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The Late Debate | 12 November · The Late Debate

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  Speaker 1: Late, Welcome the late pays.
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  Speaker 2: Well, good evening, It's great to have your company. I'm
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  Speaker 2: James Macpherson with Liz Storer and filling in for Caleb
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  Speaker 2: Bond Joe Hildebrand.
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  Speaker 3: Coming up.
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  Speaker 2: Beach goers in Western Australia amazed as an emperor penguin
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  Speaker 2: turns up on the sand three and a half thousand
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  Speaker 2: kilometers from home. We'll show you that footage a little later.
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  Speaker 2: Plus when we look at the papers, you'll be shocked
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  Speaker 2: at just how much our public service has expanded since
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  Speaker 2: labor came to power. The Australian newspaper is running with
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  Speaker 2: that tomorrow, and good news for regional Australians with ex
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  Speaker 2: Rex Airlines being thrown a lifeline to keep them flying.
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  Speaker 2: All of that when we look at what's making news tomorrow.
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  Speaker 2: But first, most of us are pretty much aware that
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  Speaker 2: the whole climate change activism is a bit of a circus.
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  Speaker 2: What we may not have appreciated just how many clowns
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  Speaker 2: are involved. A News Limited investigation has found that some
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  Speaker 2: of the loudest bed when it comes to rising sea
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  Speaker 2: levels have actually been investing in waterfront properties. Prime among
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  Speaker 2: them is a Legras spender, the Teal who, according to
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  Speaker 2: the investigation, owns three at risk waterfront properties in New
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  Speaker 2: South Wales. Tony Burke, the Government Minister owns two in Tasmania.
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  Speaker 2: And then there's Climate Change Minister Chris Bowen, who's got
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  Speaker 2: waterfront property in Victoria. I think it is it's near
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  Speaker 2: the ocean, as does teal Zoe Daniel. And of course
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  Speaker 2: then there's the Prime Minister Anthony Elberizi, who recently bought
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  Speaker 2: a beachfront home for four and a bit million dollars. Now,
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  Speaker 2: to be fair, he did buy on the top of
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  Speaker 2: a cliff.
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  Speaker 3: His polling numbers have gone off.
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  Speaker 4: Of reseere you are coming around.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not sure many of these waterfront properties are going
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  Speaker 2: to go under, but I tell you all of these
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  Speaker 2: people's credibility is at the bottom of the ocean. As
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  Speaker 2: Nationals Senator Matt Canavan pointed out brilliantly, he said, you
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  Speaker 2: know you've met a radical climate activist if they have
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  Speaker 2: lots of frequent flyer points, own multiple coastal properties and
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  Speaker 2: they love nothing more than going out for a lovely
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  Speaker 2: nine marble score Wagyu steak.
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  Speaker 3: There are only two options here.
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  Speaker 2: Either these people think we're all stuffed anyway, or they
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  Speaker 2: don't believe the underlying science.
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  Speaker 3: I think it's the latter. Joe and Liz I think
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  Speaker 3: he's right.
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  Speaker 5: Indeed, well, they obviously don't believe what they're saying. There
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  Speaker 5: can be no other interpretation.
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  Speaker 6: That's it laid there.
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  Speaker 5: You don't believe the science, why are you science deniers?
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  Speaker 5: Are you guys climate change deniers? Why else would you
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  Speaker 5: buy these waterfront properties?
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  Speaker 6: Although it does.
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  Speaker 5: Bear mentioning that in quite a few of the stats
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  Speaker 5: also listed with regard to these particular beachfronts, a lot
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  Speaker 5: of them aren't supposed to be underwater till say, two thousand,
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  Speaker 5: one hundred, So maybe they just figure, well, it's not
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  Speaker 5: going to happen in my lifetime, so I'm just got
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  Speaker 5: to enjoy the scenery. But obviously this is sheer hippocryphate,
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  Speaker 5: see when it's being done by the very people who
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  Speaker 5: are implementing the policies that mean that you've got to
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  Speaker 5: suck on soggy paper straws to save the planet. You
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  Speaker 5: should be paying some sort of carbon offset. If you're flying,
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  Speaker 5: please do buy a car that doesn't require petrol, because
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  Speaker 5: that's supposed to help. Even though we've explained to you
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  Speaker 5: ad nauseum, how it's actually not better for the environment, etc.
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  Speaker 6: Etc.
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  Speaker 5: And so on, Please pay ten times more on your
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  Speaker 5: energy bill.
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  Speaker 6: The list goes on. So the irony is that if.
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  Speaker 5: This was just an everyday climate activist who said that
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  Speaker 5: they were passionate about the cause, but that wasn't reflected
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  Speaker 5: in their everyday life.
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  Speaker 6: That's one thing.
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  Speaker 5: These are the people who make the rules, who are
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  Speaker 5: paying out on these fossil fuel companies and everything called gas,
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  Speaker 5: everything oil is now evil and we are seeing this
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  Speaker 5: massive transfer of wealth. Whenever you see a transfer of wealth,
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  Speaker 5: these massive, it is time to ask serious questions because
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  Speaker 5: it's never good. You only see it during wartime, you
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  Speaker 5: only see it during.
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  Speaker 6: A pandemic, and you definitely.
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  Speaker 5: See it when we are talking about upending the energy
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  Speaker 5: source for the entire Western wealth.
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  Speaker 4: You've messed another possibility, though, There's a third possibility, which
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  Speaker 4: is maybe these guys really do believe the science and
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  Speaker 4: they're desperately trying to shore up the value of their
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  Speaker 4: real estate assets. Maybe it's just complete and out of
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  Speaker 4: self interest. Maybe these guys are the ultimate neoliberals. That's
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  Speaker 4: just yes, pure pure profit. My property is being threatened
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  Speaker 4: my potential return on investment is being threatened. Therefore I must.
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  Speaker 5: Get emissions down to save That's right.
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  Speaker 4: They're trying to get the entire world to lower its
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  Speaker 4: emissions so that their absolute beachfront property doesn't lose a
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  Speaker 4: couple of hun Gg's in value.
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  Speaker 3: I'm sure that's much better, Joe.
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  Speaker 4: No, but it's a third possibility that affect again there
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  Speaker 4: if there were you know, if they were really smart,
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  Speaker 4: the rest of the country, you know, I can understand,
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  Speaker 4: but the Sydney side is I'm a bit disappointed with
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  Speaker 4: because if they were really smart, they'd be buying houses
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  Speaker 4: one block back from the beach for a song and
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  Speaker 4: they're just waiting.
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  Speaker 2: Well, they're not the only clowns involved in this whole caper.
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  Speaker 2: We've just learned that Australia has a climate ambassador.
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  Speaker 5: You've only just learned that I didn't realize we had.
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  Speaker 5: Because he's such an important issue, mac that we can't
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  Speaker 5: just have a climate change minister I e. Chris Bowen foreigner,
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  Speaker 5: we mean an ambassador as well, because if nothing else,
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  Speaker 5: it's to massage the importance of this issue into.
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  Speaker 6: The public psyche.
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  Speaker 5: So you go, if they've got an ambassador and a minister.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, this must be really serious. Drop what you're
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  Speaker 5: doing and address this issue. But as you're about to
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  Speaker 5: tell us, this hasn't gone so.
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  Speaker 6: Well in recent days.
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  Speaker 5: Given recent revelations as to what said ambassador has.
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  Speaker 2: Been up well, I mean, I think we can all
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  Speaker 2: guess what said ambassador has been up to. She's been
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  Speaker 2: flying all over the world, because apparently the fight to
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  Speaker 2: reduce emissions requires a climate ambassador to fly all over
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  Speaker 2: the world and therefore be primarily responsible for increasing emissions.
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  Speaker 2: Kristin Tilley was appointed by the Albanesi government to be
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  Speaker 2: our climate diplomat, and she, over the last two years
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  Speaker 2: has undertaken twenty international trips at a cost of two
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  Speaker 2: hundred and seventy five thousand dollars to the taxpayers. It's
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  Speaker 2: difficult business being a climate diplomat. She's had to go
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  Speaker 2: to New York for nine days at a cost of
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  Speaker 2: twenty seven thousand dollars, to Malta, to Switzerland, to Denmark.
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  Speaker 3: To Belgium, to Fiji.
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  Speaker 2: She had to go to the Mold Dives of course,
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  Speaker 2: to Vanuatu into the UK.
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  Speaker 3: It amazes me that they never have to go to
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  Speaker 3: No Bangladesh.
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  Speaker 7: Sure.
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  Speaker 4: Is like, we're right here.
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  Speaker 3: Come on, I have to go to those places.
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  Speaker 4: Give us COP twenty seven.
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  Speaker 2: But don't worry it'll be okay, because I'm sure any
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  Speaker 2: moment now the Albanezy government will shut down one hundred
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  Speaker 2: fossil fuel projects and a thousand farms to offset her
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  Speaker 2: carbon emissions. James Stevens, who's the opposition waste spokesperson, said quote,
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  Speaker 2: it's staggering to see how much carbon dioxide the Australian
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  Speaker 2: government is emitting. In pursuit of reducing carbon dioxide emissions.
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  Speaker 2: Our ambassador for climate change could be setting an example,
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  Speaker 2: but instead is spewing out fuel emissions on monthly international trips.
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  Speaker 2: The irony and hypocrisy is astounding and scandalous. Joe, have
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  Speaker 2: these people not heard of zoom or I don't?
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  Speaker 4: Also, COVID is airborne? What are you doing out in
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  Speaker 4: the world? Come on, guys, I heard that at the
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  Speaker 4: Marxist conference. Seriously, they're all still marked up. Literally, it's
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  Speaker 4: an anegi. It's like Marxists, it's.
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  Speaker 2: A physical explain why we need a ambassador.
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  Speaker 4: What I have that absolutely no idea? Like you, I
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  Speaker 4: had no idea, we actually had one. I suspect the
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  Speaker 4: PM himself probably didn't know that we had one. If
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  Speaker 4: you look at the if you look at the quotes
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  Speaker 4: in the article, it always says, you know, the government
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  Speaker 4: announced that, the government said this, and that the government
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  Speaker 4: said this. Now, any announcement that a government ever makes
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  Speaker 4: that is seen to be even remotely good, the PM
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  Speaker 4: takes right. So the PM takes every single announcement, every
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  Speaker 4: single portfolio that the government thinks is good news or
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  Speaker 4: labor if it was in opposition thinks is a good policy. Right,
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  Speaker 4: and that's the deal, and that's fair enough, and that's
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  Speaker 4: as it should be. The PM is nowhere near this.
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  Speaker 4: I had no idea that I reckon. This was something
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  Speaker 4: that must have been announced on a very low key basis,
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  Speaker 4: probably very targeted digitally in seats where they were worried
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  Speaker 4: about the Greens winning, like those three Brisbane seats and
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  Speaker 4: inn City seats where they're trying to shore up their
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  Speaker 4: climate credentials. So this is an amazing kind of debut,
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  Speaker 4: if you like, of the our new climate change ambassador
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  Speaker 4: sort of striding onto the stage. The big question for
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  Speaker 4: me is were any of these flights business class? If
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  Speaker 4: you divide, if you divide two hundred and sixty two
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  Speaker 4: hundred and fifty seven thousand by twenty you get about
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  Speaker 4: thirteen thousand bucks per trip. Now I'm not sure if
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  Speaker 4: this includes staff she's taken with her or accommodation or
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  Speaker 4: accommodation obviously would include acommodation, but again, you know that
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  Speaker 4: does seem to be quite a bit of money. And
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  Speaker 4: if you are flying business class, and of course anyone
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  Speaker 4: who is in the Chairman's lounge, and if this ambassador
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  Speaker 4: is in the chairman's lounge, she would get automatically upgraded
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  Speaker 4: to business class if there was a seat available. I'm
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  Speaker 4: pretty sure Chairbell chairman's lounge like to get all the
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  Speaker 4: most important people in. So either she's not very important
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  Speaker 4: and no one actually knows who she is, or she
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  Speaker 4: isn't she's in the Chairman's I don't know, but you
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  Speaker 4: would get an automatic upgrade to business class whenever in
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  Speaker 4: the chairman's lounge. As we know, as so many MPs
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  Speaker 4: on both sides of politics have been doing, including a
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  Speaker 4: few on the left, and according to a number of websites,
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  Speaker 4: including one called Climate Action Accelerator, a business class seat
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  Speaker 4: it emits or has a carbon footprint of three times
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  Speaker 4: what an economy class set does. So if any of
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  Speaker 4: these flights involved business class travel or business class upgrades,
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  Speaker 4: then the climate change ambassador would be increasing her carbon
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  Speaker 4: footprint three times what it would have been if she
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  Speaker 4: had just sat up in the back of pie and
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  Speaker 4: I I said, anyone, who what is she.
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  Speaker 6: Supposed to do?
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  Speaker 5: Though, because we know that you can't fight climate change
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  Speaker 5: without attempting these lavish events or well fromits these jamborees
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  Speaker 5: where they all get together and push down further on
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  Speaker 5: the little guy, on you and me. You can't fight
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  Speaker 5: climate change without undertaking some of the most carbon intense activities.
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  Speaker 6: On the face of the planet.
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  Speaker 5: Ladies and gentlemen, and just lastly on this story, you've
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  Speaker 5: got to appreciate that we aren't supposed to know this.
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  Speaker 6: We only found.
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  Speaker 5: Out because James Stephens said opposite opposition government waste spokesman,
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  Speaker 5: can we make that a minister next time I think
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  Speaker 5: a waste.
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  Speaker 4: And they're actually doing the waste, we know.
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  Speaker 6: We need one in government.
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  Speaker 5: I mean he put in an FI freedom of information.
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  Speaker 6: He wanted to know just what is this woman doing?
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  Speaker 5: We don't know what her salary is, but he wanted
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  Speaker 5: to find out how much bung we were bang we
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  Speaker 5: were getting for our buck and found out in fact
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  Speaker 5: she's just massively spurging on all this nonsense that's not
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  Speaker 5: doing anything.
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  Speaker 3: You got it right the first time. This there's no bang.
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  Speaker 3: There's a lot of bug.
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  Speaker 5: There's a lot of bug for our buck and exit
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  Speaker 5: of bungs.
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  Speaker 4: No, there's no bug for your bong in the green
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  Speaker 4: industry anyway. And speaking of greens, by the way, all
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  Speaker 4: things greeny, this is another look just from my hometown. God,
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  Speaker 4: I love this guy, Chris Means. Have you ever heard
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  Speaker 4: of him, Liz fantastic blug. I think you'd really like
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  Speaker 4: him if you ever stopped talking about baby it would
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  Speaker 4: incredibly Hands've got the best cheek bones in Australia and
• 12:02
  Speaker 4: is also the Premier of New South Wales and they
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  Speaker 4: have just announced yet more penalties, more penalties for climate
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  Speaker 4: activists who disrupt major public infrastructure. This time they're coming
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  Speaker 4: at them for the trains and of course we know
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  Speaker 4: that they try to block coal trains bringing coal from
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  Speaker 4: the port of Newcastle for example, to the rest of
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  Speaker 4: the state and the country. And this is what Attorney
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  Speaker 4: General Michael Day had to say about these noodle armed little.
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  Speaker 8: Nimbi's there is a right to peaceful assembly in New
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  Speaker 8: South Wales. We want to preserve that there is a
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  Speaker 8: right to protest in New South Wales. We want to
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  Speaker 8: preserve that Chaining yourself to a rail line, gluing yourself
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  Speaker 8: to Stonycreek Road, hanging off the Harbor bridge, blocking the
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  Speaker 8: Harbor tunnel with the truck, these are all species of
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  Speaker 8: behavior that we say on behalf of the good citizens
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  Speaker 8: of New South Wales cannot be tolerated.
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  Speaker 4: I have no idea what he said just then, because
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  Speaker 4: I was looking at the guy behind him. God, he's
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  Speaker 4: so handsome. Anyway, You've now got a twenty two thousand
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  Speaker 4: dollars fine for anyone who blocks trains or railway lines
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  Speaker 4: and they will be introduced into Parliament on Tuesday today.
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  Speaker 4: That's right, That's exactly right. And also you will have
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  Speaker 4: potentially a two years jail time and it will apply
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  Speaker 4: across the state. And get this, it's also going to
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  Speaker 4: apply to light rail services.
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  Speaker 6: No way.
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  Speaker 4: Look, I do tain yourself to tram cactus green boy.
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  Speaker 5: I don't quite get this one, because the current punishment
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  Speaker 5: for you trying to stop a train, which they successfully
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  Speaker 5: did for two weeks back in June July and again
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  Speaker 5: in September nine, activists stopped a cold train because that's
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  Speaker 5: how they've been told they can save the planet. So
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  Speaker 5: the current punishment is up to two years in jail already,
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  Speaker 5: So the Men's government has just slapped a possible twenty
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  Speaker 5: two thousand dollars fine on top of that. So now
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  Speaker 5: if you are give of set offence, you will either
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  Speaker 5: or go to jail for a maximum of two years
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  Speaker 5: and or pay out twenty two thousand dollars. I don't
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  Speaker 5: see the point in adding a fee here because goodness
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  Speaker 5: knows that the vast majority of these activists are.
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  Speaker 6: Either unemployed or.
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  Speaker 5: Don't have a wage worth speaking of. They're not exactly
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  Speaker 5: wealthy people that turn out and take up these kinds
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  Speaker 5: of extremist shenanigans.
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  Speaker 6: We've seen this before.
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  Speaker 5: And say, look, you can slap me with a fine,
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  Speaker 5: but goodness, I'm.
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  Speaker 6: Like trying to sue someone who's bankrupt.
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  Speaker 4: Fun going after them, making them rock up to court
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  Speaker 4: and be or miserable. Farm has to bail them out.
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  Speaker 2: As you can imagine, the climate catastrophists are up in
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  Speaker 2: arms about these new penalties. Environmentalists have described it as
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  Speaker 2: a rampage against free speech. No one's stopping their free speech.
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  Speaker 2: They're just saying you can't say what you want to
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  Speaker 2: say in the middle of a train track.
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  Speaker 4: Although there was a terribly embarrassing incident where a group
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  Speaker 4: of environmental activists tried to block jazz saxophonist John Coltrane,
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  Speaker 4: and that no one knows who John Coltrane is.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not familiar with that, Jesse.
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  Speaker 6: Assuming we need a golf clap, we need something you.
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  Speaker 4: Have never heard of it.
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  Speaker 3: Charlie Parker, Billy Joel Elton, John.
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  Speaker 2: My god New South Wales Green spokesperson Kobe Schetty, she
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  Speaker 2: said it was a shameful attack on the right to protest.
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  Speaker 2: But this, no one's impeding their freedom of speech. No
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: one is stopping them from protesting. You want them to
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: stand right by the railway line, just exactly.
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  Speaker 5: The rules around protesting are actually very simple. I leart
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  Speaker 5: this in my master's Degree of Human Rights. Basically, if
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  Speaker 5: you're not stopping anyone from going about their lawful business,
• 15:51
  Speaker 5: legal protest, go right ahead. If you are stopping people
• 15:54
  Speaker 5: from going about their lawful business, like I don't know,
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  Speaker 5: a train staying on the tracks and just ending up
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  Speaker 5: where it's supposed to go, not legal protest and you
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  Speaker 5: will be penalized as you should be. To the States
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  Speaker 5: now where everyone's not favorite. Ex Prime Minister, as we know,
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  Speaker 5: is Australia's ambassador to the United States of America.
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  Speaker 6: Rudd, even before he was given.
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  Speaker 5: The post of ambassadorship to our closest and dearest and
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  Speaker 5: most valuable ally, had already called Trump a political liability,
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  Speaker 5: a problem for the world. Are traited to the West.
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  Speaker 5: The list goes on, So.
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  Speaker 6: It's pretty bad news for the guy.
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  Speaker 5: Now that this little clip from a webinar he once
• 16:40
  Speaker 5: did with an Indian MP has come back to light
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  Speaker 5: to remind everyone he's no friend to President Trump.
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  Speaker 9: The United States in the last four years has been
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  Speaker 9: run by a village idios. People have seen China continued
• 16:58
  Speaker 9: continuing to be competent international state craft and the United
• 17:02
  Speaker 9: States increasingly incompetent and international state craft under Trump.
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  Speaker 5: Well, Albanizi has come out defending his friend Rudd for
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  Speaker 5: the second time in two weeks.
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  Speaker 6: There was speculation before.
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  Speaker 5: Trump won the election that Rudd should go in the
• 17:19
  Speaker 5: event Trump did win the election, given all of the
• 17:23
  Speaker 5: disparaging things he's said about the guy, it stands to
• 17:27
  Speaker 5: reason we can do better for our closest ally, it
• 17:30
  Speaker 5: would be really nice to have someone over there who
• 17:33
  Speaker 5: actually backed the now president, leader of the free world.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know what Albanize is thinking doing this, because
• 17:41
  Speaker 5: the more he defends Rudd, which is quite indefensible. At
• 17:46
  Speaker 5: this point, Trump has won. Now we're past the speculation stage.
• 17:51
  Speaker 5: Stop defending him and stop waiting for Trump to actually
• 17:55
  Speaker 5: call us and say, hey.
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  Speaker 6: Heard this guy's pretty nasty.
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  Speaker 5: As he told fera weeks ago, Hurd is not the
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  Speaker 5: brightest bulb either.
• 18:03
  Speaker 6: That was a direct Trumpian quote.
• 18:06
  Speaker 5: We also heard from Lara Trump, his daughter in Laura,
• 18:09
  Speaker 5: just days before the election, saying that if Trump won,
• 18:13
  Speaker 5: he would be looking to Australia to appoint somebody else.
• 18:16
  Speaker 5: So why are we waiting for the embarrassment of having
• 18:19
  Speaker 5: the Trump administration pick up the phone to us and
• 18:21
  Speaker 5: say this guy is clearly not fit for purpose. I'm
• 18:24
  Speaker 5: president now, Why aren't we doing the honorable thing and saying, yes,
• 18:29
  Speaker 5: it's quite obvious this is not fit anymore. Let's just
• 18:34
  Speaker 5: change things up and send someone who is worthy of
• 18:38
  Speaker 5: the most important ambassadorship that we have.
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Look, I think that's a very fair question. I think,
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: firstly in terms of the sort of personal politics of it,
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: Anthony Albinezi is someone who's very loyal and we've sent
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: him lose political skill.
• 18:50
  Speaker 6: We don't care about that. We care about our eric.
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: If you want to know why he's doing it, I'm
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: just telling you that that's part of the room.
• 18:56
  Speaker 6: That's another one.
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: Another one is that part of the reason that Kevin
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: Rudd was sent to the US and made ambassador was
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: to stop him from tweeting. This is a guy that
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: was all over Twitter like a cheap suit. He was
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: calling for Murdock Royal commission, he was settling scores with
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: old enemies. And again it's part of the kind.
• 19:14
  Speaker 5: Of doesn't all of that scream to you bad choice?
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: And then in terms so I suppose you in deciding
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: whether or not to sack him or bring him recall him,
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: the question is by doing that, do you end up
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: making these historic Twitter might seem worse than they are
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: and end up just roaring attention to it and making
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: them seem so agreeable than they are possible that the
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: only possible recourse is to withdraw the ambassador. So I
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: think what the government will be thinking. I don't know,
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: but well I do know, I know everything, but what
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: the government would be thinking. At what Albanezi would be thinking.
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: And this is not based on what he's told me,
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: but he would be thinking, right. I just want this
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: to blow over, these deleted tweets. Trump has had that
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: many people saying that many main things about him over
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: the years.
• 20:05
  Speaker 5: It's not an ambassador who has the massive status and
• 20:10
  Speaker 5: enjoys all the benefits.
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: Very stupid major before he was ambassador.
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: You're suggesting that they don't want to make Trump is
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: the most destructive president in history. He's dragged democracy and
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: America through the mud. Seem worse than it is.
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: Again, and these are really stupid comments, and they actually
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: show the man's irony of people who have the humors
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: to think that they're the smartest people in the room
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: and smarter than everybody else actually be too stupid to
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: think or realize that Donald Trump is actually But the.
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: Problem the gummy is Albanese. You mentioned irony.
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: I think the problem is a whole political culture that thought, oh,
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: Donald Trump's dead forever, we can say whatever we want.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: Well, that's true, but back in twenty seventeen, right, Anthony
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: Elberze said, and we've seen this on video over the
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: last few days. I think it's a concern the leader
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: of the free world. He's talking about Donald Trump. Think
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: you can conduct policy through one hundred and forty characters
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: on Twitter. So the irony is just a few years ago.
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: Albanesi's worried about Trump tweeting and saying, I don't know
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: if you could have a president who.
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: Tweets like that. Now his ambassador in America is busy deleting.
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: His twitt Trump's rud Trump has a history of being
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: very magnanimous to people have been critty. His vice president
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: was one of his biggest critics until he sort of
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: saw the light. So I think if if obviously Albanzi
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: and Trump have already spoken on the phone, I am sure,
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: And I think the PM absolutely should take the initiative
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: and go to visit Trump, either with or without.
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: He said he won't Kevin or.
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: Well, we'll see, but but that is something that he
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: definitely should do. And I think if Kevin Rudd kisses
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: the ring, so to speak, there is no reason why
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: everything shouldn't be tickety boo. And again, Trump has a.
• 21:48
  Speaker 5: I don't believe that at all, because Trump values loyalty
• 21:52
  Speaker 5: very much.
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: He's not going to make He's not going to make
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: Kevin Rudd's Secretary of Stuff.
• 21:57
  Speaker 6: So he was convinced that a side.
• 22:00
  Speaker 7: Right.
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: He's not going to pick anyone his own side.
• 22:04
  Speaker 5: We should be able to recognize when it comes to Rudd,
• 22:06
  Speaker 5: he for us here in Australia, with our closest ally,
• 22:10
  Speaker 5: he's a liability. He's bad news for our relationship with
• 22:14
  Speaker 5: the States, and we can do so much better.
• 22:17
  Speaker 6: It's as simple as that.
• 22:19
  Speaker 5: And tell you who agrees with me that would be
• 22:21
  Speaker 5: PM if we get our way next year, mister Peter.
• 22:24
  Speaker 10: Dutton, the ambassador has to have a functional working relationship
• 22:29
  Speaker 10: with the administration, whether that's a Democrat or Republican administration.
• 22:33
  Speaker 10: Of course, it's not just mister RhoD I mean, we're
• 22:34
  Speaker 10: talking about mister Albinisi and Senator Wong and others in
• 22:39
  Speaker 10: the Labor Party who have seen fit to criticize, to
• 22:42
  Speaker 10: criticize President elect Trump here.
• 22:45
  Speaker 5: Here, Well, I'll tell you who knows the importance of
• 22:48
  Speaker 5: getting the right man in the job, and that is
• 22:50
  Speaker 5: President Trump, who has finally picked the new border czar.
• 22:56
  Speaker 5: As we know the former one under the Biden administration
• 22:59
  Speaker 5: was Kamala Harris herself, and we saw over ten million
• 23:03
  Speaker 5: illegals pour over the southern border.
• 23:07
  Speaker 6: It has crippled their economy.
• 23:09
  Speaker 5: Look taking care of all of these illegals, putting them
• 23:13
  Speaker 5: up in hotels, making sure they've got accommodation and food
• 23:17
  Speaker 5: and all the rest of the things that you need
• 23:19
  Speaker 5: to live.
• 23:20
  Speaker 6: Well.
• 23:20
  Speaker 5: His name is Tom Homan, and here he was speaking
• 23:24
  Speaker 5: at the RNC conference a couple of weeks ago, longer
• 23:28
  Speaker 5: than that would have been, closer to a month prior
• 23:30
  Speaker 5: to the election, telling those illegals what they can expect
• 23:35
  Speaker 5: if indeed Trump took the White House.
• 23:38
  Speaker 11: I got a message, as a guy who spent thirty
• 23:42
  Speaker 11: four years deporting illegal aliens, I got a message to
• 23:47
  Speaker 11: demands of illegal Alians that Joe Bidens are released in
• 23:49
  Speaker 11: our country and violation of federal law, you better start
• 23:52
  Speaker 11: packing now.
• 23:56
  Speaker 5: And this guy is straight out of the gate telling
• 23:59
  Speaker 5: Fox Use exactly what he plans to do in order
• 24:03
  Speaker 5: to crack down not only on the illegals in the country,
• 24:06
  Speaker 5: but the over three hundred thousand children that were lost
• 24:11
  Speaker 5: in that ginormous wave of illegal immigration and suspected to
• 24:16
  Speaker 5: now be embroiled in illegal workshops and even child sex trafficking.
• 24:23
  Speaker 7: Where does the operations have to happen? Here's why I
• 24:26
  Speaker 7: see where do we find most victims of sex trafficking
• 24:30
  Speaker 7: and forced labor trafficking at work sites? And Biden administration
• 24:34
  Speaker 7: shut down first lights on one point. We say we
• 24:37
  Speaker 7: care about sex trafficking and human trafficking, then to shut
• 24:40
  Speaker 7: down work land enforcement, which is one of the main
• 24:42
  Speaker 7: areas we find the victims of this. I want to
• 24:44
  Speaker 7: add one more thing, another priority. This administration has lost
• 24:48
  Speaker 7: over three hundred thousand children that were smuggling as touched
• 24:51
  Speaker 7: by criminal cartels they can't find. That's another priority. We
• 24:54
  Speaker 7: need to save these children. To some of these children
• 24:56
  Speaker 7: in forced labor, some of these children on sex trafficking,
• 25:00
  Speaker 7: children living wife or hell every day, when do you
• 25:02
  Speaker 7: say to these children, get them back of their families.
• 25:05
  Speaker 6: I love him, I love him already. Thank you, Tom Whoman.
• 25:09
  Speaker 6: Let's get this show on the road.
• 25:11
  Speaker 5: Check out what he had to say to a sixty
• 25:14
  Speaker 5: minutes reporter who was asking him, well, aren't you going
• 25:17
  Speaker 5: to be breaking up families by deporting illegals? He said,
• 25:22
  Speaker 5: I got We have seen one estimate that says it
• 25:24
  Speaker 5: would cost eighty eight billion dollars to deport a million.
• 25:28
  Speaker 6: People a year.
• 25:31
  Speaker 11: I don't know if that's occured or not.
• 25:33
  Speaker 6: Is that what American taxpayers should expect?
• 25:36
  Speaker 11: What price do you put on national security? Is that
• 25:38
  Speaker 11: worth it?
• 25:39
  Speaker 12: Is there a way to carry out mass deportation without
• 25:42
  Speaker 12: separating families?
• 25:44
  Speaker 11: Of course, yes, families can be deported together.
• 25:51
  Speaker 5: This solution is simple, lady, We'll keep them together, We'll
• 25:54
  Speaker 5: send them all home. I love his response to well,
• 25:59
  Speaker 5: like this, there's been a report that says this would
• 26:02
  Speaker 5: cost eighty billion dollars. He's like, well, what is that
• 26:05
  Speaker 5: even based on I'm not grazing that with an answer, really,
• 26:08
  Speaker 5: And also I would have wandered him to address the
• 26:11
  Speaker 5: issue of well, having them stay here is going to
• 26:15
  Speaker 5: cost even more of that. We're already leaking billions of
• 26:19
  Speaker 5: dollars American taxpayer dollars on illegals who do not belong
• 26:23
  Speaker 5: in the country, added up over a few years. And
• 26:25
  Speaker 5: there's your eighty billion right there.
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: This is the guy who's going to handle the southern
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: and northern borders.
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: America is back.
• 26:32
  Speaker 6: Oh.
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: This guy's a former New York police officer and former
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: border officer.
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: He used to head up ICE and he's seen it.
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: He's got form. And during the Obama administration he was
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: charged with initiating deportations and did a great job. In fact,
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: he was given an award by the administration back in
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: twenty thirteen. So he loves his job. He was wanting
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: to come back to do this, and I just like
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: the fact that you won't be manipulated. I love the
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: way he handled that sixty minutes interview. Is that a
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: price that you'd be willing to pay? He just responded, Well,
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: what price do you put on national security? He handled
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: it beautifully, as he handled beautifully Democrat Darling Alexandria Acasio Cortes,
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: who said, as you would expect the left to say
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: when they talk about deportations, but what about the children?
• 27:25
  Speaker 13: Zero tolerance was interpreted as the policy that separated children
• 27:29
  Speaker 13: from there.
• 27:29
  Speaker 11: If I get arrested for DUI and I have a
• 27:31
  Speaker 11: young child in a car, I won't be separated. When
• 27:33
  Speaker 11: I was a police officer in New York and I
• 27:35
  Speaker 11: arrested a father for domestic violence, I separated that.
• 27:38
  Speaker 13: Mister, all too respect. Legal assyls are not charged with.
• 27:44
  Speaker 11: Any crime when you're in the country. I legalist violation
• 27:48
  Speaker 11: eight United States Cold thirteen to twenty five.
• 27:50
  Speaker 13: Seeking asylum is legal.
• 27:52
  Speaker 11: Do you want to seecresilmon to go through the port
• 27:54
  Speaker 11: of entry? Do it the legal way. The Attorney General
• 27:57
  Speaker 11: of the United States has made that clear.
• 27:59
  Speaker 6: Okay, that is.
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: A textbook example of one person dealing in facts and
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: the other person dealing in feelings. And I don't need
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: to tell you who ultimately triumphs.
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: He's good, and.
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: He is good, and I've got a feeling that he's
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: going to conduct all his duties while riding a horse.
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: But what it speaks, that's right. I mean, this guy
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: is like it's just like he's a gunslinger. He's Walker
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: Texas Ranger in real life. But it speaks more too.
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: And again, maybe we saw it a bit with the
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: sixty minutes questions, maybe we saw it more with AOC
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: But this actually speaks to the whole reason why the
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: Democrats just had their asses handed to them at the
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: last election. Now, the one demographic that is hurt the
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: most by unchecked illegal immigration is poor working people, low
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: skilled and unskilled low paid workers. And that is overwhelmingly
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: in and as we've seen him surprised price. Where was
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: the biggest turnaround, the biggest demographic that turnaround and voted
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: for Donald Trump. In the case of the men, first
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: time ever he got a majority Latinos Hispanics. So these
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: were people who were not voting along racial lines as
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: the Democrats expected them to, because identity politics is fundamentally
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: most outrageously racist, eugenicist prism of thinking you're Latino, you're
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: going to vote for us, or seventy percent of you will,
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: or whatever it was, or you're black, you're going to
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: vote for us. And another big shift that we saw
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: more black voters coming, black mail voters coming to Donald Trump. Again,
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: these are the demographics that are the most likely to
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: be in low paid, underpaid work, and unskilled work. And
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: these are the people whose jobs are most at threat
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: by illeglim coming in, working on the brand market, working
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: in the cash economy, working for rich people, like many
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: of the people who now dominate the Democrats and dominate
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: the liberal East of West Coast media in America. And
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: these people just cannot see it. They cannot see that
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: by waving the flag and showing how holier than they
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: are they are about these people coming in and It
• 30:07
  Speaker 4: is just showing how holy of them that they are
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: because they're not the ones dealing with them. They're not ones.
• 30:10
  Speaker 5: Pretty much.
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: When they come to the northeastern New England states, suddenly
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: they go oh no, no, not.
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: Here, no, not here.
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: It's like when you try to build an apartment block
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: in Mossman. Oh, we support the housing crisis, but it's
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: just not here. Oh we support asylum, says, but oh no,
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: not in Martha's Vineyard. And it is this is the
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: reason why the Dems lost in Landslide. They were not
• 30:31
  Speaker 4: representing the interests of working people. And it's actually pretty
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: clear they didn't even know or care what the interests
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: of working people were, because if they realized that, they'd
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: realize that the biggest threat to low income, you know,
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: Hispanic workers in America legally is low income, low skilled
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: Hispanic workers and entering America illegally. But because they see everything,
• 30:53
  Speaker 4: you know, it's almost not an exaggeration to say that
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: they are so absolutely racist in their virtue. To them,
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: they just all.
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: Look the same.
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: They're all just oh, they're all just Hispanics. They'll all
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: just vote for US legal and that's a disgusting way
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: to look at people you want to you know, you
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: want to look at you know, you wouldn't look at,
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: you know, Charles Manson and Ronald Reagan and say, oh,
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: they're both white. They're probably going to vote the same way,
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: or they probably have the same values. This is this
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: is the this is why this result is and must
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: be the death of identity politics once.
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: And for all.
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: And the other thing that will be interesting is to
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: see here in Australia whether the Albanezy government wakes up
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: to the fact that you can't get immigration and borders wrong,
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: otherwise you'll be punished at the ballot box. The other
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: thing you shouldn't get wrong is freedom of speech, something
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: Trump is determined to address his Donald Trump talking about
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: just that.
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: If we don't have free speech, then we just don't
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: have a free country. It's as simple as that. If
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: this most fundamental rate is allowed to perish, then the
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: rest of our rights and liberties will topple, just like dominoes.
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: One by one, they'll go down. That's why today I'm
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: announcing my plan to shatter the left wing censorship resume,
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: and to reclaim the right to free speech for all Americans.
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: He goes on to talk about the fact that he
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: will ban federal agencies from talking about misinformation and trying
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: to cramp down on dis information.
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: JD.
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: Vance went as far as saying America's allies should also
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: respect freedom of speech, or otherwise the United States might
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: be reluctant to deal with them.
• 32:34
  Speaker 14: It's insane that we would support a military alliance if
• 32:38
  Speaker 14: that military alliance isn't.
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: Going to be pro free speech.
• 32:40
  Speaker 14: I think we can do both, but we've got to
• 32:42
  Speaker 14: say American power comes with certain strings attached. One of
• 32:45
  Speaker 14: those is respect free speech, especially in our European allies. Like, look,
• 32:50
  Speaker 14: I'm not going to go to some backwoods country and
• 32:52
  Speaker 14: tell them how to live their lives. But European countries
• 32:55
  Speaker 14: should theoretically share American values, especially about some very basic
• 33:00
  Speaker 14: things like free speech.
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: So this, this is incredible.
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: Here we are sitting in Australia watching the president elect
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: and his vice president elect saying we are going to
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: protect free speech. This misinformation, disinformation, it's rubbish.
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: We're not going to stand.
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: For it, and neither are we going to allow our
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: allies to stand for it. Meanwhile, here in Australia, what's happening.
• 33:21
  Speaker 5: We're having our hearings help Parliament's talking about.
• 33:25
  Speaker 6: The very same thing, only they're doing the opposite. They're
• 33:29
  Speaker 6: all about censorship.
• 33:30
  Speaker 5: We haven't stopped talking about their misinformation disinformation bill. They
• 33:34
  Speaker 5: say that this bill is going to combat it. Well,
• 33:38
  Speaker 5: quite a few people speaking to the hearing happening in
• 33:41
  Speaker 5: Parliament just yesterday seem to have a very different idea
• 33:46
  Speaker 5: about what this.
• 33:47
  Speaker 6: Bill was going to do.
• 33:50
  Speaker 5: Here's Akma Representative though, James Krishold saying no, No, I
• 33:56
  Speaker 5: think everyone is misunderstanding what this bill is about actually
• 34:00
  Speaker 5: going to protect human rights.
• 34:05
  Speaker 12: The bill actually strengthens human rights protections for the reasons
• 34:09
  Speaker 12: that mister Hole's outline by strengthening and ensuring the online
• 34:15
  Speaker 12: environment minimizes or prevents information that would in fact have
• 34:23
  Speaker 12: those serious consequences to the range of rights that mister
• 34:27
  Speaker 12: Hole's outline, including in relation to individual safety and health
• 34:31
  Speaker 12: and well being, and to the sort of the rights
• 34:38
  Speaker 12: that are there spelled out. So we think that they
• 34:42
  Speaker 12: actually go a long way to helping to protect human
• 34:44
  Speaker 12: rights rather than the minimize them.
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: That's a great sold Kamala Harris would be presiding.
• 34:51
  Speaker 6: She would, I think she's envious.
• 34:52
  Speaker 5: James Christiaal just a you know, humble master's degree in
• 34:56
  Speaker 5: human rights.
• 34:57
  Speaker 6: Right here? What are you talking about? Okay?
• 35:00
  Speaker 5: It is not a human right to be comfortable. It
• 35:04
  Speaker 5: is not a human right to never be offended. It
• 35:07
  Speaker 5: is not a human right not to be challenged. It's
• 35:10
  Speaker 5: not even a human right not to be insulted or
• 35:13
  Speaker 5: to be confronted with information or someone's opinion that might
• 35:17
  Speaker 5: make you feel squeamish inside. What on earth are you
• 35:21
  Speaker 5: talking about when you're talking about human rights? It simply
• 35:25
  Speaker 5: doesn't make sense. But to a massive bugbear of mine, you.
• 35:29
  Speaker 6: Would have heard me talk about every time.
• 35:31
  Speaker 5: This age verification comes up for online, and I say,
• 35:35
  Speaker 5: it's got nothing to do with protecting teenagers. In my
• 35:38
  Speaker 5: own humble opinion, I think it's got everything to do
• 35:41
  Speaker 5: with their massive concern about this issue cropped up just
• 35:44
  Speaker 5: roughly two weeks after they'd passed their digital ID bill.
• 35:49
  Speaker 6: Well, here's my mate, David.
• 35:51
  Speaker 5: Schubridge checking out, just fat checking what exactly and how
• 35:57
  Speaker 5: exactly they're going to do this without making everyone verify
• 36:03
  Speaker 5: their identity online.
• 36:05
  Speaker 6: Check out their answer.
• 36:07
  Speaker 15: Of course, if you're testing to see if someone's thirteen
• 36:09
  Speaker 15: or fourteen, or fifteen or sixteen, you're also testing to
• 36:12
  Speaker 15: see by definition if they're sixteen plus. So if there's
• 36:20
  Speaker 15: going to be age verification, everybody is going to have
• 36:23
  Speaker 15: to go through an age verification process, won't they.
• 36:26
  Speaker 10: Yes, yes, So.
• 36:28
  Speaker 15: This isn't just about the privacy or collecting data about kids.
• 36:32
  Speaker 6: This is literally everybody access in social media.
• 36:35
  Speaker 15: That's how it has to work, isn't it.
• 36:37
  Speaker 5: Yes, ladies and gentlemen, irs my game, there's already as them.
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: It's on it, like you have to be thirteen plus,
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: I think on Insta and Facebook and stuff, so you're
• 36:48
  Speaker 4: put in your date of birth like, oh my god, no, I'm.
• 36:51
  Speaker 6: Over sixteen digital ID and you know it.
• 36:56
  Speaker 5: This is not already everything we've got, Yes, I'm over
• 36:59
  Speaker 5: six years of age, which is currently all Facebook, Insta,
• 37:03
  Speaker 5: all the others.
• 37:04
  Speaker 6: That's all they do. They're just checking your age and
• 37:06
  Speaker 6: then any kid the age of five.
• 37:09
  Speaker 5: You could be like, so what we are talking about
• 37:13
  Speaker 5: here is verification and there is no way, as David
• 37:17
  Speaker 5: Schuber has just forced them to admit, you can't verify
• 37:20
  Speaker 5: something like that without everyone having their digital ID and
• 37:25
  Speaker 5: happening to front up.
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: It was a great question and he absolutely nailed. Shubridge
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: a green very well.
• 37:33
  Speaker 4: Going to mark this day in history. We're going to
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: go exactly when we're coming back.
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: The Australian newspaper tomorrow reporting just how much the public
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: service has expanded under the Albanesi government.
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: It will shock you. That's coming up in a monment.
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: Welcome back.
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: Let's check out tomorrow's front pages. Joe, you've got the
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: Australian and the Public Service.
• 37:56
  Speaker 4: I certainly do have Australian and no one's got the
• 37:59
  Speaker 4: public se because it's just too big for any one
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: man to handle. The main strap on the OS says inflate.
• 38:06
  Speaker 4: This PM's public sector splurge costs taxpayers extra five billion
• 38:12
  Speaker 4: roll Scooby. Taxpayers have been slugged with eight five billion
• 38:16
  Speaker 4: dollar spike in the wages bill for the Commonwealth bureaucracy,
• 38:20
  Speaker 4: with Labour adding more than twenty six thousand new permanent
• 38:24
  Speaker 4: public servants to the payroll since it was.
• 38:27
  Speaker 6: Elected twenty six thousand.
• 38:30
  Speaker 4: I knew you'd get upset.
• 38:33
  Speaker 6: Thousdd new job, but.
• 38:35
  Speaker 4: When you break it down, it's only ten thousand a
• 38:38
  Speaker 4: year since they were elected.
• 38:39
  Speaker 6: So this is utterly insane.
• 38:43
  Speaker 5: So now the cost for the Commonwealth public.
• 38:47
  Speaker 6: Sector across the country has gone from.
• 38:50
  Speaker 5: Thirty two billion thirty two point five billion in June
• 38:55
  Speaker 5: twenty twenty two, which was a measly two and a
• 38:57
  Speaker 5: bit years ago, to thirty seven billion dollars with a
• 39:02
  Speaker 5: total workforce of three hundred and sixty five thousand, four
• 39:06
  Speaker 5: hundred people.
• 39:08
  Speaker 6: I wouldn't even mind if you were doing a good job.
• 39:11
  Speaker 5: If I was just like, yeah, go a government, mate,
• 39:13
  Speaker 5: we are are kick in.
• 39:18
  Speaker 6: But our country has never been doing better.
• 39:21
  Speaker 5: I'd be like, hire another twenty six thousand, let's do
• 39:24
  Speaker 5: even better. But no, Now, more than ever, public servants
• 39:30
  Speaker 5: have the worst reputation at being utterly useless government wastage.
• 39:37
  Speaker 6: And this is the government who has.
• 39:39
  Speaker 5: Just added twenty six thousand in two.
• 39:41
  Speaker 6: And a bit years to their workforce.
• 39:43
  Speaker 5: This is the government who likes to front the press
• 39:45
  Speaker 5: and tell us with a serious face, the RBA.
• 39:48
  Speaker 6: Has got it wrong. Government spending isn't driving inflation. I mean,
• 39:53
  Speaker 6: are you kidding me? An extra five billion? This genuinely believe.
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: It does seem to be an inverse relationship between the
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: number of public servants and the amount of service the
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: public receives. And it's not just federally. The article goes
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: on to say that labor. Governments in the States and
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: at a local government level are compounding the problem. It's
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: thirty seven billion dollars annually for federal public servants. It's
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: two hundred and fifty billion dollars a year for public servants.
• 40:22
  Speaker 6: Right, it's a labor thing.
• 40:24
  Speaker 4: You'll be pleased to know. I know you know, I
• 40:26
  Speaker 4: know you think it's bad, but you'll be pleased to know.
• 40:28
  Speaker 4: All twenty six thousand of those new public servants voted
• 40:31
  Speaker 4: for the voice.
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: So imagine if those extra twenty six thousand public servants,
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: who probably aren't helping that much, were I don't know,
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: doing a trade.
• 40:42
  Speaker 4: I don't know how they Nuther fives. But one of
• 40:43
  Speaker 4: the things the government did say was going to do
• 40:45
  Speaker 4: was cut down on outsourcing. So we're on the PwC scan.
• 40:49
  Speaker 4: Huge contracts were given out by I gotta find it's
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: possible that there is an extra payroll cost that has
• 40:58
  Speaker 4: been picked up because they have been outsourcing it, and
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: maybe that money has been saved elsewhere.
• 41:03
  Speaker 5: It's terrifying about this kind of government growth. Is even
• 41:06
  Speaker 5: if God intervenes and we do get a liberal government
• 41:09
  Speaker 5: next year, are they really.
• 41:11
  Speaker 6: Going to fire.
• 41:12
  Speaker 5: Those brand new twenty six thousand people. I don't think
• 41:16
  Speaker 5: so it's very hard to cut down on government spending
• 41:20
  Speaker 5: and growth quite like that.
• 41:22
  Speaker 6: That is utterly insen You know.
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: How the campaign will go right, Labor will say you
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: can't elect a coalition government because if the coalition get
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: into power, they're going to cut the public service.
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: So this is how that would do it. Jobs, you
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: build the public service.
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: The future opposition of going to cut the public service
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: if they win office, and so everyone votes for the
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: government because they want to.
• 41:43
  Speaker 4: Keep the acat liberal government could be booted out of
• 41:46
  Speaker 4: off it.
• 41:48
  Speaker 5: What a loss to the state of the nation that
• 41:50
  Speaker 5: would be. To the front page of the advertiser. Now
• 41:53
  Speaker 5: heads butt over new smoke laws. Individual cigarettes must have
• 41:58
  Speaker 5: health warnings printed on their but by April next year.
• 42:02
  Speaker 5: A move insider say, we'll push more smokers toward.
• 42:06
  Speaker 6: The tobacco black market.
• 42:08
  Speaker 5: I'm sorry, how is this supposed to crack down on smoking?
• 42:13
  Speaker 5: Are people supposed to be enjoying a cigarette going cross
• 42:17
  Speaker 5: eyed reading the butt and being.
• 42:19
  Speaker 6: Like, actually, maybe I should rethink this. I mean, it's
• 42:21
  Speaker 6: a bit late at that point.
• 42:23
  Speaker 4: Can I say, as someone who's had a health warning
• 42:25
  Speaker 4: on my butt for years now? It really works.
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: There's no way this is all going to work, and
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: as the articles suggest, it's only.
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: Going to drive the black market. I pay that much money.
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: They actually say that because of manufacturing complexities in putting
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: a warning on every cigarette. But we may actually have
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: a situation in this country where there's not a single
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: legal cigarette to be smoked because none of them have
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: warnings by times as jew which I think is in April.
• 42:55
  Speaker 5: Yeah, so the manufacturers are like, fair, go mate, we
• 42:58
  Speaker 5: spit out millions of these. We're just supposed to fix
• 43:02
  Speaker 5: the smoking printing press and now all they it's just
• 43:06
  Speaker 5: ridiculous afterly ridiculous.
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: Well, there's some good news for regional Australians. The cans
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: Post is reporting that Rex has been thrown a lifeline
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: by the government. The Albanezi government has issued eighty million
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: dollars in funding to Rex Airlines following the carrier's announcement
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: to extend voluntary administration securing the future of critical regional
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: routes for Queenslanders until just after the next election. The
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: article doesn't say that I just added that part in
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: Rex fly.
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: It was implied in the copy. We say in the
• 43:36
  Speaker 4: newspaper I'll.
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: Keep Rex flying until June, a federal election probably around May,
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: so that's quite convenient. The government hasn't revealed yet whether
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: the eighty million dollars is a loan or a grant.
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: I guess we'll find that out, but it's good news
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: for regional Australia who rely on REX airlines, and of
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: course for US dwellers commuting from capital cities. The A
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: triple C say, has gone up thirteen percent on average
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: if it is between major cities since REX exited those routes,
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: So good news for regional.
• 44:14
  Speaker 4: Good news for regional. I think whether it's a loane
• 44:16
  Speaker 4: or not basically depends on whether REX gets out of
• 44:19
  Speaker 4: administration or not, because obviously it's incapable of paying it back.
• 44:22
  Speaker 4: But if it is up short word, but you're absolutely
• 44:24
  Speaker 4: right the price gouging by the other airlines. And as
• 44:27
  Speaker 4: I say, this is someone who is not a member
• 44:28
  Speaker 4: of the Chairman's lounge. But it's been crazy. We had
• 44:31
  Speaker 4: to fly to Melbourne at my whole family and my
• 44:36
  Speaker 4: sister and her family for a funeral of a basically
• 44:41
  Speaker 4: kind of like my stepfather, and it just happened to
• 44:44
  Speaker 4: be the day the Monday after Grand Final. I think
• 44:48
  Speaker 4: it was, and the prices were just phenomenal. I was,
• 44:53
  Speaker 4: I understand demand is going to be higher on Grand
• 44:55
  Speaker 4: Final weekend in Melbourne. But you know, he's also got
• 44:58
  Speaker 4: a lot of planes. You know, you could actually put
• 45:01
  Speaker 4: more plans on and you've got so many people coming
• 45:03
  Speaker 4: you would be recouping your profit margins because of the
• 45:06
  Speaker 4: sheer volume of traffic that is coming in. So it
• 45:09
  Speaker 4: seems to me that, you know, maybe they just didn't
• 45:12
  Speaker 4: have enough baggage handlers. Still, it's only been three years
• 45:14
  Speaker 4: since COVID.
• 45:15
  Speaker 5: But the only question now is why didn't they do
• 45:18
  Speaker 5: this sooner?
• 45:19
  Speaker 6: Right?
• 45:19
  Speaker 5: Because we were talking about this months ago.
• 45:21
  Speaker 6: She's going down what is ruleless late? Like some of
• 45:26
  Speaker 6: the flying.
• 45:27
  Speaker 4: Doctors, I was a spin doctor who worked in government.
• 45:31
  Speaker 4: Their favorite way to describe any policy they announced was
• 45:34
  Speaker 4: long overdue because it meant that they knew they definitely
• 45:36
  Speaker 4: got it right. I just want to quickly take you
• 45:38
  Speaker 4: to our national capital once more.
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: This evening.
• 45:42
  Speaker 4: This is the front page of the Canberra Times. You
• 45:45
  Speaker 4: will see that the main splash head is agencies hit
• 45:49
  Speaker 4: back at Audit and the pick splash, as we say
• 45:52
  Speaker 4: in the business, is everybody is worthy. I would just
• 45:57
  Speaker 4: like to say, for the record, the story that we're
• 46:00
  Speaker 4: going to be focusing on is neither of them, because
• 46:04
  Speaker 4: that is my born fruck Paes, I've everything, What the
• 46:09
  Speaker 4: hell is going on? Agencies hit back at order, agencies
• 46:13
  Speaker 4: have put back, pushed back on a damning order.
• 46:15
  Speaker 6: Office.
• 46:16
  Speaker 4: Why did you just do the whole frog page about superinduation,
• 46:19
  Speaker 4: just gearing a picture altogether?
• 46:22
  Speaker 6: Why bother later down?
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: It's almost worth getting a copy of tomorrow's Cambra Times
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: just to note how bad it is.
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: We're going to go to a break.
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: When we come back, wa Beach Go is amazed to
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: find an emperor penguin three and a half thousand.
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: Kilometers from home that's coming out with one.
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: I said, before the break, we're going to talk about penguins.
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: But before we talk about penguins, Liz, we're going to
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: talk about monkeys.
• 46:49
  Speaker 6: I love this story.
• 46:52
  Speaker 5: So there's forty three monkeys in South Carolina and they
• 46:55
  Speaker 5: are bred for medical research. But these guys have decided
• 46:59
  Speaker 5: to take out of their compound and just have a
• 47:02
  Speaker 5: field day.
• 47:03
  Speaker 6: Forty three of them.
• 47:05
  Speaker 5: And now just swinging around in the trees surrounding the compound,
• 47:10
  Speaker 5: having a great time. The CEO of Alpha Genesis who's
• 47:15
  Speaker 5: in charge of the medical research at said compound.
• 47:18
  Speaker 6: His name's Greg Westergard.
• 47:20
  Speaker 5: He said they are very social monkeys, and they tend
• 47:22
  Speaker 5: to travel in groups.
• 47:24
  Speaker 6: So when the first.
• 47:25
  Speaker 5: Couple go out the door, the others tend to just
• 47:27
  Speaker 5: follow right along. I think they are having an adventure,
• 47:32
  Speaker 5: and I think, Greg, buddy, you're not getting your monkeys
• 47:35
  Speaker 5: back after this taste of freedom. Apparently compound workers are
• 47:39
  Speaker 5: trying to lure them back with food. But if these
• 47:43
  Speaker 5: guys are half as smart as where told monkeys are,
• 47:46
  Speaker 5: why on earth would they go back to a medical lab.
• 47:50
  Speaker 6: Also, I love this story. It's like Sure Shank Redemption.
• 47:55
  Speaker 6: It's like this everything, so many illustrations.
• 47:58
  Speaker 4: Interestingly, forty three bats also escaped from a research facility
• 48:02
  Speaker 4: in Wuha. World Health Organization says there's nothing to worry about.
• 48:06
  Speaker 4: It totally fine.
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: While those monkeys wanted to get away from their cages,
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: there's an emperor penguin that just wanted to get away
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: from the cold. It traveled three and a half thousand
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: kilometers and turned up on the beach on a town
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: of Denmark in the West Australian Coast, not Denmark. The
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: town is called Denmark. It's on the West Australian coast.
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: Have listened to this surfer who was the first one
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: to spot the penguin when it waddled ashore.
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: What's on the beach?
• 48:33
  Speaker 16: So what was one doing in Australia last week?
• 48:37
  Speaker 5: This big bird in the water was kind of like
• 48:39
  Speaker 5: coming out of the waves and my mate was like, oh,
• 48:43
  Speaker 5: that's a penguin.
• 48:44
  Speaker 16: Aaron Fowler here was wrapping up a beach day with
• 48:46
  Speaker 16: family and friends when after a lovely surf, he and
• 48:49
  Speaker 16: his meet witness pissibly the first ever emperor penguin landing
• 48:52
  Speaker 16: upone Western Australian shores.
• 48:54
  Speaker 9: He just waddled over to us and like came right
• 48:57
  Speaker 9: up to us. Like I think he might have thought
• 48:59
  Speaker 9: we were penguin or something because we had wet suits.
• 49:01
  Speaker 16: On experts estimate is less than a year old, but
• 49:06
  Speaker 16: male emperor penguins can grow over four feet tall.
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: The surface, said he and other beach goes when they
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: saw this thing coming out of the water, they thought, oh,
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: it must be some sort of water bird. And then
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: as it came out of the water, it got taller
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: and tall. It was about a meter tall, and they
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: realized it's a penguin.
• 49:21
  Speaker 3: It's now being.
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: Looked after and sprayed continually with cold water because obviously
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: it's been quite a change of temperature.
• 49:28
  Speaker 4: Like me on Saturday night.
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: Indeed, that's all we've got time for tonight. Stick around.
• 49:34
  Speaker 3: Redepenehey is coming up in just a moment.