, the one your sisters said they're used to
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  Speaker 2: you being we so before you were incarcerated.
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  Speaker 3: My sister's speaking on like the preference I was with
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  Speaker 3: prior to me being incarcerated, that more looked like five
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  Speaker 3: to five to like probably five a taller women, light skinned,
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  Speaker 3: long hair, light oss with you know, nobody slim thick.
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  Speaker 4: That's what they called them slimtik. Now that was prior
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  Speaker 4: to incarceration.
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  Speaker 3: Now the ones that was reaching out to me was
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  Speaker 3: different shapes and size, of different nationalities because they've seen
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  Speaker 3: different things in me, just like Monique.
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  Speaker 4: It wasn't really so much my look Monique went.
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  Speaker 3: You know, they attracted her. It was what I said
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  Speaker 3: versus another female. She might have been attracted by my
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  Speaker 3: looks and it probably been.
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  Speaker 4: Like I would say, my preference at a time.
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  Speaker 3: We kind of you know, you have sexual attraction, physical
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  Speaker 3: attraction that you have emotional attraction too that spiritual attractions too,
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  Speaker 3: so it'd be different when it came to the you
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  Speaker 3: know the pinpol thing.
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  Speaker 1: Are you sexual attracted to Monique?
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  Speaker 4: Yes, I am. We have good sex every night.
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  Speaker 3: You know it's good like she bring She balanced me
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  Speaker 3: and I balance her because sometimes she can be reserved.
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  Speaker 3: I gotta make her smile happy and people don't understand that.
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  Speaker 3: And it's like Monique laugh and she having a good time.
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  Speaker 3: She bent over like a little twerking and feel me.
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  Speaker 3: That's me Monique. No, she's not really liked it, but
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  Speaker 3: I can bring that out her because I can bring
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  Speaker 3: her sexty nays out of you know, it's just you
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  Speaker 3: know it would work for us. That's what worked for us.
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  Speaker 3: We compliment each other.
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  Speaker 2: Monique, one of the questions I had was questioning whether
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  Speaker 2: or not you had any insecurities. Right, A lot of
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  Speaker 2: people feel like, Monique, there's some insecurity is going on
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  Speaker 2: with you, which is why you decided to meet the
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  Speaker 2: man that you love of who was in prison.
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  Speaker 1: What do you have to say for people who believe that.
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  Speaker 2: Because you are a beautiful woman, and I believe that
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  Speaker 2: you can obviously GeTe the man you want to that
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  Speaker 2: you set your heart out to, why do you feel
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  Speaker 2: the need to be with the man at the time
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  Speaker 2: that was in prison versus men that you were able
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  Speaker 2: to physically see.
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  Speaker 5: Well, I never understood the whole insecurity concept that people
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  Speaker 5: were saying about me on the show because before I
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  Speaker 5: met Derek, and when I met Derek, I was dating people.
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  Speaker 5: I was dating other man, I was going out having fun,
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  Speaker 5: living my life. I didn't feel the need to go
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  Speaker 5: online and search for a men in prison because that
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  Speaker 5: never was my intention. I just so having came across
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  Speaker 5: him or whatever the case may be. Derek will tell
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  Speaker 5: you when me and him first met, I didn't take
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  Speaker 5: him serious until maybe like the first year, and like
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  Speaker 5: he knew, I was still done on my ex at
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  Speaker 5: the time. I was still dating, going out, having fun,
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  Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. So it wasn't like I
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  Speaker 5: was hard.
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  Speaker 6: Up for a man. The only thing that I was.
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  Speaker 5: I wouldn't even say that I was insecure about. I
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  Speaker 5: knew Derek haven't dated any BBWs other than me, But
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  Speaker 5: he reassured me all the time, like he loves me.
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  Speaker 7: He doesn't really care.
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  Speaker 6: About my size, you know.
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  Speaker 7: So I wasn't secured about that at all.
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  Speaker 4: I'm gonna touch on a little bit too beautiful.
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  Speaker 3: I turned out of a time. Any woman wants confirmation, affirmation,
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  Speaker 3: I give it to her. And a lot of times
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  Speaker 3: I didn't even know I had a type until my brother,
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  Speaker 3: my brothers and sisters we went down the list of
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  Speaker 3: my priors and it dawned on me I did have
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  Speaker 3: a type.
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  Speaker 4: But they knew then that was the type.
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  Speaker 7: Back then it was nineteen tween, nineteen years old.
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  Speaker 4: Now they didn't they It's gone almost a decade.
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  Speaker 3: So I grew up as a man and now I
• 11:47
  Speaker 3: have different criteria and Monique's that criteria.
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  Speaker 4: Talk about that too. We can talk about that.
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  Speaker 2: And we will, and we will a lot of people,
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  Speaker 2: including myself, we question whether or not you really want
• 12:04
  Speaker 2: to be with Monique because Monique appears that she pays
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  Speaker 2: for everything. And one of the things that I wanted
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  Speaker 2: to address is are you attracted to Monique physically or
• 12:15
  Speaker 2: are you attracted to Monique's wallet, her bank account, her savings,
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  Speaker 2: her her her money market, and her CDs.
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  Speaker 3: The emotional connection was first. The physical connection came after,
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  Speaker 3: and then everything else that came with Monique came after that.
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  Speaker 2: Why is Monique spending all her money on the relationship
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  Speaker 2: and it appears that you don't meet her halfway?
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  Speaker 4: I do. That's why we still together because I do Monique.
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  Speaker 6: Of course he does.
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  Speaker 2: Then why did you go to the grocery store that
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  Speaker 2: by Monique's plastic flowers?
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  Speaker 3: Then, Derek, I really didn't think Monique was going to
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  Speaker 3: come after all the things that we've been through come back,
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  Speaker 3: So it's like.
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  Speaker 4: Spirit a moment. I got her something the count. I
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  Speaker 4: can't get that the count, and I got her some
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  Speaker 4: other things too. I made so she was happy and
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  Speaker 4: put a small on her face too.
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  Speaker 1: Where do you get your money from? Derek?
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  Speaker 4: I say, that.
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  Speaker 3: Did you watch the episode when I came home with
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  Speaker 3: some money that went to the bank with and then
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  Speaker 3: I had I had some investment I had before I
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  Speaker 3: got locked up to I had some support.
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  Speaker 4: I have my family who supported me.
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  Speaker 3: Not my sisters, you know, I had some grandparents things
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  Speaker 3: like that that helped me invest my money, and some
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  Speaker 3: lawyers too.
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  Speaker 6: Like there, it came home with.
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  Speaker 3: Money exactly, But you know the way the it kind
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  Speaker 3: of played like a little snippet when I was in
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  Speaker 3: the bank and deposit that was my money. It was
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  Speaker 3: a snippet one thing about me. I saved my money
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  Speaker 3: and I spend my money on me and her.
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  Speaker 4: That's it. So that's why we're both happy as a partnership.
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  Speaker 4: And that's that's that's us.
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  Speaker 1: Monique. Where did you get your money from?
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  Speaker 6: I work?
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  Speaker 2: I say, according to the show, it says you are
• 13:48
  Speaker 2: a receptionist at an animal hospital.
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  Speaker 1: Is that still the case? Mm hmm.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: When we see the show, Monique, we see moments of
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  Speaker 2: you tapping Derek's phone. You go through his phone when
• 14:05
  Speaker 2: he was out to dinner once you FaceTime him and
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  Speaker 2: you wanted to see the circumference of the room. And
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  Speaker 2: that's also the other reasons why a lot of people
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  Speaker 2: think you are insecure, because those appear to be behavior
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  Speaker 2: of an insecure woman.
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  Speaker 1: So explain to us why.
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  Speaker 2: You feel the need to monitor Derek in the ways
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  Speaker 2: that you do well.
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  Speaker 6: Prior to there.
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  Speaker 5: Getting out, we had the issue before where he wasn't
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  Speaker 5: honest about a woman he.
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  Speaker 2: Was dealing with, a woman he was dealing with while
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  Speaker 2: he was in prison.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, So when.
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  Speaker 5: I got the phone, I was just like, Okay, this
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  Speaker 5: should be able, you know, to help me kee teps
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  Speaker 5: on who he's calling, who he's.
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  Speaker 6: Texting, and I mean, the only thing I said on.
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  Speaker 5: The phone was like, share his location with me, Like
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  Speaker 5: couples do that all the time.
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  Speaker 3: But you forgot about this though. And it's come from
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  Speaker 3: a good place too. She wanted to make sure I'm
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  Speaker 3: out in trouble though, So I like that too. It's
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  Speaker 3: like a motherly instinct one has, and she's very protective
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  Speaker 3: and I understand that why she did that. You want
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  Speaker 3: to know where I'm at, what I'm doing, so I can.
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  Speaker 4: Stay out of prison, they out of trouble. So it's
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  Speaker 4: kind of twofold.
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  Speaker 5: Plus I was in Ohio, well, I was in Cleveland.
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  Speaker 5: He was just getting out, like he really didn't know
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  Speaker 5: his way around or whatever. If he gets lost to
• 15:14
  Speaker 5: be able to find him.
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  Speaker 1: Are you trying to like me?
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  Speaker 2: Listen, big, let's let's let let's keep it all the
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  Speaker 2: right brill okay, because I am a fan of Derek
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  Speaker 2: and Monique and I want to see y'all together as
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  Speaker 2: long as it's healthy and y'all happy.
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  Speaker 1: So look, I have shared my.
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  Speaker 2: Own personal experience when I was in a relationship and
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  Speaker 2: I went through my guy's phone, so we all do
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  Speaker 2: it now. Look, I call bullshit on well, you know,
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  Speaker 2: I wanted to make sure he was safe, man like
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  Speaker 2: like like for it's you die, it's you gonna die,
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  Speaker 2: So let's call it what it is.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: Obviously, Derek has a history of being flirtatious.
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  Speaker 1: And lying to you.
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  Speaker 2: And for me, as somebody that has common sense, it
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  Speaker 2: appears that those are contributing to you wanting to keep
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  Speaker 2: tabs on him because you're not the first woman to
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  Speaker 2: do it, and I don't think you should be embarrassed
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  Speaker 2: about anything.
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: You're not the first and you want to be the last.
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: I even admitted Monique, as secure as I am in
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: other areas, I also used to do those things, so
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: there's nothing wrong with it. But my question for you
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: is when you were doing that, were you hoping that
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: you would not catch him cheating? And that was the
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: intention of making sure you also kept taps on him.
• 16:44
  Speaker 5: Honestly, I did want to keep tags on him, and
• 16:47
  Speaker 5: also because I was looking to uproot my life to
• 16:50
  Speaker 5: move to Cleveland, so I just wanted to make sure
• 16:53
  Speaker 5: I wasn't like wasting my time. I wanted to make sure,
• 16:57
  Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, like I'm the only woman
• 16:59
  Speaker 5: that he's dealing with, and that was it.
• 17:01
  Speaker 4: She wanted all to herself, which I want her all
• 17:04
  Speaker 4: to myself, so I don't blame her.
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: Well, at one point you did not want her all
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: to yourself. You want to tend other women to be
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: with you, because what we saw on the show, Derek
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: is you cheated on Monique with several women. What made
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: you leave prison. You're on parole. You're trying to do right.
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: This woman, they committed to you. She put her own
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: life on hold to make sure that you had.
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: Something to come home to.
• 17:32
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: This woman made sure financially, at least in the beginning,
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: that you had all of your needs met right. So
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: for you to disrespect her in that magnitude, what was
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: going through your mind?
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: We was having like ups and downs, and I'll use
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: that as an excuse, you know, two step off, which
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: was wrong. She told me that was wrong. Even if
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: we had like an argument of disagreement, I shouldn't used
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: that as excuse and be like, you know, I can
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: go entertained son, because I was like, I was like
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: basically giving that the field of like because we have
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: an argument, we have a falling out, and we just
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: basically I was mad at each other. I use that
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: like I can go, I can go play, and she
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: telling me, all that ain't how you do it, ain't
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: how you go about doing that.
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: We can we can handle this.
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: Before it gets to that point where it could be over,
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: and it just I really didn't understand that part.
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: That's why we're still growing.
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: I'm still growing that in that aspect because before I
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: don't have any baby mothers.
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: I've never really been a serious adult relationship.
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: Where commitment means even if we have like a bad moment,
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: we still got to be faithful.
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: I didn't know that. I'm just honest enough to say
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: I didn't know that part.
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: How many women. Have you slept with a Monique?
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: It's been it's been more than one.
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: Is it more than five?
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: It's been yeah, somewhere around there.
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: Is it more than ten?
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: No?
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: Still bad though, And Monique, how did you find out
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: he was cheating on you with more than five women?
• 19:02
  Speaker 5: Well, the whole ten women thing last night was the
• 19:06
  Speaker 5: first time hearing that, So I always knew he cheated.
• 19:09
  Speaker 6: I just didn't know how many.
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: When you found that out, How did that make you feel?
• 19:15
  Speaker 6: I was hurt.
• 19:16
  Speaker 5: I was embarrassed too, because I felt like it's one
• 19:19
  Speaker 5: thing for us to go through things like in private,
• 19:22
  Speaker 5: but for him to admit that on TV, like it
• 19:26
  Speaker 5: was kind of hurtful, you know, even though like that
• 19:28
  Speaker 5: show it was taped like months ago, Like even though
• 19:30
  Speaker 5: we we we're growing, we're learning to get over things
• 19:35
  Speaker 5: and forgive.
• 19:36
  Speaker 6: I don't know, it just kind of like opened up
• 19:38
  Speaker 6: the one again kind of cause it was just like, Wow, at.
• 19:42
  Speaker 5: Least ten, I already knew you cheated, but I didn't
• 19:45
  Speaker 5: know you know what I'm saying to that magnitude, So
• 19:47
  Speaker 5: it was definitely hurtful.
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: Sure, this was just.
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: A taste of my interview with Monick and Derek but
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: listen here rain Drops.
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: Head over to my YouTube Channe I Know at YouTube.
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: Dot com slash at b Carlos King underscore to hear
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: more of my full interview with Bonique and Derek.
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: After the break, we'll get to my commentary on whether.
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: The Gorgas should lead the Real Housewives of New Jersey.
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: We'll be right back after this quick break.
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: This is reality with the King and I'm Carlos King.
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: Now let's get into the Gorgas of it all. I
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: have a confession to make and I'm just being honest
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: and listen, sometimes my honesty may offend people who I love.
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: It is never my intention, so it's just me saying
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: my opinion. I have a podcast and look unlike other
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: podcasts who have hosts that are friends with reality stars.
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: I'm always gonna be honest. And if you're mad in
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: my honesty, then you'll be mad for the day, because child,
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: you'll get over it tomorrow.
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: The reason why I haven't recapped the season is because
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: I feel like it's the same old, same old. Real
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: Housewives of New Jersey needs a refresh. I love the cast.
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: I've said that before. I think this cast is one
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: of the best. Last season of the Real Housewives of
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: New Jersey was an excellent season, an excellent reunion.
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: I love everybody on the show.
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: What I've been watching so far is just not grabbing
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: me because I feel like, even with two new ladies,
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: and I think Danielle and is it Rachel. Yeah, I
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: think they're great additions.
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: I do.
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: They could be, you know, the future of the franchise.
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: But the unfortunate part is there's too much inventory on
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: the old beef obviously, Teresa versus Melissa, and Jennifer.
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: Aiden versus Margaret Josephs. We've seen it.
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: We've seen it for so many seasons that I think
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: this season.
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: I'm tired of it.
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: I'm not as invested as I was before in it.
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: I think it's time for the Gorgas.
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: To go and hear me out. I've said this once,
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: I'll say it again. I am not in all caps,
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: n O T. I am not a Melissa Gorga hater.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: I'm not.
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: I've said it before again. I think Melissa is beautiful.
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: I thought she was great for the show at one point.
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: I've even used to tell Teresa my girl, like, yeah,
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: I know, y'all get along.
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: But Teresa.
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: That's a producer. She's great for the show. She's interesting,
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: and I like, I like what she brings to the show.
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: Like I was always honest with Teresa, which is why
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: listen up some of you housewives and reality stars. Teresa
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: and Chary are good examples, and Kenya are good examples
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: of when I state my opinion, they don't get mad.
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: Teresa was like, I disagree with you, but whatever, Carlos,
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: Let's go have dinner like that. And that's why I
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: love being Teresa Judais. She she doesn't like people to
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: kiss her ass, despite what you guys may think.
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: She doesn't like that.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: Teresa thrives on someone who's honest with her and because
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: she knows that I'm somebody who's truly her friend, I
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: will tell Teresa when she's right or wrong.
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: I told Teresa I think Melissa's great for the show. Baby,
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: I just do. But Child, that was years ago, and.
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: Based on what's been happening on the show this season,
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: I am sick and tired of this Teresa versus Joe
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: and Melissa Child, we have exhausted at bar readsing Go
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: aspect of that relationship and the moment you thought like Okay,
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: they'll get along to get along, you know what I'm saying, Like,
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: at some point you have to just say, okay, fine,
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: let's move on from it. And I thought I saw
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: a point, maybe a couple of seasons ago, where I thought, Okay,
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: Teresa Melissa bury the hatchet and they're going to like
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: get along. Boy was I wrong. And what I have
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: realized is that and look, this is my opinion. I
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: think Joe and Melissa know that without Teresa, they just
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: don't have a storyline. I never once believed for a
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: second that Melissa wanted to have another baby. Melissa gives
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: me no vacation that she wants to risk her body
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: altering again for a baby. That's my opinion. I don't
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: see Melissa being that person. Melissa thinks she's Jennifer Lopez,
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: and I didn't buy that storyline. I thought it was
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: weak and lazy, like, oh my gosh, not the stereotypical
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: I want to have a baby and then you never
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: have one. Okay, I'm over that. And then one of
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: Melissa's storylines was Okay, well I'm looking for my father,
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: which could have been very interesting, and I really enjoyed
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: watching that dynamic with her sisters.
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: And her mom.
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: But outside of those two things, and listen, rain Drops,
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: tell me if I'm wrong. Melissa ain't got much going
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: on child unless she gets into it with Teresa. And
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: I know what you guys are thinking. Okay, Carlos, you
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: are team Teresa. Look, Teresa's a friend, y'all. Listen to
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: my podcast. I love Jazebe Bryant. I tell you Zebe
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: Bryant when I think she's wrong. So no, that has
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: nothing to do with it. It has everything to do
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: with I am a viewer watching the show and I'm
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: sick and tired and exhausted of this Teresa versus Melissa.
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: And because Melissa and Joe don't have much going on,
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: that's the reason why I think it's time for them
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: to exist stage left. This show is not going to
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: survive with Joe Melissa on another season.
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: It's just not. It's not they listen, I listen.
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: I will compliment Joe and Melissa for bringing some very
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: interesting family storylines to the show. Joe and Melissa brought
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: another breath of fresh air to the show when they
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: first gone on. I think Joe Gorga is a great
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: reality star. Well, I thought that until I Child with
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: this episode three of this season, when Joe was facing
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: off with Louis at a restaurant with all the guys
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: and Joe Gorga gave you a good old al Pacino performance.
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: He was like at the head of the table, like
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: he's the Beyonce of the group, and he was looking
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: across the table at Louis, and I felt that Joe
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: was just trying Joe again, You're a great reality star,
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: but baby, you are a bad actor. That was something
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: the worst acting I've seen since Batwoman.
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: It was not good. And I love Halle Berry and
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: that's no shake to Halle Berry.
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: She won a Razzie Award for that performance, Child and
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: accepted it with her Oscar work.
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: Halle.
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: I think that was the day I was like, I
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: can't watch this shit no more, like to witness Joe
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: Gorga give an al Pacino stop performance where.
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: He's I didn't get it.
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: And you could tell Lloyd was like, what are you doing?
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: And I even think Lloyd kept asking him like, bro,
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: what are you doing. Even Frank Catana, who you know
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: is a show pony, he was even like, Joe, you're
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: doing the most.
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: I don't know if Mark.
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: Wahlberg is waiting to hand you a script or you
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: know again, it's Tyler Perry behind the scenes, give me.
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: You a wig to come on.
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: Joe Gorga gave a performance of a performance of a performance.
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: And I was exhausted.
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: I think Melissa and Joe understand that without Teresa drama,
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: they just are expendable, which is why they got on
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: the show in the first place. Again, my opinion, allegedly,
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: one of the things that we talked about this podcast
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: is how Melissa got on the show. Now, look, I'm
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: not going to do another deep dive into that. Listen
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: to my podcast episode with Teresa Judais. I even told
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: Bargaart Joseph the story, and then listen to me and
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: Jacqueline LaRita talk about it. My story has never changed,
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: neither has anybody else's.
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: Melissa.
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: Again, this is no shade towards you because I don't
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: know you personally, and once again, I think.
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: You are a beautiful girl.
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: The issue that I think we're all are having is
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: the fact that I just don't think you're telling the truth.
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: And I think if you did, it would be fine.
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: The truth sell set you free.
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: Baby.
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: I think if you said look, did I want to
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: get on the show.
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: Yes? Did I Facebook friend Carlos King? Yes?
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: Did I talk to the like, I think it's okay
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: to say it. I think if you said it, people
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: will be like, okay, because at this point you've been
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: off for ten years, so congratulations. But I think you
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: being upset about not acknowledging that, Melissa, you did get
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: on the show behind Teresa's back, allegedly whether or not
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: you told her you were interviewing like Melissa my story,
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: Teresa's story, Danielle Stoves story, Jacquelin Larita's story.
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: No one's story has changed, Melissa.
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: I think it's okay to just admit it, and I
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: think you will win so many people over.
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: If you did.
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: I think a lot of people are having trouble with
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: you because you just won't admit it. And then my
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: friends Tamra and Teddy on their podcast, you know, they
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: did a video recently and said when they had Jacqueline
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: Loarreta on, Melissa text Tamra and said, I'm mad and
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: that's not true and Jacqueline was lying. Listen, Jaquelin LaRita
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: and I almost stand ten toes down on this one.
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: And please quote me.
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: Jacqueline Loarita is a lot of things. She is not
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: a liar. She doesn't lie. She doesn't Jack would get
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: in trouble with her family members because she refused to
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: lie just because we're family.
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: You got on the show.
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: It's like, Melissa, it's cool, like it's fine, No one cares.
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: I think maybe some of the tree huggers will care,
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: but they don't like you anyway, so just don't. You
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: would never win off the tree huggers. They don't like you.
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: And guess what, that's fine, It's okay. What's not okay
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: is the way this season is shaping out to be.
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: I've lost interest.
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: I'm not invested in the New Girls because I feel
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: like I'm so bombarded by the same old story in
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: the same old conflict.
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: And I really do believe.
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: If you remove Melissa and Joe from the equation, the
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: show won't have a chance of succeeding. Because look, I've
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: said this once and I said it again, and I'm
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: somebody who loves, loves loves, and they love me too.
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: I love Jacqueline, Dina, Caroline, Danielle. Danielle was on my
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: podcast too. I love all those girls, and I think
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: all of them will even say to you, like, look,
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: at this point, it's Teresa's show. Teresa gives so much
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: to the show, so much to it. Teresa, she said
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: to herself, she had a baby on the show. She
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: got divorced on the show. She is getting married remarried
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: on the show. She buried her parents on the show,
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: like she had to suffer through going to jail on
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: this show and then coming home. Teresa has given every
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: single piece of her life to that show. That's why
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: it's her show. And that doesn't dismiss Margaret and Jennifer
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: and Dolores. It truly doesn't. It does not. They're all great,
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: and I love all of those girls. Girls too. I
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: even think they'll say, like, look, it's fine. Teresa is
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: the marquee. When you think of New Jersey Housewives, you
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: think of Teresa. She flipped the table, and guess what,
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: that's fine. It's fine, it's fine. What isn't fine is
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: Melissa and Joe continuously not having anything else going on
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: but starting this beef with Teresa. And I'm not saying
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: that Teresa is always innocent, but I also think at
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: some point, guys, you gotta move on from it and say,
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: what else do we have. Teresa has eight years a
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: more story to tell. The Gorga's got eight minutes left
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: a story to tell, and that is no shade.
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: Baby, It's no shade.
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: In order for the Real Housewives of New Jersey to continue,
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: the Gorgas must leave their.
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: Time is up.
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: Teresa already says she's never talking to them again, and
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: that makes me even sad to repeat that, because I
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: have nine siblings and I know how much family means
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: to me. But I have to admit if I was
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: in Teresa's shoes, and if I saw my sibling use
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: the show to start drama, allegedly to get a buck,
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: I won't talk to them either. So if Teresa isn't
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: talking to you guys anymore, and I believe she's not,
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: I don't want to see Melissa having dinner with Margaret.
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: I'm bored. Margaret is great television. Margaret could have dinner
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: with the New Girls and gets a new drama going.
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: Jennifer Aiden can get some drama started. Jennifer Aiden is
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: a fantastic reality star. I love Margaret and Jennifer Aiden,
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: and Dolores is great for the show too.
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: You have two new bees that to me could have been.
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: Like how Portia and Kenya gone all Season five of
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: Atlanta Housewives and they I'm gonna handily change.
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: The temperature of the show. That's what this show needs.
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: It needs a temperature change, and that temperature is on
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: zero degrees with the Gorgas.
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: It's time to go.
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: It's time to leave, and maybe, just maybe, you guys
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: could be able to do other things with a network.
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: You guys have a podcast, but I think you all
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: need to join Kathy.
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: And Rosie and get off the show. Thank you for
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: listening to Reality with the King.
• 35:39
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• 35:53
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  Speaker 2: and yet Baby, my YouTube channel where you could get
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  Speaker 2: all of.
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  Speaker 1: My visuals, baby, my expressions.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and don't forget tweet me your thoughts and hot
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  Speaker 2: takes about this episode using.
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  Speaker 1: The hashtag Reality with the King.
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  Speaker 2: Reality with the King is a production of Kingdom Rain Entertainment.
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  Speaker 2: It is produced by Sierra Spragley Rix An executive produced
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  Speaker 2: by me Carlos King, Kingdom, Rain Entertainment, Baby