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Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan: Lying in Wait - The Homicide of Jared Bridegan · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Bodybags with Joseph Scott Morgan. Imagine if you will, You've
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Speaker 1: spent the weekend with your children. You're having to take
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Speaker 1: them back home to their mother with whom they live.
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Speaker 1: You've got your other child in the back of the
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Speaker 1: car because they wanted to ride along to be with
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Speaker 1: their siblings, and then all of a sudden, in the darkness,
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Speaker 1: there's something in the middle of the road that causes
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Speaker 1: you to stop. You don't see a way around it.
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Speaker 1: You open the door, and the last thing you hear
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Speaker 1: there's a loud explosion and you are no more. Today
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Speaker 1: we're going to talk about the homicide of Jared bright Agan.
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Speaker 1: I'm Joseph Scott Morgan and this his body backs. Joining
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Speaker 1: me today again is my pout Jackie Howard, executive producer
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Speaker 1: of Crime Stories. When Nancy Grace, Jackie, We've been looking
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Speaker 1: at Jared's case now for lord over a year, I guess,
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Speaker 1: And suddenly we've got movement in this case. We do.
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Speaker 1: There has been an arrest made in the murder of
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Speaker 1: Microsoft executive Jared bright Agan. He was killed in front
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Speaker 1: of his two year old daughter on his way to
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Speaker 1: drop off, as you said, his twins to his ex
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Speaker 1: wife who lived not too far away. They had a
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Speaker 1: regular routine of drop off and pick up so that
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Speaker 1: they shared custody. Henry Tannan is accused by police of
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Speaker 1: gunning down the thirty three year old father. We know
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Speaker 1: that bright Again was shot. He was on his way
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Speaker 1: home after dropping the twins off, and this is a
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Speaker 1: one way street that he is coming down, and it
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Speaker 1: is a route he routinely took after dropping his twins
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Speaker 1: off with his ex wife. His daughter is in the backseat.
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Speaker 1: There is a tire in the roadway again one way street,
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Speaker 1: and the tire is in the middle of the road.
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Speaker 1: He cannot go around it. There's not enough shoulder on
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Speaker 1: either side to go around this tire, so he stops,
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Speaker 1: gets out to move it, and at that point he
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Speaker 1: is shot. The two year old who was in the
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Speaker 1: back seat, Bexley, comes home when she's returned to her mother,
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Speaker 1: which is Jered bright Again's now wife, Kirsten, and she
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Speaker 1: tells mommy daddy on the ground. So this child has
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Speaker 1: a memory of what happened before. We talk about the
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Speaker 1: evidence that led to an arrest. Remind me of what
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Speaker 1: would have happened to bright Again when he was shot.
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Speaker 1: Where was he shot, what was his wounds and is
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Speaker 1: it likely that he died instantly? It would seem that
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Speaker 1: this went down pretty quickly, Jackie, that he was killed
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Speaker 1: in place, and the one bit of information that the
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Speaker 1: police have released in this case relative to his injuries
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Speaker 1: is that they were at close range. Now, what we
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Speaker 1: do know is that it was close range and that
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Speaker 1: there were multiple of them. As a matter of fact,
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Speaker 1: not only have they talked about that there were multiple
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Speaker 1: gunshot wounds, but they have found multiple casings on the
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Speaker 1: ground pretty much adjacent to his remains. They've been very
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Speaker 1: non specific about the absolute anatomical location of these injuries.
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Speaker 1: But he was essentially found deceased immediately outside of the car,
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Speaker 1: so it's not like he ran some great distance. And
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Speaker 1: right you were when you mentioned little Bexley in the
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Speaker 1: back of the car, she was close enough that the
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Speaker 1: shots rang out in her ears. She could actually hear
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Speaker 1: them at that moment, Tom, And she also talked about
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Speaker 1: her father going down, So you have to really wonder,
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Speaker 1: as this goes to proximity, did she actually hear her
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Speaker 1: father impact the ground in her own two year old
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Speaker 1: little mind. Is that something that she has a memory
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Speaker 1: of remember she says, boom boom, daddy on the ground.
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Speaker 1: So it's one thing to hear gunshot wounds, but to
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Speaker 1: actually hear her say daddy on the ground. Does that
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Speaker 1: mean that she heard him impact the ground or did
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Speaker 1: she actually witness or maybe a combination of both him
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Speaker 1: going down and it happened immediately outside of the car
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Speaker 1: Jackie right adjacent to this little baby strapped in that
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Speaker 1: car seat. She's only two years old. Police estimate that
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Speaker 1: the little girl sat in the back seat for a
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Speaker 1: least three minutes before a passer by called nine to
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Speaker 1: one police. The suspect in this arrest is Henry Tennant
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Speaker 1: to eat N O N and again he is accused
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Speaker 1: by cops of gunning down the thirty three year old
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Speaker 1: father of four. When the announcement of appending arrest was made,
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Speaker 1: the first thing people expected was that the suspect was
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Speaker 1: going to be his ex wife, and that is Shanna
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Speaker 1: Gardner Fernandez. After the divorce, Gardner married a trainer, Mario Fernandez.
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Speaker 1: Now we find out that Shanna Gardner Fernandez has moved
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Speaker 1: across the country without her husband, without Mario Fernandez. Learning
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Speaker 1: that it was not the announcement that most people suspected,
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Speaker 1: and again, everyone is innocent until proving guilty. Police charged
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Speaker 1: Tenan with, among other things, conspiracy to commit murder, but
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Speaker 1: that's not all. What were his charges, Joe. We come
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Speaker 1: to find out that he's charged, first off with second
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Speaker 1: degree murder with a weapon, all right, So that means
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Speaker 1: when you break that down, you begin it's kind of
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Speaker 1: self explanatory, but you can murder someone without a weapon,
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Speaker 1: all right. So they're specifying that in this charge that
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Speaker 1: it was a second degree murder. It wasn't like he
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Speaker 1: choked somebody, so he had a weapon that he used
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Speaker 1: to facilitate the death. And then here's what's very interesting
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Speaker 1: about this to me is that he is charged with
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Speaker 1: conspiracy to commit and murder. If you have a conspiracy,
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Speaker 1: that means that you don't just have one person, You've
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Speaker 1: got one, two, maybe three people that are attached to
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Speaker 1: this event. So people are conspiring to enter into an
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Speaker 1: agreement to perpetrate a homicide. In addition to that, and
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Speaker 1: this goes to the position of Becks and you remember
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Speaker 1: we're talking about what she heard and maybe what she saw.
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Speaker 1: This other charge is actually child abuse. And then he's
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Speaker 1: also charged with being an accessory after the fact. So
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Speaker 1: we have the facts of the case here. We know
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Speaker 1: that we have a death is at his hand. He
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Speaker 1: hasn't been proved guilty yet, but he has an awareness,
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Speaker 1: he has knowledge of this event. This all according to
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Speaker 1: the prosecutor's office. So they've got a lot of information
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Speaker 1: on this man, specific tiebacks, and let's think about how
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Speaker 1: long did it take them to bring all of this together.
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Speaker 1: They have been taking their time because I think a
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Speaker 1: lot of people, you know, when we've talked about this
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Speaker 1: case on air in the past, particularly with prim stories
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Speaker 1: with Nancy, we really thought. I think many of us
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Speaker 1: thought that this case was going to be turned around
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Speaker 1: and solved very quickly. But it has taken a long time.
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Speaker 1: And I don't think that it was necessarily because they
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Speaker 1: didn't have leads. I think that they had to put
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Speaker 1: all of the pieces together. They had the pieces, they
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Speaker 1: just had to begin to put them together, and they
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Speaker 1: wouldn't make sure that they had a rock solid case.
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Speaker 1: One thing that we need to remember, just because he
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Speaker 1: is charged with conspiracy to commit murder does not necessarily
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Speaker 1: link him back to the ex wife. Don't be making
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Speaker 1: that assumption because right now all we know is that
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Speaker 1: police believe there was a conspiracy, but they're not naming
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Speaker 1: anyone that they thought might be in on this. Shannon
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Speaker 1: Gardner Fernandez has adamantly stated and denied any role in
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Speaker 1: Jered Brightigan's death. Henry Tennan had a rap sheet. He
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Speaker 1: was actually staying with a roommate who described him as
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Speaker 1: a quiet, hard working man. But he also recalls four
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Speaker 1: separate police visits to their home after Tennon was arrested
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Speaker 1: on unrelated charges last August. He said police kicked down
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Speaker 1: the door at least one time. They turned the whole
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Speaker 1: place over. They were looking for a gun, his truck.
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Speaker 1: They took all of his clothes. The rumt says he
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Speaker 1: was also taken in for questioning and grilled for about
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Speaker 1: four hours for any information that he knew about Tennon's
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Speaker 1: role in bright Agen's death. Of course, he said he
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Speaker 1: had no idea about what was going on. What I
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Speaker 1: find interesting about learning this is the role of this
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Speaker 1: truck that they were looking for, because we did have
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Speaker 1: reports of a blue truck being spotted near the scene
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Speaker 1: of Brightigen's murder. The truck is going to be key
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Speaker 1: in this case. I have no doubt, and we've been
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Speaker 1: hearing about this for many many months now that they
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Speaker 1: have CCTV footage of this, and the footage that was
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Speaker 1: released was kind of blurry. I really wonder as this
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Speaker 1: investigation has progressed, if they were able to kind of
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Speaker 1: tighten down those images a little bit, and maybe they
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Speaker 1: had other views of this vehicle. Perhaps they sent clips
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Speaker 1: that they had to another agency for them to kind
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Speaker 1: of refine them so that they could use them better
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Speaker 1: to identify this vehicle. What we do know is a
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Speaker 1: specific make that we're looking for forward f one fifty,
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Speaker 1: and that is going to lead back, I think to
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Speaker 1: a key piece of evidence in this case, and this
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Speaker 1: goes back to the tire. People keep talking about the
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Speaker 1: tire that was in the roadway that initially blocked Jared's
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Speaker 1: progression down the road, and we have to keep in
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Speaker 1: mind something here, and this is again a major, major
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Speaker 1: bit of evidence. So the fact that it's not just
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Speaker 1: a tire. I keep hearing reports in the media and
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Speaker 1: I read them over and over again where they keep
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Speaker 1: saying tire, it's not simply a tire. Okay, what does
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Speaker 1: that matter? Well, it matters tremendously because this is a
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Speaker 1: tire that's set on a rim and so not only
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Speaker 1: do you have a tire that, from an equipment stand point,
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Speaker 1: can be tied back to a particular type of vehicle
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Speaker 1: that would take that size tire, but you also have
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Speaker 1: a rim that has pre drilled holes in it that
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Speaker 1: attaches on to the lug bolts that are fixed on
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Speaker 1: a vehicle, so it can be mounted that way, and
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Speaker 1: that's very specific. You'll have manufacturer marks they're on a rim,
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Speaker 1: not to mention the markings that are on the tire,
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Speaker 1: and so forensically, when you begin to look at this thing,
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Speaker 1: you think, well, what's going to make this particular item
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Speaker 1: or items if you refer to the rim and the
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Speaker 1: tire together, what's going to make them unique? Well, first off,
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Speaker 1: you have to look at the manufacturer. You have to
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Speaker 1: look at the date that these things were produced. When
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Speaker 1: you go to the tire itself, you begin to think about, well,
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Speaker 1: how much wear is there on this tire? That's there
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Speaker 1: because it was a warm tire. This image is all
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Speaker 1: over the internet and you can see that it has
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Speaker 1: been well worn, it's covered in dust, and it will
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Speaker 1: have a specific wear pattern. If you have a tire
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Speaker 1: like this that has a specific wear pattern, that wear
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Speaker 1: pattern might be very distinctive to the vehicle that it
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Speaker 1: was used upon, because the alignment on the vehicle might
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Speaker 1: be wrong. You might have tires are not necessarily going
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Speaker 1: to match perfectly if it's a replacement tire, and so
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Speaker 1: it's going to cause this vehicle to drive in a
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Speaker 1: very particular way. So you've got multiple points along here
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Speaker 1: that can tie back to a specific car. I will
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Speaker 1: continue to be watching this very closely because I want
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Speaker 1: to know if this ties back to Tennin's vehicle, this
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Speaker 1: specific tire, did it originate out of the bed of
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Speaker 1: his truck? And you know, we haven't even unpacked more
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Speaker 1: specific forensic evidence that goes back to say the rim itself.
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Speaker 1: If I understand what you're saying, there's enough evidence here
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Speaker 1: besides touch DNA to link Tennan to this murder. I
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Speaker 1: think that probably touch DNA is the least of these
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Speaker 1: in this particular case. And yeah, it might very well
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Speaker 1: be there, and if it is, their bully for them,
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Speaker 1: I'm happy that they have that. Listen to our listeners.
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Speaker 1: I would urge anybody with your vehicle, if you have
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Speaker 1: a vehicle, go outside and take a look at the rim.
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Speaker 1: That's the inner portion of your wheel there on vehicle,
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Speaker 1: and you'll have brake dust that's on there many times,
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Speaker 1: and it's this kind of gray dust that is a
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Speaker 1: perfect sourcing for latent prints, believe it or not. So
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Speaker 1: if he put his hand on that rim itself, okay,
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Speaker 1: just featured this for a second, on that rim itself
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Speaker 1: and just dropped it off in the middle of the road,
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Speaker 1: his print might very well be there. And that's pretty
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Speaker 1: fascinating when you begin to think about that, that he
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Speaker 1: could have left a print in the dust on that tire,
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Speaker 1: on the rim itself, and when you look at the
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Speaker 1: images that are floating around out there, you'll see this
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Speaker 1: thing as just crusted with dirt. So that's a potential
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Speaker 1: that's there. If there's grease on the back side of
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Speaker 1: that rim, you can leave behind what's referred to as
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Speaker 1: a plastic print. That means that when you have grease
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Speaker 1: or oil and those sorts of things and you apply
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Speaker 1: your finger to that area and you pull it away,
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Speaker 1: you'll actually leave you'll leave a print in that grease
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Speaker 1: or whatever else is there as well. Grease, oil, that
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Speaker 1: sort of thing. Road deposits carbon build up. Think about
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Speaker 1: when we were kids, if you had a substance like
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Speaker 1: play dough or silly putty or something like that. When
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Speaker 1: you're a kid and you press your finger down onto
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Speaker 1: that surface and you pull it away, Well, that's what
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Speaker 1: a plastic print looks like. You actually have it frozen
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Speaker 1: in that for just a second when you're a kid,
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Speaker 1: and you can kind of stretch it and play with
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Speaker 1: it and that sort of thing. Same principle here with
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Speaker 1: this rim. He very well may have left a print there.
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Speaker 1: So you know that tire is going to be an
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Speaker 1: absolute just bevy of data for them to examine and
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Speaker 1: perhaps to tie back to this fellow an examination of
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Speaker 1: this case. It offers up more than just simply attire.
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Speaker 1: There's a lot of forensics that they have in this case,
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Speaker 1: in my opinion, and things that have led to an
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Speaker 1: arrest and I think personally have led to an idea
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Speaker 1: that maybe there was a conspiracy afoot in this case.
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Speaker 1: I'm interested in talking about and backing up to talk
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Speaker 1: about the scene again, not just the tire and the truck.
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Speaker 1: There were some very specific points that you would have
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Speaker 1: to pay attention to and know about this area where
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Speaker 1: he was stopped, where he was ambushed. Basically, this was
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Speaker 1: a one way street. So whoever set this up would
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Speaker 1: have to know it's a one way street, would have
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Speaker 1: to realize that there is not enough room for two cars,
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Speaker 1: and knowing that the landscape around him would not support
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Speaker 1: going around this tire. So there actually was a little
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Speaker 1: bit of thought put into this that goes to an
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Speaker 1: element of premeditation. And let's kind of put this into
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Speaker 1: military terms, because you mentioned the word ambush earlier, Jackie.
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Speaker 1: You know, the military will go out and recon an area,
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Speaker 1: conduct reconnaissance, and I think that that's probably what happened
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Speaker 1: here because the geography, and I'm talking about the physical
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Speaker 1: landscape out here is very particular. First off, you have
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Speaker 1: to identify the fact that Jared Bridigan took a specific
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Speaker 1: route to and from his home to convey his children
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Speaker 1: to his ex wife's home. It's the route that he chose.
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Speaker 1: It's maybe the most direct route to get back to
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Speaker 1: his home. But what's so helling about this is the
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Speaker 1: fact that along this way there's a one way stretch,
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Speaker 1: and this one way stretch is very narrow. And when
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Speaker 1: I say narrow, there's narrow. When we begin to think
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Speaker 1: about maybe a street in the city where we've got
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Speaker 1: sidewalks on both sides and those sorts of things. But
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Speaker 1: in this context, you're talking about the environment in Florida,
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Speaker 1: And when you take a look at the way the
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Speaker 1: land kind of lays. On one side of the road,
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Speaker 1: you've got this low growth of vegetation with a few
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Speaker 1: trees in this area that would be perfect for concealment
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Speaker 1: covering concealment. How metal bushes are in there. You see
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Speaker 1: some old growth oak that look like they're sitting in
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Speaker 1: the back back there, maybe a few pine trees. And
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Speaker 1: then on the other side you've got this depressed area
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Speaker 1: that kind of slopes away from the road and it
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Speaker 1: looks very marshy wet. So if you've got an element
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Speaker 1: in the middle of the road that is impeding your
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Speaker 1: ability to pass through the area, you don't have a choice.
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Speaker 1: You have to get out and remove that item because
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Speaker 1: you can't go up on either shoulder of the road
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Speaker 1: because you might run off into the weeds or you
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Speaker 1: very well might go off into the swampy area and
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Speaker 1: get stuck. And this is not like he was driving
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Speaker 1: a gigantic forward drive truck. This is a Volkswagen platform
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Speaker 1: that sounds as though that it's kind of one of
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Speaker 1: these quasi suv type small suv type vehicles that he
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Speaker 1: would not have the ability with this vehicle to essentially
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Speaker 1: just kind of climb over the tire. It's not going
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Speaker 1: to pass him the vehicle. He is compelled at this
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Speaker 1: point in time by virtue of this item in the
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Speaker 1: road to get out and remove the tire. So what
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Speaker 1: does that do? Well, as soon as you do that,
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Speaker 1: you become very vulnerable to anyone that wishes to do
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Speaker 1: you harm. You're outside the confines of the vehicle. You
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Speaker 1: don't have a door or even a windshield that is
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Speaker 1: protecting you in any way. So once you have stopped
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Speaker 1: the vehicle, and if I remember correctly, when he stopped
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Speaker 1: the vehicle, he put his flashers on. He had the
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Speaker 1: presence of mind put slashers own exit vehicle, opens up
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Speaker 1: the door in order to get out there, to remove
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Speaker 1: this impediment. And it's at that point in time that
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Speaker 1: he's essentially executed, executing let me say, they're word again,
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Speaker 1: executed in the middle of the road right there. And
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Speaker 1: it just wasn't one shot. It's not like somebody randomly
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Speaker 1: fired out of the woods or something. Now, someone was
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Speaker 1: up close on him because they have mentioned the term
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Speaker 1: close range, and they mentioned the term multiple shots. As
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Speaker 1: an investigator, you can automatically exclude anybody that just would
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Speaker 1: have been randomly firing a weapon off in the distance,
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Speaker 1: and this poor fellow happened to be on the receiving
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Speaker 1: end of the round. In no, no, that's not what
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Speaker 1: happened here. Somebody specifically targeted him and essentially killed him
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Speaker 1: in the middle of the road with his little babysitting
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Speaker 1: right there strapping in coarsiat Joe, You and I've had
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Speaker 1: a lot of conversations, and one of the things that
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Speaker 1: I tell you a lot is that I am geographically challenged.
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Speaker 1: I don't travel a lot, so I don't always know
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Speaker 1: things about other regions. But I have learned through the
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Speaker 1: years that the landscape in Florida is a little bit different.
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Speaker 1: In One thing is you don't have a lot of
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Speaker 1: basements because of the water table and the water content
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Speaker 1: in the soil in Florida. Given that he had to
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Speaker 1: be stopped at a specific point and the perpetrator set
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Speaker 1: it up, I'm going to throw out the choke point
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Speaker 1: only because you have talked to me about that before.
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Speaker 1: So this perpetrator set up a choke point, knowing that
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Speaker 1: the landmass surrounding where this stopped would not support the
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Speaker 1: weight of a truck. Am I right, You're absolutely on target. Again.
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Speaker 1: Using the term choke point, that's a military term. It's
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Speaker 1: a point of vulnerability. If folks at home will just
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Speaker 1: kind of envision a funnel and how funnel narrows down,
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Speaker 1: that's a choke point. You get to a point where
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Speaker 1: it restricts movement, and if you're looking to ambush somebody,
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Speaker 1: you want to get them in an area where they
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Speaker 1: cannot defend themselves. They can't run away. It's narrow down
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Speaker 1: to that specific spot, so you've kind of got them
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Speaker 1: captured at that moment time and you can do with
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Speaker 1: them as you wish. What's kind of interesting about this,
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Speaker 1: I think is that if that theory holds water, which
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Speaker 1: I believe that it does, you would have the perpetrator
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Speaker 1: standing on either side of the road. If I were
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Speaker 1: a betting man, I'd bet that they would be on
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Speaker 1: the side of the road adjacent in that kind of
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Speaker 1: semi wooded area that kind of rises above it slightly
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Speaker 1: has a rise to it above the roadbed. You can
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Speaker 1: look down on an area and if you step down
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Speaker 1: out of the shadows, no one can remember. This is
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Speaker 1: at night and it's not a lighted area. Another reason
21:40
Speaker 1: to pick this area because the individual that you're trying
21:43
Speaker 1: to attack would essentially be blind to anything that's around them.
21:47
Speaker 1: You don't have street lights out there, so they could
21:49
Speaker 1: emerge out of the shadows once he has stopped that
21:52
Speaker 1: vehicle to remove the tire and fire upon him. In
21:56
Speaker 1: this case, fire upon Jerry. But what's interesting is that
22:00
Speaker 1: this individual that would have perpetrated this would have had
22:03
Speaker 1: to have stood there for a while. And what happens
22:06
Speaker 1: when you stand in place, particularly on this soft, loamy soil.
22:10
Speaker 1: Any of us have been in Florida, I know throughout
22:12
Speaker 1: the day any time of the year, you can essentially
22:14
Speaker 1: get a rainstorm, so the soil many times will remain
22:18
Speaker 1: quite moist and very malleable. And so if he's standing
22:22
Speaker 1: in one place for a protracted period of time, just
22:25
Speaker 1: waiting and waiting and waiting for Jared to pass by
22:29
Speaker 1: headed on his way home, there might be footprints out there.
22:33
Speaker 1: There could also be evidence of activity in addition to footprints,
22:37
Speaker 1: because you're trying to find a spot where you'd have
22:41
Speaker 1: broken vegetation where you get branches snapped off. Remember there's
22:44
Speaker 1: a low growth brush out there as well, these palmetto
22:47
Speaker 1: bushes that I mentioned, other kind of grassy elements that
22:50
Speaker 1: are out there. People that are keen to this and
22:53
Speaker 1: are where of whether they're going on, you can see
22:54
Speaker 1: where these items are either snapped off or pressed down
22:58
Speaker 1: into that area, and that gives you an idea of
23:01
Speaker 1: activity out there. You know, we think a lot in
23:03
Speaker 1: forensics about blood trails and all that stuff, but you
23:06
Speaker 1: can also get an idea as to what happened out
23:09
Speaker 1: a scene by virtue of wearing individuals oriented relative to
23:12
Speaker 1: their shoes, and of course shoes, they're going to be
23:14
Speaker 1: very very specific in this case. And remember what you
23:18
Speaker 1: said earlier, Jackie. When they went out and they served
23:21
Speaker 1: the search warrant on this fellow's house, what did they get. Well,
23:26
Speaker 1: they went out there and the roommates says they aked
23:29
Speaker 1: all of his clothes out of there. What are they
23:31
Speaker 1: looking for? I think clothes probably involves shoes more than likely,
23:36
Speaker 1: maybe they've taken that all back. If they found footprints
23:39
Speaker 1: out there, they could have cast those. And if they
23:42
Speaker 1: have work boots or athletic shoes or I don't care
23:45
Speaker 1: if it's Sunday, go to meet and shoes. They're going
23:48
Speaker 1: to leave a distinctive print, and they can compare that
23:51
Speaker 1: back at the lab once they've lifted those cast out
23:54
Speaker 1: of the soil, and give them an idea or at
23:57
Speaker 1: least from a circumstantial standpoint that these use are consistent
24:01
Speaker 1: with the prints that we found left behind at the scene.
24:25
Speaker 1: In our world, there is no such thing as a
24:27
Speaker 1: perfect crime. Those do not exist. Some are more difficult
24:31
Speaker 1: to solve, But you know, here's the thing. Perpetrators are
24:35
Speaker 1: always going to leave behind some essence of who they are,
24:39
Speaker 1: or what they have done, or what they've brought into
24:41
Speaker 1: the scene. And I think that this case is no different.
24:44
Speaker 1: It's a bit more difficult to work because it's an
24:47
Speaker 1: outdoor scene. This is not like walking into a house
24:50
Speaker 1: and an apartment somewhere where you're going to have a
24:52
Speaker 1: bloodsoak scene and you might have a lot of fiber
24:55
Speaker 1: evidence out there that you could find, but still significant
24:58
Speaker 1: evidence can be found out here. And I've got an
25:01
Speaker 1: idea about a few of these things, and I think
25:03
Speaker 1: that you're going to leave some trace behind. And I
25:05
Speaker 1: got to tell you, I think that there are several
25:08
Speaker 1: items that we have yet to discuss that could lead
25:11
Speaker 1: deeper and deeper into this investigation and point certainly to
25:15
Speaker 1: this perpetrator and maybe potentially to others. Let me see
25:19
Speaker 1: if I can guess what some of those things might be.
25:22
Speaker 1: We've talked about the tire and the possibility of prints.
25:27
Speaker 1: We've talked about possibly finding a nest or an area
25:33
Speaker 1: nearby where the perpetrator may have watched while waiting on
25:36
Speaker 1: his victim. And we've talked about the truck a little bit.
25:40
Speaker 1: What about the possibility of shell casings there on the scene.
25:46
Speaker 1: Depending on what kind of a weapon you're using, the
25:48
Speaker 1: shell casings get ejected. You unless you have lots of
25:51
Speaker 1: time to look, you may not necessarily know where it
25:55
Speaker 1: is ejected to were there shell casings found, Joey, And
26:00
Speaker 1: I'm glad that you made that. Plural casines. That's what
26:02
Speaker 1: the police have said over and over again. And I
26:05
Speaker 1: can tell you a big piece of this that we
26:07
Speaker 1: might can safely speculate on. This is probably going to
26:10
Speaker 1: be a semi automatic weapon because you've got multiple ejected
26:14
Speaker 1: shell casings. Now it's possible that you could have used
26:17
Speaker 1: a revolver and you can eject shells from a revolver
26:22
Speaker 1: with an ejection rod that you kind of you open
26:25
Speaker 1: up the cylinder and you push them out and it
26:26
Speaker 1: drops on the ground. But those are becoming fewer and fewer. Nowadays.
26:30
Speaker 1: Most people are going to be carrying a semi automatic handgun,
26:34
Speaker 1: and so where you have shell casings that are ejected
26:37
Speaker 1: out of the side, people need to be very careful
26:40
Speaker 1: when you start to talk about the relationship between shell
26:43
Speaker 1: casings and say the decedent that is the person that
26:47
Speaker 1: has passed away, the homicide victim. Many people will get
26:51
Speaker 1: an idea that when you see these ejected shell casings
26:55
Speaker 1: it might be an indication of movement of the perpetrator
26:59
Speaker 1: as they're firing the weapon. That is a falsehood because
27:03
Speaker 1: you can have a distribution of shell casings all over
27:06
Speaker 1: the place, particularly on a very solid, hard surface. Remember
27:09
Speaker 1: this is on an asphalted surface in a road. So
27:13
Speaker 1: when those spent metal casings eject out of that ejection
27:17
Speaker 1: port and they hit the ground, it's anybody's guess as
27:20
Speaker 1: to where they're going to wind up, and they'll bounce
27:23
Speaker 1: all over the place. Even in an individual that stays static,
27:26
Speaker 1: that means stands still while they're firing. These spent casings
27:31
Speaker 1: can bounce all over the place. You can't even there's
27:34
Speaker 1: no way to even do the mathematical computation that would
27:38
Speaker 1: be involved to try to make a guess at to
27:41
Speaker 1: where one casing will land as opposed to another. So
27:46
Speaker 1: that shouldn't be an indication of movement of the individual,
27:48
Speaker 1: whether they were static or moving around. It's just going
27:52
Speaker 1: to give you an idea of an approximation as to
27:54
Speaker 1: where the perpetrator was. It sounds as though, based upon
27:58
Speaker 1: what the police have said, is that it was perpetrated
28:03
Speaker 1: very close to the open car door that Jared had
28:06
Speaker 1: had stepped out of. Remember he put his flashers on,
28:09
Speaker 1: opened the door, and stepped out, and then boom boom.
28:13
Speaker 1: So you've got the shell casings that are lying about
28:17
Speaker 1: semi automatic we believe, and it will essentially go back
28:21
Speaker 1: to a particular weapon. Now here's what the police are
28:26
Speaker 1: looking for. Hopefully they can find this weapon because if
28:29
Speaker 1: they do and deepen it upon the track of the
28:34
Speaker 1: wounds and the rounds that passed into Jared, if they
28:38
Speaker 1: recovered any of those rounds whatsoever, they can tie that
28:42
Speaker 1: back to the barrel. We've talked a lot about ballistics
28:44
Speaker 1: on body backs, so that's certainly something that would help
28:48
Speaker 1: us identify the weapon and potentially put it into the
28:51
Speaker 1: hand of the person that possessed it at the time
28:53
Speaker 1: of this crime. Also, you would begin to look at
28:56
Speaker 1: these aforementioned casings that have been spent because they have
29:00
Speaker 1: marks on them too. They have extraction marks, to have
29:04
Speaker 1: ejector marks. It's soft metal. So as the process is
29:08
Speaker 1: happening where that around is being that spent cation is
29:11
Speaker 1: being pulled out of the weapon by this force as
29:15
Speaker 1: it's flying through the air and just before it's literally
29:18
Speaker 1: grabbed within the weapon slid back, and those markings are
29:23
Speaker 1: distinctive to that weapon. That's important because not only if
29:28
Speaker 1: you get the weapon, you can tie the projectile ballistically
29:31
Speaker 1: back to the weapon, but you can look at the
29:33
Speaker 1: markings on the casing and tie that back to the
29:36
Speaker 1: same weapon. You're not just looking at what's coming out
29:39
Speaker 1: of the barrel, You're also looking at what's coming out
29:42
Speaker 1: of the ejection port as well, because those are very
29:45
Speaker 1: distinctive scientifically. Speaking of scientifically, how about something that we
29:50
Speaker 1: kind of take for granted every day and people kind
29:54
Speaker 1: of dismiss and don't realize how scientific it really is.
29:58
Speaker 1: And that is the life holihood of video from every angle.
30:04
Speaker 1: I mean, you're going to have houses that are going
30:06
Speaker 1: to have doorbell cameras. You're going to have businesses usually
30:10
Speaker 1: or going to have some kind of surveillance cameras. So
30:13
Speaker 1: we know that it was reported that there was a
30:16
Speaker 1: blue truck. How do you think that they pinpointed or
30:20
Speaker 1: narrowed down on the truck that it belonged to tennin
30:25
Speaker 1: I got one better for you than just simply seeing
30:29
Speaker 1: the truck on video. The night of Remember how we
30:33
Speaker 1: talked about going out and reconning an area like the
30:38
Speaker 1: military wood. What if they were able to put that
30:42
Speaker 1: truck out there during the daytime hours where it's passing
30:45
Speaker 1: through this area up and down the road searching for
30:48
Speaker 1: that choke point as we mentioned, what if they got
30:52
Speaker 1: that truck captured on video by rain camp. And look,
30:55
Speaker 1: I don't know how much folks know about this area,
30:57
Speaker 1: but this is a high dollar where this took place. Now.
31:02
Speaker 1: I know that we made it sound very vacant, and
31:04
Speaker 1: it is in this particular area, but up and down
31:07
Speaker 1: this road you've got homes that are far nicer than
31:11
Speaker 1: anything that I live in very very high end real estate.
31:14
Speaker 1: And what do high end real estate owners tend to
31:17
Speaker 1: have on their homes, Well, they like security. I don't
31:21
Speaker 1: think the police are just simply reliant upon what happened
31:25
Speaker 1: that night. They're reliant upon what happened the days leading
31:30
Speaker 1: up to this event. They may have gone to all
31:33
Speaker 1: of these homes up and down this road and said, well, sir, ma'am,
31:37
Speaker 1: can we pull your video footage here? Were looking in
31:41
Speaker 1: this case, we want to look back several days. Maybe
31:44
Speaker 1: they had an eyewitness, Maybe they saw a strange truck
31:46
Speaker 1: that wasn't part of that neighborhood, and somebody came to
31:49
Speaker 1: the police and said, you know what, there's been a
31:50
Speaker 1: truck that's been driving back and forth through here for
31:54
Speaker 1: the past week. We don't know who the guy is,
31:56
Speaker 1: but you know, I heard about the description. I didn't
31:58
Speaker 1: see it that night, but man truck just like that's
32:01
Speaker 1: been driving up and down the road preceding the event.
32:04
Speaker 1: So that could be part and parcel of what the
32:07
Speaker 1: police are looking for as well, or have identified in
32:10
Speaker 1: this particular case, certainly enough to create a search warrant
32:13
Speaker 1: perhaps and then finally an arrest warrant in this particular case.
32:17
Speaker 1: I think all the things that you've told us about
32:20
Speaker 1: today Joe really puts together and solidifies for people how
32:27
Speaker 1: long it truly can take to solve a murder case.
32:31
Speaker 1: I mean, we're looking at over a year now before
32:35
Speaker 1: an arrest was made in this case, Yes we are.
32:37
Speaker 1: And God blessed Cherry's wife to go through what she's
32:41
Speaker 1: gone through with these children day in and day out,
32:44
Speaker 1: wondering all of his family that have been so united
32:47
Speaker 1: in this case. And finally they get this one ray
32:49
Speaker 1: of hope here. Because it has been an uphill struggle
32:53
Speaker 1: and there's been a lot of questions that have been asked,
32:56
Speaker 1: and that doesn't go to the police don't know what
32:59
Speaker 1: they're doing. I take exception anytime somebody who says that
33:02
Speaker 1: the police are being careful, particularly you know, because the
33:05
Speaker 1: word conspiracy has come up in this case. That adds
33:08
Speaker 1: a whole nother level of complexity to a case. That
33:12
Speaker 1: means that you just don't have one individual that you're
33:15
Speaker 1: looking at, You're looking at multiple individuals. So it increases
33:19
Speaker 1: it by a specific factor and it makes it very layered.
33:24
Speaker 1: You know, we haven't even even touched on certainly. I
33:26
Speaker 1: think maybe many of us kind of take it for granted.
33:29
Speaker 1: We haven't touched on the fact that the perpetrator may
33:33
Speaker 1: have been carrying cell phone with him. What if there
33:36
Speaker 1: were text messages that were going back and forth. What
33:38
Speaker 1: if he's pinging off the towers. For all I know,
33:40
Speaker 1: this individual left their phone at home, But what if,
33:43
Speaker 1: just what if they were lying in wait out there
33:46
Speaker 1: as Jared is traveling home to go back home to
33:50
Speaker 1: his precious family with that precious angel in the backseat,
33:54
Speaker 1: and he's sitting out there in those bushes waiting for
33:57
Speaker 1: him to come back, and he's got his phone in
33:58
Speaker 1: his pocket, and all the while, all the while, they're
34:01
Speaker 1: able to tide back to a specific perpetrator, and that
34:05
Speaker 1: thing is pinging off of those towers, giving them a
34:07
Speaker 1: specific identification and location as to where he was the
34:11
Speaker 1: entire time. You brought up to conspiracy again, Joe, So
34:14
Speaker 1: let me say it one more time. We are not
34:17
Speaker 1: jumping to conclusions. No one has been named as a
34:21
Speaker 1: co conspirator in this case. No one has been arrested
34:25
Speaker 1: as a co conspirator in this case. So far has
34:28
Speaker 1: been Henry Tennan. I'm Joseph Scott Morgan and this is
34:37
Speaker 1: body backs