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LET'S TALK ABOUT IT WITH SHANETTE JOHNSON & CORNEL JACKIE DRUMMER | SEASON 2 DA CREW PODCAST| 11/18/24 · DA CREW Podcast

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  Speaker 6: Right now.
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  Speaker 7: Good evening and thank you for what Thank you for
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  Speaker 7: joining me for another episode of Let's Talk about It
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  Speaker 7: on this evening. Our topic is going to know the
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  Speaker 7: justice system wrongfully convicted mister Legate. Mister Legate is joining
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  Speaker 7: us tonight, but before we get started, I want to
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  Speaker 7: do a little house cleaning house keyp. Thanks, let's talk
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  Speaker 7: about it. It's a synth, it's a help me Cornell.
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  Speaker 5: I think it's a syndicated talk show.
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  Speaker 7: You know, I get tongued, ty, so'm I'm gonna go
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  Speaker 7: back and forth. We're brought to you by the Crew
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  Speaker 7: Podcast under the leadership of the visionary Queen Angela Thompson.
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  Speaker 7: Without her, Thomas Smith. Without her, this wouldn't be possible,
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  Speaker 7: and I would like to thank her for giving us
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  Speaker 7: this platform to be able to speak up against injustice.
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  Speaker 7: Tonight we have mister Legate and Cornell is going to
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  Speaker 7: join us. I'm gonna ask Angela to play a quick
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  Speaker 7: video to bring everyone up to speed at you don't
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  Speaker 7: remember who mister Legate is. After the video, you will
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  Speaker 7: hear mister legate Angela h okay, Well, I guess before
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  Speaker 7: the video come up, Cornell, I would like for you
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  Speaker 2: I think you helped me make you help in this process.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, there was in the.
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  Speaker 7: Cornell, Well, we're back. I guess we was having a
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  Speaker 7: little trouble with the video to get started. So I'm
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  Speaker 7: gonna just go ahead and we're gonna jump into it.
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  Speaker 7: I'm gonna have my co host Cornell go ahead and
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  Speaker 7: introduce itself, but.
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  Speaker 4: From the campaign, off the news, macazine writer and a
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  Speaker 4: partner with the Cool podcast and tonight I'm a co
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  Speaker 4: host on to show. Let's talk about with my best
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  Speaker 4: friends and their friends visit and tonight show is about
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  Speaker 4: justice in our colon and tonight we do have mister
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  Speaker 4: Dames look at you for what to come on and
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  Speaker 4: tell his story about you were going to be convicted
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  Speaker 4: within the colic. With that, DN said, I will on
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  Speaker 4: my host.
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  Speaker 6: To that job.
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  Speaker 10: And now.
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  Speaker 7: I know you guys been want to hear from mister Legate.
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  Speaker 7: I haven't had missed. We haven't talked to mister Legate
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  Speaker 7: in probably about two or three months, and I wanted
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  Speaker 7: to just check in with him and see how he's doing. So,
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  Speaker 7: mister Legate, how were you doing this evening?
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  Speaker 6: Well, I'm doing great. Should I thank you so much
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  Speaker 6: for having me back at the Prince to be here
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  Speaker 6: with you and mister Cornell.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you.
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  Speaker 7: You are welcome. So I would like for you to
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  Speaker 7: introduce yourself let the audience know exactly what's going on.
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  Speaker 6: Okay, Well, you know my name is James Legate. I'm
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  Speaker 6: in nineteen ninety nine and before the ninety for her investment.
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  Speaker 6: Any doorship who is gonna duved as the Fingo King.
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  Speaker 6: It was very highly uh highly influential individual. They had
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  Speaker 6: times with congressman, senators, lawyers, judges. I mean he was
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  Speaker 6: in everybody's a fucket, so many attentions. Out of everything
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  Speaker 6: that I read, you know, at the beginning of my job,
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  Speaker 6: I know anything else, not just all I knew. They
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  Speaker 6: were charged before his murder, which murder I.
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  Speaker 4: Did not admit.
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  Speaker 6: I asked this, like my case six day one. I've
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  Speaker 6: been looking into my case and looking into my cage
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  Speaker 6: and and I've been glad uh with this out of
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  Speaker 6: a detectives of Silver magazine who wrote an article in
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  Speaker 6: the Mad Pointies uh nineteen, I mean May twenty issues.
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  Speaker 6: Murder was the first uh exculpatory evidence they was held
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  Speaker 6: for me. In other words, what they been ill was
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  Speaker 6: the awaitness I was looking for that day actually saw
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  Speaker 6: my name as a poena attendant that I didn't do it,
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  Speaker 6: totally investigator there, but they hit her. And after my
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  Speaker 6: conviction twenty years later, uh, they found uh the individual
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  Speaker 6: he said that had me commit this crime alive, which
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  Speaker 6: during trial they actually said that they had learned that
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  Speaker 6: he was killed in mexicool.
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  Speaker 4: But the craziest part of my case, which I didn't
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  Speaker 4: under just to.
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  Speaker 6: I cannot find any case like mine where he talked
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  Speaker 6: to evidence of the discovered evidence to the prosecutor saying, hey,
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  Speaker 6: this guy's not dead, he's alive, which could be seen
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  Speaker 6: on the documentary that the Asians were metaling her team
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  Speaker 6: produced for Case at twelve on YouTube, the titles of
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  Speaker 6: Conviction the Big Bokid Murder. But well, it's so crazy
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  Speaker 6: is that though the guy was there and they had.
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  Speaker 4: Awakened school personally had firstly overheard this man telling me
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  Speaker 4: that I needed to be gore and and hurt this
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  Speaker 4: person talking about mister Garcia.
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  Speaker 6: Well, when they discovered that mister Simona was intact alive
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  Speaker 6: now the state they actually changed her tomb. They're all
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  Speaker 6: kids like, oh, it's more than likely that mister Siever,
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  Speaker 6: you hit it independent cooperation to bring a case a gift.
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  Speaker 6: It not even the person who had personal knowledge of
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  Speaker 6: this fact. And this is where I'm at right now,
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  Speaker 6: This is where I can't understand, because now if you
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  Speaker 6: take away the main past character was a confuser, you
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  Speaker 6: take came away, then you're taking away the person who
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  Speaker 6: alledly had me commit the crime.
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  Speaker 4: I'm neither or nothing.
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  Speaker 6: What am I here for? I don't have.
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  Speaker 11: Well, y'all, I am truly truly sorry. But apparently there
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  Speaker 11: we're having some technical difficulties. Sheeannette has dropped off. We're
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  Speaker 11: gonna see if she comes back on. Hopefully she will
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  Speaker 11: come back on. I truly truly apologize. Meanwhile, we're gonna
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  Speaker 11: play a video that she wanted to share with you guys.
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  Speaker 12: And concerning apparently.
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  Speaker 5: There, we're having some technical difficulties.
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  Speaker 4: Sett has dropped off.
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  Speaker 5: We're going to see if she comes back on.
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  Speaker 12: Hopefully, So yeah, just hold on just a second. Hopefully
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  Speaker 12: she will get back on.
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  Speaker 13: Mister Legate has always maintained that there was more to
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  Speaker 13: this case than what was presented at the trial.
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  Speaker 1: Do you agree? Oh?
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely. One of the sound invites that the prosecutors gave
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  Speaker 2: us was that this wasn't an open and shut case,
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  Speaker 2: that this was one of the easiest murder cases that
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  Speaker 2: they've ever tried, and there was a lot more to this,
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  Speaker 2: just the fact that Zamora is out there in existence
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  Speaker 2: when they all but gave up in ever finding him.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, one of the things that the prosecutor
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  Speaker 2: said was, well, we couldn't bring a case against him,
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  Speaker 2: you know, an im paphrasing here, But the pursuit of
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  Speaker 2: justice to me means more than just are you able
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  Speaker 2: to get a case against him, but are you able
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  Speaker 2: to question him and even determine whether or not he
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  Speaker 2: had anything to do with it? And so, you know,
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  Speaker 2: there were a lot of lingering questions that I think
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  Speaker 2: we helped to answer in this process. So, yes, I
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  Speaker 2: agree that there was much more to this story.
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  Speaker 9: Did you contact additional people who weren't in this documentary
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  Speaker 9: for any additional sources? Just additional information?
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  Speaker 10: I explored a lot of I don't know if conspiracy
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  Speaker 10: theories is the right phrase for it, but went down
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  Speaker 10: a lot of rabbit holes that were mentioned either in
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  Speaker 10: the trial or in some of the appeal paperwork that
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  Speaker 10: came after the conviction of Legate, and you know, spend
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  Speaker 10: an extensive amount of time just making sure that those
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  Speaker 10: weren't factual leaders.
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  Speaker 13: Mister Legate has always maintained that there was more to
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  Speaker 13: this case than what was presented at the trial.
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  Speaker 1: Do you agree? Oh?
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely. One of the sound bites that the prosecutors gave
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  Speaker 2: us was that this wasn't an open and shut case,
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  Speaker 2: that this was one of the easiest murder cases that
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  Speaker 2: they've ever tried. And there was a lot more to this,
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  Speaker 2: just the fact that Zamora is out there in existence
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  Speaker 2: when they all but gave up in ever finding him.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, one of the things that the prosecutor
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  Speaker 2: said was, well, we couldn't bring a case against him,
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  Speaker 2: you know, inn in paraphrasing here, But the pursuit of
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  Speaker 2: justice to me means more than just are you able
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  Speaker 2: to get a case against him, but are you able
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  Speaker 2: to question to him and even determine whether or not
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  Speaker 2: he had anything to do with it? And so you know,
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  Speaker 2: there were a lot of lingering questions that I think
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  Speaker 2: we helped to answer in this process. So yes, I
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  Speaker 2: agree that there was much more to this story.
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  Speaker 9: Did you contact additional people who weren't in this documentary
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  Speaker 9: for any additional sources just additional information?
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  Speaker 10: I explored a lot of I don't know if conspiracy
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  Speaker 10: theories is the right phrase for it, but went down
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  Speaker 10: a lot of rabbit holes that were mentioned either in
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  Speaker 10: the trial or in some of the appeal paperwork that
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  Speaker 10: came after the conviction of Legate. And you know, spend
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  Speaker 10: an extensive amount of time just making sure that those
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  Speaker 10: weren't factual leads. So a lot of you know, the
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  Speaker 10: behind the scenes work that we did never even made
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  Speaker 10: it into the six episodes.
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  Speaker 9: What happens next?
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  Speaker 1: Where there being more to follow?
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  Speaker 9: In the case of James Leggate, that's a good question.
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  Speaker 2: All depends I know now revealed and so it's unknown
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  Speaker 2: what happened.
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  Speaker 7: I don't know if you guys heard mister Legate speak
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  Speaker 7: before we got the connection went down on us. But
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  Speaker 7: I have a question for you right quick, mister Legate,
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  Speaker 7: how do you feel?
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  Speaker 5: How?
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  Speaker 7: How did the justice system fail you? We know that well,
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  Speaker 7: I know that by looking at the documentary that they
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  Speaker 7: found the man that a cute that supposedly paid you
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  Speaker 7: to do this hit. They found him alive after someone
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  Speaker 7: stated that he was stabbed in Mexico. The investigative team
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  Speaker 7: found him over in Mexico.
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  Speaker 1: So we know.
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  Speaker 7: I know that much, but I want to hear it
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  Speaker 7: coming from you.
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  Speaker 6: Well, yes, uh, you see, this is what I was
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  Speaker 6: talking about earlier and what I've been saying, which is
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  Speaker 6: really kind of crazy to me, because you know, the
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  Speaker 6: argument of the state, their whole theory for this was
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  Speaker 6: a hired hit. You know that even though the word
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  Speaker 6: hired hit wasn't there established that has team and he
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  Speaker 6: had problems with some kind of Albogado, which is an attorney,
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  Speaker 6: although mister Garcia was not an attorney. He said, look
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  Speaker 6: he's starting to he's having the problems. He needed protection
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  Speaker 6: and he needed that man hurts well. Uh, this is
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  Speaker 6: according to Jesse Hernandez, who would be Goo's real name
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  Speaker 6: is one a thought of Hernan.
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  Speaker 1: Uh.
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  Speaker 6: What happened there is is during my trial the three
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  Speaker 6: computers came up and me and said, hey, we just
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  Speaker 6: learned to Uh mister Garcia wasn't actually killed him actually, Okay,
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  Speaker 6: So that just says that you'res the judge, everybody and
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  Speaker 6: the auden, everybody, even me with with just being believed
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  Speaker 6: in what the state was president at that copen Jesse's
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  Speaker 6: Jessie Hernand's personal testimony that he overheard this that's saying
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  Speaker 6: that actually go ahead and hurt this man. He also
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  Speaker 6: said that there were two other individuals at is so
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  Speaker 6: called a meeting that I wasn't supposed to have been
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  Speaker 6: in which poison of Robert most Pubert lawyers. But those
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  Speaker 6: two A division boards never at my tunal. They never
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  Speaker 6: testified for me, against me or anything. In other words,
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  Speaker 6: I don't understand why and for those people operating testimony
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  Speaker 6: that it could and helped Jesse's uh uh testimonies. So
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  Speaker 6: what happens now is that when he's soever her team,
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  Speaker 6: they you know, put a lot of the work into
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  Speaker 6: this investigation of my case, and all they said, well,
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  Speaker 6: they're trying to find the truth to unanswered questions so
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  Speaker 6: dated and they certain they found that Timona was actually alive.
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  Speaker 6: And so when they hired a team to go out
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  Speaker 6: there and interview mister Simona, he even admitted, Hey, look,
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  Speaker 6: I don't know nothing about this case. I was at
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  Speaker 6: the man's funeral. He was my friend. We were never
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  Speaker 6: business partners, which was the state's argument that business bumpers said,
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  Speaker 6: we're not business bumpers or nothing.
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  Speaker 4: Uh, I don't have him doing his murder. I'm looking
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  Speaker 4: at him as sure.
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  Speaker 6: Uh that ah. But now that the state learned that
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  Speaker 6: he was alive, the whole tune changed. There was there's
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  Speaker 6: no evidence to bring against a case again, uh, mister Simona,
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  Speaker 6: not even not even Bessie Hernandez or they would even
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  Speaker 6: want to get Robert montes Dy and give me an
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  Speaker 6: evidentary hearing so that we could depote the records, some
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  Speaker 6: of them, the records with the facts. I don't have
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  Speaker 6: nothing to hide.
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  Speaker 7: You know, I was, I was looking at episode five
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  Speaker 7: and well, you know, you guys, when you have the time,
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  Speaker 7: please go look at episode five. That's when everything the
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  Speaker 7: supposedly evidence and stuff is supposed to be shown. But
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  Speaker 7: you will also know mister Legate said Jesse Hernandez was
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  Speaker 7: his brother name. So the little brother used the big
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  Speaker 7: brother name and wants the investigation team. You know what,
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  Speaker 7: go watch it. You know you will see. I want
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  Speaker 7: you guys to see exactly what I've seen and look
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  Speaker 7: at the face of the prosecution of look.
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  Speaker 10: made it.
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  Speaker 1: What happened.
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  Speaker 8: Now now now.
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  Speaker 1: It was.
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  Speaker 8: I really sat to talk.
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  Speaker 7: Don't at.
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  Speaker 8: Absolutely having account.
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  Speaker 4: Because when when they all.
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  Speaker 2: Yeahs, but but but then.
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  Speaker 1: Anything so you know you.
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  Speaker 2: Help, we don't help and intend.
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  Speaker 13: Yeah yeah yeah, could you want to watch the locals.
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  Speaker 1: Boring just a lot of I don't know you but
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  Speaker 1: we got we mentioned minute after. It makes.
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  Speaker 4: A lot of work.
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  Speaker 1: You never never never did.
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  Speaker 13: What happened about happen the walls.
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  Speaker 12: That's a good question.
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  Speaker 8: Share share share and.
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  Speaker 2: Seemingly you know you.
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  Speaker 1: Are.
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  Speaker 17: They work on that one a while, I would.
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  Speaker 3: Garcia was shot in cold blood in the office of
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  Speaker 3: his home healthcare business, and shortly after Garcia was killed,
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  Speaker 3: thirty seven year old James Legate to the scene fleeing
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  Speaker 3: the scene was arrested for the murder.
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  Speaker 7: Okay, and we're back. I have Cornell, and I have
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  Speaker 7: Cornell and mister Legate on and we were just talking
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  Speaker 7: about the me and mister Gate was just talking about
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  Speaker 7: the gun. Because that's kind of strange that if your
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  Speaker 7: case you're still you said your this is an ongoing investigation,
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  Speaker 7: and I know you still have the right to appeal
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  Speaker 7: your your case right, And from what I seen on
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  Speaker 7: the documentary episode five, I truly believe if I heard
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  Speaker 7: it right, that the gun is no longer in.
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  Speaker 5: Existence. All they had was a picture.
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  Speaker 6: You're up there, Well, I do know what they If
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  Speaker 6: they just destroyed it and they give me an opportunity
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  Speaker 6: for a new trial, I'm gonna have to I have
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  Speaker 6: that opportunity to have it tested again. No, uh, you know,
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  Speaker 6: according to like I said, according to the attention closed
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  Speaker 6: the criminal procedure, I have to come there someone. I
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  Speaker 6: think it's thirty four seventeen or nineteen something like that.
• 32:26
  Speaker 6: It clearly shows the preservation of evidence, and if the
• 32:29
  Speaker 6: preservation of evidence they show that if for it, then
• 32:33
  Speaker 6: there is no more ongoing investigations.
• 32:37
  Speaker 4: Or they could do it that they can't.
• 33:00
  Speaker 6: H at the time it goes Donas County for an
• 33:42
  Speaker 6: aggravate for an assault charge. But I also learned that
• 33:46
  Speaker 6: that same case under I had to putice for the
• 33:49
  Speaker 6: phone number that it's still to this day on his
• 33:53
  Speaker 6: brother's record because he was using his brother's name. Remember,
• 33:57
  Speaker 6: And what the great is that the crit that through
• 34:00
  Speaker 6: trials she all the investigation I have right now, right
• 34:04
  Speaker 6: I have what they call it the prosecution guys report.
• 34:07
  Speaker 6: That prosecution guys report, I think all all investigating officers
• 34:12
  Speaker 6: in every county, every state they do this, and they
• 34:14
  Speaker 6: had this one their complete of their investigation to the
• 34:19
  Speaker 6: prosecutors so that they can build their case. All the
• 34:23
  Speaker 6: evidence that the prosecutors somebody that already accumulated. So throughout
• 34:30
  Speaker 6: all the Siboard guy I have, you know, I pounced
• 34:34
  Speaker 6: it and he was given to his charge all this stuff.
• 34:37
  Speaker 6: But during the trial he ca I mean, I'll want her.
• 34:44
  Speaker 6: But from the beginning of the investigation of this her
• 34:47
  Speaker 6: investigation he used just yourn I got every paperwork and
• 34:51
  Speaker 6: everybody who even testified that they said, well, missus John
• 34:57
  Speaker 6: and Hernanda, but he said, don't want this in her
• 35:00
  Speaker 6: that even his girlfriend shooting over the wheels, Well he
• 35:05
  Speaker 6: got the peanut. Under genesee, hernanis to go to the
• 35:09
  Speaker 6: grand jurors. So even in the grand jury, he died
• 35:12
  Speaker 6: about his whole identity. So if we think about this man,
• 35:15
  Speaker 6: what he did, we think or when he was to trial,
• 35:19
  Speaker 6: he didn't give it no name. But when he asked him,
• 35:22
  Speaker 6: did they promised you anything or did you get any
• 35:24
  Speaker 6: deals or nothing?
• 35:25
  Speaker 4: He said no.
• 35:26
  Speaker 6: Well technically, but when you go back to the original
• 35:34
  Speaker 6: name that he use, you're going to find that police
• 35:38
  Speaker 6: case that he was incited and charged for possession of compain.
• 35:44
  Speaker 6: Now they didn't dismiss that case for his testiment. So
• 35:48
  Speaker 6: that's another another area that that was just what the traditional.
• 35:53
  Speaker 4: System health me.
• 35:55
  Speaker 6: They telled me because they didn't care about justice. Him
• 36:00
  Speaker 6: was a conviction which they got and twenty six plus
• 36:03
  Speaker 6: years later, here I am playing to fight. But the
• 36:07
  Speaker 6: jail was that when they found it, the motive was alive.
• 36:12
  Speaker 6: Now they did know what to city. Oh, we can't
• 36:14
  Speaker 6: bring it back because we really don't have to live
• 36:17
  Speaker 6: the kist. We don't use it because he was he
• 36:21
  Speaker 6: was killed.
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: That's what we learned.
• 36:23
  Speaker 6: So we went with this kid, what do they have it?
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: And you President, and you.
• 36:28
  Speaker 7: Know, I want to jump in because you I mean,
• 36:32
  Speaker 7: everything that you're saying, it's in the documentary. Everything that
• 36:39
  Speaker 7: you're saying, I mean just by looking at the documentary
• 36:42
  Speaker 7: five one today so I can get caught back up
• 36:45
  Speaker 7: and seeing that it was two brothers but one of
• 36:50
  Speaker 7: the brothers didn't know that the other brother was using
• 36:53
  Speaker 7: his name. If the police department would.
• 36:57
  Speaker 5: Have did the.
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: More the trial, do you.
• 37:03
  Speaker 5: Agree it's no as should be.
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: One of the sound by the prosecutors say was that
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: this wasn't an opening case, that this is one of
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: the easiest cases that they've ever tried. And there was
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: a bage to this, just the fact that when they
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: all but gave up, you know, never findings and you know,
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: one of the things, can the case against the more
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: in paraphrasing, but.
• 37:30
  Speaker 7: He's supposed to be there to say, justice.
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: Means more than just are you able to do a
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: case against you? A question and even determine whether you
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: had anything to do with that. And so you know,
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: there were a lot of we helped imp in this process. Yes,
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: I agree that there was much more.
• 37:54
  Speaker 9: Now I know you want to contact additional people who
• 37:56
  Speaker 9: want the most documentary for any additional source is just
• 38:00
  Speaker 9: additional information.
• 38:02
  Speaker 10: I explored a lot of I don't know if conspiracy
• 38:05
  Speaker 10: theories is the right phrase for it, but went down
• 38:08
  Speaker 10: a lot of rabbit holes that were mentioned either in
• 38:11
  Speaker 10: the trial or in some of the appeal paperwork that
• 38:14
  Speaker 10: came after the conviction of the Gate and you know,
• 38:19
  Speaker 10: spend an extensive amount of time just making sure that
• 38:22
  Speaker 10: those weren't a lot of you know, the behind the
• 38:26
  Speaker 10: scenes work that we did never even made it the.
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: More to follow.
• 38:33
  Speaker 13: In the case of James Leggade.
• 38:36
  Speaker 8: That's a good question.
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: I think it all depends. I know that we've now
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: revealed our findings to.
• 38:42
  Speaker 8: All the parties involved.
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: We've revealed our findings, and so it's unknown what happens next.
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: I think there are different opinions on what avenues are available,
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: mister Legate now that we have found what we found
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: of sharing it with the public, and so that'll be
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: not to be determined what happens in this seemingly non
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: stop saga.
• 39:10
  Speaker 13: Most of the game has always maintained that there was
• 39:12
  Speaker 13: more of this case than one was presented at the trial.
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: Oh absolutely, from one of the sound bites that the
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: prosecutors gave us was that this wasn't an open and
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: shut case, that this was one of the easiest murder
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: cases that they've ever tried. And there was a lot
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: to this, just the fact that Zamora is out there
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: in existence when they all but gave up in ever
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: finding it. And you know, one of the things that
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: the prosecutor said was, well, we couldn't bring a case
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: against in paraphrasing him, but the pursuit of justice to
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: me means more than just are you able to a
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: case against him, but are you able to question and
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: even determine whether or not he had anything to do
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: with it? And so you know, there were a lot
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: of lingering questions that we helped to answer in this process. So, yes,
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: I agreed that there was much.
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: More to this story.
• 40:07
  Speaker 9: Did you contact additional people who wanted in this documentary
• 40:11
  Speaker 9: for any additional sources just additional information?
• 40:14
  Speaker 10: I explored a lot of I don't know if conspiracy
• 40:17
  Speaker 10: theories is the right phrase for it, but UH went
• 40:20
  Speaker 10: down a lot of rabbit holes that were mentioned either
• 40:24
  Speaker 10: in the trial or in some of the appeal paperwork
• 40:27
  Speaker 10: that came after the conviction of the Gate, and you know,
• 40:31
  Speaker 10: spend an extensive amount of time just making sure that
• 40:34
  Speaker 10: those weren't faction. There's a lot of you know, the
• 40:38
  Speaker 10: behind the scenes work that we did never even made
• 40:40
  Speaker 10: it into the destroy.
• 40:43
  Speaker 13: What happens next?
• 40:44
  Speaker 9: Will there be more to follow in the case of
• 40:47
  Speaker 9: James the Gate.
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: That's a good question. I think it all depends. I
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: know that we've now revealed our find needs to all
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: the parties involved. We've revealed ours date, and so it's
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: unknown what happens. I think they're differing opinions on what
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: avenues are available. It's the Gate now that we have
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: found what we found and whatever, sharing it with the public,
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: and so that'll be you have to be determined what
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: happens in seemingly NonStop saga.
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: To do that.
• 41:21
  Speaker 13: But the Gate has always maintained that there was more
• 41:25
  Speaker 13: of this case than where was presented at the trial.
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: Agree.
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: Oh absolutely. One of the sound bites that the prosecutors
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: gave us was that this wasn't an open and shot base,
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: that this was one of the easiest order of cases
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: that they don't tried, and there was a lot more
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: to this just the fact that somewhata is out there
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: in existence when they all but gave up in never
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: finding of them. And you know, one of the things
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: that the prosecutor said was, well, we could bring a
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: case against town, you know.
• 42:00
  Speaker 4: So then you go to the Bear County Chief depart
• 42:02
  Speaker 4: and asked him to give you an item, a list
• 42:04
  Speaker 4: of all the weapons that was destroyed by him during
• 42:07
  Speaker 4: the timeframe that the weapon was destored. And I guarantee
• 42:10
  Speaker 4: you they did not have that document.
• 42:12
  Speaker 5: So with that being said, this.
• 42:14
  Speaker 4: Is a whole newly discovery evidence showing that she was
• 42:17
  Speaker 4: literally framed by the San Antonio Police Department, the Beer
• 42:20
  Speaker 4: count of Medical m Office, and the state of that's
• 42:23
  Speaker 4: your case, lookame the thaw because.
• 42:27
  Speaker 10: I see it.
• 42:29
  Speaker 4: I see that. And the only woman, the only.
• 42:32
  Speaker 6: Evidence that the testimony they had regarding the gun was
• 42:35
  Speaker 6: Jamie Becker. She was a fire arm expert who tenestified
• 42:38
  Speaker 6: that she was the one who actually uh uh bought
• 42:42
  Speaker 6: her the weapon to make sure if they matched the
• 42:44
  Speaker 6: uh the shelves that were inside the gun that they found,
• 42:48
  Speaker 6: and she said it was and then the medical examiner
• 42:53
  Speaker 6: said that the bullet shelf they didn't match, uh or
• 42:57
  Speaker 6: she said it's the bullet that they just got a
• 43:00
  Speaker 6: mits Garcia they found did match pay the uh the
• 43:04
  Speaker 6: gun there was that they actually counted. So you know
• 43:07
  Speaker 6: the things that I had to go on to that
• 43:09
  Speaker 6: made me say, okay, well they're saying that the gun
• 43:11
  Speaker 6: that shot bet the Garcia. Now you know it's been
• 43:15
  Speaker 6: the prosecution guide report, the merchand I was talking about
• 43:20
  Speaker 6: uh oh, he said something earlier, and my brain just
• 43:24
  Speaker 6: went fly right now because I was talking about the gun.
• 43:27
  Speaker 6: Uh oh.
• 43:31
  Speaker 4: Throughout the investigation reports. Oh like on mister Hernandez, right
• 43:36
  Speaker 4: where they said that he was. He said to Mexico, well,
• 43:39
  Speaker 4: I understand this, and this is why.
• 43:41
  Speaker 6: I different questioned by his death. Was is because the
• 43:47
  Speaker 6: investigator that detected King Albright, he was the lead investigator
• 43:53
  Speaker 6: in this case, was a notation in there that he
• 43:57
  Speaker 6: contacted the Mexico or Attorney General trying to put out
• 44:02
  Speaker 6: a KPIs for mister Simon to see they can locate
• 44:05
  Speaker 6: in which the attorney General that the agent at the
• 44:08
  Speaker 6: head I think it name was that he said, yes,
• 44:11
  Speaker 6: he was gonna go ahead and do that and try
• 44:13
  Speaker 6: to see if you can look mister Simota. But then
• 44:16
  Speaker 6: like during Charlotte, Like they said that.
• 44:18
  Speaker 4: They learned that he was killed there. Well, it pops
• 44:21
  Speaker 4: in my head and question, well, if that's the case,
• 44:25
  Speaker 4: why did or did they not contact.
• 44:28
  Speaker 6: The attorney general up in to make sure that he
• 44:30
  Speaker 6: was actually killed? You see what I'm saying. So I
• 44:34
  Speaker 6: didn't know, And that's another question that talk in my
• 44:38
  Speaker 6: head because from the man that put to Mexico and
• 44:42
  Speaker 6: you contact the attorney general, but then you find out
• 44:45
  Speaker 6: that you wouldn't be feasible to actually trying to find
• 44:51
  Speaker 6: out if he was actually killed.
• 44:53
  Speaker 7: But you're not. I want to jump in right here.
• 44:58
  Speaker 7: Watching the documentary, the investigated team that was that.
• 45:05
  Speaker 6: Was in.
• 45:07
  Speaker 7: Mexico that actually went into the went into Zamora's house,
• 45:14
  Speaker 7: reported back to the investigating team over in Texas that
• 45:19
  Speaker 7: he said that he was kidnapped. It wasn't never that
• 45:24
  Speaker 7: he was killed or anything. He said he was kidnapped
• 45:28
  Speaker 7: and he finally escaped and then the uh, the prosecution.
• 45:34
  Speaker 7: The lady she said, well, wouldn't you be afraid you
• 45:38
  Speaker 7: walking around looking over your shoulders. And I'm saying to myself, like,
• 45:45
  Speaker 7: this is the this is the guy that supposedly set
• 45:50
  Speaker 7: everything in motion, that was supposed to have paid for
• 45:56
  Speaker 7: a hit and you feeling sympathy for him him because
• 46:00
  Speaker 7: he quote unquote said he was kidnapped.
• 46:03
  Speaker 5: The man ran away.
• 46:04
  Speaker 7: What would another woman divorced? His wife left his business?
• 46:10
  Speaker 7: You know what, you guys, go watch episode five. I mean,
• 46:14
  Speaker 7: it's a documentary. And when I talk about when I
• 46:20
  Speaker 7: see the injustice, and that's why I'm so passionate. You know,
• 46:27
  Speaker 7: go watch the whole documentary from one all the way
• 46:31
  Speaker 7: to six. You will see what I see. You know,
• 46:35
  Speaker 7: no gunshot residue on his clothes, on his hand, no
• 46:40
  Speaker 7: blood splatter on him. It's a taco a tacos thing.
• 46:46
  Speaker 7: They say that he was sitting in the bar case
• 46:50
  Speaker 7: in the place. He's repollman. What do bring people that
• 46:55
  Speaker 7: repossessed cards?
• 46:57
  Speaker 6: Do?
• 46:57
  Speaker 7: They sit and they watch and they take down life
• 47:00
  Speaker 7: and plates number. They know they know where you work
• 47:03
  Speaker 7: at because you don't put the addresses down on the
• 47:07
  Speaker 7: paper on your finance papers.
• 47:09
  Speaker 5: They know where you stay at.
• 47:11
  Speaker 7: He's a repoman.
• 47:12
  Speaker 17: And then.
• 47:15
  Speaker 7: What if what if you hire hitmen? What hit man
• 47:21
  Speaker 7: is going to leave his car at the scene of
• 47:24
  Speaker 7: a crime.
• 47:27
  Speaker 17: And leave his and leave his.
• 47:30
  Speaker 7: Identification, leave everything in his car? You know, it's articles
• 47:37
  Speaker 7: I sent mister Legate articles of what was you know,
• 47:42
  Speaker 7: what was saying about him in these articles. I wish
• 47:47
  Speaker 7: you guys can read these articles because if you see
• 47:52
  Speaker 7: the names that's associated with mister Legate's case, it's no
• 48:02
  Speaker 7: way he should be sitting in there. He was just
• 48:06
  Speaker 7: an escape goat. That's all they used him. They use him.
• 48:18
  Speaker 7: Please go go watch the documentary they have a it's
• 48:22
  Speaker 7: a he's an innocent man. He done gave. Like I'm
• 48:26
  Speaker 7: gonna keep saying this the state of Texas, twenty six years.
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: Of his life.
• 48:33
  Speaker 7: For nothing. Okay, let me let my co hosts jump in,
• 48:40
  Speaker 7: because I feel my blood pressure kind of rising.
• 48:43
  Speaker 4: Yes, ma'am, Yes, ma'am, Well, thank you, Ma'am's gate, sir.
• 48:48
  Speaker 4: I'm going to the other side. And when I get
• 48:51
  Speaker 4: to the other side, the first thing I'm going to
• 48:53
  Speaker 4: do it go to the city Hall to speak to
• 48:55
  Speaker 4: the sitting there, the city councilor the county commissioners, the county,
• 49:00
  Speaker 4: the chief of police, the FBI and everybody, and I
• 49:03
  Speaker 4: am going to go have them to put up all
• 49:05
  Speaker 4: of the documents about this weapon. Why because this gun
• 49:09
  Speaker 4: is puzzled in me and I know it can't be
• 49:11
  Speaker 4: the murder. The wespons, sir, you have been delivered the
• 49:14
  Speaker 4: same fire, the police department, the medical time of office,
• 49:17
  Speaker 4: and the state of tests. They do this every day.
• 49:20
  Speaker 4: So my point to you, sir, is that as of
• 49:23
  Speaker 4: right answer, you are chasing what they know you'll never catch.
• 49:27
  Speaker 7: So what you have to do you have to go.
• 49:30
  Speaker 4: Back and disprove everything they say they did to you.
• 49:34
  Speaker 4: Iron out about that murder weapon, because the murder weapon
• 49:37
  Speaker 4: is what's lincoln you to the crime. Despite the fact
• 49:39
  Speaker 4: that this guy says that he sells you or he
• 49:42
  Speaker 4: told you to do this and you saw you get
• 49:44
  Speaker 4: a gun. Word, the murder weapon is the worst pieces
• 49:46
  Speaker 4: of it there. The churyself links you to the crime.
• 49:50
  Speaker 4: Why because the balistic expert testify to it, and the
• 49:53
  Speaker 4: medical examiners testified that that was to pull it from
• 49:55
  Speaker 4: the from the gun that was used. So mind yourself
• 49:59
  Speaker 4: and min okase. The domestic expert never tested the gun,
• 50:03
  Speaker 4: but he tests the fire. To my trub the homicide
• 50:06
  Speaker 4: detective buying them say that he tested the gun. Guess what,
• 50:09
  Speaker 4: he never tends the gun to be test fired. So
• 50:11
  Speaker 4: you have been deliberately framed by nothing belized by the
• 50:14
  Speaker 4: barat County, distant Tourney's office, the police department, and the
• 50:17
  Speaker 4: medical examiners officer. So for me to you some I
• 50:21
  Speaker 4: know your police and I am going to do what
• 50:24
  Speaker 4: I can to try to get you to help. And
• 50:26
  Speaker 4: if for anybody's listening to this podcast tonight, we would
• 50:29
  Speaker 4: like to actually for you to join mister Lagate and
• 50:31
  Speaker 4: his fight to seek justice. How why us action for
• 50:35
  Speaker 4: y'all to sign on some petition to the distric Attorney's office,
• 50:38
  Speaker 4: the chief of police, the city mayor and anybody to
• 50:41
  Speaker 4: have them to pull up all the documents related to
• 50:44
  Speaker 4: the weight bouts of the gun, How was test fired,
• 50:47
  Speaker 4: went on, test fired, will test fire and how? And
• 50:50
  Speaker 4: I guarantee you that that stuffing is going to come
• 50:52
  Speaker 4: back proven that it's not the murder work and that
• 50:55
  Speaker 4: it was never removed from a property room, because you've
• 50:57
  Speaker 4: got to have property tax showing that it was removed
• 51:00
  Speaker 4: and that property tag has to be signed by a
• 51:02
  Speaker 4: division commander. If that never happened, mister Legate's case is
• 51:07
  Speaker 4: no good and they would have to give us the
• 51:09
  Speaker 4: legate of loot our that just proved stay whole case
• 51:12
  Speaker 4: right that. Yeah, mister Lagate, I'm sorry to start that
• 51:15
  Speaker 4: just happened to you like this, for I would do
• 51:18
  Speaker 4: what I can. I actually the audience whatever that's supporting this,
• 51:21
  Speaker 4: to support this Legate and see if we can get
• 51:23
  Speaker 4: enough to legated lout by accidents of damn to give
• 51:27
  Speaker 4: us the information about the girl probably tag yes.
• 51:33
  Speaker 5: And all we got.
• 51:35
  Speaker 7: We got nine minutes left. So mister Legate, I'm gonna
• 51:39
  Speaker 7: give you the I'm gonna give you a chance to
• 51:45
  Speaker 7: to say you're a party your uh speech. My my
• 51:49
  Speaker 7: pressure done went up a sky high, cause you know
• 51:51
  Speaker 7: how I give about you, mister Legate. So I'm gonna
• 51:59
  Speaker 7: give you six oh and remarks and then we're gonna
• 52:02
  Speaker 7: shoot back to my cohorts and then I may say
• 52:07
  Speaker 7: a word too. I'm just over here just trying to
• 52:09
  Speaker 7: calm down. You know, I'm just so passionate about this,
• 52:13
  Speaker 7: and I don't like what the justice system is doing.
• 52:18
  Speaker 7: Two our men, our brothers. You know, it's unbelievable. It's unbelievable,
• 52:28
  Speaker 7: mister Legate.
• 52:32
  Speaker 4: Oh thank you, Angela.
• 52:34
  Speaker 6: And let your court know for everything that uh, your
• 52:37
  Speaker 6: your your your suggestions, you're inputing everything, everything that you're doing.
• 52:40
  Speaker 6: I appreciate it. But like I I continue to shave
• 52:44
  Speaker 6: you off. I know, the outside audience. If you have
• 52:48
  Speaker 6: a curiosity, look at the documentary. You don't have to
• 52:51
  Speaker 6: believe in what I say.
• 52:53
  Speaker 4: Look at the evidence for yourself.
• 52:54
  Speaker 17: See what you to see.
• 52:56
  Speaker 6: I mean, if you like like mysteries or mother Streets
• 53:00
  Speaker 6: and get anything to that fashion, look at it. I mean,
• 53:04
  Speaker 6: I've done anything and everything possible I could do. You
• 53:07
  Speaker 6: could just coople my navy people have everything up about
• 53:10
  Speaker 6: my case. You's gonna have the documentary, You're gonna have
• 53:13
  Speaker 6: the stories written.
• 53:14
  Speaker 4: You're gonna you're gonna learned about everything about my case.
• 53:17
  Speaker 4: Formulating the opinion.
• 53:19
  Speaker 7: How you see it?
• 53:21
  Speaker 6: How do you see justice? How do you see the
• 53:23
  Speaker 6: judicial system? Are they write, how they correct them, how
• 53:27
  Speaker 6: they they plagued their head and this you know, I mean,
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  Speaker 6: just think about it, even in and I'm gonna use it.
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  Speaker 6: My Robert Robertson's case where they gave him a thirty
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  Speaker 6: p state. Oh he was trying to be executed from
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  Speaker 6: the murder of his daughter. Well, it has already depumped
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  Speaker 6: the shaking baby sit them she got he was not
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  Speaker 6: post that she died of a pneumonia or some kind
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  Speaker 6: of other illness. The judicial system, how I'm gonna applying
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  Speaker 6: this because even our own building in the state of Texas,
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  Speaker 6: I still want to man convict no matter what the
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  Speaker 6: evidence shows. So can you imagine in my case there
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  Speaker 6: is no evidence now that can support They have to
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  Speaker 6: say it both. I mean to do the because there's
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  Speaker 6: no evidence. The main wisness they used.
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  Speaker 4: To convict me.
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  Speaker 6: His credibility is out the window. Now he's already been
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  Speaker 6: giving community. He's giving the cup charge to dismiss or
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  Speaker 6: testifying the kids be they presented false testimony and they
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  Speaker 6: furst evident everything. So think about it. It's just system works.
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  Speaker 6: We're supposed to be able to have a better impartial trial.
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  Speaker 6: But I don't say it, and that's how I feel,
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  Speaker 6: and I'm praying and maybe one day I can least
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  Speaker 6: be able to walk out this door.
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  Speaker 4: Proven that track, and thank.
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  Speaker 6: You Angela, thank you mich Cornell for having me back,
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  Speaker 6: and audience, and thank you off for giving me the time.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, Okay, go ahead Cornell.
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  Speaker 4: Okay.
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  Speaker 4: tonight on tonight's show. Now boys listen legates story and
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  Speaker 4: all of the stories around here in the state of Texas,
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  Speaker 4: the state of Sicens has a pattern of convicting innocent
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  Speaker 4: people and with this pun of convicted hidsome people, thouars
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  Speaker 4: and thousand because of some men and women are sitting
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  Speaker 5: Okay, and I thank you.
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  Speaker 7: I appreciate you guys for coming on, especially you mister Legate.
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  Speaker 7: listen the listening audience for tuning in today. This is
• 57:16
  Speaker 7: when we talk about injustice. It's very a touching subject.
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  Speaker 6: You know.
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  Speaker 7: Maybe I'm too compassionate or I don't know, but I
• 57:31
  Speaker 7: just don't like to see the wrongness that's happening to anybody.
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  Speaker 7: Any it doesn't I don't care what color you can be,
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  Speaker 7: orange or green. Injustice is, it's an injustice. I'm here
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  Speaker 7: to bring the truth. I want to stand on my troop.
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  Speaker 7: I want to stand up against the truth. You have
• 57:58
  Speaker 7: a lot of people out there that says that they're
• 58:01
  Speaker 7: against injustice, and I keep saying, I keep reaching out
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  Speaker 7: to them. Let's stand together. Let's come together, and we
• 58:09
  Speaker 7: come together. Would be powerful. Our voices will be heard
• 58:15
  Speaker 7: instead of everybody branching off doing whatever. You know, I'm
• 58:19
  Speaker 7: gonna just help this one person and pull them out.
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  Speaker 7: We have it's over nine thousand men and women that's
• 58:30
  Speaker 7: wrongfully incarcerated in the state of Texas. Google it. I did,
• 58:36
  Speaker 7: and it showed me how many people is in there wrongfully.
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  Speaker 7: You just cannot get out, just pull one person out
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  Speaker 7: and go and just leave it alone.
• 58:53
  Speaker 5: When you have.
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  Speaker 7: Nine thousand people in there, more than nine last Come on,
• 59:02
  Speaker 7: you guys, let's get together and let's do something. Let
• 59:06
  Speaker 7: us make our voices heard. I know my husband's gonna
• 59:11
  Speaker 7: call me and he's gonna say, baby, your blood pressure
• 59:13
  Speaker 7: done ran up, so I'm going ahead and end this
• 59:18
  Speaker 7: and finished drinking my water and using my voice. And
• 59:23
  Speaker 7: if you're not using your voice for good, stay in
• 59:27
  Speaker 7: your lane. Don't even say nothing, just like just like
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  Speaker 7: when you guys went out and voted good night and
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  Speaker 4: You good night.
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  Speaker 5: Look uh all right much last, Yeah, we got to
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