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Rotating Headaches I Ep 96 · Draft Offsides Podcast

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Can I share something real quick about Nicole Jackson?
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He's asking permission. He's got that twinkle in his
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eye. Keith, I'm a little.
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Bit now that's why I'm like, it's going to be something where
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like I like you can refute it, but it's going to take me 10
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minutes to do it. Hello and welcome to episode 96
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of Draft Offsides with Tico Enzo.
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My name is Keith and what we got today, guys, what's going on?
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What's on your minds? Kudos is on the horizon.
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I'm in two minds about it because I don't like the fucker.
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And this to me, I'm really having a hard time coming to
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terms with you not liking Kudus. Like what is that about?
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It seems like the IT seems like the type of player that you'd be
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excited about. That's what he what how he acted
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at Tottenham. Well, you got 1 red you.
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Got one but he was acting like a Dick somewhere.
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That might happen but OK. But if Cunha would have came.
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Cunha has also gotten multiple Reds actually like a Dick.
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You would have been. You would have been that.
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Wasn't again. It wasn't against Tottenham.
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What? What did he do?
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I can't remember, but he got red carded and that's when he went
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that that was after I traded him to, to to start going.
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He also did. It's some personal.
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It's there's some it's personal and he didn't replay that wolf
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next last season. Let's be honest, didn't replay
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that wolf. He didn't play well last season,
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but I think we all think that he's a good player, right?
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Like. 50 million. No, that's just the going rate
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these days. And and the annoying.
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Thing is, has gone up, you know I.
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Know it's fucking ridiculous, but the annoying thing is this.
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This happens every season. My Tottenham gets like rumors
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for this player, this play and then also they go to somewhere
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else and it just goes down the pecking order and we always seem
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to get our four for fifth or sixth choice.
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And then and then you end up getting like a Brandon Johnson
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regen. Exactly.
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The audacity of this person getting upset because like his
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first, second and third fourth choice don't want to join like
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the 16th or 17th place team in the EPL.
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Yes, that's not the why you're living in the past, but now in
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the Champions League is probably a brand new season.
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Or brand new. It's not the past, that's
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literally the last season. Oh, so he kicked the Fender
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while he was down and then he slapped him in the face?
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Nice, nice, yeah. That's And then Richard Lesson
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came in and took a dive. Yeah.
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That sounds, yeah, yeah. But they won that game 41, so it
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was a frustration foul. Yeah, true, Yeah.
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Before we go any further, just really touching on the the
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passing of Diego Jota. Super sad, really shocking.
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I mean, I, I was trying to think of the last time a player like
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like of that caliber and that level passed.
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And it's really hard to think think about.
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And it's also just really hard to just come to terms with.
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And we have a lot of Liverpool fan friends and it's been a
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tough, tough week for soccer. Soccer people around the world,
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huh? Yeah, the community came all
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together. Obviously there's still players
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playing in the competitions, but man, that that one was like one
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of those things where you wake up considering, you know, has
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three kids, wife, the parents, every day you're like, it's one
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of those things it I don't know if you guys saw this year during
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the NHL All Star game, there was two brothers who were playing
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hockey. Same thing happened, like there
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was an accident but passed away. So stuff like that, when it
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happens, I feel like it brings not just obviously the sports
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world, but just everyone together and it's just tragic.
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Yeah, really, really sad. Very unexpected.
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The only the only other one I could think about this was the
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player that was meant to go to a Premier League team and die in a
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plane crash that. Was, oh, it was a helicopter.
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Yeah, that was also really tragic.
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That was tragic too. But you know, it's always, it's
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never, it's never expected. Yeah, I mean, this is life is so
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fragile, huh? Yeah, That's really good.
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Yeah. Love you guys.
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Love you guys. Yeah, OK, trying to keep our
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keep keep things moving matter Weki to Arsenal.
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This this is just starting to pick up steam and.
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I think it's a good move for Arsenal part to be honest.
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Well, he plays pretty good off the lap, so it's like the idea
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of him providing competition for Martinelli and being back up for
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Osaka seems like a pretty versatile position, a good
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player for them, you know, for what they need.
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What confuses me is that Rodrigo is still in the mix also.
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So would you start Matawecki over Rodrigo?
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I don't think there's any world in which they'd get both of them
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and a striker, you know. This move doesn't make sense to
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me to be honest, both for Maduicki and Arsenal.
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I mean, I guess for Arsenal doesn't make sense.
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You're getting back up there, but why would Maduicki want to
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go there? Seems like similar situation
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where it's going to be there are players at the same position so
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if you want playing time that's not the team you want to go to.
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I think he probably backs himself to beat Martinelli in a
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comp. There's also Tricia, a scientist
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Martinelli. Yeah.
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But Tricia is a bench player for Arsenal.
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I think he's a good player, but he's coming off the bench.
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Yeah, I think, I think that would be the idea that Matt,
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Matt Maduweke backs himself to beat Martinelli on the left and
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also get some game time on the right.
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But yeah, do you guys get that? And I also, but I also think
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it's not that much different from him being at Chelsea.
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If anything, it's a less crowded backfield than, you know, at
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Chelsea. So the one thing that I just
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think would be so funny is if we sell matter weke, if Chelsea
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sells matter weke to Arsenal to help fund a purchase of Rodrigo,
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you know what I mean? That would be like the ultimate,
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like, ha ha that. Would be and that would be
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hilarious. But, but I think the issue with
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Rodrigo and I think the reason why no clubs are signing him is
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just I, I obviously like transfer fuse one thing, but I
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think the other part is the, I think his wages are just too
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much. Like I, I think he's asking
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straight too much money. Like I don't, I don't have any
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real backing for that. Like I haven't read that
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anywhere. But I just got this feeling like
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like the like the Premier League is really working so hard on
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like these wage structures, like Chelsea's team is they're all
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not paid a lot and it's very incentive driven the contracts.
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And I think that like a Rodrigo is going to ask for so much
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money. That's going to be impossible to
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do that. Like 400 bags.
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Well, even in the threes out of there's not a lot of players at
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Chelsea that are out of any that are getting north of three.
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That's surprising. Yeah.
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That's surprising. But yeah, I don't, I don't know,
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but Matawaki to Arsenal I think would be a good fit for me at
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like he'll go down the left, he'll be more attacking.
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He's, you know, like you said before Keith, he does get a lot
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of shots on goal and creates opportunities.
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So something they need, yeah, they want, they want more goals
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and they're not going to get a striker so.
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I think they, I think the Blue Crest thing is starting to move
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a little quicker is what I'm what I'm reading from Arsenal.
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So which would be interesting. And that was we had that, we had
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that convo on our pod last week with Joe about Gorkhres and
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where he goes and drops. And I think that's a pretty good
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like mid, mid second. It seems like where he goes and
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pretty, pretty juicy proposition at that point I think.
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Yeah. The other one, the Arsenal
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that's heating up is an essay rumor, which again, that one to
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me makes less sense. Like like, I guess it's just the
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versatility. But I think if if as a goes to
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Arsenal does not downgrade, like every player like that
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downgrades already guarded me that downgrade Martinelli to me
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like all these guys like not so much because I think that like
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he's going to automatic take every spot, but just that it's
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just there's going to suddenly be a rotation thing going on
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there. It it just doesn't make sense
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like as a if, especially with Nani going there right now, like
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that's one less spot that he can try to take.
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Like he is a #10 so you'd think he would be fine with Odegaard,
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but Odegaard's a staple, isn't he?
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Isn't he like a team captain? Do they take that out?
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So it just doesn't make any sense for me for Eze to go to
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Arsenal like he'll he, he would do well if there was a spot
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open, but from the Luxevin, Nani's already going and he's
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already on his way. I, I think it's, I mean, I can't
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imagine. Again, it's one of the
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situations I can't imagine. They signed both Nani and Eze.
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You think you think Eze is just doing this to try to get a bad
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contract at Palace? That could be like it seems to
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be like the running trend right now in the league right now.
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Everyone's trying to do it that. 'D be funny, that'd be funny.
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Simenyo re signed with Bournemouth so those, those kind
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of rumors are gone. Sorry Enzo.
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I know he was rumoured the other time.
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Would you have been excited about that?
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I. Would have loved to have had
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him, I told him. Especially with all the the
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rumours about Sun not starring and maybe going to thin a bachi
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or it would make more sense. I would.
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I would still, even if you've got kudos who plays on the
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right, I'd like to get someone that plays on the left unless
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you're going to play freaking matters off that left hand side,
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which he's done before but isn't his true position.
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So but Semenya going to Bournemouth, that's that's great
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for Bournemouth and he had a great season last season and he
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could do similar things again this season.
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So. Yeah, I think, I think Semenya,
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that's that signing specific that solidifies him as like an
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early second round pick. Yeah.
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And then the last one, Kyle Walker to Burnley.
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I mean, there's not much to say. Karl Walker was barely a fantasy
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asset when he played for City. I think the only kind of funny
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thing. Did you watch the announcement
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video? No, there's.
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Another, it was like Lionel Richie.
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It's it was it was odd. And there's like a sculpture.
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Yeah, it's exactly that. It's like cuts from that music
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video. Then all of a sudden, like Karl
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Walker has like a sculpture that he's holding of Lionel Richie.
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He's like, I'm here. It's very weird.
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God, very odd. The the reason I added Walker in
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there was because, you know, barely being a lower team means
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that hopefully it looks like some of the pieces they got,
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they also got Edwards, which we'll speak about later.
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They've got some attacking pieces.
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Even with Walker being the Fender, he's he, he can get up
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and down that wing and maybe like free them up from getting
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like because I'm pretty sure. Are they still playing out from
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the back? I'm assuming even though
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company's gone. I I've.
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I don't know, I think it's a different structure for sure.
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I. Don't know?
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Well then, then it should work out for them.
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We'll see. I think I also think it's like
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so hard to know because like the the teams that have tried last
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few years, the teams that have tried to play the same where
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they played in the Championship in the Premier League have
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gotten obsolete, crushed. So you're hoping that some of
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these teams learn that they need to adjust and do like the Thomas
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Frank where they like very much adjust how they played from the
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Championship to the Premier League and slowly ease their way
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into like a new style of play. That would be.
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That'd be the help, you know. Yeah, I think, I think really
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enough. Walker will have more value on
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Burly than he did with the city. I think so.
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Just more defensive like plays, interactions, points.
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I, I, I just more stuff will go through him, Just, I don't know
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all that stuff. Actually, OK, I see it.
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I get it like that. And then I just pulled up
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Fabrizio's Twitter account just to see if there was any new
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updates. And the top thing he has pinned
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is usually when he pinned something, it's pretty much done
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deal guy, chorus, guy chorus or however, yeah, it's pretty much
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the closest to signing it. It's pretty much a done deal,
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personal terms of redone just between the teams and he's not
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going to training at Sporting Lisbon.
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The other thing is Kudos is not talking to any other club.
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He just wants to top them. So that's the other one that's
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on there. And Marcus Rashford, no surprise
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here. He he's pretty much not in the
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platform. And you, Marcus Rashford offers
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himself to Barcelona is like the funniest.
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It's like, yeah, I offered myself to do a lipa.
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That doesn't mean. It's funny because like that,
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that door is now open, though, if you if you think because Nico
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Williams just resigned with Athletico Bilbao again.
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Can we talk about that? No, no, I was just saying that
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the door is open for it. That's what I was saying.
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Can. We talk about Nico Williams.
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No, there's no point in doing that.
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He's not. Yeah, well, let's talk about it
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after. It's it is funny, though.
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It's a very it's like very funny.
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Anything else? I think there was, oh, the, the
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were we talking about like your craz and then, oh, Zuba Mande,
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that's official too. First off, yeah, yeah.
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Subbu Mande's official. Well, we're Are we gonna talk
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about party? No, let's, let's stay out of
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that one. I'm just saying he's gone.
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So now that has solidified that Zuma.
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Mande in more than one way. That's what he wanted to talk
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about. I don't think that's what you
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wanted to talk. About that's no, that's how I
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wanted to link it. I didn't want to talk about.
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How much of A monster he is? Yeah, OK.
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So definitely an Arsenal player. Were you guys, were you guys
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surprised that didn't wonder by Rashford?
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A little bit, a little bit, especially considering how much
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starting time he got over Ollie Watkins.
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What does that mean? But what does that mean for
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Ollie Watkins? You know, I feel like Ollie
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Watkins, like Emory, like kind of disrespects Watkins.
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I don't think he disrespects. So I think Emory plays who's in
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form and like Watkins was Dolphin and.
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I feel like every time Watkins, when it came on, he scored a
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goal. I feel like every time he was
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involved, he would score a goal, then he would just get benched
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again. I don't know if that's just like
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my my brain remembering it incorrectly, but it felt that
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way for a big chance this season.
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I feel like Aston Villa would have got them if they got they
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didn't get Champions League right there in Europa.
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That is true. So if they had got Champions
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League like it's essential is not on the books no more right
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no, so he's. You know, it's actually been
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weirdly quiet on the villa front this chance window, if you if
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you haven't noticed. Well, it's been quiet for a lot
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of teams, but to be honest, not that many teams did early
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business besides, you know, Chelsea obviously.
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Liverpool. Liverpool, Man United, Man C
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Those four teams went early, but everyone else has been pretty
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quiet when you look at the transfers made so far this
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season. It's a little unrelated from the
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EPL by Jesse John Duran who went from Villa to Saudi.
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He's now he's at Turquesse. Fender Baccha.
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Fender Bacchi. Yeah, I mean, another player
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like just getting out of Saudi, but it sounded like his setup
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was really weird, right? Weren't you telling me that he,
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like, had to live in a different country?
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Like very far away. Yeah, 'cause he's like.
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He lived with his girlfriend, and he wasn't allowed to live in
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the same house as that woman he was not married to.
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Yeah. Just odd.
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Yeah. Yeah, some odd stuff going on.
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Yeah, OK, get into another section right now.
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So this is something that Tico brought up that I thought was
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really good. We've we've talked about a lot
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in like passing and it's just about kind of like kind of
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honing in on a little bit. It's talking about like rotation
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risk. And then also that versus like
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starter uncertainty. And what what does the
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difference between the two are and how to how they kind of
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affect ranking players. I think like the poster boy for
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this is Man City and how do you like deal with a team where
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there's going to be so much rotation and you know, all these
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players when you look like points per start are some of the
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elite players, you know, but a lot of them aren't getting the
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amount of games that that would make them elite.
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You know, they aren't getting 30 plus games, they're getting
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closer to 20. And how do you kind of then rank
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them and how do you guys kind of come to terms with that?
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So for Man City, it's and before I go into like my thought
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process, I just I want to throw this out to you guys as well
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just so you guys could have some time to think about it.
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Watching the Club World Cup, the the roster that Pep used, do you
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guys think that's going to be the rotation or do you guys
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think that the plays plays a factor or not?
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So that's what I was looking at as well.
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But for City to be obviously the person who sits atop is how
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long? That's the one person you know
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who's going to start pretty much 90 plus percent of the game.
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So without a doubt how long if he's there, you take him and you
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don't have to worry about about him at all.
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The one to me that's going to be very interesting is Omar Marmos.
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He came out last year when Holland was injured.
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He was scoring goals. And then even when Holland was
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in the rotation, he was still playing, playing some minutes.
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But I just don't understand how they're going to fit in.
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And obviously the biggest thing is Doku, not Doku, I'm sorry,
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Floating, who last year had a terrible year after having an
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amazing year from two years ago. Those are the top three that are
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to me, I think they have the highest potential, the upside
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and the lowest, lowest risk of having being rotational players.
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The ones that are a nightmare to on from the front, midfield and
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forwards are Fordin and Savio. Yeah.
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And then what about Shirky then How does that fall into it?
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To be honest, that one, I'm so kind of I'm I'm not sure where
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he's going to play, what position he's going to play, how
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he's going to fit in. I probably wouldn't draft him
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unless it's like an amazing value pick.
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But I don't think he's going to be on the board until like the
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fourth, fifth round for for it to be value pick.
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But it's it's so difficult coming from the French league,
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which we know it's not that competitive, but he is a great
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player. He did have a good Club World
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Cup. He had I think he had a couple
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of goals. But again, I just don't
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understand where he's where he's going to fit.
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And there's also like the Nico Gonzalez's Rogers coming back in
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the midfield. So it's going to be a complete
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like shit show there. To me.
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It's I, I wouldn't, I wouldn't waste a high draft pick, draft
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value on, on those players with the with the all the
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uncertainty. Yeah, there's a lot of risk.
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You're right, there's a lot of risk.
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And I I agree with the Holland Mamoush.
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I think they honestly, I know you think about rotation it, but
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I think he'll find a way to get them started.
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But yeah, Savino, Doku, Foden, I'm not sure if they'll get
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rotated week in, week out with Champions League and all the
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cups. That's what you worry is that
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they get focused on the FA Cup with the League Cup.
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But like, I see a couple of other names on there, like I
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feel like Einori and Vardiol should be like playing 90% of
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the season this season with the defenders that they have, and
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they should be. You should be able to get some
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value out of them. The the scary thing about, well,
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the thing about Vardiol is when he started the year, he was
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playing left back. He was putting up amazing
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number, scoring goals, going to the top key passes, all of that
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stuff. But then because of injuries, he
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switched to center back. That's when I feel like his
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production towards the end of the year, the numbers were not
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there and he was more clean. She dependent.
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And I'm looking at the last few games from last year, 6 points,
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12, nine and a half, three and a half, 10 1/2 compared early on
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where it was mostly like 2017, 2114.
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And to me, Arnori is the player that's has the highest potential
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from the defense and he's someone that I'm going to.
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I think he's one of the players that's going to have the highest
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breakthrough. Yeah, I think I think with that
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Nori there and I also think with Nico O'Reilly, you know, he was
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the one that took the role. He's probably going to play that
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backup. I think Marty Y'all might play a
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few games left back for the for most part, it's going to be send
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it back and you're not going to get those same numbers.
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So I think I think Marty Y'all is a bit of a chop player to be
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honest with you this year. Like he would have been a good
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but we have a we have a bus like a bus section coming up.
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He actually would have been a really good one to put on there
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because he's definitely someone that I'm I'm kind of these
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dropped way down on boards compared to the point total that
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he scored last year, because I think we're just a little too
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wise to what's going on there. But but yeah, I kind of agree
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with you. I think that Holland is the the
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one that's like, you know, he's on, he's on a plane of his own,
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right. And then and then I mean, I
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think it's Foden for me. If I was ranking it, I think
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it's Foden for me. And then and then it then it
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gets really weird. And then I totally agree.
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And then like, because you see the potential with Marmoush, but
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are you really going to risk it? And then Doku Savino, I feel
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like they're starting to get priced in a little more.
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I think, you know, third, fourth round for the the when they
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play, you know, you start them, but then there's going to be
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games where you can't play them. And then I think there's other
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like Rinders is another very interesting proposition too.
18:57
And it's not like he's not going to be this.
18:59
He's not probably not going to be an elite point creator, but
19:01
he did score 10 plus goals in Syria last year.
19:04
He is like capable of doing that.
19:05
And he also kind of feels more that like Gundolin Silver Roll
19:10
is a little more of like an industrial midfielder that
19:13
there's also kind of has that a creative player.
19:14
So he might he actually I could see him getting more game time
19:17
than Savino and Judoku just not getting as high like play per
19:21
game scores. It's going to be about how Pep
19:24
plays too. You know he's going to change
19:26
his tactics and how they're going to play.
19:28
Are they going to try to keep the ball because they've been
19:30
last season they were calling the count attacks so much.
19:32
Are they going to try to solidify that midfield or are
19:34
they going to go gone home, just go Barcelona and try to score
19:38
more goals than everybody else? OK, I have I have an idea.
19:42
So we we're all working on our rankings right now and we're
19:44
we're going to have those up and we'll probably have those out
19:46
next for next week's episode. I'm going to search and find
19:50
where you guys have Doku, for example.
19:52
Is that is that you guys cool with me doing that?
19:54
Yeah, OK. I.
19:57
Don't know who ranked yet. Well, I think that she might.
20:00
Me, I have Jeremy Doku at 33. Enzo, you have Jeremy Doku at
20:04
47. Tico, you have Jeremy Doku at
20:10
36. That's interesting.
20:12
So, Enzo, you're actually the lowest of us on it.
20:15
I have Savio ranked my chart and Doku I have him 26th.
20:19
You that's, that's really interesting too.
20:20
So what? To me that's also really tricky
20:22
because I don't see that much difference between Savio.
20:24
No, I have, I have Savio 45. Yeah, you have both of them.
20:28
Enzo. Enzo, you just, you have no
20:29
desire, huh? No, just because it's the things
20:32
that we spoke about before and you're talking about right now,
20:35
Rotation. Am I going to take these these
20:38
players are going to be rotation players and I, you know, we're
20:40
not sure if they're going to start every game if or if
20:42
they're going to come off the bench or am I going to choose
20:44
players that will start and can get get me some points that can
20:48
win me games? Yeah, I, I think a lot of it's
20:50
team construction, right? Like if you have a lot of really
20:52
safe players, maybe it makes sense to like splash on like one
20:56
of these guys like a Sharky or something later where you're
20:58
like, oh, this guy could could have so much upside.
21:00
And if he doesn't play, at least I have, I have a really steady
21:03
baseline that I don't need them every week.
21:05
You know, then it makes more sense to to pick up a guy like
21:07
that, you know? Yeah.
21:09
So the the fan tracks official ranking for these players.
21:13
I'm just going to go read that up to Jeremy Doku.
21:15
So first it's Holland ranked seven.
21:19
Marmouche was ranked 19th, Phil Ford on ranked 34th, Rodri
21:23
ranked 37, which is, excuse me, kind of surprising.
21:26
And then Savio 41 and Doku at 50.
21:29
So even franchise has Savvy or Ankara than Doku.
21:32
That's the that's the fan tracks official ADP that you're looking
21:35
at. Official ADP Yeah, yeah.
21:39
Which party? All they also have.
21:41
Yeah. Yeah.
21:42
What do you guys have Fodin? Tricky 59.
21:44
I have Fodin a little earlier myself.
21:48
Me too. Maybe, maybe I'm a little choppy
21:50
mistake on Fodin. I think Fodin's somewhat.
21:52
I'm kind of optimistic on this year 23.
21:54
Let's go. I'm in the I got my 34.
21:56
I have him 23rd. What?
21:58
You're really low on City players, but.
22:02
I get it. It's just not worth it's not
22:05
worth the risk for I get it. But I'm thinking that if I can
22:11
get voted in the third, I think he can deliver a second round
22:14
value fairly easily personally. But I also, but there's also a
22:17
chance he just doesn't like, you know, he just has a year like
22:20
last year. And that's the war.
22:23
OK. And then I think that the so
22:25
City's like kind of its own thing, I think.
22:27
And then the other kind of type of team that's interesting is
22:30
like a Chelsea where it's not so much like I'm sure there will be
22:32
rotation, but I think the concern is starter uncertainty.
22:35
I think Chelsea's like this. I think Tottenham's like this
22:37
with some roles where it's not so much like I know all these
22:41
guys are play are going to play. They might only get 20 games.
22:43
It's like some of with some of these other teams, it's like who
22:46
is going to be the starter? So with Chelsea, we've talked
22:48
about it a lot with the wingers and you know, with Asavio
22:52
Esteval coming in with, you know, Matawecki still there,
22:55
with Pedro Neto, with Jon Pedro suddenly coming in and Liam
22:58
Dilap and Nicholas Jackson. And you know, it's like who who
23:04
are the ones that you can really rely on?
23:05
How are you guys handling those situations?
23:07
It's going to be the same way isn't it as as C because you
23:10
don't know who to * and it went all last season.
23:13
Like there's only a couple players on Chelsea where last
23:16
season when you knew they were going to start, like Nico
23:17
Jackson was one of them, but now Nico Jackson isn't one of them.
23:19
Like Cole Palmer's is going to start week in week out and he
23:22
should start week in week out. I think Enzo Fernandez is a
23:25
week, but the wingers, it's it's the side pieces that aren't
23:30
going to. I'd almost want to just pick a
23:34
Cucarella and help on that going down the wing.
23:39
But I guess my question is, are you do you devalue them in
23:42
rankings as much as you devalue like a Doku Savino?
23:46
Or do you was it just more of a is it a willing to take a risk
23:51
on a on a guy on a winger for like a Chelsea or a you know,
23:54
the Kulu Madison situation at Tottenham?
23:56
Are you willing to take a risk there?
23:58
Just use like try and do some research and really trying to
24:01
make it educate against who the starter is and like risk that or
24:04
would you rather because like, I guess it's just it's two sides
24:06
of the same thing where it's like one is you get 20 games,
24:11
but when they play they're great.
24:12
And the other one is you're hoping to get 30 games from like
24:15
a Kulasevski and just hope that he's the start over Madison on
24:18
Tottenham, for example, or hope that Pedro Netzo starts 30 plus
24:21
games for Chelsea because he's he started the end of the season
24:24
well and has been playing a lot in the Club World Cup.
24:28
I think you've got to take in all the factors and you can take
24:31
the risk, and you've said it before, high, high risk, high
24:33
reward, especially if they do get the start on the spot and
24:35
they're all good players. Let's be honest, they're not bad
24:38
players on this Chelsea team. It's just where or not they fit
24:41
into the ends of Moresca role. You probably know better than
24:44
us, Keith. But if not us?
24:45
Well, I guess for me, it's like I look at like 7 you and Tokyo
24:47
and like, even though, you know, you're not going to get all the
24:50
starts, you know that when they do come in, they usually end up
24:53
scoring. And I think there's more value
24:56
in that than like taking a risk on the third round for a guy
24:59
that might only play 10 times, you know what I mean?
25:03
As opposed to. But even though, even though
25:05
like that, the the upside is higher, right, like, you know,
25:08
oh, he's like he could be a 35 game player and he could, you
25:12
know, deliver like way better on his value.
25:15
I just I worry that the that there's just this chance that he
25:18
doesn't do that and he just becomes a bit part player in the
25:21
team, like in Estavio Esteval or something.
25:23
Just is it just too young and doesn't really get those starts
25:25
or Pedro Neto doesn't kind of continue his form throughout the
25:29
season. So to me it's almost the Doku
25:32
Savino's are almost like it's like you know what they're they
25:35
are. And you more so than like what's
25:37
going to happen like a Pedro Neto or a James Madison
25:40
Kulisevski with a new coach situation for Tottenham.
25:43
And they're stealing for Doku Savios much higher.
25:46
Those are places they started. You expect them to score 15 plus
25:49
points? Yeah, and an individual game
25:50
based individual game, yeah. To me with Chelsea is like I
25:56
want to. I was in the draft, Liam Dilap,
25:58
I thought it was going to overtake Nico Jackson.
26:00
You guys know how I dislike Nico Jackson as a as a striker, as a
26:03
player almost even as a human. But now with Jon Pedro coming in
26:10
there it's it drops. All three of them are drop lore
26:14
even though I feel like Pedro could probably play on the right
26:16
wing as well, especially with Madhuri.
26:18
On left wing, but yeah. Left, yeah, on the wings as
26:20
well. But to me from the one thing
26:23
with Chelsea is they're going to get Champions League again.
26:25
They're not going to play in that conference competition
26:27
where they played like their 6th winger and they still want, you
26:30
know. But Esteve I was someone who I
26:33
would I'd rather draft him than Liam Dillop.
26:38
You know what's funny? I still think Nico Jackson's
26:41
actually better than both of them.
26:44
You're delusional. I'm being serious.
26:46
I mean, there's things that he there's things the one thing
26:48
that's interesting to Chelsea and this this could also make it
26:51
more of a headache because I think they each do different
26:53
things really well. So Liam de Lab is this classic
26:56
like bruiser center forward. Nico Jackson's really good at
26:59
running it behind, really good at like transit balls in
27:02
transition. Jon Pedro is incredible as like
27:05
almost like this false 9 like 1 cup play striker and like they
27:09
all do very different things. Yeah, but what?
27:11
What one thing does Nico Jackson do more than they do?
27:15
Yeah, he's he's much better running in behind.
27:17
He's much better at holding the ball up in the midfield.
27:20
So he's very composed until he gets in front of the goal.
27:23
Yeah, exactly. He's the best at missing
27:25
opportunities. But he gets the opportunities.
27:27
His big chances missed wasn't that crazy compared to a lot of
27:30
other players. There's a little bit of an
27:32
Internet agenda against him. I think so too.
27:35
Like look very much led by Tico. I feel my.
27:37
Brother. Yeah, and you?
27:39
Well, that's OK. Anyway, Nico Jackson, I still
27:42
think he's bad. And Liam de Lapp and Pedro, at
27:46
this point in time, can they surpass him?
27:48
Maybe with form, but I still think Nico Jackson his worst
27:54
enemy is his is his self. Yeah, he's in such the doghouse
27:58
for Chelsea though, with Maresca, so we'll see.
28:00
Even if he's better, who knows who's gonna get the starts?
28:03
Yeah, the Labs scored twelve goals on Ipswich.
28:05
OK, doesn't mean that he's gonna score 12 goals on the Chelsea
28:08
team. Nico scored ten goals.
28:11
Nico was also injured for 1/3 of the season, if not more.
28:13
One played 30 games started 28. The lap played.
28:16
What was it, 3732? But it's completely different
28:20
teams mate, I get that you you play in a low block or you play
28:24
against an open backfield. Like seeing all that grass in
28:27
front of you is completely different playing against teams
28:30
that are playing five in the back.
28:31
Yeah. I mean, I, I, I think all this
28:32
discussion just lends itself to the bigger point that we're
28:34
trying to make here is that it's that how do you, how do you
28:38
really draft these guys accordingly?
28:40
And I think, I think my, my position is that you have to,
28:44
you have to like push him back a little bit.
28:47
Even if you're, even if you have really like Enzo, you have
28:50
clearly have strong conviction on Nico Jackson, but you still
28:52
have to acknowledge that he might not win that spot.
28:55
And like, if he did, you probably dropped him in the
28:58
second or third, but now he's probably not on your board until
29:00
what, the 4th? 5th?
29:02
6th I'm not sure I've got him. I'll look for you somewhere.
29:07
I'll look for you. I think I got the lap before
29:10
him, you know that. Yeah, you have you have Nico
29:13
Jackson 58, which I think makes sense and it's like and it's I
29:17
think, but that's and you have so you have Savignon Doku ahead
29:21
of him and that's because you know that they're going to get
29:23
playing time. So I think that's kind of the
29:24
point. I was kind of thinking and I
29:26
feel like even if like I think you guys are kind of there too,
29:29
just in your rankings, is that these guys, the the rotation
29:33
players, even though the they're they're not going to get you 30
29:38
games. Just knowing that they are going
29:39
to be coming in and out is more valuable than actually taking a
29:42
risk on a guy that's agreed not gonna might not get you
29:46
anything, you know? Agreed.
29:48
Can I share something real quick about Nicole Jackson or we want
29:50
to move on? I'm just asking permission.
29:55
I have to share my screen so you know.
29:57
Oh, I don't what? OK, what?
29:58
Yes, that's. Real quick.
29:59
Yeah, let me see, which one was it?
30:02
Look at this guy. He's got that twinkle in his
30:04
eye. Keith, I'm a little.
30:05
Bit now that's why I'm like, it's going to be something where
30:07
I like, I like, you can refuse. This is going to take me 10
30:09
minutes. The missed shots in open play
30:11
for last year. Look at all these ones.
30:14
Missed shots. Why is there a big red one on
30:17
the six shot? Box because big shot you're full
30:23
and these are just all the missed shots in general.
30:26
See another one OK, it's actually a pretty cool slot.
30:29
It's not even safe shots. These are not the they're not
30:31
blocked. These are shots that made it all
30:33
the way through and he just missed the goal.
30:36
OK. OK, you guys want to hear the
30:38
list of the big chances missed in the Premier League in 2425?
30:42
Yeah, go on. Ollie Watkins is number one with
30:45
27. Wow.
30:46
Mohammed Salah is number 2 with 24.
30:50
Really. Holland is #3 with 21.
30:52
Nicholas Jackson is #4 with 19. Alexander Isak is number 5 with
30:57
18. So as far as big chances, misco,
31:00
like he's in elite territory and he's but you know what I mean?
31:05
Like, but he's also like, but he's around names that are all
31:08
very highly rated and aren't perceived as missing big
31:11
chances. Because they're all getting in
31:13
opportunities. You got to get the opportunity
31:15
to score, go get there. You got to get in the right
31:18
space. You got to get in the in the
31:19
right. Area so we don't need to we
31:21
don't need to argue I I feel like we can move on from yeah so
31:25
the other team that the other team.
31:26
So we talked about City. We talked about like Chelsea.
31:29
We talked a little about about Tottenham, but I also want to we
31:32
talked about this last weekend a little bit that the cool stuff
31:34
scheme Madison to me is the really fascinating thing in that
31:38
team and who's going to play in that 10.
31:40
And I think there's also a chance that Thomas Frank changes
31:43
the system because he's done that when when Bradford was in
31:46
the championship to when Bradford came into the Premier
31:48
League to Brentford now to like so going to Tottenham, I don't
31:51
think there's this automatic thing that there's going to be
31:53
this damn scarred role that we're talking about.
31:55
I don't think it's as automatic that that that happens.
31:58
There's a very there's a very like high probability that they
32:01
play like a 352 or they do something else completely as
32:04
well. But I just think that it's going
32:07
to be interesting on that team. You know with with San like what
32:11
what you mentioned that he might you know the uncertainty are
32:13
there. It sounds like he might be
32:14
staying another year. I saw that though, yeah.
32:17
That could happen too, but I've heard he's not going to start,
32:20
which is is absurd if you're going to keep him in my opinion.
32:25
So I mean you're going to start Bart Simpson over him.
32:29
Don't know who did you start a lot for Charleston potentially
32:31
it. Would be no for Charleston.
32:32
Might be leaving too. I heard he's trying to leave
32:34
because he wants more game time. So you know what's, you know
32:37
what the one funny thing is, is that Richarlson's profile really
32:40
reminds me of Kevin Schauder a little bit in the way he plays
32:44
the Yeah, like they have a similar like, like crashing the
32:46
back post, like good in the air. Like there's a level of them
32:50
that I could see him playing, Richarlson playing off the left
32:52
and doing well for for Tottenham.
32:55
He played there last year or was it 2 years ago?
32:57
Now he plays on the left, he's playing.
32:59
On the left he plays off the left, yeah, I think he's
33:01
probably better off the left. I think people tried to turn him
33:03
into a striker and it didn't quite.
33:05
No, it didn't work. Yeah.
33:07
Or you spend that much money on him.
33:08
You know what I mean? Fuck me.
33:10
Yeah. But yeah, with the Kulu,
33:12
Madison, I just don't know because Kulu did so well in that
33:15
10 roll. But I think we're also thinking
33:18
back, and I thought about this after the pod last week, that in
33:21
that Big Ang team, like, Madison got benched a bunch and Kulu got
33:26
used more in there. But this isn't Big Ang's team
33:29
anymore. Now it's from his friend.
33:31
It's also last year. Such a weird year to like.
33:35
You just taught them as an example of how the players will
33:36
do this year because yeah, initially we thought Madison was
33:40
going to be the main person, but then it was Kulzefsky after he
33:42
was benched 2 years ago. But then last year when
33:45
Kulzefsky was the main guy, you saw how the team did in the
33:49
Premier League and even in the Europa he was injured.
33:52
Was he playing Kulzefsky in the Europa League runner?
33:54
He got hurt. He got hurt near the end, but he
33:57
was he was playing. Yeah.
33:59
So to me, it's I think the upside from Madison is, I mean,
34:03
I'm a huge Madison fan. I think the upside for him is so
34:06
much better. So to me, if I had to like draft
34:08
them, I don't think I would draft Klusowski in the second
34:11
round. I'd rather wait to take Madison
34:12
in the third round. Yeah, I think they're, I think,
34:16
yeah, I think we talked about that.
34:17
I think those are the same concerns.
34:19
I don't think that they're like they're baked in enough that the
34:21
chance that one of them might play the other, but there's also
34:24
a chance that they both play. So there is maybe maybe that is
34:26
maybe those are the the right spots for them.
34:29
OK. The next thing I want to talk
34:30
about is, well, I guess we is Brighton.
34:34
And I feel like they're kind of like city light in the sense
34:36
that that the rotation that happens on that team is pretty
34:39
brutal, but they just the points they generate are nowhere near
34:41
city level points. No.
34:44
So So what does that leave you? Because like Jon Pedro's gone
34:47
from there now. So.
34:48
But Gruda is all of a sudden interesting.
34:50
Yeah, that's the that's one of the ones I put up for later on.
34:53
He could take. Up and then you're always going
34:55
to take Matoma, right, But even then you don't you there's going
34:57
to be there's rotation even there for their ** player.
35:00
So it doesn't feel great. Who really starts week in week
35:03
out for the centre backs? That's it.
35:06
Maybe, maybe not even that at times.
35:08
Buffing honestly switches them out too.
35:12
But someone's got to take that Jao Pedro spot and who's going
35:16
to fill up the goals and who has the opportunity to.
35:18
And I think Gruber has Welbeck for half a season.
35:23
For the first half, first ten, first ten weeks, I think I
35:26
actually think that Brighton in the same way that city, I think
35:28
there's going to be some value to be found on Brighton.
35:30
It's just about who it is and how you find it.
35:32
And it's kind of like it's like winning a lot like what lottery
35:35
picks from there. But I think there's going to be
35:37
some value that's pushed down in drafts for everything that we're
35:40
talking about now where people don't really want to mess with
35:43
the rotation stuff. But if they get the right guy,
35:46
they're going to get some good, good value of of like grud all
35:49
of a sudden fills in for job, that job pager role and all of a
35:51
sudden you're getting him. You know, you get 25 games out
35:55
of him starting and where he's going in drops.
35:58
It's great. Or like, yeah, if if it's well
36:01
back or if it's maybe Inciso comes back to Brighton has a
36:03
really good season. Bona note.
36:05
There's like a bunch of different guys.
36:06
So many. Yeah, that could all of a sudden
36:08
really thrive. Solid March.
36:11
So yeah, I mean, if he suddenly rises from the dead, you know,
36:14
his knee, it's a bionic knee and he's back out there.
36:19
Stand away from that fucker. OK, then the Arsenal question, I
36:23
think for me it's just it's about it's not so much about the
36:25
team now because that team now is so paper thin, but it's about
36:28
like if pieces come in. So if as it comes in that
36:31
downgrades Odegard, Martinelli, if Cuckoo comes in, I'm sorry,
36:35
not if Matoueke comes in, that downgrades Martinelli for me.
36:38
If Yorker as comes in, or even Cesco, that really downgrades
36:43
Kai habits for me, right? So Kai habits even start to get
36:49
a striker. I don't think so, but that's we
36:52
can. We're not going.
36:53
To put them in the midfield role again.
36:55
I think that was a little bit of a failed.
36:56
I think they might if they were really desperate.
36:58
But like that's what Mccom Marino's there for.
37:00
That's what you know, they have all these players, they're all
37:02
of a sudden like they have Norgard now, they have Super
37:05
Mendy, they have they have more guys.
37:07
I think Cavetts starts on the shark week when they play
37:10
Brinley. That's it.
37:12
Yeah, situation a starter. Yeah, I agree 100%.
37:15
We can talk about that. He's he's actually in our bus
37:17
section. And then Zilla is the one that's
37:20
so interesting to me because they, there was such a headache
37:22
last year with you guys. Both had Ollie Watkins with
37:25
Duran and then all of a sudden it's Rashford and Ascencio and
37:30
you know, they're all rotating and you can't really start any
37:32
of them. But now without like they don't
37:34
have the personnel to concern me right now.
37:35
And I think part of that ends up to your point was just about how
37:38
they don't have Europe selfs and their budgets constricted.
37:41
But it'll be interesting to see like if they try and spot some
37:43
cash by the end of the year and what that looks like.
37:46
But that's a, that's a team to keep an eye on for that reason,
37:49
because it's, you know, Emery's prone to it if he has the
37:52
capabilities. And he's pretty, he's pretty
37:55
like stubborn when it comes to his lineup.
37:57
Like he puts out basically the same lineup every week.
38:01
But he did. But then he was switching it so
38:03
much, right? Because he brought in all those
38:05
players, like you said, now they're now they're back down to
38:09
the what they have. It's going to be Morgan Rogers,
38:12
Tillerman's, McGinn, Watkins. Like that's, that's who he's
38:17
going to have. Man, I can't imagine another
38:20
whole season. Him again.
38:21
He looked like he was like down on his feet by the end of I.
38:23
Think their trajectory is going downward?
38:25
Because they missed Champions League.
38:28
Because they missed Champions League and the they didn't bring
38:31
any players and I just don't think they're going to do that
38:33
well in the EPL. And it's just how, how many
38:37
years in or can you essentially bring back the same core?
38:40
Yeah, and who's going to be the goalkeeper?
38:41
That's another key, one perfectly honest because they
38:43
played from out the back. Your question doesn't sound like
38:47
Martinez is going to be back there, huh?
38:48
No, I don't think Martinez is going to be back there.
38:51
OK, Yeah. So those are those are kind of
38:52
just we just wanted to talk about some of those teams that
38:54
are have a lot of rotation and certainly hope that was helpful,
38:57
felt felt helpful to talk through it.
39:00
OK. Then we just now that we've been
39:03
making our rankings and we've, you know, we've seen a draft and
39:06
we're still looking at ADP on fan tracks is officially up.
39:10
We wanted to kind of go through some really early sleepers.
39:13
So these are people that as of right now we're kind of seeing
39:15
sleepers they might change on draft boards.
39:17
So we have two each and then we have two kind of early Buster
39:20
guys that we're concerned about. Tito, do you want to start with
39:22
your early sleepers? First one is a Manchester City
39:25
player, Matthews Nunez for the biggest thing for him is he got
39:30
switched over to defense this year.
39:32
He started all of Club World Cup games and Pep has been raving
39:35
about him. How important has been on the as
39:37
a right back last year on the games he just played?
39:41
Not I think he only started 19 games and he played 26.
39:45
From those games, the ones he qualified for clean sheets, he
39:49
would have gotten an extra 40 points which would have ranked
39:52
him as a 24th and total points among defenders only.
39:56
And this is again when he only started 19 games.
39:59
So you will, my assumption is he's going to start play more
40:02
games and obviously with the team they have in the clean
40:04
sheets, I think he'll has potential to be top 15 defender.
40:08
I like that one. I, I think it's all about that
40:10
positional shift, right? Yep.
40:13
It it, it has my mouth warrant just as a positional shift, but
40:17
it's also it's it's Manchester Sea.
40:20
Who else do they have on that right side?
40:23
Do they have anybody else that can play right back?
40:26
I don't think so. OK, that that then yeah, let.
40:29
Me see who their defender Well, they have the Yankees Rico Luis
40:34
who's. Playing.
40:37
You're gonna lose. You're gonna lose some time to
40:39
him for sure. Yeah, you're gonna lose some.
40:40
And then Oscar with two BS, he's in midfielder, he's not gonna
40:43
play. He's.
40:44
Not gonna play right back yeah, you just.
40:45
Want you just want to bring him up, OK?
40:47
Yeah, I did. And then they just have their
40:49
regular rotational players, Diaz, Ikanji, Nathanakis.
40:52
So Johnstones the only I think sometimes if they decide to go 3
40:56
in the back which maybe I just on.
40:59
That but the Lunas still plays you Phil in that three in the
41:01
back when he places a wing back. If he plays as a wing back,
41:05
which would be more beneficial because he'll be defender who
41:07
plays more attacking. So I think he has just a bunch
41:10
of upside for for this year. I think that's a really good
41:14
child, Chico. I think that's a really, really
41:15
good child. Well, we'll just wait until
41:18
someone else says it's all right.
41:20
Sees. It's a good point.
41:22
Who else do you have, Chico? This one is kind of a in a Cody
41:25
Gap Gapo. It's a little sad.
41:27
We talked about obviously Diego Giotto, who passed away and last
41:31
year Gapo split the starts with Diego Giotto, so he still had
41:34
ten goals and four assists. So you would think he's going to
41:37
get more playing time or opportunity and he's going to be
41:39
the only one who's in play striker.
41:41
Obviously it's a terrible reason that he's going to get more
41:43
opportunity, but he has someone who, in my opinion, he's
41:48
probably going to have a better year just because of the tragic
41:50
death of Giotta. Yeah.
41:53
I mean, it's it. Could it could be or, or they
41:57
could just play watts and solar and and Louis Diaz in the front
42:01
3 and that just because they have the depth now and that that
42:05
just solidifies Louis Diaz. I don't think Louis Diaz will
42:08
leave. Well, who's going to play as the
42:10
night? Who's going to get in the bus,
42:13
Louis? Diaz.
42:15
But his best positions are off the left, that's what he
42:17
prefers. And Jack could also play the
42:20
left as well. So I think he will.
42:21
He will just have more opportunity.
42:22
And I don't think he's the player who's right tied.
42:24
I don't think he's a player that people try to draft because when
42:27
you think about the Liverpool attack, I think he's like on the
42:29
bottom of the totem pole. So I think he just might have a
42:33
much better year this year. OK.
42:36
Yeah, I think, I think we were getting with drafts like I mean
42:38
for me what his eight, I haven't ranked at 49.
42:41
What's his ADP looks like right now?
42:43
He's ADP 68. Yeah.
42:45
I mean you're, so you're talking seventh round for a guy that
42:48
could potentially be like a third round value if he actually
42:50
gets the starts. I think that's solid.
42:53
That's good. Yeah.
42:56
OK. And what do you have?
42:58
Michael Gruda from Brian, with Pedro leaving, leaves big boots
43:02
to fill. They had moments last season
43:05
when we saw that as we're watching, they had only they
43:08
only started eight games, but they did play 21 games coming
43:12
off the bench. They got one goal and four
43:15
assists. I just feel like if he got more
43:17
more starts, if you really take that like that's a goal every
43:20
two games. I mean that's an assist every
43:22
two games and a goal and in eight unfortunate, but I think
43:26
he can get more in this Bryan team that's, you know, always
43:29
quite attacking, especially on the the counter.
43:32
I think that he could come up and I'm not sure where he's
43:34
going ADP wise, but I think he could be a nice piece that could
43:38
that could potentially take over Pedro's role in that Bryan team.
43:43
He's 133rd on the ADP fan tracks.
43:47
Yeah, I mean, I, I agree with everything you said.
43:48
I think we talked about the bright and rotation a little bit
43:51
and that's the only maybe downside on him.
43:53
But I think even at 1:33, so you're talking 14th round.
43:56
Yeah, that's a really good one. None of that.
44:00
Who else you got? I'm going to talk about Marcus
44:03
Edwards next. He just signed for Burnley.
44:07
He came from the Portuguese league.
44:08
He's the next Tottenham player also.
44:11
He's a four. He's class as a forward but
44:12
plays as a winger. He's very tight minded.
44:16
He loves to dribble down the wings, get balls into the box.
44:19
I feel like he has big potential ghost points even on this
44:23
Burnley team where they'll be playing a lot of counter attack
44:26
football. So he'll get some opportunities
44:27
and he'll play on that same side as Karl Walker, who could
44:31
potentially give him some nice passes down the wing.
44:33
I figure that he could, and I don't know.
44:35
I don't think he even gets draft drafted if he does very late.
44:40
I like that one. I feel like I definitely haven't
44:42
put in a lot. I haven't been putting a lot of
44:43
effort into the Championship players.
44:45
I think the last few years has really turned me off.
44:47
But it is important to look at them and I it's a really good
44:50
point. I also feel like like this.
44:52
Do you think this is finally the year where a Championship team
44:55
comes in and knocks out one of the Premier League guys?
44:59
Yes. You do, I don't.
45:01
Wolves. Wolves, Brantford.
45:03
I think there's a couple teams that have lost some key pieces
45:06
that my my own issues. Last year, without Cunha, that
45:09
team's getting relegated. Yeah, well, we said the same
45:12
thing about Bournemouth last year when they lost Solanke.
45:15
I I don't think I said that. You know what said that?
45:18
When I said that. But the ironic thing is the team
45:23
Salaki went to almost had relegated.
45:27
You piece of shit. But you know, the ironic thing
45:29
is that you also won a cup. A European one at that.
45:33
Wouldn't seem all right, all right, let's let's let's not get
45:35
this real, real, OK. Oh, yeah, I have two.
45:37
My first one is not, not to be fair.
45:39
From Brighton. 11.5 points per start, 8.2 ghost points per
45:43
start. 24% of his only 24% of his points came from Gold's
45:47
assistant clean sheets with ten starts.
45:51
Like that's a solid amount of stats.
45:53
He started the last six games and the season.
45:56
His ADP is one O 6, yet his numbers are like all his
46:00
numbers. If you're like blind testing him
46:01
without his name would be closer to like a guy go that should be
46:04
going in like the third fourth round.
46:06
So, you know, I think the only the negative is that
46:09
positionally he's a bit weird because he plays like right
46:12
back, but he gets so at the field he can play center mid.
46:14
But I kind of I'm like, even though he's not the same type of
46:17
player, just points wise, the way he does it kind of reminds
46:19
him like a Pascal go gross, like a regen for Brighton a little
46:22
bit so. Yeah, I think we we discussed
46:26
him before about being that new Pascal Gross and I think the I
46:30
picked him up the end last season and he helped me, you
46:33
know, come 6 but he he did put up points and.
46:38
He Oh, you lost a circle trick. But yeah, I think he's he's a
46:43
good one, especially going in the 10th, in the 11th round.
46:47
Yeah, next I have Beto from Everton.
46:50
Surprisingly good points were started.
46:52
He kind of felt like he was a little bit of a meme for his
46:54
like lack of goals, but then he really turned it on for chunks.
46:57
So 11.2 points per start, 7.2 ghost points per start, which is
47:02
really good for strikers. And then his his his jacks, like
47:06
his goals of sis clean sheets is only 35%, which is again very
47:09
low for a striker. So it's very good ghosting for
47:12
the striker position, which is usually pretty cool.
47:14
It's just dependent. And I also just I think the
47:16
biggest argument I have for him is just that I really love the
47:20
unit around him, the attacking unit with Alcraz and Die McNeil
47:23
all around him, like kind of supporting.
47:25
I think any striker needs a good attack force around them to
47:29
really thrive. Like any mediocre striker, you
47:31
know that isn't going to create all the opportunities
47:33
themselves. And he just seems like the type
47:34
of guy that is going to thrive in a, in a situation that's so
47:37
positive like. That so last year we were high
47:39
on Beto after he's got the start.
47:41
But have you seen the striker? They signed everything.
47:45
Yeah. Dear, dear.
47:46
No, Barry. You think there's some
47:49
competition? You think that the new striker
47:51
from? I think he came from the Spanish
47:53
league. Villarreal wouldn't get the
47:55
starts. Calvert Lewin, left.
47:58
Mm hmm. So I think it's Beto's position
48:00
and I think that this new guy, Barry's probably going to eased
48:02
in and I don't I would maybe like we'll see.
48:06
I think it's super valid, but I feel like it's Beto's position
48:08
to lose right now. He scored for Vila Real, he
48:14
scored eleven goals and I think they finished like top 6.
48:16
This guy's 6 foot 5. So.
48:19
But Beto's big too. I mean, I think they're very
48:21
similar profiles. Yeah, I think it's going to be
48:25
interesting to see. I just wanted to kind of we had
48:27
to talk about this new striker side.
48:28
Yeah, kind of get your thought process on that.
48:31
Yeah, I think that's super. I mean, if he takes a position,
48:35
maybe, maybe that's maybe one way.
48:36
If you get better, you got this guy too.
48:38
You handcuff him, you know, just to play it safe.
48:42
I think that's smart. OK, then move into the bus.
48:46
Who do you guys Tico? Who do you have for your your
48:49
bus section? First one, Maduicki, we talked
48:53
about before last year, I think he put up good production value
48:56
for Chelsea, especially when he was starting.
48:59
But to me, he's most likely going to be backup Tosaka and
49:02
then if he goes on the left left wing, there's competition
49:05
between Martinelli, Tresart. So I just don't think he's going
49:08
to have the value that he did, especially right, the
49:10
soundtracks had ranked. I just don't think he's a player
49:14
I would take a chance on, especially considering it's a
49:16
new team, new system, all of that stuff.
49:19
I don't think he's just going to have any offensive value.
49:21
I think if he starts he's he'll be start a spot starter.
49:24
Yeah, I think, I think we can. I think that he's one of those
49:27
guys where if, you know, if he's, if he guaranteed that he
49:30
was going to start games, you'd be super happy with his
49:32
production as like you were last year.
49:34
But it's just a matter of where, where he's going to get those
49:36
games in any of the situations that he's linked to right now.
49:39
Yeah, it doesn't look good perfectly on this for him.
49:42
And then the other guy I have is Chris Wood, last year, career
49:45
year, 20 goals to recess. I just don't think he's going to
49:47
be able to replicate that year. I don't think Forrest as a team,
49:50
they're going to be able to replicate the season they had
49:52
from last year. He will also be turning 34 years
49:56
old and last year, the way he ended the year, the last 11
49:59
games he only scored two goals and had one assist.
50:02
And for a player very goal dependent at that age on a team
50:04
that's overachieved last year, I would stay away from him.
50:08
I agree, I think there's a few things that else that could
50:10
happen around him that is going to affect him if Elanger leaves.
50:15
Does Callum Hubs or Deutsche fit the whole season?
50:18
Those are all things that help him out.
50:20
Is Morgan Goodwig going to start a season the way he did last
50:22
year? But I agree, I don't think he's
50:25
going to score 20 goals and get 3 assists again.
50:28
And this Forest team was a Unicorn last season, so.
50:31
You never brought in. I'm sorry.
50:33
They also brought in and that one of the strikers from I think
50:36
there's bots of Fogo Igor, Jesus, yes, you know and they
50:40
also have the other guy. I forget his name right now, but
50:42
there was a striker that they were really excited about that
50:44
they paid a bunch of money for a year, a year ago and you got
50:47
injured right away. So there's.
50:48
So yeah, I don't know. I'm just saying there's some,
50:50
there's some other people around there too.
50:52
So I I kind of agree with that. And so who do you have?
50:54
Because we're not doing Tiger's third one.
50:57
I laugh when I saw it. I deleted it all right.
51:01
I got Obi Wan and Wobi for Fulham over form, fantasy wise.
51:06
Nine goals, 6 assists, the majority of which came from
51:09
getting to mid season last season.
51:11
If you really look at how he ended last year, like he did
51:14
have some double digit games, but you can see he's dolphining.
51:17
He had like 3.5 and a six in there in the last few games.
51:21
I just think he he definitely overperformed.
51:23
It was great for me, great, great pick in the sixth round
51:25
last season, but I don't think that's going to happen again.
51:27
He's going pretty high. It looks like his ADP is going
51:30
to be high and I think he's just going to be really pissed off,
51:33
you know, pick him up. Yeah, I think it's all about ADP
51:35
for this one, right. I think, I think that's where
51:38
the concern is what like and let's let's see actually where
51:42
he's going ADP 18, so in the second round.
51:46
Yep. Just feels a little early.
51:48
But you've really got the only thing I I think I have him still
51:51
in the third round next in in my in my my mock only because of
51:54
what he did last season. And maybe that's the only only
51:59
only reason why. Yeah, I, I, I guess that makes
52:01
sense. I think, you know, I think he
52:03
also over performed his actually by a decent amount.
52:07
Like not not obviously like Chris Wood levels, but you know,
52:11
yeah, he was like almost a + 4 XG over plus 4XG over performer.
52:17
His goals were as nine and his XG was five.
52:21
Yeah. So that's a lot.
52:25
It's a lot man, I just don't think he can replicate in the
52:27
full on team. Yeah, I agree.
52:29
I think. Yeah, I think the team, the team
52:31
factor too. OK, who else do you have?
52:33
Brendan Johnson, Mr. Barr, Simpson, Tottenham's top goal
52:37
scorer last season, but with the lives of us, Syontel and maybe
52:41
Kudos who plays on that side and and tells who can't play on that
52:44
side. I think that he was benched
52:46
enough last season to the point where he wasn't deemed the star.
52:50
So even though he's got eleven goals and three assists and
52:53
he'll go on like the like, not too high, but he's still got
52:56
high enough. We'll piss you off where I don't
52:57
think he's going to even put in anything close to those numbers.
53:02
It's a different team, different, different manager.
53:04
I'm going to add some players and I think we've already looked
53:07
at his position with kudos, so that that's what's concerning.
53:11
I think that he very much was an ANG player in the way that
53:14
Andrew really liked him arriving late at the back post and the
53:17
speed at which he did stuff. And yeah, I I'm not saying he
53:21
can't find a way to dabble in Thomas Frank.
53:23
I think that the play style just, it doesn't suit him as
53:26
well as as it it did for Ang. So I agree.
53:29
All right. Is it my turn?
53:31
Yeah. First thing I have on here is
53:33
Jacob Murphy, A phenomenal season last year I'm just really
53:37
worried about. We've talked about this a few
53:38
Times Now, but new Newcastle is actively shopping for a right
53:41
winger, a Langa rumored to be going there.
53:44
That's really huge. I also just don't think that
53:46
we've seen enough of a body of work of his over a long period
53:49
of time for me to be excited about him, especially like where
53:54
he's kind of going like, you know, fourth round, early 5th.
53:58
To me, this feels a little scary for potentially a backup.
54:03
Yeah. And then my next one is Kai
54:05
Haberts. And this is the one I've just
54:06
been banging the drumline. I think we're all kind of an in
54:09
agreement though. Now I don't think anyone's
54:10
really arguing with me, but I was just so shocked to see him
54:14
in that in the job society mock go so early in the late 2nd
54:18
because I just don't see a world where Arsenal doesn't sign
54:20
somebody up top. And if any sort of signing
54:24
occurs, immediately drops like the fifth round for me.
54:28
Cuz I think, yeah, even if it is like a Cesco and they're they're
54:31
rotating, then I still don't like think that the value is
54:34
gonna be there in the 1st 334 rounds to have a player who's
54:38
like a rotation player in your squad.
54:41
And so I think like the only scenario in which he returns any
54:44
sort of second or third round value is if like they don't sign
54:48
a striker. And if they don't sign a
54:49
striker, I'm pretty sure Arsenal fans are gonna ride.
54:53
So I just don't see that world. No comments.
54:56
No, pretty much hit the the nail on the head.
54:59
We've already banged on about car haverts.
55:02
If for example just say they don't sign a striker, where
55:06
would you sign? Where would you draft car
55:08
habits? If they don't get jokers or a
55:09
Cesco, where would you draft car habits?
55:12
Third round early. Mid, early, mid, yeah.
55:16
And be happy. I'd be pretty happy, yeah.
55:19
I wouldn't be like, pissed about it.
55:20
Like, you know that that's a good signing.
55:21
Yeah. Yeah, no, I think that's super.
55:24
Yeah, for sure. Yeah, yeah.
55:25
And but if they do sign, what do you?
55:27
What do you have to say, Chico? You have something to say?
55:29
No. No, I have I, I'm not a fan of
55:32
hammers. I I would stay away from him.
55:34
Even if they don't sign anyone else.
55:38
I don't see a world where they don't sign up.
55:40
That's. How I feel too.
55:42
That's like. Having what?
55:42
What world is this that you guys don't see?
55:45
We've been living in this world for fucking two years that they
55:48
haven't signed a striker. So it's more like he's not a
55:53
striker. He wasn't supposed to be a
55:55
striker. They signed Gabriel Jesus.
55:58
How many years ago was that? Is he is he still on the squad?
56:02
Yes. Yes, so maybe he takes some time
56:04
from habit too. You coming?
56:07
Remember, he had that gruesome injury or injury.
56:09
Yeah, yeah. I mean, he's been.
56:12
He should be back though by this year.
56:14
I mean, probably this year. Yeah, it's his for year for
56:18
Arsenal. I remember his first year, he
56:20
was really good. Yeah, I mean, he was getting
56:22
drafted. I don't know if it was last
56:24
year, if it was two years ago, he was getting drafted as like a
56:25
second, third rounder. Well his first year he I have
56:29
his numbers up here at 11 goals, so the following year I think he
56:31
was getting drafted in the second round.
56:34
Yeah, All right. So those are those sections.
56:36
We just have some fun stuff for some.
56:37
Would you rather's thanks for ever put these in because I
56:39
definitely didn't. Would you rather the lap Jackson
56:43
or Pedro? Are we giving reasons or we just
56:48
want to power through it just. Just do it.
56:50
Just enter it quick and if it's if we and we can go from there.
56:54
Pedro the LAP waiver wire trash. Even though I think Nicole
56:59
Jackson's been out of the three, I'm going to go to lap because I
57:02
feel like he might get starred ahead of all of them.
57:06
Interesting. I'm actually gonna I'm going to
57:07
job Pedro just in the sense that he's more versatile.
57:11
So you can if he can win that starter role, great.
57:13
But then he can also play in the left wing.
57:14
He can also play in the 10. There's just a little more
57:17
versatile tilty there to hit for him to get game time.
57:19
Even though I think that there's gonna be there's gonna be games
57:21
where I think job Pedro plays with Jackson to allow, you know,
57:25
but I don't think there's gonna be a lot.
57:26
I mean, maybe they will, but I don't.
57:28
I don't think that's the case for the other two.
57:31
And also Jackson starting the year on the red.
57:33
Yes, that's it. OK.
57:36
Would you rather Cunya and Bueno?
57:38
Cunya easily. He just so much goes points, he
57:41
does so much for the team, he and I think.
57:45
What team did he do that for? Wolves and I think with Bruno
57:48
being there, it's going to take a lot of the pressure off of him
57:50
as well, so I think Cunya is going to have a really good
57:51
year. And I'm going to go.
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I'm going to go and boom ball just because I feel like boom
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ball. I think he can do a lot more on
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the Manchester United team because they they go do go down
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the wings quite a bit. Kunya's going to be stuck in
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that middle and I think Bruno's going to be just dominating the
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middle and won the ball at a time so.
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Well, he's not even on the United team.
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He will be, he will. He's going to be I, I'm going to
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go above too. I think I'm ranked one position
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higher than Kunya. I think it's just the stability.
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I think Emblem has offers more, I think, I mean, it's a little
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too like mercurial for me in the sense that like he might
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explode. He might, I don't know.
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I just there's a little more uncertainty there with like his
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attitude, personality and stuff. And I think I don't think
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there's that much daylight between them as far as ability.
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And so I think I just got to go on to, I think is less likely to
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explode or do something stupid or get get if I was a manager or
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something. Yeah, and one more.
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OK, next one. Gordon or Haverts Gordon?
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What is what is happening here? Well, think of it if if there's
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no striker, if they don't get a striker.
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There's no, there's no world that I'm taking haverts over,
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Gordon. OK, something so making it
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possible be objective. OK, Gordon.
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I didn't. Gordon too.
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I'd go Gordon also. Yeah, OK.
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This is a good one. This is like a positional
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difference 1 So Whista or McNeil, you're high.
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You're high on Whista. You guys noticed in the inkings?
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I'll go McNeil. I'll go McNeil also.
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Yeah, I think that's just the point.
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The points are just too good there.
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Yeah, the amount of points that McNeil generates, even if you
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are the Wistar fan, you know. Also, if it's a close one, go
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with midfielder. Well, I think in the past, yes,
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I think this new season, I'm not too, I'm not sure how much you
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watched the last episode, but it seems like there's a little bit
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of a shift towards forward being a little scarce right now.
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Well, it's not just that you get that.
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I know it's not a big deal, but you get one extra point for
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clean sheets. That you but you also get and
1:00:03
you can also, you can play five of them as opposed to being on
1:00:07
being able to play 3 forwards. But yeah, I think that I think
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forward is going to be it's going to be interesting.
1:00:11
There's a scary media, yeah. It's going to be fun.
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OK, these next three questions ends up you can do.
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I have no clue what they're even asking.
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OK, so which player has played the most seasons but also been
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substituted off in the Premier League?
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It's someone that's like in our realm of.
1:00:26
It's not like a random name. No, it was.
1:00:29
It was a start in like 1950. No, this is the Premier League.
1:00:33
So the Premier League's not only been around since 96, I figured
1:00:35
from 96 onwards. But like someone that was
1:00:38
someone that we like talk about occasionally.
1:00:40
Someone. Someone that you would know.
1:00:42
But what is it you want? Some you.
1:00:43
Want some? You want some hints?
1:00:45
Yeah. Are they still in the league?
1:00:46
No, they're just. Still in the league most seasons
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subbed off the most, Wayne Rooney.
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No right team though. He's Welsh.
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Oh, gigs. There you go.
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So he's played the most seasons, not necessarily the most
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appearances, but he's also been substituted off the most.
1:01:03
Also does it. Aren't his goal system is
1:01:05
actually really bad when he like they're really not like that
1:01:09
elite at all. No, but he's got a lot of hockey
1:01:11
assists. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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OK, all right. Who holds, who holds the record
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for most Premier League appearances?
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You you guys should all know this one.
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Is it a goalie? No, it's not, Goalie.
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Is it Alan Scherer? No.
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No, that was going to be my guess so.
1:01:30
Rio Some players started really young and played in the Premier
1:01:32
League their whole career. Is it Rio?
1:01:35
No. Is it a defender?
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He's a sentiment fielder. Frank Vampire No.
1:01:40
No, he's played. He's played for Villa.
1:01:43
He's James Villain, obviously. No, no, no, Gareth.
1:01:47
That was what I thought it was going to be.
1:01:48
Gareth Barry, 653 games. Can we click on check some of
1:01:55
these? I've got them on the Internet
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right here, OK? Yeah, you say you have it on the
1:02:01
Internet. Means nothing to us.
1:02:03
All right, what goalkeeper has the most clean sheets in Premier
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League history? Oh, no, no.
1:02:07
No. Most clean sheets in Premier
1:02:11
League history? It's going to be Vanderstar.
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No. Check.
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PH Check. PH Check 202.
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Yep, all right, we're done. Yeah, we're done.
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This has been episode 96 of Draft Offsides.
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My name is Keith, I'm with Tico Enzo and we will see you soon,
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very soon. The rankings are coming up.
1:02:31
We are almost done with ours. It's waiting on Tico.
1:02:34
Just went on Tico. No joking.
1:02:36
We're waiting on Sergei, actually.
1:02:38
No, we're waiting on Tico. Are we seeing?
1:02:39
His rankings? Let me see, let me.
1:02:41
Have you looked at his tab? Yeah, it's fucking scattered,
1:02:44
mate. It's fucking scattered bro.