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Burrito Wars · I Think Less of You Podcast

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SPEAKER_01: Anyway, sorry.
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SPEAKER_00: We're recording again.
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SPEAKER_00: You immediately took a phone call.
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SPEAKER_01: I didn't even take it.
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SPEAKER_01: She hung up on me, but my mother-in-law was calling and figured I should at least try.
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SPEAKER_00: Fair enough.
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SPEAKER_00: So, yeah, so you were in South Dakota, correct?
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SPEAKER_01: I was.
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SPEAKER_00: South Dakota.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, my family doesn't really have any weird like Minnesotan accent.
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SPEAKER_01: If anything, they're a little Minnesota.
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SPEAKER_01: If anything, they're a little just like Kansas twangy.
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SPEAKER_01: But yes, we were in South Dakota.
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SPEAKER_01: We were there for a memorial.
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SPEAKER_00: The Sturgis bike rally, correct?
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SPEAKER_00: You're a big biker.
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SPEAKER_00: So I assume you went for Sturgis.
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SPEAKER_01: It is happening right now or next week.
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SPEAKER_01: I'm not actually sure when it is, but it's like soon because there were bikers everywhere.
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SPEAKER_00: I think I,
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SPEAKER_00: like much of America,
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SPEAKER_00: was generally unaware of the Sturgis bike rally until everyone started claiming
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SPEAKER_00: that it was going to be a super sputter event that was going to kill everyone.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm not a biker.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm not a biker.
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SPEAKER_00: I've never been to South Dakota.
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SPEAKER_00: Why would I know about it?
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SPEAKER_01: Okay, I have been to South Dakota a lot because my dad was from South Dakota
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SPEAKER_01: and I have family there.
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SPEAKER_00: Of course your family knows him,
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SPEAKER_00: but of course you know about him because of family connections.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but I've never been to Sturgis, the town, but not the bike rally.
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SPEAKER_00: But you were aware of his existence.
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SPEAKER_00: It's just not something I ever would have needed to learn about.
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SPEAKER_00: People in the Midwest and the West know what Sturgis is.
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SPEAKER_01: I feel like...
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SPEAKER_01: This is your East Coast supremacy
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SPEAKER_01: showing that you don't know what Sturgis is.
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SPEAKER_01: It's massive.
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SPEAKER_01: Like in college, I know I had friends whose dads would go up to Sturgis and like...
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SPEAKER_00: Frankly, bikers, I tend to assume, are all criminals.
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SPEAKER_00: Not just random guys who own a motorcycle or whatever,
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SPEAKER_00: but people who would actually go to a motorcycle rally wearing their leather coats
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SPEAKER_00: and whatnot.
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SPEAKER_00: I assume that they're all on their way to Altamont to go beat up some hippies with pool cues.
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SPEAKER_01: I mean, we should support them in doing so.
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SPEAKER_01: No, Sturgis has been around forever.
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SPEAKER_01: I think in...
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I know lots of people that have gone to it.
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SPEAKER_01: My dad did used to have a motorcycle, but he never went to Sturgis.
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SPEAKER_01: They're not really bikers.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm sure it's a very dude-centric environment.
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SPEAKER_00: It is.
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SPEAKER_01: There's a lot of wives that go.
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SPEAKER_01: You see a lot of women on the back of motorcycles, but it's also kind of like a guy...
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SPEAKER_01: I would be much happier with sending my husband to Sturgis than I would
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SPEAKER_01: to like Vegas for a guy's trip.
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SPEAKER_01: It's just,
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SPEAKER_01: you know,
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SPEAKER_01: you're riding around with the guys and you go out to the bar afterwards with
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SPEAKER_01: the guys and it's
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SPEAKER_00: just dudes.
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SPEAKER_00: And you ride around drunk.
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SPEAKER_01: Um, ideally, ideally, you're not riding around drunk.
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SPEAKER_01: I will say, um, the last time I was in, actually two times ago, I was in South Dakota.
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SPEAKER_01: Again, we go there a lot.
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SPEAKER_01: Um, We passed by a fatal motorcycle accident.
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SPEAKER_01: They happen.
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SPEAKER_01: It was right in front of Mount Rushmore, too.
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SPEAKER_01: It was a weird stretch of highway that's not very hard to drive.
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SPEAKER_01: The road that goes down in front of Mount Rushmore, it's a wide, easy-to-drive road.
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SPEAKER_00: I've seen North by Northwest.
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SPEAKER_00: I know the area well.
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SPEAKER_01: Oh, you know the area well because you saw a movie.
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SPEAKER_00: That famously was not actually filmed on,
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SPEAKER_00: they couldn't get permission to film it at Mount Rushmore,
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SPEAKER_00: so they had to, I believe they had to build some kind of model.
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SPEAKER_00: Oh.
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SPEAKER_01: I love the area.
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SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
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SPEAKER_01: I actually, I am going to be watching as houses there continue to kind of crash post COVID blip.
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SPEAKER_01: South Dakota was a big hotspot of like second and third homes and like a lot of Airbnb houses.
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SPEAKER_01: And they do have a really healthy...
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SPEAKER_01: I am going to watch as those foreclose and maybe their bubble bursts a little bit
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SPEAKER_01: on real estate wise because we've always wanted a second home in South Dakota.
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SPEAKER_01: We just want a cabin that we can go vacation at.
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SPEAKER_00: I thought that the whole South Dakota,
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SPEAKER_00: North Dakota boom was due to the oil workers and oil fields and all
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SPEAKER_00: the money flowing around from that.
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SPEAKER_01: So yes, there is that, but that's not Black Hills.
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SPEAKER_00: Okay.
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SPEAKER_01: The Black Hills specifically were a really big,
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SPEAKER_01: they had a huge boom during COVID
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SPEAKER_01: because South Dakota didn't have COVID regulations.
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SPEAKER_01: We went during COVID times to South Dakota and it was like stepping back into another world.
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SPEAKER_01: It was this weird out-of-body experience.
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SPEAKER_01: We were like, do they know about COVID?
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SPEAKER_01: Do they know what's going on?
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SPEAKER_01: And us as Coloradans were like, oh, what's happening here?
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SPEAKER_01: It was like freedom again.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, leaving Colorado is always like entering freedom again,
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SPEAKER_00: assuming you're not going into California.
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SPEAKER_01: Okay.
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SPEAKER_01: No, everyone from California made this state awful.
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SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
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SPEAKER_01: This state is getting harder and harder.
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SPEAKER_01: I love Colorado and Colorado's home, but I don't think Colorado loves me.
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SPEAKER_00: Colorado is a horrible place.
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SPEAKER_00: It's horrible in every way.
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SPEAKER_00: Much like California, beautiful scenery, horrible people.
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SPEAKER_00: Jarvis lives there.
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SPEAKER_00: I mean, what else do you need to know?
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SPEAKER_01: Because it's all Californians that live here.
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SPEAKER_00: Hmm.
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SPEAKER_00: That's what people say.
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SPEAKER_00: I mean, that's probably more true now because the state has gotten more liberal.
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SPEAKER_00: But they always say that.
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SPEAKER_00: But if you look at polling and the demographics and whatnot,
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SPEAKER_00: by and large,
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SPEAKER_00: the people who are fleeing California are the people who often end up being...
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SPEAKER_00: The more conservative than the local population.
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SPEAKER_00: This is the thing in Texas.
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SPEAKER_00: The only caveat to this is- But
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SPEAKER_01: there's voter data to show that it was actually
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SPEAKER_01: the opposite
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SPEAKER_00: in Texas.
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SPEAKER_00: I have seen voter data that shows that.
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SPEAKER_00: I Think Less of You.
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SPEAKER_00: If you are corporate moved out of California to a new place and
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SPEAKER_00: that I think we may be discussing different time points of data because
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SPEAKER_00: so many businesses have shifted out of California to Austin that that you have a lot
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SPEAKER_00: of people who didn't necessarily think anything was wrong with California.
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SPEAKER_00: And now they have to live in Texas and they want to California, Texas.
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SPEAKER_01: Yes.
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SPEAKER_01: And they're voting for.
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SPEAKER_01: Precisely the way you would think.
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SPEAKER_01: California is seeing a huge corporate exodus.
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SPEAKER_01: So Colorado was taking in a lot of the California exodus employees
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SPEAKER_01: and corporations opening up here.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: We're kind of stuck with what happens when that happens.
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SPEAKER_01: It rapidly changed our population.
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SPEAKER_01: And now we are blue in a way that we may never get back
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SPEAKER_01: unless these people just get sick of it and leave.
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SPEAKER_01: And hopefully there's enough old time Colorado people left.
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SPEAKER_01: You're saying this to someone whose husband is a seventh generation Coloradan
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SPEAKER_01: on one side and a sixth on the other.
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SPEAKER_01: And my kids are like eighth generation Coloradans.
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SPEAKER_00: I forget, where were
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SPEAKER_01: you born?
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SPEAKER_01: Shut up.
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SPEAKER_00: In the same state you were born, jerk.
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SPEAKER_00: California.
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SPEAKER_01: California.
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SPEAKER_01: You are also a native Los Angeleno, so I want to hear none of it.
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SPEAKER_01: But yeah,
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SPEAKER_01: we had the corporate exodus and now companies are leaving Colorado a lot of
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SPEAKER_01: the same way that they left California.
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SPEAKER_01: And we We're left kind of holding the bag for all of this.
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SPEAKER_01: And we now have an actual avowed communist who is going to win CD1,
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SPEAKER_01: which is Diana DeGette's seat that she's held forever.
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SPEAKER_01: Diana DeGette was a lock solid in the House when I worked in the Senate,
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SPEAKER_01: and that was like 20 years ago.
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SPEAKER_00: She's a Republican?
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SPEAKER_01: Diana DeGette?
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I don't know who this person is.
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SPEAKER_01: No, she is a Democrat.
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SPEAKER_01: She's held the Denver District forever.
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SPEAKER_01: When Colorado was all red, she was like the lone blue spot.
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SPEAKER_01: And now the House Democrats, they're being extra on this.
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SPEAKER_01: They don't have a shot to win it.
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SPEAKER_01: But they did just announce yesterday that they see a path that they could win CD4,
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SPEAKER_01: CD5, and CD3 in Colorado.
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SPEAKER_01: And CD8 is a toss-up, but I'm like, we could be all blue.
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SPEAKER_01: We're not going to be, but we could be all blue.
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SPEAKER_00: It depends on how much the wave is.
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SPEAKER_00: I think I would say with the,
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SPEAKER_00: I don't,
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SPEAKER_00: I no longer,
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SPEAKER_00: I could be wrong, but I no longer believe there will be a major blue wave.
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SPEAKER_00: You look at,
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SPEAKER_00: because it's predicated on the polling,
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SPEAKER_00: and you look at the polling of the Michigan race and It was like an 18-point swing
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SPEAKER_00: in the primary between what Emerson polling,
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SPEAKER_00: who is an A-plus poller,
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SPEAKER_00: between what Emerson was saying was going to be between Al-Sayed
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SPEAKER_00: and what's-her-face Stevens and what it actually was.
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SPEAKER_00: Polling has no idea what the hell's going on.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: Well, in Colorado,
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SPEAKER_01: I will say the things going for Democrats is that we continue to not have
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SPEAKER_01: a state party in the state of Colorado.
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SPEAKER_01: There is not a Republican Party structure at all.
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SPEAKER_01: I don't know if we even have a head of the party at the moment.
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SPEAKER_01: We have completely divested from Colorado nationally.
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SPEAKER_01: So there's just no party structure here.
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SPEAKER_01: We have a terrible candidate whose last name is Marx, by the way.
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SPEAKER_01: I'm like, on your last name alone, I can't vote for you.
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SPEAKER_01: But the guy is crazy.
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SPEAKER_00: He said he killed people as a child.
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SPEAKER_00: I remember hearing about this guy.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: And he said he called in a hit on ISIS or something.
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SPEAKER_01: The dude is cuckoo bananas.
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SPEAKER_01: And I'm like, well,
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SPEAKER_01: we're not going to get Republicans out to the polls with this nut job at the top
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SPEAKER_01: of our ticket.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: It doesn't look good.
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SPEAKER_01: Hopefully people will split the ticket.
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SPEAKER_01: Colorado is a split the ticket state.
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SPEAKER_01: There are very few people who vote just solidly down ticket in Colorado.
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SPEAKER_00: Because they think of themselves as being political mavericks.
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SPEAKER_01: They do.
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SPEAKER_01: There are some that are.
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SPEAKER_01: If you are a Coloradan who didn't come in one of the Californian exodus waves,
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SPEAKER_01: you tend to be more independent.
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SPEAKER_01: I am not an independent voter when it comes to voting.
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SPEAKER_01: And I was in a California exodus wave.
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SPEAKER_01: So there you go.
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SPEAKER_00: I want to circle back.
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SPEAKER_00: You were saying about the...
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SPEAKER_00: How is it that Airbnb is all going, in South Dakota, all going into foreclosure?
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SPEAKER_01: Well, they're not going into foreclosure yet.
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SPEAKER_01: I just saw a lot of stuff going on to the market, which could be a sign of that in the future.
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SPEAKER_00: I've been,
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SPEAKER_00: you say that,
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SPEAKER_00: this reminds me,
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SPEAKER_00: I've been seeing there's a story percolating around of this happening all over.
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SPEAKER_00: Specifically, I saw,
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SPEAKER_00: I guess,
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SPEAKER_00: I saw Nashville first,
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SPEAKER_00: apparently Nashville,
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SPEAKER_00: Tennessee,
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SPEAKER_00: is having a similar thing where there are all these I think I saw somebody,
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SPEAKER_00: there was a house that was for sale in Nashville that had to slash its price
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SPEAKER_00: by like $400,000 with people taking a loss.
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SPEAKER_00: And yeah, in Oklahoma?
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SPEAKER_00: Broken Poe, Oklahoma.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, which I'd never heard of until recently.
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SPEAKER_00: This isn't huge on the timeline.
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SPEAKER_00: This is the kind of thing you dig up when you've just spent too much time on the timeline.
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SPEAKER_00: It's like somewhat more obscure, trending topics start popping up in your feed.
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SPEAKER_00: But there's been more and more buzz about apparently Broken Bow.
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SPEAKER_00: Oh, because Ken Paxton owns a house in Broken Bow.
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SPEAKER_00: I think that was what caused Broken Bow to suddenly...
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SPEAKER_01: Broken Bow has been a vacation spot for Westerners.
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SPEAKER_01: It was another one of those towns that was really free during COVID.
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SPEAKER_01: And a lot of people went in.
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SPEAKER_01: It's really cute.
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SPEAKER_01: I would say go vacation.
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SPEAKER_01: Like, it's actually a really cool vacation spot.
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SPEAKER_01: It's become really cute.
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SPEAKER_01: It was really sceny.
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SPEAKER_01: It was kind of hipstery.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: And a lot of Colorado, it has to.
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SPEAKER_01: My house is not worth what people think it's worth.
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SPEAKER_01: And we're seeing more and more and more houses popping up,
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SPEAKER_01: especially in the mountains where people had,
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SPEAKER_01: you know, what they thought were going to be lucrative, Verbo and Airbnbs.
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SPEAKER_01: And that well has kind of run dry now that people actually have to like go into work again.
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SPEAKER_01: So we're going to start seeing more things happening like that.
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SPEAKER_01: And Yeah, I mean, I could...
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SPEAKER_00: I can see, like, beach property, I can see going for a lot of money.
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SPEAKER_00: But, you know, just some random interior place suddenly going for insane money.
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SPEAKER_00: But that's what Broken Bow was.
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SPEAKER_00: People want to jump on a trend.
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SPEAKER_00: They convince themselves this is an investment,
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SPEAKER_00: that, like, you know, this is the next big thing.
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SPEAKER_00: But, like,
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SPEAKER_00: you know, still,
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SPEAKER_00: there are—I'm sure Broken Bow is very beautiful,
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SPEAKER_00: scenic-wise— I mean, it's
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SPEAKER_00: Oklahoma, so let's keep that in mind.
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SPEAKER_00: If you want to get a nice house for very cheap in a beautiful part of the country,
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SPEAKER_00: pretty much the entire state of West Virginia has all sorts of beautiful scenery,
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SPEAKER_00: beautiful places you can buy a house for basically nothing.
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SPEAKER_00: But people don't want that.
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SPEAKER_00: They want the amenities of urban living.
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SPEAKER_00: I want to be able to get Ethiopian food near my house.
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SPEAKER_00: But, you know,
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SPEAKER_00: if you get a house in West Virginia,
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SPEAKER_00: you might have to settle for some Hunt Brothers pizza from the gas station.
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SPEAKER_00: But, you know, it's just, or cook for yourself.
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SPEAKER_00: Speaking of which, speaking of which, that was a good transition.
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SPEAKER_01: I missed all of the discourse yesterday.
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SPEAKER_00: I
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SPEAKER_01: choose the weirdest days to be traveling and have zero, zero Wi-Fi.
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SPEAKER_00: Yesterday,
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SPEAKER_00: I think Joel Berry,
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SPEAKER_00: who used to be at the Babylon Bee,
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SPEAKER_00: started Burrito Gate, the Burrito Discourse of the Day.
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SPEAKER_00: Joel Berry...
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SPEAKER_00: Hot take.
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SPEAKER_01: I had nothing to complain about what he said.
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SPEAKER_00: No, neither did I.
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SPEAKER_00: Matt Walsh needs to crawl under whatever rock that he emerged from
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SPEAKER_00: and just live there.
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SPEAKER_01: Here's the thing with Matt Walsh.
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SPEAKER_01: He is...
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SPEAKER_01: He will be spot on about two or three things he says in a week and everything else is garbage.
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SPEAKER_01: And it's hard because you're like, oh, that one thing you said was absolutely spot on.
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SPEAKER_01: And the rest of the time he's just.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, no.
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SPEAKER_00: I read.
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SPEAKER_00: What is that?
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SPEAKER_00: The Dunning-Kruger effect,
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SPEAKER_00: I think,
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SPEAKER_00: where you open a newspaper and you read a lot of stories and you agree with them
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SPEAKER_00: and get concerned about what they're talking about and then you see a thing
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SPEAKER_00: that discusses something you know about and you're like, well, they're wrong here.
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SPEAKER_00: But then you don't go back and...
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SPEAKER_00: And you don't go back and reevaluate your previous—Matt Walsh has hit the point
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SPEAKER_00: for me where I'm just disregarding it was a Dunning-Kruger effect thing
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SPEAKER_00: at this point.
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SPEAKER_00: If Matt Walsh says something I agree with,
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SPEAKER_00: I stop and I say, maybe I should reevaluate my stance on this.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm exaggerating.
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SPEAKER_00: But— Nonetheless, Matt Walsh just went on this nut screed.
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SPEAKER_00: A lot of people on the right started doing it.
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SPEAKER_00: Chris Ruffo down in Florida, who is an...
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SPEAKER_00: Historically,
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SPEAKER_00: I haven't really had an issue with,
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SPEAKER_00: but a lot of people were going on this thing about how everything's more expensive,
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SPEAKER_00: especially burritos, which are cost $20 now, apparently, even though they don't.
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SPEAKER_00: And the government needs to do something about this,
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SPEAKER_00: which before I went to bed,
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SPEAKER_00: I I mean, I literally just called for it two minutes ago.
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SPEAKER_00: I don't think people understand how bad things would get.
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SPEAKER_00: I get it.
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SPEAKER_00: If there was a way to just nudge prices down a little bit, do you think people wouldn't do it?
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SPEAKER_00: It's an issue of-
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SPEAKER_01: Hold on.
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SPEAKER_01: Hold on.
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SPEAKER_01: Because we do have tariffs that are making our prices
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SPEAKER_00: absolutely higher.
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SPEAKER_00: Tariffs have literally nothing to do with burritos.
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SPEAKER_00: What do they have to do with burritos?
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SPEAKER_00: Explain what part of burritos- Produce and beef.
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SPEAKER_00: Those are both largely exempted from the tariffs.
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SPEAKER_00: Trump almost immediately rolled back tariffs on pretty much all the food stuff, as I recall.
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SPEAKER_00: The tariffs are mostly on industrial goods, which have nothing to do with burritos.
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SPEAKER_01: How do you think that the problem when you talk about like,
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SPEAKER_01: oh, it's only industrial goods is, Meat has to be processed.
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SPEAKER_01: Things have to go through machines.
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SPEAKER_01: Like when your gas costs more,
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SPEAKER_01: when a piece of a machine costs more that they're processing beef with,
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SPEAKER_01: the fact that we have to be, I mean, there's a lot of other issues.
20:30
SPEAKER_01: And I have said, oh, I'm going to sound so socialist on this.
20:34
SPEAKER_01: We have an equity problem.
20:37
SPEAKER_01: No.
20:39
SPEAKER_01: We have a consolidation problem.
20:41
SPEAKER_01: We have a monopolization problem.
20:43
SPEAKER_01: Those are all adding.
20:46
SPEAKER_00: This is the problem.
20:46
SPEAKER_00: There is no burrito monopoly.
20:48
SPEAKER_00: Just because these people are- There is a meat processing monopoly.
20:52
SPEAKER_00: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
20:54
SPEAKER_00: Stop.
20:54
SPEAKER_01: There is a slug.
20:56
SPEAKER_00: Just because, no,
20:58
SPEAKER_00: because just because these people are too lazy to go down to the local Mexican place
21:04
SPEAKER_00: and get a $10 burrito that all, pretty much every local Mexican place will sell you.
21:08
SPEAKER_01: No, they want a $7 burrito.
21:11
SPEAKER_00: They want, maybe they're, I'm sure you have more Mexicans.
21:15
SPEAKER_01: I understand what you're saying.
21:17
SPEAKER_01: People are lazy and do not know how to shop and cook for themselves.
21:20
SPEAKER_01: And that definitely is a huge part of the conversation.
21:25
SPEAKER_01: Look, I DoorDash sometimes.
21:26
SPEAKER_01: I Instacart sometimes.
21:28
SPEAKER_01: I also make a wage enough that I can do that.
21:31
SPEAKER_01: And I'm not dumb enough to be like,
21:33
SPEAKER_01: oh, my God, my costs have shut up because I'm using Instacart.
21:38
SPEAKER_01: No, no.
21:39
SPEAKER_01: The price of food is more expensive.
21:41
SPEAKER_01: Things are way more expensive.
21:43
SPEAKER_01: We are really squeezed.
21:45
SPEAKER_01: If I'm making as much as I'm making and I'm feeling squeezed, there are...
21:52
SPEAKER_01: So look, there is out of control inflation in a lot of our household everyday goods.
21:58
SPEAKER_01: And Donald Trump specifically ran on lowering prices and has not.
22:04
SPEAKER_01: However, I also understand what you're saying.
22:07
SPEAKER_01: And we don't want the deflationary pressure and we don't want to spiral out of control.
22:12
SPEAKER_01: And a lot of user behavior does need to be modified.
22:16
SPEAKER_00: We have,
22:18
SPEAKER_00: I think I looked yesterday,
22:19
SPEAKER_00: we have, it's like somewhere on high twos inflation right now.
22:23
SPEAKER_00: Prices are high because we had three years of inflation as high as 7%.
22:29
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
22:30
SPEAKER_00: I think maybe higher.
22:31
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
22:33
SPEAKER_00: You don't undo that.
22:35
SPEAKER_00: So what happened was you had a massive injection of just free money into the system,
22:42
SPEAKER_00: which Biden was warned this will cause rampant inflation.
22:46
SPEAKER_00: They said that this...
22:49
SPEAKER_00: Functionally disproved,
22:51
SPEAKER_00: which hasn't been talked about and isn't talked about enough,
22:53
SPEAKER_00: everything to do with what they call modern monetary theory.
22:58
SPEAKER_00: Because modern monetary theory always said the inflation isn't really a concern.
23:04
SPEAKER_00: They were wrong in those projections.
23:07
SPEAKER_00: You can just make free money all you want and it won't cause a problem.
23:11
SPEAKER_00: And it did.
23:12
SPEAKER_00: At the same time,
23:13
SPEAKER_00: you had COVID,
23:14
SPEAKER_00: which shut down everything and caused—I actually looked up the Fred charts
23:18
SPEAKER_00: on these things yesterday in a conversation with someone.
23:21
SPEAKER_00: You had the median income drop precipitously.
23:28
SPEAKER_00: So what has happened is that we had massive inflation.
23:31
SPEAKER_00: At the same time,
23:31
SPEAKER_00: people were making,
23:32
SPEAKER_00: in aggregate,
23:33
SPEAKER_00: less money,
23:36
SPEAKER_00: which should not—that is— Normally, these two things do not happen at the same time.
23:42
SPEAKER_00: When there's a drop in aggregate incomes,
23:44
SPEAKER_00: there should be a drop in price as well,
23:46
SPEAKER_00: but they're pumping so much money into the economy that prices went up instead.
23:53
SPEAKER_00: So where we are now,
23:55
SPEAKER_00: we have this year hit the point where median average income is now a little bit
24:04
SPEAKER_00: above where it was in 2019.
24:08
SPEAKER_00: Prices are higher after several years.
24:14
SPEAKER_00: Trump has in fact, or I should say the Fed, has in fact gotten inflation under control.
24:20
SPEAKER_00: Inflation is fine.
24:21
SPEAKER_00: Inflation is at the historic norm rate.
24:26
SPEAKER_00: We don't need to drop prices.
24:28
SPEAKER_00: We need people to make more money.
24:30
SPEAKER_01: We do need to drop prices, though.
24:34
SPEAKER_00: You cannot start a deflationary spiral.
24:39
SPEAKER_01: I understand that.
24:41
SPEAKER_01: I wish that we would be looking at things like why did we have a lot of processors
24:49
SPEAKER_01: of different foods close in the last few years?
24:53
SPEAKER_01: Why have we had like catastrophic losses in the manufacturing side of food industry?
24:59
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
25:20
SPEAKER_01: You would see that a lot of these places closed because they had onerous regulations
25:25
SPEAKER_01: and were being taxed out of existence.
25:40
SPEAKER_01: Why aren't we looking at that?
25:43
SPEAKER_01: Why aren't we looking at how we are squashing companies providing us food
25:49
SPEAKER_01: to be net zero and things?
25:51
SPEAKER_01: I mean- So there's a lot of policy that America could look at
25:58
SPEAKER_01: that would reduce prices of things like beef,
26:02
SPEAKER_01: things like eggs, because we put in crazy regulations on them.
26:06
SPEAKER_01: Why aren't we looking at those things?
26:08
SPEAKER_01: That does bother me.
26:10
SPEAKER_00: So, yes,
26:10
SPEAKER_00: it is extremely funny seeing the left and the progressive left especially try
26:17
SPEAKER_00: to make hay out of increases in prices in various things like oil or gasoline
26:24
SPEAKER_00: and beef specifically that they have gone on the record for decades now
26:33
SPEAKER_00: as saying we need to try to phase out the use of entirely.
26:37
SPEAKER_01: And they're doing it.
26:39
SPEAKER_01: And they're doing it.
26:39
SPEAKER_01: And we're letting them do it.
26:41
SPEAKER_01: By saying like, oh, the prices aren't going up.
26:45
SPEAKER_01: Oh, it is affordable.
26:46
SPEAKER_01: We're not looking at all of the regulations that got us here and pointing out all of
26:52
SPEAKER_01: the steps that the left has taken to get us exactly here.
26:55
SPEAKER_01: It is a real issue.
26:59
SPEAKER_00: If you want to know why meat processors are going out of business, though,
27:03
SPEAKER_00: because,
27:03
SPEAKER_00: you know,
27:04
SPEAKER_00: free market economics says that if you have a price spike,
27:08
SPEAKER_00: you should have more players enter the market, which will then bring the price down.
27:13
SPEAKER_00: There is,
27:14
SPEAKER_00: honestly,
27:15
SPEAKER_00: the barriers to end—I'm sure there are regulatory hurdles that have to be met
27:19
SPEAKER_00: to become a meat processor.
27:20
SPEAKER_01: And, by the way, if you live in— There are, but I don't know that it's—
27:25
SPEAKER_00: And why this isn't happening,
27:27
SPEAKER_00: why they're closing,
27:28
SPEAKER_00: is that most of the jobs at these meat processors were done by illegal immigrants
27:33
SPEAKER_00: or immigrants of questionable...
27:36
SPEAKER_00: And this is a corollary of a lot,
27:40
SPEAKER_00: not even just deportations, self-deportations, which have gone up quite a lot.
27:49
SPEAKER_01: I don't know if I totally...
27:50
SPEAKER_01: I agree with that.
27:52
SPEAKER_01: But there is some of that.
27:54
SPEAKER_00: I don't think— I think they can't find people—they can't find domestic people
27:58
SPEAKER_00: who want to work in meat processing in middle-of-nowhere Ohio
28:01
SPEAKER_00: or wherever it is they do
28:02
SPEAKER_01: it.
28:03
SPEAKER_01: They meat processing Greeley, and they use fully illegal immigrants.
28:09
SPEAKER_01: I will say that.
28:11
SPEAKER_01: Also, it's because they can— And other corporate taxes.
28:15
SPEAKER_01: More civilized parts.
28:43
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, well, where do you think cows are raised?
28:48
SPEAKER_01: Like, Colorado is one of the largest beef producers in the nation.
28:53
SPEAKER_01: And we are completely taxing all of our farmers out of existence.
28:58
SPEAKER_00: I think Montana and the Dakotas and the Dakotas and Wyoming are big into cows.
29:02
SPEAKER_00: They're all good, solid Republican states.
29:05
SPEAKER_01: Sure, sure.
29:06
SPEAKER_01: Sure.
29:07
SPEAKER_01: They ship all their animals to be processed at a meat processor in Colorado or Nebraska.
29:14
SPEAKER_01: And Nebraska also going that way.
29:18
SPEAKER_01: There are other causes of some of the rising prices that I wish we would look into
29:23
SPEAKER_01: and acknowledge.
29:24
SPEAKER_01: And also...
29:26
SPEAKER_01: People are idiots and need to learn how to adult for themselves.
29:30
SPEAKER_01: People don't know how to shop.
29:31
SPEAKER_01: People don't know how to cook.
29:32
SPEAKER_01: I did a show with Bridget Phetasy that was mostly about how people don't know how to What?
29:59
SPEAKER_01: Welcome to Prices in the West, my friend.
30:02
SPEAKER_00: I could go down to my local store right now.
30:04
SPEAKER_00: I'm planning on doing this this week.
30:06
SPEAKER_00: They have 80% ground beef for $5 a pound.
30:10
SPEAKER_00: This is the problem.
30:12
SPEAKER_00: And I realized this when I drove up north.
30:14
SPEAKER_00: Yes, but this is what I'm saying.
30:18
SPEAKER_00: I drove up north.
30:20
SPEAKER_00: As I go north, each state I hit, gas gets substantially more expensive.
30:25
SPEAKER_00: Finally, I hit western New York, and gas was like $5.50 a gallon or something like that.
30:31
SPEAKER_00: And I'm sitting there saying all of these people don't leave their states.
30:36
SPEAKER_00: They don't understand that everyone isn't living like this.
30:39
SPEAKER_00: They don't understand.
30:40
SPEAKER_00: Where I live, gas was at the time $3.19 a gallon.
30:45
SPEAKER_00: Their local policies and taxes were making everything so expensive there.
30:53
SPEAKER_01: Sure.
30:53
SPEAKER_01: But I do just want to flip something that you just said and said that a lot
30:58
SPEAKER_01: of people don't understand what it's like in other places.
31:02
SPEAKER_01: And I would say that when coming to an argument about pricing,
31:07
SPEAKER_01: you have to understand that not everyone has the very low prices where you live.
31:13
SPEAKER_01: We all are like, I mean, I don't think a lot of people understand how Exactly crushing it is.
31:20
SPEAKER_01: Living in a state like Colorado where I am taxed to death,
31:26
SPEAKER_01: the only thing that's not taxed,
31:27
SPEAKER_01: by the way, is my corporation, which makes zero sense.
31:30
SPEAKER_01: We have one of the best corporate tax rates.
31:32
SPEAKER_01: But I'm bleeding everywhere else.
31:35
SPEAKER_01: Property taxes, I'm paying huge taxes.
31:37
SPEAKER_01: Fees, it was $1,200 to register my car.
31:39
SPEAKER_01: It's
31:44
SPEAKER_01: It's insane.
31:45
SPEAKER_01: Yes, I realize that's a Colorado problem,
31:48
SPEAKER_01: but you shouldn't have to move all over the place to do this.
31:51
SPEAKER_01: We shouldn't have to.
31:53
SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
31:54
SPEAKER_01: It's just shameful that.
31:57
SPEAKER_00: I used to live in North Jersey, I'm well aware.
31:59
SPEAKER_00: A reason that we chose to move to where we moved to was because of the,
32:07
SPEAKER_00: not necessarily the politics, which is quite red, but was the lower cost of living.
32:15
SPEAKER_00: The problem is you all
32:17
SPEAKER_01: move there and you raise the prices for everyone
32:20
SPEAKER_00: else.
32:22
SPEAKER_00: The housing prices have a bit.
32:25
SPEAKER_00: What is,
32:26
SPEAKER_00: would you say,
32:28
SPEAKER_00: the one defining characteristic of America that sets itself apart
32:33
SPEAKER_00: from almost any other country in the Western world?
32:40
SPEAKER_00: Mobility.
32:41
SPEAKER_00: The one defining characteristic of America.
32:46
SPEAKER_00: Let me finish talking.
32:47
SPEAKER_00: The one defining characteristic of America that sets itself apart
32:51
SPEAKER_00: from most other places in the Western world is the willingness of its people
32:57
SPEAKER_00: to pick up and move.
32:59
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
33:00
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
33:00
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
33:00
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
33:29
SPEAKER_00: I can't remember which one he was.
33:32
SPEAKER_00: They lived in New York State.
33:34
SPEAKER_00: There wasn't going to be enough money for him to be able to buy land near
33:41
SPEAKER_00: where his parents were.
33:42
SPEAKER_00: So they picked up stakes.
33:44
SPEAKER_00: They went out the middle of frickin' nowhere with literally nothing
33:48
SPEAKER_00: because that's what you had to do if you wanted to have success.
33:52
SPEAKER_00: This is a hallmark of America.
33:55
SPEAKER_00: And people being unwilling to do it is their problem.
34:00
SPEAKER_01: It is and it's not.
34:01
SPEAKER_01: I don't think you should have to move.
34:03
SPEAKER_01: Give up your community.
34:04
SPEAKER_01: Give up all of your friends, all of your family, everything that you've built because you can't.
34:11
SPEAKER_01: Look, I'm someone who- Life isn't fair.
34:14
SPEAKER_00: No one ever claimed it is.
34:16
SPEAKER_01: I get that.
34:17
SPEAKER_01: And also, I think that's actually a bad part of America.
34:20
SPEAKER_01: I think that we don't have a lot of community.
34:23
SPEAKER_01: I think that we don't have relationships that I wish that we were more connected
34:27
SPEAKER_01: to communities and things.
34:28
SPEAKER_01: And I think we have lost a lot of that.
34:30
SPEAKER_01: And I think that's really sad for us.
34:52
SPEAKER_00: I would argue,
34:53
SPEAKER_00: in fact,
34:54
SPEAKER_00: that people not being willing to move to communities that are more in line
35:01
SPEAKER_00: with their ideological and political affinities because they're afraid of leaving
35:06
SPEAKER_00: where they're from is in fact worse overall for the human soul and for society and
35:11
SPEAKER_00: for themselves.
35:13
SPEAKER_00: I'm going to agree to disagree.
35:15
SPEAKER_01: I'm going to agree to disagree there
35:17
SPEAKER_01: because I do actually think like I grew up moving around all the time
35:23
SPEAKER_01: and we moved all around all the time because my dad was upwardly mobile in banking.
35:28
SPEAKER_01: And if you want to move up the ladder in banking,
35:32
SPEAKER_01: you have to physically move because you need to go to the next job that's open.
35:37
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
35:38
SPEAKER_01: I fundamentally understand this.
35:40
SPEAKER_01: And I also think that I missed out on a lot because I don't have
35:47
SPEAKER_01: a place that's home like my husband does.
35:49
SPEAKER_01: I don't feel anchored anywhere.
35:52
SPEAKER_01: I don't have family that's anchored anywhere.
35:54
SPEAKER_01: My parents buy a new house like American.
35:57
SPEAKER_01: American.
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SPEAKER_01: I actually find it really sad.
36:22
SPEAKER_00: Fundamentally American.
36:23
SPEAKER_00: It is our defining hallmark.
36:25
SPEAKER_01: It's good to be connected to communities.
36:27
SPEAKER_01: It's good to have anchors.
36:29
SPEAKER_01: And I'm sad that we're all kind of floating around listless.
36:34
SPEAKER_00: That's the problem.
36:35
SPEAKER_00: We're not floating around listless.
36:37
SPEAKER_00: I think a lot of people are.
36:39
SPEAKER_00: I think you and
36:40
SPEAKER_01: I aren't.
36:40
SPEAKER_01: I think a lot of
36:41
SPEAKER_00: people are.
36:42
SPEAKER_00: What you're describing is a world that no longer exists.
36:47
SPEAKER_00: In the 40s, 50s,
36:48
SPEAKER_00: and 60s,
36:49
SPEAKER_00: when you're talking about there being a better sense of community— All
36:54
SPEAKER_00: of those people were moving all over the place.
36:56
SPEAKER_00: They were moving to extreme outer ring Xers.
36:59
SPEAKER_01: I'm not saying that the 40s, 50s, and 60s were ideal and that's when times were the best.
37:05
SPEAKER_00: No, no, I know you're not saying they're ideal.
37:07
SPEAKER_00: I'm fully saying let's
37:08
SPEAKER_01: return to a monarchy and we'll all just live
37:10
SPEAKER_00: where we live.
37:11
SPEAKER_00: You said we don't have a sense of community like we used to.
37:15
SPEAKER_00: This is the Robert Putnam issue.
37:17
SPEAKER_00: This is the Bowling Alone issue.
37:18
SPEAKER_00: During that period when those affinity organizations- I know, but I
37:22
SPEAKER_01: didn't place a period on it.
37:24
SPEAKER_01: That was you putting words in my
37:26
SPEAKER_00: mouth.
37:28
SPEAKER_00: When these affinity organizations and community organizations were growing up
37:32
SPEAKER_00: in America was when there was a massive surge.
37:35
SPEAKER_00: In the post-war years, there was a massive surge of mobility.
37:40
SPEAKER_00: Like I said, to outer rings, exurbs of cities.
37:44
SPEAKER_00: One of the problems you have,
37:46
SPEAKER_00: and I don't know if I said this here before, but I've said this before.
37:50
SPEAKER_00: One of the problems that you have is that you have a whole bunch of millennials
37:54
SPEAKER_00: and you have a whole bunch of Zoomers who look at their grandparents
37:59
SPEAKER_00: or their parents' house and they say, why can't I live in that place?
38:03
SPEAKER_00: This beautifully developed place.
38:05
SPEAKER_00: This beautifully developed neighborhood with everything you could want within walking distance.
38:11
SPEAKER_00: It's wonderful.
38:12
SPEAKER_00: Or within a short drive.
38:13
SPEAKER_00: It's this great sense of community.
38:16
SPEAKER_00: It's these nice lawns that are well-established.
38:20
SPEAKER_00: When those parents and grandparents moved there, those were probably empty fields.
38:27
SPEAKER_01: Sure,
38:29
SPEAKER_01: but the grandparents stayed and made a community out of it and made something great
38:34
SPEAKER_01: and came together and didn't pick up and leave the second things were rough.
38:39
SPEAKER_00: The grandparents did pick up and leave and move to somewhere and built a community there.
38:45
SPEAKER_00: They didn't sit around in their parents' house complaining that,
38:49
SPEAKER_00: why can't I buy a house next door to mom and dad?
38:53
SPEAKER_00: It would be so much more convenient.
38:55
SPEAKER_01: Look, I had to buy in friggin' Johnstown, which right now is like the hottest new town.
39:00
SPEAKER_01: But when I bought, I bought the week that the market crashed under Barack Obama.
39:07
SPEAKER_01: I bought it at the lowest.
39:08
SPEAKER_01: And I was lobbying for credit unions, so I got an employee rate.
39:11
SPEAKER_01: I had like a 1% loan.
39:15
SPEAKER_01: Why we sold that house, I don't know.
39:18
SPEAKER_00: But yeah, so...
39:21
SPEAKER_00: No, but that's what I enter.
39:23
SPEAKER_01: I understand what you're saying.
39:25
SPEAKER_01: I am saying and when I say like communities and things,
39:29
SPEAKER_01: I do think it's a shame that people have to run from states constantly.
39:34
SPEAKER_01: We have to run from California and have to run from Colorado like I do.
39:39
SPEAKER_01: And I am in the middle of kind of running from my state,
39:43
SPEAKER_01: although I'm going somewhere even more liberal.
39:46
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
39:47
SPEAKER_01: But.
39:48
SPEAKER_01: I wish that we would encourage people to stay and fight as well.
39:52
SPEAKER_01: I wish that we would say that America is worth fighting for
39:56
SPEAKER_01: and even places like Denver and Los Angeles are worth fighting for.
40:01
SPEAKER_01: If you look at some of the changes, look at even San Francisco.
40:05
SPEAKER_01: Now that London Breed or what was her last name?
40:08
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, is out of San Francisco.
40:10
SPEAKER_01: And I forget the guy's name who's the mayor now.
40:14
SPEAKER_01: He's super liberal,
40:15
SPEAKER_01: but he's making really tiny changes that have completely turned the city around.
40:20
SPEAKER_01: We're not in prime poop map days anymore there.
40:24
SPEAKER_01: I wish we would look at stuff like that and take more look at...
40:28
SPEAKER_01: We're not doing that, and we could be.
40:52
SPEAKER_00: So in San Francisco,
40:54
SPEAKER_00: for instance,
40:55
SPEAKER_00: he got elected not by Republicans who stuck around because there's probably eight
41:00
SPEAKER_00: of them.
41:00
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it was also Democrats who were sick of it.
41:03
SPEAKER_01: Yes.
41:05
SPEAKER_00: The answer,
41:07
SPEAKER_00: the worst thing a person can have happen to them in many cases is
41:12
SPEAKER_00: to get everything they think they want.
41:16
SPEAKER_01: But I don't know that they even did in San Francisco.
41:21
SPEAKER_01: I think Denver is getting exactly what they want.
41:26
SPEAKER_00: Things got really bad in San Francisco and they eventually elected,
41:34
SPEAKER_00: as you said, they elected someone who was willing to rein it in.
41:42
SPEAKER_00: Not Republicans doing this.
41:44
SPEAKER_00: This is how people learn.
41:46
SPEAKER_00: If your kid...
41:48
SPEAKER_00: Is fascinated by the fire on the stove.
41:52
SPEAKER_00: You can tell them, don't touch that fire.
41:54
SPEAKER_00: Don't touch that fire.
41:57
SPEAKER_00: Don't touch that fire.
41:58
SPEAKER_00: Don't touch that fire.
41:58
SPEAKER_00: You're going to hurt yourself.
41:59
SPEAKER_00: Don't touch that fire.
42:00
SPEAKER_00: Until the day that kid shoves their hand into the fire out of curiosity,
42:05
SPEAKER_00: they're not going to understand what the ramifications are.
42:08
SPEAKER_00: And after that, they're much less likely to do it again.
42:11
SPEAKER_01: But see,
42:11
SPEAKER_01: I think the problem,
42:12
SPEAKER_01: and this goes back to us talking about it being like anchored or not,
42:17
SPEAKER_01: I feel like the problem is a lot of people don't learn that lesson
42:20
SPEAKER_01: because things get a little hard and then they just import their problems to
42:24
SPEAKER_01: the place that they're going next.
42:29
SPEAKER_00: It's a process.
42:30
SPEAKER_00: It's a slow process.
42:31
SPEAKER_01: But you see what I'm saying, right?
42:33
SPEAKER_01: All the Californians who didn't stick around to really suffer in the suck then came
42:38
SPEAKER_01: to Colorado and destroyed our state.
42:40
SPEAKER_01: And now that things are crashing here and corporations are moving out,
42:44
SPEAKER_01: they're taking it to Tennessee.
42:47
SPEAKER_01: So it's just wild watching people.
42:51
SPEAKER_01: Who don't stick around for the bad lesson and continue to ruin everywhere else that they go.
42:58
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you're always going
42:59
SPEAKER_00: to have that.
43:00
SPEAKER_00: But again, that goes with the purely American...
43:05
SPEAKER_00: This is why we need a monarchist.
43:08
SPEAKER_00: We do not.
43:09
SPEAKER_00: I play a monarchist on the internet.
43:11
SPEAKER_00: You're much more in reality, much more in favor of monarchy.
43:16
SPEAKER_01: I have changed radically.
43:19
SPEAKER_01: And actually,
43:20
SPEAKER_01: I was having this conversation with my husband last night,
43:22
SPEAKER_01: and he was talking about a return to the monarchy and how in his ideal scenario—
43:29
SPEAKER_01: A Habsburg will be returned to the throne and a good Catholic will be returned to
43:33
SPEAKER_01: the throne because he wants a Catholic monarchist.
43:36
SPEAKER_01: Even though he is Orthodox,
43:37
SPEAKER_01: he's like, Orthodox kings weren't exactly very good, to put it lightly.
43:44
SPEAKER_01: So he's like, I want a Catholic ruler that
43:48
SPEAKER_00: will let him be Orthodox.
43:51
SPEAKER_00: America would make an amazingly poor monarchy.
43:54
SPEAKER_01: It really would.
43:55
SPEAKER_01: We're the worst.
43:56
SPEAKER_01: Like, it would be horrible.
43:59
SPEAKER_00: I have significantly more sympathy for arguments about restoring European monarchies
44:07
SPEAKER_00: and some of the powers to the European monarchies.
44:09
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, to be clear, I don't think he wants this in America.
44:13
SPEAKER_01: I think this is like he wants a return to Europe.
44:17
SPEAKER_01: Europe honestly probably should return to monarchies in many ways.
44:23
SPEAKER_00: Well, they need to start by getting rid of the EU, which is a catastrophic failure all around.
44:28
SPEAKER_00: Amen.
44:31
SPEAKER_00: It's seen strains recently during the whole,
44:34
SPEAKER_00: I can't remember how to pronounce that place in Spain,
44:36
SPEAKER_00: the weird enclave on the Moroccan.
44:38
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
44:39
SPEAKER_00: It's seen strains because a lot of the other countries were rallying to shut down
44:44
SPEAKER_00: the border between Spain, basically kick Spain out of the Shenzhen zone.
44:49
SPEAKER_00: Shenzhen.
44:50
SPEAKER_00: Whatever.
44:51
SPEAKER_01: And if they kicked Spain out of the Schengen, I mean, that doesn't really...
44:56
SPEAKER_01: So Schengen and EU are two totally different mechanisms.
45:00
SPEAKER_01: I know, but they are
45:01
SPEAKER_00: spiritually very linked.
45:04
SPEAKER_01: Well, it's also,
45:05
SPEAKER_01: if you kick Spain out of the Schengen,
45:07
SPEAKER_01: you have to construct a border along France and Portugal.
45:12
SPEAKER_01: And I don't see them doing that, but they should.
45:15
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
45:16
SPEAKER_00: The Schengen and the EU are linked because they're both the children of
45:21
SPEAKER_00: the same explicitly communist projects to destroy cultural identity
45:28
SPEAKER_00: within European countries and forge a pan-European state.
45:35
SPEAKER_00: Ireland is just so butthurt that they can never join Schengen.
46:05
SPEAKER_01: They're so upset by that.
46:07
SPEAKER_01: It's just hilarious.
46:08
SPEAKER_00: I met many lovely people in Ireland.
46:10
SPEAKER_00: I actually quite liked Ireland.
46:11
SPEAKER_00: But also, I met many politically sane people in Ireland.
46:15
SPEAKER_01: Another failed place that my husband and I would move to tomorrow if we could.
46:20
SPEAKER_01: Because we want to go in and fight for things that we
46:24
SPEAKER_00: believe in.
46:25
SPEAKER_00: There's a thing called Battered Women's Syndrome.
46:28
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
46:31
SPEAKER_01: I don't have it from my sweet husband.
46:33
SPEAKER_01: I have it from my government.
46:35
SPEAKER_00: I think you and your husband may have some form of battered women's syndrome
46:41
SPEAKER_00: when it comes to places you want to live.
46:43
SPEAKER_01: Look, we're Orthodox.
46:44
SPEAKER_01: Suffering is like a big part of our salvation.
46:48
SPEAKER_00: How very Jewish of you.
46:50
SPEAKER_01: No, it's Orthodox, too.
46:52
SPEAKER_00: I hate to break it to you.
46:54
SPEAKER_00: The Jews had it first.
46:57
SPEAKER_01: Well...
46:58
SPEAKER_01: Okay, now we're going to get into theology.
47:00
SPEAKER_01: We'll skip past that.
47:02
SPEAKER_01: But, you know, we do say that we inherited the new Israel, so they retained a lot of that.
47:11
SPEAKER_01: No, I mean, suffering is very built into our worldview and our religion.
47:19
SPEAKER_00: Speaking of suffering, I've eaten your cooking at times.
47:23
SPEAKER_00: What the fuck?
47:25
SPEAKER_00: It says here to discuss how to shop and cook for yourself.
47:29
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
47:30
SPEAKER_01: Also, by the way, you actually have it.
47:34
SPEAKER_01: There was one day in Ireland, I reheated crab claws and you were asleep.
47:38
SPEAKER_01: So by the time you ate them, they tasted like absolute crap, I'm sure.
47:43
SPEAKER_00: You've never tasted my cooking, but okay.
47:47
SPEAKER_00: I was trying to come with a good transition.
47:49
SPEAKER_00: I have tasted your... Well, no, I
47:50
SPEAKER_01: had your wife's cooking.
47:51
SPEAKER_01: I haven't even had your cooking.
47:53
SPEAKER_00: You wouldn't dare criticize her cooking because it was good.
47:56
SPEAKER_01: I'm not going to criticize your wife's cooking.
47:58
SPEAKER_01: I actually really like your wife.
47:59
SPEAKER_01: She's great.
48:01
SPEAKER_00: So how to shop and cook for yourself.
48:03
SPEAKER_00: This goes back to the burrito conversation.
48:06
SPEAKER_01: We got wildly off track by economics there.
48:10
SPEAKER_01: That's good.
48:10
SPEAKER_00: I like talking economics.
48:11
SPEAKER_00: I'll talk economics all day long.
48:14
SPEAKER_00: People need to learn how to shop and cook for themselves.
48:17
SPEAKER_00: And this is not anyone who follows me,
48:21
SPEAKER_00: statistically speaking,
48:22
SPEAKER_00: anyone who follows me on Twitter and listens to this is probably between the age
48:27
SPEAKER_00: of 50 and like 70 because that's my wheelhouse.
48:30
SPEAKER_01: Doesn't mean they know how to shop for themselves and cook for themselves, though.
48:33
SPEAKER_01: That's true.
48:33
SPEAKER_00: But, you know, they can send this to their children or grandchildren.
48:39
SPEAKER_01: Yes, and also listen to the podcast I did with Bridget Phetasy exactly about this.
48:45
SPEAKER_00: How I shop and how I pretty much always shopped is you look at the ad,
48:52
SPEAKER_00: you see what's on sale that week, and then you just plan your week around the sales.
48:58
SPEAKER_00: This seems obvious to me.
49:00
SPEAKER_00: But people don't seem to be aware of this.
49:03
SPEAKER_00: Everyone's talking about ground beef price as if you should never, ever,
49:09
SPEAKER_00: ever be paying the sticker price on ground beef in the same way you should never,
49:13
SPEAKER_00: ever, ever be paying the sticker price on a car.
49:17
SPEAKER_01: Well, people also don't understand how to cook.
49:20
SPEAKER_01: And if they knew basic, basic,
49:23
SPEAKER_01: basic cooking skills,
49:24
SPEAKER_01: they wouldn't be locked into like when you're looking at ground beef.
49:27
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
49:28
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
49:28
SPEAKER_01: Ground beef is exorbitantly expensive right now.
49:31
SPEAKER_01: I use a lot of it for my blog.
49:34
SPEAKER_01: Well, no, everywhere it is.
49:37
SPEAKER_01: Beef is expensive more places and ground beef is even more expensive.
49:41
SPEAKER_01: You can do things like buying your own cuts and grinding beef if you have a meat grinder.
49:46
SPEAKER_01: No, it's totally a pain in the butt.
49:48
SPEAKER_01: We've used our meat grinder once and it still smells like the feral hog that my husband shot.
49:55
SPEAKER_00: I will vomit if anything goes near it.
49:56
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
49:58
SPEAKER_01: But if you understand like cooking Chuck Blade,
50:02
SPEAKER_01: I'm going to do a bunch of Chuck Blade recipes on my site right now
50:05
SPEAKER_01: because that's what's on sale and that's what's really cheap right now.
50:08
SPEAKER_01: If you know to buy,
50:10
SPEAKER_01: when chicken was really high a few years ago,
50:12
SPEAKER_01: if you're buying bone-in skin on thighs, it's so much cheaper than Yeah.
50:32
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
50:47
SPEAKER_01: Going through like a million recipes in a day and that saves genuine time for you.
50:52
SPEAKER_01: Why are you buying stuff like that?
50:54
SPEAKER_01: You are just jacking up the costs on something stupid.
50:57
SPEAKER_01: If you don't need ground beef for something,
51:00
SPEAKER_01: use a roast and shred it and use that meat in the recipe instead of ground beef.
51:06
SPEAKER_01: Use whatever you can to lower the price.
51:08
SPEAKER_01: But people don't understand how to actually like take care of themselves and how
51:15
SPEAKER_01: to prepare different foods.
51:17
SPEAKER_00: Get yourself...
51:18
SPEAKER_00: A good slow cooker.
51:19
SPEAKER_00: They're not that expensive.
51:21
SPEAKER_00: I'm not talking about Instant Pot.
51:22
SPEAKER_00: Instant Pots have their place.
51:25
SPEAKER_00: No, a slow cooker is like $30.
51:27
SPEAKER_00: I don't actually like Instant Pots that much.
51:29
SPEAKER_00: I don't either.
51:30
SPEAKER_00: I hate them.
51:31
SPEAKER_00: I got a super fancy Bells and Whistles Ninja Foodie Pro because I had
51:37
SPEAKER_00: to replace our old slow cooker.
51:39
SPEAKER_00: And that thing was like you can saute in the thing.
51:41
SPEAKER_00: The pot's made out of steel.
51:43
SPEAKER_00: You can put it in the oven.
51:44
SPEAKER_00: It's fantastic.
51:45
SPEAKER_00: I think I got it for like $150.
51:46
SPEAKER_00: It was on sale.
51:48
SPEAKER_00: Get yourself a slow cooker.
51:50
SPEAKER_00: If you don't,
51:52
SPEAKER_00: you have some kind of freezer in your house unless you live in a really small space.
51:56
SPEAKER_00: When you see things like ground beef, it freezes incredibly well.
52:01
SPEAKER_00: When you see things like ground beef go on sale that you think things you know have
52:05
SPEAKER_00: a lot of high price volatility, just buy extra and freeze it.
52:10
SPEAKER_00: Get some wax paper.
52:11
SPEAKER_00: Put it in the wax paper.
52:12
SPEAKER_00: It doesn't get freezer burned.
52:13
SPEAKER_00: Shove it in the freezer.
52:15
SPEAKER_00: And then You gotta have more ground beef later.
52:19
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
52:20
SPEAKER_00: Learn how to-
52:35
SPEAKER_01: Instacart is worth it because I can take the time that it would take going to the store.
52:40
SPEAKER_01: I'm going to do a big shoot later today.
52:43
SPEAKER_01: It takes me like an hour or two to get all of my shopping done.
52:46
SPEAKER_01: Well, that hour or two, I can be doing 10 other things that make me money.
52:50
SPEAKER_01: You have a very different use case.
52:52
SPEAKER_01: For my family, I would never use that.
52:55
SPEAKER_01: I just go to the local store that's much cheaper and easier anyway.
52:59
SPEAKER_00: Well, also,
53:00
SPEAKER_00: you're going to find if you – this isn't true for all stores,
53:03
SPEAKER_00: but – I assume there are sales that are often going on in stores that aren't
53:10
SPEAKER_00: on Instacart.
53:10
SPEAKER_00: I don't know if that's true.
53:11
SPEAKER_00: I've never used Instacart.
53:13
SPEAKER_00: I don't know if they keep registering all the sales.
53:16
SPEAKER_01: So they do.
53:17
SPEAKER_01: But what you'll notice is there are certain stores where it says no markup.
53:22
SPEAKER_01: If I use Instacart right now, like I have my page open to Costco right now.
53:27
SPEAKER_01: I love Costco rotisserie chickens.
53:29
SPEAKER_01: I went, for me, viral online.
53:32
SPEAKER_01: Just because I eat the rotisserie chicken skin in the parking lot at Costco
53:38
SPEAKER_01: while I'm there like a friggin' animal.
53:42
SPEAKER_01: That chicken is $4.99 if you go into the store.
53:45
SPEAKER_01: Best deal you can get, by the way.
53:47
SPEAKER_01: If you have a Costco nearby, you should be eating Costco.
53:51
SPEAKER_01: You should be eating Costco chicken.
53:54
SPEAKER_01: It's $4.99.
53:57
SPEAKER_01: You can get how many meals out of a rotisserie chicken, and theirs is the best.
54:01
SPEAKER_00: Incidentally,
54:02
SPEAKER_00: if you have a crock pot,
54:04
SPEAKER_00: Costco chickens are fantastic shortcuts for chicken soups and whatnot.
54:08
SPEAKER_00: Yes, yes.
54:10
SPEAKER_01: Really quick though, it's a dollar more if you get it on Instacart.
54:14
SPEAKER_01: That dollar is going to Instacart.
54:16
SPEAKER_01: So I'm looking right now, it says 10.99 on sale for a two pound bag of cherries.
54:23
SPEAKER_01: Well, I know that the price in store is like 6.99 because I just bought a bunch of cherries.
54:28
SPEAKER_01: They're just they have markups on all these things.
54:31
SPEAKER_01: There are some stores that will say no markups.
54:34
SPEAKER_01: And then I don't know if you have to pay an Instacart fee or something on it.
54:39
SPEAKER_01: But people don't even understand that you are paying more for basic items when you shop.
54:43
SPEAKER_01: Look at the prices.
54:59
SPEAKER_01: They have beef for $4 more.
55:02
SPEAKER_01: It's using the apps.
55:03
SPEAKER_01: To go back to what you're saying,
55:05
SPEAKER_01: there is inflation and there are rising prices and I wish that we would be looking
55:11
SPEAKER_01: at deregulating some of the issues causing prices to spike.
55:16
SPEAKER_01: And also you are correct in that people use apps that just build in so much cost
55:23
SPEAKER_01: and people don't know that they can physically walk in a store and pay $10 less.
55:29
SPEAKER_00: This isn't true for all stores,
55:31
SPEAKER_00: but most stores that I've been in,
55:34
SPEAKER_00: if you walk in and you look around,
55:36
SPEAKER_00: there will be clearance stuff that definitely is not showing up,
55:40
SPEAKER_01: like on Instacart.
55:42
SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah.
55:44
SPEAKER_00: And I think a lot of people either feel they are too proud to eat clearance meat
55:50
SPEAKER_00: or they don't trust it,
55:52
SPEAKER_00: which they're not legally allowed to sell you something that's going to kill you.
55:56
SPEAKER_01: No, you just need to cook it quickly because...
55:59
SPEAKER_00: Or again, freeze it.
56:03
SPEAKER_00: If you throw it in the freezer, it'll keep for months afterwards.
56:08
SPEAKER_00: It's two to three months.
56:10
SPEAKER_00: If you have a nice cold freezer, it's good.
56:14
SPEAKER_00: After those two to three months, it should be clear.
56:17
SPEAKER_00: Just saying, I took food safe certification.
56:21
SPEAKER_00: So did I.
56:22
SPEAKER_00: You do not get botulism.
56:26
SPEAKER_00: After those two to three months, you will get degradation and texture and flavor of the food.
56:32
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but that's an entirely fair thing.
56:36
SPEAKER_00: It is, but what I'm saying, if you're... Like, I have...
56:40
SPEAKER_00: If you get a,
56:42
SPEAKER_00: generally when that happens,
56:43
SPEAKER_00: you'll see freezer burn even if you put it in wax paper.
56:47
SPEAKER_00: It'll be obvious the texture of it.
56:49
SPEAKER_00: But if what you're doing, like I have done in the past, I've gotten a chuck roast.
56:53
SPEAKER_01: Buy a vacuum pack.
56:54
SPEAKER_01: It's so easy.
56:55
SPEAKER_00: I've gotten a chuck roast and pulled it out months later and we should use this.
57:01
SPEAKER_00: If you're putting it in a stew, it really isn't going to matter.
57:04
SPEAKER_01: Well, I am the queen of roasts,
57:07
SPEAKER_01: and it doesn't matter for most of the ways that you cook a roast anyways,
57:11
SPEAKER_01: because you cook it so long and with so much flavor.
57:14
SPEAKER_01: I have been making berea everything lately.
57:17
SPEAKER_01: Like, throw in a berea bomb and use your freezer burn chuck roast.
57:21
SPEAKER_01: It's totally fine.
57:22
SPEAKER_00: I didn't know how to cook, especially when I got married.
57:26
SPEAKER_00: This was a process where...
57:29
SPEAKER_00: This annoys you, but we subscribed to Cook's Illustrated.
57:38
SPEAKER_00: I understand you're great at Cook's Illustrated.
57:40
SPEAKER_00: What they used to and still do very well is...
57:44
SPEAKER_00: They walk you through their reasoning processes.
57:47
SPEAKER_00: Oh, if only other blogs did that, too.
57:51
SPEAKER_00: Yes, I know.
57:51
SPEAKER_00: I will say, you know that part in blogs, like Courtney's blog, where everyone hits Jonathan.
57:58
SPEAKER_00: Dumped a recipe to get past.
58:01
SPEAKER_00: If you read those,
58:02
SPEAKER_00: and if you read things,
58:03
SPEAKER_00: if you actually read the articles in a Cook's Illustrated,
58:06
SPEAKER_00: if you read an article in Bon Appetit,
58:09
SPEAKER_00: you will see the reasoning that went into why the recipe is the way it is,
58:14
SPEAKER_00: and you will...
58:15
SPEAKER_00: Learn from it.
58:16
SPEAKER_00: You will understand, well,
58:19
SPEAKER_00: a ground beef is going to have very different ways of keeping than a chuck roast.
58:27
SPEAKER_00: A chicken breast is going to have different flavor profiles and uses than a chicken thigh.
58:35
SPEAKER_00: You'll understand.
58:36
SPEAKER_00: So this was a process that I went through because I was like, I'm married.
58:41
SPEAKER_00: I need to learn how to cook.
58:42
SPEAKER_00: I'm going to have kids.
58:43
SPEAKER_00: And now I know how to cook.
58:45
SPEAKER_00: So that's... People...
58:49
SPEAKER_00: Self-sufficiency has somewhat become a thing that's weirdly only on the right,
58:54
SPEAKER_00: which is odd because the hippies used to be super into it.
58:57
SPEAKER_00: Crunchy cons.
59:00
SPEAKER_01: This is the crunchy cons moment.
59:02
SPEAKER_00: Wanting to do things yourself has become very right-coded now.
59:07
SPEAKER_00: But everyone should.
59:08
SPEAKER_00: This transcends politics entirely.
59:12
SPEAKER_00: I'm not a person who uses adult as a verb, so I don't do adulting.
59:20
SPEAKER_01: Oh, I totally use it as a verb.
59:22
SPEAKER_01: I'm the person that you're complaining about, as always.
59:27
SPEAKER_00: If you want to be able to operate in an adult sphere and be taken seriously in
59:32
SPEAKER_00: an adult sphere, you need to learn how to do adult stuff, such as cook for yourself.
59:39
SPEAKER_00: We should definitely come back to this.
59:41
SPEAKER_00: I think we're going along.
59:42
SPEAKER_00: We should come back to this later.
59:43
SPEAKER_00: I actually think this is a good thing for us to talk about.
59:46
SPEAKER_01: Why don't we set a better schedule of things so we don't get derailed on
59:52
SPEAKER_01: the economics talk and maybe in the next time we will talk specifically
59:56
SPEAKER_01: about like
59:58
SPEAKER_00: how to adult.
1:00:00
SPEAKER_00: Sure.
1:00:02
SPEAKER_00: I will not be using adult as a verb.
1:00:04
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
1:00:05
SPEAKER_01: I will because I am the terrible person that you like to rail against all the time.
1:00:11
SPEAKER_01: And I'm totally fine with that.
1:00:13
SPEAKER_01: I'm great with my position in law.
1:00:16
SPEAKER_00: You need to stop it.
1:00:18
SPEAKER_00: People actually do sometimes are like, why are you so mean to courtney?
1:00:21
SPEAKER_01: I'm not.
1:00:21
SPEAKER_01: We're great friends.
1:00:25
SPEAKER_01: You are my bestie.
1:00:28
SPEAKER_01: It's fine.
1:00:28
SPEAKER_01: We like to give it back and forth.
1:00:30
SPEAKER_01: Here's the thing.
1:00:31
SPEAKER_01: If people think you're actually mean to me,
1:00:33
SPEAKER_01: although you have made me cry multiple times,
1:00:37
SPEAKER_01: but that's just because I'm a crazy person.
1:00:41
SPEAKER_01: Like women at a certain age, I cry really easily, literally all the time.
1:00:50
SPEAKER_01: Also, like, we are besties.
1:00:52
SPEAKER_01: It's fine.
1:00:53
SPEAKER_01: Once people meet, like, my family and see me around, I grew up in a really Irish family.
1:01:00
SPEAKER_01: If I'm not being insulted, I'm like, what's wrong?
1:01:03
SPEAKER_01: Do you not like me?
1:01:04
SPEAKER_01: If people are really nice to me,
1:01:06
SPEAKER_01: it makes me super uneasy because I'm like,
1:01:09
SPEAKER_01: what is wrong with me that you're being fake or like being really nice?
1:01:14
SPEAKER_01: I just assume that you have to take the piss to, you know, actually show your love for someone.
1:01:23
SPEAKER_01: I'm the world's worst friend because I just raz people all the time.
1:01:28
SPEAKER_01: My poor daughter.
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SPEAKER_00: Philip Reichert is the world's worst friend.
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SPEAKER_01: No argument there.
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SPEAKER_01: No, I'm kidding.
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SPEAKER_01: No, we were up in South Dakota this whole week with my family for my grandma's memorial thing.
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SPEAKER_01: And I should say this really quick before we go.
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SPEAKER_01: I am...
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SPEAKER_01: The aunt, very proud aunt of two new Americans.
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SPEAKER_01: Yes, my family is back in the USA.
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SPEAKER_01: It has taken six years to get my sister-in-law's visa, her spousal visa.
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SPEAKER_01: They've been married for 12 years, have two kids.
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SPEAKER_01: She has come back and forth to America, but they are back for good.
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SPEAKER_00: This is reminding me of one thing from when we go, to do with inflation.
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SPEAKER_00: As part of the conversation I had,
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SPEAKER_00: Australia has had higher inflation the past year and a half than America.
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SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: Trump has nothing to do with that.
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SPEAKER_00: No American policy does.
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SPEAKER_01: American policy's Don't unless America enacts certain policies that Australia does,
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SPEAKER_01: which we are seeing in some states when you're looking at gas taxes and some
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SPEAKER_01: of their onerous corporate taxes and a lot of their net zero policy
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SPEAKER_01: and energy policy.
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SPEAKER_00: It's like living in California, but as a nation.
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SPEAKER_01: Or Colorado.
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SPEAKER_00: Or Colorado.
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SPEAKER_01: I think we're actually worse now, so yay!
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: On that note,
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SPEAKER_00: we'll return to a lot of these topics,
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SPEAKER_00: to the food topics later, because I think that was fruitful.
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SPEAKER_01: Yes, I think we should buckle down and do a good one.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I think this was a good one.
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SPEAKER_01: It was.
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SPEAKER_01: All right, bye-bye.