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Speaker 1: Kim's the Report.
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Speaker 2: Well, good evening and welcome to the Bolt Report. I'm
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Speaker 2: James Macpherson. Coming up tonight. The Prime Minister wants credit
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Speaker 2: for Donald Trump's Middle East peace plan. Can you believe
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Speaker 2: that the crime crisis worsens with latest dart as showing
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Speaker 2: more than half the crimes committed in Victoria last year
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Speaker 2: have gone unsolved.
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Speaker 3: Nick Cater will join me.
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Speaker 2: I'll show you the hilarious moment when a Biden administration
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Speaker 2: official who recommended defunding police to create safe spaces for
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Speaker 2: two spirit people is asked what a two spirit person is.
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Speaker 2: I can't wait to talk to Rowan Dean about that one.
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Speaker 2: And Kamala Harris is returning to Australia on a speaking
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Speaker 2: to her, you won't believe the topic they've given her.
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Speaker 3: I'll get into that with my panel.
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Speaker 2: Shortly, but first we're about to find out whether Anthony
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Speaker 2: Albanese's six day love in with Jiji Ping was genuine
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Speaker 2: or just a pantomime. There are reports today that China
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Speaker 2: has directed its steelmakers to stop buying iron ore from
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Speaker 2: BHP's minds in West Australia. Now, if that's true, and
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Speaker 2: BHP don't deny it. Then it puts at risk our
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Speaker 2: biggest export and with it, the entire federal budget, which,
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Speaker 2: let's face it, is based on the assumption that iron
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Speaker 2: ore revenue flows like a magic money tap installed by hogwarts. Now,
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Speaker 2: before we get into the details, you, like me, are
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Speaker 2: probably wondering how on earth could this have happened, especially
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Speaker 2: when just months ago our PM was telling us that
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Speaker 2: the Australia China bromance was the stuff of legends. Elbow
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Speaker 2: strutted into Beijing like a kid in a candy store
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Speaker 2: and came back with a panda as proof that friendship
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Speaker 2: and trade was secure.
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Speaker 4: This is about stabilizing the relationship was at a bad
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Speaker 4: point prior to our election in twenty twenty two.
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Speaker 2: The PM claimed he'd rescued our relationship with China after
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Speaker 2: Scott Morrison ruined it by well, by you know, asking
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Speaker 2: awkward questions about the origin of the COVID virus and
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Speaker 2: so on. China retaliated by suspending billions of dollars worth
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Speaker 2: of trade. Scomo, what a fool, But Albanezy He's no fool.
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Speaker 2: His government knows better than to ask awkward questions or
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Speaker 2: any questions at all, and so he rescued the relationship
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Speaker 2: between Australia and China, and he provided proof only weeks ago.
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Speaker 4: This guy, he is clearly yeah feeling the friendship between
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Speaker 4: Australia and China.
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Speaker 2: If only the panda was the one making trade decisions.
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Speaker 2: Come to think of it, if only the panda was
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Speaker 2: the one running Australia. The alben Easy government, still basking
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Speaker 2: in the glory of the PM's panda diplomacy, has been
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Speaker 2: completely blindsided by reports that China has suddenly banned the
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Speaker 2: purchase of BHP's iron ore. The Chinese apparently have been
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Speaker 2: demanding a lower price, and Bloomberg have reported that with
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Speaker 2: a lower price not forthcoming, the Chinese have simply walked
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Speaker 2: away from our product altogether. I am concerned about that,
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Speaker 2: and what we want to make sure is that markets
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Speaker 2: operate properly, and of course we have seen those issues
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Speaker 2: in the past. I want to see Australian iron ore
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Speaker 2: be able to be exported into China without hindrance. I
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Speaker 2: reckon the PM would be a lot more concerned than
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Speaker 2: he made out there. First and foremost, iron ore represents
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Speaker 2: a huge proportion of our export revenue, fully twenty one
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Speaker 2: percent for the year twenty twenty three twenty four, earning
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Speaker 2: US around one hundred and fifty billion dollars. That's money
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Speaker 2: the government counts on to bankroll the social welfare state
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Speaker 2: they're busy creating. China takes around eighty percent of our
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Speaker 2: iron ore. If the Chinese are no longer buying, well,
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Speaker 2: there's no other buyer to take up the slack, which
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Speaker 2: means we're going to have a lot of surplus. It's
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Speaker 2: the one surplus we don't need, so prices will fall
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Speaker 2: and revenue we've.
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Speaker 3: Been relying on will disappear.
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Speaker 2: Now, of course, we could sort this out and solve
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Speaker 2: the whole boycott thing by simply lowering the price of
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Speaker 2: our iron ore as the Chinese are demanding. The problem
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Speaker 2: with that is, for every ten dollars per ton decline
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Speaker 2: in the price, billions are stripped from federal tax and
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Speaker 2: royalty receipts. Suddenly we've no money to pay for all
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Speaker 2: those hospitals, schools, and roads we desperately need to cater
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Speaker 2: for all the extra people Elbow insists on bringing into
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Speaker 2: the country. Now, it's true we could borrow money to
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Speaker 2: fund infrastructure and services, but we're already doing that, and
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Speaker 2: without the revenue from iron ore exports, we'll be barely
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Speaker 2: able to pay the debt we currently have. So all
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Speaker 2: of a sudden, the economy looks like a high wire
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Speaker 2: act performed without a net over a canyon labeled communist
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Speaker 2: China while wearing clown shoes. Lucky we've got such a
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Speaker 2: good relationship with China, then, is the PM just a
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Speaker 2: couple of months ago.
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Speaker 4: One of the really significant meetings that we've had here
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Speaker 4: is on steel decarbonization represents by far our largest export
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Speaker 4: by value, and overwhelmingly it comes here to China.
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Speaker 2: What a shame that the PM was focused on making
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Speaker 2: sure our exports to China are climate friendly rather than
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Speaker 2: simply making sure of our exports full stop. Speaking of
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Speaker 2: climate change, I suppose we could retaliate by refusing to
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Speaker 2: buy their wind turbines and solar panels. Oh, one can
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Speaker 2: but dream. I thought a handsome boy had resolved all
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Speaker 2: of our trade woes. He was the PM again just
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Speaker 2: a few months ago.
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Speaker 4: Well, we certainly can move forward in the relationship. We've
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Speaker 4: seen a stabilization and that's been really important. Building trust
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Speaker 4: takes time, but it's also about relationships, and our relationship
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Speaker 4: with China is about trade.
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Speaker 2: How's that stabilization and trust going? Albanez He seems determined
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Speaker 2: to ignore the fact that China's not our friend, and
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Speaker 2: he also ignores the fact that they are developing iron
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Speaker 2: all minds in Africa, which means that soon they'll have
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Speaker 2: us completely over a barrel, and even the barrel will
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Speaker 2: be made in China. Maybe it's time Anthony Albanzi concentrated
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Speaker 2: on his job instead of swarming around the United Nations
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Speaker 2: recognizing a Palestinian state that doesn't exist.
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Speaker 3: But it's lucky.
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Speaker 2: We've got a modern and diversified economy, isn't it. Well, actually, no,
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Speaker 2: we don't. We have an economy that is hopelessly reliant
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Speaker 2: on one major business partner, and that business partner also
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Speaker 2: happens to be an authoritarian regime that's well known to
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Speaker 2: be the world's biggest trade bully. So we now find
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Speaker 2: ourselves in an awkward situation. We've treated the US administration
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Speaker 2: with the stain while sucking up to the Chinese Communist Party,
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Speaker 2: only to now find ourselves in no man's land. Our
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Speaker 2: enemies manipulate us and our friends, or they're not sure
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Speaker 2: they even like us. It's perfect, thankfully, though Anthony Albanesi
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Speaker 2: has such a good relationship with President Jijingping that all
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Speaker 2: he needs to do is pick up the phone and
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Speaker 2: remind him of their warm and constructive relationship.
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Speaker 3: Everything will be sorted. I'm absolutely sure.
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Speaker 2: And if you believe that, well you're a very handsome boy.
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Speaker 2: In the make believe world that progressives have created. You
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Speaker 2: know the world of world where men can get pregnant
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Speaker 2: and women can have penises. The only outrage these days
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Speaker 2: is reality and this was illustrated perfectly in California last
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Speaker 2: week when a concerned mum decided to demonstrate in real
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Speaker 2: time the absurdity of transgender locking room policies.
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Speaker 3: Bethbourne stripped down to.
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Speaker 2: A bikini while addressing progressives on the school board about
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Speaker 2: their decision to open female bathrooms to boys identifying as girls. Well,
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Speaker 2: members of the school board gasped, like Victorian schoolgirls, that
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Speaker 2: are naughty, Limerick.
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Speaker 5: This school district is saying that depending on a child's
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Speaker 5: transgender identity that they can pick which bathroom they want.
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Speaker 5: We have right now at this school district, we have
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Speaker 5: children self identifying into different bathrooms just.
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Speaker 6: Based off of the no you cannot, I have my
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Speaker 6: bathing suit on. Excuse me, this is allowed. We're going
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Speaker 6: to recess. I'm going to finish my comments. Are you
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Speaker 6: are violating my first Amendment?
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Speaker 7: Right?
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Speaker 6: I am putting on?
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Speaker 8: You are a district or.
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Speaker 2: The school board was scandalized by a mum in a
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Speaker 2: bikini while they themselves were insisting that if teenage girls
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Speaker 2: aren't happy to strip in front of boys, well then
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Speaker 2: they're bigots. There was a five minute recess while the
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Speaker 2: scandalized school board composed themselves, and then, because logic moves
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Speaker 2: slowly in progressive circles, the mum was invited to address
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Speaker 2: the school board again.
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Speaker 5: So, right now in our schools recesses the bathing suit top.
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Speaker 6: Here we are a bathing suit.
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Speaker 2: So the adults on the school board couldn't handle a
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Speaker 2: fifty year old woman stripping down to a bathing suit,
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Speaker 2: but expected teenage girls to be just fine with boys
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Speaker 2: undressing in their bathrooms. Now, for those sitting up the back,
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Speaker 2: Bethborn spelled it out.
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Speaker 7: The adults don't feel comfortable watching someone and I'm a
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Speaker 7: fifty year old woman change into an outfit. How can
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Speaker 7: they expect the girls to feel comfortable doing that? So
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Speaker 7: I just thought I made a really good point.
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Speaker 3: She did.
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Speaker 2: She made a great point, but instead of conceding that point,
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Speaker 2: the board rushed to condemn the display. Board member Cecilia
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Speaker 2: Escamelia Greenweld told local media, our superintendent is going to
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Speaker 2: be speaking with counsel to see what can be done,
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Speaker 2: because it's very inappropriate for anybody to be coming before
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Speaker 2: the board and behaving in such a manner Like I said,
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Speaker 2: it's a textbook example of the left getting morally outraged,
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Speaker 2: but only when their reality contradicts their fantasy. They applaud
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Speaker 2: absurdity but offended by reality because in the face of
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Speaker 2: logic and common sense, the woke left's ideas whither and die.
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Speaker 2: The school board insists it's inclusive for girls to change
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Speaker 2: in front of boys, but when a mum changes in
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Speaker 2: front of adults to demonstrate the same scenario, will suddenly
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Speaker 2: everyone's clutching pearls about inappropriate disrobing. Funny how their moral
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Speaker 2: compass wakes up when it suits them. Normal people understand
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Speaker 2: it's totally inappropriate for young girls to have to change
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Speaker 2: in front of young men. The mum's protest laid that bear.
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Speaker 2: The real scandal wasn't the bikini, It was the hypocrisy.
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Speaker 2: Progressives called gender fluidity progress. The rest of us call
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Speaker 2: it naked nonsense. Well, the lack of supply is making
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Speaker 2: it increasingly difficult for Australians to buy a home. So
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Speaker 2: today the government brought into effect their five percent deposit
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Speaker 2: scheme making it easier for first home buyers to get
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Speaker 2: into the market. By the Prime Minister's own admisis though
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Speaker 2: that will increase demand and put even more pressure on supply, oops.
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Speaker 4: It will have a minimal impact. There will be a
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Speaker 4: slide increase in prices, but already one hundred and eighty
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Speaker 4: five thousand Australians have benefited from this scheme with minimal
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Speaker 4: impact on prices. Treasury did modeling. They suggest a very
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Speaker 4: small increase.
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Speaker 2: Minimal impact on pricing is Elbow's way of saying prices
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Speaker 2: will go up because of his policy. Joining me now
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Speaker 2: is former New South Wales Treasurer at Michael Costa and
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Speaker 2: GXO Strategies Director Cameron Milner. Gentlemen, welcome to the program.
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Speaker 2: I'll start with you, Michael. Is it a good policy now?
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Speaker 8: It's a dumb policy. It's always been a dumb policy.
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Speaker 9: It's a policy that I resisted when I was treasuring
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Speaker 9: New South Wales because the impact flows straight into prices.
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Speaker 8: Look, the only way they're going to get house prices down,
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Speaker 8: we know what it is.
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Speaker 9: They need to limit immigration and that requires some vision.
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Speaker 9: This is a government that is essentially visionless, and you know,
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Speaker 9: it's a visionalist plot in government and that's what you're
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Speaker 9: seeing in terms of the policy outcomes.
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Speaker 8: That's why they're coming up with this nonsense. The other
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Speaker 8: thing they need to do.
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Speaker 9: Is get supply right. They can't get supply right because
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Speaker 9: of all the regulations and they're adding more and more regulations,
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Speaker 9: but particularly with this net zero which is going to
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Speaker 9: impact on house costs. In addition, productivity has got to
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Speaker 9: be improved and they can't improve that productivity. Look, we've
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Speaker 9: got unfortunately, we've got a government that taxes, spends, wastes
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Speaker 9: and tries to spin its way out of making real
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Speaker 9: hard policy decisions. And you know the market will suffer
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Speaker 9: and there will be no relief for first home buyers.
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Speaker 2: Well Kevin, of course, the Prime Minister and his Housing
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Speaker 2: Minister talked about the fact that they're doing a lot
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Speaker 2: of things to increase the supply of housing, but the
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Speaker 2: RBA have said none of that will really have any
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Speaker 2: effect for at least another two years.
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Speaker 3: So it really doesn't make sense, by the Prime.
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Speaker 2: Minister's own admission, to be bumping up supply even further
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Speaker 2: though minimally, when supply is already high and won't be
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Speaker 2: decreasing for at least two years despite the government's best efforts.
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Speaker 10: Well, that's right, James, I agree with Michael too. I mean,
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Speaker 10: you know, when you add a subsity on top the
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Speaker 10: price as goes up. That's the problem in this housing market.
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Speaker 10: The reality is we don't have enough supply. We don't
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Speaker 10: have enough new houses being built in new apartments, new houses,
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Speaker 10: in new dwellings for people. That's the that's the crime here.
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Speaker 10: The Albani's government keeps talking about the one point two
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Speaker 10: million houses but can't even point to where the first
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Speaker 10: one in the first term was actually.
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Speaker 8: Opened or built.
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Speaker 3: James, that's the problem.
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Speaker 10: We need more supply. We need, to Michael's point, to
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Speaker 10: put a tap down on migration. We had a million
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Speaker 10: people over three years and we wonder why we've got
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Speaker 10: a housing crisis in this country.
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Speaker 2: And of course we've got a shortage of trades as well. Michael,
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Speaker 2: and a lot of the tradees that we do have
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Speaker 2: are busy on renewable projects when what we desperately need
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Speaker 2: is not more wind turbines or solar farms.
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Speaker 9: We need homes well, absolutely, but you also need policy.
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Speaker 9: You need a government that has people that have vision.
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Speaker 9: Look give it a government that's got one of the
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Speaker 9: largest majorities in living memory. It's got a dysfunctional opposition,
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Speaker 9: but it hasn't got a minister in the whole government
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Speaker 9: that has any real vision or any big ideas about
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Speaker 9: approving the economy. And that's the fundamental problem. The first
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Speaker 9: thing I do, apart from the immigration, is you need
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Speaker 9: to reform the system that's driving that immigration. And unfortunately, education,
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Speaker 9: tertiary education is one of those. Where's all the reforms
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Speaker 9: in tertiary education to make sure that we are getting
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Speaker 9: the skills we need and we're not feeding into a
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Speaker 9: Ponzi scheme in terms of the education dollars, no vision,
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Speaker 9: spin that's all we're getting.
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Speaker 3: Michael.
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Speaker 2: You almost make it sound like graduates in gender studies
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Speaker 2: are not going to help the nation move forward and
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Speaker 2: prosper I didn't know that.
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Speaker 9: Get a labor party, Well, that is definitely the case,
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Speaker 9: no doubt about it.
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Speaker 2: It Donald Trump has given Hamas three or four days
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Speaker 2: to accept his guards a peace plan. He says, Hamas
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Speaker 2: need to hurry up and agree, and if they don't,
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Speaker 2: you let Israel do whatever they need to do to
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Speaker 2: defeat the terrorist group once and for all, his Donald Trump.
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Speaker 11: All of the Arab countries are signed up, the Muslim
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Speaker 11: countries are all signed up. Israel's all signed up, which
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Speaker 11: is waiting for Amas and Hamas is either going to
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Speaker 11: be doing it or not. And if it's not, it's
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Speaker 11: going to be a very sad end.
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Speaker 6: If they rejective deal. You said, you real, you're backing
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Speaker 6: to do whatever they need to do.
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Speaker 12: What do you indeed?
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Speaker 4: That'll let them go and do what they have to do.
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Speaker 13: They can do it pretty, isn't they.
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Speaker 11: I would let them go and do what they have
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Speaker 11: to do.
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Speaker 3: So that's Donald Trump.
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Speaker 2: Meanwhile, Hamas has responded saying they will likely reject Trump's proposal.
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Speaker 2: So Michael Hamas claims the peace plan is unjust.
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Speaker 3: You have to love a terror.
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Speaker 2: Organization that takes babies hostage, complaining about injustice.
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Speaker 8: Oh, that's true, but it's a death cult.
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Speaker 9: It's prepared to sacrifice every single Palestinian in Gaza to
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Speaker 9: achieve its death cult aims.
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Speaker 8: That's unfortunately the situation.
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Speaker 9: I just also make the point, doesn't this make the
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Speaker 9: Albanese government look stupid, the Starmer government, the Khne government
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Speaker 9: and Macron. Here is a peace proposal that is Trump's
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Speaker 9: police proposal, not the UN's peace proposal, and we are
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Speaker 9: not anywhere near it because we're irrelevant to any solution.
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Speaker 3: You know.
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Speaker 9: The other thing I'd like to see, James, is the
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Speaker 9: march on Saturday across the bridge calling on Hamas to
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Speaker 9: accept the peaceposal.
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Speaker 8: I doubt we're going to get that march owe.
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Speaker 2: I talked about that last night, and I'm looking forward
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Speaker 2: to seeing all the protesters out cheering for Donald Trump's
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Speaker 2: peace plan.
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Speaker 3: You and I both know it's going to happen.
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Speaker 2: Cameron, speaking of staying on that theme, I noticed that yesterday,
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Speaker 2: while Trump was putting out the peace plan to Hamas
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Speaker 2: that would end the fighting, organizers of Greta Tunberg's Humanity
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Speaker 2: and Flotilla they were complaining about the peace plan, saying
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Speaker 2: it was unfair.
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Speaker 3: Can you believe these guys?
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Speaker 7: Well?
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Speaker 10: I can, because Greth Thumberg's hypocrisy writen large Shames I mean,
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Speaker 10: that's that whole life, isn't it.
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Speaker 3: This is the problem.
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Speaker 10: I mean in the UN we had lots of merely
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Speaker 10: mouth words saying Hamas is suddenly going to drop their
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Speaker 10: arms and release the hostages because mccron asked them to.
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Speaker 1: For goodness sake.
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Speaker 10: I mean, you know, now we have a twenty point
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Speaker 10: piece plan from from the President of the United States.
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Speaker 10: Hamas has seventy two hours to say yes or no.
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Speaker 10: Otherwise everyone in the world, everyone in the world, the
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Speaker 10: Muslim brotherhood, nations, everyone has to say Hamas has to
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Speaker 10: go and we have to crush them once over all.
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Speaker 10: And if that takes Israeli might want to rid Gaza
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Speaker 10: of the Hamas, so be it. I hope there's actually
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Speaker 10: an outbreak of peace, but it won't be because of Albanie.
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Speaker 10: It'll because of Donald Trump.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, well said alright, I want to get your
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Speaker 2: thoughts on the way the government has handled Optis, whose
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Speaker 2: triple zero outdigers have been linked to a number of deaths.
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Speaker 2: The Greens say Optor should have their license revoked. It's
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Speaker 2: fairly typical of the Greens. They just go straight to
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Speaker 2: an extreme. The government has instead promised to introduce a
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Speaker 2: Triple zero watchdog is the PM.
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Speaker 4: Leve appointed Karni yesterday afternoon. That's a good thing and
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Speaker 4: we welcome that. But this should never have occurred. Certainly
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Speaker 4: it is in Optus's interest to be transparent about that.
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Speaker 4: The government's doing our own through the Independent Regulator is
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Speaker 4: doing its own review as well.
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Speaker 3: Michael.
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Speaker 2: It's obviously a very serious situation what's transpired. As I said,
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Speaker 2: the outthae has been linked to a number of deaths.
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Speaker 2: Has the government been too soft on Optis to this point?
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Speaker 3: Oh?
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Speaker 9: Absolutely, offer that was a pathetic response. Look, the government,
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Speaker 9: we don't need inquiries. We need optors to be directed
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Speaker 9: to put a backup system in place, and if that
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Speaker 9: takes legislation or direction it needs to be done.
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Speaker 3: You can't.
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Speaker 9: And by the way, it shouldn't be just optors, it
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Speaker 9: should be all of the providers of these services to
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Speaker 9: Australian citizens.
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Speaker 8: So there needs to be a backup service.
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Speaker 9: So if the system goes down at defaults, immediately to
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Speaker 9: another system. Look, we're duplicating the electricity system for crying
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Speaker 9: out loud, surely we can put a duplicate system in
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Speaker 9: to preserve lives and ensure triple zero services.
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Speaker 8: Are available.
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Speaker 2: Are You're making far too much sense tonight, Michael Costa Cameron.
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Speaker 2: Of course, the real beneficiary out of all of this
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Speaker 2: will likely be none of us, but it will be Telstra,
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Speaker 2: who I note have increased their prices over the past
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Speaker 2: few months as people worry more about reliability than price.
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Speaker 10: Well, that's right, but I mean you're coming back to
19:31
Speaker 10: your point about TRIPLEO. It's an essential service and the
19:33
Speaker 10: CEO of Options should have walked the plank, all been
19:36
Speaker 10: taken out the back. I mean, it's appalling it can
19:38
Speaker 10: fail so badly and have such human tragedy while your
19:41
Speaker 10: tripelo line is not working. But yes, unfortunately we do
19:44
Speaker 10: need competition in the marketplace, and we've got an alban
19:47
Speaker 10: estyle competition very weak, very weak, from Optus against a
19:51
Speaker 10: very large monolith like Telstro.
19:53
Speaker 2: As I said earlier, the PM's concerned by reports that
19:56
Speaker 2: China has banned iron ore from bhpn WA a pricing dispute. Michael,
20:02
Speaker 2: If this is true, actually, even if it's not true,
20:05
Speaker 2: the whole situation does serve to demonstrate the precarious position
20:09
Speaker 2: we find ourselves in in relation to China.
20:13
Speaker 3: Well.
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Speaker 9: Absolutely, and I've said on many occasions China trades with
20:16
Speaker 9: us because it's in its economic and strategic interest. It
20:19
Speaker 9: doesn't trade with us because we've got a handsome boy
20:23
Speaker 9: sitting in a parliament there. The reality is China will
20:26
Speaker 9: do what's in its interest, and what's in its interest
20:28
Speaker 9: is fundamentally opposed to our interest because we don't have
20:31
Speaker 9: the same values. But our economy is fragile, and the
20:34
Speaker 9: reason it's fragile is because we've put all our eggs
20:37
Speaker 9: into this basket and any chance of building a sensible
20:41
Speaker 9: alternative economic structure is being destroyed by this government's policy.
20:45
Speaker 9: You know, we're taking our competitive advantage on lower energy
20:49
Speaker 9: and destroying it through net zero. We've reregulated the labor
20:53
Speaker 9: market and destroyed any advantage we had in terms of
20:56
Speaker 9: capital formation and capital productivity.
21:00
Speaker 8: It is the government's fault.
21:01
Speaker 9: And as I said right at the beginning, this government's
21:04
Speaker 9: got the largest majority in living memory. But it's a
21:06
Speaker 9: bunch of visionless plotters that have no idea what they're doing.
21:10
Speaker 9: They're any good at peddling slogans.
21:14
Speaker 2: Now, Cameron, I don't want to spread conspiracy theories, but
21:17
Speaker 2: indulge me for a moment.
21:18
Speaker 3: It's interesting. This comes from China.
21:21
Speaker 2: Just weeks before Albanez he meets with Donald Trump to
21:23
Speaker 2: discuss defense in the Pacific.
21:25
Speaker 3: Am I being too conspiratorial?
21:27
Speaker 8: Well, no you're not.
21:28
Speaker 10: And it came twenty four hours after Richard Mirles was
21:30
Speaker 10: gloating about August being a done deal. So this is payback,
21:33
Speaker 10: This is payback from Beijing.
21:34
Speaker 3: And you know this.
21:35
Speaker 10: Shouldn't be the Prime Minister week. Alba shouldn't been concerned
21:37
Speaker 10: about it. He should be outraged, outraged that our major
21:40
Speaker 10: export is being held to ransom by Beijing as payback,
21:44
Speaker 10: as payback for US daring to self defend ourselves with
21:47
Speaker 10: our allies in the Pacific. No, I mean, if Alba
21:49
Speaker 10: had this special relationship he picked up the Huaiwei batphone
21:53
Speaker 10: to pojiji Ping and been outraged that our iron ore
21:56
Speaker 10: was being held to ransom by the Chinese.
21:58
Speaker 2: Well, I guess at least he's got Jijinping's number. He
22:01
Speaker 2: doesn't have Donald Trump's, certainly. Michael Costa Cameron Milner, always
22:04
Speaker 2: delight to talk to you both.
22:05
Speaker 3: Thanks so much for coming on the program.
22:08
Speaker 2: Well we're going to go to a break, but coming up,
22:10
Speaker 2: wokeness will not be tolerated under Trump in the US military.
22:13
Speaker 2: About time plus have we gone from Trump derangement syndrome
22:17
Speaker 2: to Farage derangement syndrome. Britain's PM is now taking digs
22:21
Speaker 2: at the reform leader.
22:22
Speaker 3: That's next and more with Rowan d Now.
22:28
Speaker 2: I have always suspected that politicians and bureaucrats flogging wokee
22:32
Speaker 2: nonsense don't actually believe any of it. But the truth
22:36
Speaker 2: is far more depressing. They don't even understand it. Case
22:39
Speaker 2: in point a US Senate hearing into gun violence, Gregory Jackson,
22:44
Speaker 2: Joe Biden's former deputy director of gun violence Prevention, was
22:49
Speaker 2: asked why his office produced a report recommending that money
22:52
Speaker 2: be taken away from police and redirected to, wait for it,
22:56
Speaker 2: safe spaces for two spirit people. Now, if you don't
22:59
Speaker 2: know what a two spirit person is, guess what neither is?
23:02
Speaker 2: Gregory Jackson, Take a look.
23:05
Speaker 14: You are the witness called by the Democrats on this committee,
23:08
Speaker 14: so I assume you reflect their views. Well, you don't
23:10
Speaker 14: want to fund the police, you want to fund safe
23:12
Speaker 14: spaces for two spirit individuals. What is a two spirit person?
23:16
Speaker 14: I feel like I'm looking at a two faced individual
23:18
Speaker 14: because you talk about retort. No, sorry, you're looking at
23:20
Speaker 14: somebody who's reading you your own words. I like to
23:23
Speaker 14: hear an answer. Here's the answer. The answer is, you
23:26
Speaker 14: don't have any solutions. You want to invest in gobbledegoog
23:29
Speaker 14: and take away money from police officers who actually keep
23:31
Speaker 14: our community safe. And when you're called on the record,
23:33
Speaker 14: you deny it. It's all there as black and white,
23:36
Speaker 14: and your record is there, WI and it's a joining me.
23:39
Speaker 2: Now is Sky News host Rowan? Dean Rowan, do you
23:43
Speaker 2: know what a two spirit person is?
23:45
Speaker 1: I just love that exchange between them.
23:47
Speaker 13: But James, this is one of those moments where I
23:50
Speaker 13: deeply regret having dropped out of university and not having
23:54
Speaker 13: completed my aunt's degree, because I probably would have been
23:57
Speaker 13: able to do gender fluidity and queer study is majoring
24:01
Speaker 13: in such things as a non binary polyamory two spirits,
24:07
Speaker 13: And I could have answered your question full of the
24:09
Speaker 13: knowledge that such intellectuals and academics have at their fingertips.
24:14
Speaker 13: But in case you just so the audience are absolutely
24:18
Speaker 13: crystal clear because we have to be very specific in
24:21
Speaker 13: our definitions here.
24:22
Speaker 1: Two spirit is.
24:23
Speaker 13: Not the same as pan gender or polygender, or non
24:28
Speaker 13: binary or intersex, or indeed gay or lesbian. Now what
24:34
Speaker 13: defines a two spirit person that separates them from every
24:38
Speaker 13: other rainbow character, and it is this, James. They are
24:44
Speaker 13: basically a gay Indian and by that I mean a
24:47
Speaker 13: First Nations person, because a two spirit is a term
24:50
Speaker 13: specifically designed They invented it in nineteen ninety a gay
24:56
Speaker 13: pride march or conference or something to have a special
25:00
Speaker 13: category for First Nations people. Because what the left and
25:03
Speaker 13: the woke left loved nothing more than anything is combining supposed.
25:09
Speaker 1: Victims of oppression.
25:10
Speaker 13: Because if you've got, if you're a woman, you're already
25:13
Speaker 13: oppressed if you're a gay woman, and that's a double
25:16
Speaker 13: oppression a lesbian. If you're then a two spirit woman,
25:21
Speaker 13: you're your First Nations and you're a woman and you're gay.
25:24
Speaker 13: You've got you've got the lot, You've got that you've
25:26
Speaker 13: won the jackpot, and these terms, you know, if they
25:31
Speaker 13: weren't so funny, the problem is that, as we found
25:34
Speaker 13: out from that clip, they are used to finance all
25:37
Speaker 13: sorts of dubious programs, so taxpayers dollars, as Doge discovered,
25:41
Speaker 13: with funneling all sorts of money to all these organizations,
25:45
Speaker 13: probably all around the world, I imagine there are some
25:47
Speaker 13: two Spirit organizations in Australia specifically targeting money towards First
25:54
Speaker 13: Nations people who identify as gay or lesbian but would
25:57
Speaker 13: prefer to be known as two spirits. And the problem here, James,
26:01
Speaker 13: is it is basically a grift, so it's an ability.
26:05
Speaker 13: And when we saw it there and that clip there,
26:08
Speaker 13: they were channeling money to a specific group because they
26:11
Speaker 13: were two Spirits and it allows them to spend more
26:14
Speaker 13: money than they would otherwise spend. And I guarantee that
26:16
Speaker 13: that money is being spent here in Australia similarly.
26:19
Speaker 1: And people should be looking out for it.
26:21
Speaker 13: But the joke was, once you try and have all
26:23
Speaker 13: these terminologies, James, it was it was justin Trudeau himself
26:27
Speaker 13: who ran into all sorts of trouble when the two
26:30
Speaker 13: spirit thing was added to the LGB two plus et cetera,
26:33
Speaker 13: et cetera. There's a very very funny clip of him
26:36
Speaker 13: tripping all over himself because he could remember the two
26:38
Speaker 13: but he couldn't remember what else went with it, and
26:41
Speaker 13: he got into all sorts of trouble LB plus sorry
26:45
Speaker 13: two plus my you know, and he get all of us.
26:48
Speaker 2: I remember that, well, Rowan, thanks for explaining I understand now,
26:52
Speaker 2: but my head hurts. Thank the isolation is having none
26:56
Speaker 2: of that exactly. The Trump administrations have none of this nonsense.
27:01
Speaker 2: US President Donald Trump and his Secretary of War Pete
27:04
Speaker 2: Hegseth met with the US military's top brass yesterday and
27:07
Speaker 2: told them, in no uncertain terms, wokeness would not be tolerated.
27:11
Speaker 3: Have a listen.
27:12
Speaker 15: For too long, we've promoted too many uniform leaders for
27:15
Speaker 15: the wrong reasons, based on their race, based on gender quotas,
27:21
Speaker 15: based on historics. So called first foolish and reckless political leaders.
27:25
Speaker 16: Set the wrong compass heading and we lost our way.
27:31
Speaker 16: We became the Walk Department, but not anymore.
27:37
Speaker 3: And then Donald Trump had a very simple message.
27:40
Speaker 11: We're bringing back a focus on fitness, ability, character Rowan.
27:46
Speaker 2: It just shows you how far the West has fallen
27:48
Speaker 2: when generals need to be told that fitness rather than
27:52
Speaker 2: I don't know, sexual orientation is a priority for the military.
27:57
Speaker 13: Again, James, you would just have to ask how many
27:59
Speaker 13: people up done troon in Canberra where Russell House or
28:03
Speaker 13: Russell whatever it's called, the headquarters of the Australian Army
28:08
Speaker 13: are sitting there thinking, because I bet we've got more
28:10
Speaker 13: than our fair share of wokeness there. Donald Trump has
28:13
Speaker 13: renamed the Department of Defense the Department of War, but
28:15
Speaker 13: it was actually, as you said, the Department of woke,
28:18
Speaker 13: and it's now the Department of War. And the idea,
28:21
Speaker 13: how on earth this woke garbage ever crept in? It
28:25
Speaker 13: just shows you how dangerous it has been. We saw
28:30
Speaker 13: under Joe Biden, we saw all sorts of kind of diversity,
28:35
Speaker 13: equity inclusion staff, transgender soldiers, and ads that specifically targeted
28:42
Speaker 13: gay and lesbian recruits, all of which is fine, but
28:46
Speaker 13: it's irrelevant to the job of making an army.
28:49
Speaker 1: There is only one job you make an.
28:50
Speaker 13: Army for, and that is, as Donald Trump has pointed out,
28:53
Speaker 13: to go to war.
28:54
Speaker 1: That's why you make an army.
28:56
Speaker 13: That's not to say there aren't some brilliant transgender, or gay,
28:59
Speaker 13: or lesbian or even two spirited soldiers out there, James.
29:03
Speaker 13: But the point is when that's your focus, obviously you
29:08
Speaker 13: are not focusing on the key attribute that a soldier
29:12
Speaker 13: must have, and that's their ability and preparedness, mental fitness
29:17
Speaker 13: and preparedness to lay down their life for their country.
29:20
Speaker 13: And that is the key thing that the Trump administration
29:23
Speaker 13: are determined to bring back into the American military. Are
29:27
Speaker 13: the same discussions taking place in Duntrue? And that's all
29:30
Speaker 13: i'd ask, And I bet they're not.
29:32
Speaker 3: So it's a very good question.
29:35
Speaker 2: We don't have much time left before we get to
29:36
Speaker 2: a break, but I do want to get your thoughts
29:38
Speaker 2: on Kirstarmer's speech at the UK Later Conference was light
29:42
Speaker 2: on policy but big on demonizing his main opponent, Reform
29:45
Speaker 2: Party leader Nigel Farage.
29:47
Speaker 17: Take a look, when was the last time that you
29:50
Speaker 17: heard Nigel Farrage say anything positive about Britain's future. He can't.
29:57
Speaker 17: He doesn't like Britain, doesn't believe in Britain, wants you
30:01
Speaker 17: to doubt it just as much as he does. So
30:04
Speaker 17: he resorts to grievance. They all do. They want to
30:09
Speaker 17: turn this country, this proud, self reliant country, into a
30:13
Speaker 17: competition of victims, saying to you, to working people, don't
30:18
Speaker 17: trust in each other. You can't fix this. This is
30:22
Speaker 17: not a great country.
30:24
Speaker 2: Basically, my political opponent hates you, but it got worse. He's
30:28
Speaker 2: the Deputy Prime Minister.
30:31
Speaker 3: Is Nigel farwas a racist?
30:33
Speaker 18: I answered your question. I'm not going to play the man.
30:36
Speaker 18: I'm playing the ball as our leader did. I will
30:38
Speaker 18: leave it for the public to come to their own
30:40
Speaker 18: judgments about someone who once flirted with hit that youth
30:44
Speaker 18: ready is younger?
30:47
Speaker 2: Rowan just quickly aside from being untrue, this demonizing of
30:50
Speaker 2: one's political opponents, we've seen it in the US.
30:53
Speaker 3: It's incredibly dangerous.
30:55
Speaker 13: Well it is, and they should have learned from Hillary Clinton.
30:58
Speaker 13: At the moment you start telling your opponent's supporters that
31:01
Speaker 13: they're deplorables, a basket of deplorables.
31:03
Speaker 1: Joe Biden made the same mistake.
31:05
Speaker 13: That's basically a guarantee that you're not going to win
31:07
Speaker 13: the next election because the public aren't that stupid.
31:09
Speaker 1: They won't put up with it. And shame on Kirs
31:11
Speaker 1: Starmer seriously and the other bloke David Lammy.
31:14
Speaker 13: They really Nigel Fransch only needs to say one positive
31:18
Speaker 13: thing James, and that's the fact that he's going to
31:20
Speaker 13: be the next Prime Minister of Great Britain.
31:24
Speaker 2: Indeed, Rowndine, always a delight to talk to you. Thanks
31:26
Speaker 2: so much for coming on the program tonight. Well still
31:30
Speaker 2: to come. Jim Chalmers confronted at a press conference by
31:33
Speaker 2: a terrified woman over crime in her Street that moment
31:37
Speaker 2: with Nick Kta coming up next. Well, it's not uncommon
31:43
Speaker 2: for members of the public to gate crash media conferences
31:45
Speaker 2: in order to make a point to a politician, and
31:48
Speaker 2: oftentimes the people come across as craziest. But I think
31:51
Speaker 2: the woman who interrupted an interview with Jim Chalmers today
31:54
Speaker 2: would get a lot of sympathy from most of us.
31:57
Speaker 2: Like so many, she claims to be a victim of
31:59
Speaker 2: crime who can't seem to get any help, let alone justice.
32:03
Speaker 12: I have tried to get some sort of resolve for
32:08
Speaker 12: the situation that I'm living under. I have contacted housing management,
32:15
Speaker 12: ignored thirty two emails.
32:17
Speaker 8: I want something addressed.
32:19
Speaker 19: Okay, shaky because I'm so really scared if my house
32:25
Speaker 19: burns down, I cannot escape, I can't get out, I
32:29
Speaker 19: can't go anywhere.
32:31
Speaker 2: Joining me now is Nick Cator, Senior fellow at Menzi's
32:34
Speaker 2: Research Center. Nick, thanks for coming on the program. I
32:37
Speaker 2: want to get into specifics in a moment, but just generally,
32:41
Speaker 2: there seems to be a breakdown in law and order
32:43
Speaker 2: right across the country.
32:44
Speaker 3: So here's the big question. Is it political or is
32:47
Speaker 3: it cultural?
32:50
Speaker 20: I think cultural, with a little bit of politics playing
32:53
Speaker 20: into that would be my analysis. I mean, I have
32:56
Speaker 20: enormous respect for anybody in uniform who goes out patrol streets,
33:01
Speaker 20: goes into dangerous situations, don't know what they're coming up against.
33:05
Speaker 20: And of course we had that in Victoria recently were
33:07
Speaker 20: the two police officers turned up at a property and
33:10
Speaker 20: got shot. So look, it is not the individual police
33:14
Speaker 20: force members, who are as strong and dedicated as ever.
33:19
Speaker 20: It's everything the back office does to hamstring them. All
33:23
Speaker 20: the paperwork they put on them, all the regulations they
33:25
Speaker 20: have to obey, all the boxes they have to tick,
33:28
Speaker 20: and that's what's increased. I mean Victoria Police. I looked
33:31
Speaker 20: at this preparation for coming on. I can tell you
33:34
Speaker 20: that in the case of Victoria Police, the annual report
33:38
Speaker 20: for twenty twenty three twenty four some.
33:40
Speaker 3: Good news in there.
33:41
Speaker 20: They've reduced their energy consumption, they reduced their carbon footprint,
33:45
Speaker 20: they've reduced them out of water they use, They've reduced
33:48
Speaker 20: the gender imbalance. But unfortunately, as I'm sure we're going
33:51
Speaker 20: to discuss later, they've also reduced their ability to solve crime.
33:55
Speaker 20: Is there a relationship between the two, I think there is, James,
33:58
Speaker 20: I just think we've got police horses being led on
34:02
Speaker 20: by governments just doing all the wrong things, things that
34:05
Speaker 20: actually make it harder for police on the ground, not easier.
34:11
Speaker 2: The woman we saw in that clip, she was in
34:13
Speaker 2: Queensland and clearly traumatized. But I guess things could be
34:16
Speaker 2: worse for her. She could live in Victoria where the
34:19
Speaker 2: latest Crime Statistics Agency data says half of all crimes
34:23
Speaker 2: in the past twelve months have gone unsolved. So that's
34:27
Speaker 2: three hundred thousand crimes in one year when no one
34:31
Speaker 2: was arrested.
34:31
Speaker 11: Nick.
34:33
Speaker 20: Yeah, this is just an appalling state of affairs. I
34:36
Speaker 20: mean what it means if you're if you're a career
34:39
Speaker 20: criminal or even just an amateur criminal, that immediately gives
34:43
Speaker 20: you a one in two chance that you're going to
34:46
Speaker 20: get away with it. But then you add to that,
34:48
Speaker 20: of course, the police, even if they manage to get
34:50
Speaker 20: you into the police station and they're pressed and they
34:53
Speaker 20: have so much other work to do, we'll they actually
34:55
Speaker 20: be able to prepare a brief that will get you,
34:58
Speaker 20: get you convicted in court, and then you're going to
35:01
Speaker 20: play a lottery with the judiciary, aren't you. As we
35:04
Speaker 20: found in that reason appalling case of the pedophile father
35:08
Speaker 20: who got a lighter sentence because he'd been transitioning to
35:13
Speaker 20: a woman. I mean, you put all those things together,
35:16
Speaker 20: and you think if you were in the in the
35:17
Speaker 20: crime game, you'd be thinking, yeah, yeah, there's a pretty
35:20
Speaker 20: good time to be in the crime game. Your chances
35:22
Speaker 20: are getting caught are being brought down further and further,
35:26
Speaker 20: and the chances that you're going to get a serious
35:29
Speaker 20: sentence and not just a slap on the wrist are increasing.
35:32
Speaker 20: The slap on the wrist is increasing. So you know,
35:36
Speaker 20: why not we're encouraging crime? And I said on the
35:40
Speaker 20: Credline Show earlier in the week, there is we know
35:43
Speaker 20: what the answer to this is, James, don't we We
35:45
Speaker 20: know what the answer it's. It's tough at policing. It's
35:48
Speaker 20: putting criminals behind bars, because once they're behind bars, you
35:52
Speaker 20: immediately reduce the likelihood of crime occurring on our streets.
35:56
Speaker 20: It's not rocket science. We've been discovering the last sixty
36:00
Speaker 20: years or so that soft, soft approach to crime doesn't work.
36:06
Speaker 20: You just have to have criminals have to know there's
36:10
Speaker 20: going to be a consequence. Basically, whatever their gender or
36:13
Speaker 20: whatever their transitioning position is, whatever their ethnic background, they
36:18
Speaker 20: have to know that the law is the law and
36:20
Speaker 20: there will be a consequence.
36:23
Speaker 2: We'll take a look at this footage from Melbourne CBD.
36:26
Speaker 3: This is just the other day.
36:27
Speaker 2: You've got a naked man walking around the top end
36:30
Speaker 2: of Burke Street and then he's confronted by a knife
36:33
Speaker 2: wielding man who at least is wearing clothes.
36:37
Speaker 3: Incidents like that have led.
36:39
Speaker 2: Small businesses to plead for more security to protect staff
36:43
Speaker 2: and customers from anti social behavior. You can see on
36:47
Speaker 2: your screen there this naked guy wandering around the top
36:50
Speaker 2: of Burke Street.
36:51
Speaker 3: I mean, as if that's.
36:52
Speaker 2: Not bad enough, he goes around the corner and then
36:55
Speaker 2: another guy's got a knife. He pulls it out and
36:57
Speaker 2: threatens the guy. And I mean, nick, this sort of
37:02
Speaker 2: behavior in Victoria is actually quite common. Last time I
37:05
Speaker 2: was in Melbourne, I was actually shocked at the number
37:08
Speaker 2: of what should I call it unsavory types around the
37:12
Speaker 2: CBD in the middle of the day, behaving in all
37:14
Speaker 2: manner of strange ways.
37:18
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I.
37:18
Speaker 20: Think that's this sort of woke tendency to tolerate these people.
37:23
Speaker 20: I mean, somebody's walking You.
37:25
Speaker 1: Make a good point there.
37:26
Speaker 20: If you're a shopper in that vicinity. You've just gone
37:29
Speaker 20: out to do a bit of shopping in your lunchtime break.
37:33
Speaker 20: To see this naked guy, first of all, is confronting,
37:37
Speaker 20: not just because of his nakedness, because you don't know
37:39
Speaker 20: what he's going to do next. He's obviously got some issues,
37:42
Speaker 20: to put it lightly, and then the knifeman comes in,
37:45
Speaker 20: and I mean, it's just terrorizes ordinary shoppers. But I
37:49
Speaker 20: think so much of this is a reflection of the
37:54
Speaker 20: soft on crime approach by the police, by the city
37:57
Speaker 20: Council in Melbourne, who just seemed to tolerate this sort
38:00
Speaker 20: of stuff. You know, they don't want to victimize these
38:02
Speaker 20: already victimize people, or whatever logic they throw out of it,
38:06
Speaker 20: and it really.
38:08
Speaker 1: Points to that.
38:09
Speaker 20: Plus, of course, people are leaving the police force in
38:12
Speaker 20: considerable numbers. In Victoria, they have a staff shortage and
38:15
Speaker 20: I'm not surprised. I think ever since COVID, being a
38:19
Speaker 20: policeman in Victorian and most states of the country has
38:23
Speaker 20: not been the job you applied for, you know, which
38:25
Speaker 20: was to be basically a citizen in uniform who just
38:29
Speaker 20: kept the peace rather than enforced state dictats and went around,
38:34
Speaker 20: you know, behaving in a way that's completely unbecoming given
38:38
Speaker 20: the poltry of policing in Australia, which was a much
38:41
Speaker 20: more community led approach.
38:46
Speaker 2: The other thing, Nick, is is when you tolerate crime
38:49
Speaker 2: or fail to follow up and make arrests, you end
38:52
Speaker 2: up with worse than a crime crisis. You end up
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Speaker 2: with a culture of lawlessness. And it seems to me
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Speaker 2: that's where we're heading rapidly. If we're not, they're already
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Speaker 2: something sure needs to be done about it. Nick Kata,
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Speaker 2: thanks for joining me tonight. Well after the break, Anthony
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Speaker 2: ALBINIZI can you believe this? He wants some of the
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Speaker 2: credit for Donald Trump's Garza del seriously and Kamala Harris
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Speaker 2: is returning to Australia on a speaking to it but
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Speaker 2: you won't believe the topic. They've given her all of
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Speaker 2: that and more with my panel in just a moment. Well,
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Speaker 2: welcome to the program. We'll welcome back rather to the program.
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Speaker 2: I'm joined by Gema ton Nini from GT Communications. Jemma,
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Speaker 2: thanks for your time tonight. I wanted to tell you
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Speaker 2: about Turning Point USA. They returned to Utah last night
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Speaker 2: for their first event in the state since the organizations
39:42
Speaker 2: found that Charlie Kirk was assassinated at the college speaking
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Speaker 2: event earlier this month, but it had a very different
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Speaker 2: look this time. There were enhanced security measures, including drones,
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Speaker 2: security at every door, uniformed police officers, teams in tactical
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Speaker 2: they even had counter snipers at all of this at
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Speaker 2: a university campus, just to protect Christians from people who
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Speaker 2: might disagree with them.
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Speaker 3: Is this going to become the norm? Do you think?
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Speaker 21: Well, it is unfortunately the norm right now, but I
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Speaker 21: don't believe it's going to stay that way. All around
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Speaker 21: the world there has been a revolt, genuinely a revolt
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Speaker 21: from people, not necessarily just Christian people, but anyone who
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Speaker 21: sort of looks at this and goes enough enough of it.
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Speaker 21: And there are those who, as you and I both
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Speaker 21: know James, who will say, oh no, they will just
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Speaker 21: dismiss it. As you know, it's gun culture. It's got
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Speaker 21: nothing to do with ideology. It's everything to do with ideology. Yes,
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Speaker 21: the United States makes it easier for people to have
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Speaker 21: access to weapons, but it's not that it is the
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Speaker 21: ideology that thinks it's okay to take that kind of action.
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Speaker 21: And we're in the middle of it. I think we're
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Speaker 21: going to come out the other side of it, but
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Speaker 21: right now those measures are necessary.
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Speaker 2: Unfortunately, let me bring in Christy mcsweeny, who's joining us
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Speaker 2: from Ireland.
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Speaker 3: I believe in Dublin. Is that where you are Christian?
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Speaker 8: Yes, I am.
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Speaker 1: I can't understand the Gaelic language.
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Speaker 22: But thank goodness, the other half of it is written
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Speaker 22: in English. So I'm all for the Irish people bringing
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Speaker 22: back their original language if they want to, but please
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Speaker 22: stick for the English translation for people like men. But
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Speaker 22: it is a beautiful language if you can understand.
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Speaker 2: It well, if you can just talk Australian for us tonight,
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Speaker 2: I'm glad you've joined us with this event. At the
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Speaker 2: Utah University Turning Point, USA, they had six and a
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Speaker 2: half thousand students attend this event, more than they are
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Speaker 2: expecting had Charlie Kirk still been with us. It's quite
41:43
Speaker 2: a testament to the influence that he's had and the
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Speaker 2: impact that not only his assassination, but I suppose that
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Speaker 2: memorial service has had on the culture here.
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Speaker 22: It certainly has, and also among people who are very
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Speaker 22: very young, and so often that young people aren't engaged
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Speaker 22: in politics, that young people don't really know what they
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Speaker 22: believe that young people don't gravitate.
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Speaker 1: Towards political debate.
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Speaker 22: Well, what we're seeing in America is a display of
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Speaker 22: they do. Six and a half thousand people, and of
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Speaker 22: course Charlie Kirk speaking across campuses when he was still
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Speaker 22: with us, it's very clear that young people do engage,
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Speaker 22: do know what they believe, and do want to stand
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Speaker 22: up and represent what they believe. And as Jemma said,
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Speaker 22: you know a lot of people have said, you know,
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Speaker 22: we've had enough, and that includes young people. Because of
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Speaker 22: these numbers that we're seeing, there's a lot of discussion
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Speaker 22: around the Democrats might not do as well in the
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Speaker 22: midterm elections as they thought that a lot of the
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Speaker 22: younger people that they think at college campuses might particularly
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Speaker 22: vote Democrat. As sort of been looking at what's happened
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Speaker 22: since the Charlie Kirk assassination and really standing up for
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Speaker 22: what they actually believe in, and it's not going as well.
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Speaker 22: The Democrats are looking at having to adjust their numbers
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Speaker 22: for the midterm because of these numbers that we're seeing.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's quite incredible the movement that has taken place
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Speaker 2: since Charlie Kirk's death. Of course, it was happening already,
43:16
Speaker 2: but it's really being turbocharged. Donald Trump has been highly
43:19
Speaker 2: critical of countries like ours that decided to recognize a
43:23
Speaker 2: state of Palestine while Hamas still controls huge sways of
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Speaker 2: the region and holds hostages. When announcing his peace plan yesterday,
43:32
Speaker 2: referred to those countries as foolish. But get this this morning,
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Speaker 2: Anthony Albaneze has claimed credit for the peace deal. Asked
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Speaker 2: whether his decision to recognize Palestine had played into the
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Speaker 2: decision or the peace deal, he told the Australian Financial Review,
43:47
Speaker 2: no question, no question about it. Jimma, to use one
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Speaker 2: of Elbinze's favorite expressions, is de lulu, isn't he?
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Speaker 21: It takes a great deal of hutzpart to claim that
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Speaker 21: kind of credit for a process that you are at
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Speaker 21: best at arms lengths from have had no engagement with.
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Speaker 21: I mean, he couldn't even he could barely scrape himself
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Speaker 21: together a meeting with the President of the United States.
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Speaker 21: He had no agency over that plan, that planning, and
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Speaker 21: as we know, Humas has seventy two hours will be
44:17
Speaker 21: less now behalf that to come to the table, or
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Speaker 21: it's going to be it's going to be finished. As
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Speaker 21: the President said, and the absolute disconnect from reality on
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Speaker 21: this broader issue from the Australian government, the Prime Minister
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Speaker 21: and the Foreign Minister is breathtaking in its embarrassment. They've
44:37
Speaker 21: had no influence their position. Is put it this way.
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Speaker 21: When I was traveling in the Middle East during the
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Speaker 21: war last December, and you know, asking people about their
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Speaker 21: view on our country, mostly the response from people in
44:52
Speaker 21: the region that I spoke to, at least James was
44:54
Speaker 21: you know, what have we ever done to Australians to
44:56
Speaker 21: deserve this sort of treatment? And second of all, nobody
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Speaker 21: really you who Albanesi and one were, So let's be
45:03
Speaker 21: honest about it. There notoriety, if you like, has solely
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Speaker 21: come from picking the wrong team.
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Speaker 3: That's it.
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Speaker 21: They've had absolutely no agency, no impact, and no part
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Speaker 21: of bringing this to bear.
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Speaker 3: Christy.
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Speaker 2: This does create an interesting situation, though, does it not?
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Speaker 2: If Anthony Albanzi claims he's at least partly responsible for
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Speaker 2: helping to get this piece deal up. If Hamas reject
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Speaker 2: the deal, Trump's given Israel permission to go in and
45:34
Speaker 2: finish the job, I guess Albanisi would need to support that.
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Speaker 22: Yes, of course, And if you go into claim credit
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Speaker 22: for things that are brave, that are difficult, that are
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Speaker 22: leadership positions. You then have to deal with the fallout
45:51
Speaker 22: should those things not come to bear. And I will
45:55
Speaker 22: say as well, there is the world's so global now
46:00
Speaker 22: it isn't an availability for politicians these days like perhaps
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Speaker 22: they did fifty years ago to come to the UK
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Speaker 22: to stand with Kiss Starma, to stand with Emanuel Macron
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Speaker 22: and to talk about the Palestinian rights and the Palestinian movement,
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Speaker 22: and then also claim credit at home for the Americans
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Speaker 22: putting together a peace steal. You cannot speak out of
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Speaker 22: both sides of your mouth. And I understand that the
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Speaker 22: Prime Minister.
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Speaker 23: Sought to speak on the world stage and sought to
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Speaker 23: engage with Macron and Kiss Starma while he was traveling internationally,
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Speaker 23: and that's okay.
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Speaker 22: Australia needs those types of relationships. But on the other hand,
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Speaker 22: you then can't say a claim credit for a piece
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Speaker 22: you're being put together by Donald Trump. They're two really
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Speaker 22: really opposing positions by two really really opposing political ideologies.
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Speaker 1: And he joined the former camp.
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Speaker 3: Indeed he did, all right.
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Speaker 2: Just before we finish up, it's been announced today that
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Speaker 2: former US Vice President Kamala Harris will speak at a
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Speaker 2: leadership summit in Sydney next February. Now, the funny thing
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Speaker 2: about this is when she spoke at a real estate
47:16
Speaker 2: conference on the Gold Coast earlier this year, I remember thinking,
47:19
Speaker 2: what does Kamala Harris know about being a real estate agent? Well,
47:22
Speaker 2: now I'm thinking she's probably eminently more qualified to speak
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Speaker 2: on Gold Coast real estate than she used to speak
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Speaker 2: on leadership.
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Speaker 21: Gemma, It's an odd one, isn't it. I guess people
47:32
Speaker 21: will pay for anything, and there are some people who'll
47:34
Speaker 21: pay just to get close to someone who used to
47:36
Speaker 21: be something. I mean, she was appalling, like there's no
47:41
Speaker 21: other way to describe her political political performance is utterly appalling.
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Speaker 21: I can't imagine, you know, is she going to what's
47:49
Speaker 21: that phrase that she says all the time? For going?
47:51
Speaker 21: What has been? And whatever? That one that she just
47:54
Speaker 21: says it all the time, Like I can watch YouTube videos.
47:58
Speaker 21: I would rather put my money in a buck and
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Speaker 21: set fire to it, to be honest with you, rather
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Speaker 21: than go and hear her speak. I don't think she
48:05
Speaker 21: has anything of value to offer on leadership. One would
48:08
Speaker 21: assume that if you're going to speak to hear someone
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Speaker 21: speak about leadership, they may have actually led something.
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Speaker 2: You are absolutely right, I reckon if women are looking
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Speaker 2: for a leadership tip, event hostly Sales could just tell
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Speaker 2: delegates don't be like Kamala Harris and there would be
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Speaker 2: all the advice they would need. Jemma and Christy, That's
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Speaker 2: all I've got time for, but thanks so much for
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Speaker 2: being on with me tonight.
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Speaker 3: Well stick around.
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Speaker 2: Coming up in just a moment is Denika de Giorgio.
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Speaker 2: She's hosting Sherry good Night